Re: Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022
On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 01:32:37PM -0400, Gregory Leblanc via foundation-list wrote: > Foundation members, > > I know that this has been coming for a while but as a former contributor > who generally just wants to keep tabs on the major changes and > announcements, this particular change will mean that I probably don't keep > tabs on anything. There's no obvious replacement on 'discourse.gnome.org'. > The closest I can see is a 'community' category which is entirely too > broad. Entering the 'foundation-announce' tag, which is how I interpreted > the information below, yields nothing. Given the immense talents involved > with Gnome, I'm sad that no one came up with a better solution than simply > dropping foundation-announce. Have you tried the "announcement" tag? https://discourse.gnome.org/tags/c/community/8/announcement Neil ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Moving final mailman lists over to discourse
On Thu, 2022-09-29 at 14:18 -0300, Rafael Fontenelle wrote: > Hi Neil, > > Reading your list-of-lists.txt attachment I noticed that some mailing > lists used by language teams in Damned Lies are in the "Lists to > close" category. These mailing lists are used by Damned Lies to send > notifications of translation activities. If closed there's a chance > it > could break Damned Lies notifications, and I don't think Damned Lies > is not able to notify Discourse. Damned Lies can indeed notify Discourse - there's an email interface if needed, which is what the release team ended up doing. However, I think a better idea is to rethink the workflow a little... I'll follow up on the issue :) > > I recommend double-checking that with GTP coordinators. > > The language team lists I found in the text file are: There's a couple missing from your list (like -cyr) and a couple that haven't seen postings since 2009 (like -latin), but yes. Let's continue over on https://gitlab.gnome.org/Infrastructure/damned-lies/-/issues/325 :) Neil -- Neil McGovern Executive Director, The GNOME Foundation ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Moving final mailman lists over to discourse
Hi folks, On Mon, 2022-08-22 at 14:36 +0100, Neil McGovern wrote: > > As mentioned about three years ago, there's a desire to retire > > mailman > > and its dependencies on python2. Discussion is now happening on > > discourse.gnome.org. > > > > Over the coming month, I'll be going through each list that > > remains, > > seeing if they're still alive and moving them over [0] > > I've gone through every mailing list that we host, and broadly split them into two categories - lists that can be closed and ones that should be migrated to discourse. For those which should close, they've had very low activity (in some cases, zero...). For those that should move, I've made sure that there's tags in place so people can filter for a specific subject if they want. Please see the attached. For both, the archives will be preserved, but they won't accept or distribute any new mail after the end of October. Again, as a reminder, if you have any automation that's posting to mailing lists, let me know (Thanks to the release team for having already done so :P). Thanks, Neil -- Neil McGovern Executive Director, The GNOME Foundation Lists to close - gnome-outreachy-list outreachy-admins-list flattr-list fundraising gnome-hispano-board-list intern-alumni-list interns-list internships-admin opw-admins-list opw-list opw-opportunities-list beast ekiga-list engagement-committee-private f-spot-list fonts girl-list glom-devel-list gnome-ar-list gnome-asia-list gnome-ca-list gnome-cl-list gnome-cn-list gnome-color-manager-list gnome-cs-list gnome-cy-list gnome-cyr gnome-db-list gnome-de gnome-devel-list gnome-devtools gnome-doc-devel-list gnome-el-list gnome-eo-list gnome-es-list gnome-et-list gnome-flashback-list gnome-fr-list gnome-fy-list gnome-ge-list gnome-gl-list gnome-hispano-list gnome-hu-list gnome-in-list gnome-ir-list gnome-l10n-ta-list gnome-latin-list gnome-list gnome-lk-list gnome-network-list gnome-nl-list gnome-no gnome-office-list gnome-os-list gnome-pe-list gnome-pk-list gnome-power-manager-list gnome-pt_br-list gnome-se-list gnome-sk-list gnome-themes-list gnome-turk gnome-tw-list gnome-us-list gnome-vi-list gnome-web-list gnomecc-list goocanvas-list grilo-list gtk-doc-list gtk-osx-devel-list gtk-osx-users-list gtk-vnc-list gtranslator-list guadec-organization guadec-papers guadec-volunteers-list gugmasters-list gvfs-list language-bindings latexila-list legal-list Legal-updates-list libgee-list libpeas-list libsigc-list Mailman nautilus-list orca-es-list outreach-list outreachy-opportunities-list planner-list python-hackers-list rust-list sfbay-social-list travel-committee wm-spec-list Lists to move to Discourse - asia-summit-list balsa-list brasero-list cheese-list desktop-devel-list devel-announce-list dia-list distributor-list docs-feedback easytag-list eog-list evince-list evolution-hackers evolution-list foundation-announce foundation-list games-list gegl-developer-list gimp-developer-list gimp-docs-list gimp-gui-list gimp-user-list gimp-web-list gitg-list gmime-devel-list gnome-accessibility-devel gnome-accessibility-list gnome-doc-list gnome-i18n gnome-it-list gnome-shell-extensions-list gnome-women-list gnote-list gnumeric-list gthumb-list gtk-perl-list gtkmm-list libchamplain-list libsoup-list libxmlplusplus-list mc mc-devel networkmanager-list orca-list ostree-list planner-dev-list xml xslt ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Moving final mailman lists over to discourse
Hi folks, As mentioned about three years ago, there's a desire to retire mailman and its dependencies on python2. Discussion is now happening on discourse.gnome.org. Over the coming month, I'll be going through each list that remains, seeing if they're still alive and moving them over [0] The main large ones that remain are foundation-(announce-)list and desktop-(announce-)list. If you have any automatic email senders for those, please let me know so we can either update your scripts to use the API, or just update the email address. Thanks, Neil [0] See https://discourse.gnome.org/t/how-to-move-a-mailing-list-to-discourse/1642/7 -- Neil McGovern Executive Director, The GNOME Foundation ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Board of Directors Candidacy - Sammy Fung
On Tue, 2022-06-07 at 03:51 +0800, Sammy Fung wrote: > After my 10-year involvement at GNOME Asia Committee, I suggest that > the young outreach is an important task to sustain the GNOME and open > source community. By connecting global GNOME & F/OSS contributors and > local open source communities, it enables that more students will > become the future contributors in the GNOME and open source > communities. > Just for the record, I second Sammy's candidacy. Neil -- Neil McGovern Executive Director, The GNOME Foundation ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Running for the GNOME Foundation Board of Directors.
On Wed, 2022-06-01 at 14:05 -0700, Jeremy Allison via foundation- announce wrote: > Hi all at the GNOME Foundation, > > I would respectfully like to submit my candidacy for the GNOME > Foundation Board of Directors. I am the co-creator of the Samba Free > Software Project, and am employed as Samba maintainer by Google's > Open > Source Programs Office. > I also second this nomination. Neil -- Neil McGovern Executive Director, The GNOME Foundation ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: FSF in the advisory board
On Fri, 2021-03-26 at 11:11 -0300, Germán Poo-Caamaño wrote: > Hi, > > The Gnome Foundation signed the letter calling the board of the Free > Software Foundation to step down and for Richard Stallman to be > removed > from all leadership position. The same letter that also asks to stop > supporting the FSF. > > Is the board considering removing the FSF from the advisory board? > > For consistency, I think we should do it temporarily. > I can't speak for the board, but my view is that we should wait until the FSF has had time for a fuller response before formally making any changes to the advisory board. In the mean time though, I've hidden the FSF logo from our website in case that is seen as an endorsement. Neil -- Neil McGovern Executive Director, The GNOME Foundation ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
GUADEC 2020 moves to online conference
Hi all, I've just posted the following to our website, and to discourse at https://discourse.gnome.org/t/guadec-2020-moves-to-online-conference/3067 - After a lot of careful consideration and consultation with the local organizing team, the GNOME Foundation has decided that GUADEC 2020 will take place entirely online due to the COVID-19 pandemic. The event will feature the expected high quality content, streamed over the internet for anyone to participate. Mexico will now host GUADEC 2021, and we are planning for GUADEC 2022 to be in Latvia. “Although over three months away, there is no way we could ensure that the event could continue in a way that would keep our community safe.” said Neil McGovern, Executive Director of the GNOME Foundation. “It is with a heavy heart that, after consultation with the local organizing team, we won’t be visiting Mexico with GUADEC this year.” We at the GNOME Foundation love GUADEC, it’s a once-a-year event that brings us together to collaborate, celebrate, and learn; meet our colleagues and friends; and strengthen the most special part of the GNOME project — the community. While we will miss meeting in-person, we are excited for the new opportunities that meeting online will bring to the event. People who weren’t able to participate previously will be able to. We’ll have a much wider pool of potential speakers and session facilitators, as visas and travel fees will no longer be an issue. We’re looking into creative and innovative ways to bring new types of socializing, sponsor representation, and community time to GUADEC 2020. Due to the new format, we are re-opening the Call for Papers. We’ll be keeping you updated on things as they develop, on GNOME.org, the Engagement Blog and on social media. Follow, subscribe, or just check in! - Thanks, -- Neil McGovern Executive Director, The GNOME Foundation ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Moving foundation-list to discourse?
On Wed, 2019-09-04 at 11:09 +0100, Allan Day wrote: > I think with Discourse you have to opt in to get email notifications? > That could be an issue. Certainly with things like the AGM, the board > is required to serve notice to all members. Yes, you do. Although for AGM notices etc, I don't think it's sufficient to simply post to a mailing list. For this year's one, we sent an individual mail to each member. Neil -- Neil McGovern Executive Director, The GNOME Foundation ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Moving foundation-list to discourse?
On Wed, 2019-09-04 at 01:51 -0400, Richard Stallman wrote: > I have heard that there is a gateway between Discourse and email. > Is it possible to use that here? > It's already in place. Neil -- Neil McGovern Executive Director, The GNOME Foundation ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Moving foundation-list to discourse?
On Fri, 2019-08-30 at 11:10 +0200, Alexandre Franke wrote: > Not objecting at all but I think this raises a couple questions as to > what it would entail, most notable regarding board meeting minutes > and other announcements. Currently, most of them are sent to the > foundation-announce list which I assume we want to keep, but then any > followup discussion lands on foundation-list. I’m not sure how that > would work with Discourse. I would imagine actually, that it may be better to just post these to Discourse, in the community category. There's a couple of ways that we can improve visibility by using tags and stickies for important things (for example, we already have the #announcements tag: https://discourse.gnome.org/tags/announcement) We could add a #minutes tag too. One advantage of this is that users can subscribe to a particular tag, and get notifications about those. Would that make sense? Neil -- Neil McGovern Executive Director, The GNOME Foundation ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: GNOME Foundation 2019 Annual General Meeting (AGM)
On Wed, 2019-07-24 at 13:03 -0700, Nuritzi Sanchez wrote: > > About the vote: > > This year, there will be a vote about bylaw changes that the Board > > is proposing, including changes to Board terms and updating the > > bylaws to make them more gender-neutral. These proposed changes are > > attached to this email. Dear all, For information, the results of these votes were: gender_neutral.patch: Yes - 73, No - 2 board-terms.patch: Yes - 69, No - 5, Abstain - 1 These have therefore been adopted. Neil -- Neil McGovern Executive Director, The GNOME Foundation ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Moving foundation-list to discourse?
Hi Olav, On Tue, 2019-08-13 at 18:28 +, Olav Vitters wrote: > it has been around half a year since GNOME started to host a > Discourse[0] instance, which was generally well received. > > Listadmin wise (I'm NOT the admin here!), mailman is not really nice > to > use. If something ends up in the moderation queue it'll take quite a > bit > of effort for a moderator to look at it. > > Discourse is free software (including the Javascript) and the > dependencies are also free software. > > You can sign up in various ways. First of all there's regular > email+password. It also allows single-sign on systems, like Google > and > Github, to authenticate yourself. Lastly (and preferred way) if you > have > a GNOME LDAP account already, you're strongly encouraged to use that > method of authentication. > > You can still use email to interact with Discourse, and a guide is > available[2]. The interaction is both ways (sending and receiving). > It's > even possible to make Discourse behave like an mailing list. > > For specific questions or feedback on Discourse, please post in the > appropriate category[3]. > > Do people agree to move this to Discourse? Does anyone have > objections > or concerns? I didn't check with the current list admins btw. > As another data point, all GTK (and builder) discussions have moved to discourse, and I know the Docs teams are also willing to transition. GTK has seen much more activity on there than all GTK lists combined with mailman. In general, I would suggest that the foundation list moves over, unless there are actually any serious objections. Perhaps a discussion at GUADEC could also be had. If there's no objections, I'm happy to help manage the transition, with an aim of retiring this list by the end of October. Comments please! Neil -- Neil McGovern Executive Director, The GNOME Foundation ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Nepotism, Conflict of interest: Debian GSoC/Outreachy/OSI board
Hi, On Mon, 2019-07-22 at 15:16 +, Mollamby via foundation-list wrote: > One of the conflicts of interest comes across to GNOME > I have full confidence in our staff, and consider your comments here decisive and harmful. Please do not post here again. Neil -- Neil McGovern Executive Director, The GNOME Foundation ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: [guadec-list] Registration for GUADEC 2019 is now open!
Hi Alex, On Thu, 2019-07-18 at 10:54 +0300, Kiwi TCMS wrote: > На 18.07.19 г. в 2:26 ч., Kristi Progri написа: > > Hi all, > > > > The GUADEC organizers are pleased to announce that the > > *registration for GUADEC > > 2019* is now open. > > Hello Kristi, > when are you going to announce which proposals have been approved and > which ones > have not been approved? Website says schedule announcement was due in > June but > so far I haven't seen anything for my submissions. > Please accept my apologies for the delay here, which was due to a number of technical issues with our conference software, and key volunteers being unavoidably busy at critical times. We hope to get this resolved in the next couple of days and to notify everyone and publish the schedule. Neil -- Neil McGovern Executive Director, The GNOME Foundation ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: "EvilGnome Backdoor"
Dear Andy, Thanks for this, we are aware and have looked into it. It's annoying, as this malware actually has nothing to do with any vulnerability in GNOME, and will work on any system whether it is running GNOME or not. Unfortunately, it's quite difficult to reply to this. Neil On Wed, 2019-07-17 at 23:31 -0700, Andy Tai wrote: > "malware masquerading as a Gnome shell extension and designed to spy > on unsuspecting desktop users" > https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/new-evilgnome-backdoor-spies-on-linux-users-steals-their-files/ > > While this is just another malware, it probably deserves attention as > it uses the GNOME name and can be harmful to GNOME users not used to > malware... > -- Neil McGovern Executive Director, The GNOME Foundation ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Minutes of the board meeting of June 24, 2019
On Tue, 2019-07-09 at 14:52 -0500, mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote: > I agree with Meg that it would be a bit sad to lose our only North > America event indeed (especially since it only occurs every second > year), but I guess events happen where people are willing to host > them > Indeed, it's something I'm aware of too, and it's part of the reason we're having a large (3 team) simultaneous hackfest next week in Portland: https://wiki.gnome.org/Hackfests/WestCoastHackfest I'm also exploring options of holding something in Mexico, possibly next year. Neil -- Neil McGovern Executive Director, The GNOME Foundation ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: GNOME ASIA logo competition
(re-ordering slightly for flow) On Tue, 2019-07-02 at 22:15 -0400, Richard Stallman wrote: > The term "MIT license" is ambiguous -- it stands for either the X11 > license or the Expat license. You can tell which by looking at the > actual license text in the source and comparing with those two > entries > in https://gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html. In FSF terms, it's the Expat licence. > The source pointers are needed because these pages contain compiled > code. (More precisely, minified -- but that is a kind of > compilation.) It is ok to use minified code, but it needs to come > with the corresponding source code. Luckily, the full and corresponding source code is available. I think, however, what you're asking is for is a pointer in a format that is machine readable by LibreJS. > It is possible to fix the problem by adding a machine-recognizable > license notice for the appropriate license at the top of the > pertinent > pages, plus a source code pointer for each page. See > https://gnu.org/software/librejs/free-your-javascript.html for > documentation. I had a look at that, it seems that the implementation of Web Labels table: a) doesn't support wildcarding or regexes b) requires a physical link to be added to every page rather than fetching from a known location. Given that we are keen to avoid divergence from upstream, at a minimum I would want to see the above added to LibreJS before we can reliably produce a Web Label table. Do you know if there's plans to add this functionality? Neil -- Neil McGovern Executive Director, The GNOME Foundation ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: GNOME ASIA logo competition
On Mon, 2019-07-01 at 22:11 -0400, Richard Stallman wrote: > > There are 29 logos competing with each other and you can vote for > your 3 > > favorites by leaving a comment here: > > https://gitlab.gnome.org/Teams/Events/GNOMEAsia/issues/46 > > I am sad to report that this page seems to require nonfree Javascript > code. Looking at the page with LibreJS to protect me from nonfree > Javascript code, I don't see any of the logos. All JavaScript served on that page comes from GNOME hosted servers and it is all MIT licensed, as is the entirety of GitLab CE, which is what we're running. Neil -- Neil McGovern Executive Director, The GNOME Foundation ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
New GNOME Foundation staffer - Strategic Initiatives Manager
Dear Foundation members, I'm very pleased to announce that Molly de Blanc joined us yesterday (23rd April) to take on the role of Strategic Initiatives Manager. This role is crucial to ensure we continue to have a sustainable and growing Foundation. I'm greatly looking forward to her getting up to speed and seeing the impact her work will have, not only on fundraising, but also on community engagement. Molly comes from the Free Software Foundation where she was the Campaigns Manager, working on community organizing around digital rights issues. She's also a member of the Board of Directors of the Open Source Initiative, and on the Debian Outreach and Anti-harassment teams. Regularly speaking at conferences around the world, she has represented multiple projects in community and corporate contexts. I'm sure you'll all give her a warm welcome in this new role! Neil -- Neil McGovern Executive Director, The GNOME Foundation ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
New GNOME Foundation staffer - DevOps Sysadmin
Dear Foundation members, I'm very pleased to announce that Bartłomiej Piotrowski has joined us yesterday (11th January) to take on the role of a DevOps oriented Sysadmin. This role is to support both Flathub and our existing Sysadmin, Andrea Veri. Bartłomiej has been involved with Flathub the beginning and has held jobs as sysadmin since 2011. He's one of the core 36 Arch Linux developers where he is currently the maintainer of the GNU toolchain and associated libraries as well as a founding member of the Arch Infratructure team. He's on IRC as barthalion, but members are gently reminded that the contact points for the sysadmin team remain listed at https://wiki.gnome.org/Sysadmin/Contact :) I'm sure you'll all give him a warm welcome in this new role! Thanks, Neil -- Neil McGovern Executive Director, The GNOME Foundation ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
New GNOME Foundation staffer - Program Coordinator
Dear Foundation members, I'm very pleased to announce that Kristi Progri has joined us today (3rd January) to take on the role of Program Coordinator. Kristi is a previous Outreachy intern for Mozilla, and has worked with FSFE as well as running a local Hackerspace, and convinced the local government in Tirana, Albania to move to Nextcloud. She also has been organising https://oscal.openlabs.cc/ - Albania's largest FOSS conference with ~400 attendees. She's also talked at a multitude of conferences including FOSDEM, FSFE Summit and the Mozilla Leadership Summit. I'm sure you'll all give her a warm welcome in this new role! Thanks, Neil -- Neil McGovern Executive Director, The GNOME Foundation ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: New GNOME Foundation employee - GTK+ Core Developer
On Sun, 2018-12-02 at 19:25 -0500, James wrote: > One question: is Emmanuele given any particular tasks or direction > for > GTK+, eg: does the GNOME foundation have any specific priorities > they'd like to address, or is it more self-directed? > In general, the Foundation has the following high level goals: * Increased user base * Sustainable project and foundation * Wider awareness and mindshare As part of this, we're coming up with medium length (think: 5 year) strategies and goals, and the GTK work will feed into this. So it's not a free-for-all, but as with any employment, I expect a certain amount of self-direction and a conversation about what any employee thinks would be best to concentrate on. This will start to form in the next few weeks. We're already looking at GTK team meetings, and a development plan. Neil -- Neil McGovern Executive Director, The GNOME Foundation ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
New GNOME Foundation employee - GTK+ Core Developer
Dear Foundation members, After a long and robust recruitment process, I'm very pleased to announce our first new staff member in a while. Emmanuele Bassi will be joining us tomorrow (3rd December) to take on the role of GTK+ Core Developer! Emmanuele has a long history of contributions to GTK, and has been a Foundation member himself for over 12 years. Previously working at Endless, Mozilla and Intel, where he contributed to many components of the GNOME core development platform, I'm happy to bring him on board to continue his commitment to the project. I'm sure you'll all give him a warm welcome in this new role! Thanks, Neil -- Neil McGovern Executive Director, The GNOME Foundation ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
GNOME Foundation opens recruitment for further expansion
Hi all, I've just posted the following item to our site: https://www.gnome.org/news/2018/07/gnome-foundation-opens-recruitment-f or-further-expansion/ tl;dr: we're recruiting! We're currently looking to fill four posts: * Development Coordinator This will ensure that we receive sufficient funds to continue our work delivering free software - it should be noted that this isn't a software development coordinator! * Program Coordinator The Program Coordinator will free up time from those involved in organizational, administrative and logistical problems * Devops/Sysadmin The systems and services we run need proper maintenance and care. As Flathub continues to grow, more support is needed to achieve this. * GTK+ core developer GTK+ is core to our entire platform. Investing in development and maintenance of this toolkit will benefit the whole GNU/Linux ecosystem. We're keen to hear from any person who is interested in applying for one of these posts. Details on how to apply and the application deadlines can be found on the Foundation’s Positions Available page at https://www.gnome.org/foundation/careers/ I hope everyone is having an awesome time at GUADEC, Neil -- Neil McGovern Executive Director, The GNOME Foundation ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Minutes of the Foundation Board, 19th June
On Wed, 2018-06-20 at 11:08 -0500, mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote: > On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 10:04 AM, Allan Day wrote: > > * URGENT - LuNel/Odoo development cost (Neil) > > * This has been on the agenda for a few weeks and has become > > urgent. > > Neil - GnuCash is difficult to use and loses our financial data. > > We've > > been trialing Odoo. It has an enterprise/community split model > > (where > > enterprise is proprietary and community is Free Software). > > Something > > we're missing is the ability to import Paypal. We've been talking > > to a > > company about adding this feature to the community edition for us. > > They've been very helpful so far, and they supportive. > > * The choice is between this and using a proprietary solution. > > Any > > code that's written will be Free Software. > > * Neil - there's scope in the budget for this. We'll have a > > contract > > with them. > > * VOTE: approve $4,000 USD for a module that imports Paypal data > > into Odoo > > * +1 unanimous - approved > > Hi, > > Sounds like we got a good price for this work. > > What company is providing the Odoo development? I searched for > "LuNel" > but didn't find any relevant web results. Is LuNel the contractor? > They are indeed. https://lunelerp.com/ > When the project is completed, I'd appreciate a quick summary to > indicate whether the Board was satisfied with the contractor. > Sure, I'll follow up when it's done so it should appear in the minutes. Would you like something explicit on this list too? Neil -- Neil McGovern Executive Director, The GNOME Foundation ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Travel Sponsorship Delays and Next Steps
On Wed, 2018-06-13 at 19:48 +0200, Tobias Mueller wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, 2018-06-13 at 12:38 +0100, Neil McGovern wrote: > > We're processing personal data of individuals who are located in > > the > > EU, so we need to comply. > > So you think you fall under §3.2.a GDPR? > Yup, when combined with Recital 23. Neil -- Neil McGovern Executive Director, The GNOME Foundation ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Travel Sponsorship Delays and Next Steps
On Fri, 2018-06-08 at 11:17 +0200, Didier Roche wrote: > Le 08/06/2018 à 10:06, Tobias Mueller a écrit : > > Hi, > > Hey Tobias, > > > > On Fri, 2018-06-08 at 08:07 +0200, Didier Roche wrote: > > > Neil and the Travel Committee are working hard in changing the > > > current > > > process of handling requests to comply to GDPR. > > > > I applaud the efforts, but what makes you think you fall under the > > regulations of the GDPR? > > > > I believe to have some intermediary level knowledge of the GDPR and > > how > > to assess whether anything is in need of compliance and I'd be > > interested in learning why you think the Foundation needs to > > comply. > > This was initially raised by the Travel Committee itself. > > After a deeper look by Neil who has worked on this topic on other > areas > for the GNOME Foundation, there is an agreement that some process > changes were needed to comply. I'll let him expand on this (probably > once the work for getting things in shape and unblock the current > situation is done). > We're processing personal data of individuals who are located in the EU, so we need to comply. What we don't need is a named Data Protection Officer (we have less than 250 employees). What we were missing was: * a privacy notice saying what we collect, what we do with it, and what legal basis we have for collecting it (which is now in place!) * An easy way to ensure that requests, for the travel committee, can be deleted when there's no requirement to keep it anymore (we're now using RT rather than an email list) * a confidentiality agreement for those who process personal data (now in place, but not technically a GDPR requirement) Happy to answer any more questions, Neil -- Neil McGovern Executive Director, The GNOME Foundation ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Anonymous donor pledges $1M over two years
Hi all, An anonymous donor has pledged to donate up to $1,000,000 over the next two years, some of which will be matching funds. I'm grateful for this donation and we plan on using these funds to increase staff to streamline operations and to grow support of the GNOME Project and the surrounding ecosystem. While we have maintained our position as a proponent of the GNOME Project, growth has been limited. With these funds, the Foundation will be able to expand and lead in the free software space. Details about the donation and the areas of investment will be announced individually in the coming weeks. Thanks, Neil -- Neil McGovern Executive Director, The GNOME Foundation ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Minutes of the Foundation Board, 27th March
On Thu, 2018-03-29 at 15:17 +0100, Allan Day wrote: > Carlos Soriano wrote: > ... > > > > * Employee Handbook & Records Retention Policy (Nuritzi) > > > > * > > > > https://wiki.gnome.org/FoundationBoardPrivate/Staff/EmployeeHan > > > > dbook#Records_Retention_Policy > > > > > > Hi board, is there any reason for the employee handbook to be > > > private? > > > It shouldn't contain any sensitive information and can > > > potentially be > > > useful as a basis for other foundations/not-for-profits if it's > > > freely > > > licensed. > > For the record, the handbook has been in that private location since > it was created back in 2009. But yes, I agree that it should be > public > if possible. > It was originally based on templates from www.business.gov (which doesn't seem to exist anymore...) so I assume it's public domain. It's never been officially approved by the Foundation, so I assume that's why it's not been published. However, it is now about 8 years old, and so needs a review. For info, it's not a simple thing to do this review - there's quite a lot of "stuff" in there. I've created https://gitlab.gnome.org/Communit y/Board/issues/43 so people who are interested in this topic can follow along at home! Neil -- Neil McGovern Executive Director, The GNOME Foundation ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Mapbox status
Hi Niels, On Thu, 2018-01-04 at 14:03 +0100, Niels De Graef wrote: > In light of the previous thread on the maps mailing list [1], I would > like to ask if anyone knows about the plans for the Mapbox tile > service in both the long term and the short term. > > Short term: am I correct in thinking that we have now transferred > onto > the pay-as-you-go plan (as mentioned in the last thread)? If so, does > the foundation get the bill and does the Board of Directors need to > know about this? If we can still enjoy the free plan, are the terms & > conditions still the same? In the short term, we're having our access extended on a month-by-month basis while we work out a more permanent solution. Big thanks to MapBox for this offer. We're working with MapBox to see what the cost of the pay-as-you-go plan would be, and are trying to see how that could be affordable for the Foundation. > Long term: if we can continue with MapBox or another service > provider, > are other GNOME apps also allowed to use this service (and the JSON > service file of Maps)? I'm asking this as the GNOME Contacts > maintainer, as the app sorely needs to look into updating its code > displaying maps. I'm at a point where I'm even considering > (temporarily) ripping that feature out as it's leading to crashes for > some people. > I'm not sure about the specifics for this, but AIUI, we have a GNOME redirector in place so in theory, we should have something more stable even if we do switch providers. I'm not entirely sure who runs that - any ideas? Neil -- Neil McGovern Executive Director, The GNOME Foundation ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Budgets and spending Foundation money
On Wed, 2017-12-06 at 19:42 +0100, Benjamin Berg wrote: > I mean spending through the travel policy, not spending by the travel > committee. As I understand it those are entirely separate processes > and > therefore I would expect separate items in the budget for this. > > I would find it rather odd if your travel as ED comes out of the TC > budget. > Ah, apologies, I understand what you're asking now: this is indeed seperate, it falls under employees, and is an 8k USD budget for the year. Neil -- Neil McGovern Executive Director, The GNOME Foundation ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Budgets and spending Foundation money
Hia, On Wed, 2017-12-06 at 12:22 +0100, Benjamin Berg wrote: > How much spending are you expecting to be done through the travel > policy for the next financial year and in which items in the budget > is this represented? > We have $40,000 budgetted for the travel committee, and that is in the Events line. The other additional one in there is $3k for "GNOME events" which covers things like release party reimburements, or other small events which are run. Note, this 40k doesn't cover GUADEC travel as I understand it, that falls under the GUADEC budget line. > PS: Other than that, I noticed: > * Limit for flights is >$1,650 in the summary but >$1800 in the text I believe that this is as it's for 1650 for the flight portion, and 1800 total. The actual change that got introduced at conservancy is: https://k.sfconservancy.org/policies/changeset/9569a5bbae38cffa181caa9d f9cd91fcd3169e8e > * Text says "Conservancy" (instead of Foundation?) in one place Nice catch, thanks! As a bit of background, we're basically copying Conservancy's travel policy here. They've done the research on what's legal for a 501(c)(3) to do, and have sensible limits in place. It saves us rolling our own as well. Thanks, Neil -- Neil McGovern Executive Director, The GNOME Foundation ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Budgets and spending Foundation money
Hi all, As I mentioned in a previous mail, we had a Foundation Hackfest this October, in which we were looking at ways of making it easier to access Foundation funds. Allan Day, Nuritzi Sanchez, and Alexandre Franke already blogged about some of this [0][1][2], but this is a follow up to describe what we've now implemented in a bit more detail. Budgets --- The primary place which we're collecting this information is at https:/ /wiki.gnome.org/Foundation/BudgetAndSpending, and links off there. This holds the current policies that have been approved by the board, as well as... *drumroll* - this year's approved budget! We think it's important for Foundation members to be able to see this, and so it's linked above. The budget itself should be fairly self-explanatory, but if anyone has some questions, please let me know and I'll do my best to explain. Policies Two new policies also got approved - the spending policy and the reserves policy. Spending Policy: For spending, the previous position was that the board had to give their approval before any Foundation money was spent - which means a full vote of the board. We've introduced new approval limits (ie: greater than the zero it was before) in order to make things a bit more flexible. Additionally, there's the concept of budget holders - people or teams who can approve spending. These will be reviewed on an annual basis. Currently, there's not much change to the way things work for the Travel Committee. Sysadmin funds can be handled by Andrea Veri directly, and the engagement team (or more specifically, Nuritzi) can approve items from the marketing and 'small events' areas. Reserves Policy: Reserves is an interesting one. We're a 501(c)(3), which means we're a non-profit. People who donate to the Foundation want that money to be spent on making GNOME better. On the other hand, running with zero money in the bank day-to-day isn't the most sustainable thing to do either. This codifies a good reserves policy - ie: how much money we should be keeping around to make sure we stay solvent and are able to continue investing in the project. Transferwise We know that a number of people have had trouble with getting payments through either bank transfer, or paypal. Additionally, the fees to both recipients and the Foundation are quite high, and exchange rates aren't the best in some cases. So, we've heared your feedback and have now trialed a service called Transferwise. This should hopefully make it easier and cheaper to send money to Foundation members who need reimbursement. Note that it's not a magic pill, and there's still some complications for a few countries, but it should make it easier for the majority of people. [0] https://www.alexandrefranke.com//blog/20171010-Foundation-hackfest- in-Berlin/ [1] https://nuritzis.com/2017/10/21/2017-gnome-foundation-hackfest/ [2] https://blogs.gnome.org/aday/2017/10/13/policy-hacking/ -- Neil McGovern Executive Director, The GNOME Foundation ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Feedback request: spending Foundation money
Hi all, As part of the improvements at the Foundation, we're looking at implementing some spending policies - with the aim of improving the responsiveness and ease of spending Foundation funds on things that will benefit the project. So, if you have any comments, or thoughts on how this can be improved, please reply, or drop me a mail - we plan on discussing this in detail at the Foundation Hackfest[0] at the start of next month! Thanks, Neil [0] https://wiki.gnome.org/Hackfests/Foundation2017 -- Neil McGovern Executive Director, The GNOME Foundation ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
FY 2016 published
Hi all, It's with great pleasure to let everyone know that the 2016 annual report has now been published. You can find this linked off https://www .gnome.org/foundation/reports/, or directly at https://www.gnome.org/wp -content/uploads/2017/07/GAR2016-web.pdf If you know of someone who it would be useful to get a physical copy (eg: if they're interested in sponsorship!) then drop me a mail, and I'll see how many copies we have left at the end of GUADEC. Cheers, Neil -- Neil McGovern Executive Director, The GNOME Foundation ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Send us your pants nominations
Hi all, GUADEC is coming up soon, and with GUADEC comes the annual Pants Award. Every year, GNOME awards a pair of pants to somebody in recognition of their outstanding contributions. The board will make the final decision on who receives the pants, but we'd love to hear your nominations. The award can be for any kind of contribution to our software or our community. It does not have to be software development work. The only requirements are that the person is attending GUADEC to receive the pants, and that it's not a current or outgoing board member. Not sure if the person fits the requirements? Just nominate! We'll sort it out. Please feel free to send your nominations as a reply to this email. Or, if you'd prefer to nominate someone anonymously, email board-list. Thanks, Neil -- Neil McGovern Executive Director, The GNOME Foundation ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Quick introductions
Hi all, As previously announced, I've now started full time as the GNOME executive director. I thought I'd send a quick email to (officially) say hi! I'm trying to quickly get up to speed with everything, but please feel free to message me on IRC (as nmcgovern) if there's anything you want a chat about, or feel could do with some attention - I'm here to help everyone at the Foundation and in the wider community to be successful in getting free software into the hands of users. Thanks, Neil ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Welcome, Neil McGovern, GNOME Foundation Executive Director!
Hi all, On Mon, Feb 06, 2017 at 12:09:39AM +0100, Mattias Bengtsson wrote: > On Wed, 2017-02-01 at 14:21 -0800, Nuritzi Sanchez wrote: > > Dear Foundation Members, > > > > After a long period of being without an Executive Director, I'm > > pleased to announce on behalf of the GNOME Foundation Board the > > appointment of Neil McGovern. > > > > > > [...] > > Congratulations and welcome, Neil! Thanks to everyone for the warm welcome, it was also great to meet a number of you at FOSDEM. I'm looking forward to starting on the 15th! Neil ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list