Re: [Foundation-l] I'm here to request a new Wikimedia project

2010-02-28 Thread Magnus Manske
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Tyler programmer...@comcast.net wrote:
 Dear folks at Wikimedia,
 Thank you for existing! You are responsible for the encyclopedia I use every 
 time I need an encyclopedia! So, you publish an encyclopedia (Wikipedia), a 
 dictionary (Wiktionary), an archive of news articles (Wikinews), online 
 classes (Wikiversity), online textbooks (Wikibooks), online non-educational 
 books (Wikisource), lists of quotes by people or shows or whatever 
 (Wikiquote), an encyclopedia of living things (Wiki Species), a meta-wiki 
 that no one knows the reason for (Meta), a place where all files on the wikis 
 are placed (The Commons), and a site I don't know why the deuce it exists 
 (The Wikimedia incubator).  I was just wondering, how would you like to start 
 an almanac, guys? That would be neat, a wiki almanac.


http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinac

was submitted 2005

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[Foundation-l] I'm here to request a new Wikimedia project

2010-02-27 Thread Tyler
Dear folks at Wikimedia,
Thank you for existing! You are responsible for the encyclopedia I use every 
time I need an encyclopedia! So, you publish an encyclopedia (Wikipedia), a 
dictionary (Wiktionary), an archive of news articles (Wikinews), online classes 
(Wikiversity), online textbooks (Wikibooks), online non-educational books 
(Wikisource), lists of quotes by people or shows or whatever (Wikiquote), an 
encyclopedia of living things (Wiki Species), a meta-wiki that no one knows the 
reason for (Meta), a place where all files on the wikis are placed (The 
Commons), and a site I don't know why the deuce it exists (The Wikimedia 
incubator).  I was just wondering, how would you like to start an almanac, 
guys? That would be neat, a wiki almanac.

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Re: [Foundation-l] I'm here to request a new Wikimedia project

2010-02-27 Thread Casey Brown
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Tyler programmer...@comcast.net wrote:
  I was just wondering, how would you like to start an almanac, guys? That 
 would be neat, a wiki almanac.


http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_new_projects :-)

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Re: [Foundation-l] I'm here to request a new Wikimedia project

2010-02-27 Thread David Goodman
WP contains many of  the essential elements  of an almanac already, and
could very easily cover all the rest-- it doesn't take a new project, just a
relaxation of some of the self-imposed strictures.  Relaxing, without
eliminating , NOT NEWS ,  NOT DIRECTORY, and   NOT INDISCRIMINATE . there's
only one point that would need actual removal:  NOT INDISCRIMINATE point 3,
Excessive listing of statistics.

The basic change could be accomplished by doing just that one
deletion--there is not need for another project, or even another space for
data.

David Goodman, Ph.D, M.L.S.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DGG


On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Casey Brown li...@caseybrown.org wrote:

 On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Tyler programmer...@comcast.net wrote:
   I was just wondering, how would you like to start an almanac, guys? That
 would be neat, a wiki almanac.
 

 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_new_projects :-)

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Re: [Foundation-l] I'm here to request a new Wikimedia project

2010-02-27 Thread Pharos
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Casey Brown li...@caseybrown.org wrote:
 On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Tyler programmer...@comcast.net wrote:
  I was just wondering, how would you like to start an almanac, guys? That 
 would be neat, a wiki almanac.


 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_new_projects :-)

Our friends at the allied project OpenStreetMap (The Free Wiki World
Map) have gone a long way in this direction, and you probably want to
check their project out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenStreetMap
http://www.openstreetmap.org/

Here's a great recent feature from the BBC about 'The volunteer
mappers who helped Haiti':

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/8517057.stm

Thanks,
Pharos

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Re: [Foundation-l] I'm here to request a new Wikimedia project

2010-02-27 Thread Bod Notbod
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Pharos pharosofalexand...@gmail.com wrote:

  I was just wondering, how would you like to start an almanac, guys? That 
 would be neat, a wiki

 Our friends at the allied project OpenStreetMap (The Free Wiki World
 Map) have gone a long way in this direction, and you probably want to
 check their project out.

You've baffled me there. What's the overlap between a map and an almanac?

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Re: [Foundation-l] I'm here to request a new Wikimedia project

2010-02-27 Thread Pharos
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Bod Notbod bodnot...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Pharos pharosofalexand...@gmail.com wrote:

  I was just wondering, how would you like to start an almanac, guys? That 
 would be neat, a wiki

 Our friends at the allied project OpenStreetMap (The Free Wiki World
 Map) have gone a long way in this direction, and you probably want to
 check their project out.

 You've baffled me there. What's the overlap between a map and an almanac?

If one has just gotten up after oversleeping on a snowed-in Saturday
morning, the distinction between atlas and almanac tends to get
blurred :)

Still, OpenStreetMap is a fantastic project, I wonder if they would
like to join the Wikimedia family one day.

Thanks,
Pharos

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Re: [Foundation-l] I'm here to request a new Wikimedia project

2010-02-27 Thread Alex
I wonder which would be harder, trying to start the first new project in
years, or trying to get the English Wikipedia to make a significant
policy change?

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On 2/27/2010 12:40 PM, David Goodman wrote:
 WP contains many of  the essential elements  of an almanac already, and
 could very easily cover all the rest-- it doesn't take a new project, just a
 relaxation of some of the self-imposed strictures.  Relaxing, without
 eliminating , NOT NEWS ,  NOT DIRECTORY, and   NOT INDISCRIMINATE . there's
 only one point that would need actual removal:  NOT INDISCRIMINATE point 3,
 Excessive listing of statistics.
 
 The basic change could be accomplished by doing just that one
 deletion--there is not need for another project, or even another space for
 data.
 
 David Goodman, Ph.D, M.L.S.
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DGG
 
 
 On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Casey Brown li...@caseybrown.org wrote:
 
 On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Tyler programmer...@comcast.net wrote:
  I was just wondering, how would you like to start an almanac, guys? That
 would be neat, a wiki almanac.


 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_new_projects :-)

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Re: [Foundation-l] I'm here to request a new Wikimedia project

2010-02-27 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi,
The OSM localisation at translatewiki.net started today .. When the NGO's go
home there will be a living project when the people can use it themselves :)
Thanks,
 GerardM

PS what is the status of the integration of OSM and Wikimedia 

On 27 February 2010 18:42, Pharos pharosofalexand...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Casey Brown li...@caseybrown.org
 wrote:
  On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Tyler programmer...@comcast.net
 wrote:
   I was just wondering, how would you like to start an almanac, guys?
 That would be neat, a wiki almanac.
 
 
  http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_new_projects :-)

 Our friends at the allied project OpenStreetMap (The Free Wiki World
 Map) have gone a long way in this direction, and you probably want to
 check their project out.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenStreetMap
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/

 Here's a great recent feature from the BBC about 'The volunteer
 mappers who helped Haiti':

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/8517057.stm

 Thanks,
 Pharos

  --
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  Cbrown1023
 
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Re: [Foundation-l] I'm here to request a new Wikimedia project

2010-02-27 Thread phoebe ayers
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 9:40 AM, David Goodman dgoodma...@gmail.com wrote:
 WP contains many of  the essential elements  of an almanac already, and
 could very easily cover all the rest-- it doesn't take a new project, just a


For Pharos, there is also the Atlas project on Commons already -- one
of my favorite projects that not many people seem to know about.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Atlas

For an almanac, I wonder if we could carve out space within Wikipedia
in the same way -- the almanac portal? A lot of the relevant data is
already present.

For new projects in general... heh, we should start a pool for which
is more likely, policy changes or new projects. Inertia Sweepstakes!

-- phoebe, who is not snowed in but also overslept :)

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