Re: Meeting Minutes Published - November 11, 2010

2010-12-18 Thread Cesar Mauri Loba
Hi,

  Based on the Orca (or even a more general a11y) roadmap, it may be
  possible to get some funding from companies or associations
 interested
  in seeing Orca get better (although a lot of the associations seem to
 be
  focussing more on NVDA because it works on Windows).
 
  Just thought I'd chime in here. I spent a bit of time searching for
  funding to work on Caribou after the ATRC  / IDRC cut funding for my
  position. The feedback I received was a similar story; the potential
  funders seemed only interested in an applications that would serve
  their users who primarily use Windows. Obviously this will be an issue
  when searching for funding for GNOME a11y projects - especially new
  projects that don't have an established group of users like Caribou.

And what about turning Orca into cross-platform? I would attract funding
from different sources.

César

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Re: Meeting Minutes Published - November 11, 2010

2010-12-18 Thread Cesar Mauri

 El 17/12/2010 12:21, Piñeiro escribió:

So now the problems. Take into account that turn Orca cross-platform
is not just be able to compile Orca on Windows. There are more pieces
that it would be required to turn:

   * at-spi: Orca is a screen reader that gets all the information from
at-spi. So at-spi should also be migrated.

   * new bridge: right now, the communication path between the apps and
 at-spi is the ATK bridge or the QT bridge. Windows apps doesn't
 use ATK, AFAIK, it uses IAccessible2. So a new bridge should be
 required.

So, turn cross-platform Orca means turns two modules, and create a new
one. This is a really big amount of work to do. And we enter in a
vicious circle. You proposed that turn in order to get funds. But we
would require a really big amount of funds to get that.
Thanks for your explanation which helped me to understand better how 
Orca works.


Agreed. Given this scenario it seems clear that the effort is greater 
than the return.


However, IMHO, I think that this approach could be taken into account 
for some new
AT projects, especially those less dependant on specific api's (for 
instance, I'm thinking
of AAC software). Beyond probably increasing funding opportunities 
(according to previous
comments in this thread), a larger user base could be reached. Is just 
my opinion.


César
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