[Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool - Office Hours, 27th January, 19:00 UTC
Hey guys We'll be holding another AFT office hours session at 19:00 tomorrow, in #wikimedia-office; hope to see a lot of you there :). If you can't make it, drop me an email and I'll send you the logs. Thanks! -- Oliver Keyes Community Liaison, Product Development Wikimedia Foundation ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool office hours - Friday 13th, 19:00 UTC, #wikimedia-office
Hey guys and girls As usual, the AFT5 team will be holding an office hours session this week; Friday the 13th, despite the unfortunate associations, at 19:00 UTC in #wikimedia-office. This'll be the first chance for everyone (including me!) to take a look at a working, useable wireframe for the feedback page and to provide feedback (hah) on it. Hope to see you all there :). -- Oliver Keyes Community Liaison, Product Development Wikimedia Foundation ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool office hours - Today, #wikimedia-office, 19:00 UTC
Hey guys! Just a reminder that there will be an office hours session at 19:00 UTC today to discuss the new Article Feedback Tool. This is the last session before the prototype is deployed, so if you have any last-minute requests or issues, or want to find out precisely what is going on, this is probably a good one to come to :). -- Oliver Keyes Community Liason, Product Development Wikimedia Foundation ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool office hours - 15 minutes
Hey guys; the AFT office hours session will be starting at 11:00 (or whenever Geoff finishes) :). Hope to see you all there! -- Oliver Keyes Community Liason, Product Development Wikimedia Foundation ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool office hours - 2nd December, 19:00 UTC
Hey guys! Another AFT session - this one will be in #wikimedia-office on 2 December, at 19:00 UTC. If you're vaguely interested in playing around with prototypes, you should attend - we'll have a lot of cool stuff to poke at (and then complain about when something breaks and it goes all melty). -- Oliver Keyes Community Liason, Product Development Wikimedia Foundation ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool office hours - 2nd December, 19:00 UTC
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 10:46 PM, Oliver Keyes oke...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hey guys! Another AFT session - this one will be in #wikimedia-office on 2 December, at 19:00 UTC. If you're vaguely interested in playing around with prototypes, you should attend - we'll have a lot of cool stuff to poke at (and then complain about when something breaks and it goes all melty). Isn't there Geoff's IRC session on the same day? around the same time as that. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours (Also, link!) Regards Theo ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool office hours - 2nd December, 19:00 UTC
Indeed; an hour beforehand :). We'll be jumping in right as he ends. On 29 November 2011 17:23, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 10:46 PM, Oliver Keyes oke...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hey guys! Another AFT session - this one will be in #wikimedia-office on 2 December, at 19:00 UTC. If you're vaguely interested in playing around with prototypes, you should attend - we'll have a lot of cool stuff to poke at (and then complain about when something breaks and it goes all melty). Isn't there Geoff's IRC session on the same day? around the same time as that. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours (Also, link!) Regards Theo ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- Oliver Keyes Community Liason, Product Development Wikimedia Foundation ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool office hours - 2nd December, 19:00 UTC
would it be possible to have a rating for pictures as well? On Nov 29, 2011 6:17 PM, Oliver Keyes oke...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hey guys! Another AFT session - this one will be in #wikimedia-office on 2 December, at 19:00 UTC. If you're vaguely interested in playing around with prototypes, you should attend - we'll have a lot of cool stuff to poke at (and then complain about when something breaks and it goes all melty). -- Oliver Keyes Community Liason, Product Development Wikimedia Foundation ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool office hours - 2nd December, 19:00 UTC
Well, if you've seen AFT5 (you may not have, so - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_Feedback_Tool/Version_5) we're moving away from rating articles. On 29 November 2011 19:13, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com wrote: would it be possible to have a rating for pictures as well? On Nov 29, 2011 6:17 PM, Oliver Keyes oke...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hey guys! Another AFT session - this one will be in #wikimedia-office on 2 December, at 19:00 UTC. If you're vaguely interested in playing around with prototypes, you should attend - we'll have a lot of cool stuff to poke at (and then complain about when something breaks and it goes all melty). -- Oliver Keyes Community Liason, Product Development Wikimedia Foundation ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- Oliver Keyes Community Liason, Product Development Wikimedia Foundation ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool office hours - 2nd December, 19:00 UTC
that looks really nice, as well the intention behind it! for pictures, or commons in general, a rating model like the one already implements would be more appropriate, what you think? On Nov 29, 2011 8:20 PM, Oliver Keyes oke...@wikimedia.org wrote: Well, if you've seen AFT5 (you may not have, so - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_Feedback_Tool/Version_5) we're moving away from rating articles. On 29 November 2011 19:13, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com wrote: would it be possible to have a rating for pictures as well? On Nov 29, 2011 6:17 PM, Oliver Keyes oke...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hey guys! Another AFT session - this one will be in #wikimedia-office on 2 December, at 19:00 UTC. If you're vaguely interested in playing around with prototypes, you should attend - we'll have a lot of cool stuff to poke at (and then complain about when something breaks and it goes all melty). -- Oliver Keyes Community Liason, Product Development Wikimedia Foundation ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- Oliver Keyes Community Liason, Product Development Wikimedia Foundation ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool office hours - 2nd December, 19:00 UTC
It'd be good! I'm not sure what the usefulness would be, though. So, the two aims behind the AFT: - To prompt greater feedback from readers on the quality of content; - To try (through the calls to action, which have actually been pretty successful) to prompt readers to edit. I'm not sure how applicable these would be to Commons. I mean, how many readers per se does the project get? The interface doesn't really lend itself to browsing. It'd also be awkward trying to work out what they could actually do, or what the feedback would be useful for; with traditional wikis, if people go this article sucks we can fix it. If people go this image sucks we can't necessarily take a new one, or tweak the old one to make it better. Still, it's an interesting idea. I do like the possibility of maybe having a rating box that prompts readers do you have an image of this? If so, why not upload it? or whatever if they provide a sucky rating for a photo. I'll drop the devs a note and see what their plans are in this field :). On 29 November 2011 19:36, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com wrote: that looks really nice, as well the intention behind it! for pictures, or commons in general, a rating model like the one already implements would be more appropriate, what you think? On Nov 29, 2011 8:20 PM, Oliver Keyes oke...@wikimedia.org wrote: Well, if you've seen AFT5 (you may not have, so - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_Feedback_Tool/Version_5) we're moving away from rating articles. On 29 November 2011 19:13, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com wrote: would it be possible to have a rating for pictures as well? On Nov 29, 2011 6:17 PM, Oliver Keyes oke...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hey guys! Another AFT session - this one will be in #wikimedia-office on 2 December, at 19:00 UTC. If you're vaguely interested in playing around with prototypes, you should attend - we'll have a lot of cool stuff to poke at (and then complain about when something breaks and it goes all melty). -- Oliver Keyes Community Liason, Product Development Wikimedia Foundation ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- Oliver Keyes Community Liason, Product Development Wikimedia Foundation ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- Oliver Keyes Community Liason, Product Development Wikimedia Foundation ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool office hours - 2nd December, 19:00 UTC
the longer I think about it, the more I like the direction it takes. as you allow texts now, would it be thinkable to generalise this in future versions to make it having post-it functionality? this means in three directions: first, can be placed anywhere onto the article even covering things. second, can have/be a tag/category. third, allows different level of visibility, like personal, public, friends. depending on the implementation, they would be able to extend, replace or provide e.g.: page watch, classical note glued onto or over text or images, categories, tags, bookmarks, share the post-its to me, groups or public, editing templates (a la this article needs help), quality categorisation to select contents for offline. On Nov 29, 2011 8:20 PM, Oliver Keyes oke...@wikimedia.org wrote: Well, if you've seen AFT5 (you may not have, so - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_Feedback_Tool/Version_5) we're moving away from rating articles. On 29 November 2011 19:13, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com wrote: would it be possible to have a rating for pictures as well? On Nov 29, 2011 6:17 PM, Oliver Keyes oke...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hey guys! Another AFT session - this one will be in #wikimedia-office on 2 December, at 19:00 UTC. If you're vaguely interested in playing around with prototypes, you should attend - we'll have a lot of cool stuff to poke at (and then complain about when something breaks and it goes all melty). -- Oliver Keyes Community Liason, Product Development Wikimedia Foundation ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- Oliver Keyes Community Liason, Product Development Wikimedia Foundation ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool office hours - 2nd December, 19:00 UTC
one usage could be to support photo competitions as wiki loves monuments, where a jury had to select good photos out of 16 submitted. On Nov 29, 2011 8:51 PM, Oliver Keyes oke...@wikimedia.org wrote: It'd be good! I'm not sure what the usefulness would be, though. So, the two aims behind the AFT: - To prompt greater feedback from readers on the quality of content; - To try (through the calls to action, which have actually been pretty successful) to prompt readers to edit. I'm not sure how applicable these would be to Commons. I mean, how many readers per se does the project get? The interface doesn't really lend itself to browsing. It'd also be awkward trying to work out what they could actually do, or what the feedback would be useful for; with traditional wikis, if people go this article sucks we can fix it. If people go this image sucks we can't necessarily take a new one, or tweak the old one to make it better. Still, it's an interesting idea. I do like the possibility of maybe having a rating box that prompts readers do you have an image of this? If so, why not upload it? or whatever if they provide a sucky rating for a photo. I'll drop the devs a note and see what their plans are in this field :). On 29 November 2011 19:36, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com wrote: that looks really nice, as well the intention behind it! for pictures, or commons in general, a rating model like the one already implements would be more appropriate, what you think? On Nov 29, 2011 8:20 PM, Oliver Keyes oke...@wikimedia.org wrote: Well, if you've seen AFT5 (you may not have, so - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_Feedback_Tool/Version_5 ) we're moving away from rating articles. On 29 November 2011 19:13, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com wrote: would it be possible to have a rating for pictures as well? On Nov 29, 2011 6:17 PM, Oliver Keyes oke...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hey guys! Another AFT session - this one will be in #wikimedia-office on 2 December, at 19:00 UTC. If you're vaguely interested in playing around with prototypes, you should attend - we'll have a lot of cool stuff to poke at (and then complain about when something breaks and it goes all melty). -- Oliver Keyes Community Liason, Product Development Wikimedia Foundation ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- Oliver Keyes Community Liason, Product Development Wikimedia Foundation ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- Oliver Keyes Community Liason, Product Development Wikimedia Foundation ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool office hours - 2nd December, 19:00 UTC
That's certainly an idea. I don't think post-its are on the table right now - that's probably a bit outside the project's scope. On 29 November 2011 20:06, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com wrote: one usage could be to support photo competitions as wiki loves monuments, where a jury had to select good photos out of 16 submitted. On Nov 29, 2011 8:51 PM, Oliver Keyes oke...@wikimedia.org wrote: It'd be good! I'm not sure what the usefulness would be, though. So, the two aims behind the AFT: - To prompt greater feedback from readers on the quality of content; - To try (through the calls to action, which have actually been pretty successful) to prompt readers to edit. I'm not sure how applicable these would be to Commons. I mean, how many readers per se does the project get? The interface doesn't really lend itself to browsing. It'd also be awkward trying to work out what they could actually do, or what the feedback would be useful for; with traditional wikis, if people go this article sucks we can fix it. If people go this image sucks we can't necessarily take a new one, or tweak the old one to make it better. Still, it's an interesting idea. I do like the possibility of maybe having a rating box that prompts readers do you have an image of this? If so, why not upload it? or whatever if they provide a sucky rating for a photo. I'll drop the devs a note and see what their plans are in this field :). On 29 November 2011 19:36, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com wrote: that looks really nice, as well the intention behind it! for pictures, or commons in general, a rating model like the one already implements would be more appropriate, what you think? On Nov 29, 2011 8:20 PM, Oliver Keyes oke...@wikimedia.org wrote: Well, if you've seen AFT5 (you may not have, so - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_Feedback_Tool/Version_5 ) we're moving away from rating articles. On 29 November 2011 19:13, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com wrote: would it be possible to have a rating for pictures as well? On Nov 29, 2011 6:17 PM, Oliver Keyes oke...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hey guys! Another AFT session - this one will be in #wikimedia-office on 2 December, at 19:00 UTC. If you're vaguely interested in playing around with prototypes, you should attend - we'll have a lot of cool stuff to poke at (and then complain about when something breaks and it goes all melty). -- Oliver Keyes Community Liason, Product Development Wikimedia Foundation ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- Oliver Keyes Community Liason, Product Development Wikimedia Foundation ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- Oliver Keyes Community Liason, Product Development Wikimedia Foundation ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- Oliver Keyes Community Liason, Product Development Wikimedia Foundation ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool office hours - 19:00 UTC, Thursday 10 November
Hey guys; another office hours session with Howie, Fabrice and Dario covering the Article Feedback Tool. (and yes, I've got it right this time - I used http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=19min=00sec=0day=10month=11year=2011as recommended :P) This session will be at 19:00 UTC on Thursday, in the usual location - #wikimedia-office. I hope to see you all there :). We'll be holding a later session next week, hopefully, timed so that East Coast editors can attend, and I'll also be setting one up for Asian/Australasian editors on a Friday evening UTC. Hope to see you lot soon! -- Oliver Keyes Community Liason, Product Development Wikimedia Foundation ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool office hours
Hey guys So, Office Hours for the AFT is now over; thanks to all who attended. The logs can be found at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours/Office_hours_2011-10-27 for those who missed it - we're talking about trying to hold a second session at a more North America-friendly time. Is that something that interests anyone? Meanwhile, the plans for the new AFT version can be found at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:AFT5 - if you have any opinions, just drop a note on the talkpage. All comments and perspectives are welcome :). Thanks Oliver Keyes Community Liason, Product Development Wikimedia Foundation ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
