Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Wikipedia-l] Please HELP save Wikipedia history ! (urgent)

2010-02-19 Thread K. Peachey
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 3:54 PM, The Cunctator  wrote:
> Yes. This is idiotic. The logo contest followed the same rules as all other
> submissions to Wikipedia -- they were submitted under the GFDL.
Yes, but not everyone knows that and any tom, dick or harry that
randomly finds them doesn't know that, that is why they should be
clearly labelled with their source(/s), licenses(/s) and any other
appropriate information on their [the images] description pages.
Someone could even make a template saying that they are part of a
series from whatever contest that they are from.

-Peachey

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Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Wikipedia-l] Please HELP save Wikipedia history ! (urgent)

2010-02-19 Thread Aphaia
Till some moment, all updates were assumed under GFDL ... or it was
said "you agree to release your upload under GFDL with your pushing
this button" or something alike. No tagged old images could be legacy
from that era. For more details, see related mediawiki files' past
revisions.

Cheers,

On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Chad  wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 4:47 PM, David Gerard  wrote:
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: Florence Devouard 
>> Date: 19 February 2010 21:19
>> Subject: [Wikipedia-l] Please HELP save Wikipedia history ! (urgent)
>> To: wikipedi...@lists.wikimedia.org
>>
>>
>> An editor on META is having the crazy idea of tagging all historical
>> logo propositions made during the Wikipedia logo contest back in 2003
>> with a template
>>
>> "This image has no license information attached to it. This means that
>> it has an unknown copyright status. Unless the copyright status is
>> provided and a license is given, the image will be deleted one week
>> after this template was added."
>>
>>        
>> Example:http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:EloquenceSunflowerBlue-Small.png
>>
>>
>>
>> Please help save Wikipedia history and weight in to avoid all those
>> images being deleted. We are reaching the limits of non sense.
>>
>>
>> Ant
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> I know the actual logos are trademarked, but the proposals aren't. If
> these are creations by Wikimedians, then hopefully they are under a
> free license. They should be uploaded to Commons and organized, if
> so!
>
> -Chad
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Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Wikipedia-l] Please HELP save Wikipedia history ! (urgent)

2010-02-19 Thread The Cunctator
Yes. This is idiotic. The logo contest followed the same rules as all other
submissions to Wikipedia -- they were submitted under the GFDL.

On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 8:52 PM, geni  wrote:

> On 20 February 2010 00:23, Chad  wrote:
> > I know the actual logos are trademarked, but the proposals aren't. If
> > these are creations by Wikimedians, then hopefully they are under a
> > free license. They should be uploaded to Commons and organized, if
> > so!
> >
> > -Chad
>
> For the most part no. They were deliberately ot released so the the
> copyright could be transferred to the foundation. Some have since been
> released when they found other uses
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Example.jpg for example) but most
> have not been.
>
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Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Wikipedia-l] Please HELP save Wikipedia history ! (urgent)

2010-02-19 Thread geni
On 20 February 2010 00:23, Chad  wrote:
> I know the actual logos are trademarked, but the proposals aren't. If
> these are creations by Wikimedians, then hopefully they are under a
> free license. They should be uploaded to Commons and organized, if
> so!
>
> -Chad

For the most part no. They were deliberately ot released so the the
copyright could be transferred to the foundation. Some have since been
released when they found other uses
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Example.jpg for example) but most
have not been.



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[Foundation-l] Zane hardly glanced at him.

2010-02-19 Thread foundation-l-owner
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Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Wikipedia-l] Please HELP save Wikipedia history ! (urgent)

2010-02-19 Thread Chad
On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 4:47 PM, David Gerard  wrote:
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Florence Devouard 
> Date: 19 February 2010 21:19
> Subject: [Wikipedia-l] Please HELP save Wikipedia history ! (urgent)
> To: wikipedi...@lists.wikimedia.org
>
>
> An editor on META is having the crazy idea of tagging all historical
> logo propositions made during the Wikipedia logo contest back in 2003
> with a template
>
> "This image has no license information attached to it. This means that
> it has an unknown copyright status. Unless the copyright status is
> provided and a license is given, the image will be deleted one week
> after this template was added."
>
>        
> Example:http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:EloquenceSunflowerBlue-Small.png
>
>
>
> Please help save Wikipedia history and weight in to avoid all those
> images being deleted. We are reaching the limits of non sense.
>
>
> Ant
>
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I know the actual logos are trademarked, but the proposals aren't. If
these are creations by Wikimedians, then hopefully they are under a
free license. They should be uploaded to Commons and organized, if
so!

-Chad

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Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Wikipedia-l] Please HELP save Wikipedia history ! (urgent)

2010-02-19 Thread Tomasz Ganicz
2010/2/19 David Gerard :
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Florence Devouard 
> Date: 19 February 2010 21:19
> Subject: [Wikipedia-l] Please HELP save Wikipedia history ! (urgent)
> To: wikipedi...@lists.wikimedia.org
>
>
> An editor on META is having the crazy idea of tagging all historical
> logo propositions made during the Wikipedia logo contest back in 2003
> with a template
>
> "This image has no license information attached to it. This means that
> it has an unknown copyright status. Unless the copyright status is
> provided and a license is given, the image will be deleted one week
> after this template was added."
>
>        
> Example:http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:EloquenceSunflowerBlue-Small.png
>
>
>
> Please help save Wikipedia history and weight in to avoid all those
> images being deleted. We are reaching the limits of non sense.
>

Yes...Copyright paranoia in action... You can always copy those files
as long as they exists and simply create your private website with all
of them. I wonder who is going to sue you for copyvio in such the
case. I guess nobody...

Anyway this is indeed big question if we should delete files based on
the "0 tolerance for potential copyvio, no matter if it does make any
practical sense or was examine but someone with real copyright
knowledge" rule or rather based on "is there any probability that
someone will sue us for copyvio". Wikimedia Commons (and many other
Wikimedia projects) currently follow the "0 tolerance" approach. The
exeption is still Wikipedia-en and several other projects which still
allow fair-use.

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Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedic OCD

2010-02-19 Thread George Herbert
On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Fred Bauder  wrote:
> Some books are very productive in that way, if you have time to add each
> interesting fact to the encyclopedia. TV is a bit awkward to reference,
> at least routinely.
>
> Fred
>
>
>> Does anyone else suffer from this problem, whereby you listen to or
>> watch any kind of programme and think "I could add that to Wikipedia!"
>>
>> For me, there's so many facts I encounter every day that having that
>> thought becomes overwhelming.
>>
>> I just wonder if I'm alone.

Last time I had a serious attack of that, with a Book, I spent a day
doing diagrams and two days learning the math markup language stuff
well enough to transcribe the formulas in accurately.

It is somewhat self-correcting ;-P


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Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedic OCD

2010-02-19 Thread Chad
On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Bod Notbod  wrote:
> Does anyone else suffer from this problem, whereby you listen to or
> watch any kind of programme and think "I could add that to Wikipedia!"
>
> For me, there's so many facts I encounter every day that having that
> thought becomes overwhelming.
>
> I just wonder if I'm alone.
>
> User:Bodnotbod
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I used to, but they have a cure for that now.

-Chad

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[Foundation-l] Fwd: [Wikipedia-l] Please HELP save Wikipedia history ! (urgent)

2010-02-19 Thread David Gerard
-- Forwarded message --
From: Florence Devouard 
Date: 19 February 2010 21:19
Subject: [Wikipedia-l] Please HELP save Wikipedia history ! (urgent)
To: wikipedi...@lists.wikimedia.org


An editor on META is having the crazy idea of tagging all historical
logo propositions made during the Wikipedia logo contest back in 2003
with a template

"This image has no license information attached to it. This means that
it has an unknown copyright status. Unless the copyright status is
provided and a license is given, the image will be deleted one week
after this template was added."

       
Example:http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:EloquenceSunflowerBlue-Small.png



Please help save Wikipedia history and weight in to avoid all those
images being deleted. We are reaching the limits of non sense.


Ant



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Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedic OCD

2010-02-19 Thread Fred Bauder
Some books are very productive in that way, if you have time to add each
interesting fact to the encyclopedia. TV is a bit awkward to reference,
at least routinely.

Fred


> Does anyone else suffer from this problem, whereby you listen to or
> watch any kind of programme and think "I could add that to Wikipedia!"
>
> For me, there's so many facts I encounter every day that having that
> thought becomes overwhelming.
>
> I just wonder if I'm alone.
>
> User:Bodnotbod
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Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedic OCD

2010-02-19 Thread Alison M. Wheeler
No, you are not alone ;-P

Sometimes you can look at my editing history and see what I am watching / 
listening to 'live' (eg. documentary on Skippy the Bush Kangaroo very recently!)

Alison


- "Bod Notbod"  wrote:

> Does anyone else suffer from this problem, whereby you listen to or
> watch any kind of programme and think "I could add that to
> Wikipedia!"
> 
> For me, there's so many facts I encounter every day that having that
> thought becomes overwhelming.
> 
> I just wonder if I'm alone.
> 
> User:Bodnotbod
> 
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[Foundation-l] Wikipedic OCD

2010-02-19 Thread Bod Notbod
Does anyone else suffer from this problem, whereby you listen to or
watch any kind of programme and think "I could add that to Wikipedia!"

For me, there's so many facts I encounter every day that having that
thought becomes overwhelming.

I just wonder if I'm alone.

User:Bodnotbod

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