Re: RE : RE : [fpc-pascal] JSON and UTF8
On Tue, 10 Jul 2012, Ludo Brands wrote: Because the old behaviour is not buggy. It simply did not support Unicode, and does the next best thing, in casu: it transforms to the system codepage. A car without ABS and SAT-Nav is not buggy. It just doesn't support features which are nowadays called standard. You can perfectly drive it. An old car without a seat belt is buggy although when it was built seat belts where not standard. I still wouldn't call the car buggy. For me a car must be able to drive. That is its essential function. If it doesn't start, or stops every 5 minutes, then it is buggy. All the rest are options. Whether they are legally required or not is irrelevant to the car-ness of the car. But I drive a motorcycle, so the point is moot ;-) Just as Unicode is nowadays standard, N years ago, it was not. Since backwards compatibility is very important, we must offer the option. The Json standard specifies unicode. Why have utf8 default off? For backwards compatibility by default. Old cars are retro-fitted with seat belts. Why sell new cars with seat belts as an option? So you'd reverse the constructor boolean argument to specify Utf8 as default, and let the user choose the old behaviour if he needs it ? Michael. ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
RE : RE : RE : [fpc-pascal] JSON and UTF8
So you'd reverse the constructor boolean argument to specify Utf8 as default, and let the user choose the old behaviour if he needs it ? If that is unthinkable then define new contructors TJSONParser.Create2(...,AUseUTF8 : Boolean = True) or Create2(...,AUseUTF8 : Boolean = True) and mark the Create(...) as deprecated. Or deprecate TJSONParser and make it a descendant of TJSONParser2 that has Create(...,AUseUTF8 : Boolean = True) constructors. Ludo ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: RE : RE : RE : [fpc-pascal] JSON and UTF8
On Tue, 10 Jul 2012, Ludo Brands wrote: So you'd reverse the constructor boolean argument to specify Utf8 as default, and let the user choose the old behaviour if he needs it ? If that is unthinkable then define new contructors TJSONParser.Create2(...,AUseUTF8 : Boolean = True) or Create2(...,AUseUTF8 : Boolean = True) and mark the Create(...) as deprecated. Or deprecate TJSONParser and make it a descendant of TJSONParser2 that has Create(...,AUseUTF8 : Boolean = True) constructors. Nothing is unthinkable. The other constructs are very ugly. I reversed the argument default value to True. UTF8 is now the default. Michael. ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
RE : RE : RE : RE : [fpc-pascal] JSON and UTF8
Nothing is unthinkable. The other constructs are very ugly. I reversed the argument default value to True. UTF8 is now the default. A very wise decision;) Ludo ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: RE : RE : RE : RE : [fpc-pascal] JSON and UTF8
On Tue, 10 Jul 2012, Ludo Brands wrote: Nothing is unthinkable. The other constructs are very ugly. I reversed the argument default value to True. UTF8 is now the default. A very wise decision;) I must be getting older :) Seriously: when json support was written, Unicode/UTF8 support in FPC was sketchy at best. It makes sense to change it, but backward compatibility must be preserved as much as possible. I have added a section to http://wiki.freepascal.org/index.php?title=User_Changes_Trunk to notify people of this change. Michael. ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: RE : RE : RE : RE : [fpc-pascal] JSON and UTF8
On 10 Jul 2012, at 11:40, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: I have added a section to http://wiki.freepascal.org/index.php?title=User_Changes_Trunk to notify people of this change. Could you change it to use the same format/template as the other entries? Jonas ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: RE : RE : RE : RE : [fpc-pascal] JSON and UTF8
In our previous episode, Michael Van Canneyt said: http://wiki.freepascal.org/index.php?title=User_Changes_Trunk to notify people of this change. Could you change it to use the same format/template as the other entries? We can always trust Jonas to notice such things :-) Done. Jonas remark reminded me of something else. Delphi uses TEncoding everywhere as parameter (specially load/savetofile/stream like methods) to select codepage. Maybe do that too here? ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
