XSL on export

[Rick Quatro]

Hello All,

Structured FrameMaker allows you to open an XML file and edit it in 
FrameMaker, while retaining the XML extension. This leads me to the 
question: What happens if you have your application set to use XSL on 
export, and you save an XML file that is open with FrameMaker? It doesn't 
seem like FrameMaker would be able to apply the stylesheet to the XML file 
if it is open in FrameMaker. Does anyone know what happens or how this is 
supposed to work? Thanks in advance.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com

XSL on export

[Rick Quatro]

I just answered my own question with a test. The stylesheet DOES get 
applied, even though the XML file is still open in FrameMaker. Of course, 
the changes that the stylesheet makes are not reflected in the open 
FrameMaker document unless you first close the document and attempt to 
reopen it.

I say *attempt* to reopen it, because you may need an import stylesheet so 
that the XML file will open without errors, depending on what was done by 
the export stylesheet. So, it is possible to render an XML file that is 
currently open and being edited in FrameMaker as unopenable after it is 
closed.

Is there a setting somewhere to prevent you from saving an XML document in 
FrameMaker? For example, if you open a text file with FrameMaker, it will 
retain the .txt extension until you attempt to save the file. You will then 
get the Save As dialog box so you can save it as a FrameMaker binary (.fm) 
document. Based on the above discussion, this behavior may be desireable for 
XML files. Thanks.

Rick

> Hello All,
>
> Structured FrameMaker allows you to open an XML file and edit it in 
> FrameMaker, while retaining the XML extension. This leads me to the 
> question: What happens if you have your application set to use XSL on 
> export, and you save an XML file that is open with FrameMaker? It doesn't 
> seem like FrameMaker would be able to apply the stylesheet to the XML file 
> if it is open in FrameMaker. Does anyone know what happens or how this is 
> supposed to work? Thanks in advance.
>
> Rick Quatro
> Carmen Publishing
> 585-659-8267
> www.frameexpert.com

Robohelp vs. WebWorks EPublisher Pro

[Mike Feimster]

Gillian, 

It sounds like WWeP Pro is a better fit for your workflow. With WWeP,
you can pretty much create help by running a single command without any
post-processing.

With RH, you have to create a new project, import the Frame docs, and
then create the help. Oh, you'll most likely have to do a handful of
steps between importing the docs and creating the help. This will have
to happen every time you want to create a help file, whereas with WWeP,
you should only have to set up the project once.

Adobe has announced that they will update RH, but that won't happen
until next year. The only thing we know is that Frame and RH are in the
same product group.

Mike

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Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 6:22 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Robohelp vs. WebWorks EPublisher Pro

Guys,

I am considering upgrading from WebWorks 7.0 to either WebWorks
ePublisher Pro or Robohelp X5. What experiences have you guys had with
both - going from Frame 7.0 to these, single-sourcing files, of course?

Which do you like better?
Does Robohelp have an edge since it's also an Adobe product?

What do you recommend? 

My final output is a .chm file. 


Thank you,



 

Gillian Flato

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OT: Pubsnet "out of office reply" bounces

[Bill Swallow]

I've been receiving them for quite some time now. I have yet to
receive a response. Further, addresses I do not use for professional
networking (like my at-work address, which I reserve for at-work mail)
somehow is receiving these. I'd really like to know where Pubsnet got
these addresses from.

On 9/14/06, Bill Briggs  wrote:
> At 10:32 AM -0700 9/14/06, Don Laux wrote:
> >Is anyone else receiving a bunch of "out of office reply" and "thanks for
> >your resume" auto-reply bounces from the Pubsnet newsletter?
>
>  Yup. It was a trickle, now it's a stream. I'd like it stopped completely, 
> before it becomes a flood.

-- 
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WWP-Users List Owner
Senior Member STC, TechValley Chapter
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"I see your OOO message and raise you a clue."

Pubsnet "out of office reply" bounces

[Bill Swallow]

And those NOT on their subscriber list (by choice). This does not bode
well for them.

On 9/14/06, Bureeda Bruner  wrote:
> I am receiving them as well. I assume everyone on their subscriber list is
> receiving them.

-- 
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HATT List Owner
WWP-Users List Owner
Senior Member STC, TechValley Chapter
http://techcommdood.blogspot.com
avid homebrewer and proud beer snob
"I see your OOO message and raise you a clue."

good flowchart software to use with Frame

[Combs, Richard]

Fred Staal wrote: 

> We use Visio and import the charts into FM 6 as a linked 
> objects. The process seems stable, retains vector format, and 
> avoids any conversion issues.

We used that method back when we only had an occasional Visio drawing,
and it was OK for that. It is, of course, Windows-only, relying on
Microsoft's OLE (Object Linking and Embedding) protocol. OLE2, actually,
which is more stable than the original OLE.

For docs with more Visio drawings (one file has over 60 in it), I
wouldn't dream of using OLE. Here's one reason: I have a 14-page file
that contains three half-page Visio diagrams. The current version
(Visios imported by ref as PDFs) is 67KB. An older version -- little
difference in text, Visios as linked (not embedded) objects -- is 595KB.


YMMV. 

Richard


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OT: Pubsnet "out of office reply" bounces

[Bill Briggs]

So far I haven't noticed them at my work address (this is my personal address). 
But then there are university spam filters at work on that one.

- web

At 10:05 AM -0400 9/15/06, Bill Swallow wrote:
>I've been receiving them for quite some time now. I have yet to
>receive a response. Further, addresses I do not use for professional
>networking (like my at-work address, which I reserve for at-work mail)
>somehow is receiving these. I'd really like to know where Pubsnet got
>these addresses from.
>
>On 9/14/06, Bill Briggs  wrote:
>>At 10:32 AM -0700 9/14/06, Don Laux wrote:
>>>Is anyone else receiving a bunch of "out of office reply" and "thanks for
>>>your resume" auto-reply bounces from the Pubsnet newsletter?
>>
>> Yup. It was a trickle, now it's a stream. I'd like it stopped completely, 
>> before it becomes a flood.
>
>--
>Bill Swallow
>HATT List Owner
>WWP-Users List Owner
>Senior Member STC, TechValley Chapter
>http://techcommdood.blogspot.com
>avid homebrewer and proud beer snob
>"I see your OOO message and raise you a clue."

OT Has anyone used Framemaker with Evolution LCMS?

[Lewis, Roy]

Has anyone successfully used Framemaker as an output for Evolution LCMS
software by OutStart Inc.?

OutStart has indicated that it is possible to create Framemaker output
but we have not been able to get details from the vendor. 

We currently create unstructured Framemaker documents with version 6.0.

Roy Lewis 
Educational Services 
Voice: 978-947-4627 
E-mail: rlewis at kronos.com 
 
Improving the performance of people and business 

XSL on export

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Rick,

the Structured Application Developer's Guide explains a new maker.ini
option:

TreatXMLAsXML=Off

I found it in the FM 7.2 Structured Application Developer's Guide, page 258.

- Michael

On 15.09.2006 14:04, Rick Quatro schrieb/wrote:
> Is there a setting somewhere to prevent you from saving an XML document
> in FrameMaker? For example, if you open a text file with FrameMaker, it
> will retain the .txt extension until you attempt to save the file. You
> will then get the Save As dialog box so you can save it as a FrameMaker
> binary (.fm) document. Based on the above discussion, this behavior may
> be desireable for XML files. Thanks.




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FrameMaker, XML/XSL, FrameScript, WebWorks Publisher,...

Angled heads with PostScript code

[Rick Quatro]

Hello All,

I don't know if I am remembering correctly, but I seem to recall in an early 
version of FrameMaker, there was an example of using PostScript code to 
angle table cells at a non-standard angle. It was probably done with 
PostScript text frames. If anybody remembers any details or has any 
information about doing this, please let me know. Thanks.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com

Angled heads with PostScript code

[Peter Gold]

Rick Quatro wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I don't know if I am remembering correctly, but I seem to recall in an 
> early version of FrameMaker, there was an example of using PostScript 
> code to angle table cells at a non-standard angle. It was probably 
> done with PostScript text frames. If anybody remembers any details or 
> has any information about doing this, please let me know. Thanks.
Hi, Rick:

I seem to remember .ps examples, too. I think one was for transitions 
that would happen in PDFs. I also seem to remember a sample, either .ps 
or MIF, that made a pie chart.

Have you tried creating what you need in a FrameMaker file, then 
printing to .ps and also to MIF to see how it's exported?

Since FrameMaker table cells only rotate in 90? increments, solutions 
are probably something like:

* an angled text line or text frame in an anchored frame in a cell

* carefully sized imported graphic or graphics in single or straddled 
heading/footing cells


HTH

Regards,

Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices

My colors are gone

[Robert Shelton]

I'm working in a document I just took over from a writer who left. I want it to 
use my styles, so I imported all formats--page layouts, paragraphs, characters, 
color definitions, everything--from one of my other documents. Everything seems 
to be working as expected, except that when I apply a character style that's 
supposed to be red, the text disappears. I assume it's getting set to white 
instead. When I re-apply the default paragraph font, the text goes back to 
black.

I've checked the character definition and it definitely says red.

I've checked the document I copied the formats from, and it works fine there.

I've looked at the color definition for red, and it's red, all right.

I've tried applying the color directly, not through a character style. Same 
problem.

I've tried using green instead of red. Same problem.

I've saved the file as a PDF, and the text is invisible there, too.

I've shut down and re-opened Frame, just in case.

Why won't my colors work?

Frame 7.0p578 on Win 2000 Pro.

Thanks for any help you can give me.

Bob
"Love people. Use things. Not vice-versa." -- Kelly Rothaus

My colors are gone -- Fixed

[Robert Shelton]

I was given the answer off-list. Somehow, my color view was changed so that 
most non-black colors were invisible. I have no idea how it happened, but it's 
fixed now.

Bob
"Love people. Use things. Not vice-versa." -- Kelly Rothaus


> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces+rshelton=opentext.com at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces+rshelton=opentext.com at lists.frameusers.com]On
> Behalf Of Robert Shelton
> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 2:34 PM
> To: framers at FrameUsers.com
> Subject: My colors are gone
> 
> 
> I'm working in a document I just took over from a writer who 
> left. I want it to use my styles, so I imported all 
> formats--page layouts, paragraphs, characters, color 
> definitions, everything--from one of my other documents. 
> Everything seems to be working as expected, except that when 
> I apply a character style that's supposed to be red, the text 
> disappears. I assume it's getting set to white instead. When 
> I re-apply the default paragraph font, the text goes back to black.
> 
> I've checked the character definition and it definitely says red.
> 
> I've checked the document I copied the formats from, and it 
> works fine there.
> 
> I've looked at the color definition for red, and it's red, all right.
> 
> I've tried applying the color directly, not through a 
> character style. Same problem.
> 
> I've tried using green instead of red. Same problem.
> 
> I've saved the file as a PDF, and the text is invisible there, too.
> 
> I've shut down and re-opened Frame, just in case.
> 
> Why won't my colors work?
> 
> Frame 7.0p578 on Win 2000 Pro.
> 
> Thanks for any help you can give me.

Angled heads with PostScript code

[Ian Hawkins]

Hi Rick,

I've still got FM4 installation floppies hanging around. There is a 
sample there that rotates text using PostScript text frames. Did you 
want to rotate the cell borders as well? The sample doesn't do that, but 
there might be enough there for you to figure it out for yourself. I'll 
send the files to you in a separate email.

Ian

Rick Quatro wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> I don't know if I am remembering correctly, but I seem to recall in an 
> early version of FrameMaker, there was an example of using PostScript 
> code to angle table cells at a non-standard angle. It was probably 
> done with PostScript text frames. If anybody remembers any details or 
> has any information about doing this, please let me know. Thanks.
>

Angled heads with PostScript code

[Rick Quatro]

Wow, thanks! Now I know that my memory is OK and it wasn't a dream. :-)

Rick

> Hi Rick,
> 
> I've still got FM4 installation floppies hanging around. There is a 
> sample there that rotates text using PostScript text frames. Did you 
> want to rotate the cell borders as well? The sample doesn't do that, but 
> there might be enough there for you to figure it out for yourself. I'll 
> send the files to you in a separate email.
> 
> Ian
> 
> Rick Quatro wrote:
> 
>> Hello All,
>>
>> I don't know if I am remembering correctly, but I seem to recall in an 
>> early version of FrameMaker, there was an example of using PostScript 
>> code to angle table cells at a non-standard angle. It was probably 
>> done with PostScript text frames. If anybody remembers any details or 
>> has any information about doing this, please let me know. Thanks.
>>

My colors are gone -- Fixed

[Robert Shelton]

I've been asked (again off-list) for more details: Somehow, a setting had been 
changed on the Define Color Views dialog (on the View menu, select Color, 
Views). I was set to use View 2, which had most of the colors set to invisible. 
I didn't even know that dialog existed, so I have no idea how it happened. But 
I selected View 1 instead, which had nothing set to invisible, and everything 
is fine now.

Bob
"Love people. Use things. Not vice-versa." -- Kelly Rothaus


> -Original Message-
> 
> I was given the answer off-list. Somehow, my color view was 
> changed so that most non-black colors were invisible. I have 
> no idea how it happened, but it's fixed now.
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: framers-bounces+rshelton=opentext.com at lists.frameusers.com
> > Behalf Of Robert Shelton
> > 
> > I'm working in a document I just took over from a writer who 
> > left. I want it to use my styles, so I imported all 
> > formats--page layouts, paragraphs, characters, color 
> > definitions, everything--from one of my other documents. 
> > Everything seems to be working as expected, except that when 
> > I apply a character style that's supposed to be red, the text 
> > disappears. I assume it's getting set to white instead. When 
> > I re-apply the default paragraph font, the text goes back to black.
> > 
> > I've checked the character definition and it definitely says red.
> > 
> > I've checked the document I copied the formats from, and it 
> > works fine there.
> > 
> > I've looked at the color definition for red, and it's red, 
> all right.
> > 
> > I've tried applying the color directly, not through a 
> > character style. Same problem.
> > 
> > I've tried using green instead of red. Same problem.
> > 
> > I've saved the file as a PDF, and the text is invisible there, too.
> > 
> > I've shut down and re-opened Frame, just in case.
> > 
> > Why won't my colors work?
> > 
> > Frame 7.0p578 on Win 2000 Pro.
> > 
> > Thanks for any help you can give me.

good flowchart software to use with Frame

[Jan Homan]

pdfFLY (www.pdf-fly.com) converts any drawing saved as PostScript or
PDF file to an editable FrameMaker Interchange Format (MIF). Which is vector 
based.

Any windows application, including SmartDraw, Visio, could generate a 
PostScript file
of the drawing, using the Print-to-File option.

Jan Homan
jan at pdf-fly.com


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   1. Options for cross-grading, Mac to PC (Steve Rickaby)
   2. good flowchart software to use with Frame (Beth Prince)
   3. Re: Document Management System needed for FM (Scott Abel)
   4. RE: Question regarding converting documents to Structured
  FrameMaker (Dave Shevitz)
   5. Nasty X-Refs (Whites)
   6. RE: good flowchart software to use with Frame (Charles Beck)
   7. RE: Options for cross-grading, Mac to PC (Ridder, Fred)
   8. Re: good flowchart software to use with Frame (Bill Briggs)
   9. RE: good flowchart software to use with Frame (Niels Fan?e)
  10. RE: Options for cross-grading, Mac to PC (Steve Rickaby)
  11. Re: good flowchart software to use with Frame (Syed Zaeem Hosain)
  12. 2 blank pages (Shmuel Wolfson)
  13. Re: 2 blank pages (Steve Rickaby)
  14. Re: 2 blank pages (John Posada)
  15. Re: 2 blank pages (Art Campbell)
  16. Re: good flowchart software to use with Frame
  (d.mossfritch at comcast.net)
  17. Re: good flowchart software to use with Frame (Art Campbell)
  18. RE: 2 blank pages (Gagne, Bernard (Bolton))
  19. RE: 2 blank pages (Steve Rickaby)
  20. Re: 2 blank pages (Bill Briggs)
  21. RE: good flowchart software to use with Frame (Gillian Flato)
  22. Re: good flowchart software to use with Frame (Peter Gold)
  23. Re: good flowchart software to use with Frame (Peter Gold)
  24. RE: good flowchart software to use with Frame (Gillian Flato)
  25. Re: good flowchart software to use with Frame (Peter Gold)
  26. RE: Options for cross-grading, Mac to PC (Dov Isaacs)
  27. RE: good flowchart software to use with Frame (Dov Isaacs)
  28. RE: good flowchart software to use with Frame (Bill Briggs)
  29. OT: Pubsnet "out of office reply" bounces (Don Laux)
  30. RE: Options for cross-grading, Mac to PC (Ridder, Fred)
  31. Re: OT: Pubsnet "out of office reply" bounces (Bill Briggs)
  32. RE: Pubsnet "out of office reply" bounces (Bureeda Bruner)
  33. RE: Pubsnet "out of office reply" bounces (Bill Briggs)
  34. RE: Pubsnet "out of office reply" bounces (Jennifer Randel)
  35. RE: Pubsnet "out of office reply" bounces (John Posada)
  36. Re: Options for cross-grading, Mac to PC (Peter Gold)
  37. RE: Options for cross-grading, Mac to PC (Dov Isaacs)
  38. RE: Options for cross-grading, Mac to PC (Ridder, Fred)
  39. Re: Options for cross-grading, Mac to PC (Peter Gold)
  40. FYI: Pubsnet posts (Rick Quatro)
  41. Re: FYI: Pubsnet posts (Steve Rickaby)
  42. Re: FYI: Pubsnet posts (Peter Gold)
  43. Re: FYI: Pubsnet posts (Art Campbell)
  44. RE: good flowchart software to use with Frame (Combs, Richard)
  45. Robohelp vs. WebWorks EPublisher Pro (Gillian Flato)
  46. RE: Robohelp vs. WebWorks EPublisher Pro (John Sgammato)
  47. Manual requirement or creation form (Fred Staal)
  48. good flowchart software to use with Frame (Fred Staal)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 12:57:48 +0100
From: Steve Rickaby 
Subject: Options for cross-grading, Mac to PC
To: framers at FrameUsers.com
Cc: fmforosx at yahoogroups.com
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I've just had an interesting discussion with Adobe European Support on the 
issue  of cross-grading from FrameMaker on Mac to FrameMaker on PC.

It seems to come down to this:

. Produce an invoice for the original purchase of FrameMaker (in my case, from 
Frame Corp in 1991)

. Sign a 'letter of destruction' from Adobe vowing that you will never again 
use FrameMaker on the Mac

. Pay the upgrade fee

and you then get FrameMaker for PC at the upgrade price. Adobe call this a 
'cross-system procedure'.

However, I need to be able to retain the use of FrameMaker on Mac, where my 
installations go back to FrameMaker Version 3, much as an upg

OT: Pubsnet "out of office reply" bounces

[Bruce Wolf]

I just report them all as spam.

:)

BW

--- Bill Swallow  wrote:

> I've been receiving them for quite some time now. I
> have yet to
> receive a response. Further, addresses I do not use
> for professional
> networking (like my at-work address, which I reserve
> for at-work mail)
> somehow is receiving these. I'd really like to know
> where Pubsnet got
> these addresses from.
> 
> On 9/14/06, Bill Briggs  wrote:
> > At 10:32 AM -0700 9/14/06, Don Laux wrote:
> > >Is anyone else receiving a bunch of "out of
> office reply" and "thanks for
> > >your resume" auto-reply bounces from the Pubsnet
> newsletter?
> >
> >  Yup. It was a trickle, now it's a stream. I'd
> like it stopped completely, before it becomes a
> flood.
>

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Additional sessions and hands-on workshops are being presented by 
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The documentation will cover the whole work flow (from taking samples 
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Requirements:

o. Experience documenting medical protocols (Required)
o. Experience writing hardware and software documentation (Required)
o. Degree or background in science (biology, chemistry, etc.) (Required)
o. Excellent FrameMaker skills (Required)
o. Experience with RoboHELP a plus
o. Previous experience working in a medical lab a major plus


Notes:

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o. We don't have a published bill rate for the contract, so please 
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A leading developer of medical devices needs a technical writer to 
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Requirements:

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o. Experience with FrameMaker and RoboHELP (Both Required)
o. Experience writing in a structured/CMS environment (Required)
o. Previous experience working in a medical lab a plus
o. Experience with DITA a plus
o. Degree in related field

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AltText Pop-ups

[James Barrow]

Hello All,

I'm creating pop-ups from images in my documentation.  I'm doing this by
inserting ImageAreaAltText Markers in text frames defined in the graphics.

After regenerating my project the pop-ups appear like they're supposed to
when I pass my cursor over them.  Unfortunately, these pop-ups remain
visible for ~5 seconds.  With some pop-ups containing 255 characters, five
seconds is not enough time to read all of the AltText.

How do I modify the time that the pop-ups remain visible?

I've looked in the Scripts folder > PopUp.js, but I can't find the variable
that controls this.

Thanks,

Jim

good flowchart software to use with Frame

[Smith, Terry]

I use the "FrameMaker primitives" that Bill Briggs created. I added them
to AutoText (you do use the AutoText plug-in, right?), so I can just
select the piece I need from the AutoText menu, type the text, and then
add the next piece. Some final alignment at the end and it's done. Using
the combination of Bill's flowchart pieces and AutoText, I can
*complete* a simple flowchart with about twelve pieces in around five
minutes. 

I also use Visio for many types of drawings. To keep the quality, I
export as a vector format: usually PDF (on the way to EPS), but
occasionally WMF. Remember that the Export to EPS option is (and always
has been) horribly broken in Visio. WMF is a vector format, but it has
many problems that I won't get into here. (WMF is still a handy format
sometimes, because you can give it to marketing guys to include in
PowerPoint. Double-clicking the WMF in PowerPoint makes it editable--at
which point it's not your problem anymore and the marketing guys can
tweak the colors and fonts happily all day.) For best results from
Visio, save to PDF, crop in Acrobat, export as EPS with a preview. It's
a bit of a chore, but worth it for some things. One hint that really
helps: put all your Visio pictures for one project in a single file.

XSL on export

[Rick Quatro]

Hello All,

Structured FrameMaker allows you to open an XML file and edit it in 
FrameMaker, while retaining the XML extension. This leads me to the 
question: What happens if you have your application set to use XSL on 
export, and you save an XML file that is open with FrameMaker? It doesn't 
seem like FrameMaker would be able to apply the stylesheet to the XML file 
if it is open in FrameMaker. Does anyone know what happens or how this is 
supposed to work? Thanks in advance.


Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
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www.frameexpert.com

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Re: XSL on export

[Rick Quatro]

I just answered my own question with a test. The stylesheet DOES get 
applied, even though the XML file is still open in FrameMaker. Of course, 
the changes that the stylesheet makes are not reflected in the open 
FrameMaker document unless you first close the document and attempt to 
reopen it.


I say *attempt* to reopen it, because you may need an import stylesheet so 
that the XML file will open without errors, depending on what was done by 
the export stylesheet. So, it is possible to render an XML file that is 
currently open and being edited in FrameMaker as unopenable after it is 
closed.


Is there a setting somewhere to prevent you from saving an XML document in 
FrameMaker? For example, if you open a text file with FrameMaker, it will 
retain the .txt extension until you attempt to save the file. You will then 
get the Save As dialog box so you can save it as a FrameMaker binary (.fm) 
document. Based on the above discussion, this behavior may be desireable for 
XML files. Thanks.


Rick


Hello All,

Structured FrameMaker allows you to open an XML file and edit it in 
FrameMaker, while retaining the XML extension. This leads me to the 
question: What happens if you have your application set to use XSL on 
export, and you save an XML file that is open with FrameMaker? It doesn't 
seem like FrameMaker would be able to apply the stylesheet to the XML file 
if it is open in FrameMaker. Does anyone know what happens or how this is 
supposed to work? Thanks in advance.


Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com


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RE: Robohelp vs. WebWorks EPublisher Pro

[Mike Feimster]

Gillian, 

It sounds like WWeP Pro is a better fit for your workflow. With WWeP,
you can pretty much create help by running a single command without any
post-processing.

With RH, you have to create a new project, import the Frame docs, and
then create the help. Oh, you'll most likely have to do a handful of
steps between importing the docs and creating the help. This will have
to happen every time you want to create a help file, whereas with WWeP,
you should only have to set up the project once.

Adobe has announced that they will update RH, but that won't happen
until next year. The only thing we know is that Frame and RH are in the
same product group.

Mike

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Guys,
 
I am considering upgrading from WebWorks 7.0 to either WebWorks
ePublisher Pro or Robohelp X5. What experiences have you guys had with
both - going from Frame 7.0 to these, single-sourcing files, of course?
 
Which do you like better?
Does Robohelp have an edge since it's also an Adobe product?
 
What do you recommend? 
 
My final output is a .chm file. 
 

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Re: OT: Pubsnet "out of office reply" bounces

[Bill Swallow]

I've been receiving them for quite some time now. I have yet to
receive a response. Further, addresses I do not use for professional
networking (like my at-work address, which I reserve for at-work mail)
somehow is receiving these. I'd really like to know where Pubsnet got
these addresses from.

On 9/14/06, Bill Briggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

At 10:32 AM -0700 9/14/06, Don Laux wrote:
>Is anyone else receiving a bunch of "out of office reply" and "thanks for
>your resume" auto-reply bounces from the Pubsnet newsletter?

 Yup. It was a trickle, now it's a stream. I'd like it stopped completely, 
before it becomes a flood.


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Re: Pubsnet "out of office reply" bounces

[Bill Swallow]

And those NOT on their subscriber list (by choice). This does not bode
well for them.

On 9/14/06, Bureeda Bruner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I am receiving them as well. I assume everyone on their subscriber list is
receiving them.


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RE: good flowchart software to use with Frame

[Combs, Richard]

Fred Staal wrote: 
 
> We use Visio and import the charts into FM 6 as a linked 
> objects. The process seems stable, retains vector format, and 
> avoids any conversion issues.

We used that method back when we only had an occasional Visio drawing,
and it was OK for that. It is, of course, Windows-only, relying on
Microsoft's OLE (Object Linking and Embedding) protocol. OLE2, actually,
which is more stable than the original OLE.

For docs with more Visio drawings (one file has over 60 in it), I
wouldn't dream of using OLE. Here's one reason: I have a 14-page file
that contains three half-page Visio diagrams. The current version
(Visios imported by ref as PDFs) is 67KB. An older version -- little
difference in text, Visios as linked (not embedded) objects -- is 595KB.


YMMV. 

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Re: OT: Pubsnet "out of office reply" bounces

[Bill Briggs]

So far I haven't noticed them at my work address (this is my personal address). 
But then there are university spam filters at work on that one.

- web

At 10:05 AM -0400 9/15/06, Bill Swallow wrote:
>I've been receiving them for quite some time now. I have yet to
>receive a response. Further, addresses I do not use for professional
>networking (like my at-work address, which I reserve for at-work mail)
>somehow is receiving these. I'd really like to know where Pubsnet got
>these addresses from.
>
>On 9/14/06, Bill Briggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>At 10:32 AM -0700 9/14/06, Don Laux wrote:
>>>Is anyone else receiving a bunch of "out of office reply" and "thanks for
>>>your resume" auto-reply bounces from the Pubsnet newsletter?
>>
>> Yup. It was a trickle, now it's a stream. I'd like it stopped completely, 
>> before it becomes a flood.
>
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OT Has anyone used Framemaker with Evolution LCMS?

[Lewis, Roy]

Has anyone successfully used Framemaker as an output for Evolution LCMS
software by OutStart Inc.?

OutStart has indicated that it is possible to create Framemaker output
but we have not been able to get details from the vendor. 

We currently create unstructured Framemaker documents with version 6.0.

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Re: XSL on export

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Rick,

the Structured Application Developer's Guide explains a new maker.ini
option:

TreatXMLAsXML=Off

I found it in the FM 7.2 Structured Application Developer's Guide, page 258.

- Michael

On 15.09.2006 14:04, Rick Quatro schrieb/wrote:
> Is there a setting somewhere to prevent you from saving an XML document
> in FrameMaker? For example, if you open a text file with FrameMaker, it
> will retain the .txt extension until you attempt to save the file. You
> will then get the Save As dialog box so you can save it as a FrameMaker
> binary (.fm) document. Based on the above discussion, this behavior may
> be desireable for XML files. Thanks.




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Angled heads with PostScript code

[Rick Quatro]

Hello All,

I don't know if I am remembering correctly, but I seem to recall in an early 
version of FrameMaker, there was an example of using PostScript code to 
angle table cells at a non-standard angle. It was probably done with 
PostScript text frames. If anybody remembers any details or has any 
information about doing this, please let me know. Thanks.


Rick Quatro
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Re: Angled heads with PostScript code

[Peter Gold]

Rick Quatro wrote:

Hello All,

I don't know if I am remembering correctly, but I seem to recall in an 
early version of FrameMaker, there was an example of using PostScript 
code to angle table cells at a non-standard angle. It was probably 
done with PostScript text frames. If anybody remembers any details or 
has any information about doing this, please let me know. Thanks.

Hi, Rick:

I seem to remember .ps examples, too. I think one was for transitions 
that would happen in PDFs. I also seem to remember a sample, either .ps 
or MIF, that made a pie chart.


Have you tried creating what you need in a FrameMaker file, then 
printing to .ps and also to MIF to see how it's exported?


Since FrameMaker table cells only rotate in 90° increments, solutions 
are probably something like:


* an angled text line or text frame in an anchored frame in a cell

* carefully sized imported graphic or graphics in single or straddled 
heading/footing cells



HTH

Regards,

Peter Gold
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My colors are gone

[Robert Shelton]

I'm working in a document I just took over from a writer who left. I want it to 
use my styles, so I imported all formats--page layouts, paragraphs, characters, 
color definitions, everything--from one of my other documents. Everything seems 
to be working as expected, except that when I apply a character style that's 
supposed to be red, the text disappears. I assume it's getting set to white 
instead. When I re-apply the default paragraph font, the text goes back to 
black.

I've checked the character definition and it definitely says red.

I've checked the document I copied the formats from, and it works fine there.

I've looked at the color definition for red, and it's red, all right.

I've tried applying the color directly, not through a character style. Same 
problem.

I've tried using green instead of red. Same problem.

I've saved the file as a PDF, and the text is invisible there, too.

I've shut down and re-opened Frame, just in case.

Why won't my colors work?

Frame 7.0p578 on Win 2000 Pro.

Thanks for any help you can give me.

Bob
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RE: My colors are gone -- Fixed

[Robert Shelton]

I was given the answer off-list. Somehow, my color view was changed so that 
most non-black colors were invisible. I have no idea how it happened, but it's 
fixed now.

Bob
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> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Robert Shelton
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> Subject: My colors are gone
> 
> 
> I'm working in a document I just took over from a writer who 
> left. I want it to use my styles, so I imported all 
> formats--page layouts, paragraphs, characters, color 
> definitions, everything--from one of my other documents. 
> Everything seems to be working as expected, except that when 
> I apply a character style that's supposed to be red, the text 
> disappears. I assume it's getting set to white instead. When 
> I re-apply the default paragraph font, the text goes back to black.
> 
> I've checked the character definition and it definitely says red.
> 
> I've checked the document I copied the formats from, and it 
> works fine there.
> 
> I've looked at the color definition for red, and it's red, all right.
> 
> I've tried applying the color directly, not through a 
> character style. Same problem.
> 
> I've tried using green instead of red. Same problem.
> 
> I've saved the file as a PDF, and the text is invisible there, too.
> 
> I've shut down and re-opened Frame, just in case.
> 
> Why won't my colors work?
> 
> Frame 7.0p578 on Win 2000 Pro.
> 
> Thanks for any help you can give me.
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Re: Angled heads with PostScript code

[Ian Hawkins]

Hi Rick,

I've still got FM4 installation floppies hanging around. There is a 
sample there that rotates text using PostScript text frames. Did you 
want to rotate the cell borders as well? The sample doesn't do that, but 
there might be enough there for you to figure it out for yourself. I'll 
send the files to you in a separate email.


Ian

Rick Quatro wrote:


Hello All,

I don't know if I am remembering correctly, but I seem to recall in an 
early version of FrameMaker, there was an example of using PostScript 
code to angle table cells at a non-standard angle. It was probably 
done with PostScript text frames. If anybody remembers any details or 
has any information about doing this, please let me know. Thanks.



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Re: Angled heads with PostScript code

[Rick Quatro]

Wow, thanks! Now I know that my memory is OK and it wasn't a dream. :-)

Rick


Hi Rick,

I've still got FM4 installation floppies hanging around. There is a 
sample there that rotates text using PostScript text frames. Did you 
want to rotate the cell borders as well? The sample doesn't do that, but 
there might be enough there for you to figure it out for yourself. I'll 
send the files to you in a separate email.


Ian

Rick Quatro wrote:


Hello All,

I don't know if I am remembering correctly, but I seem to recall in an 
early version of FrameMaker, there was an example of using PostScript 
code to angle table cells at a non-standard angle. It was probably 
done with PostScript text frames. If anybody remembers any details or 
has any information about doing this, please let me know. Thanks.




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RE: My colors are gone -- Fixed

[Robert Shelton]

I've been asked (again off-list) for more details: Somehow, a setting had been 
changed on the Define Color Views dialog (on the View menu, select Color, 
Views). I was set to use View 2, which had most of the colors set to invisible. 
I didn't even know that dialog existed, so I have no idea how it happened. But 
I selected View 1 instead, which had nothing set to invisible, and everything 
is fine now.

Bob
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> -Original Message-
> 
> I was given the answer off-list. Somehow, my color view was 
> changed so that most non-black colors were invisible. I have 
> no idea how it happened, but it's fixed now.
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Behalf Of Robert Shelton
> > 
> > I'm working in a document I just took over from a writer who 
> > left. I want it to use my styles, so I imported all 
> > formats--page layouts, paragraphs, characters, color 
> > definitions, everything--from one of my other documents. 
> > Everything seems to be working as expected, except that when 
> > I apply a character style that's supposed to be red, the text 
> > disappears. I assume it's getting set to white instead. When 
> > I re-apply the default paragraph font, the text goes back to black.
> > 
> > I've checked the character definition and it definitely says red.
> > 
> > I've checked the document I copied the formats from, and it 
> > works fine there.
> > 
> > I've looked at the color definition for red, and it's red, 
> all right.
> > 
> > I've tried applying the color directly, not through a 
> > character style. Same problem.
> > 
> > I've tried using green instead of red. Same problem.
> > 
> > I've saved the file as a PDF, and the text is invisible there, too.
> > 
> > I've shut down and re-opened Frame, just in case.
> > 
> > Why won't my colors work?
> > 
> > Frame 7.0p578 on Win 2000 Pro.
> > 
> > Thanks for any help you can give me.
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