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Dear Foundation, The Boston Summit is coming up in just two weeks, on Saturday, October 11 - Monday, October 13. Please add your name to the wiki if you plan to attend, add topics you would like to discuss, and blog about your plans for the event. Having an idea of how many participants are expected and what topics will be discussed sooner would help us seek sponsorship and make plans for breakfast, coffee, and a social event. https://wiki.gnome.org/Events/Summit/2014 Thanks, Marina ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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On 2014-07-22 09:00, Colin Walters wrote: On Tue, Jul 22, 2014, at 11:49 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: Colin, I've forwarded you a mail from Karen with confirmation that the rooms have been booked. She did this back in May. Awesome! I updated the wiki page with this info. And many thanks to Walter Bender for actually taking care of the reservation with MIT :) karen ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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If you need some help with things like ordering breakfast and coffee or booking Flattop Johnny's for an after party let me know. I'll most likely stop by to say hi. I just started at Google but I can see if they would like to sponsor something. No promises though. -- J5 On Jul 22, 2014 9:00 AM, "Colin Walters" wrote: > On Tue, Jul 22, 2014, at 11:49 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: > > > > Colin, I've forwarded you a mail from Karen with confirmation that the > > rooms have been booked. She did this back in May. > > Awesome! I updated the wiki page with this info. > ___ > foundation-list mailing list > foundation-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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On Tue, Jul 22, 2014, at 11:49 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: > > Colin, I've forwarded you a mail from Karen with confirmation that the > rooms have been booked. She did this back in May. Awesome! I updated the wiki page with this info. ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Boston Summit 2014
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 6:06 AM, Colin Walters wrote: > Hi, > > I know people are busy with GUADEC prep, but I just wanted to start the > thread early around this year's Boston Summit. Last year's was in > Montréal, so following the pattern we'll do Boston again, right? Karen, I seem to recall that you have already reserved the venue at MIT? Is that right? > I can take as an action item getting in touch with MIT for a venue > again. Would someone be able to look at sponsors? I think that has been done, but I'm not sure. sri ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Boston Summit 2014
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 6:06 AM, Colin Walters wrote: > Hi, > > I know people are busy with GUADEC prep, but I just wanted to start the > thread early around this year's Boston Summit. Last year's was in > Montréal, so following the pattern we'll do Boston again, right? > > I can take as an action item getting in touch with MIT for a venue > again. Would someone be able to look at sponsors? Colin, I've forwarded you a mail from Karen with confirmation that the rooms have been booked. She did this back in May. Here is the summary: CONFIRMATION OF CLASSROOM RESERVATION / FALL 2014 - SAP: MIT GNOME SUMMIT DATE: Saturday, October 11-Monday, October 13 TIME:9am-6pm ROOM: E51-315, E51-325, E51-335, E51-345 > ___ > foundation-list mailing list > foundation-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Boston Summit 2014
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Colin Walters wrote: > Hi, > > I know people are busy with GUADEC prep, but I just wanted to start the > thread early around this year's Boston Summit. Great initiative, a wiki page about this event are available [1]. 1 https://wiki.gnome.org/Events/Summit/2014 -- -mvh Oliver Propst ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Boston Summit 2014
Hi, I know people are busy with GUADEC prep, but I just wanted to start the thread early around this year's Boston Summit. Last year's was in Montréal, so following the pattern we'll do Boston again, right? I can take as an action item getting in touch with MIT for a venue again. Would someone be able to look at sponsors? ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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> As far as I see, there are 3 different people working on this (or at > least 2 plus another one interested in). It might be a good idea if you > could coordinate between yourselves if you have not done that yet. Yes, I'll email James and Tristan (are there others?) to try to coordinate something. ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Germán Póo-Caamaño wrote: > On Fri, 2013-05-03 at 17:00 +0100, Jeff Fortin wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I just wanted to let you know that I'm currently trying to organize this >> in Montréal, it would be lovely to have you folks here again. > > As far as I see, there are 3 different people working on this (or at > least 2 plus another one interested in). It might be a good idea if you > could coordinate between yourselves if you have not done that yet. We've been talking by email. If any other Montrealers are around, feel free to ping one of us. Cheers, James > > Regards, > > -- > Germán Poo-Caamaño > http://calcifer.org/ > > ___ > foundation-list mailing list > foundation-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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On Fri, 2013-05-03 at 17:00 +0100, Jeff Fortin wrote: > Hi all, > > I just wanted to let you know that I'm currently trying to organize this > in Montréal, it would be lovely to have you folks here again. As far as I see, there are 3 different people working on this (or at least 2 plus another one interested in). It might be a good idea if you could coordinate between yourselves if you have not done that yet. Regards, -- Germán Poo-Caamaño http://calcifer.org/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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Do we have a wiki page yet for this summit? ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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Hi all, I just wanted to let you know that I'm currently trying to organize this in Montréal, it would be lovely to have you folks here again. I'm researching venues and talking to various local folks right now to see where we could find some free venue. It will take me some time but I'll get back to you, so don't cross Montréal from the list just yet ;) (if you need to reach me, c.c./mail me directly as I'm not subscribed) P.s.: I had someone suggest that we could co-host it with a LibreOffice summit (I don't see a reason not to). ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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I couldn't see it, but since I see it is Portlandia "where young people go to retire" ;) On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: > On 13-04-30 08:58 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: > > > > We are a quirky bunch of people. :-) We're almost like Bostonians except > > maybe a little more weirder. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBt4HlcDUDw > > ? > > -- > behdad > http://behdad.org/ > ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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Rt awesome :-) On 1 May 2013 20:53, "Behdad Esfahbod" wrote: > On 13-04-30 08:58 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: > > > > We are a quirky bunch of people. :-) We're almost like Bostonians except > > maybe a little more weirder. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBt4HlcDUDw > > ? > > -- > behdad > http://behdad.org/ > ___ > foundation-list mailing list > foundation-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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On 13-04-30 08:58 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: > > We are a quirky bunch of people. :-) We're almost like Bostonians except > maybe a little more weirder. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBt4HlcDUDw ? -- behdad http://behdad.org/ ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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No, it's Thanksgiving, without the quotation marks. :) We've always
wondered why the Americans insist on having it on the wrong day. The end
of November? The snow is already flying then!
If Canada exports enough tar sands oil, by and by Canada will also
need to hold Thanksgiving in November ;-{.
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On 04/30/2013 07:21 PM, Germán Póo-Caamaño wrote: > On Tue, 2013-04-30 at 19:03 +0200, Piñeiro wrote: >> [...] >> What is the point of that long previous paragraph? Sincerely, for me, >> taking into account that we are talking about a small event, just >> starting to move to a different city for the sake of moving is an overkill. > AFAIU, the idea of doing it in different city is because of last > incident in Boston. It is not for the sake of moving it. FWIW, you are the first one mentioning that reason on the thread. > >> And as Benjamin opened the can of "Europe is far far away from >> Portland", this is even worse for people living in small cities. In my >> case I assisted the Boston summit twice (2009, 2012). And it was a >> Coruña-Madrid-Boston. In the hypothetical case of repeating this year, >> that extra "hop" would mean Coruña-Madrid-Amsterdam-Portland or >> Coruña-Madrid-Seattle-Boston. >> >>> But I'm under no illusion that for some that this might be harder to >>> get to. I'm still working the venue and hopefully I'll have something >>> by next week. >> Although working for the venue is appreciated, imho, is irrelevant. > It is relevant. Without venue or people organizing the event there is > no event. Yeah sorry, I didn't chose the proper word *. And probably it is complex to use just one word. Rewording my phrase: "Although working for the venue is appreciated, I really think that it would be better to use that effort (so time) in a different place, because, in my humble opinion, Portland is not a good option". And again, sorry if I sounded rude in my previous mail. Best regards * In the same way that I were constantly falling on a false friend, using 'assist' instead of 'attend'. -- Alejandro Piñeiro Iglesias ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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My offer of advice extends to this summit also. On May 1, 2013 12:57 AM, "Sriram Ramkrishna" wrote: > > > > On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 9:41 PM, meg ford wrote: > >> If we do bids, I might be able to talk the Chicago GNOME community into >> applying for a future year. We are in the middle of the US, and have a >> major international airport, so it might be a nice option. >> >> > Meg, that sounds like a great idea. > > > I think we have decided on Montreal since we have a volunteeer. You will > need to do a venue that will support 35-50 people. > > sri > > >> Meg >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 11:35 PM, Jared L Jennings < >> jaredljenni...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> +1 >>> Jared Jennings >>> jaredljenni...@gmail.com >>> >>> On Apr 30, 2013, at 8:27 PM, john palmieri >>> wrote: >>> >>> Just a suggestion, perhaps the next year's location should be bid on and >>> announced during the current year's summit like GUADEC is. That would make >>> it much easier to plan for budgets, etc. >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> foundation-list mailing list >>> foundation-list@gnome.org >>> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list >>> >>> >> >> ___ >> foundation-list mailing list >> foundation-list@gnome.org >> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list >> >> > > ___ > foundation-list mailing list > foundation-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > > ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 9:41 PM, meg ford wrote: > If we do bids, I might be able to talk the Chicago GNOME community into > applying for a future year. We are in the middle of the US, and have a > major international airport, so it might be a nice option. > > Meg, that sounds like a great idea. I think we have decided on Montreal since we have a volunteeer. You will need to do a venue that will support 35-50 people. sri > Meg > > > On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 11:35 PM, Jared L Jennings < > jaredljenni...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> +1 >> Jared Jennings >> jaredljenni...@gmail.com >> >> On Apr 30, 2013, at 8:27 PM, john palmieri >> wrote: >> >> Just a suggestion, perhaps the next year's location should be bid on and >> announced during the current year's summit like GUADEC is. That would make >> it much easier to plan for budgets, etc. >> >> >> >> ___ >> foundation-list mailing list >> foundation-list@gnome.org >> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list >> >> > > ___ > foundation-list mailing list > foundation-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > > ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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If we do bids, I might be able to talk the Chicago GNOME community into applying for a future year. We are in the middle of the US, and have a major international airport, so it might be a nice option. Meg On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 11:35 PM, Jared L Jennings wrote: > +1 > Jared Jennings > jaredljenni...@gmail.com > > On Apr 30, 2013, at 8:27 PM, john palmieri > wrote: > > Just a suggestion, perhaps the next year's location should be bid on and > announced during the current year's summit like GUADEC is. That would make > it much easier to plan for budgets, etc. > > > > ___ > foundation-list mailing list > foundation-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > > ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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+1 Jared Jennings jaredljenni...@gmail.com On Apr 30, 2013, at 8:27 PM, john palmieri wrote: > Just a suggestion, perhaps the next year's location should be bid on and > announced during the current year's summit like GUADEC is. That would make > it much easier to plan for budgets, etc. ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: > > > > On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 10:21 AM, James wrote: >> >> >> I previously mentioned that I'm based in Montreal, and happy to help >> organize this if people are interested. >> HTH, >> James >> >> > > OK, looks like we have a winner. Do you have a venue that you can research? Sure! I'll look into this. Has GNOME decided on Montreal? If so, maybe someone can get me up to speed on some details, such as capacity and specific dates. I'm happy to help with this, but I'd rather not be the sole organizer. Let me know what is needed! Cheers, James > BTW Columbus Day is "Thanksgiving" in Canada right? > ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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Just a suggestion, perhaps the next year's location should be bid on and announced during the current year's summit like GUADEC is. That would make it much easier to plan for budgets, etc. -- J5 On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 8:58 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: > > > > On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Andrew Cowie < > and...@operationaldynamics.com> wrote: > >> On Tue, 2013-04-30 at 10:47 -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: >> >> > BTW Columbus Day is "Thanksgiving" in Canada right? >> >> No, it's Thanksgiving, without the quotation marks. :) We've always >> wondered why the Americans insist on having it on the wrong day. The end >> of November? The snow is already flying then! >> >> > Don't look to me, these guys thought the indians were us! ;) > > sri > > >> AfC >> Sydney >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> foundation-list mailing list >> foundation-list@gnome.org >> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list >> >> > > ___ > foundation-list mailing list > foundation-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > > ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Andrew Cowie < and...@operationaldynamics.com> wrote: > On Tue, 2013-04-30 at 10:47 -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: > > > BTW Columbus Day is "Thanksgiving" in Canada right? > > No, it's Thanksgiving, without the quotation marks. :) We've always > wondered why the Americans insist on having it on the wrong day. The end > of November? The snow is already flying then! > > Don't look to me, these guys thought the indians were us! ;) sri > AfC > Sydney > > > > ___ > foundation-list mailing list > foundation-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > > ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote: > > > It's not that we don't like Portland. Hell, if Portlandia is any > indication, Portland might be the best city EVER. :) Even the > inconvenience of people having to take an extra and/or longer flight, > while not great, is not a show-stopper. To me the show-stopper is > unbudgeted travel expenses with less than a year's notice. > > We are a quirky bunch of people. :-) We're almost like Bostonians except maybe a little more weirder. > It is my understanding that quite a few usual "Boston Summit" attendees > are within reasonable driving distance of Boston. And Montreal, while a > longer drive, is not undoable for this crowd. But at least in the case > of my company, the 2013 travel budget was set at the end of 2012. And at > the end of 2012, we had no indication that I would have to fly > cross-country from Southern New Hampshire to "Boston." ;) ;) > > I've made that drive, it's a good 5-6 hours I believe. But a really nice one! Vermont rocks! Whether or not we want to rotate "Boston" Summit around the country is > something for the Foundation membership to decide. If they decide that, > great. But let's then ensure we have the location selected in time for > companies and the Foundation to include it in their travel budgets. > > I have no problems honestly. I'm happy to let someone else do it. I'll plan something else at some other time.. although the timing for me was perfect since I'll be on vacation during most of the planning stages. But one day we will have a gnome related conference on the west coast. Count on it! sri Take care. > --joanie > ___ > foundation-list mailing list > foundation-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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On Tue, 2013-04-30 at 10:47 -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: > BTW Columbus Day is "Thanksgiving" in Canada right? No, it's Thanksgiving, without the quotation marks. :) We've always wondered why the Americans insist on having it on the wrong day. The end of November? The snow is already flying then! AfC Sydney signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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On 04/30/2013 01:11 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: > On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Piñeiro wrote: > >> On 04/30/2013 06:22 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: >>> Although working for the venue is appreciated, imho, is irrelevant. If >> that extra hop means that suddenly every one (or almost every one) >> interested on assist the summit would need to ask for help (or >> extra-help) to the travel committee in order to assist, it doesn't >> matter if we got a venue for free. It would be still really more >> expensive, and more trip-exhausting. >> >> > Hi Alejandro, > > If most people feel this way then I have no problem letting this go. > Hopefully, we can find someone to do this in Boston or Montreal. Were it up to me, that would be my recommendation. It's not that we don't like Portland. Hell, if Portlandia is any indication, Portland might be the best city EVER. :) Even the inconvenience of people having to take an extra and/or longer flight, while not great, is not a show-stopper. To me the show-stopper is unbudgeted travel expenses with less than a year's notice. It is my understanding that quite a few usual "Boston Summit" attendees are within reasonable driving distance of Boston. And Montreal, while a longer drive, is not undoable for this crowd. But at least in the case of my company, the 2013 travel budget was set at the end of 2012. And at the end of 2012, we had no indication that I would have to fly cross-country from Southern New Hampshire to "Boston." ;) ;) Whether or not we want to rotate "Boston" Summit around the country is something for the Foundation membership to decide. If they decide that, great. But let's then ensure we have the location selected in time for companies and the Foundation to include it in their travel budgets. Take care. --joanie ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 2:21 AM, James wrote: > On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Karen Sandler wrote: >> On Fri, April 26, 2013 4:51 am, Alberto Ruiz wrote: >>> I'd love to visit Portland! >>> >>> However we might want to take into account that doing it in the west >>> coast will have an impact on the travel budget since a lot of people >>> live in Europe and the east coast. >> >> I know Sri is working hard to look into organizing this in Portland, but I >> think there are a number of obstacles. If Portland isn't the right choice >> for this year, are there folks who want to organize in Montreal? > > I previously mentioned that I'm based in Montreal, and happy to help > organize this if people are interested. > HTH, > James I don't know if I'll be in Montreal around then, but just a suggestion, if you do organize it in Montreal, it would be great to have it at Concordia, McGill, or at UQAM, the Universite de Montreal location is so... far from everything ;-) Also, I think there are decently priced hotels on Rene-Levesque west, which is nice and close to Concordia, and also close to the pubs... Cheers, -Tristan > >> >> karen >> >> ___ >> foundation-list mailing list >> foundation-list@gnome.org >> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > ___ > foundation-list mailing list > foundation-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 10:21 AM, James wrote: > > I previously mentioned that I'm based in Montreal, and happy to help > organize this if people are interested. > HTH, > James > > > OK, looks like we have a winner. Do you have a venue that you can research? BTW Columbus Day is "Thanksgiving" in Canada right? ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Karen Sandler wrote: > On Fri, April 26, 2013 4:51 am, Alberto Ruiz wrote: >> I'd love to visit Portland! >> >> However we might want to take into account that doing it in the west >> coast will have an impact on the travel budget since a lot of people >> live in Europe and the east coast. > > I know Sri is working hard to look into organizing this in Portland, but I > think there are a number of obstacles. If Portland isn't the right choice > for this year, are there folks who want to organize in Montreal? I previously mentioned that I'm based in Montreal, and happy to help organize this if people are interested. HTH, James > > karen > > ___ > foundation-list mailing list > foundation-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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On Tue, 2013-04-30 at 19:03 +0200, Piñeiro wrote: > [...] > What is the point of that long previous paragraph? Sincerely, for me, > taking into account that we are talking about a small event, just > starting to move to a different city for the sake of moving is an overkill. AFAIU, the idea of doing it in different city is because of last incident in Boston. It is not for the sake of moving it. > And as Benjamin opened the can of "Europe is far far away from > Portland", this is even worse for people living in small cities. In my > case I assisted the Boston summit twice (2009, 2012). And it was a > Coruña-Madrid-Boston. In the hypothetical case of repeating this year, > that extra "hop" would mean Coruña-Madrid-Amsterdam-Portland or > Coruña-Madrid-Seattle-Boston. > > > > > But I'm under no illusion that for some that this might be harder to > > get to. I'm still working the venue and hopefully I'll have something > > by next week. > > Although working for the venue is appreciated, imho, is irrelevant. It is relevant. Without venue or people organizing the event there is no event. -- Germán Poo-Caamaño http://calcifer.org/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Piñeiro wrote: > On 04/30/2013 06:22 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: > >Although working for the venue is appreciated, imho, is irrelevant. If > that extra hop means that suddenly every one (or almost every one) > interested on assist the summit would need to ask for help (or > extra-help) to the travel committee in order to assist, it doesn't > matter if we got a venue for free. It would be still really more > expensive, and more trip-exhausting. > > Hi Alejandro, If most people feel this way then I have no problem letting this go. Hopefully, we can find someone to do this in Boston or Montreal. sri > BR > > -- > Alejandro Piñeiro Iglesias > > ___ > foundation-list mailing list > foundation-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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On 04/30/2013 06:22 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 6:43 AM, Benjamin Otte <mailto:o...@gnome.org>> wrote: > > Sriram Ramkrishna ramkrishna.me <http://ramkrishna.me>> > writes: > > > I agree that is a point worth considering. Portland is a second > tier city > and sometimes takes a extra hop because there are not a lot direct > flights > especially from Europe. > > That's a nice way to say "Only Amsterdam offers a direct flight". > Which > means everyone from Europe will have to pay the big fee for that > flight > (~$500 more) or transfer inside the US. Yay. > > > I'm not sure if it will be that much.. but usually a lot of people fly > into Seattle or San Francisco and then take the flight to Portland. > Even Vancouver works. The flights from Seattle to PDX is only an hour > or less. But in any case, that is still one extra flight on the trip. Again, although several people already mentioned it. One of the main reasons to have a Boston Summit was their convenience. There was a really convenient place on a really good connected city. (The only unconvenient thing is the hotel). So people started to assist the summit for pure convenience. That is also one of the reasons it was always a small event, and in several aspects, more informal. We already have the big event where we choose a different venue every year, the GUADEC. "Boston" Summit was never (AFAIK) intended to be "another GNOME big event". As others already mentioned (II), just until some years ago people started to ask help to the travel committee in order to assist, and was in really specific cases. What is the point of that long previous paragraph? Sincerely, for me, taking into account that we are talking about a small event, just starting to move to a different city for the sake of moving is an overkill. And as Benjamin opened the can of "Europe is far far away from Portland", this is even worse for people living in small cities. In my case I assisted the Boston summit twice (2009, 2012). And it was a Coruña-Madrid-Boston. In the hypothetical case of repeating this year, that extra "hop" would mean Coruña-Madrid-Amsterdam-Portland or Coruña-Madrid-Seattle-Boston. > > But I'm under no illusion that for some that this might be harder to > get to. I'm still working the venue and hopefully I'll have something > by next week. Although working for the venue is appreciated, imho, is irrelevant. If that extra hop means that suddenly every one (or almost every one) interested on assist the summit would need to ask for help (or extra-help) to the travel committee in order to assist, it doesn't matter if we got a venue for free. It would be still really more expensive, and more trip-exhausting. BR -- Alejandro Piñeiro Iglesias ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 6:43 AM, Benjamin Otte wrote: > Sriram Ramkrishna ramkrishna.me> writes: > > > I agree that is a point worth considering. Portland is a second tier > city > and sometimes takes a extra hop because there are not a lot direct flights > especially from Europe. > > That's a nice way to say "Only Amsterdam offers a direct flight". Which > means everyone from Europe will have to pay the big fee for that flight > (~$500 more) or transfer inside the US. Yay. > > I'm not sure if it will be that much.. but usually a lot of people fly into Seattle or San Francisco and then take the flight to Portland. Even Vancouver works. The flights from Seattle to PDX is only an hour or less. But I'm under no illusion that for some that this might be harder to get to. I'm still working the venue and hopefully I'll have something by next week. sri > Benjamin > > ___ > foundation-list mailing list > foundation-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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On Fri, April 26, 2013 4:51 am, Alberto Ruiz wrote: > I'd love to visit Portland! > > However we might want to take into account that doing it in the west > coast will have an impact on the travel budget since a lot of people > live in Europe and the east coast. I know Sri is working hard to look into organizing this in Portland, but I think there are a number of obstacles. If Portland isn't the right choice for this year, are there folks who want to organize in Montreal? karen ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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On Apr 27, 2013, at 8:25 AM, Luc Pionchon wrote: > > On 27 April 2013 17:08, Stormy Peters wrote: > Continuously telling some of our biggest fans that they are wrong all the > time is not the way to grow our project. > > As a soft note, I did not read Richard's message this way. It always strikes me as curious that Mr. Stallman seems to be the only participant in the list who requires third-party exegesis in order to be properly understood. Why is that? ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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Sriram Ramkrishna ramkrishna.me> writes: > I agree that is a point worth considering. Portland is a second tier city and sometimes takes a extra hop because there are not a lot direct flights especially from Europe. That's a nice way to say "Only Amsterdam offers a direct flight". Which means everyone from Europe will have to pay the big fee for that flight (~$500 more) or transfer inside the US. Yay. Benjamin ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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They are open source based startups. They call themselves open source projects. They probably do that because they support the open source philosophy. By saying "open source" they encourage others to think that way too. Conversely, the way to encourage others to think about free/libre software and freedom is by saying "free software". Others will say what they wish; we should say "free" and "libre". If people from open source software projects want to join us at a GNOME event to learn more about GNOME, we should welcome them. Of course. We welcome those people's participation, whether it be using GNOME, learning about GNOME, promoting GNOME, or contributing to GNOME. We accept support from those companies too. But we do have to take care to avoid a possible way things can go wrong: that they might influence the discussion around GNOME such that GNOME too seems to be aligned with "open source". It is easy to avoid this; it just requires that we pay attention. Thus, I remind people to pay attention. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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OK folks, let's keep moving otherwise we'll just rathole into a topic that we don't need to get into. Richard has made his point. Let's move on. On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Luc Pionchon wrote: > On 27 April 2013 19:15, Lefty wrote: > >> On Apr 27, 2013, at 8:25 AM, Luc Pionchon wrote: >> >> On 27 April 2013 17:08, Stormy Peters wrote: >> >> Continuously telling some of our biggest fans that they are wrong all >>> the time is not the way to grow our project. >>> >> >> As a soft note, I did not read Richard's message this way. >> >> >> >> It always strikes me as curious that Mr. Stallman seems to be the only >> participant in the list who requires third-party exegesis in order to be >> properly understood. >> > > That's not quite true. As an example, I would require one. Unfortunately > I don't have any. > > > > >> Why is that? >> >> >> > > ___ > foundation-list mailing list > foundation-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > > ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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On 27 April 2013 19:15, Lefty wrote: > On Apr 27, 2013, at 8:25 AM, Luc Pionchon wrote: > > On 27 April 2013 17:08, Stormy Peters wrote: > > Continuously telling some of our biggest fans that they are wrong all >> the time is not the way to grow our project. >> > > As a soft note, I did not read Richard's message this way. > > > > It always strikes me as curious that Mr. Stallman seems to be the only > participant in the list who requires third-party exegesis in order to be > properly understood. > That's not quite true. As an example, I would require one. Unfortunately I don't have any. > Why is that? > > > ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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On 27 April 2013 17:08, Stormy Peters wrote: > Hi Richard, > > They are open source based startups. They call themselves open source > projects. I think we should refer to them as open source projects > regardless of what we call GNOME. > > If people from open source software projects want to join us at a GNOME > event to learn more about GNOME, we should welcome them. > > Continuously telling some of our biggest fans that they are wrong all the > time is not the way to grow our project. > As a soft note, I did not read Richard's message this way. As I understood, he expressed that, they are OSS start-ups in Portland and that's OK, they may support GNOME, and that's good. *Then*, he expressed that, regarding GNOME, let's call it Free/Libre software (because this is what it is), and let's not call it OSS, which is different. I believe you both agree on your two first paragraphs. Kindly, Luc > > Stormy > > > On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 7:46 AM, Richard Stallman wrote: > >> This is true. Portland has a very large presence of many open source >> based >> start ups >> >> We're happy to accept support from those that talk about "open >> source", but let's take care to present GNOME as a free/libre software >> project, with the goal of giving users freedom, rather than using the >> term "open source" ourselves. >> >> -- >> Dr Richard Stallman >> President, Free Software Foundation >> 51 Franklin St >> Boston MA 02110 >> USA >> www.fsf.org www.gnu.org >> Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. >> Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call >> >> > > ___ > foundation-list mailing list > foundation-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > > ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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Hi Richard, They are open source based startups. They call themselves open source projects. I think we should refer to them as open source projects regardless of what we call GNOME. If people from open source software projects want to join us at a GNOME event to learn more about GNOME, we should welcome them. Continuously telling some of our biggest fans that they are wrong all the time is not the way to grow our project. Stormy On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 7:46 AM, Richard Stallman wrote: > This is true. Portland has a very large presence of many open source > based > start ups > > We're happy to accept support from those that talk about "open > source", but let's take care to present GNOME as a free/libre software > project, with the goal of giving users freedom, rather than using the > term "open source" ourselves. > > -- > Dr Richard Stallman > President, Free Software Foundation > 51 Franklin St > Boston MA 02110 > USA > www.fsf.org www.gnu.org > Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. > Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call > > ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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This is true. Portland has a very large presence of many open source based start ups We're happy to accept support from those that talk about "open source", but let's take care to present GNOME as a free/libre software project, with the goal of giving users freedom, rather than using the term "open source" ourselves. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Germán Póo-Caamaño wrote: > On Fri, 2013-04-26 at 14:38 -0400, Colin Walters wrote: > > On Fri, 2013-04-26 at 11:31 -0700, Germán Póo-Caamaño wrote: > > > > > > One of the benefits of Boston is that MIT traditionally had lent the > > > venue for free during Columbus Day. > > > > Historically there was also the presence of Novell and Red Hat, among > > others. It's certainly the case that this presence is not as strong > > now. But at least Montreal is drivable from Boston (and that's what > > several of us did in 2011). And hotels are not too expensive there > > (compared to Cambridge). > > [...] > > Maybe because of the same reason, Boston Summit was almost (if not) > zero-cost for the foundation. It has been during the last ~2-3 editions > that the foundation started to sponsor some people to attend. > > yeah, and it's not really a summit without the folks at westford being able to attend. If there are other viable ones then we can look at them. I'm asking my employer whether they have resources to help here as well. The board will have the weigh the advantages and disadvantages with Portland as a venue versus Montreal. I will make some inquiries about venue which I currently have as Portland State. Some of you who have attended the first two Linux Plumbers Conference are familiar with that. it's a perfectly adequate facilitiy that will more than suffice for the summit. sri sri > -- > Germán Poo-Caamaño > http://calcifer.org/ > ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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On Fri, 2013-04-26 at 14:38 -0400, Colin Walters wrote: > On Fri, 2013-04-26 at 11:31 -0700, Germán Póo-Caamaño wrote: > > > > One of the benefits of Boston is that MIT traditionally had lent the > > venue for free during Columbus Day. > > Historically there was also the presence of Novell and Red Hat, among > others. It's certainly the case that this presence is not as strong > now. But at least Montreal is drivable from Boston (and that's what > several of us did in 2011). And hotels are not too expensive there > (compared to Cambridge). > [...] Maybe because of the same reason, Boston Summit was almost (if not) zero-cost for the foundation. It has been during the last ~2-3 editions that the foundation started to sponsor some people to attend. -- Germán Poo-Caamaño http://calcifer.org/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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On Fri, 2013-04-26 at 11:31 -0700, Germán Póo-Caamaño wrote: > > One of the benefits of Boston is that MIT traditionally had lent the > venue for free during Columbus Day. Historically there was also the presence of Novell and Red Hat, among others. It's certainly the case that this presence is not as strong now. But at least Montreal is drivable from Boston (and that's what several of us did in 2011). And hotels are not too expensive there (compared to Cambridge). Portland is kind of the opposite side of the country =) I love it and have friends there, but it would certainly impact the ability of at least the engineers Red Hat has in Boston (Westford) to attend, due to airfare at least. ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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On Fri, 2013-04-26 at 11:33 -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: > I can ask if Portland state will do something similar. I'ts over the > columbus day weekend then? > Yep. -- Germán Poo-Caamaño http://calcifer.org/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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I can ask if Portland state will do something similar. I'ts over the columbus day weekend then? On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Germán Póo-Caamaño wrote: > On Fri, 2013-04-26 at 11:21 -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Stormy Peters >wrote: > > > > > In addition to GNOME folks willing to host (yeah, Sri!) there is also a > > > large, active open source community in Portland so we might draw new > people > > > or people that haven't been able to travel to Europe or Boston. > > > > > > > > This is true. Portland has a very large presence of many open source > based > > start ups as well as established companies like Intel and IBM who have > open > > source teams. Intel for instance has all their Xorg hackers here. We > have > > some Red Hatters, people who work on filesystems, and many kernel folks. > > > > So you'll have a large community to interact with. I'm well known in the > > Portland open source community as I manage our "beerings". In fact it > was > > from the beerings that Linux Plumbers Conference was born. > > > > I also have access to an events coordinator as well as my old plumbers > team > > to ask for advice. I dont know mucha bout the logistics - how many > people > > generally come? > > Boston Summit is between hackfest and unconference. It is about 35-50 > people. > > One of the benefits of Boston is that MIT traditionally had lent the > venue for free during Columbus Day. > > You can get an idea from the old wiki pages: > > https://live.gnome.org/Boston2012 > https://live.gnome.org/Boston2012/Participants > https://live.gnome.org/Montreal2011/Participants > https://live.gnome.org/Boston2010/Participants > > -- > Germán Poo-Caamaño > http://calcifer.org/ > ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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On Fri, 2013-04-26 at 11:21 -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Stormy Peters > wrote: > > > In addition to GNOME folks willing to host (yeah, Sri!) there is also a > > large, active open source community in Portland so we might draw new people > > or people that haven't been able to travel to Europe or Boston. > > > > > This is true. Portland has a very large presence of many open source based > start ups as well as established companies like Intel and IBM who have open > source teams. Intel for instance has all their Xorg hackers here. We have > some Red Hatters, people who work on filesystems, and many kernel folks. > > So you'll have a large community to interact with. I'm well known in the > Portland open source community as I manage our "beerings". In fact it was > from the beerings that Linux Plumbers Conference was born. > > I also have access to an events coordinator as well as my old plumbers team > to ask for advice. I dont know mucha bout the logistics - how many people > generally come? Boston Summit is between hackfest and unconference. It is about 35-50 people. One of the benefits of Boston is that MIT traditionally had lent the venue for free during Columbus Day. You can get an idea from the old wiki pages: https://live.gnome.org/Boston2012 https://live.gnome.org/Boston2012/Participants https://live.gnome.org/Montreal2011/Participants https://live.gnome.org/Boston2010/Participants -- Germán Poo-Caamaño http://calcifer.org/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Stormy Peters wrote: > In addition to GNOME folks willing to host (yeah, Sri!) there is also a > large, active open source community in Portland so we might draw new people > or people that haven't been able to travel to Europe or Boston. > > This is true. Portland has a very large presence of many open source based start ups as well as established companies like Intel and IBM who have open source teams. Intel for instance has all their Xorg hackers here. We have some Red Hatters, people who work on filesystems, and many kernel folks. So you'll have a large community to interact with. I'm well known in the Portland open source community as I manage our "beerings". In fact it was from the beerings that Linux Plumbers Conference was born. I also have access to an events coordinator as well as my old plumbers team to ask for advice. I dont know mucha bout the logistics - how many people generally come? So I'm a bit of a neophyte on planning but I do have 2 months off from August to the beginning of September of which I can spend time planning. sri Stormy > > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 11:15 AM, meg ford wrote: > >> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Jared L Jennings < >> jaredljenni...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I don't know if i can go, but I think this is a very valid point. >>> While, Portland, the city sounds great and I think would be awesome. >>> Chicago or Dallas, would likely be cheaper flight costs. >>> >> >> True, but there are only three established GNOME contributors in Chicago, >> and none of us work for companies that would sponsor space/time for >> planning, afaik. >> >> Meg >> >> Even Boston is is a second tier for many of us in the USA. >>> >>> Jared Jennings >>> jaredljenni...@gmail.com >>> >>> On Apr 26, 2013, at 10:22 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna >>> wrote: >>> >>> I agree that is a point worth considering. Portland is a second tier >>> city and sometimes takes a extra hop because there are not a lot direct >>> flights especially from Europe. >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> foundation-list mailing list >>> foundation-list@gnome.org >>> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list >>> >>> >> >> ___ >> foundation-list mailing list >> foundation-list@gnome.org >> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list >> >> > > ___ > foundation-list mailing list > foundation-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > > ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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In addition to GNOME folks willing to host (yeah, Sri!) there is also a large, active open source community in Portland so we might draw new people or people that haven't been able to travel to Europe or Boston. Stormy On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 11:15 AM, meg ford wrote: > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Jared L Jennings < > jaredljenni...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I don't know if i can go, but I think this is a very valid point. >> While, Portland, the city sounds great and I think would be awesome. >> Chicago or Dallas, would likely be cheaper flight costs. >> > > True, but there are only three established GNOME contributors in Chicago, > and none of us work for companies that would sponsor space/time for > planning, afaik. > > Meg > > Even Boston is is a second tier for many of us in the USA. >> >> Jared Jennings >> jaredljenni...@gmail.com >> >> On Apr 26, 2013, at 10:22 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna >> wrote: >> >> I agree that is a point worth considering. Portland is a second tier >> city and sometimes takes a extra hop because there are not a lot direct >> flights especially from Europe. >> >> >> >> ___ >> foundation-list mailing list >> foundation-list@gnome.org >> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list >> >> > > ___ > foundation-list mailing list > foundation-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > > ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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Valid point. A quick check and Kansas City to Portland is 450$. About the same as to Boston. Probably should choose more on the features of the city and what else is unique as for venues than flights ;) Jared Jennings jaredljenni...@gmail.com On Apr 26, 2013, at 12:15 PM, meg ford wrote: > True, but there are only three established GNOME contributors in Chicago, and > none of us work for companies that would sponsor space/time for planning, > afaik. ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Jared L Jennings wrote: > I don't know if i can go, but I think this is a very valid point. > While, Portland, the city sounds great and I think would be awesome. > Chicago or Dallas, would likely be cheaper flight costs. > True, but there are only three established GNOME contributors in Chicago, and none of us work for companies that would sponsor space/time for planning, afaik. Meg Even Boston is is a second tier for many of us in the USA. > > Jared Jennings > jaredljenni...@gmail.com > > On Apr 26, 2013, at 10:22 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: > > I agree that is a point worth considering. Portland is a second tier city > and sometimes takes a extra hop because there are not a lot direct flights > especially from Europe. > > > > ___ > foundation-list mailing list > foundation-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > > ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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I don't know if i can go, but I think this is a very valid point. While, Portland, the city sounds great and I think would be awesome. Chicago or Dallas, would likely be cheaper flight costs. Even Boston is is a second tier for many of us in the USA. Jared Jennings jaredljenni...@gmail.com On Apr 26, 2013, at 10:22 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: > I agree that is a point worth considering. Portland is a second tier city > and sometimes takes a extra hop because there are not a lot direct flights > especially from Europe. ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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On Tue, 2013-04-23 at 13:09 -0400, James wrote: > I'm based in Montreal if I can help out in some way. > It's a beautiful city despite some political issues. Is anyone else from the 2011 Montreal team around who could help organize again there? ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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On Apr 26, 2013 1:51 AM, "Alberto Ruiz" wrote: > > I'd love to visit Portland! > > However we might want to take into account that doing it in the west > coast will have an impact on the travel budget since a lot of people > live in Europe and the east coast. > I agree that is a point worth considering. Portland is a second tier city and sometimes takes a extra hop because there are not a lot direct flights especially from Europe. Sri > 2013/4/26 Emily Gonyer : > > > > Portland would be awesome in my book! :) > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 10:15 PM, meg ford wrote: > >> > >> +1 for Portland. > >> > >> Meg Ford > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 9:12 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> Yes, I think I can take care of logistics if people are interested. If > >>> people want to take my suggestion seriously I will make a bid. > >>> > >>> There are a lot of places that provide "hacker areas" in Portland. > >>> Definitely downtown portland would be the right place for this. Some place > >>> centralized where we can also enjoy the city. > >>> > >>> sri > >>> > >>> > >>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Germán Póo-Caamaño > >>> wrote: > > On Tue, 2013-04-23 at 13:43 -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: > > Portland! It's just like Boston, but on the other side of the coast! > > :D > > People whine a lot there. It could either an opportunity or a problem. > > Where would it be? Would you take care of the logistic there? > > -- > Germán Poo-Caamaño > http://calcifer.org/ > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> foundation-list mailing list > >>> foundation-list@gnome.org > >>> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > >>> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> foundation-list mailing list > >> foundation-list@gnome.org > >> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power > > and magic in it. - Goethe > > > > Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and > > those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss > > > > Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts > > can be counted. - Albert Einstein > > > > ___ > > foundation-list mailing list > > foundation-list@gnome.org > > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > > > > > > -- > Cheers, > Alberto Ruiz > ___ > foundation-list mailing list > foundation-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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I'd love to visit Portland! However we might want to take into account that doing it in the west coast will have an impact on the travel budget since a lot of people live in Europe and the east coast. 2013/4/26 Emily Gonyer : > > Portland would be awesome in my book! :) > > > On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 10:15 PM, meg ford wrote: >> >> +1 for Portland. >> >> Meg Ford >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 9:12 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna >> wrote: >>> >>> Yes, I think I can take care of logistics if people are interested. If >>> people want to take my suggestion seriously I will make a bid. >>> >>> There are a lot of places that provide "hacker areas" in Portland. >>> Definitely downtown portland would be the right place for this. Some place >>> centralized where we can also enjoy the city. >>> >>> sri >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Germán Póo-Caamaño >>> wrote: On Tue, 2013-04-23 at 13:43 -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: > Portland! It's just like Boston, but on the other side of the coast! > :D People whine a lot there. It could either an opportunity or a problem. Where would it be? Would you take care of the logistic there? -- Germán Poo-Caamaño http://calcifer.org/ >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> foundation-list mailing list >>> foundation-list@gnome.org >>> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list >>> >> >> >> ___ >> foundation-list mailing list >> foundation-list@gnome.org >> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list >> > > > > -- > Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power > and magic in it. - Goethe > > Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and > those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss > > Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts > can be counted. - Albert Einstein > > ___ > foundation-list mailing list > foundation-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > -- Cheers, Alberto Ruiz ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: "Boston" Summit 2013?
Portland would be awesome in my book! :) On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 10:15 PM, meg ford wrote: > +1 for Portland. > > Meg Ford > > > On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 9:12 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: > >> Yes, I think I can take care of logistics if people are interested. If >> people want to take my suggestion seriously I will make a bid. >> >> There are a lot of places that provide "hacker areas" in Portland. >> Definitely downtown portland would be the right place for this. Some place >> centralized where we can also enjoy the city. >> >> sri >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Germán Póo-Caamaño wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 2013-04-23 at 13:43 -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: >>> > Portland! It's just like Boston, but on the other side of the coast! >>> :D >>> >>> People whine a lot there. It could either an opportunity or a problem. >>> >>> Where would it be? Would you take care of the logistic there? >>> >>> -- >>> Germán Poo-Caamaño >>> http://calcifer.org/ >>> >> >> >> ___ >> foundation-list mailing list >> foundation-list@gnome.org >> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list >> >> > > ___ > foundation-list mailing list > foundation-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > > -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: "Boston" Summit 2013?
+1 for Portland. Meg Ford On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 9:12 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: > Yes, I think I can take care of logistics if people are interested. If > people want to take my suggestion seriously I will make a bid. > > There are a lot of places that provide "hacker areas" in Portland. > Definitely downtown portland would be the right place for this. Some place > centralized where we can also enjoy the city. > > sri > > > On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Germán Póo-Caamaño wrote: > >> On Tue, 2013-04-23 at 13:43 -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: >> > Portland! It's just like Boston, but on the other side of the coast! :D >> >> People whine a lot there. It could either an opportunity or a problem. >> >> Where would it be? Would you take care of the logistic there? >> >> -- >> Germán Poo-Caamaño >> http://calcifer.org/ >> > > > ___ > foundation-list mailing list > foundation-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > > ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: "Boston" Summit 2013?
Yes, I think I can take care of logistics if people are interested. If people want to take my suggestion seriously I will make a bid. There are a lot of places that provide "hacker areas" in Portland. Definitely downtown portland would be the right place for this. Some place centralized where we can also enjoy the city. sri On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Germán Póo-Caamaño wrote: > On Tue, 2013-04-23 at 13:43 -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: > > Portland! It's just like Boston, but on the other side of the coast! :D > > People whine a lot there. It could either an opportunity or a problem. > > Where would it be? Would you take care of the logistic there? > > -- > Germán Poo-Caamaño > http://calcifer.org/ > ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: "Boston" Summit 2013?
On Tue, 2013-04-23 at 13:43 -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: > Portland! It's just like Boston, but on the other side of the coast! :D People whine a lot there. It could either an opportunity or a problem. Where would it be? Would you take care of the logistic there? -- Germán Poo-Caamaño http://calcifer.org/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: "Boston" Summit 2013?
Thanks for bringing this up, Joanie. The sooner we decide on a location, the better, since some of us might need to get a visa for attending the event. At least in Brazil, they are not always fast to get (for either the US or Canada). - Fabiana On 04/23/2013 05:43 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: Portland! It's just like Boston, but on the other side of the coast! :D On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Joanmarie Diggs <mailto:jdi...@igalia.com>> wrote: Hey all. We should probably be thinking about where the "Boston" Summit will be this year. :) Do we want to have another Montreal Summit? (And if so, do we have someone to make those arrangements?) Thanks and take care. --joanie ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org <mailto:foundation-list@gnome.org> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: "Boston" Summit 2013?
Portland! It's just like Boston, but on the other side of the coast! :D On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote: > Hey all. > > We should probably be thinking about where the "Boston" Summit will be > this year. :) Do we want to have another Montreal Summit? (And if so, do > we have someone to make those arrangements?) > > Thanks and take care. > --joanie > ___ > foundation-list mailing list > foundation-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: "Boston" Summit 2013?
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote: > Hey all. > > We should probably be thinking about where the "Boston" Summit will be > this year. :) Do we want to have another Montreal Summit? (And if so, do > we have someone to make those arrangements?) I'm based in Montreal if I can help out in some way. It's a beautiful city despite some political issues. Let me know, James > > Thanks and take care. > --joanie > ___ > foundation-announce mailing list > foundation-annou...@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-announce ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
"Boston" Summit 2013?
Hey all. We should probably be thinking about where the "Boston" Summit will be this year. :) Do we want to have another Montreal Summit? (And if so, do we have someone to make those arrangements?) Thanks and take care. --joanie ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Boston Summit 2012
Hi, At GUADEC, it was announced that the Boston Summit 2012 is on! More information is available here: https://live.gnome.org/Boston2012 Please do fill in the attendance list so we can somewhat accurately gauge required refreshment quantity, etc. There's a lot of topics to discuss, and I hope we can continue some of the momentum from the awesome GUADEC that just finished! ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Boston Summit?
On 2012-04-27 17:17, Michael Hill wrote: Hi Karen, On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 4:25 PM, Karen Sandler wrote: Are there teams (or individuals, since this is a less formal event) in Toronto, Boston and/or Montreal that are willing to take on the burden of trying to organize this? I don't want to speak for Ryan, but I'm available to be part of any Toronto team. I know of a couple of developers, a couple of docs people and a GSoC intern. (Okay, the developers are Behdad and Ryan.) Lucas Rocha posted a photo of the Mozilla space on G+ today. (Ignore his comment about snow, it's sunny now. Please also disregard what Shaun says about snowstorms and flights, that was unseasonable. Snow on Thanksgiving weekend is unheard of, or at least fairly rare.) I'd like to get to Boston sometime, so if it's in Toronto this year, and I invite everyone to my folks' place for Thanksgiving dinner, I'm pretty sure I'll be able to go next year. I don't see any further discussion from this on the Boston/Montreal/Toronto Summit! Should we set up a (somewhat informal) bid process? I'm reminded of this, as I just got the confirmation on the space in Boston for Columbus Day weekend (we don't have to pay any fees, thanks to MIT and to Walter Bender). If there's a push to have this elsewhere, we should at least free up the space so others can use it. karen ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Boston Summit?
On Sat, 2012-04-28 at 13:44 -0500, meg ford wrote: > On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Marina Zhurakhinskaya > wrote: > > > I'm also considering going to Grace Hopper, especially if the panel > > proposal I'm a part of gets accepted. The speaker notifications for Grace > > Hopper will happen May 17th. I know there might be just a few of us for > > whom it will matter, but if Joanie was brave enough to ask, I'd like to > > second her interest in considering a different weekend because of this > > overlap. After all, if we do go to Grace Hopper, all we'll be talking to > > people and presenting about will be GNOME, and it would be disappointing to > > be missing an important GNOME conference at the same time. > > > > Also GSoC mentors summit will be October 19-21, and it would be nice if > > the GNOME Summit (wherever it is :) doesn't conflict with it either. > > > > I agree. I think that it would be good for GNOME to make as strong a > showing as possible at Grace Hopper. I understand that scheduling conflicts > are unavoidable in some cases, but I think that re-scheduling the North > American GNOME Summit should be strongly considered. It would be best for > members of GNOME to not have to choose between the two events. I was really > pleased that Joanie brought this up. A bit of context: The reason the Boston Summit is on Columbus day is because we could get the venue for free, plus being during a long weekend because of no university activities. Last year there were issues to book the venue, so we got alternatively Montréal just on September, which was not free but cheap ($200/day in holidays). However, the date was not changed. This year we booked the MIT in advance to avoid the same issue (as Karen already said). That said, the main driving force is who organize it keeping the costs as low as possible, being the 'who' the hardest part to get involved (it has to be a local person). -- Germán Póo-Caamaño http://people.gnome.org/~gpoo/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Boston Summit?
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Marina Zhurakhinskaya wrote: > I'm also considering going to Grace Hopper, especially if the panel > proposal I'm a part of gets accepted. The speaker notifications for Grace > Hopper will happen May 17th. I know there might be just a few of us for > whom it will matter, but if Joanie was brave enough to ask, I'd like to > second her interest in considering a different weekend because of this > overlap. After all, if we do go to Grace Hopper, all we'll be talking to > people and presenting about will be GNOME, and it would be disappointing to > be missing an important GNOME conference at the same time. > > Also GSoC mentors summit will be October 19-21, and it would be nice if > the GNOME Summit (wherever it is :) doesn't conflict with it either. > > I agree. I think that it would be good for GNOME to make as strong a showing as possible at Grace Hopper. I understand that scheduling conflicts are unavoidable in some cases, but I think that re-scheduling the North American GNOME Summit should be strongly considered. It would be best for members of GNOME to not have to choose between the two events. I was really pleased that Joanie brought this up. Meg - Original Message - > From: "Joanmarie Diggs" > To: foundation-list@gnome.org > Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 7:30:19 AM > Subject: Boston Summit? > > Hey guys. > > Looking at my fall calendar I noticed that the Boston Summit* and Grace > Hopper overlap, the latter being 3-6 October and Columbus Day weekend > being 6-8 October. Also, as I understand it, there will be a FLOSS day > associated with Grace Hopper taking place on 7 October. My initial > reaction was to just forget about Boston Summit. But then I remembered > the lesson from last year: Traditions can be broken. ;) ;) > > So I realize it's still quite early, but are we planning on having > the Boston Summit in Boston and over Columbus Day weekend? > > Take care. > --joanie > > * Assuming we continue the Columbus Day tradition > ___ > foundation-list mailing list > foundation-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > ___ > foundation-list mailing list > foundation-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > > ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Boston Summit?
I'm also considering going to Grace Hopper, especially if the panel proposal I'm a part of gets accepted. The speaker notifications for Grace Hopper will happen May 17th. I know there might be just a few of us for whom it will matter, but if Joanie was brave enough to ask, I'd like to second her interest in considering a different weekend because of this overlap. After all, if we do go to Grace Hopper, all we'll be talking to people and presenting about will be GNOME, and it would be disappointing to be missing an important GNOME conference at the same time. Also GSoC mentors summit will be October 19-21, and it would be nice if the GNOME Summit (wherever it is :) doesn't conflict with it either. Thanks, Marina - Original Message - From: "Joanmarie Diggs" To: foundation-list@gnome.org Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 7:30:19 AM Subject: Boston Summit? Hey guys. Looking at my fall calendar I noticed that the Boston Summit* and Grace Hopper overlap, the latter being 3-6 October and Columbus Day weekend being 6-8 October. Also, as I understand it, there will be a FLOSS day associated with Grace Hopper taking place on 7 October. My initial reaction was to just forget about Boston Summit. But then I remembered the lesson from last year: Traditions can be broken. ;) ;) So I realize it's still quite early, but are we planning on having the Boston Summit in Boston and over Columbus Day weekend? Take care. --joanie * Assuming we continue the Columbus Day tradition ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Boston Summit?
Hi Karen, On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 4:25 PM, Karen Sandler wrote: > Are there teams (or individuals, since this is a less formal event) > in Toronto, Boston and/or Montreal that are willing to take on the > burden of trying to organize this? I don't want to speak for Ryan, but I'm available to be part of any Toronto team. I know of a couple of developers, a couple of docs people and a GSoC intern. (Okay, the developers are Behdad and Ryan.) Lucas Rocha posted a photo of the Mozilla space on G+ today. (Ignore his comment about snow, it's sunny now. Please also disregard what Shaun says about snowstorms and flights, that was unseasonable. Snow on Thanksgiving weekend is unheard of, or at least fairly rare.) I'd like to get to Boston sometime, so if it's in Toronto this year, and I invite everyone to my folks' place for Thanksgiving dinner, I'm pretty sure I'll be able to go next year. Mike ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Boston Summit?
On Fri, April 27, 2012 2:47 pm, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: > On 04/27/2012 02:18 PM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote: >> On 04/27/2012 12:25 PM, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: >> >>> I was thinking, size permitting, we may even be able to do at Mozilla >>> offices? >> >> What were you thinking about the date? Is Columbus Day weekend ideal, >> inconvenient, or irrelevant? > > Eventually that's the board's call. Personally, I can help for any time > before mid October, but late October is Unicode Conference time for me. Columbus Day weekend has always been a convenient time in the past because it's a long weekend, and typically schools don't have a lot going on so it's easier to get space. As we discovered last year, though, when we moved locations, traditions can be broken for good reason. To avoid what happened last year, I went ahead and got a hold on space at MIT for that weekend (with amazing help from Walter Bender!!), so we have that space if we want it on Columbus Day weekend. Ryan tells me that there's also a possible push to have the event in Montreal again. I think we should probably have it wherever there is a solid push to organize the event, but if we've got 3 different places that are interested in hosting, I think we should probably do at least a quick bid process as we do for other events. Do we have folks motivated in these three places to warrant this? Are there teams (or individuals, since this is a less formal event) in Toronto, Boston and/or Montreal that are willing to take on the burden of trying to organize this? Boston does have a small advantage so far in that there's already reserved space for no charge :) I'm excited that there's enthusiasm for a North American summit! karen ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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On 04/27/2012 02:18 PM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote: > On 04/27/2012 12:25 PM, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: > >> I was thinking, size permitting, we may even be able to do at Mozilla >> offices? > > What were you thinking about the date? Is Columbus Day weekend ideal, > inconvenient, or irrelevant? Eventually that's the board's call. Personally, I can help for any time before mid October, but late October is Unicode Conference time for me. behdad > --joanie ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Boston Summit?
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote: > What were you thinking about the date? Is Columbus Day weekend ideal, > inconvenient, or irrelevant? When the question came up in Montreal last year, a key ingredient was the long weekend (same Monday, different holiday here), so ideal. The issue for some (admittedly very few) Canadians travelling to another city is the lasting resentments that might be caused by missing the family Thanksgiving Dinner. :-) Mike ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Boston Summit?
On 04/27/2012 12:25 PM, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: > I was thinking, size permitting, we may even be able to do at Mozilla offices? What were you thinking about the date? Is Columbus Day weekend ideal, inconvenient, or irrelevant? --joanie ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Boston Summit?
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: > I was thinking, size permitting, we may even be able to do at Mozilla offices? > Other than that, yes, there's university space. York University is > definitely workable, thanks to Chris Tyler. There's been FUDCon's there. But > University of Toronto is possible too, and that's downtown. There's also Ryerson. > behdad > (currently hanging out with Lucas, Chris Lord, JP, and others in the Mozilla > Office) Very cool. Mike ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Boston Summit?
On 04/27/2012 11:49 AM, Andreas Nilsson wrote: > On 04/27/2012 05:35 PM, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: >> On 04/27/2012 07:30 AM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote: >>> So I realize it's still quite early, but are we planning on having >>> the Boston Summit in Boston and over Columbus Day weekend? >> Can we have in Toronto please? > Are there any University locations or such we could make use of in Toronto? > The Montreal one was pretty good and felt like it was a pretty good size for > the bunch of us. I was thinking, size permitting, we may even be able to do at Mozilla offices? Other than that, yes, there's university space. York University is definitely workable, thanks to Chris Tyler. There's been FUDCon's there. But University of Toronto is possible too, and that's downtown. behdad (currently hanging out with Lucas, Chris Lord, JP, and others in the Mozilla Office) > - Andreas ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Boston Summit?
On 04/27/2012 05:35 PM, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: On 04/27/2012 07:30 AM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote: So I realize it's still quite early, but are we planning on having the Boston Summit in Boston and over Columbus Day weekend? Can we have in Toronto please? Are there any University locations or such we could make use of in Toronto? The Montreal one was pretty good and felt like it was a pretty good size for the bunch of us. - Andreas ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Boston Summit?
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: > Can we have in Toronto please? +1 We promise to be hospitable (and here we observe Columbus Day with turkey). Mike ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Boston Summit?
On 04/27/2012 07:30 AM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote: > So I realize it's still quite early, but are we planning on having > the Boston Summit in Boston and over Columbus Day weekend? Can we have in Toronto please? behdad ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Boston Summit?
Hey guys. Looking at my fall calendar I noticed that the Boston Summit* and Grace Hopper overlap, the latter being 3-6 October and Columbus Day weekend being 6-8 October. Also, as I understand it, there will be a FLOSS day associated with Grace Hopper taking place on 7 October. My initial reaction was to just forget about Boston Summit. But then I remembered the lesson from last year: Traditions can be broken. ;) ;) So I realize it's still quite early, but are we planning on having the Boston Summit in Boston and over Columbus Day weekend? Take care. --joanie * Assuming we continue the Columbus Day tradition ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Boston Summit logistics (was Re: Desktop Summit Planning)
Hi Richard, Henry Holtzman at the Media Lab and Walter Bender has helped us in the past. They have work with the registrar's office at http://web.mit.edu/registrar/www/schedules/ though that link seems outdated. This one seems to be the correct one - http://web.mit.edu/registrar/classrooms/reserve/index.html -- John (J5) Palmieri ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Boston Summit logistics (was Re: Desktop Summit Planning)
Is there any chance you can reach the previous MIT contact to ask him who he spoke with about rooms in the Tang Center? That way I won't have to hunt for the right person. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use free telephony http://directory.fsf.org/category/tel/ ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Boston Summit logistics (was Re: Desktop Summit Planning)
Thanks. Now I know enough to raise the issue on Monday. If room booking only starts in March, maybe I can at least find out if it will be allowed. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use free telephony http://directory.fsf.org/category/tel/ ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Boston Summit logistics (was Re: Desktop Summit Planning)
Can we have next one in Toronto please? :D I can run. On 12/16/2011 12:45 PM, john palmieri wrote: > 2011/12/16 Máirín Duffy : >> On Fri, 2011-12-16 at 10:39 -0500, Richard Stallman wrote: >>> Thanks so much for offering to look into this, Richard! I hear that the >>> Stata Center was a better location in the past than the Economics >>> Building >>> if we have the choice... >>> >>> When it was in the Stata Center, which rooms were they? If I get the >>> room numbers, I will know exactly what to ask for. >> >> From what I can tell from the wiki, we were in the Stata center most >> recently in 2005 and haven't been since. >> >> Stata Center rooms: >> - Kirsch Auditorium >> - Room 124 >> - Room 144 >> - Room 154 >> - Hallway between those rooms for a registration + food table >> >> (more details https://live.gnome.org/Boston2005/TheSchedule) >> >> Alternatively, in 2006 we were in the Media Lab: >> - Bartos Theatre >> - Rothschild Room >> - Wiesner Room >> - Room 235 >> - Room 135 >> - Room 483A >> - Room 443A >> - "Cool Hangout Room" >> >> (more details https://live.gnome.org/Boston2006) >> >> In 2008, 2009, & 2010 we were at the MIT Sloan Tang Center / E51 >> Building: >> - E51-315 >> - E51-325 >> - E51-335 >> - E51-345 >> - E51-372 >> - E51-376 >> - Hallway between those rooms for a registration + food table >> >> (more details https://live.gnome.org/Boston2010) >> >> I'm not sure which is the economics building (I guess E51?) >> >> Anyway I hope this list helps. >> >> ~m > > The problem with the Stata Center is it costs money, is harder to book > and the rooms do not hold as much and usually we need an extra room > outside the main hall. The Tang center is usually given to us gratis, > have huge rooms with AV equipment, no AV setup charges and is usually > easy to book during the columbus day weekend. It isn't as sexy as the > Stata Center but it fits our needs much better. Also I have to note > that I think booking for next year doesn't start until February or > March. > > -- > John (J5) Palmieri > ___ > foundation-list mailing list > foundation-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Boston Summit logistics (was Re: Desktop Summit Planning)
2011/12/16 Máirín Duffy : > On Fri, 2011-12-16 at 10:39 -0500, Richard Stallman wrote: >> Thanks so much for offering to look into this, Richard! I hear that the >> Stata Center was a better location in the past than the Economics >> Building >> if we have the choice... >> >> When it was in the Stata Center, which rooms were they? If I get the >> room numbers, I will know exactly what to ask for. > > From what I can tell from the wiki, we were in the Stata center most > recently in 2005 and haven't been since. > > Stata Center rooms: > - Kirsch Auditorium > - Room 124 > - Room 144 > - Room 154 > - Hallway between those rooms for a registration + food table > > (more details https://live.gnome.org/Boston2005/TheSchedule) > > Alternatively, in 2006 we were in the Media Lab: > - Bartos Theatre > - Rothschild Room > - Wiesner Room > - Room 235 > - Room 135 > - Room 483A > - Room 443A > - "Cool Hangout Room" > > (more details https://live.gnome.org/Boston2006) > > In 2008, 2009, & 2010 we were at the MIT Sloan Tang Center / E51 > Building: > - E51-315 > - E51-325 > - E51-335 > - E51-345 > - E51-372 > - E51-376 > - Hallway between those rooms for a registration + food table > > (more details https://live.gnome.org/Boston2010) > > I'm not sure which is the economics building (I guess E51?) > > Anyway I hope this list helps. > > ~m The problem with the Stata Center is it costs money, is harder to book and the rooms do not hold as much and usually we need an extra room outside the main hall. The Tang center is usually given to us gratis, have huge rooms with AV equipment, no AV setup charges and is usually easy to book during the columbus day weekend. It isn't as sexy as the Stata Center but it fits our needs much better. Also I have to note that I think booking for next year doesn't start until February or March. -- John (J5) Palmieri ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Boston Summit logistics (was Re: Desktop Summit Planning)
On Fri, 2011-12-16 at 10:39 -0500, Richard Stallman wrote: > Thanks so much for offering to look into this, Richard! I hear that the > Stata Center was a better location in the past than the Economics Building > if we have the choice... > > When it was in the Stata Center, which rooms were they? If I get the > room numbers, I will know exactly what to ask for. >From what I can tell from the wiki, we were in the Stata center most recently in 2005 and haven't been since. Stata Center rooms: - Kirsch Auditorium - Room 124 - Room 144 - Room 154 - Hallway between those rooms for a registration + food table (more details https://live.gnome.org/Boston2005/TheSchedule) Alternatively, in 2006 we were in the Media Lab: - Bartos Theatre - Rothschild Room - Wiesner Room - Room 235 - Room 135 - Room 483A - Room 443A - "Cool Hangout Room" (more details https://live.gnome.org/Boston2006) In 2008, 2009, & 2010 we were at the MIT Sloan Tang Center / E51 Building: - E51-315 - E51-325 - E51-335 - E51-345 - E51-372 - E51-376 - Hallway between those rooms for a registration + food table (more details https://live.gnome.org/Boston2010) I'm not sure which is the economics building (I guess E51?) Anyway I hope this list helps. ~m ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Boston Summit logistics (was Re: Desktop Summit Planning)
Richard, Le vendredi 16 décembre 2011, à 10:39 -0500, Richard Stallman a écrit : > Thanks so much for offering to look into this, Richard! I hear that the > Stata Center was a better location in the past than the Economics Building > if we have the choice... > > When it was in the Stata Center, which rooms were they? If I get the > room numbers, I will know exactly what to ask for. I never went to a Boston Summit in the Stata Center, but in 2004 and 2005, we had rooms 124 and 144 (according to schedules on the wiki: http://live.gnome.org/Boston2004/TheSchedule and http://live.gnome.org/Boston2005/TheSchedule) In the last few years, I think we had E51-315, E51-325, E51-335, E51-345 (in the Tang Center). Cheers, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Boston Summit logistics (was Re: Desktop Summit Planning)
Thanks so much for offering to look into this, Richard! I hear that the Stata Center was a better location in the past than the Economics Building if we have the choice... When it was in the Stata Center, which rooms were they? If I get the room numbers, I will know exactly what to ask for. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use free telephony http://directory.fsf.org/category/tel/ ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Boston Summit logistics (was Re: Desktop Summit Planning)
On Thu, December 15, 2011 5:28 pm, Germán Póo-Caamaño wrote: > On Thu, 2011-12-15 at 16:41 -0500, Richard Stallman wrote: >> What did the previous MIT contact do? Maybe I can get it done. > > We used to get free rooms (~4) at MIT on Columbus day long weekend. > > It would be great if you can get done it. > Thanks so much for offering to look into this, Richard! I hear that the Stata Center was a better location in the past than the Economics Building if we have the choice... karen ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Boston Summit: We're going to Montréal!
Hey! You are in the board now! Good job! Have fun in Montreal! Je me souviens :) On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 7:26 PM, Ryan Lortie wrote: > Hello foundation members, > > Despite some heroic efforts by Colin and Karen, we were unable to > acquire a venue in Cambridge for this year's Boston Summit. > > Fortunately, some kind folks from Collabora jumped in and offered to > help organise the event in Montréal.  We've been furiously phoning > around to hammer out the details over the past couple of days and I'm > happy to announce that it's now official. > > The summit will occur, in Montréal, over the usual Canadian Thanksgiving > (US Columbus Day) long weekend.  Book your tickets now. > > The dates are Saturday October 8 to Monday October 10. > > There was some talk about a Gtk hackfest being co-located with the > summit, but this will not happen. > > The venue for the summit is the Ãcole Polytechnique de Montréal.  The > venue is well served by the Metro (station "Université-de-Montréalâ" on > the blue line).  The hotels are very inexpensive compared to Cambridge > (many available for less than $100/night and almost nothing over $200). > > Montréal Trudeau Airport (YUL) is the natural choice for those arriving > by plane.  Montréal is also about a 5 hour drive from the Boston area. > As of 2009, a passport is required for those entering Canada by car. > > Montréal is a beautiful city with a lot of history.  Anyone who has some > vacation time to burn would be well-advised to stay a few days extra. > > See more information on Wikitravel: http://wikitravel.org/en/Montreal > > A big thank you to Colin Walters and to Collabora for their efforts in > Cambridge and Montréal, respectively. > > Look forward to seeing you all there! > > -- > Ryan Lortie > (on behalf of the board of directors) > > ___ > foundation-announce mailing list > foundation-annou...@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-announce > ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Re: Boston Summit: We're going to Montr�al!
Don't forget the danger of unprovoked beatings while leaving the US at the Canadian border. Remember Peter Watts! If you're not coming from the US, don't go through the US to Canada. Flight connections in the US are nasty. If you are not a US citizen, they demand your fingerprints! -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use free telephony http://directory.fsf.org/category/tel/ ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Boston Summit: We're going to Montréal!
Just wanted to highlight: On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Ryan Lortie wrote: > > As of 2009, a passport is required for those entering Canada by car. Don't forget your passport. :) ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: The Boston (or "Boston") Summit?
Joanie: The announcement was just made today that the summit is October 8-10 in Montreal: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-announce/2011-September/msg0.html Brian The other day I heard an interesting rumor, which I've since been able to confirm [1]: There's a small chance that the Boston Summit might be the Montreal Summit. Montreal is all kinds of charming awesomeness, and if that is where the Summit is going to be this year, that's great. But it does of course mean that some people who didn't have to travel will now have to, and that some "meetings of convenience" with non-GNOME local folks might need to be rescheduled. Thus, for the purpose of managing logistics, I would find it extremely helpful to know where the Summit will be this year and if it will be held on the traditional date (i.e. only one month from now). With apologies to all for being a noodge (and especially to Emmanuele for my impatience after he suggested we might know something today.) Thanks in advance! --joanie [1] https://live.gnome.org/Boston2011 ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Boston Summit: We're going to Montréal!
Hello foundation members, Despite some heroic efforts by Colin and Karen, we were unable to acquire a venue in Cambridge for this year's Boston Summit. Fortunately, some kind folks from Collabora jumped in and offered to help organise the event in Montréal. We've been furiously phoning around to hammer out the details over the past couple of days and I'm happy to announce that it's now official. The summit will occur, in Montréal, over the usual Canadian Thanksgiving (US Columbus Day) long weekend. Book your tickets now. The dates are Saturday October 8 to Monday October 10. There was some talk about a Gtk hackfest being co-located with the summit, but this will not happen. The venue for the summit is the Ãcole Polytechnique de Montréal. The venue is well served by the Metro (station "Université-de-Montréalâ" on the blue line). The hotels are very inexpensive compared to Cambridge (many available for less than $100/night and almost nothing over $200). Montréal Trudeau Airport (YUL) is the natural choice for those arriving by plane. Montréal is also about a 5 hour drive from the Boston area. As of 2009, a passport is required for those entering Canada by car. Montréal is a beautiful city with a lot of history. Anyone who has some vacation time to burn would be well-advised to stay a few days extra. See more information on Wikitravel: http://wikitravel.org/en/Montreal A big thank you to Colin Walters and to Collabora for their efforts in Cambridge and Montréal, respectively. Look forward to seeing you all there! -- Ryan Lortie (on behalf of the board of directors) ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
The Boston (or "Boston") Summit?
Hey all. The other day I heard an interesting rumor, which I've since been able to confirm [1]: There's a small chance that the Boston Summit might be the Montreal Summit. Montreal is all kinds of charming awesomeness, and if that is where the Summit is going to be this year, that's great. But it does of course mean that some people who didn't have to travel will now have to, and that some "meetings of convenience" with non-GNOME local folks might need to be rescheduled. Thus, for the purpose of managing logistics, I would find it extremely helpful to know where the Summit will be this year and if it will be held on the traditional date (i.e. only one month from now). With apologies to all for being a noodge (and especially to Emmanuele for my impatience after he suggested we might know something today.) Thanks in advance! --joanie [1] https://live.gnome.org/Boston2011 ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Boston Summit laptop charger found
Someone left their charger for their laptop in the MIT Media Lab space. We discovered it as we were cleaning up for the day and so it could have been left behind at any point. I have it and would gladly ship it to whomever is missing it. Just contact me off-list and describe it. ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Status update? (was Re: Starting the process for this year's Boston Summit)
Hi Joanmarie, I have sent a request to Walter Bender and am waiting to hear back from him on room availabilities. The way MIT works is we have to go through faculty in order to secure a place to hold the conference. I should know by the 15th if not sooner which dates we will get. I am leaning towards November right now but since we have never held an event at MIT in November I'm not sure if we can get the room, in which case we will revert back to our usual October dates. I'll be posting to my blog and the foundation list as soon as I get any more information. - "Joanmarie Diggs" wrote: > Hi John. > > A number of us from the a11y community will be attending the AEGIS > Conference in Spain. We're now in the (very early) planning stages of > an > associated hackfest [1] and are trying to decide if it should extend > through 9 October. At least for me, the answer depends on what the > plans > are for the Boston Summit this year. > > Therefore, at the risk of being a noodge, would you happen to have > any > updates? > > Thanks in advance! Take care. > --joanie > > [1] http://live.gnome.org/Accessibility/HackfestAEGIS2010 > > On Wed, 2010-05-19 at 10:25 -0400, John Palmieri wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > I'm going to be starting the process for setting up the Boston > Summit. > > That basically means getting the space at MIT and then a budget > from > > the board. Last year we saw an issue with the timing of other > GNOME > > related conferences. This year we have a choice of two dates, > > Columbus day weekend, October 9th-11th or piggyback the weekend > after > > the Linux Plumbers conference, November 6th-8th. > > > > I'm leaning towards keeping Columbus day weekend because it is > easier > > to get rooms, and it reduces confusion by having it at the same > time > > every year. > > > > The reasons for piggybacking the Plumbers conference is that a > number > > of our fellow GNOMies will already be in Boston and we might get a > few > > stragglers from other parts of the Linux stack to stop by and offer > > their perspective. > > > > I want to get the foundation members' opinion on this. Ultimately > it > > will be up to the board to make a final decision but I plan to have > a > > concrete date by the middle of June if not sooner. > > > > I hope you are all getting excited to reflect on the work done in > the > > past year and plan the future of the GNOME platform. I hope to see > as > > many of you as possible at GUADEC and the Boston Summit this year! > > > > -- > > John (J5) Palmieri > > Software Engineer > > Red Hat, Inc. -- -- John (J5) Palmieri Software Engineer Red Hat, Inc. ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
