RE: Need help building a para Warning tag

2007-02-21 Thread Caroline Tabach
I don’t know quite how you are making HTML help, but many applications have the 
possibility to use a different type of style in a help project from the Frame 
file, (sometimes by applying a different template)

Caroline Tabach
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Subject: Re: Need help building a para Warning tag


I tried Richard Comb's method for putting graphics for warning symbols
on a reference page and creating 2-column tables.  Everything worked
great for printed output but the graphics don't show up in my HTML Help
output.  I found that graphics not bounded by an anchored frame (on a
body page, I suppose) will not appear in the HTML output.  Is there any
way around this?

Thanks!
Ed Lightle
Sr. Technical Writer
Command Alkon Inc.
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Re: Query on Tables Numbering and List of Tables

2007-02-21 Thread Radha Padmanabhan
Hi Stuart, MIFMuncher did as you have said. It is so nice to see a list of all 
paragraph tags with their properties. 
   
  Thanks all for your help.
   
  Regards
  Radha
  Technical Writer
  www.mgl.com

Stuart Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  An easy way to learn which of your tags has autonumbering is to use 
MifMuncher: http://www.stc-carolina.org/MIF+Muncher

HTH

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RE: Frame's future

2007-02-21 Thread Gordon McLean
Whilst it may be wrong to compare this scenario to one offered by a free
product...

Firefox and extensions anyone? Add in some charges/licensing and you have
what seems to be a good model that is flexible enough for everyone involved,
including Adobe?

I agree with Shlomo, I think a lot of people use FM out of the box, and I'd
guess that it's largely because it's not made obvious that there ARE
plugins, and then once you are aware they exist, finding them can be quite
tricky (that list of Index plugins includes some I've never even heard
of...).

Gordon

-Original Message-
Subject: RE: Frame's future

Licensing and integrating existing plug-ins is an excellent way to extend
functionality of a core product. In response to Hedley's suggestion, I
mentioned the DITA and Apply Master Pages plug-ins as examples for plug-ins
that are already incorporated into FrameMaker.

There are many high-quality plug-ins out there that could significantly
improve the end user experience -- handling tables, indexing, markers,
conversion, manage formats, archiving, and many more. The FrameScript
runtime is also a great idea.

Even though some of the existing 3rd party add-ons are low cost (or even
free), my impression is that the vast majority of FrameMaker users use
FrameMaker as it comes out of the box (this is probably true with respect to
other products).


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Linking HTML files from FrameMaker source

2007-02-21 Thread Jaya Ghosh
Hello,

 

 

Can I create a hypertext from the source FrameMaker file to an html file in
a different location? If so HOW?

 

Please note the htmls are located in the product installation path and
varies from user to user.

 

I tried using the gotolink, message url et all nothing works as it seems
that FM converts the relative path to absolute path.

 

Help is appreciated.

 

Regards,

Jaya

 

 

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RE: Structured Frame s-l-o-w-l-y opening a document

2007-02-21 Thread russ
Trevor,

This is my experience with long XML files as well.  I'm pretty sure it is 
caused by the application of formatting by the EDD, which takes some time when 
it has to evaluate formatting rules element-by-element for 500 pages.  It 
doesn't need to do this for a .FM file, because the formatting metadata is 
already assigned in the binary.  So, I think it's just the nature of the tool, 
and your complaint is quite reasonable.  At the FrameMaker Chautauqua, I 
mentioned this problem to the development manager, and have subsequently made 
it a personal rule-of-thumb to keep all XML files less than 100 pages (as 
formatted).

I don't know what the real answer might be, but I'm confident that this 
handicap (among others) will have to change if FrameMaker wants to stay a 
serious contender in the XML space.

Russ

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Hi

I was interested to read the recent discussions about (why/why not) use
structured Framemaker. I started with Framemaker at version 7.2, have never
known anything but structured authoring, and adopting unstructured authoring
doesn't appeal to me as a positive move in any way. However, that's by the
by.

I have an application which uses structured Frame as its document editor.
The documents themselves are stored as XML files and, apart from one
bottleneck, the application works satisfactorily. That bottleneck is the
time taken by Frame to open an XML document.

Illustrative timings:
On a 1.7GHz/1Gb machine: 85 seconds from 'File  Open  myfile.xml' to being
presented with the document in Framemaker.
On a 3.5GHz/2Gb machine: 60 seconds.

Framemaker runs an XSL step which tweaks the XML for Frame (wrapping graphic
elements inside wrapper, adjusting table contents, pulling included
subfiles inline, etc.). Xalan runs this stylesheet outside of Frame in less
than 4 seconds. (Just in case this isn't widely known, Frame uses a version
of Xalan as its XSL engine.)

If I load the file, clear the structured application, and save the full
document as a .FM file, then re-start Frame, I can start editing the
document within 5 seconds of entering 'File  Open  myfile.fm'.

So the document load time breaks down into:
4 seconds to run the initial XSL
76 seconds for Frame to put the temporary XML file into native FM form
5 seconds to load the FM document

Although myfile.xml is small, pulling in all the included subdocuments
produces a document of some 500 pages or so. I'm not expecting the file load
process to be instantaneous, but a minute and a half is unacceptable. 

What options do I have, if any, for reducing the 76 second overhead?

Cheers
Trevor



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Re: RE: Oops! Look ma, no fonts!

2007-02-21 Thread David Creamer
 Windings of one sort or another have come with Windows for a long time, I
 think, but none of them are the same as, comparable with, or versions of, Zapf
 Dingbats, which is a completely different symbol font, work of Hermann Zapf,
 one of the 20th C's more eminent font designers.

I could be wrong, but I believe that Monotype Sorts is the Windows TT
knock-off of Zapf Dingbats. I don't think it is installed by default, but
with additional fonts during a custom install.


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re: Printed Copies of Uncontrolled Online Documentation

2007-02-21 Thread Shlomo Perets

Eduardo,

You wrote:

 ...
 1. I create a document in FrameMaker which is rendered to a PDF and posted
on a website.
 2. When viewing the PDF online, it looks okay, nothing remarkablepage
after page of outstanding content.
 3. When printing the PDF, either at the bottom or top or somewhere
appears a statement such as Pursuant to company policy, this is an
Uncontrolled Copy of the XYZ Manual

 Question:
 Using only the available tools I have:  FrameMaker 7.1 and Acrobat 5.5,
 how can I make this happen?


-- In Acrobat, add a form field (type = text field) with the text and 
formatting you like.
In the field properties, you'll be able to choose between: visible | 
visible, not printed | hidden | hidden, printed
(I don't have easy access to Acrobat 5.0.5, so cannot quote the specific 
labels).


-- Choose hidden but printed.

-- Duplicate the field to all other pages (can done with one action through 
the menu).



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re: Oops! Look ma, no fonts!

2007-02-21 Thread Shlomo Perets

David Creamer wrote:

 I could be wrong, but I believe that Monotype Sorts is the Windows TT
 knock-off of Zapf Dingbats. I don't think it is installed by default, but
 with additional fonts during a custom install.


Visit http://www.microsoft.com/typography/fonts/default.aspx to find out 
which fonts are included in different Microsoft products/OS (by font or by 
product).


[ http://www.microsoft.com/typography is the MS Typography home page with 
interesting font-related information and utilities]



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Forwarded message on TOC

2007-02-21 Thread Michelle Anderson
This is a forwarded message that had difficulty getting to the list  
so I am posting it for them. Please respond to the list so that the  
individual can gain insight and get their question answered. Thanks-



Has anyone had an issue with TOCs in structure creating a very large  
paragraph tag for the last TOC entry? If so, how did you resolve? We  
are having this problem and cannot figure out how to correct it.   
Otherwise, our TOC works great….if we could just rid this large  
paragraph tag that creates an ugly spacing issue! Thank you!!___



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Re: RE: Oops! Look ma, no fonts!

2007-02-21 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 05:58 -0800 21/2/07, David Creamer wrote:
I could be wrong, but I believe that Monotype Sorts is the Windows TT
knock-off of Zapf Dingbats. I don't think it is installed by default, but
with additional fonts during a custom install.

Yes, looks like it...

http://www.fonts.com/findfonts/detail.htm?pid=205653grab_id=0page_id=49698query=%22monotype%20sorts%22SCOPE=Fonts

http://www.fonts.com/findfonts/detail.htm?pid=201219grab_id=0page_id=29683query=%22zapf%20dingbats%22SCOPE=Fonts

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Re: Frame's future

2007-02-21 Thread John Posada
I'd expect that Adobe would not do it without some sort of financial
payment to framescript's developer.


--- Rick Quatro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 FrameScript's developer will not do this because it removes an
 incentive for 
 people to purchase FrameScript. Hundreds of scripts would be
 distributed 
 with no renumeration for FrameScript's developer. FrameScript is a
 bargain 
 at $149. Even the simplest scripts provide a quick payback in time
 savings. 

John Posada
Senior Technical Writer

I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've never 
actually known what the question is.
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Re: Forwarded message on TOC

2007-02-21 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 08:48 -0600 21/2/07, Michelle Anderson wrote:

Has anyone had an issue with TOCs in structure creating a very large paragraph 
tag for the last TOC entry? If so, how did you resolve? We are having this 
problem and cannot figure out how to correct it.
Otherwise, our TOC works greatŠ.if we could just rid this large paragraph tag 
that creates an ugly spacing issue

I don't have an answer but I am curious as to why you are creating structured 
TOCs, in that a book rebuild will deep-six your TOC structure?

Or maybe you meant that the problem was with an unstructured TOC in a 
structured book?

Just trying to learn...

[Someone will probably ask you what you mean by 'large']

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Size of the book window

2007-02-21 Thread Reng, Winfried Dr.
Hi,

FrameMaker 7.1p116

When I change the size of the book window this change
is only saved when I also change anything substantial
with the book, e.g. switch between the display of file
names and heading text. However, when I open the book
the next time, the book window has shrinked in both
dimensions. This happens again and again. Always when
I save the book window (after any real change such as
switching between file name/heading text), the width
and height is reduced.

Can anyone confirm this? Is this fixed in FM 7.2?

Best regards

Winfried
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RE: Need help building a para Warning tag

2007-02-21 Thread Combs, Richard
Ed Lightle wrote:
 
 I tried Richard Comb's method for putting graphics for 
 warning symbols on a reference page and creating 2-column 
 tables.  Everything worked great for printed output but the 
 graphics don't show up in my HTML Help output.  I found that 
 graphics not bounded by an anchored frame (on a body page, I 
 suppose) will not appear in the HTML output.  Is there any 
 way around this?

I'm sure there's a solution, but the specifics depend on how you're
creating the HTML. 

For instance, with Mif2Go, there's an [HTMLOptions] setting,
RemoveFramesAbove, that governs whether the Frame Above (ref page
graphic) for all pgfs is converted or ignored. You can also set this on
a per-pgf-format basis. 

I think in WWP, there's a mapping setting for what to do with Frame
Above. If not, you might need a macro to insert an img tag for the
graphic into the HTML. This should be pretty straightforward, assuming
your graphic is imported by reference and in a suitable file format for
HTML (GIF, JPEG, PNG). 

I don't know how (or if) ref page graphics are handled in ePP or Frame's
built-in HTML conversion. 

If you post info about what conversion tool you're using and what you've
tried, the experts in that tool can probably help. 

Richard


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Need a frame instructor next week

2007-02-21 Thread Sterling Ledet
Dear Framers:

I am hoping this is not spamming, so please correct me privately off list if
it's inappropriate.

I run a chain of Adobe training centers and I'm in a bit of a bind. Next
week is Adobe's training partner summit in San Jose, and I have six people
signed up for an open enrollment beginning FrameMaker class (all from
different companies) in Chicago, next Monday through Wednesday (Feb 26-28).
Since most of my main Frame contract trainers are going to be at the summit,
I'm wondering if anyone knows of anyone qualified to teach the class for us
next week. We are, of course, willing to pay travel in addition to training
fees, but are looking for someone in North America.

If anyone has any leads or is interested, please contact me off list at
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Thanks,

Sterling Ledet

 


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Re: Frame's future

2007-02-21 Thread Scott Prentice
If you're looking for the complete (as far as I know) list of plugins 
available for FrameMaker, check out our ToolSearch database ..


   http://www.leximation.com/toolsearch/?type=Pbaseapp=FM

This database includes tools other that FM plugins as well, but you can 
filter on specific types. If you know of plugins (or other interesting 
publishing-related tools), please let me know!


...scott

Scott Prentice
Leximation, Inc.
www.leximation.com
+1.415.485.1892



Gordon McLean wrote:

Whilst it may be wrong to compare this scenario to one offered by a free
product...

Firefox and extensions anyone? Add in some charges/licensing and you have
what seems to be a good model that is flexible enough for everyone involved,
including Adobe?

I agree with Shlomo, I think a lot of people use FM out of the box, and I'd
guess that it's largely because it's not made obvious that there ARE
plugins, and then once you are aware they exist, finding them can be quite
tricky (that list of Index plugins includes some I've never even heard
of...).

Gordon

-Original Message-
Subject: RE: Frame's future

Licensing and integrating existing plug-ins is an excellent way to extend
functionality of a core product. In response to Hedley's suggestion, I
mentioned the DITA and Apply Master Pages plug-ins as examples for plug-ins
that are already incorporated into FrameMaker.

There are many high-quality plug-ins out there that could significantly
improve the end user experience -- handling tables, indexing, markers,
conversion, manage formats, archiving, and many more. The FrameScript
runtime is also a great idea.

Even though some of the existing 3rd party add-ons are low cost (or even
free), my impression is that the vast majority of FrameMaker users use
FrameMaker as it comes out of the box (this is probably true with respect to
other products).


Shlomo Perets



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Track Changes plugin

2007-02-21 Thread obair81
Do folks recommend the Track Changes plugin for Frame 7.2?  

Thanks.

Paul
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RE: Need help building a para Warning tag - SOLVED

2007-02-21 Thread Ed Lightle

I found a way in WebWorks ePublisher 9.0's Style Designer to select the
warning graphic as a bullet for the Warning paragraph tag that uses the
graphic.  Maybe this overrides some of the other formatting for my
Warning table but the output looks just like it does in the FrameMaker
source, and I'm happy.

Thanks to everybody who provided advice!

Sincerely,
Ed Lightle
Sr. Techiical Writer
Command Alkon Inc.
 
Original Question:

I tried Richard Comb's method for putting graphics for warning symbols
on a reference page and creating 2-column tables.  Everything worked
great for printed output but the graphics don't show up in my HTML Help
output.  I found that graphics not bounded by an anchored frame (on a
body page, I suppose) will not appear in the HTML output.  Is there any
way around this?
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Fonts they are a-changing

2007-02-21 Thread Rene Stephenson
Hi All,
   
  We've received new corporate branding from the parent company that ripples 
into needing to update our FM templates with a new set of fonts. The branding 
specifies Helvetica / Helvetica Neue for copy and Rotis Sans Serif for 
headings. (I hear some groaning at the already-overused Helvetica...but the 
edict was issued by the Powers That Be.) I'm seeing several websites from which 
we could buy the fonts, but there are multiple options for purchase that 
frankly require a deeper understanding of how fonts are handled than I possess. 
sigh Having never worked in typesetting, I feel like I'm doing a freestyle 
stroke across the bay and hoping I don't sink. g
   
  We produce PDF (as well as WWHelp) from our FM (WinXP) source files, so we'll 
be needing to embed the fonts. I don't think we can embed fonts for the WWHelp 
- probably just have to stick with a san serif font family tag in the CSS - but 
I hope someone will correct me if that's not true. I know we'll definitely need 
to embed the fonts when creating the PDF. Languages to consider for support 
include English, Japanese, Spanish, and French. In the near future, we will 
have to support documentation for some customers in China, too. Some of our 
graphics are created in Adobe Illustrator on a Mac, but others are created on a 
PC in Corel Draw or Visio or AI. Graphics would have to use the new fonts for 
labels and call-outs.
   
  Is Helvetica different from Helvetica Neue and Neue Helvetica? I'm thinking 
Helvetica Neue (being new) is the same as Neue Helvetica, but somehow 
updated/augmented more than just plain old Helvetica?  Maybe Helvetica Neue 
would provide greater electronic flexibility? (Totally guessing...)
   
  I'm seeing Helvetica Neue in 2 volumes or 3 volumes or in a single volume, as 
a TTF, PS font, or OpenType; as a Family Pack, a Family Value Pack, or a Pro 
Family Pack...?  

  I'm only seeing Rotis Sans Serif as TTF or PS for Win/Mac, but looks like you 
either get the Family Pack or the Family Value Pack with fewer weights. I'm 
thinking we'd have more flexibility with a Family Pack of some flavor - but 
whether the Pro stuff would be desireable is beyond me.
   
  Excuse me, my ignorance is showing. Would someone please pass me a safety pin 
of enlightenment...?
   
  THANKS
  Rene Stephenson
   
   
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RE: Need help building a para Warning tag

2007-02-21 Thread Diane Gaskill
Ed,

The method I described a few days ago has the graphic in a reference frame
on the reference page. That frame is anchored and used in a para tag. I've
not tried converting it to HTML but I see no reason why it should not
convert correctly.  If you do not have the message I posted, let me know and
I'll send it to you offline.

Diane Gaskill
==

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Subject: Re: Need help building a para Warning tag



I tried Richard Comb's method for putting graphics for warning symbols
on a reference page and creating 2-column tables.  Everything worked
great for printed output but the graphics don't show up in my HTML Help
output.  I found that graphics not bounded by an anchored frame (on a
body page, I suppose) will not appear in the HTML output.  Is there any
way around this?

Thanks!
Ed Lightle
Sr. Technical Writer
Command Alkon Inc.
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Third-party or out of the box plugins [was re: Frame's future]

2007-02-21 Thread hedley . finger
Since my post about plugins diverted this thread from its original topic 
onto a discussion of the merits of plugins, may I amplify my remarks?

The original discussion was, generally, about what Adobe needed to do to 
find out what functionality their customers would need in the future.

I attempted to make the point that a study of the third-party plugins 
would indicate to Adobe the gaps in FrameMaker's functionality that they 
need to address, and chose indexing plugins as an example where there are 
many independent plugins to improve this functionality.  Indexing is 
surely a fundamental function of a publishing application, not bloatware 
as one correspondent implied.  I am not a professional indexer, but any 
user of Sky Index, Cindex, Authex, or Macrex will tell you how *fast* 
these tools are -- progressive matching against previous entries to speed 
up entry, real-time display of the compiled index, editing entries in the 
real-time display (e.g. dogs/feeding, dogs/breeds, dogs/shows can be 
quickly changed to canines/feeding, canines/breeds, canines/shows by 
changing the main entry dogs in one place), fast construction of sort 
order, application of char formats, view of entries in page order showing 
what entries are on what page, etc.**

These many plugins are surely a pointer to a need to improve the indexing 
functionality out of the box, either by Adobe developing this 
functionality to a level comparable to the standalone tools or by 
licensing in suitable third-party plugins.

While there are many ingenious plugins available that various people have 
developed to scratch an itch shared by only a few, FrameMaker customers 
should not have to hunt for third-party tools that address *fundamental* 
functionality.  I am sure that Frank Elmore would be happy to license 
FrameScript/ElmScript if Adobe were willing to pay an appropriate fee, for 
instance.

Regards,
Hedley


** Amazingly, none of these smart tools embed the entries in the source 
file as Word and FrameMaker do.  If the pagination changes there are some 
crude methods of reassigning page numbers but if, say, the pagination is 
radically different in a new edition (think of the various paperback, 
hardcover and coffee-table edition of Dava Sobel's Longitude) the index 
has to be manually recompiled! Truly!

--
Hedley Finger
Training Content Developer and Tools Specialist
MYOB Australia Pty Ltd http://myob.com/au
P.O. box 371   Blackburn VIC 3130   Australia
12 Wesley Court   Tally Ho Business Park   East Burwood VIC 3151 Australia
mailto:hedleyDOTfingerATmyobDOTcom
Tel. +61 3 9222 9992 x 7421,   Mob. (cell) +61 412 461 558

© MYOB Technology Pty Ltd 2007
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Re: Fonts they are a-changing

2007-02-21 Thread Rene Stephenson
Thanks, Guy. Yeah - me, too. Maybe it's because they only sent out the 
preliminary branding stuff, with the final due out in April. I did ask my 
upline (who told me to send him the purchase info whenever I find it), jumped 
to another branch and went up that line, too, but no answers so far.  We run 
into issues like this a lot, but I think it's just because we're a tiny little 
division of a huge international conglomerate that actually prohibits org 
charts.  (Laugh..but I'm not kidding.) Stuff kind of just trickles down and 
filters through.
   
  Often, however, they'll make very broad statements without a lot of specifics 
because their goal is to create a degree of uniformity without boxing in the 
different divisions and functions in ways that would inhibit their routine 
tasks. That might explain identifying a font family as a standard but going no 
further.
   
  Maybe I should just put this on the back burner for a few weeks, and when 
they start asking why things haven't changed yet, I'll finally be able to 
identify who has the answers. Or... maybe I should just let Windows Search do 
the walking through some of the huge network drives and see if I can sniff out 
some font files somewhere!  :-}
   
  Rene

Guy K. Haas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Rene--

I'm surprised that The Powers That Be did not suggest/recommend/specify 
a source for the fonts they are mandating. Is there someone up-line you 
can ask?

--Guy K. Haas
Software Exegete in Silicon Valley

Rene Stephenson wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 We've received new corporate branding from the parent company that ripples 
 into needing to update our FM templates with a new set of fonts. The branding 
 specifies Helvetica / Helvetica Neue for copy and Rotis Sans Serif for 
 headings. (I hear some groaning at the already-overused Helvetica...but the 
 edict was issued by the Powers That Be.) I'm seeing several websites from 
 which we could buy the fonts, but there are multiple options for purchase 
 that frankly require a deeper understanding of how fonts are handled than I 
 possess. Having never worked in typesetting, I feel like I'm doing a 
 freestyle stroke across the bay and hoping I don't sink. 


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Daylight savings 3 weeks earlier in US

2007-02-21 Thread Gillian Flato
Don't know if you guys have seen this but Daylight Savings is now 3
weeks earlier in the US. You will have to manually reset your computers.

 
 
Read the story here.
 
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2007/02/21/MNGASO8BQ
11.DTL
 
Here's microsoft's info on how to update networks.
 
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/timezone/dst2007.mspx?wt_svl=20277amg_
id=20277b
 

Thank you,

 

mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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Technical Writer (Software)

nanometrics

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Milpitas, CA. 95035

(408.435.9600 x 316

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problems with master pages in 7.2

2007-02-21 Thread Elisa Sawyer

I'm trying to completely remove room for sideheads from a set of Frame
7.2 files. In the O'Keefe and Loring Complete Reference, it mentions
that there should be a pop-up that asks me whether I want to remove
the master page overrides. It's not happening, and the room for
sideheads is still there even though Frame tells me there are no
overrides. any ideas?

--
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All true things must change, and only that which changes remains
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Re: problems with master pages in 7.2

2007-02-21 Thread Rene Stephenson
Clarifying... You have no sideheads in any text flows on any master pages, but 
when you reapply master pages, you don't get prompted to remove overrides, and 
yet the sideheads persist...?
   
  If I'm correctly understanding your case, I'd try opening the template that 
has no sideheads and do File  Import page layouts with both remove options 
selected. If that doesn't fix it, I'd start prowling through the paragraph 
designer to make sure that none of the paragraph formats use the pagination 
setting for Side Head-Alignment.
   
  Try those, if you haven't already...
  HTH
  Rene Stephenson

Elisa Sawyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I'm trying to completely remove room for sideheads from a set of Frame
7.2 files. In the O'Keefe and Loring Complete Reference, it mentions
that there should be a pop-up that asks me whether I want to remove
the master page overrides. It's not happening, and the room for
sideheads is still there even though Frame tells me there are no
overrides. any ideas?

-- 
Elisa R. Sawyer
~^~
Senior Technical Writer
All true things must change, and only that which changes remains
true. -- Carl Jung
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RE: Daylight savings 3 weeks earlier in US

2007-02-21 Thread Dov Isaacs
Unless you are running Windows 2000 (or earlier) OR
you don't apply the Windows XP updates from Microsoft
in a timely fashion, you don't need to do anything.
The fix is already applied to your system in Windows XP
and the change was built into Windows Vista.

- Dov 

 -Original Message-
 From: Gillian Flato
 Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 3:27 PM
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Daylight savings 3 weeks earlier in US
 
 Don't know if you guys have seen this but Daylight Savings is now 3
 weeks earlier in the US. You will have to manually reset your 
 computers.
 
  
  
 Read the story here.
  
 http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2007/02/21
 /MNGASO8BQ
 11.DTL
  
 Here's microsoft's info on how to update networks.
  
 http://www.microsoft.com/windows/timezone/dst2007.mspx?wt_svl=
 20277amg_
 id=20277b
  
 
 Thank you,
 
  
 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 Gillian Flato
 
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Re: Daylight savings 3 weeks earlier in US

2007-02-21 Thread Karen Mardahl

For many people, their IT staff get all the fun. :-)

Here is another FYI article about the computers:
http://www.computer.org/portal/pages/itpro/content/Daylight_Saving_Time_2007.html
Wikipedia has a slew of articles at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time

Here is a useful link about how it can affect your meeting schedules
around the globe:
http://www.timeanddate.com/time/dst2007a.html

regards, Karen Mardahl

On 2/22/07, Dov Isaacs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Unless you are running Windows 2000 (or earlier) OR
you don't apply the Windows XP updates from Microsoft
in a timely fashion, you don't need to do anything.
The fix is already applied to your system in Windows XP
and the change was built into Windows Vista.

- Dov

 -Original Message-
 From: Gillian Flato

 Don't know if you guys have seen this but Daylight Savings is now 3
 weeks earlier in the US. You will have to manually reset your
 computers.

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Re: problems with master pages in 7.2

2007-02-21 Thread Elisa Sawyer

Thanks!

I had been looking at the offending paragraphs, the ones that were
actually indented, and after reading your response, I realized that
the Headers perhaps needed to be re-set to in column.

Yay

On 2/21/07, Rene Stephenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Clarifying... You have no sideheads in any text flows on any master pages,
but when you reapply master pages, you don't get prompted to remove
overrides, and yet the sideheads persist...?

If I'm correctly understanding your case, I'd try opening the template that
has no sideheads and do File  Import page layouts with both remove options
selected. If that doesn't fix it, I'd start prowling through the paragraph
designer to make sure that none of the paragraph formats use the pagination
setting for Side Head-Alignment.

Try those, if you haven't already...
HTH
Rene Stephenson


Elisa Sawyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm trying to completely remove room for sideheads from a set of Frame
7.2 files. In the O'Keefe and Loring Complete Reference, it mentions
that there should be a pop-up that asks me whether I want to remove
the master page overrides. It's not happening, and the room for
sideheads is still there even though Frame tells me there are no
overrides. any ideas?

--
Elisa R. Sawyer
~^~
Senior Technical Writer
All true things must change, and only that which changes remains
true. -- Carl Jung
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Re: Fonts they are a-changing

2007-02-21 Thread Guy K. Haas

Rene--

I'm surprised that The Powers That Be did not suggest/recommend/specify 
a source for the fonts they are mandating.  Is there someone up-line you 
can ask?


--Guy K. Haas
  Software Exegete in Silicon Valley

Rene Stephenson wrote:

Hi All,
   
  We've received new corporate branding from the parent company that ripples into needing to update our FM templates with a new set of fonts. The branding specifies Helvetica / Helvetica Neue for copy and Rotis Sans Serif for headings. (I hear some groaning at the already-overused Helvetica...but the edict was issued by the Powers That Be.) I'm seeing several websites from which we could buy the fonts, but there are multiple options for purchase that frankly require a deeper understanding of how fonts are handled than I possess. sigh Having never worked in typesetting, I feel like I'm doing a freestyle stroke across the bay and hoping I don't sink. g


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Frame Cross-Ref source jumps to top of page in PDF created using Actrobat

2007-02-21 Thread Tarlochan S. Nahal
  Hi Framers!
   
  This is my first message to a Frame users group after a long absence.
   
  Maybe you have dealt with this problem before. I am using FM 7.2.
   
  I created a pdf file using the Adobe Acrobat 8 Professional.
   
  When I click on the figure cross-reference, it takes me to the source of the 
cross reference (Figure title) which hangs on the top of the page, showing only 
the figure title. The figure stays hidden. I need to scroll up to see the 
figure. In my Frame document, the figure title is never on top of the page; it 
is always below the frame.
   
  Can someone share with me what might be causing this problem and how to avoid 
this?
   
  Thanks,
  
Tarlochan S. Nahal

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FML Announces PatternStream Software Version 2.3 Release

2007-02-21 Thread Marjorie Mayo
 


FML Announces PatternStream(R) Software Version 2.3 Release

GOOCHLAND, VA -- (MARKET WIRE) -- 02/06/2007 -- Finite Matters Ltd.
(FML) today announced that PatternStream version 2.3
http://www.patternstream.com/  is available. 

This upgrade includes a full range of dynamic graph capabilities and
improved XML importation, processing, and generation capabilities. Other
functional enhancements simplify automated publishing setup and control.
A newly revised and comprehensive PatternStream user manual and new
on-line help are included with the upgrade. 

In addition, PatternStream 2.3 will include FML's new DataProber(tm)
software release 1.0
http://www.patternstream.com/Products/DataProber.htm . DataProber
allows users to connect to any ODBC data sources and OLAP for Microsoft
SQL Server Analysis Services and view data structures, query data, and
view and copy result sets. 

These enhancements are the product of customer input and requests and
FML's vision for PatternStream. 

We really listen to our users and are constantly working to keep
PatternStream the leading software solution for automated database
publishing, said Ben Slone, FML's President and CEO. Continual
implementation of user suggestions helps FML meet and surpass our
customers' publishing expectations and needs. 

PatternStream integrates with Adobe(r) FrameMaker(r) and FrameMaker
Server http://www.patternstream.com/About_PatternStream/framemaker.htm
to enable users to publish to print and electronic files. PatternStream
can be used on computers ranging from laptops to intranet servers to
provide any level of data-driven publishing required by small to
enterprise entities. Output file formats include PDF, Adobe
PostScript(r), HTML, and XML. 

About FML 

FML offers quality, cost-effective database and automated publishing and
information management solutions for the private sector, government, and
organizations. FML has extensive experience and expertise in
implementing a wide variety of complex database and automated publishing
systems. 

Customers include Amcor Sunclipse, Columbia Books, eMap, F+W
Publications, Health Net, Inc., Honeywell, Hutton Communications, IMI
Cornelius, MediQual, MFS, Mayo Foundation, McGraw-Hill, New Zealand
Exchange, Nicor Gas, RAAF AIS, Square D Company, Standard  Poor's, and
the University of San Francisco. 

FML is the leader in state and local government budget database
publishing and is used to publish city, county, school district, and
state budgets and other financial information by governments in fifteen
states and Canada. 

PatternStream is also used to publish budget, financial, and statistical
information for federal government departments and agencies including
the Department of Defense and the intelligence community. 

FML has working relationships with Adobe Systems, Inc., CACI, CGI, IBM,
and Oracle to resell and support PatternStream implementations and
enhancements. 

PatternStream will continue to revolutionize automated publishing. For
more information, contact Marjorie Mayo at 888-230-1365 and visit
www.patternstream.com. 

 

 

 

 

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RE: Fonts they are a-changing

2007-02-21 Thread Dov Isaacs
I would strongly concur with Guy's advice.

There are dozens upon dozens of fonts available with
the names Helvetica and Helvetica-Neue from different
sources (including Adobe and Linotype) as well as 
fonts with those names bundled with the MacOS.

HOWEVER, despite the same names, there differences
between them, whether in the character sets, mappings,
embedding privileges, font metrics, etc.

Unless you standardize on a particular version of
any font and enforce use of that version, you are
being setup for disasters including missing text,
wrong text, relayout, etc., especially when everything
is supposed to come together for PDF file production,
printing, or both.

- Dov 

 -Original Message-
 From: Guy K. Haas
 Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 12:54 PM
 To: Rene Stephenson
 Cc: framers@frameusers.com
 Subject: Re: Fonts they are a-changing
 
 Rene--
 
 I'm surprised that The Powers That Be did not 
 suggest/recommend/specify a source for the fonts they are 
 mandating.  Is there someone up-line you can ask?
 
 --Guy K. Haas
Software Exegete in Silicon Valley
 
 Rene Stephenson wrote:
  Hi All,
 
We've received new corporate branding from the parent 
 company that 
  ripples into needing to update our FM templates with a new set of 
  fonts. The branding specifies Helvetica / Helvetica Neue 
 for copy and 
  Rotis Sans Serif for headings. (I hear some groaning at the 
  already-overused Helvetica...but the edict was issued by the Powers 
  That Be.) I'm seeing several websites from which we could buy the 
  fonts, but there are multiple options for purchase that frankly 
  require a deeper understanding of how fonts are handled than I 
  possess. sigh Having never worked in typesetting, I feel like I'm 
  doing a freestyle stroke across the bay and hoping I don't sink. g
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RE: Daylight savings 3 weeks earlier in US

2007-02-21 Thread Charles Beck
I've heard about this and can't help but wonder why MS can't develop and
issue a patch that would fix the calendar/date functionality in Windows.
Anyone care to offer a non-cynical speculation? (I'm cynical enough to
handle that requirement by myself...)

Chuck Beck 
Sr. Technical Writer | Infor | Office: 614.523.7302 |
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Gillian Flato
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 6:27 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Daylight savings 3 weeks earlier in US

Don't know if you guys have seen this but Daylight Savings is now 3
weeks earlier in the US. You will have to manually reset your computers.

 
 
Read the story here.
 
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2007/02/21/MNGASO8BQ
11.DTL
 
Here's microsoft's info on how to update networks.
 
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/timezone/dst2007.mspx?wt_svl=20277amg_
id=20277b
 

Thank you,

 

mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Gillian Flato

Technical Writer (Software)

nanometrics

1550 Buckeye Dr. 

Milpitas, CA. 95035

(408.435.9600 x 316

7  408.232.5911

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Re: Daylight savings 3 weeks earlier in US

2007-02-21 Thread Bill Briggs
At 3:27 PM -0800 2/21/07, Gillian Flato wrote:
Don't know if you guys have seen this but Daylight Savings is now 3
weeks earlier in the US. You will have to manually reset your computers.

 Not if you use a Mac. There was an OS update that fixed this. It's all going 
to happen automatically, as in the past.

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Structured Frame s-l-o-w-l-y opening a document

2007-02-21 Thread Trevor Nicholls
Hi

I was interested to read the recent discussions about (why/why not) use
structured Framemaker. I started with Framemaker at version 7.2, have never
known anything but structured authoring, and adopting unstructured authoring
doesn't appeal to me as a positive move in any way. However, that's by the
by.

I have an application which uses structured Frame as its document editor.
The documents themselves are stored as XML files and, apart from one
bottleneck, the application works satisfactorily. That bottleneck is the
time taken by Frame to open an XML document.

Illustrative timings:
On a 1.7GHz/1Gb machine: 85 seconds from 'File > Open > myfile.xml' to being
presented with the document in Framemaker.
On a 3.5GHz/2Gb machine: 60 seconds.

Framemaker runs an XSL step which tweaks the XML for Frame (wrapping graphic
elements inside , adjusting table contents, pulling included
subfiles inline, etc.). Xalan runs this stylesheet outside of Frame in less
than 4 seconds. (Just in case this isn't widely known, Frame uses a version
of Xalan as its XSL engine.)

If I load the file, clear the structured application, and save the full
document as a .FM file, then re-start Frame, I can start editing the
document within 5 seconds of entering 'File > Open > myfile.fm'.

So the document load time breaks down into:
 4 seconds to run the initial XSL
 76 seconds for Frame to put the temporary XML file into native FM form
 5 seconds to load the FM document

Although "myfile.xml" is small, pulling in all the included subdocuments
produces a document of some 500 pages or so. I'm not expecting the file load
process to be instantaneous, but a minute and a half is unacceptable. 

What options do I have, if any, for reducing the 76 second overhead?

Cheers
Trevor





Frame's future

2007-02-21 Thread hedley.fin...@myob.com
Another thing Adobe could do is look at all the plug-ins and mods that 
various people have come up with to scratch an itch -- or stem a raging 
haemorrhage.  For example, there are a whole bunch of indexing tools -- 
IXgen, emDex, Index Tools Pro, IndexRef, etc. -- suggesting that there is 
a crying need for a decent indexing interface on  a par with Cindex or Sky 
Index.

Regards,
Hedley

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MYOB Australia Pty Ltd 
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12 Wesley Court   Tally Ho Business Park   East Burwood VIC 3151 Australia

Tel. +61 3 9222 9992 x 7421,   Mob. (cell) +61 412 461 558

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Printed Copies of Uncontrolled Online Documentation

2007-02-21 Thread ecid...@zoominternet.net

   Hello Fellow Framers and Acrobats alike


   Back into   am pos   me

   Scenario:


   1. I create a document in FrameMaker which is rendered to a PDF and  
 on a website.
2. When viewing the PDF online, it look   after page of outstanding 
content.
3. When printing the PDF, either at the bottom or top or "somewh   
appears a statement such as "Pursuant to company policy,   Uncontrolled 
Copy of the XYZ Manual"

   Questi

   Using only the available tools I have:  Fram   how can I make this happen?



   I know I've seen this somewhere but as I said, after 3 years away   remember.


   Assistance rendered will rece

   All the best!


   Eduardo



Frame's future

2007-02-21 Thread Shlomo Perets

Hedley Finger wrote:

 > Another thing Adobe could do is look at all the plug-ins and mods that
 > various people have come up with to scratch an itch -- or stem a raging
 > haemorrhage.  For example, there are a whole bunch of indexing tools --
 > IXgen, emDex, Index Tools Pro, IndexRef, etc. -- suggesting that there is
 > a crying need for a decent indexing interface on  a par with Cindex or Sky
 > Index.

FrameMaker 7.2 DITA support is "Based on a core plugin developed and 
maintained by Leximation" (quoted from the DITA > About window). In fact, 
my FrameMaker console tells me that the beta period for this component has 
expired, and that I should contact Leximation for an update (even though it 
was downloaded from Adobe).

FrameMaker 7.x "Apply Master Pages" is also based on a plug-in.


David Eason wrote: (in response to Hedley)

 > You named several indexing tools. I have been very comfortable with
 > Index Tools Pro. How do you rate (and rank) the tools you named for
 > usability, flexibility, user-friendliness, adaptability to Stuctured
 > Frame, and other characteristics?

See http://www.microtype.com/links.html for links to in-depth reviews of 
the various indexing add-ons.


Shlomo Perets

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FrameMaker/Acrobat training & consulting * FrameMaker-to-Acrobat 
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Frame's future

2007-02-21 Thread Shlomo Perets

You wrote:

>Please update to a current version of the FrameMaker Application Pack
>for DITA.
>
> > FrameMaker 7.2 DITA support is "Based on a core plugin developed and
> > maintained by Leximation" (quoted from the DITA > About window).
>
>Is this a problem? Adobe picked a great starting point for the app pack,
>in my opinion.
>
> > In fact, my FrameMaker console tells me that the beta period for this
> > component has expired, and that I should contact Leximation for an
> > update (even though it was downloaded from Adobe).
>
>Then you are using an old version. The second beta should not have this
>issue.


Licensing and integrating existing plug-ins is an excellent way to extend 
functionality of a core product. In response to Hedley's suggestion, I 
mentioned the DITA and Apply Master Pages plug-ins as examples for plug-ins 
that are already incorporated into FrameMaker.

There are many high-quality plug-ins out there that could significantly 
improve the end user experience -- handling tables, indexing, markers, 
conversion, manage formats, archiving, and many more. The FrameScript 
runtime is also a great idea.

Even though some of the existing 3rd party add-ons are low cost (or even 
free), my impression is that the vast majority of FrameMaker users use 
FrameMaker as it comes out of the box (this is probably true with respect 
to other products).


Shlomo Perets

MicroType, http://www.microtype.com * ToolbarPlus Express for FrameMaker
FrameMaker/Acrobat training & consulting * FrameMaker-to-Acrobat 
TimeSavers/Assistants






Need help building a para Warning tag

2007-02-21 Thread Caroline Tabach
I don?t know quite how you are making HTML help, but many applications have the 
possibility to use a different type of style in a help project from the Frame 
file, (sometimes by applying a different template)

Caroline?Tabach
Technical/Marcom Writer


??? 
Fax: +972 3 6474681
Email:?? caroline at radcom.com
www.radcom.com
www.protocols.com


-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+caroline=radcom.com at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-bounces+caroline=radcom@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of 
Ed Lightle
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 10:36 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Cc: richard.combs at Polycom.com
Subject: Re: Need help building a para Warning tag


I tried Richard Comb's method for putting graphics for warning symbols
on a reference page and creating 2-column tables.  Everything worked
great for printed output but the graphics don't show up in my HTML Help
output.  I found that graphics not bounded by an anchored frame (on a
body page, I suppose) will not appear in the HTML output.  Is there any
way around this?

Thanks!
Ed Lightle
Sr. Technical Writer
Command Alkon Inc.
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Frame's future

2007-02-21 Thread Gordon McLean
Whilst it may be wrong to compare this scenario to one offered by a free
product...

Firefox and extensions anyone? Add in some charges/licensing and you have
what seems to be a good model that is flexible enough for everyone involved,
including Adobe?

I agree with Shlomo, I think a lot of people use FM out of the box, and I'd
guess that it's largely because it's not made obvious that there ARE
plugins, and then once you are aware they exist, finding them can be quite
tricky (that list of Index plugins includes some I've never even heard
of...).

Gordon

-Original Message-
Subject: RE: Frame's future

Licensing and integrating existing plug-ins is an excellent way to extend
functionality of a core product. In response to Hedley's suggestion, I
mentioned the DITA and Apply Master Pages plug-ins as examples for plug-ins
that are already incorporated into FrameMaker.

There are many high-quality plug-ins out there that could significantly
improve the end user experience -- handling tables, indexing, markers,
conversion, manage formats, archiving, and many more. The FrameScript
runtime is also a great idea.

Even though some of the existing 3rd party add-ons are low cost (or even
free), my impression is that the vast majority of FrameMaker users use
FrameMaker as it comes out of the box (this is probably true with respect to
other products).


Shlomo Perets



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Linking HTML files from FrameMaker source

2007-02-21 Thread Jaya Ghosh
Hello,





Can I create a hypertext from the source FrameMaker file to an html file in
a different location? If so HOW?



Please note the htmls are located in the product installation path and
varies from user to user.



I tried using the gotolink, message url et all nothing works as it seems
that FM converts the relative path to absolute path.



Help is appreciated.



Regards,

Jaya








Structured Frame s-l-o-w-l-y opening a document

2007-02-21 Thread r...@weststreetconsulting.com
Trevor,

This is my experience with long XML files as well.  I'm pretty sure it is 
caused by the application of formatting by the EDD, which takes some time when 
it has to evaluate formatting rules element-by-element for 500 pages.  It 
doesn't need to do this for a .FM file, because the formatting metadata is 
already assigned in the binary.  So, I think it's just the nature of the tool, 
and your complaint is quite reasonable.  At the FrameMaker Chautauqua, I 
mentioned this problem to the development manager, and have subsequently made 
it a personal rule-of-thumb to keep all XML files less than 100 pages (as 
formatted).

I don't know what the real answer might be, but I'm confident that this 
handicap (among others) will have to change if FrameMaker wants to stay a 
serious contender in the XML space.

Russ

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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 01:49:36 +1300
From: "Trevor Nicholls" 
Subject: Structured Frame s-l-o-w-l-y opening a document
To: 
Message-ID: <000501c754ed$944460c0$0401010a at TREVOR>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hi

I was interested to read the recent discussions about (why/why not) use
structured Framemaker. I started with Framemaker at version 7.2, have never
known anything but structured authoring, and adopting unstructured authoring
doesn't appeal to me as a positive move in any way. However, that's by the
by.

I have an application which uses structured Frame as its document editor.
The documents themselves are stored as XML files and, apart from one
bottleneck, the application works satisfactorily. That bottleneck is the
time taken by Frame to open an XML document.

Illustrative timings:
On a 1.7GHz/1Gb machine: 85 seconds from 'File > Open > myfile.xml' to being
presented with the document in Framemaker.
On a 3.5GHz/2Gb machine: 60 seconds.

Framemaker runs an XSL step which tweaks the XML for Frame (wrapping graphic
elements inside , adjusting table contents, pulling included
subfiles inline, etc.). Xalan runs this stylesheet outside of Frame in less
than 4 seconds. (Just in case this isn't widely known, Frame uses a version
of Xalan as its XSL engine.)

If I load the file, clear the structured application, and save the full
document as a .FM file, then re-start Frame, I can start editing the
document within 5 seconds of entering 'File > Open > myfile.fm'.

So the document load time breaks down into:
4 seconds to run the initial XSL
76 seconds for Frame to put the temporary XML file into native FM form
5 seconds to load the FM document

Although "myfile.xml" is small, pulling in all the included subdocuments
produces a document of some 500 pages or so. I'm not expecting the file load
process to be instantaneous, but a minute and a half is unacceptable. 

What options do I have, if any, for reducing the 76 second overhead?

Cheers
Trevor






Oops! Look ma, no fonts!

2007-02-21 Thread David Creamer
> Windings of one sort or another have come with Windows for a long time, I
> think, but none of them are the same as, comparable with, or versions of, Zapf
> Dingbats, which is a completely different symbol font, work of Hermann Zapf,
> one of the 20th C's more eminent font designers.

I could be wrong, but I believe that Monotype Sorts is the Windows TT
knock-off of Zapf Dingbats. I don't think it is installed by default, but
with additional fonts during a custom install.


David Creamer
I.D.E.A.S. - Results-Oriented Training
http://www.IDEAStraining.com
Adobe Certified Trainer & Expert (since 1995)
Authorized Quark Training Provider (since 1988)
Markzware, Enfocus, FileMaker Certified
Apple Consultant Network member (since 1990)





Printed Copies of Uncontrolled Online Documentation

2007-02-21 Thread Shlomo Perets
Eduardo,

You wrote:

 > ...
 > 1. I create a document in FrameMaker which is rendered to a PDF and posted
 >on a website.
 > 2. When viewing the PDF online, it looks okay, nothing remarkablepage
 >after page of outstanding content.
 > 3. When printing the PDF, either at the bottom or top or "somewhere"
 >appears a statement such as "Pursuant to company policy, this is an
 >Uncontrolled Copy of the XYZ Manual"

 > Question:
 > Using only the available tools I have:  FrameMaker 7.1 and Acrobat 5.5,
 > how can I make this happen?


-- In Acrobat, add a form field (type = text field) with the text and 
formatting you like.
In the field properties, you'll be able to choose between: visible | 
visible, not printed | hidden | hidden, printed
(I don't have easy access to Acrobat 5.0.5, so cannot quote the specific 
labels).

-- Choose "hidden but printed".

-- Duplicate the field to all other pages (can done with one action through 
the menu).


Shlomo Perets

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Oops! Look ma, no fonts!

2007-02-21 Thread Shlomo Perets
David Creamer wrote:

 > I could be wrong, but I believe that Monotype Sorts is the Windows TT
 > knock-off of Zapf Dingbats. I don't think it is installed by default, but
 > with additional fonts during a custom install.


Visit http://www.microsoft.com/typography/fonts/default.aspx to find out 
which fonts are included in different Microsoft products/OS (by font or by 
product).

[ http://www.microsoft.com/typography is the MS Typography home page with 
interesting font-related information and utilities]


Shlomo Perets

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Forwarded message on TOC

2007-02-21 Thread Michelle Anderson
This is a forwarded message that had difficulty getting to the list  
so I am posting it for them. Please respond to the list so that the  
individual can gain insight and get their question answered. Thanks-


Has anyone had an issue with TOCs in structure creating a very large  
paragraph tag for the last TOC entry? If so, how did you resolve? We  
are having this problem and cannot figure out how to correct it.   
Otherwise, our TOC works great?.if we could just rid this large  
paragraph tag that creates an ugly spacing issue! Thank you!!


Oops! Look ma, no fonts!

2007-02-21 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 05:58 -0800 21/2/07, David Creamer wrote:
>I could be wrong, but I believe that Monotype Sorts is the Windows TT
>knock-off of Zapf Dingbats. I don't think it is installed by default, but
>with additional fonts during a custom install.

Yes, looks like it...





-- 
Steve



Frame's future

2007-02-21 Thread John Posada
I'd expect that Adobe would not do it without some sort of financial
payment to framescript's developer.


--- Rick Quatro  wrote:

> FrameScript's developer will not do this because it removes an
> incentive for 
> people to purchase FrameScript. Hundreds of scripts would be
> distributed 
> with no renumeration for FrameScript's developer. FrameScript is a
> bargain 
> at $149. Even the simplest scripts provide a quick payback in time
> savings. 

John Posada
Senior Technical Writer

"I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've never 
actually known what the question is."



Forwarded message on TOC

2007-02-21 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 08:48 -0600 21/2/07, Michelle Anderson wrote:

>Has anyone had an issue with TOCs in structure creating a very large paragraph 
>tag for the last TOC entry? If so, how did you resolve? We are having this 
>problem and cannot figure out how to correct it.  
>Otherwise, our TOC works great?.if we could just rid this large paragraph tag 
>that creates an ugly spacing issue

I don't have an answer but I am curious as to why you are creating structured 
TOCs, in that a book rebuild will deep-six your TOC structure?

Or maybe you meant that the problem was with an unstructured TOC in a 
structured book?

Just trying to learn...

[Someone will probably ask you what you mean by 'large']

-- 
Steve



Size of the book window

2007-02-21 Thread Reng, Winfried Dr.
Hi,

FrameMaker 7.1p116

When I change the size of the book window this change
is only saved when I also change anything substantial
with the book, e.g. switch between the display of file
names and heading text. However, when I open the book
the next time, the book window has shrinked in both
dimensions. This happens again and again. Always when
I save the book window (after any real change such as
switching between file name/heading text), the width
and height is reduced.

Can anyone confirm this? Is this fixed in FM 7.2?

Best regards

Winfried



Need help building a para Warning tag

2007-02-21 Thread Combs, Richard
Ed Lightle wrote:

> I tried Richard Comb's method for putting graphics for 
> warning symbols on a reference page and creating 2-column 
> tables.  Everything worked great for printed output but the 
> graphics don't show up in my HTML Help output.  I found that 
> graphics not bounded by an anchored frame (on a body page, I 
> suppose) will not appear in the HTML output.  Is there any 
> way around this?

I'm sure there's a solution, but the specifics depend on how you're
creating the HTML. 

For instance, with Mif2Go, there's an [HTMLOptions] setting,
RemoveFramesAbove, that governs whether the Frame Above (ref page
graphic) for all pgfs is converted or ignored. You can also set this on
a per-pgf-format basis. 

I think in WWP, there's a mapping setting for what to do with Frame
Above. If not, you might need a macro to insert an  tag for the
graphic into the HTML. This should be pretty straightforward, assuming
your graphic is imported by reference and in a suitable file format for
HTML (GIF, JPEG, PNG). 

I don't know how (or if) ref page graphics are handled in ePP or Frame's
built-in HTML conversion. 

If you post info about what conversion tool you're using and what you've
tried, the experts in that tool can probably help. 

Richard


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Polycom, Inc.
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303-223-5111
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Need a frame instructor next week

2007-02-21 Thread Sterling Ledet
Dear Framers:

I am hoping this is not spamming, so please correct me privately off list if
it's inappropriate.

I run a chain of Adobe training centers and I'm in a bit of a bind. Next
week is Adobe's training partner summit in San Jose, and I have six people
signed up for an open enrollment beginning FrameMaker class (all from
different companies) in Chicago, next Monday through Wednesday (Feb 26-28).
Since most of my main Frame contract trainers are going to be at the summit,
I'm wondering if anyone knows of anyone qualified to teach the class for us
next week. We are, of course, willing to pay travel in addition to training
fees, but are looking for someone in North America.

If anyone has any leads or is interested, please contact me off list at
jobs at ledet.com.

Thanks,

Sterling Ledet







Frame's future

2007-02-21 Thread Scott Prentice
If you're looking for the complete (as far as I know) list of plugins 
available for FrameMaker, check out our ToolSearch database ..

http://www.leximation.com/toolsearch/?type=P=FM

This database includes tools other that FM plugins as well, but you can 
filter on specific types. If you know of plugins (or other interesting 
publishing-related tools), please let me know!

...scott

Scott Prentice
Leximation, Inc.
www.leximation.com
+1.415.485.1892



Gordon McLean wrote:
> Whilst it may be wrong to compare this scenario to one offered by a free
> product...
>
> Firefox and extensions anyone? Add in some charges/licensing and you have
> what seems to be a good model that is flexible enough for everyone involved,
> including Adobe?
>
> I agree with Shlomo, I think a lot of people use FM out of the box, and I'd
> guess that it's largely because it's not made obvious that there ARE
> plugins, and then once you are aware they exist, finding them can be quite
> tricky (that list of Index plugins includes some I've never even heard
> of...).
>
> Gordon
>
> -Original Message-
> Subject: RE: Frame's future
>
> Licensing and integrating existing plug-ins is an excellent way to extend
> functionality of a core product. In response to Hedley's suggestion, I
> mentioned the DITA and Apply Master Pages plug-ins as examples for plug-ins
> that are already incorporated into FrameMaker.
>
> There are many high-quality plug-ins out there that could significantly
> improve the end user experience -- handling tables, indexing, markers,
> conversion, manage formats, archiving, and many more. The FrameScript
> runtime is also a great idea.
>
> Even though some of the existing 3rd party add-ons are low cost (or even
> free), my impression is that the vast majority of FrameMaker users use
> FrameMaker as it comes out of the box (this is probably true with respect to
> other products).
>
>
> Shlomo Perets
>
>
> 
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> within this mail are solely the view of the author and do not reflect the 
> views of the organisation
> as a whole.
> 
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> Registered Office India of Inchinnan, Renfrewshire, Scotland PA4 9LH
> 
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> 
>
>   




Track Changes plugin

2007-02-21 Thread obai...@comcast.net
Do folks recommend the Track Changes plugin for Frame 7.2?  

Thanks.

Paul



Need help building a para Warning tag - SOLVED

2007-02-21 Thread Ed Lightle

I found a way in WebWorks ePublisher 9.0's Style Designer to select the
warning graphic as a bullet for the Warning paragraph tag that uses the
graphic.  Maybe this overrides some of the other formatting for my
Warning table but the output looks just like it does in the FrameMaker
source, and I'm happy.

Thanks to everybody who provided advice!

Sincerely,
Ed Lightle
Sr. Techiical Writer
Command Alkon Inc.

Original Question:

I tried Richard Comb's method for putting graphics for warning symbols
on a reference page and creating 2-column tables.  Everything worked
great for printed output but the graphics don't show up in my HTML Help
output.  I found that graphics not bounded by an anchored frame (on a
body page, I suppose) will not appear in the HTML output.  Is there any
way around this?



Fonts they are a-changing

2007-02-21 Thread Rene Stephenson
Hi All,

  We've received new corporate branding from the "parent company" that ripples 
into needing to update our FM templates with a new set of fonts. The branding 
specifies Helvetica / Helvetica Neue for copy and Rotis Sans Serif for 
headings. (I hear some groaning at the already-overused Helvetica...but the 
edict was issued by the Powers That Be.) I'm seeing several websites from which 
we could buy the fonts, but there are multiple options for purchase that 
frankly require a deeper understanding of how fonts are handled than I possess. 
 Having never worked in typesetting, I feel like I'm doing a freestyle 
stroke across the bay and hoping I don't sink. 

  We produce PDF (as well as WWHelp) from our FM (WinXP) source files, so we'll 
be needing to embed the fonts. I don't think we can embed fonts for the WWHelp 
- probably just have to stick with a san serif font family tag in the CSS - but 
I hope someone will correct me if that's not true. I know we'll definitely need 
to embed the fonts when creating the PDF. Languages to consider for support 
include English, Japanese, Spanish, and French. In the near future, we will 
have to support documentation for some customers in China, too. Some of our 
graphics are created in Adobe Illustrator on a Mac, but others are created on a 
PC in Corel Draw or Visio or AI. Graphics would have to use the new fonts for 
labels and call-outs.

  Is Helvetica different from Helvetica Neue and Neue Helvetica? I'm thinking 
Helvetica Neue (being "new") is the same as Neue Helvetica, but somehow 
updated/augmented more than just "plain old" Helvetica?  Maybe Helvetica Neue 
would provide greater electronic flexibility? (Totally guessing...)

  I'm seeing Helvetica Neue in 2 volumes or 3 volumes or in a single volume, as 
a TTF, PS font, or OpenType; as a Family Pack, a Family Value Pack, or a Pro 
Family Pack...?  

  I'm only seeing Rotis Sans Serif as TTF or PS for Win/Mac, but looks like you 
either get the Family Pack or the Family Value Pack with fewer weights. I'm 
thinking we'd have more flexibility with a Family Pack of some flavor - but 
whether the Pro stuff would be desireable is beyond me.

  Excuse me, my ignorance is showing. Would someone please pass me a safety pin 
of enlightenment...?

  THANKS
  Rene Stephenson





Need help building a para Warning tag

2007-02-21 Thread Diane Gaskill
Ed,

The method I described a few days ago has the graphic in a reference frame
on the reference page. That frame is anchored and used in a para tag. I've
not tried converting it to HTML but I see no reason why it should not
convert correctly.  If you do not have the message I posted, let me know and
I'll send it to you offline.

Diane Gaskill
==

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+dgcaller=earthlink@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+dgcaller=earthlink.net at lists.frameusers.com]On
Behalf Of Ed Lightle
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 12:36 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Cc: richard.combs at Polycom.com
Subject: Re: Need help building a para Warning tag



I tried Richard Comb's method for putting graphics for warning symbols
on a reference page and creating 2-column tables.  Everything worked
great for printed output but the graphics don't show up in my HTML Help
output.  I found that graphics not bounded by an anchored frame (on a
body page, I suppose) will not appear in the HTML output.  Is there any
way around this?

Thanks!
Ed Lightle
Sr. Technical Writer
Command Alkon Inc.
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Fonts they are a-changing

2007-02-21 Thread Rene Stephenson
Thanks, Guy. Yeah - me, too. Maybe it's because they only sent out the 
"preliminary" branding stuff, with the final due out in April. I did ask my 
upline (who told me to send him the purchase info whenever I find it), jumped 
to another branch and went up that line, too, but no answers so far.  We run 
into issues like this a lot, but I think it's just because we're a tiny little 
division of a huge international conglomerate that actually prohibits org 
charts.  (Laugh..but I'm not kidding.) Stuff kind of just trickles down and 
filters through.

  Often, however, they'll make very broad statements without a lot of specifics 
because their goal is to create a degree of uniformity without boxing in the 
different divisions and functions in ways that would inhibit their routine 
tasks. That might explain identifying a font family as a standard but going no 
further.

  Maybe I should just put this on the back burner for a few weeks, and when 
they start asking why things haven't changed yet, I'll finally be able to 
identify who has the answers. Or... maybe I should just let Windows Search do 
the walking through some of the huge network drives and see if I can sniff out 
some font files somewhere!  >:-}

  Rene

"Guy K. Haas"  wrote:
  Rene--

I'm surprised that The Powers That Be did not suggest/recommend/specify 
a source for the fonts they are mandating. Is there someone up-line you 
can ask?

--Guy K. Haas
Software Exegete in Silicon Valley

Rene Stephenson wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> We've received new corporate branding from the "parent company" that ripples 
> into needing to update our FM templates with a new set of fonts. The branding 
> specifies Helvetica / Helvetica Neue for copy and Rotis Sans Serif for 
> headings. (I hear some groaning at the already-overused Helvetica...but the 
> edict was issued by the Powers That Be.) I'm seeing several websites from 
> which we could buy the fonts, but there are multiple options for purchase 
> that frankly require a deeper understanding of how fonts are handled than I 
> possess. Having never worked in typesetting, I feel like I'm doing a 
> freestyle stroke across the bay and hoping I don't sink. 





Daylight savings 3 weeks earlier in US

2007-02-21 Thread Gillian Flato
Don't know if you guys have seen this but Daylight Savings is now 3
weeks earlier in the US. You will have to manually reset your computers.



Read the story here.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2007/02/21/MNGASO8BQ
11.DTL

Here's microsoft's info on how to update networks.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/timezone/dst2007.mspx?wt_svl=20277a_
id=20277b


Thank you,



 

Gillian Flato

Technical Writer (Software)

nanometrics

1550 Buckeye Dr. 

Milpitas, CA. 95035

(408.435.9600 x 316

7  408.232.5911

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problems with master pages in 7.2

2007-02-21 Thread Elisa Sawyer
I'm trying to completely remove room for sideheads from a set of Frame
7.2 files. In the O'Keefe and Loring "Complete Reference," it mentions
that there should be a pop-up that asks me whether I want to remove
the master page overrides. It's not happening, and the room for
sideheads is still there even though Frame tells me there are no
overrides. any ideas?

-- 
Elisa R. Sawyer
~^~
Senior Technical Writer
"All true things must change, and only that which changes remains
true." -- Carl Jung



problems with master pages in 7.2

2007-02-21 Thread Rene Stephenson
Clarifying... You have no sideheads in any text flows on any master pages, but 
when you reapply master pages, you don't get prompted to remove overrides, and 
yet the sideheads persist...?

  If I'm correctly understanding your case, I'd try opening the template that 
has no sideheads and do File > Import page layouts with both remove options 
selected. If that doesn't fix it, I'd start prowling through the paragraph 
designer to make sure that none of the paragraph formats use the pagination 
setting for Side Head-Alignment.

  Try those, if you haven't already...
  HTH
  Rene Stephenson

Elisa Sawyer  wrote:
  I'm trying to completely remove room for sideheads from a set of Frame
7.2 files. In the O'Keefe and Loring "Complete Reference," it mentions
that there should be a pop-up that asks me whether I want to remove
the master page overrides. It's not happening, and the room for
sideheads is still there even though Frame tells me there are no
overrides. any ideas?

-- 
Elisa R. Sawyer
~^~
Senior Technical Writer
"All true things must change, and only that which changes remains
true." -- Carl Jung
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Daylight savings 3 weeks earlier in US

2007-02-21 Thread Dov Isaacs
Unless you are running Windows 2000 (or earlier) OR
you don't apply the Windows XP updates from Microsoft
in a timely fashion, you don't need to do anything.
The fix is already applied to your system in Windows XP
and the change was built into Windows Vista.

- Dov 

> -Original Message-
> From: Gillian Flato
> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 3:27 PM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Daylight savings 3 weeks earlier in US
> 
> Don't know if you guys have seen this but Daylight Savings is now 3
> weeks earlier in the US. You will have to manually reset your 
> computers.
> 
>  
>  
> Read the story here.
>  
> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2007/02/21
> /MNGASO8BQ
> 11.DTL
>  
> Here's microsoft's info on how to update networks.
>  
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/timezone/dst2007.mspx?wt_svl=
> 20277a_
> id=20277b
>  
> 
> Thank you,
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Gillian Flato
> 



problems with master pages in 7.2

2007-02-21 Thread Elisa Sawyer
Thanks!

I had been looking at the "offending" paragraphs, the ones that were
actually indented, and after reading your response, I realized that
the Headers perhaps needed to be re-set to "in column."

Yay

On 2/21/07, Rene Stephenson  wrote:
> Clarifying... You have no sideheads in any text flows on any master pages,
> but when you reapply master pages, you don't get prompted to remove
> overrides, and yet the sideheads persist...?
>
> If I'm correctly understanding your case, I'd try opening the template that
> has no sideheads and do File > Import page layouts with both remove options
> selected. If that doesn't fix it, I'd start prowling through the paragraph
> designer to make sure that none of the paragraph formats use the pagination
> setting for Side Head-Alignment.
>
> Try those, if you haven't already...
> HTH
> Rene Stephenson
>
>
> Elisa Sawyer  wrote:
> I'm trying to completely remove room for sideheads from a set of Frame
> 7.2 files. In the O'Keefe and Loring "Complete Reference," it mentions
> that there should be a pop-up that asks me whether I want to remove
> the master page overrides. It's not happening, and the room for
> sideheads is still there even though Frame tells me there are no
> overrides. any ideas?
>
> --
> Elisa R. Sawyer
> ~^~
> Senior Technical Writer
> "All true things must change, and only that which changes remains
> true." -- Carl Jung
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Fonts they are a-changing

2007-02-21 Thread Guy K. Haas
Rene--

I'm surprised that The Powers That Be did not suggest/recommend/specify 
a source for the fonts they are mandating.  Is there someone up-line you 
can ask?

--Guy K. Haas
   Software Exegete in Silicon Valley

Rene Stephenson wrote:
> Hi All,
>
>   We've received new corporate branding from the "parent company" that 
> ripples into needing to update our FM templates with a new set of fonts. The 
> branding specifies Helvetica / Helvetica Neue for copy and Rotis Sans Serif 
> for headings. (I hear some groaning at the already-overused Helvetica...but 
> the edict was issued by the Powers That Be.) I'm seeing several websites from 
> which we could buy the fonts, but there are multiple options for purchase 
> that frankly require a deeper understanding of how fonts are handled than I 
> possess.  Having never worked in typesetting, I feel like I'm doing a 
> freestyle stroke across the bay and hoping I don't sink. 




Frame Cross-Ref source jumps to top of page in PDF created using Actrobat

2007-02-21 Thread Tarlochan S. Nahal
  Hi Framers!

  This is my first message to a Frame users group after a long absence.

  Maybe you have dealt with this problem before. I am using FM 7.2.

  I created a pdf file using the Adobe Acrobat 8 Professional.

  When I click on the figure cross-reference, it takes me to the source of the 
cross reference (Figure title) which hangs on the top of the page, showing only 
the figure title. The figure stays hidden. I need to scroll up to see the 
figure. In my Frame document, the figure title is never on top of the page; it 
is always below the frame.

  Can someone share with me what might be causing this problem and how to avoid 
this?

  Thanks,

Tarlochan S. Nahal




FML Announces PatternStream Software Version 2.3 Release

2007-02-21 Thread Marjorie Mayo



FML Announces PatternStream(R) Software Version 2.3 Release

GOOCHLAND, VA -- (MARKET WIRE) -- 02/06/2007 -- Finite Matters Ltd.
(FML) today announced that PatternStream version 2.3
  is available. 

This upgrade includes a full range of dynamic graph capabilities and
improved XML importation, processing, and generation capabilities. Other
functional enhancements simplify automated publishing setup and control.
A newly revised and comprehensive PatternStream user manual and new
on-line help are included with the upgrade. 

In addition, PatternStream 2.3 will include FML's new DataProber(tm)
software release 1.0
 . DataProber
allows users to connect to any ODBC data sources and OLAP for Microsoft
SQL Server Analysis Services and view data structures, query data, and
view and copy result sets. 

These enhancements are the product of customer input and requests and
FML's vision for PatternStream. 

"We really listen to our users and are constantly working to keep
PatternStream the leading software solution for automated database
publishing," said Ben Slone, FML's President and CEO. "Continual
implementation of user suggestions helps FML meet and surpass our
customers' publishing expectations and needs." 

PatternStream integrates with Adobe(r) FrameMaker(r) and FrameMaker
Server 
to enable users to publish to print and electronic files. PatternStream
can be used on computers ranging from laptops to intranet servers to
provide any level of data-driven publishing required by small to
enterprise entities. Output file formats include PDF, Adobe
PostScript(r), HTML, and XML. 

About FML 

FML offers quality, cost-effective database and automated publishing and
information management solutions for the private sector, government, and
organizations. FML has extensive experience and expertise in
implementing a wide variety of complex database and automated publishing
systems. 

Customers include Amcor Sunclipse, Columbia Books, eMap, F+W
Publications, Health Net, Inc., Honeywell, Hutton Communications, IMI
Cornelius, MediQual, MFS, Mayo Foundation, McGraw-Hill, New Zealand
Exchange, Nicor Gas, RAAF AIS, Square D Company, Standard & Poor's, and
the University of San Francisco. 

FML is the leader in state and local government budget database
publishing and is used to publish city, county, school district, and
state budgets and other financial information by governments in fifteen
states and Canada. 

PatternStream is also used to publish budget, financial, and statistical
information for federal government departments and agencies including
the Department of Defense and the intelligence community. 

FML has working relationships with Adobe Systems, Inc., CACI, CGI, IBM,
and Oracle to resell and support PatternStream implementations and
enhancements. 

PatternStream will continue to revolutionize automated publishing. For
more information, contact Marjorie Mayo at 888-230-1365 and visit
www.patternstream.com. 












Fonts they are a-changing

2007-02-21 Thread Dov Isaacs
I would strongly concur with Guy's advice.

There are dozens upon dozens of fonts available with
the names Helvetica and Helvetica-Neue from different
sources (including Adobe and Linotype) as well as 
fonts with those names bundled with the MacOS.

HOWEVER, despite the same names, there differences
between them, whether in the character sets, mappings,
embedding privileges, font metrics, etc.

Unless you standardize on a particular version of
any font and enforce use of that version, you are
being setup for disasters including missing text,
wrong text, relayout, etc., especially when everything
is supposed to come together for PDF file production,
printing, or both.

- Dov 

> -Original Message-
> From: Guy K. Haas
> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 12:54 PM
> To: Rene Stephenson
> Cc: framers at frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: Fonts they are a-changing
> 
> Rene--
> 
> I'm surprised that The Powers That Be did not 
> suggest/recommend/specify a source for the fonts they are 
> mandating.  Is there someone up-line you can ask?
> 
> --Guy K. Haas
>Software Exegete in Silicon Valley
> 
> Rene Stephenson wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> >   We've received new corporate branding from the "parent 
> company" that 
> > ripples into needing to update our FM templates with a new set of 
> > fonts. The branding specifies Helvetica / Helvetica Neue 
> for copy and 
> > Rotis Sans Serif for headings. (I hear some groaning at the 
> > already-overused Helvetica...but the edict was issued by the Powers 
> > That Be.) I'm seeing several websites from which we could buy the 
> > fonts, but there are multiple options for purchase that frankly 
> > require a deeper understanding of how fonts are handled than I 
> > possess.  Having never worked in typesetting, I feel like I'm 
> > doing a freestyle stroke across the bay and hoping I don't sink. 



Daylight savings 3 weeks earlier in US

2007-02-21 Thread Charles Beck
I've heard about this and can't help but wonder why MS can't develop and
issue a patch that would fix the calendar/date functionality in Windows.
Anyone care to offer a non-cynical speculation? (I'm cynical enough to
handle that requirement by myself...)

Chuck Beck 
Sr. Technical Writer | Infor | Office: 614.523.7302 |
Charles.Beck at infor.com 



-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+charles.beck=infor@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+charles.beck=infor.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Gillian Flato
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 6:27 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Daylight savings 3 weeks earlier in US

Don't know if you guys have seen this but Daylight Savings is now 3
weeks earlier in the US. You will have to manually reset your computers.



Read the story here.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2007/02/21/MNGASO8BQ
11.DTL

Here's microsoft's info on how to update networks.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/timezone/dst2007.mspx?wt_svl=20277a_
id=20277b


Thank you,



 

Gillian Flato

Technical Writer (Software)

nanometrics

1550 Buckeye Dr. 

Milpitas, CA. 95035

(408.435.9600 x 316

7  408.232.5911

* gflato at nanometrics  .com
 


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Daylight savings 3 weeks earlier in US

2007-02-21 Thread Charles Beck
Apologies! (I should have read all my email before responding.) 

Cynical query withdrawn with respect and apologies to all.

Chuck
Sr. Technical Writer | Infor | Office: 614.523.7302 |
Charles.Beck at infor.com 



-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+charles.beck=infor@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+charles.beck=infor.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Dov Isaacs
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 7:01 PM
To: Gillian Flato; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Daylight savings 3 weeks earlier in US

Unless you are running Windows 2000 (or earlier) OR you don't apply the
Windows XP updates from Microsoft in a timely fashion, you don't need to
do anything.
The fix is already applied to your system in Windows XP and the change
was built into Windows Vista.

- Dov 

> -Original Message-
> From: Gillian Flato
> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 3:27 PM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Daylight savings 3 weeks earlier in US
> 
> Don't know if you guys have seen this but Daylight Savings is now 3 
> weeks earlier in the US. You will have to manually reset your 
> computers.
> 
>  
>  
> Read the story here.
>  
> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2007/02/21
> /MNGASO8BQ
> 11.DTL
>  
> Here's microsoft's info on how to update networks.
>  
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/timezone/dst2007.mspx?wt_svl=
> 20277a_
> id=20277b
>  
> 
> Thank you,
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> Gillian Flato
> 
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Daylight savings 3 weeks earlier in US

2007-02-21 Thread Bill Briggs
At 3:27 PM -0800 2/21/07, Gillian Flato wrote:
>Don't know if you guys have seen this but Daylight Savings is now 3
>weeks earlier in the US. You will have to manually reset your computers.

 Not if you use a Mac. There was an OS update that fixed this. It's all going 
to happen automatically, as in the past.

- web