Re: [fpc-pascal] RE: FPIDE 1.0.6

2013-07-31 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd 

Marco van de Voort wrote:

In our previous episode, Sven Barth said:

IDE shows 44 bug records. Not all of these are real bugs, because there
are also feature requests, etc., and not all bugs might be selected this
way due to incomplete or incorrect input provided by the original bug
reporter, but it gives you some indication at least.
Also some bugs might not have been reported because of a smaller user 
base and thus smaller test coverage...


And, a release that was the "latest" release for a much longer period of
course has a higher chance of bugs begin detected.

And IIRC 1.0.10 was one of the longest running releases.


I'm still bothered, particularly now that the subject line is "FPIDE 
1.0.6". I think that it would be interesting to know *exactly* what the 
OP is doing to get that version number, and *exactly* how that version 
number is reported.


In particular, is he looking at something comparable with this:

FreePascal IDE for Linux for i386
 Target CPU: i386
Version 1.0.12 2012/11/14

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Re: [fpc-pascal] RE: FPIDE 1.0.6

2013-07-31 Thread Marco van de Voort 
In our previous episode, Sven Barth said:
> > IDE shows 44 bug records. Not all of these are real bugs, because there
> > are also feature requests, etc., and not all bugs might be selected this
> > way due to incomplete or incorrect input provided by the original bug
> > reporter, but it gives you some indication at least.
> 
> Also some bugs might not have been reported because of a smaller user 
> base and thus smaller test coverage...

And, a release that was the "latest" release for a much longer period of
course has a higher chance of bugs begin detected.

And IIRC 1.0.10 was one of the longest running releases.
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Re: [fpc-pascal] RE: FPIDE 1.0.6

2013-07-31 Thread Sven Barth 

On 31.07.2013 18:02, Tomas Hajny wrote:

On Wed, July 31, 2013 12:05, Matúš Kudláč wrote:

No, I have got FPC 1.0.6. Maybe I will be able to use FPC 1.0.10. Is that
more stable? Are there some stability problems with that version?


As already indicated previously, the most relevant information for you is
obtained by simply testing it on your own use cases and in your own
environment. Nevertheless, you can obviously also have a look at bugs
reported for that particular version and categories relevant for you in
our bugs repository.

As an example, filtering for product version 1.0.10 and category text-mode
IDE shows 44 bug records. Not all of these are real bugs, because there
are also feature requests, etc., and not all bugs might be selected this
way due to incomplete or incorrect input provided by the original bug
reporter, but it gives you some indication at least.


Also some bugs might not have been reported because of a smaller user 
base and thus smaller test coverage...


Regards,
Sven

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Re: [fpc-pascal] RE: FPIDE 1.0.6

2013-07-31 Thread Tomas Hajny 
On Wed, July 31, 2013 12:05, Matúš Kudláč wrote:
> No, I have got FPC 1.0.6. Maybe I will be able to use FPC 1.0.10. Is that
> more stable? Are there some stability problems with that version?

As already indicated previously, the most relevant information for you is
obtained by simply testing it on your own use cases and in your own
environment. Nevertheless, you can obviously also have a look at bugs
reported for that particular version and categories relevant for you in
our bugs repository.

As an example, filtering for product version 1.0.10 and category text-mode
IDE shows 44 bug records. Not all of these are real bugs, because there
are also feature requests, etc., and not all bugs might be selected this
way due to incomplete or incorrect input provided by the original bug
reporter, but it gives you some indication at least.

Tomas


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Re: [fpc-pascal] RE: FPIDE 1.0.6

2013-07-31 Thread Jonas Maebe 


On 31 Jul 2013, at 12:05, Matúš Kudláč wrote:

No, I have got FPC 1.0.6. Maybe I will be able to use FPC 1.0.10. Is  
that

more stable? Are there some stability problems with that version?


You are asking about a version that was released 10 years ago. If you  
want to get useful answers, you should be much more specific than "are  
there some stability problems with that version". The text mode IDE  
was probably extremely unstable, but other than that it's hard to  
quantify things. It was the last version in the 1.0.x series, so  
presumably it was reasonably ok. The only way to find out is to try  
use it (if you still can find a download; we cannot distribute it  
anymore because it was discovered that it contained code that may have  
been copied from Borland sources).



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Re: [fpc-pascal] RE: FPIDE 1.0.6

2013-07-31 Thread Matúš Kudláč 
No, I have got FPC 1.0.6. Maybe I will be able to use FPC 1.0.10. Is that
more stable? Are there some stability problems with that version?


On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 11:29 PM, Mark Morgan Lloyd <
markmll.fpc-pas...@telemetry.co.uk> wrote:

> Pierre Free Pascal wrote:
>
>>   The version of the IDE is different from the compiler version.
>>
>> Could you please tell us the compiler version?
>> It can be found in "Help|About" menu entry.
>>
>> Even compiler version 2.4.0 already has IDE version 1.0.12...
>> Thus I suspect that 1.0.6 corresponds to a really old compiler.
>> It will be difficult to get feedback on outdate releases...
>>
>
> /If/ that's the case, then he's got FPC 2.0.2.
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Re: [fpc-pascal] RE: FPIDE 1.0.6

2013-07-24 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd 

Pierre Free Pascal wrote:

  The version of the IDE is different from the compiler version.

Could you please tell us the compiler version?
It can be found in "Help|About" menu entry.

Even compiler version 2.4.0 already has IDE version 1.0.12...
Thus I suspect that 1.0.6 corresponds to a really old compiler.
It will be difficult to get feedback on outdate releases...


/If/ that's the case, then he's got FPC 2.0.2.

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