Re: Minutes of the Board Meeting of May, 9th, 2016
Many thanks for your response, but what about site: http://worldofgnome.org/ This is the site it used be post news to GNOME and the way it is known as World of GNOME, while using no reference in its logo, it is in its source name and web page. Now it is posting just as WOGUE on G+, but is known as World of GNOME. El may. 16, 2016 8:43 AM, "Andrea Veri" escribió: > Hey Daniel, > > after a quick look the person in question does not seem to use any > GNOME-related and protected by law logo or trademark on his Google+ > page. The posts he makes look to me like personal opinions about GNOME > and the technologies around it. One should be either free to follow > him or not but even the Google+ page name mentions "Wogue" as its > title with a custom logo which doesn't seem to infringe any of the > trademarks registered by the GNOME Foundation. > > If you find out any trademark infringement on the resources you > pointed out please let the Board know and it will be investigated. > > 2016-05-16 14:48 GMT+02:00 Daniel Espinosa : > > Could you include a point to discuss how to avoid any organization or > > individual, could use GNOME trademark to promote against GNOME? > > > > Is the case of World of GNOME (WOGUE on G+). It recently has pushed > blaming, > > unsupported complaints (based on real data from projects maintainers). > > > > While I'm not against he can publish his complaints on GNOME, I think he > > can't use GNOME trademark to push negative, or few news to try to support > > its negative ideas about GNOME. > > > > Sure, feedback is good, but while he is not part of GNOME Foundation, > may he > > is unable to use GNOME trademark to blame and no positive actions to > help. > > > > El may. 16, 2016 2:53 AM, "Andrea Veri" escribió: > >> > >> = Minutes for Monday, May 9th 2016, 19:30 UTC = > >> > >> Next meeting date Monday, May 16th, 19:30 UTC > >> > >> Wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/FoundationBoard/Minutes/20160509 > >> > >> == Attending == > >> > >> * Alexandre Franke > >> * Jeff F. T. (chairing) > >> * Ekaterina Gerasimova > >> * Cosimo Cecchi > >> * Allan Day > >> * Rosanna Yuen > >> * Shaun McCance > >> > >> == Regrets == > >> > >> * Andrea Veri > >> > >> == Missing == > >> > >> > >> == Agenda == > >> > >> * Preparing the advisory board meeting > >> * ED Search Update > >> * GUADEC Manchester bid > >> > >> === Ongoing === > >> > >> '''The following section is part of the Agenda and includes items which > >> have seen updates in the last 30 days. Items which have been updated > more > >> than 30 days ago are listed under the "Ongoing but stalled" section.''' > >> > >> * ED Search Update > >> * Unixstickers > >> * Google ad grant > >> * Selling 3rd party merch at confs > >> * Friends of GNOME > >> * GUADEC registration fee vs donation system > >> > >> == Minutes == > >> > >> * Preparing the advisory board meeting > >> * Meeting is scheduled for Monday 16th May at 16:00 UTC > >> * Allan has a presentation draft and asks for Board members to give > some > >> presentations > >>* And also should fill in as backup speakers in case some of the > >> invitees are not able to talk > >>* Need a volunteer for ED search update > >> * Shaun is happy to talk but we need to come up with a narrative > >>* Allan will prepare a draft for slides, and will require input from > >> some Board members to add data, and general proofreading > >>* Screenshots can be taken from the release notes, and we can use > some > >> event photos too > >> > >> * ED Search Update > >> * There was a question about whether we should revise the position/job > >> description, but the Board did not come to a conclusion on this in > previous > >> discussion > >> * ACTION: Rosanna to tell Jonathan to go ahead with the job search > >> > >> * GUADEC Manchester bid > >> * The Board received a bid from Manchester for GUADEC 2017 > >> * There's a document to review > >> * We want to meet with the organizing team(s) at GUADEC this year > >> * When do we want to announce the next location? At GUADEC? > >>* For the schedule proposed by Manchester, this would be possible, > but > >> depends on how many other bids we get > >>* It's not a requirement to announce it at GUADEC > >> * There are no other bids for now > >> * Is there anything obvious missing from the bid? We should > communicate > >> that sooner rather than later > >> * We can review the document on the m-l, collect questions and get > back > >> to them > >> * ACTION: Kat will collect and send comments once we have reviewed the > >> document > >> > >> == Ongoing == > >> > >> '''This section includes items which have seen an update in the last 30 > >> days. Format is "-MM-DD, action|discussion|resume" for this and > >> subsequent minutes sections''' > >> > >> * ED search update > >> * 2015-12-01, No news received in recent weeks, mostly because of > >> holidays > >> * 2015-12-08, 3 candidates are going to have a cou
Re: Minutes of the Board Meeting of May, 9th, 2016
That's not quite precise, his handles, domain name and twitter account include GNOME in them as well as the descriptions: https://plus.google.com/+WorldofGnomeOrg http://worldofgnome.org/ https://twitter.com/worldofgnome Having said that, I'm not sure trying to shut things down with via trademark is the appropriate response and would prolly have a Streisand effect. At the same time, many of us have raised this concern with Alex and it doesn't look like he fully acknowledges that he is unfairly piggybacking on the GNOME trademark to attract attention towards his site and videos. I think that sponsoring Alex for a trip to GUADEC to actually understand the people and get involved in the community process is probably a reaction with more chances of positive outcomes than attempting to shut down a site with 8K followers. 2016-05-16 14:43 GMT+01:00 Andrea Veri : > Hey Daniel, > > after a quick look the person in question does not seem to use any > GNOME-related and protected by law logo or trademark on his Google+ > page. The posts he makes look to me like personal opinions about GNOME > and the technologies around it. One should be either free to follow > him or not but even the Google+ page name mentions "Wogue" as its > title with a custom logo which doesn't seem to infringe any of the > trademarks registered by the GNOME Foundation. > > If you find out any trademark infringement on the resources you > pointed out please let the Board know and it will be investigated. > > 2016-05-16 14:48 GMT+02:00 Daniel Espinosa : > > Could you include a point to discuss how to avoid any organization or > > individual, could use GNOME trademark to promote against GNOME? > > > > Is the case of World of GNOME (WOGUE on G+). It recently has pushed > blaming, > > unsupported complaints (based on real data from projects maintainers). > > > > While I'm not against he can publish his complaints on GNOME, I think he > > can't use GNOME trademark to push negative, or few news to try to support > > its negative ideas about GNOME. > > > > Sure, feedback is good, but while he is not part of GNOME Foundation, > may he > > is unable to use GNOME trademark to blame and no positive actions to > help. > > > > El may. 16, 2016 2:53 AM, "Andrea Veri" escribió: > >> > >> = Minutes for Monday, May 9th 2016, 19:30 UTC = > >> > >> Next meeting date Monday, May 16th, 19:30 UTC > >> > >> Wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/FoundationBoard/Minutes/20160509 > >> > >> == Attending == > >> > >> * Alexandre Franke > >> * Jeff F. T. (chairing) > >> * Ekaterina Gerasimova > >> * Cosimo Cecchi > >> * Allan Day > >> * Rosanna Yuen > >> * Shaun McCance > >> > >> == Regrets == > >> > >> * Andrea Veri > >> > >> == Missing == > >> > >> > >> == Agenda == > >> > >> * Preparing the advisory board meeting > >> * ED Search Update > >> * GUADEC Manchester bid > >> > >> === Ongoing === > >> > >> '''The following section is part of the Agenda and includes items which > >> have seen updates in the last 30 days. Items which have been updated > more > >> than 30 days ago are listed under the "Ongoing but stalled" section.''' > >> > >> * ED Search Update > >> * Unixstickers > >> * Google ad grant > >> * Selling 3rd party merch at confs > >> * Friends of GNOME > >> * GUADEC registration fee vs donation system > >> > >> == Minutes == > >> > >> * Preparing the advisory board meeting > >> * Meeting is scheduled for Monday 16th May at 16:00 UTC > >> * Allan has a presentation draft and asks for Board members to give > some > >> presentations > >>* And also should fill in as backup speakers in case some of the > >> invitees are not able to talk > >>* Need a volunteer for ED search update > >> * Shaun is happy to talk but we need to come up with a narrative > >>* Allan will prepare a draft for slides, and will require input from > >> some Board members to add data, and general proofreading > >>* Screenshots can be taken from the release notes, and we can use > some > >> event photos too > >> > >> * ED Search Update > >> * There was a question about whether we should revise the position/job > >> description, but the Board did not come to a conclusion on this in > previous > >> discussion > >> * ACTION: Rosanna to tell Jonathan to go ahead with the job search > >> > >> * GUADEC Manchester bid > >> * The Board received a bid from Manchester for GUADEC 2017 > >> * There's a document to review > >> * We want to meet with the organizing team(s) at GUADEC this year > >> * When do we want to announce the next location? At GUADEC? > >>* For the schedule proposed by Manchester, this would be possible, > but > >> depends on how many other bids we get > >>* It's not a requirement to announce it at GUADEC > >> * There are no other bids for now > >> * Is there anything obvious missing from the bid? We should > communicate > >> that sooner rather than later > >> * We can review the document on the m-l, collect questions and
Re: Minutes of the Board Meeting of May, 9th, 2016
Your right Alberto. Is very important to check out how to invite him to help not just blame. I'd made when possible, but no pro-active actions back from him. And yes, any action should be on get better understand about GNOME's philosophy on community and user feedback. May offer alternative sites, where GNOME Board and maintainers, can post or discuss complaints and as a source of information to clarify some points or just to help any to highlight issues on actions taken or to allow any one to support any discussion against blames, specially if they're unsupported. El may. 16, 2016 8:54 AM, "Alberto Ruiz" escribió: > That's not quite precise, his handles, domain name and twitter account > include GNOME in them as well as the descriptions: > > https://plus.google.com/+WorldofGnomeOrg > http://worldofgnome.org/ > https://twitter.com/worldofgnome > > Having said that, I'm not sure trying to shut things down with via > trademark is the appropriate response and would prolly have a Streisand > effect. At the same time, many of us have raised this concern with Alex and > it doesn't look like he fully acknowledges that he is unfairly piggybacking > on the GNOME trademark to attract attention towards his site and videos. > > I think that sponsoring Alex for a trip to GUADEC to actually understand > the people and get involved in the community process is probably a reaction > with more chances of positive outcomes than attempting to shut down a site > with 8K followers. > > > 2016-05-16 14:43 GMT+01:00 Andrea Veri : > >> Hey Daniel, >> >> after a quick look the person in question does not seem to use any >> GNOME-related and protected by law logo or trademark on his Google+ >> page. The posts he makes look to me like personal opinions about GNOME >> and the technologies around it. One should be either free to follow >> him or not but even the Google+ page name mentions "Wogue" as its >> title with a custom logo which doesn't seem to infringe any of the >> trademarks registered by the GNOME Foundation. >> >> If you find out any trademark infringement on the resources you >> pointed out please let the Board know and it will be investigated. >> >> 2016-05-16 14:48 GMT+02:00 Daniel Espinosa : >> > Could you include a point to discuss how to avoid any organization or >> > individual, could use GNOME trademark to promote against GNOME? >> > >> > Is the case of World of GNOME (WOGUE on G+). It recently has pushed >> blaming, >> > unsupported complaints (based on real data from projects maintainers). >> > >> > While I'm not against he can publish his complaints on GNOME, I think he >> > can't use GNOME trademark to push negative, or few news to try to >> support >> > its negative ideas about GNOME. >> > >> > Sure, feedback is good, but while he is not part of GNOME Foundation, >> may he >> > is unable to use GNOME trademark to blame and no positive actions to >> help. >> > >> > El may. 16, 2016 2:53 AM, "Andrea Veri" escribió: >> >> >> >> = Minutes for Monday, May 9th 2016, 19:30 UTC = >> >> >> >> Next meeting date Monday, May 16th, 19:30 UTC >> >> >> >> Wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/FoundationBoard/Minutes/20160509 >> >> >> >> == Attending == >> >> >> >> * Alexandre Franke >> >> * Jeff F. T. (chairing) >> >> * Ekaterina Gerasimova >> >> * Cosimo Cecchi >> >> * Allan Day >> >> * Rosanna Yuen >> >> * Shaun McCance >> >> >> >> == Regrets == >> >> >> >> * Andrea Veri >> >> >> >> == Missing == >> >> >> >> >> >> == Agenda == >> >> >> >> * Preparing the advisory board meeting >> >> * ED Search Update >> >> * GUADEC Manchester bid >> >> >> >> === Ongoing === >> >> >> >> '''The following section is part of the Agenda and includes items which >> >> have seen updates in the last 30 days. Items which have been updated >> more >> >> than 30 days ago are listed under the "Ongoing but stalled" section.''' >> >> >> >> * ED Search Update >> >> * Unixstickers >> >> * Google ad grant >> >> * Selling 3rd party merch at confs >> >> * Friends of GNOME >> >> * GUADEC registration fee vs donation system >> >> >> >> == Minutes == >> >> >> >> * Preparing the advisory board meeting >> >> * Meeting is scheduled for Monday 16th May at 16:00 UTC >> >> * Allan has a presentation draft and asks for Board members to give >> some >> >> presentations >> >>* And also should fill in as backup speakers in case some of the >> >> invitees are not able to talk >> >>* Need a volunteer for ED search update >> >> * Shaun is happy to talk but we need to come up with a narrative >> >>* Allan will prepare a draft for slides, and will require input from >> >> some Board members to add data, and general proofreading >> >>* Screenshots can be taken from the release notes, and we can use >> some >> >> event photos too >> >> >> >> * ED Search Update >> >> * There was a question about whether we should revise the >> position/job >> >> description, but the Board did not come to a conclusion on this in >> previous >> >> discus
This week in Gnome?
Was thinking that maybe it would be a good idea to set up a this week in gnome blog. Also maybe try and get more downstream developers who have attempted to target gnome to have their blogs syndicated on the planet, engaging with developers who are targeting elementary might also be a good idea. There have been efforts to port applications to gnome HIG in the past which have gone somewhat under the radar. This is quiet unfortunate. -> https://github.com/derekstavis/transmission ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: This week in Gnome?
I'm under the impression that even just making a digest of Planet GNOME alone would be a full-time job* (also tricky in terms of curation)... If on top of that you widen the scope to include even third-party apps from outside of the GNOME infrastructure, well... you turn into That Recently Discussed News Site That Shall Not Be Named. It also overlaps, to some extent, with http://news.gnome.org or our various social media outlets (much easier to just point to blog posts using social media). IMHO, those would seem to be good places for this writing to happen, were it to be in any official fashion. *: or for it to be done collectively and systematically, the ##SELECTION_END##Engagement team would need to be much bigger than it is right now. Care to join? :)___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: This week in Gnome?
On Wed, 2016-05-18 at 23:36 +, John McHugh wrote: > Was thinking that maybe it would be a good idea to set up a this week > in > gnome blog. Can you make it happen? It sounds like a good idea to me, but it needs someone to make it happen. Michael ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
