Re: [fpc-devel] DOS GUI

2014-01-14 Thread Thaddy

This is good advice.

It happened to me once or twice ;) that a certain company with ever 
changing names used my sourcecode and licensed it under their own closed 
terms because i included the term: use as you like.
If the owner wants that not to happen,, choose any of these licenses 
mentioned.
This is really important. Without huge legal fees I can't get my 
intellectual property  back


I am sadly, and not only with this company, not alone in this.

Protect it from misuse.

Thaddy

On 14-1-2014 11:27, Kostas Michalopoulos wrote:

Well, all open source projects need a license, otherwise they're not
very useful legally speaking, so he'll need to pick one. If he doesn't
care what people do with his code he can use a permissive license like
MIT or zlib. More information and a list of licenses can be found at
http://opensource.org/licenses

On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Anton Kavalenka anto...@tut.by wrote:

On 13.01.2014 15:30, Kostas Michalopoulos wrote:

Is it/will be open source? Under what license?

Author said so.
He gives it away for community for free.
He even did not require to mention his name.
Do you need a written permission from him?

regards,
Anton

btw it looked like http://www.unichrom.com/history/sv95.gif



On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 3:51 PM, Anton Kavalenka anto...@tut.by wrote:

On 07.01.2014 12:19, Michael Schnell wrote:

What is the difference between this and the TUI that comes up when you
start tp. (Same obviously already is part of the fpc source code
distribution.)

-Michael
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Sorry for delay.

Yes, It is TV-based. Non-gui units can be used either from TV or FV.

But GUI implementation is true graphic, not pseudographic dialog frames
etc.
Unit names of GUI part somewhat like TPW - kernel, user, windows but they
have nothing common except names.
GUI written from scratch in TV classes hierarchy.
generally it was looked like
UniChrom DOS

Btw where to upload sources - to listserver as mail attachment?

regards,
Anton



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Re: [fpc-devel] DOS GUI

2014-01-14 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich

Thaddy schrieb:

It happened to me once or twice ;) that a certain company with ever 
changing names used my sourcecode and licensed it under their own closed 
terms because i included the term: use as you like.


Better: free for private use.

If the owner wants that not to happen,, choose any of these licenses 
mentioned.
This is really important. Without huge legal fees I can't get my 
intellectual property  back


Sorry, that's nonsense. You still have all rights on your own software, 
no need to get anything back. Even in outdated Copyright terms a use 
as you like should not mean take ownership.


DoDi

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Re: [fpc-devel] DOS GUI

2014-01-14 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd

Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote:

If the owner wants that not to happen,, choose any of these licenses 
mentioned.
This is really important. Without huge legal fees I can't get my 
intellectual property  back


Sorry, that's nonsense. You still have all rights on your own software, 
no need to get anything back. Even in outdated Copyright terms a use 
as you like should not mean take ownership.


I don't think that's necessarily the case. If you don't make a clear 
statement of ownership in every accessible file then it's difficult to 
claim that it's not in the public domain (or res nullius), that's why 
classic IBM operating systems and HP calculator firmware are now being 
distributed freely.


--
Mark Morgan Lloyd
markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk

[Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers or colleagues]
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Re: [fpc-devel] DOS GUI

2014-01-14 Thread Michael Van Canneyt



On Tue, 14 Jan 2014, Tomas Hajny wrote:


On Tue, January 14, 2014 11:27, Kostas Michalopoulos wrote:

Well, all open source projects need a license, otherwise they're not
very useful legally speaking, so he'll need to pick one. If he doesn't
care what people do with his code he can use a permissive license like
MIT or zlib. More information and a list of licenses can be found at
http://opensource.org/licenses


The author may also decide to declare his work as public domain - no
special licence is then necessary.


I've always felt that the whole license issue is slightly fetishist :)

Michael.
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Re: [fpc-devel] DOS GUI

2014-01-14 Thread Tomas Hajny
On Tue, January 14, 2014 15:38, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
 Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote:

 If the owner wants that not to happen,, choose any of these licenses
 mentioned.
 This is really important. Without huge legal fees I can't get my
 intellectual property  back

 Sorry, that's nonsense. You still have all rights on your own software,
 no need to get anything back. Even in outdated Copyright terms a use
 as you like should not mean take ownership.

 I don't think that's necessarily the case. If you don't make a clear
 statement of ownership in every accessible file then it's difficult to
 claim that it's not in the public domain (or res nullius), that's why
 classic IBM operating systems and HP calculator firmware are now being
 distributed freely.

Even if it is in the public domain, you don't need to do anything to be
able to use it (you can use it as well as anybody else). On the other
hand, if you want to keep the licence terms under your control, you indeed
need to choose an appropriate licence first.

Tomas


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Re: [fpc-devel] DOS GUI

2014-01-14 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich

Mark Morgan Lloyd schrieb:

Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote:

If the owner wants that not to happen,, choose any of these licenses 
mentioned.
This is really important. Without huge legal fees I can't get my 
intellectual property  back


Sorry, that's nonsense. You still have all rights on your own 
software, no need to get anything back. Even in outdated Copyright 
terms a use as you like should not mean take ownership.


I don't think that's necessarily the case. If you don't make a clear 
statement of ownership in every accessible file then it's difficult to 
claim that it's not in the public domain (or res nullius),


In contrary, nobody can state then that it *is* in the public domain.

that's why 
classic IBM operating systems and HP calculator firmware are now being 
distributed freely.


Not legally in the EU, at least not with consent of the rights holder.

Ownership expires after some time, perhaps the old Copyright protection 
has expired now? Otherwise ownership expires 70 years after the *death* 
of the author, what unlikely happened for software yet :-]


In current international law (Droit d'Auteur) *only* the author has 
rights on his work. Everbody else must be allowed by the author to use 
it. That's why a author note will allow to identify the person from 
which one can obtain the right to use it. When the author can not be 
identified, then the work is *not* in the public domain, nobody is 
allowed to use it.


DoDi

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