'Bold' not inserted in Character Formats

2006-05-28 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
Thank you all for replying. It is nice not to be the only one
experiencing this problem! We have a weird saying in Iceland that goes
something like this transposed (rather than translated) into English:
"Sweet is a shared shipwreck".

Like you mention, the ATM seemed to do a better job of controlling the
fonts this way (ATM Light was included with the registration too).

I will have a look at the [Fonts] section of the maker.ini and see
what I come up with.

And maybe Adobe and the Redmond giant need once more to go into some
talks about how to handle fonts? This used to be OK, but now we have
had a couple of years of SP2 and endless automatic upgrades. Maybe one
of these have done something to harm the beautiflul relationship of
the two?

Bodvar

On 5/26/06, Combs, Richard  wrote:
> Martha J Davidson wrote:
>
> > At 04:57 AM 5/26/2006, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson wrote:
> > >I have a weird problem on my hands, and I probably have had it for a
> > >long time (years). I have a problem with setting some of my
> > Character
> > >Tags to bold. I am not sure whether it is isolated to the Helvetica
> > >font, but this is how it goes:
> >
> > I have seen this as well. In my current template, body tags
> > use AGaramond. I have a character tag set to As Is, and then Bold.
> > When I apply this tag to body text, nothing happens. When I
> > make a tag that explicitly references AGaramond Bold, then I
> > get bold text, but not when I use a more generically defined tag.
>
> I think in both cases, FM sees the boldface version as a separate font
> instead of a weight variation. I'm surprised that it's happening with
> plain vanilla Helvetica, although I recall it happening years ago with
> the Helvetica Neue family -- each different weight appeared as a
> separate font (Helvetica 45 and Helvetica 65 were two of them, IIRC).
>
> You may be able to solve this with the appropriate additions to the
> [Fonts] section of maker.ini. We use Adobe's OpenType Futura, and had
> the same problem. Adding the following lines to the
> [WindowsToFrameFontAliases] section of maker.ini seemed to solve the
> problem:
>
> Futura Std Medium, Regular, Regular=FuturaStd-Medium, Regular, Regular,
> *
> Futura Std Medium, Italic, Regular=FuturaStd-Medium, Oblique, Regular, *
> Futura Std Medium, Regular, Bold=FuturaStd-Heavy, Regular, Regular, *
> Futura Std Medium, Italic, Bold=FuturaStd-Heavy, Oblique, Regular, *
>
> Of course, figuring out exactly what to add can be problematic. I recall
> there was some trial and error, and ATM Deluxe was essential to figuring
> out the "Frame font name" (the right side of the = sign).
>
> The [UnknownToKnownFontMap] section may be another area to explore. I
> recall that we used to use it to map AvantGarde SemiBold to AvantGarde
> DemiBold (or vice versa).
>
> Unfortunately, the arcane details of how the fonts entries in maker.ini
> work don't seem to be documented anywhere (beyond the inadequate
> comments in the file), so such vague hints are about all I can offer.
>
> If you're in luck, someone who's solved the same problem with the same
> fonts will chime in with the exact fix. :-) (If not, and if you all
> figure it out, be sure to post the solution for the benefit of the next
> person.)
>
> Good luck!
> Richard
>
>
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> Polycom, Inc.
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> 303-223-5111
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Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator

2006-05-28 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
I am not sure what you mean by cleaning up graphics. If you mean
mainly the scaling and setting the pixelation, The GIMP
(http://www.gimp.org) is a free (as in speech and as in beer)
alternative, and it you can get with it a very good, free handbook,
help files etc. The only downside is that The GIMP does not support
CMYK (4-color separation).

However ther is a plugin that can handle these and, of course you can
send a RGB uncompressed TIFF file for CMYK adaption at the printshop
etc.

With Photoshop and FM under Windoze, you would have to, as so  many
times explained on this list, save the CMYK Photoshop file as ESP and
import the ESP into FM for the CMYK not to be changed into RGB by
Windoze/FM.

I find it easier to use The GIMP to "clean up" my screen shots, photos
etc. than PhotoShop and I have the CS.

What I am using the most out of the CS suite is Illustrator (logoes,
various vector drawings) and InDesign.

One of the main practical differences between bitmap and vector is
that vector is fully scalable, since it is a collection of commands on
e. g. where to start a line, where to end it and whether it is a
straight line, arc, etc., much like a PostScript font, whereas the
bitmap is not talking about lines or fills (even though the bitmap
application may do that -- PhotoShop etc) but is just a collection of
bits in a given two-dimentional area in a certain order, much as you
see on your screen, and therefore, scaling will in most cases mean a
certain distortion of the image.

Bodvar Bjorgvinsson


On 5/26/06, Joe Malin  wrote:
> My $.02
>
> Cleaning up graphics is one of Photoshop's target tasks. If you have the
> money, Photoshop is the way to go.
>
> Creative Suite is worth the price, since it includes Photoshop,
> Illustrator, *and* Acrobat Pro.
>
> You will find that any sufficiently powerful bitmap editing application
> is difficult to use. More power usually means more options, which in
> turn means more ways to accidentally do something wrong! Fortunately,
> Photoshop is one of the world's most popular packages, so all sorts of
> help is available.
>
> Does everyone understand the difference between vector and bitmap
> graphics? I can elaborate if necessary.
>
> Joe
>
>
> Joe Malin
> Technical Writer
> (408)625-1623
> jmalin at tuvox.com
> www.tuvox.com
> The views expressed in this document are those of the sender, and do not
> necessarily reflect those of TuVox, Inc.
>



What do you use for PDF Generation?

2006-05-28 Thread Shlomo Perets
Fred,

You wrote (in response to Rebecca Officer's message):

>That hit count is deceptive because of the way the search was
>specified. The search returns all pages that include the word
>"Document" or the word "Settings", not just the ones that have
>inappropriate metadata strings.
>
>Use the search specification
> "Documents and Settings" +pdf
>for a more relevant search result. (A quick visual scan of a
>hundred or so result listings showed that all of them included
>a pathname that included the user's login name, which was not
>the case with the broader search.) But even this narrower search
>returns more than 2 million hits, including more than 200,000
>documents that deal with some aspect of computer security!


Thanks for your clarification!  I updated the search phrase so that it 
yields less results.
I actually did not pay attention to the specific number of millions... When 
I see so many hits I assume that many thousands (at least) of files serve 
well to demonstrate the point, after irrelevant hits are ignored.

In any case, this is just one possible search string out of several. 
Additional variations include:
C:\Docume~
C:\Program Files\
Printing C:\
Print Preview - C:\
(with different drives) etc.

These variations depend on the specific PDF creation route used (authoring 
tools, drivers, settings), and show that file path may be added to PDFs 
even when no metadata is added explicitly (and even when simply printing to 
.ps).

My recommendation is therefore to always check/adjust the document 
properties of the PDF file before distributing it, regardless of how the 
PDF is created.


Shlomo Perets

MicroType, http://www.microtype.com
Training, consulting & add-ons: FrameMaker, Structured FM and Acrobat






Israeli FrameMaker user group meeting (FrameScript) -- July 4, Kfar Saba

2006-05-28 Thread Shlomo Perets
Next meeting of the FrameMaker user group will be held Tuesday, July 4, in 
Kfar Saba, focusing on FrameScript
(thanks to NICE Systems for hosting this meeting and to Benjy Vulfson for 
arranging it!)

Topics include:

* FrameScript: Overview  -- Shlomo Perets

* FrameScript Day-by-Day -- David Schor
Examples of scripts which, by reducing steps and repetitions, drastically 
reduce labor time in FrameMaker projects

* Using FrameScript to Automate the Generation of a Data Book or 
Catalogue  -- Paul Schnall
A case study


Admission is free; registration is required.

To join the Israeli FrameMaker user group, please write to 
mailto:Framers_Israel at microtype.com



Shlomo Perets

MicroType, http://www.microtype.com
Training, consulting & add-ons: FrameMaker, Structured FM and Acrobat





Re: 'Bold' not inserted in Character Formats

2006-05-28 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson

Thank you all for replying. It is nice not to be the only one
experiencing this problem! We have a weird saying in Iceland that goes
something like this transposed (rather than translated) into English:
"Sweet is a shared shipwreck".

Like you mention, the ATM seemed to do a better job of controlling the
fonts this way (ATM Light was included with the registration too).

I will have a look at the [Fonts] section of the maker.ini and see
what I come up with.

And maybe Adobe and the Redmond giant need once more to go into some
talks about how to handle fonts? This used to be OK, but now we have
had a couple of years of SP2 and endless automatic upgrades. Maybe one
of these have done something to harm the beautiflul relationship of
the two?

Bodvar

On 5/26/06, Combs, Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Martha J Davidson wrote:

> At 04:57 AM 5/26/2006, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson wrote:
> >I have a weird problem on my hands, and I probably have had it for a
> >long time (years). I have a problem with setting some of my
> Character
> >Tags to bold. I am not sure whether it is isolated to the Helvetica
> >font, but this is how it goes:
>
> I have seen this as well. In my current template, body tags
> use AGaramond. I have a character tag set to As Is, and then Bold.
> When I apply this tag to body text, nothing happens. When I
> make a tag that explicitly references AGaramond Bold, then I
> get bold text, but not when I use a more generically defined tag.

I think in both cases, FM sees the boldface version as a separate font
instead of a weight variation. I'm surprised that it's happening with
plain vanilla Helvetica, although I recall it happening years ago with
the Helvetica Neue family -- each different weight appeared as a
separate font (Helvetica 45 and Helvetica 65 were two of them, IIRC).

You may be able to solve this with the appropriate additions to the
[Fonts] section of maker.ini. We use Adobe's OpenType Futura, and had
the same problem. Adding the following lines to the
[WindowsToFrameFontAliases] section of maker.ini seemed to solve the
problem:

Futura Std Medium, Regular, Regular=FuturaStd-Medium, Regular, Regular,
*
Futura Std Medium, Italic, Regular=FuturaStd-Medium, Oblique, Regular, *
Futura Std Medium, Regular, Bold=FuturaStd-Heavy, Regular, Regular, *
Futura Std Medium, Italic, Bold=FuturaStd-Heavy, Oblique, Regular, *

Of course, figuring out exactly what to add can be problematic. I recall
there was some trial and error, and ATM Deluxe was essential to figuring
out the "Frame font name" (the right side of the = sign).

The [UnknownToKnownFontMap] section may be another area to explore. I
recall that we used to use it to map AvantGarde SemiBold to AvantGarde
DemiBold (or vice versa).

Unfortunately, the arcane details of how the fonts entries in maker.ini
work don't seem to be documented anywhere (beyond the inadequate
comments in the file), so such vague hints are about all I can offer.

If you're in luck, someone who's solved the same problem with the same
fonts will chime in with the exact fix. :-) (If not, and if you all
figure it out, be sure to post the solution for the benefit of the next
person.)

Good luck!
Richard


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Polycom, Inc.
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Re: Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator

2006-05-28 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson

I am not sure what you mean by cleaning up graphics. If you mean
mainly the scaling and setting the pixelation, The GIMP
(http://www.gimp.org) is a free (as in speech and as in beer)
alternative, and it you can get with it a very good, free handbook,
help files etc. The only downside is that The GIMP does not support
CMYK (4-color separation).

However ther is a plugin that can handle these and, of course you can
send a RGB uncompressed TIFF file for CMYK adaption at the printshop
etc.

With Photoshop and FM under Windoze, you would have to, as so  many
times explained on this list, save the CMYK Photoshop file as ESP and
import the ESP into FM for the CMYK not to be changed into RGB by
Windoze/FM.

I find it easier to use The GIMP to "clean up" my screen shots, photos
etc. than PhotoShop and I have the CS.

What I am using the most out of the CS suite is Illustrator (logoes,
various vector drawings) and InDesign.

One of the main practical differences between bitmap and vector is
that vector is fully scalable, since it is a collection of commands on
e. g. where to start a line, where to end it and whether it is a
straight line, arc, etc., much like a PostScript font, whereas the
bitmap is not talking about lines or fills (even though the bitmap
application may do that -- PhotoShop etc) but is just a collection of
bits in a given two-dimentional area in a certain order, much as you
see on your screen, and therefore, scaling will in most cases mean a
certain distortion of the image.

Bodvar Bjorgvinsson


On 5/26/06, Joe Malin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

My $.02

Cleaning up graphics is one of Photoshop's target tasks. If you have the
money, Photoshop is the way to go.

Creative Suite is worth the price, since it includes Photoshop,
Illustrator, *and* Acrobat Pro.

You will find that any sufficiently powerful bitmap editing application
is difficult to use. More power usually means more options, which in
turn means more ways to accidentally do something wrong! Fortunately,
Photoshop is one of the world's most popular packages, so all sorts of
help is available.

Does everyone understand the difference between vector and bitmap
graphics? I can elaborate if necessary.

Joe


Joe Malin
Technical Writer
(408)625-1623
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.tuvox.com
The views expressed in this document are those of the sender, and do not
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What do you use for PDF Generation?

2006-05-28 Thread Shlomo Perets
Dov Isaacs wrote:

>... By the way, when dealing with Wurd documents, even with
>PDF, be very careful that the "properties" don't migrate
>to the PDF file. When you use the PDFMaker facility of
>Acrobat some of that information in the Wurd document
>does make its way into the "Description" part of
>"Document Properties"  !


An Adobe Technical Note I saw a while ago had a similar recommendation (= 
turn off "Convert Document Information" in PDFMaker).

I disagree with this recommendation;  more in this month's Hmmm..., 
http://www.microtype.com/Hmmm.html
("Why bother learning how to use a feature, if you can simply disable it?")


Shlomo Perets

MicroType, http://www.microtype.com
Training, consulting & add-ons: FrameMaker, Structured FM and Acrobat






What do you use for PDF Generation?

2006-05-28 Thread Ridder, Fred
That hit count is deceptive because of the way the search was 
specified. The search returns all pages that include the word 
"Document" or the word "Settings", not just the ones that have
inappropriate metadata strings. 

Use the search specification
"Documents and Settings" +pdf  
for a more relevant search result. (A quick visual scan of a 
hundred or so result listings showed that all of them included 
a pathname that included the user's login name, which was not
the case with the broader search.) But even this narrower search 
returns more than 2 million hits, including more than 200,000
documents that deal with some aspect of computer security!

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ


-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of rebecca officer
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 8:03 AM
To: Framers at FrameUsers.com; shlomo2 at microtype.com
Subject: Re: What do you use for PDF Generation?

Good grief - that google search for "Documents and Settings\
filetype:pdf" has 14 million hits!! Is there anything you can do to stop
Word doing that when you print direct to Distiller?

Cheers, Rebecca

>>> Shlomo Perets  05/28/06 10:56 PM >>>
Dov Isaacs wrote:

>... By the way, when dealing with Wurd documents, even with
>PDF, be very careful that the "properties" don't migrate
>to the PDF file. When you use the PDFMaker facility of
>Acrobat some of that information in the Wurd document
>does make its way into the "Description" part of
>"Document Properties"  !


An Adobe Technical Note I saw a while ago had a similar recommendation
(= 
turn off "Convert Document Information" in PDFMaker).

I disagree with this recommendation;  more in this month's Hmmm..., 
http://www.microtype.com/Hmmm.html
("Why bother learning how to use a feature, if you can simply disable
it?")


Shlomo Perets

MicroType, http://www.microtype.com
Training, consulting & add-ons: FrameMaker, Structured FM and Acrobat



Re: What do you use for PDF Generation?

2006-05-28 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain

Hi, Fred.

Ouch! This is exactly the reason (information inside files) that I
started this set of questions in the first place! We wanted to avoid
a problem with inadvertent hidden content in a Word or Excel file
that somebody here sent out of the company.

I was hoping that PDF would prevent it, but learned that I needed to
do something extra to prevent it! At least this info is automatically
not present in the PDF if I disable the item as suggested. In Word,
we not have such controls, as far as I know, and asking users to all
remember to change the properties, etc., is not going to work. Too
easy to forget!

So, sorry, Shlomo, I'd much rather live without the "feature" than
have such problems occur! :)

Z

Ridder, Fred wrote:
That hit count is deceptive because of the way the search was 
specified. The search returns all pages that include the word 
"Document" or the word "Settings", not just the ones that have
inappropriate metadata strings. 


Use the search specification
"Documents and Settings" +pdf  
for a more relevant search result. (A quick visual scan of a 
hundred or so result listings showed that all of them included 
a pathname that included the user's login name, which was not
the case with the broader search.) But even this narrower search 
returns more than 2 million hits, including more than 200,000

documents that deal with some aspect of computer security!

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of rebecca officer
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 8:03 AM
To: Framers@FrameUsers.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: What do you use for PDF Generation?

Good grief - that google search for "Documents and Settings\
filetype:pdf" has 14 million hits!! Is there anything you can do to stop
Word doing that when you print direct to Distiller?

Cheers, Rebecca


Shlomo Perets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 05/28/06 10:56 PM >>>

Dov Isaacs wrote:


... By the way, when dealing with Wurd documents, even with
PDF, be very careful that the "properties" don't migrate
to the PDF file. When you use the PDFMaker facility of
Acrobat some of that information in the Wurd document
does make its way into the "Description" part of
"Document Properties"  !



An Adobe Technical Note I saw a while ago had a similar recommendation
(= 
turn off "Convert Document Information" in PDFMaker).


I disagree with this recommendation;  more in this month's Hmmm..., 
http://www.microtype.com/Hmmm.html

("Why bother learning how to use a feature, if you can simply disable
it?")


Shlomo Perets

MicroType, http://www.microtype.com
Training, consulting & add-ons: FrameMaker, Structured FM and Acrobat
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What do you use for PDF Generation?

2006-05-28 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain
Hi, Fred.

Ouch! This is exactly the reason (information inside files) that I
started this set of questions in the first place! We wanted to avoid
a problem with inadvertent hidden content in a Word or Excel file
that somebody here sent out of the company.

I was hoping that PDF would prevent it, but learned that I needed to
do something extra to prevent it! At least this info is automatically
not present in the PDF if I disable the item as suggested. In Word,
we not have such controls, as far as I know, and asking users to all
remember to change the properties, etc., is not going to work. Too
easy to forget!

So, sorry, Shlomo, I'd much rather live without the "feature" than
have such problems occur! :)

Z

Ridder, Fred wrote:
> That hit count is deceptive because of the way the search was 
> specified. The search returns all pages that include the word 
> "Document" or the word "Settings", not just the ones that have
> inappropriate metadata strings. 
> 
> Use the search specification
> "Documents and Settings" +pdf  
> for a more relevant search result. (A quick visual scan of a 
> hundred or so result listings showed that all of them included 
> a pathname that included the user's login name, which was not
> the case with the broader search.) But even this narrower search 
> returns more than 2 million hits, including more than 200,000
> documents that deal with some aspect of computer security!
> 
> My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
> Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
> Intel
> Parsippany, NJ
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
> Behalf Of rebecca officer
> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 8:03 AM
> To: Framers at FrameUsers.com; shlomo2 at microtype.com
> Subject: Re: What do you use for PDF Generation?
> 
> Good grief - that google search for "Documents and Settings\
> filetype:pdf" has 14 million hits!! Is there anything you can do to stop
> Word doing that when you print direct to Distiller?
> 
> Cheers, Rebecca
> 
 Shlomo Perets  05/28/06 10:56 PM >>>
> Dov Isaacs wrote:
> 
>> ... By the way, when dealing with Wurd documents, even with
>> PDF, be very careful that the "properties" don't migrate
>> to the PDF file. When you use the PDFMaker facility of
>> Acrobat some of that information in the Wurd document
>> does make its way into the "Description" part of
>> "Document Properties"  !
> 
> 
> An Adobe Technical Note I saw a while ago had a similar recommendation
> (= 
> turn off "Convert Document Information" in PDFMaker).
> 
> I disagree with this recommendation;  more in this month's Hmmm..., 
> http://www.microtype.com/Hmmm.html
> ("Why bother learning how to use a feature, if you can simply disable
> it?")
> 
> 
> Shlomo Perets
> 
> MicroType, http://www.microtype.com
> Training, consulting & add-ons: FrameMaker, Structured FM and Acrobat
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RE: What do you use for PDF Generation?

2006-05-28 Thread Shlomo Perets

Fred,

You wrote (in response to Rebecca Officer's message):


That hit count is deceptive because of the way the search was
specified. The search returns all pages that include the word
"Document" or the word "Settings", not just the ones that have
inappropriate metadata strings.

Use the search specification
"Documents and Settings" +pdf
for a more relevant search result. (A quick visual scan of a
hundred or so result listings showed that all of them included
a pathname that included the user's login name, which was not
the case with the broader search.) But even this narrower search
returns more than 2 million hits, including more than 200,000
documents that deal with some aspect of computer security!



Thanks for your clarification!  I updated the search phrase so that it 
yields less results.
I actually did not pay attention to the specific number of millions... When 
I see so many hits I assume that many thousands (at least) of files serve 
well to demonstrate the point, after irrelevant hits are ignored.


In any case, this is just one possible search string out of several. 
Additional variations include:

C:\Docume~
C:\Program Files\
Printing C:\
Print Preview - C:\
(with different drives) etc.

These variations depend on the specific PDF creation route used (authoring 
tools, drivers, settings), and show that file path may be added to PDFs 
even when no metadata is added explicitly (and even when simply printing to 
.ps).


My recommendation is therefore to always check/adjust the document 
properties of the PDF file before distributing it, regardless of how the 
PDF is created.



Shlomo Perets

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RE: What do you use for PDF Generation?

2006-05-28 Thread Ridder, Fred
That hit count is deceptive because of the way the search was 
specified. The search returns all pages that include the word 
"Document" or the word "Settings", not just the ones that have
inappropriate metadata strings. 

Use the search specification
"Documents and Settings" +pdf  
for a more relevant search result. (A quick visual scan of a 
hundred or so result listings showed that all of them included 
a pathname that included the user's login name, which was not
the case with the broader search.) But even this narrower search 
returns more than 2 million hits, including more than 200,000
documents that deal with some aspect of computer security!

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ


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Good grief - that google search for "Documents and Settings\
filetype:pdf" has 14 million hits!! Is there anything you can do to stop
Word doing that when you print direct to Distiller?

Cheers, Rebecca

>>> Shlomo Perets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 05/28/06 10:56 PM >>>
Dov Isaacs wrote:

>... By the way, when dealing with Wurd documents, even with
>PDF, be very careful that the "properties" don't migrate
>to the PDF file. When you use the PDFMaker facility of
>Acrobat some of that information in the Wurd document
>does make its way into the "Description" part of
>"Document Properties"  !


An Adobe Technical Note I saw a while ago had a similar recommendation
(= 
turn off "Convert Document Information" in PDFMaker).

I disagree with this recommendation;  more in this month's Hmmm..., 
http://www.microtype.com/Hmmm.html
("Why bother learning how to use a feature, if you can simply disable
it?")


Shlomo Perets

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Re: What do you use for PDF Generation?

2006-05-28 Thread rebecca officer
Good grief - that google search for "Documents and Settings\ filetype:pdf" has 
14 million hits!! Is there anything you can do to stop Word doing that when you 
print direct to Distiller?

Cheers, Rebecca

>>> Shlomo Perets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 05/28/06 10:56 PM >>>
Dov Isaacs wrote:

>... By the way, when dealing with Wurd documents, even with
>PDF, be very careful that the "properties" don't migrate
>to the PDF file. When you use the PDFMaker facility of
>Acrobat some of that information in the Wurd document
>does make its way into the "Description" part of
>"Document Properties"  !


An Adobe Technical Note I saw a while ago had a similar recommendation (= 
turn off "Convert Document Information" in PDFMaker).

I disagree with this recommendation;  more in this month's Hmmm..., 
http://www.microtype.com/Hmmm.html
("Why bother learning how to use a feature, if you can simply disable it?")


Shlomo Perets

MicroType, http://www.microtype.com
Training, consulting & add-ons: FrameMaker, Structured FM and Acrobat



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Israeli FrameMaker user group meeting (FrameScript) -- July 4, Kfar Saba

2006-05-28 Thread Shlomo Perets
Next meeting of the FrameMaker user group will be held Tuesday, July 4, in 
Kfar Saba, focusing on FrameScript
(thanks to NICE Systems for hosting this meeting and to Benjy Vulfson for 
arranging it!)


Topics include:

* FrameScript: Overview  -- Shlomo Perets

* FrameScript Day-by-Day -- David Schor
Examples of scripts which, by reducing steps and repetitions, drastically 
reduce labor time in FrameMaker projects


* Using FrameScript to Automate the Generation of a Data Book or 
Catalogue  -- Paul Schnall

A case study


Admission is free; registration is required.

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Shlomo Perets

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Re: What do you use for PDF Generation?

2006-05-28 Thread Shlomo Perets

Dov Isaacs wrote:


... By the way, when dealing with Wurd documents, even with
PDF, be very careful that the "properties" don't migrate
to the PDF file. When you use the PDFMaker facility of
Acrobat some of that information in the Wurd document
does make its way into the "Description" part of
"Document Properties"  !



An Adobe Technical Note I saw a while ago had a similar recommendation (= 
turn off "Convert Document Information" in PDFMaker).


I disagree with this recommendation;  more in this month's Hmmm..., 
http://www.microtype.com/Hmmm.html

("Why bother learning how to use a feature, if you can simply disable it?")


Shlomo Perets

MicroType, http://www.microtype.com
Training, consulting & add-ons: FrameMaker, Structured FM and Acrobat



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