RE: Deleting color definitions

[Ridder, Fred]

Well, if they are spurious colors with names like 
RGB Color 255, 255, 255, saving the file to MIF and then 
re-opening it in FrameMaker (or using the Wash via MIF
command that comes with the Mif2Go tool) will scrub them
out in one operation. But if they are real color definitions, I 
think you may be stuck with the one-at-a-time method or
seeing if it can be scripted via FrameScript.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ


 

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Subject: Deleting color definitions

Is there an easy way to delete multiple color definitions? I am working
with a legacy file that has about 50 color definitions in it and they
are completely useless. I want to get the file down to about 10. I tried
to delete them in the Color Definitions dialog but you can only delete
them one at a time there.
 

Thanks,

Gillian Flato

Technical Writer (Software)

NANOmetrics, Inc.

1550 Buckeye Dr.

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Logitech NuLOOQ?

[Steve Rickaby]

Has anyone tried to configure one of these things for use with FrameMaker? If 
so, was it useful?

http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/nulooq/home/US/EN,crid=2600,categoryid=499

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Re: A Plugin for scrubbing files before localization

[Steve Rickaby]

At 15:29 -0700 23/8/06, John Posada wrote:

My question has to do with seeming to remember a plugin that did
this. Does anything about this sound familiar?

John: Steve Kubis' (SiliconPrairie) paragraph and character tools plug-ins both 
have a 'remove unused tags' command. His new table tools plug-in has the 
matching command for tables. All are very cheap, and I'd not be without them 
for the world.

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RE: Table heading rows

[Mike Feimster]

If you're using structured Frame, you can insert a Table-Heading (or
whatever you've called it) element and drag the body row into the
heading element.

Mike

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Subject: Table heading rows

How do you convert a table row into a table heading row? In the top row
of my table, when I highlight the row, it says Body cells, instead of
Heading cells like the top rows in other tables. How do I convert the
row, or how do I add a heading row above it. 
 
It's probably a really simple answer but I am just blanking out on how
to do it.
 
 

Thanks,

Gillian Flato

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Re: Deleting color definitions

[Stuart Rogers]

Ridder, Fred wrote:
Well, if they are spurious colors with names like 
RGB Color 255, 255, 255, saving the file to MIF and then 
re-opening it in FrameMaker (or using the Wash via MIF

command that comes with the Mif2Go tool) will scrub them
out in one operation. But if they are real color definitions, I 
think you may be stuck with the one-at-a-time method or

seeing if it can be scripted via FrameScript.



...or you could save the file as MIF and open it in a text editor. Then 
delete the colour definitions, which appear all together near the top of 
the mif. Save, close, reopen in FM.


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Distiller Error Message

[Jennifer Randel]

Hi all, 
I have been sucessfully creating PDFs from FrameMaker today, but all of
a sudden, I try to create one and I it Distiller can't produce it. I've
tried changing the Default Settings to see if there was a problem with
one of the settings, but I get the same message regardless of selected
setting. 

I'm using FM v 6.0, Distiller v 7.0, and am using the Adobe PDF printer.


Thank you, 
Jennifer 

**Here's the distiller message: 

Acrobat Distiller 7.0
Started: Thursday, August 24, 2006 at 12:35:00

Adobe PostScript software version: 3016.102
CID support library initialization completed.

Start Time: Thursday, August 24, 2006 at 12:35:17
Source: FINASB menu2.ps
Destination: My Documents\FINASB menu2.pdf
Adobe PDF Settings: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\Adobe
PDF\Settings\Standard.joboptions
%%[ ProductName: Distiller ]%%
%%[Page: 1]%%
%%[Page: 45]%%
%%[ Error: ioerror; OffendingCommand: imageDistiller ]%%

Stack:
-dict-

%%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%%
%%[ Warning: PostScript error. No PDF file produced. ] %%
Distill Time: 39 seconds (00:00:39)
 End of Job 

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Re: Plugin to cleanout unused elements (resend)

[eric . dunn]

If you want to remove ALL extraneous information, remove the entire 
catalogues from the MIF file using PERL.

I'm not familiar with L10N company processes, but why can't they identify 
what is text and what is formatting? Translating even the used formats is 
pointless and counter-productive unless you're sending source files in a 
new language and want the template to be useable by others.

There's something I don't quite understand here.

Eric L. Dunn
Senior Technical Writer

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Character formatting problem

[Charles Beck]

Fellow Framers,
 
I am trying to create a new character format, called Subscript. This
format should only make the selected text appear in a subscript, same
(relative) size, font, weight, color, etc. with respect to the default
paragraph font. However, Frame (7.0) does not allow me to use the As
Is option for the Size attribute. Whenever I try to select it (As Is)
and Apply/Update All, Frame fills in this field with the text size for
the paragraph I am currently in. That then becomes the default font size
for this character format from that point on. 
 
How do I get it so that this character format does not mess with the
font size, but leaves it alone? I'm stumped on this one... What am I
missing?
 
Chuck

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Re: Tweaking Workbook Templates for Trainers

[Art Campbell]

A couple of suggestions/ideas...

This would be a perfect application for change pages, which freeze the
student book pagination but allow insertion of instructor pages. It's
an undocumented FM feature -- Esc, p , z. I'm guessing that because
it's undocumented, it's not officially supported, but it's been around
for years and is still in 7.2.
Ric Quatro, a FM scripter, was working on a plug-in that would make
managing the change pages easier, but I don't know the status. He's at
frameexpert.com. Might be worth checking with him, and at least
playing with the feature.

Second, if it was me, I'm not sure I'd jump on the separate text
boxes with conditional text. Before I committed to it, I think I'd at
least test adding a second text frame to all pages to manage a
separate text flow for the instructor material -- Flow B, say. Which
you could either write in directly, or use to hold an imported file,
so the instructor's material could be worked on separately.

Third idea I think I'd also consider an alternate work flow in
which you finished the student workbook and generated a .pdf. Then
used Acrobat to extract the pages as individual graphic files and
import them into the FM files for the instructor's guides (probably at
reduced size).  The student page numbers and so on would all still be
visible and in order, but you'd have a lot more room and flexibility
to handle the instructor's material, including graphics...

Cheers,
Art

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Greetings Framers,

My company consists of several business units that each currently use
their own training workbook templates (all are on Frame 6 or 7).  We
have developed a standard curriculum template to which each business
unit will transition, and now we have the opportunity to enhance this
new template to allow us to generate instructor guides from the
workbooks.

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How many R/H system variables

[John Posada]

I seem to remember that when Adobe came out with V6, they upped the
number of available R/H variables. If this is true, what was the
number of R/H variables before and what it is in V7?

John Posada
Senior Technical Writer

I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've never 
actually known what the question is.
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FM Installation

[DON SHAFFER]

We recently received new computers. FM 7.0 is installed, with our
Acrobat updated from 4 to 7. We are now unable to save book as pdf. FM
appears not to be able to find Distiller as a printer option? Please
suggest how to correct our problem.
Don Shaffer
Ariel Corp.

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Re: CMYK Images in Frame

[Steve Rickaby]

At 11:04 -0400 24/8/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Another tangent: Were either the Illustrator or FrameMaker displayed colours 
IDENTICAL to the printed output?

No, but the Illustrator color was a lot more identical than the FrameMaker 
color, which was way, way off.

I suspect both were incorrect in some regard. It's only the final 
deliverable colour that's important.

Sure, of course. All on-screen colors are merely an attempt to get close to the 
final output color.

 And that's completely dependent on the device producing the output (except 
 for the unfortunate content that gets mangled by the OS between colour spaces 
 before output).

Output for this job is a bridge yet to be crossed ;-)

Analogy: The only important factor is the colour of the paint when it
dries. NOT the colour when it's in the can, or still wet on the wall. I'll
admit it is worrying painting cabinets a shockingly bright pink. But they
dried to the nice dark red we were looking for.

This is a relevant analogy, as I'm currently redecorating my house. As I stick 
to various tones of insipid, I'm usually safe. Unlike the next-door neighbor of 
a friend, who painted the outside of his house a violent green by accident. As 
a surprise for his wife. Boy was she surprised.
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Re: Character formatting problem

[Peter Gold]

Hi, Charles:

Charles Beck wrote:

Fellow Framers,
 
I am trying to create a new character format, called Subscript. This

format should only make the selected text appear in a subscript, same
(relative) size, font, weight, color, etc. with respect to the default
paragraph font. However, Frame (7.0) does not allow me to use the As
Is option for the Size attribute. Whenever I try to select it (As Is)
and Apply/Update All, Frame fills in this field with the text size for
the paragraph I am currently in.
It IS confusing, because the designer's feedback includes all formatting 
at the cursor/insertion point.


Most likely you're creating the character tag correctly, but, because 
it's not applied to the selected text or to the cursor position when you 
choose Update All, the feedback from the designer reverts to the 
non-subscripted property.


One way to do do this with certainty is to move the cursor out of all 
text by clicking into the page margin area, then choosing the character 
format's tag name in the designer. Another way is to leave the cursor in 
the text, and choose Commands  Set Window to As Is. After either of 
these actions, set the subscript ON, and choose Update All. To verify 
your work, click into margin area again and choose the character tag in 
the designer.

 That then becomes the default font size
for this character format from that point on. 
 
How do I get it so that this character format does not mess with the

font size, but leaves it alone? I'm stumped on this one... What am I
missing?
  

HTH

Regards,

Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices

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Re: How many R/H system variables

[Art Campbell]

It bumped to 12 in 7.0. I don't hae doc for 5 or 6 handy to check
those versions

Art

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I seem to remember that when Adobe came out with V6, they upped the
number of available R/H variables. If this is true, what was the
number of R/H variables before and what it is in V7?

John Posada
Senior Technical Writer


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Re: FM Installation

[rebecca officer]

Ugh. Upgrades can be a pain.

I'd start by checking if you have a printer FILE: port. That's the port
FM sends print jobs to when printing as postscript, which Save as PDF
needs as an intermediate step. Updating/reinstalling Acrobat seems to
clobber the port, for us anyway.

If you don't have a FILE: port, just create one (from your Start menu).
In the Printer Properties dialog of any printer, select the Ports tab.
Note the port that this printer is currently using. Then click Add Port,
select Local Port, click New Port, type FILE: (uppercase and : both
required). Click Okay till you're back at the printer properties. The
printer will now be using the FILE: port; set it to use its original
port instead. Nothing needs to be using the FILE: port - it just needs
to exist. 

If that doesn't work, I'd uninstall both FM and Acrobat and try again.
If you've got the full version of Acrobat, then don't install the
version of Distiller from the FM CD. Leave it to Acrobat instead. And
after your second attempt, check for the FILE: port again.

Hope that helps!
Rebecca


 DON SHAFFER [EMAIL PROTECTED] 25/08/06 01:32 

We recently received new computers. FM 7.0 is installed, with our
Acrobat updated from 4 to 7. We are now unable to save book as pdf.
FM
appears not to be able to find Distiller as a printer option? Please
suggest how to correct our problem.
Don Shaffer
Ariel Corp.

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Re: Distiller Error Message

[rebecca officer]

What nasty image is on page 45? If you make a postscript file with just
that page, can you distill that?

Cheers, Rebecca

 Jennifer Randel [EMAIL PROTECTED] 25/08/06 07:42

Hi all, 
I have been sucessfully creating PDFs from FrameMaker today, but all
of
a sudden, I try to create one and I it Distiller can't produce it.
I've
tried changing the Default Settings to see if there was a problem with
one of the settings, but I get the same message regardless of selected
setting. 

I'm using FM v 6.0, Distiller v 7.0, and am using the Adobe PDF
printer.


Thank you, 
Jennifer 

**Here's the distiller message: 

Acrobat Distiller 7.0
Started: Thursday, August 24, 2006 at 12:35:00

Adobe PostScript software version: 3016.102
CID support library initialization completed.

Start Time: Thursday, August 24, 2006 at 12:35:17
Source: FINASB menu2.ps
Destination: My Documents\FINASB menu2.pdf
Adobe PDF Settings: C:\Documents and Settings\All
Users\Documents\Adobe
PDF\Settings\Standard.joboptions
%%[ ProductName: Distiller ]%%
%%[Page: 1]%%
%%[Page: 45]%%
%%[ Error: ioerror; OffendingCommand: imageDistiller ]%%

Stack:
-dict-

%%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%%
%%[ Warning: PostScript error. No PDF file produced. ] %%
Distill Time: 39 seconds (00:00:39)
 End of Job 

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Re: New Distiller Settings

[Shlomo Perets]

Jennifer,

You wrote:


Our IT department just upgraded the Acrobat Distiller on my PC to
version 7.0 and now when I try to convert my Frame (v 6.0) documents to
PDF, all of the colors in the document appear in black and white. I've
already tried changing the Color Settings in Distiller, but I'm not
having any luck.

Can anyone give me some advice on fixing this problem?


I recommend having the leave color unchanged option in Distiller settings.

If your colors all end up as black and white, this is likely related to the 
PS driver being used to create the PS file and not to Distiller's settings.
Make sure you use the AdobePS driver (with Acrobat 6 or 7, it shows up as 
Adobe PDF in the list of printers).


[ Unrelated to colors, but related to Distiller 7.0x: if you have rounded 
rectangles in your FrameMaker documents, make sure that Convert smooth 
lines to curves (Advanced tab) is turned off, otherwise the rectangles are 
distorted -- see http://www.microtype.com/Hmmms.html#0512 ]



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RE: Character formatting problem

[Joe Malin]

You're not missing anything. The FM interface is quite confusing for
this task.

I do character tags with the following steps:
1. Open the Character Designer (I use CTRL+D)
2. In the document, click to clear any selections. To verify you've done
it correctly, the
   *Character Tag* text box in the Designer should be blank.
3. Select *Commands  New Format*.
4. Enter a name for the new tag. In your case, it would be Subscript.
5. Set *Store in Catalog*, but _clear_ *Apply to Selection*.
6. Click *Create*. _Notice that the *Character Tag* text box is still
blank._
7. With the insertion point still outside a selection, select
*Subscript* from the Designer
   dropdown box.
8. Set or clear the options you want. For a plain subscript, set
everything to *As Is*, and set
   the *Spread* and *Stretch* fields to blank. Also clear all the
options at the right of the
   Designer.
9. Set the checkbox next to *Superscript/Subscript*, then select
*Subscript* from the dropdown
   box.
10.Click *Update All*.

Test this. You should see a subscript. 

_Notice that the Character Designer shows you all the other settings
that previously applied to 
your selection_. That is, Character Designer does *not* switch to *As
Is* when you make a
selection. Instead, it shows the _current state_.

That's the confusing part of the UI. FM dialogs work that way. FM didn't
start out as a Windows app, so its UI does not show a Microsoft
influence. You may find it confusing; when I was first starting, I sure
did! In fairness to both Adobe and FM, it is confusing because it is not
what we expect.



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Subject: Character formatting problem

Fellow Framers,
 
I am trying to create a new character format, called Subscript. This
format should only make the selected text appear in a subscript, same
(relative) size, font, weight, color, etc. with respect to the default
paragraph font. However, Frame (7.0) does not allow me to use the As
Is option for the Size attribute. Whenever I try to select it (As Is)
and Apply/Update All, Frame fills in this field with the text size for
the paragraph I am currently in. That then becomes the default font size
for this character format from that point on. 
 
How do I get it so that this character format does not mess with the
font size, but leaves it alone? I'm stumped on this one... What am I
missing?
 
Chuck

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Re: How many R/H system variables

[Pat Christenson]

I'm pretty sure it was 4 in earlier versions.

Pat Christenson

On Aug 24, 2006, at 2:44 PM, Art Campbell wrote:


It bumped to 12 in 7.0. I don't hae doc for 5 or 6 handy to check
those versions

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Tweaking Workbook Templates for Trainers

[Gutierrez, Anita]

Greetings Framers,

My company consists of several business units that each currently use
their own training workbook templates (all are on Frame 6 or 7).  We
have developed a standard curriculum template to which each business
unit will transition, and now we have the opportunity to enhance this
new template to allow us to generate instructor guides from the
workbooks.  I'm wondering what kind of great ideas are out there for
creating slick trainer guides from a workbook. Please share your
secrets.  

Our specific requirements are as follows:

* Trainer guides should consist of all the material in the student
workbook, plus additional trainer-specific material where needed.
* The additional material can usually fit in the existing page margins
using separate text boxes with conditional text.  That part we've
figured out.
* The page numbering for both student and trainer guides must match up,
so that trainers can easily refer students to the correct page.  That
becomes a problem with the next two bullets ... 
* Occasionally the additional material is too lengthy to fit in the
margins.  In that case is there a way to add additional pages and still
accomplish bullet 3?  Perhaps with an autonumbered paragraph tag in the
footers of only the student pages?
* The first page of each lesson almost always needs to be its own
trainer-specific page in the trainer guide.  This page would not be
included in the student version, and again, we would want to retain the
page numbering as the student sees it.

In addition to these requirements I'd love to hear other good ideas.  We
have a unique situation in that the group working on these templates is
eager to think outside of the box.

Thanks!
Anita





Anita Maria Gutierrez
Sage Software
Beaverton, Oregon
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Table heading rows

[Shmuel Wolfson]

There is a simple solution that was provided by Art in a previous email:

Right click in the first row of the table. Select Table.
Select Add Rows or Columns.
Specify 1 Row and in the Pull-down, To Heading.
Click Add.
Type, don't copy, the text that describes the columns and which you
wanted repeated when the table breaks to a new page.
Save.



-- 
Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson




Charles Beck wrote:
> Gillian,
>
> This is the only way I've found that works as well. I just wanted to add
> that, if you do have a number of tables to process, I can very highly
> recommend Rick's TableCleaner plug-in. WELL worth the money in the time
> you will save!
>
> (Rick, you can send my endorsement fee to my home address.) ;o)
>
> Chuck
>  
>
> -Original Message-
> Subject: Re: Table heading rows
>
> Gillian,
>
> Click in the table and choose Table > Add Rows or Columns. Choose To
> Heading in the Add Rows popup menu. Now copy your first body row into
> the new heading row.
>
> If you have a lot of tables to process, take a look at my TableCleaner
> plugin.
>
> Rick Quatro
> Carmen Publishing
> 585-659-8267
> www.frameexpert.com
>
>
> How do you convert a table row into a table heading row? In the top row
> of my table, when I highlight the row, it says Body cells, instead of
> Heading cells like the top rows in other tables. How do I convert the
> row, or how do I add a heading row above it.
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Table heading rows

[Shmuel Wolfson]

There is a simple solution that was provided by Art in a previous email:

Right click in the first row of the table. Select Table.
Select Add Rows or Columns.
Specify 1 Row and in the Pull-down, To Heading.
Click Add.
Type, don't copy, the text that describes the columns and which you
wanted repeated when the table breaks to a new page.
Save.



-- 
Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson




Charles Beck wrote:
> Gillian,
>
> This is the only way I've found that works as well. I just wanted to add
> that, if you do have a number of tables to process, I can very highly
> recommend Rick's TableCleaner plug-in. WELL worth the money in the time
> you will save!
>
> (Rick, you can send my endorsement fee to my home address.) ;o)
>
> Chuck
>  
>
> -Original Message-
> Subject: Re: Table heading rows
>
> Gillian,
>
> Click in the table and choose Table > Add Rows or Columns. Choose To
> Heading in the Add Rows popup menu. Now copy your first body row into
> the new heading row.
>
> If you have a lot of tables to process, take a look at my TableCleaner
> plugin.
>
> Rick Quatro
> Carmen Publishing
> 585-659-8267
> www.frameexpert.com
>
>
> How do you convert a table row into a table heading row? In the top row
> of my table, when I highlight the row, it says Body cells, instead of
> Heading cells like the top rows in other tables. How do I convert the
> row, or how do I add a heading row above it.
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CMYK Images in Frame

[Steve Rickaby]

At 16:35 -0400 23/8/06, eric.dunn at ca.transport.bombardier.com wrote:

>Welcome to the (hellish) world of colourmatching. Fussing with the colour
>on screen is virtually meaningless. If the two are supposed to be the
>same, they SHOULD be the same. If they are displaying differently, they
>undoubtedly are different and do need edited in image editing software.

A tangential remark: I recently worked on a job that used a key color. Although 
the CMYK mix was matched carefully across all the contributing applications, 
the actual color displayed totally differently in FrameMaker to Illustrator. 
When both the imported Illustrator work and the FrameMaker files were combined 
and output to PDF, the two 'different' colors appeared the same, and correct.

I guess FrameMaker's color rendering is a little behind that of Adobe's CS2 
applications.

-- 
Steve

Logitech NuLOOQ?

[Steve Rickaby]

Has anyone tried to configure one of these things for use with FrameMaker? If 
so, was it useful?



-- 
Steve

A Plugin for scrubbing files before localization

[Steve Rickaby]

At 15:29 -0700 23/8/06, John Posada wrote:

>My question has to do with seeming to remember a plugin that did
>this. Does anything about this sound familiar?

John: Steve Kubis' (SiliconPrairie) paragraph and character tools plug-ins both 
have a 'remove unused tags' command. His new table tools plug-in has the 
matching command for tables. All are very cheap, and I'd not be without them 
for the world.

-- 
Steve

Table heading rows

[Mike Feimster]

If you're using structured Frame, you can insert a Table-Heading (or
whatever you've called it) element and drag the body row into the
heading element.

Mike

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[mailto:framers-bounces+mike.feimster=acstechnologies.com at lists.frameuse
rs.com] On Behalf Of Gillian Flato
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 5:34 PM
To: framers at frameusers.com
Subject: Table heading rows

How do you convert a table row into a table heading row? In the top row
of my table, when I highlight the row, it says Body cells, instead of
Heading cells like the top rows in other tables. How do I convert the
row, or how do I add a heading row above it. 

It's probably a really simple answer but I am just blanking out on how
to do it.



Thanks,

Gillian Flato

Technical Writer (Software)

NANOmetrics, Inc.

1550 Buckeye Dr.

Milpitas, CA. 95035

(408.435.9600 x 316

7  408.232.5911

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A Plugin for scrubbing files before localization

[Martinek, Carla]

Also:

http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/Products.html
Paragraph Tools and Character Tools will scrub those formats.

http://www.systec-gmbh.com/en/sites/toolbox.php
Systec Toolbox
Download the program (it is FM-version-specific, so get the right one
for your version of Frame), go through install procedure but do NOT
select any of the modules to install.  The free utilities will still
install, which include the option to delete all UNUSED:
-paragraph formats
-character formats
-user-defined variables
-xref formats
-table formats
-color definitions

The paid modules have lots of neat options as well, but I haven't been
able to purchase those yet. 

I beleive that Mif2Go, if you install it, gives you a free option to
"wash via mif" your files, which may remove some stubborn color settings
that refuse to be delete elsewise. (I've had docs that somehow have 100
definitions for the color black, which cannot be deleted by normal
means.  Saving as MIF is the ony way to purge them.)

NOTE: CleanImport will delete ALL styles that you have in use, which is
what some people need in some circumstances.  I'm not sure if it leave
the styles with the modified indicator (*stylename) so you can tell what
they used to be, but be careful.  Try it on a copy of your doc to make
sure it does what you expect it to and want it to.

Carla
cmartinek | zebra | com


-Original Message-
From: Scott Prentice
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 9:40 PM
To: John Posada
Cc: List, Framers
Subject: Re: A Plugin for scrubbing files before localization

Hi John...

Clean Import by ElectroPubs .. http://www.electropubs.com/downloads.html
.. may do most of what you need. I've not personally used this so can't
say for sure, but it's worth checking out.

...scott

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CMYK Images in Frame

[Scott White]

That is what I'm experiencing. However, you don't get the true color until,
in our applications, you run it through a 4-color process.
-- 
Scott White
Media Production Manager
Implentation Coordinator
AlaMark Technologies
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> From: Steve Rickaby 
> Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 09:39:40 +0100
> To: 
> Subject: Re: CMYK Images in Frame
> 
> At 16:35 -0400 23/8/06, eric.dunn at ca.transport.bombardier.com wrote:
> 
>> Welcome to the (hellish) world of colourmatching. Fussing with the colour
>> on screen is virtually meaningless. If the two are supposed to be the
>> same, they SHOULD be the same. If they are displaying differently, they
>> undoubtedly are different and do need edited in image editing software.
> 
> A tangential remark: I recently worked on a job that used a key color.
> Although the CMYK mix was matched carefully across all the contributing
> applications, the actual color displayed totally differently in FrameMaker to
> Illustrator. When both the imported Illustrator work and the FrameMaker files
> were combined and output to PDF, the two 'different' colors appeared the same,
> and correct.
> 
> I guess FrameMaker's color rendering is a little behind that of Adobe's CS2
> applications.
> 
> -- 
> Steve
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FM Installation

[DON SHAFFER]

We recently received new computers. FM 7.0 is installed, with our
Acrobat updated from 4 to 7. We are now unable to "save book as pdf". FM
appears not to be able to find Distiller as a printer option? Please
suggest how to correct our problem.
Don Shaffer
Ariel Corp.

Deleting color definitions

[Stuart Rogers]

Ridder, Fred wrote:
> Well, if they are spurious colors with names like 
> RGB Color 255, 255, 255, saving the file to MIF and then 
> re-opening it in FrameMaker (or using the "Wash via MIF"
> command that comes with the Mif2Go tool) will scrub them
> out in one operation. But if they are real color definitions, I 
> think you may be stuck with the one-at-a-time method or
> seeing if it can be scripted via FrameScript.
> 

...or you could save the file as MIF and open it in a text editor. Then 
delete the colour definitions, which appear all together near the top of 
the mif. Save, close, reopen in FM.

-- 
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Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
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Character formatting problem

[Charles Beck]

Fellow Framers,

I am trying to create a new character format, called Subscript. This
format should only make the selected text appear in a subscript, same
(relative) size, font, weight, color, etc. with respect to the default
paragraph font. However, Frame (7.0) does not allow me to use the "As
Is" option for the Size attribute. Whenever I try to select it ("As Is")
and Apply/Update All, Frame fills in this field with the text size for
the paragraph I am currently in. That then becomes the default font size
for this character format from that point on. 

How do I get it so that this character format does not mess with the
font size, but leaves it alone? I'm stumped on this one... What am I
missing?

Chuck

Chuck Beck | Sr. Information Developer | Infor Global Solutions, Inc. |
Office: 614-523-7302 | Charles.Beck at infor.com 

CMYK Images in Frame

[eric.d...@ca.transport.bombardier.com]

Steve Rickaby  wrote on 08/24/2006 
04:39:40 AM:
> When both the imported 
> Illustrator work and the FrameMaker files were combined and output 
> to PDF, the two 'different' colors appeared the same, and correct.

Another tangent: Were either the Illustrator or FrameMaker displayed 
colours IDENTICAL to the printed output? I suspect both were "incorrect" 
in some regard. It's only the final deliverable colour that's important. 
And that's completely dependent on the device producing the output (except 
for the unfortunate content that gets mangled by the OS between colour 
spaces before output).

I think that will account for display differences. CS2 applications use 
Adobes CMYK display filters. FrameMaker is stuck using Windows GDI (which 
is RGB).

Analogy: The only important factor is the colour of the paint when it 
dries. NOT the colour when it's in the can, or still wet on the wall. I'll 
admit it is worrying painting cabinets a shockingly bright pink. But they 
dried to the nice dark red we were looking for.

Eric L. Dunn
Senior Technical Writer

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Plugin to cleanout unused elements (resend)

[eric.d...@ca.transport.bombardier.com]

If you want to remove ALL extraneous information, remove the entire 
catalogues from the MIF file using PERL.

I'm not familiar with L10N company processes, but why can't they identify 
what is text and what is formatting? Translating even the used formats is 
pointless and counter-productive unless you're sending source files in a 
new language and want the template to be useable by others.

There's something I don't quite understand here.

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Tweaking Workbook Templates for Trainers

[Art Campbell]

A couple of suggestions/ideas...

This would be a perfect application for change pages, which freeze the
student book pagination but allow insertion of instructor pages. It's
an undocumented FM feature -- Esc, p , z. I'm guessing that because
it's undocumented, it's not officially supported, but it's been around
for years and is still in 7.2.
Ric Quatro, a FM scripter, was working on a plug-in that would make
managing the change pages easier, but I don't know the status. He's at
frameexpert.com. Might be worth checking with him, and at least
playing with the feature.

Second, if it was me, I'm not sure I'd jump on the "separate text
boxes with conditional text." Before I committed to it, I think I'd at
least test adding a second text frame to all pages to manage a
separate text flow for the instructor material -- Flow B, say. Which
you could either write in directly, or use to hold an imported file,
so the instructor's material could be worked on separately.

Third idea I think I'd also consider an alternate work flow in
which you finished the student workbook and generated a .pdf. Then
used Acrobat to extract the pages as individual graphic files and
import them into the FM files for the instructor's guides (probably at
reduced size).  The student page numbers and so on would all still be
visible and in order, but you'd have a lot more room and flexibility
to handle the instructor's material, including graphics...

Cheers,
Art

On 8/23/06, Gutierrez, Anita  wrote:
>
> Greetings Framers,
>
> My company consists of several business units that each currently use
> their own training workbook templates (all are on Frame 6 or 7).  We
> have developed a standard curriculum template to which each business
> unit will transition, and now we have the opportunity to enhance this
> new template to allow us to generate instructor guides from the
> workbooks.


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can ENTITY ImportedGraphic - be omitted?

[eric.d...@ca.transport.bombardier.com]

Sorry if this isn't relevant. It has been a while since I was in the 
depths of structured documents, DTDs, EDDs, R/W, and the like.

One thing that stumped me for a while was the creation of entities for 
graphics when they shouldn't have been. Turns out that if the userstring 
property (which was being set by a script as a means of tracking) is set 
to any value, FM creates an entity based on the value.

Had to add a script to my workflow that eliminated all userstring values 
from all graphics/graphic elements.

Eric L. Dunn
Senior Technical Writer

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CMYK Images in Frame

[Steve Rickaby]

At 11:04 -0400 24/8/06, eric.dunn at ca.transport.bombardier.com wrote:

>Another tangent: Were either the Illustrator or FrameMaker displayed colours 
>IDENTICAL to the printed output?

No, but the Illustrator color was a lot more identical than the FrameMaker 
color, which was way, way off.

>I suspect both were "incorrect" in some regard. It's only the final 
>deliverable colour that's important.

Sure, of course. All on-screen colors are merely an attempt to get close to the 
final output color.

> And that's completely dependent on the device producing the output (except 
> for the unfortunate content that gets mangled by the OS between colour spaces 
> before output).

Output for this job is a bridge yet to be crossed ;-)

>Analogy: The only important factor is the colour of the paint when it
>dries. NOT the colour when it's in the can, or still wet on the wall. I'll
>admit it is worrying painting cabinets a shockingly bright pink. But they
>dried to the nice dark red we were looking for.

This is a relevant analogy, as I'm currently redecorating my house. As I stick 
to various tones of insipid, I'm usually safe. Unlike the next-door neighbor of 
a friend, who painted the outside of his house a violent green by accident. As 
a surprise for his wife. Boy was she surprised.
-- 
Steve

How many R/H system variables

[John Posada]

I seem to remember that when Adobe came out with V6, they upped the
number of available R/H variables. If this is true, what was the
number of R/H variables before and what it is in V7?

John Posada
Senior Technical Writer

"I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've never 
actually known what the question is."

Distiller Error Message

[Jennifer Randel]

Hi all, 
I have been sucessfully creating PDFs from FrameMaker today, but all of
a sudden, I try to create one and I it Distiller can't produce it. I've
tried changing the Default Settings to see if there was a problem with
one of the settings, but I get the same message regardless of selected
setting. 

I'm using FM v 6.0, Distiller v 7.0, and am using the Adobe PDF printer.


Thank you, 
Jennifer 

**Here's the distiller message: 

Acrobat Distiller 7.0
Started: Thursday, August 24, 2006 at 12:35:00

Adobe PostScript software version: 3016.102
CID support library initialization completed.

Start Time: Thursday, August 24, 2006 at 12:35:17
Source: FINASB menu2.ps
Destination: My Documents\FINASB menu2.pdf
Adobe PDF Settings: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\Adobe
PDF\Settings\Standard.joboptions
%%[ ProductName: Distiller ]%%
%%[Page: 1]%%
%%[Page: 45]%%
%%[ Error: ioerror; OffendingCommand: imageDistiller ]%%

Stack:
-dict-

%%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%%
%%[ Warning: PostScript error. No PDF file produced. ] %%
Distill Time: 39 seconds (00:00:39)
 End of Job 

Character formatting problem

[Peter Gold]

Hi, Charles:

Charles Beck wrote:
> Fellow Framers,
>  
> I am trying to create a new character format, called Subscript. This
> format should only make the selected text appear in a subscript, same
> (relative) size, font, weight, color, etc. with respect to the default
> paragraph font. However, Frame (7.0) does not allow me to use the "As
> Is" option for the Size attribute. Whenever I try to select it ("As Is")
> and Apply/Update All, Frame fills in this field with the text size for
> the paragraph I am currently in.
It IS confusing, because the designer's feedback includes all formatting 
at the cursor/insertion point.

Most likely you're creating the character tag correctly, but, because 
it's not applied to the selected text or to the cursor position when you 
choose Update All, the feedback from the designer reverts to the 
non-subscripted property.

One way to do do this with certainty is to move the cursor out of all 
text by clicking into the page margin area, then choosing the character 
format's tag name in the designer. Another way is to leave the cursor in 
the text, and choose Commands > Set Window to As Is. After either of 
these actions, set the subscript ON, and choose Update All. To verify 
your work, click into margin area again and choose the character tag in 
the designer.
>  That then becomes the default font size
> for this character format from that point on. 
>  
> How do I get it so that this character format does not mess with the
> font size, but leaves it alone? I'm stumped on this one... What am I
> missing?
>   
HTH

Regards,

Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices

How many R/H system variables

[Art Campbell]

It bumped to 12 in 7.0. I don't hae doc for 5 or 6 handy to check
those versions

Art

On 8/24/06, John Posada  wrote:
> I seem to remember that when Adobe came out with V6, they upped the
> number of available R/H variables. If this is true, what was the
> number of R/H variables before and what it is in V7?
>
> John Posada
> Senior Technical Writer

-- 
Art Campbell art.campbell at 
gmail.com
  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent
   and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers apply.
 DoD 358

Character formatting problem

[Joe Malin]

You're not missing anything. The FM interface is quite confusing for
this task.

I do character tags with the following steps:
1. Open the Character Designer (I use CTRL+D)
2. In the document, click to clear any selections. To verify you've done
it correctly, the
   *Character Tag* text box in the Designer should be blank.
3. Select *Commands > New Format*.
4. Enter a name for the new tag. In your case, it would be "Subscript".
5. Set *Store in Catalog*, but _clear_ *Apply to Selection*.
6. Click *Create*. _Notice that the *Character Tag* text box is still
blank._
7. With the insertion point still outside a selection, select
*Subscript* from the Designer
   dropdown box.
8. Set or clear the options you want. For a plain subscript, set
everything to *As Is*, and set
   the *Spread* and *Stretch* fields to blank. Also clear all the
options at the right of the
   Designer.
9. Set the checkbox next to *Superscript/Subscript*, then select
*Subscript* from the dropdown
   box.
10.Click *Update All*.

Test this. You should see a subscript. 

_Notice that the Character Designer shows you all the other settings
that previously applied to 
your selection_. That is, Character Designer does *not* switch to *As
Is* when you make a
selection. Instead, it shows the _current state_.

That's the confusing part of the UI. FM dialogs work that way. FM didn't
start out as a Windows app, so its UI does not show a Microsoft
influence. You may find it confusing; when I was first starting, I sure
did! In fairness to both Adobe and FM, it is confusing because it is not
what we expect.



 Joe Malin
Technical Writer
(408)625-1623
jmalin at tuvox.com 
www.tuvox.com
The views expressed in this document are those of the sender, and do not
necessarily reflect those of TuVox, Inc.

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+jmalin=tuvox@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+jmalin=tuvox.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Charles Beck
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 7:48 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Character formatting problem

Fellow Framers,

I am trying to create a new character format, called Subscript. This
format should only make the selected text appear in a subscript, same
(relative) size, font, weight, color, etc. with respect to the default
paragraph font. However, Frame (7.0) does not allow me to use the "As
Is" option for the Size attribute. Whenever I try to select it ("As Is")
and Apply/Update All, Frame fills in this field with the text size for
the paragraph I am currently in. That then becomes the default font size
for this character format from that point on. 

How do I get it so that this character format does not mess with the
font size, but leaves it alone? I'm stumped on this one... What am I
missing?

Chuck

Chuck Beck | Sr. Information Developer | Infor Global Solutions, Inc. |
Office: 614-523-7302 | Charles.Beck at infor.com 


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How many R/H system variables

[Pat Christenson]

I'm pretty sure it was 4 in earlier versions.

Pat Christenson

On Aug 24, 2006, at 2:44 PM, Art Campbell wrote:

> It bumped to 12 in 7.0. I don't hae doc for 5 or 6 handy to check
> those versions
>
> Art
>

FM Installation

[Dov Isaacs]

A few things ...

If you have doggie-droppings on your system from Acrobat 4
(i.e., you didn't COMPLETELY uninstall Acrobat 4 prior to
installing Acrobat 7), you definitely will have problems
with FrameMaker 7's "save as PDF" feature as well as other
integration of Acrobat with other system functions.

Furthermore, I believe FrameMaker 7.0 came out BEFORE
Acrobat 6. In Acrobat 6, the name of the PostScript printer
driver instance used by Acrobat changed to "Adobe PDF."
I believe that FrameMaker 7.1 was the first version of
FrameMaker to be compatible with that name change (affecting
Acrobat 6 and 7).

- Dov


> -Original Message-
> From: DON SHAFFER
> Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 6:32 AM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: FM Installation
> 
> 
> We recently received new computers. FM 7.0 is installed, with 
> our Acrobat updated from 4 to 7. We are now unable to "save 
> book as pdf". FM appears not to be able to find Distiller as 
> a printer option? Please suggest how to correct our problem.
> Don Shaffer
> Ariel Corp.