date:20051208

At 11:49 am -0600 8/12/05, Peter Gold wrote:
>Hi, Steve:
>
>Thanks for the feedback. Do you think there was a problem with Classic's 
>ability to handle the length of the filename or pathname?

No, I don't think so, as the folder concerned was just called 'Graphics' ;-) I 
expected it to work, but it didn't. Surprise.

Ah, I see what you mean... the combined length of the pathname might have been 
too long. Er, ok - will run simple test now... no, it doesn't work even when 
the combined path lengths come nowhere near the 31 character limit. FrameMake 
doesn't want to follow an alias to a graphics folder that has the same name as 
the original. However, once you've told it to use the alias and chosen the 
'update document to use new path', all is well, and remains so.

I realise I'm not being as clear as I might here: what is happening is that 
FrameMaker, after using an actual folder to source graphics, cannot identify an 
alias to that folder as being the same thing until it's told to. After that, it 
uses the alias ok. Sorry if I confused anyone earlier.
-- 
Steve

Pricing utility

2005-12-08 Thread Steve Iverson




Are there any 
catalog publishers out there (or anyone else) who uses some type of pricing 
utility with Framemaker? We are trying to find a way to publish a 1000 page 
catalog in Frame, and be able to "automate" the pricing 
process.
 
Any information 
would be helpful!
 
Steven P Iverson, President
 
Iverson Language Associates, 
Inc.
Managing Document 
Translation
 
Recipient of the 2005 
ClientSide Excellence Award for Service Provider of the Year
 
PO Box 511759
Milwaukee WI  53203
414-271-1144 Ext. 21
414-271-0144 Fax
www.iversonlang.com
 
Iverson Language Associates, Inc. is a 
long-standing member of the American Translators Association (ATA) and a 
founding member of the Association of Language Companies (ALC).
 
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At 11:39 am -0600 8/12/05, Peter Gold wrote:

>Has anyone successfully employed operating system links, aliases, or shortcuts 
>in project-specific graphics folders for this purpose? The idea is that you 
>can have project-specific directory structures that only contain links to the 
>source graphics that are stored in a central location. Each project's graphics 
>directory contains only the project's graphic links. FM files in each project 
>refer to the link, not to the source.

I tried alising a graphic folder within a book folder in FrameMaker 6 on Mac, 
but FrameMaker could not follow the link.
-- 
Steve

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Pricing utility

2005-12-08 Thread Steve Iverson

Are there any catalog publishers out there (or anyone else) who uses some
type of pricing utility with Framemaker? We are trying to find a way to
publish a 1000 page catalog in Frame, and be able to "automate" the pricing
process.

Any information would be helpful!

Steven P Iverson, President

Iverson Language Associates, Inc.
Managing Document Translation

Recipient of the 2005 ClientSide Excellence Award for Service Provider of
the Year

PO Box 511759
Milwaukee WI  53203
414-271-1144 Ext. 21
414-271-0144 Fax
www.iversonlang.com <http://www.iversonlang.com/> 

Iverson Language Associates, Inc. is a long-standing member of the American
Translators Association (ATA) and a founding member of the Association of
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cut off graphic

2005-12-08 Thread Yves Barbion

Right, Distiller Job Options (now known as "Adobe PDF Settings") is one 
instance where you can set the resolution.

But you also find it in the properties of your Adobe PDF printer driver 
instance. If I may quote the great Dov Isaacs:

"Properties => General (tab) => Printing Preferences ... (button) => 
Layout (tab) => Advanced (button)

Open trees and make sure that the following are set
(other options leave at original default settings):

Graphic => Print Quality => 600dpi

Why? Gets around known Windows 2000/XP GDI bug associated
with large point size & high resolution text being converted
to outlines. Also gets around FrameMaker bug associated with
higher resolution settings in combination with large page sizes
(similar bug in other applications as well). Using this setting
does not restrict the resolution at which the PDF file can
print and has no known bad effects."


Best regards

Yves Barbion 
Technical Writer
Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor


U&I Learning NV (formerly ATEK NV)
Molenaarsstraat 111 
B-9000 Gent 
Belgium 
Tel.: +32 9 265 74 72 
Fax: +32 9 265 74 84 
www.uni-learning.com




Ridder, Fred wrote:

> The most common cause of this behavior is using too
> high a resolution.  Look in the Distiller job options to
> see what resolution you are using. If it is 1200 or higher,
> try using a lower setting or a different set of job options
> that uses a lower resolution.
>  
>
> My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
> Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
> Staff Information Services Analyst
> Intel
> Parsippany, NJ
>
>
> 
> *From:* framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com]
> *On Behalf Of *Caroline Tabach
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 08, 2005 9:43 AM
> *To:* Framers
> *Subject:* cut off graphic
>
> I have a graphic from a JPEG, that displays well in the FrameMaker
> file, but is cut off in the PDF file (frame 6, acrobat version 7)
> (either the bottom or top is missing when I create the PDF)
> Can anyone guess why, and say how to fix it?
>  
> Caroline Tabach
> MarCom RADCOM
> caroline at radcom.com <mailto:caroline at radcom.com>
>
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Text into Table of Contents

2005-12-08 Thread Tweedy, Scott

I have a document that must be created each month.  The length of the
content of the document can vary, but for printing purposes the number of
pages in the document must be a multiple of 8.  When the number of pages in
the content isn't a multple of 8 the specifications call for two "dummy"
pages to be inserted (one on even pages and another on odd pages) until a
multiple of 8 is reached.  These entries are included in the table of
contents along with their page numbers.

I want to create these dummy pages using a master page.  I want to have text
appear in a disconnected text frame on the master page appear in the table
of contents that's generated from the document.  Is there any way of getting
a table of contents to read the text in a disconnected text frame?

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Re: RE: Can't Open a FM File

2005-12-08 Thread rebecca officer

Hi Pearl

We had a corrupted file once where the problem was that somehow we'd screwed an 
imported text inset (the TOC). It was set to automatically update insets and 
couldn't, so crashed. We deleted the TOC file and the chapter opened okay. So 
if you're linking to any other files, not just graphics, try renaming them.

To repeat what everyone else has said, we have our graphics in a separate 
folder and reference them with no problems. You can always get the name of the 
referenced files out of FM.

Cheers, Rebecca

>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 9/12/05 05:27 >>>
Hi Dominick,

I do not reference my graphics, but this may be a good reason to do 
so. Altho having the graphics in the files makes them larger, I also 
thought it would be easier to manage the book without a directory of 
graphics.

I'd be interested to hear from those of you who reference graphics 
about how hard it is (or isn't) to keep track of the graphic files.

Pearl Rosenberg
TeleHealth Services

- Original Message -
From: "DeFlorio, Dominick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, December 8, 2005 10:28 am
Subject: RE: Can't Open a FM File

> If it is hanging-up on a graphic, and you reference your graphics, 
try
> renaming the graphics folder.  If the file is not corrupt, Frame 
> shouldopen the file and issue an error message.
> 
> 
> Dominick A. DeFlorio
> Senior Technical Writer
> Plug Power, Inc.
> 968 Albany-Shaker Road
> Latham, NY 12110
> (518) 738-0389
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From:
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> To: Peter Gold
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> Subject: Re: Can't Open a FM File
> 
> Unfortunately this doesn't work either. I guess I'm going to have 
> to try
> to pull this info out of my memory and rewrite the chap again. 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Peter Gold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thursday, December 8, 2005 9:41 am
> Subject: Re: Can't Open a FM File
> 
> > Hi, Pearl:
> > 
> > It's more likely a corrupt file than a memory issue.
> > 
> > Have you tried the "open heroic" method? In FM, tap and rekease 
> these 
> > keys in sequence:
> > 
> > Escape
> > lowercase o
> > uppercase H
> > 
> > Then select the file in the Open dialog box. If it opens 
> successfully,
> > save it immediately to a new name.
> > 
> > At 9:29 AM -0500 12/8/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >Hi Framers,
> > >
> > >FM 7.0p578
> > >Windows XP Professional
> > >512 MB RAM
> > >
> > >I hope somebody can help me open this file. When I try to open 
> it, FM
> 
> > >tells me I do not have enough memory. The file is a little 
> under 2.7 
> > >MB, and there are larger FM files in the book
> > that FM
> > >does open. I've tried closing everything and rebooting and then 
> > >opening only that file, but I get the same message.
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Peter Gold
> > 
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Keeping track of graphics

2005-12-08 Thread Grant Hogarth


I use a mixed method, but reference *all* my graphics.
All scaps (screen captures) are in PNG format.
I have a Directory tree like so:


 |
--
|| | |
 Pix   P1P2Help
  |  |   
  ----
  | ||   |  
P1_Only   P2_Only  P1_Help P2_Help

NOTES: P1, P2 ... Have the FM files in them
   Pix has all the images except product-specific ones.


I also use a naming pattern:

but_   (scap of graphic button)
btxt_  (scap of text button)
dlg__  (scap of dialog --
with feature selected if required) 
dtl_ (scap of detail -- usually just a part of a
screen.)
emess_(scap of message dialog)
ill_ (externally created line drawing, flowchart,
etc.)
pic_ (scap of a displayed function; for example the
chart of a stock)
menu_(scap of menu)
rmenu_   (scap of right-click menu)
tbar_ (scap of toolbar) 
wiz__P  (scap of wizard page 1-n)

This makes themn easy to sort/locate.
For ease of use, the product specific versions are all prefixed by a
3-character code and an underscore 
(example: PRO_dlg_YAxis_Props_Grid.png = Professional version, Y-axis
Properties dialog, Grid tab )

I also have a number of naming conventions that are peculiar to this
particular product interface
(candlestick, sample, and others)
Grant

-Original Message-
From: Peter Gold
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 10:40 AM
To: Martinek, Carla
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Keeping track of graphics


Carla's point about using one graphic for all linked uses is the
simplest. However, the single central folder of all graphics could be
confusing.

Has anyone successfully employed operating system links, aliases, or
shortcuts in project-specific graphics folders for this purpose? The
idea is that you can have project-specific directory structures that
only contain links to the source graphics that are stored in a central
location. Each project's graphics directory contains only the project's
graphic links. FM files in each project refer to the link, not to the
source.

The advantages are fewer graphics (links) to manage for each project,
and a single graphic source for multiple uses.

The disadvantage is setting it up and retraining authors to use the new
approach.

I know that unix links are reliable, and that the reliable Macintosh
aliases are not an option past FM 7.0. Is anyone using Windows
shortcuts?

Regards,

Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices
peter at knowhowpro.com

Keeping track of graphics

Hi, Steve:

Thanks for the feedback. Do you think there was a problem with 
Classic's ability to handle the length of the filename or pathname?

Regards,

Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices

At 5:44 PM + 12/8/05, Steve Rickaby wrote:
>At 11:39 am -0600 8/12/05, Peter Gold wrote:
>
>>Has anyone successfully employed operating system links, aliases, 
>>or shortcuts in project-specific graphics folders for this purpose? 
>>The idea is that you can have project-specific directory structures 
>>that only contain links to the source graphics that are stored in a 
>>central location. Each project's graphics directory contains only 
>>the project's graphic links. FM files in each project refer to the 
>>link, not to the source.
>
>I tried alising a graphic folder within a book folder in FrameMaker 
>6 on Mac, but FrameMaker could not follow the link.
>--
>Steve

Re: Automating Frame/WWP Help and PDF generation

2005-12-08 Thread Martin Polley

Hi Roger,

I use AutoIt (completely free from http://www.autoitscript.com/autoit3/)
and FrameScript to do something very similar:

FrameScript
for the stuff that needs to be done in Frame (show/hide conditional
text, save as PDF, show all conditional text again, plus a workaround
for text insets (Xrefs from within insets don't get converted into
links in the PDF unless you "flatten" the text insets first...)).
AutoIt
for opening, controlling, and and closing Frame and WWP.

I don't run
AutoIt from the command line, though I'm sure you could.

And the PDFs that I get aren't perfect--they don't open on the first
page, so I have to fix them in Acrobat. (This may not be a problem with
the version of Frame you are using, and is something that you should
also be able to automate with AutoIt. I just never got around to it.)

If you need any specifics, please contact me off-list and I'll try to
help.

HTH,

Martin
Polley
Technical
Communicator
+972
(52)
3864280
Homepage

Roger Shuttleworth wrote:

Cross-posted to Framers and WWP-users
Hello All
My question relates to the software
industry, so feel free to delete now if that's not relevant to you.
I was talking to my manager and
developers today. We are looking into the possibility of automating
Help and PDF generation in the software build process, using our
present tools of FrameMaker 7.1 and WWP (v.7 and/or WWeP). The ideal
scenario would be:
1. Build process fires up WWP (via
command line/API?).
2. WWP takes Frame source files and
generates Help files.
3. Build process incorporates Help
files into build.
4. Build process fires up PDF
generation from Frame.
5. Build process incorporates PDF into
build.
I'm wondering if anyone on the list
has experience in this, or whether it is actually possible in whole or
in part. It sounds unlikely to me, given that WWP rarely performs
flawlessly in my experience and manual intervention is usually required.
There may be other tools that could
accomplish this (e.g. a DITA workflow, CMS, etc.), but before we
investigate those I need to know whether it is doable with what we
have. Any suggestions would be welcome. Thanks.
Roger Shuttleworth
London,
Canada

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Keeping track of graphics

Carla's point about using one graphic for all linked uses is the 
simplest. However, the single central folder of all graphics could be 
confusing.

Has anyone successfully employed operating system links, aliases, or 
shortcuts in project-specific graphics folders for this purpose? The 
idea is that you can have project-specific directory structures that 
only contain links to the source graphics that are stored in a 
central location. Each project's graphics directory contains only the 
project's graphic links. FM files in each project refer to the link, 
not to the source.

The advantages are fewer graphics (links) to manage for each project, 
and a single graphic source for multiple uses.

The disadvantage is setting it up and retraining authors to use the 
new approach.

I know that unix links are reliable, and that the reliable Macintosh 
aliases are not an option past FM 7.0. Is anyone using Windows 
shortcuts?

Regards,

Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices
peter at knowhowpro.com

At 11:09 AM -0600 12/8/05, Martinek, Carla wrote:
>We reference all graphics into our documents.  Currently we have a
>couple of thousand graphics stored centrally in the same folder
>location. While it can be a bit cumbersome to maintain that many
>graphics in the same folder, it ends up helping us in the long run
>because if a graphic is updated, it gets updated in *all* locations
>where it is used.  Previously we had project-specific graphic folders,
>and we found that the same graphic might be updated for one manual, but
>not for another.

Keeping track of graphics

2005-12-08 Thread Robert Kern

Pearl,

We only reference graphics and don't have any trouble keeping track of 
them (well, mostly no trouble). We name graphics according to their 
figure number or use and UNF for un-numbered graphics.  The rub comes 
when an author inserts a figure and all the figure numbers in the book 
change --- you end up with actual figure numbers being different than 
the figure number in the book, unless you renumber. Our books are done 
by chapter, so the quantity of graphics is usually small enough that we 
renumber to keep things in sync.  If the author adds a graphic its not 
as bad: you just add an alpha to the numbering scheme for the graphic 
(UNF1-1, UNF1-1b, UNF 1-2).

-bob
Robert Kern
President, TIPS Technical Publishing, Inc.
108 E. Main Street, Suite 4
Carrboro, NC  27510
www.technicalpublishing.com
bob at technicalpublishing.com
919-933-2629 phone and fax


pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com wrote:

>Hi Dominick,
>
>I do not reference my graphics, but this may be a good reason to do 
>so. Altho having the graphics in the files makes them larger, I also 
>thought it would be easier to manage the book without a directory of 
>graphics.
>
>I'd be interested to hear from those of you who reference graphics 
>about how hard it is (or isn't) to keep track of the graphic files.
>
>Pearl Rosenberg
>TeleHealth Services
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "DeFlorio, Dominick" 
>Date: Thursday, December 8, 2005 10:28 am
>Subject: RE: Can't Open a FM File
>
>  
>
>>If it is hanging-up on a graphic, and you reference your graphics, 
>>
>>
>try
>  
>
>>renaming the graphics folder.  If the file is not corrupt, Frame 
>>shouldopen the file and issue an error message.
>>
>>
>>Dominick A. DeFlorio
>>Senior Technical Writer
>>Plug Power, Inc.
>>968 Albany-Shaker Road
>>Latham, NY 12110
>>(518) 738-0389
>>
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From:
>>framers-bounces+dominick_deflorio=plugpower.com at lists.frameusers.com
>>[mailto:framers-
>>bounces+dominick_deflorio=plugpower.com at lists.frameusers.com] On 
>>Behalf Of pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com
>>Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 10:25 AM
>>To: Peter Gold
>>Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>>Subject: Re: Can't Open a FM File
>>
>>Unfortunately this doesn't work either. I guess I'm going to have 
>>to try
>>to pull this info out of my memory and rewrite the chap again. 
>>
>>- Original Message -
>>From: Peter Gold 
>>Date: Thursday, December 8, 2005 9:41 am
>>Subject: Re: Can't Open a FM File
>>
>>
>>
>>>Hi, Pearl:
>>>
>>>It's more likely a corrupt file than a memory issue.
>>>
>>>Have you tried the "open heroic" method? In FM, tap and rekease 
>>>  
>>>
>>these 
>>
>>
>>>keys in sequence:
>>>
>>>Escape
>>>lowercase o
>>>uppercase H
>>>
>>>Then select the file in the Open dialog box. If it opens 
>>>  
>>>
>>successfully,
>>
>>
>>>save it immediately to a new name.
>>>
>>>At 9:29 AM -0500 12/8/05, pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com wrote:
>>>  
>>>
>>>>Hi Framers,
>>>>
>>>>FM 7.0p578
>>>>Windows XP Professional
>>>>512 MB RAM
>>>>
>>>>I hope somebody can help me open this file. When I try to open 
>>>>
>>>>
>>it, FM
>>
>>
>>
>>>>tells me I do not have enough memory. The file is a little 
>>>>
>>>>
>>under 2.7 
>>
>>
>>>>MB, and there are larger FM files in the book
>>>>
>>>>
>>>that FM
>>>  
>>>
>>>>does open. I've tried closing everything and rebooting and then 
>>>>opening only that file, but I get the same message.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>--
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>
>>>Peter Gold
>>>
>>>  
>>>
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Can't Open a FM File

2005-12-08 Thread Dona Mommsen

Hi Pearl,

I once had a problem with a corrupted file, and there the heroic open  
didn't help, but opening it while suppressing the automatic update of  
references.
> To open a document without updating references:
> 1.Choose File?> Open, and select the file you want to open.
> 2.Do one of the following:
> * (Windows) Control-click Open.

Also, feel free to send me the file privately, I'll try if I'm able to  
open it (using Frame on Mac).

I'm keeping my graphics in a separate directory and have absolutely no  
problems with that.

Good luck.

Dona

On Dec 8, 2005, at 9:24 AM, pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com wrote:

> Unfortunately this doesn't work either. I guess I'm going to have to
> try to pull this info out of my memory and rewrite the chap again.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Peter Gold 
> Date: Thursday, December 8, 2005 9:41 am
> Subject: Re: Can't Open a FM File
>
>> Hi, Pearl:
>>
>> It's more likely a corrupt file than a memory issue.
>>
>> Have you tried the "open heroic" method? In FM, tap and rekease
>> these
>> keys in sequence:
>>
>> Escape
>> lowercase o
>> uppercase H
>>
>> Then select the file in the Open dialog box. If it opens
>> successfully, save it immediately to a new name.
>>
>> At 9:29 AM -0500 12/8/05, pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com wrote:
>>> Hi Framers,
>>>
>>> FM 7.0p578
>>> Windows XP Professional
>>> 512 MB RAM
>>>
>>> I hope somebody can help me open this file. When I try to open
>>> it, FM tells me I do not have enough memory. The file is a
>>> little under 2.7 MB, and there are larger FM files in the book
>> that FM
>>> does open. I've tried closing everything and rebooting and then
>>> opening only that file, but I get the same message.
>>
>>
>> --  
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Peter Gold
>>
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>>
>> http://www.knowhowpro.com
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Can't Open a FM File

Hi Dominick,

I do not reference my graphics, but this may be a good reason to do 
so. Altho having the graphics in the files makes them larger, I also 
thought it would be easier to manage the book without a directory of 
graphics.

I'd be interested to hear from those of you who reference graphics 
about how hard it is (or isn't) to keep track of the graphic files.

Pearl Rosenberg
TeleHealth Services

- Original Message -
From: "DeFlorio, Dominick" 
Date: Thursday, December 8, 2005 10:28 am
Subject: RE: Can't Open a FM File

> If it is hanging-up on a graphic, and you reference your graphics, 
try
> renaming the graphics folder.  If the file is not corrupt, Frame 
> shouldopen the file and issue an error message.
> 
> 
> Dominick A. DeFlorio
> Senior Technical Writer
> Plug Power, Inc.
> 968 Albany-Shaker Road
> Latham, NY 12110
> (518) 738-0389
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From:
> framers-bounces+dominick_deflorio=plugpower.com at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-
> bounces+dominick_deflorio=plugpower.com at lists.frameusers.com] On 
> Behalf Of pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com
> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 10:25 AM
> To: Peter Gold
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: Can't Open a FM File
> 
> Unfortunately this doesn't work either. I guess I'm going to have 
> to try
> to pull this info out of my memory and rewrite the chap again. 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Peter Gold 
> Date: Thursday, December 8, 2005 9:41 am
> Subject: Re: Can't Open a FM File
> 
> > Hi, Pearl:
> > 
> > It's more likely a corrupt file than a memory issue.
> > 
> > Have you tried the "open heroic" method? In FM, tap and rekease 
> these 
> > keys in sequence:
> > 
> > Escape
> > lowercase o
> > uppercase H
> > 
> > Then select the file in the Open dialog box. If it opens 
> successfully,
> > save it immediately to a new name.
> > 
> > At 9:29 AM -0500 12/8/05, pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com wrote:
> > >Hi Framers,
> > >
> > >FM 7.0p578
> > >Windows XP Professional
> > >512 MB RAM
> > >
> > >I hope somebody can help me open this file. When I try to open 
> it, FM
> 
> > >tells me I do not have enough memory. The file is a little 
> under 2.7 
> > >MB, and there are larger FM files in the book
> > that FM
> > >does open. I've tried closing everything and rebooting and then 
> > >opening only that file, but I get the same message.
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Peter Gold
> > 
> 
___peter at knowhowpro.com
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> > 
> > http://www.knowhowpro.com
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Text into Table of Contents

2005-12-08 Thread Tweedy, Scott




I have a document 
that must be created each month.  The length of the content of the document 
can vary, but for printing purposes the number of pages in the document 
must be a multiple of 8.  When the number of pages in the content isn't a 
multple of 8 the specifications call for two "dummy" pages to be inserted 
(one on even pages and another on odd pages) until a multiple of 8 is 
reached.  These entries are included in the table of contents along with 
their page numbers.
 
I want to create 
these dummy pages using a master page.  I want to have text appear in a 
disconnected text frame on the master page appear in the table of contents 
that's generated from the document.  Is there any way of getting a table of 
contents to read the text in a disconnected text frame?
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Keeping track of graphics

2005-12-08 Thread Martinek, Carla

We reference all graphics into our documents.  Currently we have a
couple of thousand graphics stored centrally in the same folder
location. While it can be a bit cumbersome to maintain that many
graphics in the same folder, it ends up helping us in the long run
because if a graphic is updated, it gets updated in *all* locations
where it is used.  Previously we had project-specific graphic folders,
and we found that the same graphic might be updated for one manual, but
not for another.

We avoid naming files by document name or figure number because of the
reasons Bob Kern mentioned (if you insert one in the middle, what
happens to the numbering?).  Also, most graphics are used in multiple
locations, such as in the User Guide and in the Maintenance Manuals, so
the fig. numbering really didn't apply for all uses.

Instead, we set up a naming scheme that incorporates the product/s the
graphic is used for and a pre-defined set of procedural/descriptive
words.  It took some time on the front end for our graphics team to set
this up, but it seems to be working pretty well for the most part.

Also, if links are broken, there is only one folder to point to for
updating the path.

-Carla
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Can't Open a FM File


True.  Fairly useless in this case, but since she sounded desperate, it
was worth a try...

Dominick A. DeFlorio
Senior Technical Writer
Plug Power, Inc.
968 Albany-Shaker Road
Latham, NY 12110
(518) 738-0389


-Original Message-
From: Ridder, Fred [mailto:fred.rid...@intel.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 10:57 AM
To: DeFlorio, Dominick; pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com;
framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Can't Open a FM File

While on the subject of .backup files, it is important to note that
these are not real backups.  All that happens is that whn you do a Save,
FrameMaker renames the last manually saved version of the file with a
second extension (.backup) rather than marking it as an unused file that
the OS can reallocate. In other words, the "backup" file is always one
save behind the real working file, and the magnitude of the difference
depends on how frequently you remember to do manual saves. 

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com) Intel Parsippany, NJ



-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of DeFlorio, Dominick
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 9:33 AM
To: pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Can't Open a FM File

If you're setup for backup saves...have you tried opening the
*.backup.fm? 


Dominick A. DeFlorio
Senior Technical Writer
Plug Power, Inc.
968 Albany-Shaker Road
Latham, NY 12110
(518) 738-0389


-Original Message-
From:
framers-bounces+dominick_deflorio=plugpower.com at lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+dominick_deflorio=plugpower.com at lists.frameusers
.com] On Behalf Of pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 9:30 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Can't Open a FM File

Hi Framers,

FM 7.0p578
Windows XP Professional
512 MB RAM

I hope somebody can help me open this file. When I try to open it, FM
tells me I do not have enough memory. The file is a little under 2.7 MB,
and there are larger FM files in the book that FM does open. I've tried
closing everything and rebooting and then opening only that file, but I
get the same message.

There are a lot of graphics in the file, and I suspect that is the
problem. If I could just open the file to get the text back, I could
work around the graphics (split the chap into two maybe). 

I've tried opening the file in Word, but it was garbage. I tried
converting it using a trial version of Mif2Go, but it converted all the
files in the book except the one I can't open. Also, I gave a copy to a
co-worker who has 1 GB of RAM, and he couldn't open it either.

Please, can somebody help? I put a lot of hard work into this chapter!

Thanks in advance for your help.
Pearl Rosenberg
TeleHealth Services

Can't Open a FM File

While on the subject of .backup files, it is important to note that 
these are not real backups.  All that happens is that whn you do 
a Save, FrameMaker renames the last manually saved version of 
the file with a second extension (.backup) rather than marking it 
as an unused file that the OS can reallocate. In other words, the 
"backup" file is always one save behind the real working file,
and the magnitude of the difference depends on how frequently
you remember to do manual saves. 

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of DeFlorio, Dominick
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 9:33 AM
To: pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Can't Open a FM File

If you're setup for backup saves...have you tried opening the
*.backup.fm? 


Dominick A. DeFlorio
Senior Technical Writer
Plug Power, Inc.
968 Albany-Shaker Road
Latham, NY 12110
(518) 738-0389


-Original Message-
From:
framers-bounces+dominick_deflorio=plugpower.com at lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+dominick_deflorio=plugpower.com at lists.frameusers
.com] On Behalf Of pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 9:30 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Can't Open a FM File

Hi Framers,

FM 7.0p578
Windows XP Professional
512 MB RAM

I hope somebody can help me open this file. When I try to open it, FM
tells me I do not have enough memory. The file is a little under 2.7 MB,
and there are larger FM files in the book that FM does open. I've tried
closing everything and rebooting and then opening only that file, but I
get the same message.

There are a lot of graphics in the file, and I suspect that is the
problem. If I could just open the file to get the text back, I could
work around the graphics (split the chap into two maybe). 

I've tried opening the file in Word, but it was garbage. I tried
converting it using a trial version of Mif2Go, but it converted all the
files in the book except the one I can't open. Also, I gave a copy to a
co-worker who has 1 GB of RAM, and he couldn't open it either.

Please, can somebody help? I put a lot of hard work into this chapter!

Thanks in advance for your help.
Pearl Rosenberg
TeleHealth Services

RE: Keeping track of graphics

2005-12-08 Thread Grant Hogarth

 
I use a mixed method, but reference *all* my graphics.
All scaps (screen captures) are in PNG format.
I have a Directory tree like so:


 |
--
|| | |
 Pix   P1P2Help
  |  |   
  ----
  | ||   |  
P1_Only   P2_Only  P1_Help P2_Help

NOTES: P1, P2 ... Have the FM files in them
   Pix has all the images except product-specific ones.


I also use a naming pattern:

but_   (scap of graphic button)
btxt_  (scap of text button)
dlg__  (scap of dialog --
with feature selected if required) 
dtl_ (scap of detail -- usually just a part of a
screen.)
emess_(scap of message dialog)
ill_ (externally created line drawing, flowchart,
etc.)
pic_ (scap of a displayed function; for example the
chart of a stock)
menu_(scap of menu)
rmenu_   (scap of right-click menu)
tbar_ (scap of toolbar) 
wiz__P  (scap of wizard page 1-n)

This makes themn easy to sort/locate.
For ease of use, the product specific versions are all prefixed by a
3-character code and an underscore 
(example: PRO_dlg_YAxis_Props_Grid.png = Professional version, Y-axis
Properties dialog, Grid tab )

I also have a number of naming conventions that are peculiar to this
particular product interface
(candlestick, sample, and others)
Grant

-Original Message-
From: Peter Gold
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 10:40 AM
To: Martinek, Carla
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Keeping track of graphics


Carla's point about using one graphic for all linked uses is the
simplest. However, the single central folder of all graphics could be
confusing.

Has anyone successfully employed operating system links, aliases, or
shortcuts in project-specific graphics folders for this purpose? The
idea is that you can have project-specific directory structures that
only contain links to the source graphics that are stored in a central
location. Each project's graphics directory contains only the project's
graphic links. FM files in each project refer to the link, not to the
source.

The advantages are fewer graphics (links) to manage for each project,
and a single graphic source for multiple uses.

The disadvantage is setting it up and retraining authors to use the new
approach.

I know that unix links are reliable, and that the reliable Macintosh
aliases are not an option past FM 7.0. Is anyone using Windows
shortcuts?

Regards,

Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices
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RE: Keeping track of graphics

At 11:49 am -0600 8/12/05, Peter Gold wrote:
>Hi, Steve:
>
>Thanks for the feedback. Do you think there was a problem with Classic's 
>ability to handle the length of the filename or pathname?

No, I don't think so, as the folder concerned was just called 'Graphics' ;-) I 
expected it to work, but it didn't. Surprise.

Ah, I see what you mean... the combined length of the pathname might have been 
too long. Er, ok - will run simple test now... no, it doesn't work even when 
the combined path lengths come nowhere near the 31 character limit. FrameMake 
doesn't want to follow an alias to a graphics folder that has the same name as 
the original. However, once you've told it to use the alias and chosen the 
'update document to use new path', all is well, and remains so.

I realise I'm not being as clear as I might here: what is happening is that 
FrameMaker, after using an actual folder to source graphics, cannot identify an 
alias to that folder as being the same thing until it's told to. After that, it 
uses the alias ok. Sorry if I confused anyone earlier.
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RE: Keeping track of graphics

At 11:39 am -0600 8/12/05, Peter Gold wrote:

>Has anyone successfully employed operating system links, aliases, or shortcuts 
>in project-specific graphics folders for this purpose? The idea is that you 
>can have project-specific directory structures that only contain links to the 
>source graphics that are stored in a central location. Each project's graphics 
>directory contains only the project's graphic links. FM files in each project 
>refer to the link, not to the source.

I tried alising a graphic folder within a book folder in FrameMaker 6 on Mac, 
but FrameMaker could not follow the link.
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Can't Open a FM File

If it is hanging-up on a graphic, and you reference your graphics, try
renaming the graphics folder.  If the file is not corrupt, Frame should
open the file and issue an error message.


Dominick A. DeFlorio
Senior Technical Writer
Plug Power, Inc.
968 Albany-Shaker Road
Latham, NY 12110
(518) 738-0389


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[mailto:framers-bounces+dominick_deflorio=plugpower.com at lists.frameusers
.com] On Behalf Of pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 10:25 AM
To: Peter Gold
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Can't Open a FM File

Unfortunately this doesn't work either. I guess I'm going to have to try
to pull this info out of my memory and rewrite the chap again. 

- Original Message -
From: Peter Gold 
Date: Thursday, December 8, 2005 9:41 am
Subject: Re: Can't Open a FM File

> Hi, Pearl:
> 
> It's more likely a corrupt file than a memory issue.
> 
> Have you tried the "open heroic" method? In FM, tap and rekease these 
> keys in sequence:
> 
> Escape
> lowercase o
> uppercase H
> 
> Then select the file in the Open dialog box. If it opens successfully,

> save it immediately to a new name.
> 
> At 9:29 AM -0500 12/8/05, pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com wrote:
> >Hi Framers,
> >
> >FM 7.0p578
> >Windows XP Professional
> >512 MB RAM
> >
> >I hope somebody can help me open this file. When I try to open it, FM

> >tells me I do not have enough memory. The file is a little under 2.7 
> >MB, and there are larger FM files in the book
> that FM
> >does open. I've tried closing everything and rebooting and then 
> >opening only that file, but I get the same message.
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Peter Gold
> 
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Can't Open a FM File

Unfortunately this doesn't work either. I guess I'm going to have to 
try to pull this info out of my memory and rewrite the chap again. 

- Original Message -
From: Peter Gold 
Date: Thursday, December 8, 2005 9:41 am
Subject: Re: Can't Open a FM File

> Hi, Pearl:
> 
> It's more likely a corrupt file than a memory issue.
> 
> Have you tried the "open heroic" method? In FM, tap and rekease 
> these 
> keys in sequence:
> 
> Escape
> lowercase o
> uppercase H
> 
> Then select the file in the Open dialog box. If it opens 
> successfully, save it immediately to a new name.
> 
> At 9:29 AM -0500 12/8/05, pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com wrote:
> >Hi Framers,
> >
> >FM 7.0p578
> >Windows XP Professional
> >512 MB RAM
> >
> >I hope somebody can help me open this file. When I try to open
> >it, FM tells me I do not have enough memory. The file is a
> >little under 2.7 MB, and there are larger FM files in the book 
> that FM
> >does open. I've tried closing everything and rebooting and then
> >opening only that file, but I get the same message.
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Peter Gold
> 
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Can't Open a FM File

2005-12-08 Thread Donald M Rinderknecht

Has anyone else tried opening it for you on another machine?

Thanks,
Don.

Don Rinderknecht -- KD5MVV
Meteorologist Instructor/Developer ~ Warning Decision Training Branch$

- Original Message -
From: "Ridder, Fred" 
Date: Thursday, December 8, 2005 9:57 am
Subject: RE: Can't Open a FM File

> While on the subject of .backup files, it is important to note 
> that 
> these are not real backups.  All that happens is that whn you do 
> a Save, FrameMaker renames the last manually saved version of 
> the file with a second extension (.backup) rather than marking it 
> as an unused file that the OS can reallocate. In other words, the 
> "backup" file is always one save behind the real working file,
> and the magnitude of the difference depends on how frequently
> you remember to do manual saves. 
> 
> My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
> Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
> Intel
> Parsippany, NJ
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-
> bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
> Behalf Of DeFlorio, Dominick
> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 9:33 AM
> To: pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: Can't Open a FM File
> 
> If you're setup for backup saves...have you tried opening the
> *.backup.fm? 
> 
> 
> Dominick A. DeFlorio
> Senior Technical Writer
> Plug Power, Inc.
> 968 Albany-Shaker Road
> Latham, NY 12110
> (518) 738-0389
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From:
> framers-bounces+dominick_deflorio=plugpower.com at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-
> bounces+dominick_deflorio=plugpower.com at lists.frameusers.com] On 
> Behalf Of pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com
> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 9:30 AM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Can't Open a FM File
> 
> Hi Framers,
> 
> FM 7.0p578
> Windows XP Professional
> 512 MB RAM
> 
> I hope somebody can help me open this file. When I try to open it, FM
> tells me I do not have enough memory. The file is a little under 
> 2.7 MB,
> and there are larger FM files in the book that FM does open. I've 
> triedclosing everything and rebooting and then opening only that 
> file, but I
> get the same message.
> 
> There are a lot of graphics in the file, and I suspect that is the
> problem. If I could just open the file to get the text back, I could
> work around the graphics (split the chap into two maybe). 
> 
> I've tried opening the file in Word, but it was garbage. I tried
> converting it using a trial version of Mif2Go, but it converted 
> all the
> files in the book except the one I can't open. Also, I gave a copy 
> to a
> co-worker who has 1 GB of RAM, and he couldn't open it either.
> 
> Please, can somebody help? I put a lot of hard work into this 
chapter!
> 
> Thanks in advance for your help.
> Pearl Rosenberg
> TeleHealth Services
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Can't Open a FM File

Yes. Unfortunately, the backup is the same.

- Original Message -
From: "DeFlorio, Dominick" 
Date: Thursday, December 8, 2005 9:33 am
Subject: RE: Can't Open a FM File

> If you're setup for backup saves...have you tried opening the
> *.backup.fm? 
> 
> 
> Dominick A. DeFlorio
> Senior Technical Writer
> Plug Power, Inc.
> 968 Albany-Shaker Road
> Latham, NY 12110
> (518) 738-0389
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> [mailto:framers-
> bounces+dominick_deflorio=plugpower.com at lists.frameusers.com] On 
> Behalf Of pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com
> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 9:30 AM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Can't Open a FM File
> 
> Hi Framers,
> 
> FM 7.0p578
> Windows XP Professional
> 512 MB RAM
> 
> I hope somebody can help me open this file. When I try to open it, FM
> tells me I do not have enough memory. The file is a little under 
> 2.7 MB,
> and there are larger FM files in the book that FM does open. I've 
> triedclosing everything and rebooting and then opening only that 
> file, but I
> get the same message.
> 
> There are a lot of graphics in the file, and I suspect that is the
> problem. If I could just open the file to get the text back, I could
> work around the graphics (split the chap into two maybe). 
> 
> I've tried opening the file in Word, but it was garbage. I tried
> converting it using a trial version of Mif2Go, but it converted 
> all the
> files in the book except the one I can't open. Also, I gave a copy 
> to a
> co-worker who has 1 GB of RAM, and he couldn't open it either.
> 
> Please, can somebody help? I put a lot of hard work into this 
chapter!
> 
> Thanks in advance for your help.
> Pearl Rosenberg
> TeleHealth Services
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cut off graphic

The most common cause of this behavior is using too 
high a resolution.  Look in the Distiller job options to
see what resolution you are using. If it is 1200 or higher,
try using a lower setting or a different set of job options
that uses a lower resolution.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel. 
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com) 
Staff Information Services Analyst 
Intel 
Parsippany, NJ 




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Behalf Of Caroline Tabach
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 9:43 AM
To: Framers
Subject: cut off graphic


I have a graphic from a JPEG, that displays well in the
FrameMaker file, but is cut off in the PDF file (frame 6, acrobat
version 7) (either the bottom or top is missing when I create the PDF)
Can anyone guess why, and say how to fix it?

Caroline Tabach
MarCom RADCOM
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RE: Keeping track of graphics


Hi, Steve:

Thanks for the feedback. Do you think there was a problem with 
Classic's ability to handle the length of the filename or pathname?


Regards,

Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices

At 5:44 PM + 12/8/05, Steve Rickaby wrote:

At 11:39 am -0600 8/12/05, Peter Gold wrote:

Has anyone successfully employed operating system links, aliases, 
or shortcuts in project-specific graphics folders for this purpose? 
The idea is that you can have project-specific directory structures 
that only contain links to the source graphics that are stored in a 
central location. Each project's graphics directory contains only 
the project's graphic links. FM files in each project refer to the 
link, not to the source.


I tried alising a graphic folder within a book folder in FrameMaker 
6 on Mac, but FrameMaker could not follow the link.

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Re: RE: Can't Open a FM File

2005-12-08 Thread John Posada

> I'd be interested to hear from those of you who 
> reference graphics about how hard it is (or isn't) 
> to keep track of the graphic files.

Not hard at all. First, I have a two or three letter prefix for each
book (HRP, Pub, DM, CPF, etc.). That prefix is included in the name
of every file and every graphic. All my files go in one one directory
and all my graphics go in a subdirectory off that file directory.

The vast majority of my screen shots are of web pages or parts of web
pages since I'm documenting a large HR portal. I name my graphics
with three elements; the project name, then the header title of the
screen, then the state of the screen. Use an underscore between
elements, never use spaces anywhere in the file name.

For instance, I have a project with the code HRP, then a GUI page
with the title "Login Pages", one showing a Login code window prior
to putting in the code and after the code is entered. Therefore, my
images have the following names:

HRP_LoginPages_BeforeLoginCode.gif
HRP_LoginPages_AfterLoginCode.gif

This my not work well for you, it does for me.

Different projects may require that I vary the naming conventions,
but the methodology is usualy the same.

John Posada
Senior Technical Writer

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Can't Open a FM File

2005-12-08 Thread John Posada

> I'd be interested to hear from those of you who 
> reference graphics about how hard it is (or isn't) 
> to keep track of the graphic files.

Not hard at all. First, I have a two or three letter prefix for each
book (HRP, Pub, DM, CPF, etc.). That prefix is included in the name
of every file and every graphic. All my files go in one one directory
and all my graphics go in a subdirectory off that file directory.

The vast majority of my screen shots are of web pages or parts of web
pages since I'm documenting a large HR portal. I name my graphics
with three elements; the project name, then the header title of the
screen, then the state of the screen. Use an underscore between
elements, never use spaces anywhere in the file name.

For instance, I have a project with the code HRP, then a GUI page
with the title "Login Pages", one showing a Login code window prior
to putting in the code and after the code is entered. Therefore, my
images have the following names:

HRP_LoginPages_BeforeLoginCode.gif
HRP_LoginPages_AfterLoginCode.gif

This my not work well for you, it does for me.

Different projects may require that I vary the naming conventions,
but the methodology is usualy the same.

John Posada
Senior Technical Writer

"Well, you have to know these things
 when you're king, you know." -
  --King Arthur of Camelot.

RE: Keeping track of graphics



Carla's point about using one graphic for all linked uses is the 
simplest. However, the single central folder of all graphics could be 
confusing.


Has anyone successfully employed operating system links, aliases, or 
shortcuts in project-specific graphics folders for this purpose? The 
idea is that you can have project-specific directory structures that 
only contain links to the source graphics that are stored in a 
central location. Each project's graphics directory contains only the 
project's graphic links. FM files in each project refer to the link, 
not to the source.


The advantages are fewer graphics (links) to manage for each project, 
and a single graphic source for multiple uses.


The disadvantage is setting it up and retraining authors to use the 
new approach.


I know that unix links are reliable, and that the reliable Macintosh 
aliases are not an option past FM 7.0. Is anyone using Windows 
shortcuts?


Regards,

Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices
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At 11:09 AM -0600 12/8/05, Martinek, Carla wrote:

We reference all graphics into our documents.  Currently we have a
couple of thousand graphics stored centrally in the same folder
location. While it can be a bit cumbersome to maintain that many
graphics in the same folder, it ends up helping us in the long run
because if a graphic is updated, it gets updated in *all* locations
where it is used.  Previously we had project-specific graphic folders,
and we found that the same graphic might be updated for one manual, but
not for another.

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Re: Can't Open a FM File

2005-12-08 Thread Dona Mommsen


Hi Pearl,

I once had a problem with a corrupted file, and there the heroic open  
didn't help, but opening it while suppressing the automatic update of  
references.

To open a document without updating references:
1.  Choose File > Open, and select the file you want to open.
2.  Do one of the following:
*   (Windows) Control-click Open.


Also, feel free to send me the file privately, I'll try if I'm able to  
open it (using Frame on Mac).


I'm keeping my graphics in a separate directory and have absolutely no  
problems with that.


Good luck.

Dona

On Dec 8, 2005, at 9:24 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Unfortunately this doesn't work either. I guess I'm going to have to
try to pull this info out of my memory and rewrite the chap again.

- Original Message -
From: Peter Gold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, December 8, 2005 9:41 am
Subject: Re: Can't Open a FM File


Hi, Pearl:

It's more likely a corrupt file than a memory issue.

Have you tried the "open heroic" method? In FM, tap and rekease
these
keys in sequence:

Escape
lowercase o
uppercase H

Then select the file in the Open dialog box. If it opens
successfully, save it immediately to a new name.

At 9:29 AM -0500 12/8/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Framers,

FM 7.0p578
Windows XP Professional
512 MB RAM

I hope somebody can help me open this file. When I try to open
it, FM tells me I do not have enough memory. The file is a
little under 2.7 MB, and there are larger FM files in the book

that FM

does open. I've tried closing everything and rebooting and then
opening only that file, but I get the same message.



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Can't Open a FM File

If you're setup for backup saves...have you tried opening the
*.backup.fm? 


Dominick A. DeFlorio
Senior Technical Writer
Plug Power, Inc.
968 Albany-Shaker Road
Latham, NY 12110
(518) 738-0389


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.com] On Behalf Of pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 9:30 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Can't Open a FM File

Hi Framers,

FM 7.0p578
Windows XP Professional
512 MB RAM

I hope somebody can help me open this file. When I try to open it, FM
tells me I do not have enough memory. The file is a little under 2.7 MB,
and there are larger FM files in the book that FM does open. I've tried
closing everything and rebooting and then opening only that file, but I
get the same message.

There are a lot of graphics in the file, and I suspect that is the
problem. If I could just open the file to get the text back, I could
work around the graphics (split the chap into two maybe). 

I've tried opening the file in Word, but it was garbage. I tried
converting it using a trial version of Mif2Go, but it converted all the
files in the book except the one I can't open. Also, I gave a copy to a
co-worker who has 1 GB of RAM, and he couldn't open it either.

Please, can somebody help? I put a lot of hard work into this chapter!

Thanks in advance for your help.
Pearl Rosenberg
TeleHealth Services


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Can't Open a FM File

Hi Framers,

FM 7.0p578
Windows XP Professional
512 MB RAM

I hope somebody can help me open this file. When I try to open 
it, FM tells me I do not have enough memory. The file is a 
little under 2.7 MB, and there are larger FM files in the book that FM 
does open. I've tried closing everything and rebooting and then 
opening only that file, but I get the same message.

There are a lot of graphics in the file, and I suspect that is the 
problem. If I could just open the file to get the text back, I could 
work around the graphics (split the chap into two maybe). 

I've tried opening the file in Word, but it was garbage. I tried 
converting it using a trial version of Mif2Go, but it converted all 
the files in the book except the one I can't open. Also, I gave a copy 
to a co-worker who has 1 GB of RAM, and he couldn't open it either.

Please, can somebody help? I put a lot of hard work into this chapter!

Thanks in advance for your help.
Pearl Rosenberg
TeleHealth Services

RE: Keeping track of graphics

2005-12-08 Thread Martinek, Carla

We reference all graphics into our documents.  Currently we have a
couple of thousand graphics stored centrally in the same folder
location. While it can be a bit cumbersome to maintain that many
graphics in the same folder, it ends up helping us in the long run
because if a graphic is updated, it gets updated in *all* locations
where it is used.  Previously we had project-specific graphic folders,
and we found that the same graphic might be updated for one manual, but
not for another.

We avoid naming files by document name or figure number because of the
reasons Bob Kern mentioned (if you insert one in the middle, what
happens to the numbering?).  Also, most graphics are used in multiple
locations, such as in the User Guide and in the Maintenance Manuals, so
the fig. numbering really didn't apply for all uses.

Instead, we set up a naming scheme that incorporates the product/s the
graphic is used for and a pre-defined set of procedural/descriptive
words.  It took some time on the front end for our graphics team to set
this up, but it seems to be working pretty well for the most part.

Also, if links are broken, there is only one folder to point to for
updating the path.

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Can't Open a FM File

Hi, Pearl:

It's more likely a corrupt file than a memory issue.

Have you tried the "open heroic" method? In FM, tap and rekease these 
keys in sequence:

Escape
lowercase o
uppercase H

Then select the file in the Open dialog box. If it opens 
successfully, save it immediately to a new name.

At 9:29 AM -0500 12/8/05, pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com wrote:
>Hi Framers,
>
>FM 7.0p578
>Windows XP Professional
>512 MB RAM
>
>I hope somebody can help me open this file. When I try to open
>it, FM tells me I do not have enough memory. The file is a
>little under 2.7 MB, and there are larger FM files in the book that FM
>does open. I've tried closing everything and rebooting and then
>opening only that file, but I get the same message.


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Keeping track of graphics

2005-12-08 Thread Robert Kern





Pearl,

We only reference graphics and don't have any trouble keeping track of
them (well, mostly no trouble). We name graphics according to their
figure number or use and UNF for un-numbered graphics.  The rub comes
when an author inserts a figure and all the figure numbers in the book
change --- you end up with actual figure numbers being different than
the figure number in the book, unless you renumber. Our books are done
by chapter, so the quantity of graphics is usually small enough that we
renumber to keep things in sync.  If the author adds a graphic its not
as bad: you just add an alpha to
the numbering scheme for the graphic (UNF1-1, UNF1-1b, UNF 1-2).

-bob
Robert Kern
President, TIPS Technical Publishing, Inc.
108 E. Main Street, Suite 4
Carrboro, NC  27510
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  Hi Dominick,

I do not reference my graphics, but this may be a good reason to do 
so. Altho having the graphics in the files makes them larger, I also 
thought it would be easier to manage the book without a directory of 
graphics.

I'd be interested to hear from those of you who reference graphics 
about how hard it is (or isn't) to keep track of the graphic files.

Pearl Rosenberg
TeleHealth Services

- Original Message -
From: "DeFlorio, Dominick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, December 8, 2005 10:28 am
Subject: RE: Can't Open a FM File

  
  
If it is hanging-up on a graphic, and you reference your graphics, 

  
  try
  
  
renaming the graphics folder.  If the file is not corrupt, Frame 
shouldopen the file and issue an error message.


Dominick A. DeFlorio
Senior Technical Writer
Plug Power, Inc.
968 Albany-Shaker Road
Latham, NY 12110
(518) 738-0389


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From:
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Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 10:25 AM
To: Peter Gold
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Can't Open a FM File

Unfortunately this doesn't work either. I guess I'm going to have 
to try
to pull this info out of my memory and rewrite the chap again. 

- Original Message -
From: Peter Gold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, December 8, 2005 9:41 am
Subject: Re: Can't Open a FM File



  Hi, Pearl:

It's more likely a corrupt file than a memory issue.

Have you tried the "open heroic" method? In FM, tap and rekease 
  

these 


  keys in sequence:

Escape
lowercase o
uppercase H

Then select the file in the Open dialog box. If it opens 
  

successfully,


  save it immediately to a new name.

At 9:29 AM -0500 12/8/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
Hi Framers,

FM 7.0p578
Windows XP Professional
512 MB RAM

I hope somebody can help me open this file. When I try to open 

  

it, FM



  
tells me I do not have enough memory. The file is a little 

  

under 2.7 


  
MB, and there are larger FM files in the book

  
  that FM
  
  
does open. I've tried closing everything and rebooting and then 
opening only that file, but I get the same message.

  
  
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Re: RE: Can't Open a FM File

Hi Dominick,

I do not reference my graphics, but this may be a good reason to do 
so. Altho having the graphics in the files makes them larger, I also 
thought it would be easier to manage the book without a directory of 
graphics.

I'd be interested to hear from those of you who reference graphics 
about how hard it is (or isn't) to keep track of the graphic files.

Pearl Rosenberg
TeleHealth Services

- Original Message -
From: "DeFlorio, Dominick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, December 8, 2005 10:28 am
Subject: RE: Can't Open a FM File

> If it is hanging-up on a graphic, and you reference your graphics, 
try
> renaming the graphics folder.  If the file is not corrupt, Frame 
> shouldopen the file and issue an error message.
> 
> 
> Dominick A. DeFlorio
> Senior Technical Writer
> Plug Power, Inc.
> 968 Albany-Shaker Road
> Latham, NY 12110
> (518) 738-0389
> 
> 
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> From:
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> Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: Can't Open a FM File
> 
> Unfortunately this doesn't work either. I guess I'm going to have 
> to try
> to pull this info out of my memory and rewrite the chap again. 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Peter Gold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thursday, December 8, 2005 9:41 am
> Subject: Re: Can't Open a FM File
> 
> > Hi, Pearl:
> > 
> > It's more likely a corrupt file than a memory issue.
> > 
> > Have you tried the "open heroic" method? In FM, tap and rekease 
> these 
> > keys in sequence:
> > 
> > Escape
> > lowercase o
> > uppercase H
> > 
> > Then select the file in the Open dialog box. If it opens 
> successfully,
> > save it immediately to a new name.
> > 
> > At 9:29 AM -0500 12/8/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >Hi Framers,
> > >
> > >FM 7.0p578
> > >Windows XP Professional
> > >512 MB RAM
> > >
> > >I hope somebody can help me open this file. When I try to open 
> it, FM
> 
> > >tells me I do not have enough memory. The file is a little 
> under 2.7 
> > >MB, and there are larger FM files in the book
> > that FM
> > >does open. I've tried closing everything and rebooting and then 
> > >opening only that file, but I get the same message.
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Peter Gold
> > 
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Re: RE: Can't Open a FM File

2005-12-08 Thread Donald M Rinderknecht

Has anyone else tried opening it for you on another machine?

Thanks,
Don.

Don Rinderknecht -- KD5MVV
Meteorologist Instructor/Developer ~ Warning Decision Training Branch$

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From: "Ridder, Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, December 8, 2005 9:57 am
Subject: RE: Can't Open a FM File

> While on the subject of .backup files, it is important to note 
> that 
> these are not real backups.  All that happens is that whn you do 
> a Save, FrameMaker renames the last manually saved version of 
> the file with a second extension (.backup) rather than marking it 
> as an unused file that the OS can reallocate. In other words, the 
> "backup" file is always one save behind the real working file,
> and the magnitude of the difference depends on how frequently
> you remember to do manual saves. 
> 
> My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
> Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
> Intel
> Parsippany, NJ
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:framers-
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> Behalf Of DeFlorio, Dominick
> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 9:33 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: Can't Open a FM File
> 
> If you're setup for backup saves...have you tried opening the
> *.backup.fm? 
> 
> 
> Dominick A. DeFlorio
> Senior Technical Writer
> Plug Power, Inc.
> 968 Albany-Shaker Road
> Latham, NY 12110
> (518) 738-0389
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From:
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> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Can't Open a FM File
> 
> Hi Framers,
> 
> FM 7.0p578
> Windows XP Professional
> 512 MB RAM
> 
> I hope somebody can help me open this file. When I try to open it, FM
> tells me I do not have enough memory. The file is a little under 
> 2.7 MB,
> and there are larger FM files in the book that FM does open. I've 
> triedclosing everything and rebooting and then opening only that 
> file, but I
> get the same message.
> 
> There are a lot of graphics in the file, and I suspect that is the
> problem. If I could just open the file to get the text back, I could
> work around the graphics (split the chap into two maybe). 
> 
> I've tried opening the file in Word, but it was garbage. I tried
> converting it using a trial version of Mif2Go, but it converted 
> all the
> files in the book except the one I can't open. Also, I gave a copy 
> to a
> co-worker who has 1 GB of RAM, and he couldn't open it either.
> 
> Please, can somebody help? I put a lot of hard work into this 
chapter!
> 
> Thanks in advance for your help.
> Pearl Rosenberg
> TeleHealth Services
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RE: Can't Open a FM File

 
True.  Fairly useless in this case, but since she sounded desperate, it
was worth a try...

Dominick A. DeFlorio
Senior Technical Writer
Plug Power, Inc.
968 Albany-Shaker Road
Latham, NY 12110
(518) 738-0389


-Original Message-
From: Ridder, Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 10:57 AM
To: DeFlorio, Dominick; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Can't Open a FM File

While on the subject of .backup files, it is important to note that
these are not real backups.  All that happens is that whn you do a Save,
FrameMaker renames the last manually saved version of the file with a
second extension (.backup) rather than marking it as an unused file that
the OS can reallocate. In other words, the "backup" file is always one
save behind the real working file, and the magnitude of the difference
depends on how frequently you remember to do manual saves. 

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com) Intel Parsippany, NJ



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Subject: RE: Can't Open a FM File

If you're setup for backup saves...have you tried opening the
*.backup.fm? 


Dominick A. DeFlorio
Senior Technical Writer
Plug Power, Inc.
968 Albany-Shaker Road
Latham, NY 12110
(518) 738-0389


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From:
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.com] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 9:30 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Can't Open a FM File

Hi Framers,

FM 7.0p578
Windows XP Professional
512 MB RAM

I hope somebody can help me open this file. When I try to open it, FM
tells me I do not have enough memory. The file is a little under 2.7 MB,
and there are larger FM files in the book that FM does open. I've tried
closing everything and rebooting and then opening only that file, but I
get the same message.

There are a lot of graphics in the file, and I suspect that is the
problem. If I could just open the file to get the text back, I could
work around the graphics (split the chap into two maybe). 

I've tried opening the file in Word, but it was garbage. I tried
converting it using a trial version of Mif2Go, but it converted all the
files in the book except the one I can't open. Also, I gave a copy to a
co-worker who has 1 GB of RAM, and he couldn't open it either.

Please, can somebody help? I put a lot of hard work into this chapter!

Thanks in advance for your help.
Pearl Rosenberg
TeleHealth Services
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RE: Can't Open a FM File

While on the subject of .backup files, it is important to note that 
these are not real backups.  All that happens is that whn you do 
a Save, FrameMaker renames the last manually saved version of 
the file with a second extension (.backup) rather than marking it 
as an unused file that the OS can reallocate. In other words, the 
"backup" file is always one save behind the real working file,
and the magnitude of the difference depends on how frequently
you remember to do manual saves. 

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



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Subject: RE: Can't Open a FM File

If you're setup for backup saves...have you tried opening the
*.backup.fm? 


Dominick A. DeFlorio
Senior Technical Writer
Plug Power, Inc.
968 Albany-Shaker Road
Latham, NY 12110
(518) 738-0389


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Subject: Can't Open a FM File

Hi Framers,

FM 7.0p578
Windows XP Professional
512 MB RAM

I hope somebody can help me open this file. When I try to open it, FM
tells me I do not have enough memory. The file is a little under 2.7 MB,
and there are larger FM files in the book that FM does open. I've tried
closing everything and rebooting and then opening only that file, but I
get the same message.

There are a lot of graphics in the file, and I suspect that is the
problem. If I could just open the file to get the text back, I could
work around the graphics (split the chap into two maybe). 

I've tried opening the file in Word, but it was garbage. I tried
converting it using a trial version of Mif2Go, but it converted all the
files in the book except the one I can't open. Also, I gave a copy to a
co-worker who has 1 GB of RAM, and he couldn't open it either.

Please, can somebody help? I put a lot of hard work into this chapter!

Thanks in advance for your help.
Pearl Rosenberg
TeleHealth Services
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RE: Can't Open a FM File

If it is hanging-up on a graphic, and you reference your graphics, try
renaming the graphics folder.  If the file is not corrupt, Frame should
open the file and issue an error message.


Dominick A. DeFlorio
Senior Technical Writer
Plug Power, Inc.
968 Albany-Shaker Road
Latham, NY 12110
(518) 738-0389


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Subject: Re: Can't Open a FM File

Unfortunately this doesn't work either. I guess I'm going to have to try
to pull this info out of my memory and rewrite the chap again. 

- Original Message -
From: Peter Gold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, December 8, 2005 9:41 am
Subject: Re: Can't Open a FM File

> Hi, Pearl:
> 
> It's more likely a corrupt file than a memory issue.
> 
> Have you tried the "open heroic" method? In FM, tap and rekease these 
> keys in sequence:
> 
> Escape
> lowercase o
> uppercase H
> 
> Then select the file in the Open dialog box. If it opens successfully,

> save it immediately to a new name.
> 
> At 9:29 AM -0500 12/8/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >Hi Framers,
> >
> >FM 7.0p578
> >Windows XP Professional
> >512 MB RAM
> >
> >I hope somebody can help me open this file. When I try to open it, FM

> >tells me I do not have enough memory. The file is a little under 2.7 
> >MB, and there are larger FM files in the book
> that FM
> >does open. I've tried closing everything and rebooting and then 
> >opening only that file, but I get the same message.
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Peter Gold
> 
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Re: Can't Open a FM File

Unfortunately this doesn't work either. I guess I'm going to have to 
try to pull this info out of my memory and rewrite the chap again. 

- Original Message -
From: Peter Gold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, December 8, 2005 9:41 am
Subject: Re: Can't Open a FM File

> Hi, Pearl:
> 
> It's more likely a corrupt file than a memory issue.
> 
> Have you tried the "open heroic" method? In FM, tap and rekease 
> these 
> keys in sequence:
> 
> Escape
> lowercase o
> uppercase H
> 
> Then select the file in the Open dialog box. If it opens 
> successfully, save it immediately to a new name.
> 
> At 9:29 AM -0500 12/8/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >Hi Framers,
> >
> >FM 7.0p578
> >Windows XP Professional
> >512 MB RAM
> >
> >I hope somebody can help me open this file. When I try to open
> >it, FM tells me I do not have enough memory. The file is a
> >little under 2.7 MB, and there are larger FM files in the book 
> that FM
> >does open. I've tried closing everything and rebooting and then
> >opening only that file, but I get the same message.
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Peter Gold
> 
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Re: RE: Can't Open a FM File

Yes. Unfortunately, the backup is the same.

- Original Message -
From: "DeFlorio, Dominick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, December 8, 2005 9:33 am
Subject: RE: Can't Open a FM File

> If you're setup for backup saves...have you tried opening the
> *.backup.fm? 
> 
> 
> Dominick A. DeFlorio
> Senior Technical Writer
> Plug Power, Inc.
> 968 Albany-Shaker Road
> Latham, NY 12110
> (518) 738-0389
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 9:30 AM
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Can't Open a FM File
> 
> Hi Framers,
> 
> FM 7.0p578
> Windows XP Professional
> 512 MB RAM
> 
> I hope somebody can help me open this file. When I try to open it, FM
> tells me I do not have enough memory. The file is a little under 
> 2.7 MB,
> and there are larger FM files in the book that FM does open. I've 
> triedclosing everything and rebooting and then opening only that 
> file, but I
> get the same message.
> 
> There are a lot of graphics in the file, and I suspect that is the
> problem. If I could just open the file to get the text back, I could
> work around the graphics (split the chap into two maybe). 
> 
> I've tried opening the file in Word, but it was garbage. I tried
> converting it using a trial version of Mif2Go, but it converted 
> all the
> files in the book except the one I can't open. Also, I gave a copy 
> to a
> co-worker who has 1 GB of RAM, and he couldn't open it either.
> 
> Please, can somebody help? I put a lot of hard work into this 
chapter!
> 
> Thanks in advance for your help.
> Pearl Rosenberg
> TeleHealth Services
> 
> 
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Re: cut off graphic

2005-12-08 Thread Yves Barbion





Right, Distiller Job Options (now known as "Adobe PDF Settings") is one
instance where you can set the resolution.

But you also find it in the properties of your Adobe PDF printer driver
instance. If I may quote the great Dov Isaacs:

"Properties => General (tab) => Printing Preferences ... (button)
=> Layout (tab) => Advanced (button)

    Open trees and make sure that the following are set
    (other options leave at original default settings):

        Graphic => Print Quality => 600dpi

        Why? Gets around known Windows 2000/XP GDI bug associated
        with large point size & high resolution text being converted
        to outlines. Also gets around FrameMaker bug associated with
        higher resolution settings in combination with large page sizes
        (similar bug in other applications as well). Using this setting
        does not restrict the resolution at which the PDF file can
        print and has no known bad effects."


Best regards

Yves Barbion 
Technical Writer
Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor


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Ridder, Fred wrote:

  
  
  The most common cause of this
behavior is using too 
  high a resolution.  Look in
the Distiller job options to
  see what resolution you are
using. If it is 1200 or higher,
  try using a lower setting or a
different set of job options
  that uses a lower resolution.
   
  
  My opinions only;
I don't speak for Intel. 
  Fred Ridder (fred
dot ridder at intel dot com) 
  Staff Information
Services Analyst 
  Intel 
  Parsippany, NJ
  
  
  
  

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Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 9:43 AM
To: Framers
Subject: cut off graphic



I have a
graphic from a JPEG, that displays well in the FrameMaker file, but is
cut off in the PDF file (frame 6, acrobat version 7) (either the bottom
or top is missing when I create the PDF)
Can anyone guess why,
and say how to fix it?
 


Caroline Tabach
MarCom RADCOM
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  
  

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RE: cut off graphic




The most common cause of this behavior is using too 

high a resolution.  Look in the Distiller job options 
to
see what resolution you are using. If it is 1200 or 
higher,
try using a lower setting or a different set of job 
options
that uses a lower resolution.
 

My opinions only; I don't speak 
for Intel. Fred 
Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com) Staff Information Services 
Analyst Intel Parsippany, NJ 

  
  
  From: 
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
  Behalf Of Caroline TabachSent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 9:43 
  AMTo: FramersSubject: cut off 
  graphic
  
  
  I have a graphic from a 
  JPEG, that displays well in the FrameMaker file, but is cut off in the PDF 
  file (frame 6, acrobat version 7) (either the bottom or top is missing when I 
  create the PDF)
  Can anyone guess why, and say how to fix 
  it?
   
  
  Caroline Tabach
  MarCom RADCOM
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2005-12-08 Thread Caroline Tabach



I have a graphic from a JPEG, 
that displays well in the FrameMaker file, but is cut off in the PDF file (frame 
6, acrobat version 7) (either the bottom or top is missing when I create the 
PDF)
Can anyone guess why, and say how to fix 
it?
 

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MarCom RADCOM
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Re: Can't Open a FM File


Hi, Pearl:

It's more likely a corrupt file than a memory issue.

Have you tried the "open heroic" method? In FM, tap and rekease these 
keys in sequence:


Escape
lowercase o
uppercase H

Then select the file in the Open dialog box. If it opens 
successfully, save it immediately to a new name.


At 9:29 AM -0500 12/8/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Framers,

FM 7.0p578
Windows XP Professional
512 MB RAM

I hope somebody can help me open this file. When I try to open
it, FM tells me I do not have enough memory. The file is a
little under 2.7 MB, and there are larger FM files in the book that FM
does open. I've tried closing everything and rebooting and then
opening only that file, but I get the same message.



--

Regards,

Peter Gold
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

KnowHow ProServices

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RE: Can't Open a FM File

If you're setup for backup saves...have you tried opening the
*.backup.fm? 


Dominick A. DeFlorio
Senior Technical Writer
Plug Power, Inc.
968 Albany-Shaker Road
Latham, NY 12110
(518) 738-0389


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Subject: Can't Open a FM File

Hi Framers,

FM 7.0p578
Windows XP Professional
512 MB RAM

I hope somebody can help me open this file. When I try to open it, FM
tells me I do not have enough memory. The file is a little under 2.7 MB,
and there are larger FM files in the book that FM does open. I've tried
closing everything and rebooting and then opening only that file, but I
get the same message.

There are a lot of graphics in the file, and I suspect that is the
problem. If I could just open the file to get the text back, I could
work around the graphics (split the chap into two maybe). 

I've tried opening the file in Word, but it was garbage. I tried
converting it using a trial version of Mif2Go, but it converted all the
files in the book except the one I can't open. Also, I gave a copy to a
co-worker who has 1 GB of RAM, and he couldn't open it either.

Please, can somebody help? I put a lot of hard work into this chapter!

Thanks in advance for your help.
Pearl Rosenberg
TeleHealth Services


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