Re: TOC problem
Surbhi, I've never done this specific task, but try the following: 1. Add a blank paragraph to another file. Give the format a unique name and don't use it anywhere else in the book. 2. When you generate the TOC for the first time, include this format. 3. In the TOC's Reference page, define the paragraph's format with a page break, and add the string, "this page has been intentionally left blank". You may have to play around with the properties to get the line to appear as you wish. 4. Update the book again. HTH, David On 5/24/07, Surbhi Singhal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello Framers I need to keep the number of pages in my TOC Even. If the generated TOC has the content for 3 pages, i have to manually format the last blank page for the message : "this page has been intentionally left blank". Is it possible to define if TOC could take up this paragraph format automatically? Thanx for your help. Regards Surbhi ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dsch.tw%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- David Schor Senior Technical Writer RADLAN, a Marvell Company Tel: (+972) 3 7662823 Cellular: (+972) 54 4788253 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.marvell.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
TOC problem
Hello Framers I need to keep the number of pages in my TOC Even. If the generated TOC has the content for 3 pages, i have to manually format the last blank page for the message : "this page has been intentionally left blank". Is it possible to define if TOC could take up this paragraph format automatically? Thanx for your help. Regards Surbhi ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Linking from an HTML page to a destination in a PDF file
I have a request to establish links from an HTML document on my company's web site to a specific topic within a PDF file produced via FrameMaker. Has anyone done this before? The HTML page summarizes changes in a recent release and references about 100 individual features. Each feature has a number and those numbers appear in the PDF file, but each number appears at least three times and, in some cases, more often. In only one place is the actual text they are wanting to link to. Plus, the (PDF) release document is still changing. I can think of ways to do this by pulling the HTML document into FrameMaker and setting up the links there, then creating HTML (or PDF) output, but I can't think of a good way to do exactly what I'm asked to do other than linking to specific page numbers, which would be time-consuming to set up and difficult to maintain. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Michael Norton NO RELIANCE: This e-mail will be of no force of effect and will not be binding unless a hard copy of this e-mail, signed by an authorized official of the company, has been sent to the recipient of this message. CONFIDENTIAL AND/OR PROPRIETARY: Information contained in this transmission is intended for the use of the individual or entity named above and may contain legally proprietary or confidential information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please permanently delete this message and immediately notify us by telephone at 972-377-1110.
Structured FM: Conversion Table Question
At 12:11 -0500 23/5/07, Lin Surasky wrote: >For now, the question is, what's wrong with my conversion table that I >can't get the Description element to be wrapped properly around the >paragraphs and lists that follow a CR Title? If I specify E:Para as the >object(s) to be wrapped in the Description element, the intro paragraph >that follows the Section Title (STitle) is wrapped too. Which it >shouldn't be. Only paragraphs (and lists) that fall under the CR Title >(Title[CR], as opposed to Title[SubSection] or STitle) should be wrapped >in the Description element. Lin... I don't have time to debug your conversion table right now, but here's a tip that might be useful to you: you can simulate single-stepping of the process by conditionalizing the rows of your conversion table and selectively enabling them. This is often a help to see where things go wrong, especially in the case of tables that use qualifiers. -- Steve
Creating a Checkbox (Forms) in Frame 7.2
Assuming you're running Windows: Start > Programs > Accessories > System Tools > Character Map. Find the empty and activated checkboxes you want to use by browsing among your fonts. Use the Character Map to Select, and then copy-and-paste the characters into FM. If, when you paste them in, they are converted to regular characters: In FM, create a new Character Tag with all settings AsIs except font -- which you set to whatever font you picked as the source for your checkboxes (Zapf Dingbat or Wingdings, for example). Highlight the characters and apply the new Character Tag. Art On 5/23/07, Angela Akridge wrote: > I'd like to create a check box in Frame 7.2, and then insert a check mark > inside the check box to indicate that something applies or doesn't apply. > Any idea how I can do this in Frame? > > Thank you, > > Angela > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358
Webworks Std - Html output naming
The marker type does not have to named "Filename". You can name it anything you want as long as you define it also in WW. Once again, I'm not sure where in the application. I'm not at work today, but I think Style Designer is in the Options menu or similar. David -- David Schor Senior Technical Writer RADLAN, a Marvell Company Tel: (+972) 3 7662823 Cellular: (+972) 54 4788253 E-mail: dschor at marvell.com Web: www.marvell.com On 5/23/07, Elisabeth SABOT wrote: > > David, Chuck, and all > > Thanks a mil for the tips. It works great! > However, I went through the online help (Getting Started, User Guide and > Template Reference are the only parts provided) and I browsed the program > files on my system but couldn't find any mention of a Style Designer nor > Filename marker anywhere so far... > Is the Style Designer a panel in the application itself? (with this bl**dy > localised application which is btw badly translated, I can't find my way) > On the other hand, the online help doesn't fully match my actual WWStd > application (v8.0), there are some discrepancies between online help and the > actual application. (not talking about the fact that the online help is only > half-way translated... Leading to my second question about how to get back to > the English version of WWStd when running on a French OS). > > Many thanks again for your prompt replies and to all for this great list. > Elisa > > -Message d'origine- > De : David Schor [mailto:dsch.tw at gmail.com] > Envoy? : Wednesday, May 23, 2007 8:41 AM > ? : Elisabeth SABOT; framers at lists.frameusers.com > Objet : Re: Webworks Std - Html output naming > > Somewhere in WW, you probably have to define the reference to the "Filename" > marker (we use a different marker name where I work). Check in the Style > Designer. > > -- > David Schor > Senior Technical Writer > RADLAN, a Marvell Company > Tel: (+972) 3 7662823 > Cellular: (+972) 54 4788253 > E-mail: dschor at marvell.com > Web: www.marvell.com > > > On 5/22/07, Charles Beck wrote: > > Hi Elisa, > > > > I think I can help with the first question. It's been awhile since I did > > this, but I *think* I remember how to do it. > > > > What you need to do first is create a new marker type in Framemaker > > called "Filename". (This is the part I'm not 100% sure about, but the > > WebWorks documentation, I believe, has this procedure somewhere.) > > > > Then, for each heading that will constitute the beginning of a new file > > in HTML, add one of these markers. For the marker text, use what you > > want WebWorks to assign as the name of the file, minus the ".htm". For > > instance, in the example you gave, you would place a marker in the > > "Installing Foo" heading and enter "foo" as the marker text. Add another > > marker in the "Configuring Bar" heading and enter "bar" as the marker > > text. > > > > When you generate the output with WebWorks, like magic, WebWorks knows > > to assign these as the file names for the output files. > > > > Like I say, it's been awhile, but I am pretty sure this is right (though > > I feel compelled to add the caveat that I have always used WW Pro, not > > Standard... Not sure if the Standard version does it any differently). > > > > HTH, > > Chuck > > > > This message and any attachments (the "message") is intended solely for the > addressees and is confidential. If you receive this message in error, please > delete it and immediately notify the sender. Any use not in accord with its > purpose, any dissemination or disclosure, either whole or partial, is > prohibited except formal approval. The internet can not guarantee the > integrity of this message. Talend shall not therefore be liable for the > message if modified. > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as dsch.tw at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dsch.tw%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
Creating a Checkbox (Forms) in Frame 7.2
Angela Akridge wrote: > I'd like to create a check box in Frame 7.2, and then insert a check mark > inside the check box to indicate that something applies or doesn't apply. > Any idea how I can do this in Frame? > The Wingdings 2 TT font has characters for a checked and unchecked box. You could set up a run-in pgf tag for each situation with an autonumber for the symbol. -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com I'll stop saying Microsoft is arrogant when Windows stops saying "Welcome" and instead asks "May I?"
Webworks Std - Html output naming
Thanks for the info, Richard. WWStd does actually include Filename marker support... Thank God. But you're right, WWP Standard is rather limited...putting it mildly... It seems that you all use WWP Pro? Or the native Frame XML output maybe? (I'm not very familiar with XML and stuff so I didn't go much further than creating a structured document in FrameMaker based on one of the templates provided.) Thanks all for your help. Elisa -Message d'origine- De : Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.combs at Polycom.com] Envoy? : Wednesday, May 23, 2007 4:44 PM ? : Elisabeth SABOT; framers at lists.frameusers.com Objet : RE: Webworks Std - Html output naming Elisabeth SABOT wrote: > Thanks a mil for the tips. It works great! > However, I went through the online help (Getting Started, User Guide > and Template Reference are the only parts > provided) and I browsed the program files on my system but couldn't > find any mention of a Style Designer nor Filename marker anywhere so > far... > Is the Style Designer a panel in the application itself? IIRC (it's been a while since I've used WWP), Style Designer is only available in the Professional version of WWP, not the Standard version that's free with FM. (If it were there, you'd simply go to the Style menu and select Designer, or click the corresponding toolbar button.) The free Standard version of WWP is rather limited. You can generate output using one of the included templates, but you can't do much to modify those templates. Style Designer is the tool for modifying templates (defining new styles, adding macros, etc.). So the question is whether the pre-built templates in the Standard edition include support for the Filename marker, because I don't think you can add it if they don't. Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- This message and any attachments (the "message") is intended solely for the addressees and is confidential. If you receive this message in error, please delete it and immediately notify the sender. Any use not in accord with its purpose, any dissemination or disclosure, either whole or partial, is prohibited except formal approval. The internet can not guarantee the integrity of this message. Talend shall not therefore be liable for the message if modified.
[SPAM] - Re: Webworks Std - Html output naming - Found word(s) list error in the Text body
Hi David, It worked fine, thanks. I've used a Filename element which auto-mapped with the Filename WW style. And the output looks fine so far (I've only generated part of the files). I think the WWStd edition is pretty restricted as no alteration to the WW styles seems to be authorized... However I need to look at it more thoroughly, maybe am overlooking something. Many thanks again for your help. Do you all (of most of yous) use WWPro? Elisa -Message d'origine- De : David Schor [mailto:dsch.tw at gmail.com] Envoy? : Wednesday, May 23, 2007 4:23 PM ? : Elisabeth SABOT Cc : framers at lists.frameusers.com Objet : [SPAM] - Re: Webworks Std - Html output naming - Found word(s) list error in the Text body The marker type does not have to named "Filename". You can name it anything you want as long as you define it also in WW. Once again, I'm not sure where in the application. I'm not at work today, but I think Style Designer is in the Options menu or similar. David -- David Schor Senior Technical Writer RADLAN, a Marvell Company Tel: (+972) 3 7662823 Cellular: (+972) 54 4788253 E-mail: dschor at marvell.com Web: www.marvell.com On 5/23/07, Elisabeth SABOT wrote: > > David, Chuck, and all > > Thanks a mil for the tips. It works great! > However, I went through the online help (Getting Started, User Guide and > Template Reference are the only parts provided) and I browsed the program > files on my system but couldn't find any mention of a Style Designer nor > Filename marker anywhere so far... > Is the Style Designer a panel in the application itself? (with this > bl**dy localised application which is btw badly translated, I can't find my > way) On the other hand, the online help doesn't fully match my actual WWStd > application (v8.0), there are some discrepancies between online help and the > actual application. (not talking about the fact that the online help is only > half-way translated... Leading to my second question about how to get back to > the English version of WWStd when running on a French OS). > > Many thanks again for your prompt replies and to all for this great list. > Elisa > > -Message d'origine- > De : David Schor [mailto:dsch.tw at gmail.com] Envoy? : Wednesday, May > 23, 2007 8:41 AM ? : Elisabeth SABOT; framers at lists.frameusers.com > Objet : Re: Webworks Std - Html output naming > > Somewhere in WW, you probably have to define the reference to the "Filename" > marker (we use a different marker name where I work). Check in the Style > Designer. > > -- > David Schor > Senior Technical Writer > RADLAN, a Marvell Company > Tel: (+972) 3 7662823 > Cellular: (+972) 54 4788253 > E-mail: dschor at marvell.com > Web: www.marvell.com > > > On 5/22/07, Charles Beck wrote: > > Hi Elisa, > > > > I think I can help with the first question. It's been awhile since I > > did this, but I *think* I remember how to do it. > > > > What you need to do first is create a new marker type in Framemaker > > called "Filename". (This is the part I'm not 100% sure about, but > > the WebWorks documentation, I believe, has this procedure > > somewhere.) > > > > Then, for each heading that will constitute the beginning of a new > > file in HTML, add one of these markers. For the marker text, use > > what you want WebWorks to assign as the name of the file, minus the > > ".htm". For instance, in the example you gave, you would place a > > marker in the "Installing Foo" heading and enter "foo" as the marker > > text. Add another marker in the "Configuring Bar" heading and enter > > "bar" as the marker text. > > > > When you generate the output with WebWorks, like magic, WebWorks > > knows to assign these as the file names for the output files. > > > > Like I say, it's been awhile, but I am pretty sure this is right > > (though I feel compelled to add the caveat that I have always used > > WW Pro, not Standard... Not sure if the Standard version does it any > > differently). > > > > HTH, > > Chuck > > > > This message and any attachments (the "message") is intended solely for the > addressees and is confidential. If you receive this message in error, please > delete it and immediately notify the sender. Any use not in accord with its > purpose, any dissemination or disclosure, either whole or partial, is > prohibited except formal approval. The internet can not guarantee the > integrity of this message. Talend shall not therefore be liable for the > message if modified. > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as dsch.tw at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dsch.tw%40gmail.co > m > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
Structured FM: Conversion Table Question
Unless I am misreading the table (entirely possible, given the reformatting that this list forces), it appears that you do not have anything that is being mapped to the Para[CR] or List[CR] elements. And you say that the structure of a CR should be a Title, followed by a description. So that's how it should be described in the conversion table. Do you have different tags for the paragraphs of a introduction, CR description? This would allow you to specify these in the conversion table separately (e.g. P:Intro maps to Para[Intro] and P:Body maps to Para[CR]) and then you can include the specific qualified para elements in different contexts as appropriate: P:Intro Para Intro P:Body Para CR Para[CR]+, List[CR]?Description Title[CR], Description CR[Type="Known Issue"] CR Title[SubSection], (Para[Intro]* | List* | CR*)* SubSection .. As an aside, you can simplify the conversion table by omitting the E: identifiers as Frame assumes items in the conversion table are elements unless explicitly qualified otherwise. I also reorganize the conversion table to begin with the simplest elements (e.g., character formats or paragraph formats that become unique elements) and then the next level of wrapping, then the next, On Wednesday, May 23, 2007 01:11 PM, Lin Surasky wrote: | Hi all- | | I've decided to dive into Structured FM and see if I can make | these Release Notes easier to manage. Since we don't yet have | a need for markup, I'm starting with just the EDD so at least | we'll have some of the benefits of a structured environment | in place before we get other departments involved (if that | ever happens). | | I have a basic EDD written, and am working on the conversion | table so I can move the little content that I already have | into the structured environment for the next release. | | Here's a basic rundown of the document structure: | | The Release Notes book contains a cover/copyright info file, | TOC, and 4-5 chapters. (I'm not even going to worry about the | non-chapter files at this point...) | | Each chapter is a numbered Section. | | Each Section consists of a section number (SNumber), title | (STitle), an introductory paragraph (Para), and one or more | SubSections. | | Each SubSection consists of a Title, a bulleted list of CRs, | and the CR descriptions. | | Each ListItem is a cross-reference to the CR, which is in the | same SubSection. | | Each CR consists of a Title and a Description. | | The Description for the CR is defined as one or more | paragraphs (Para+) and zero or more lists (List?). | | Most of this works fine, although I haven't tested the | cross-references yet. That'll be another email | | For now, the question is, what's wrong with my conversion | table that I can't get the Description element to be wrapped | properly around the paragraphs and lists that follow a CR Title? | | If I specify E:Para as the object(s) to be wrapped in the | Description element, the intro paragraph that follows the | Section Title (STitle) is wrapped too. Which it shouldn't be. | Only paragraphs (and lists) that fall under the CR Title | (Title[CR], as opposed to Title[SubSection] or STitle) should | be wrapped in the Description element. | | Here's the relevant snippet from the conversion table (I hope | it's readable...): | | Wrap this object or objects In this element With this | qualifier | | RE:RootElementBook | | E:SNumber, E:STitle, E:Para, | E:List*, E:SubSection* Section | | P:0 SectionNumber SNumber | | P:0 ChapterTitle StitleSection | | E:Title[SubSection], | (E:Para* | E:List* | CR*)* SubSection | | P:B Body Text Para | | P:1 Heading 1 Title SubSection | | P:2 Heading 2 Title CR | | E:Title[CR], | (E:Para*, E:List?) CR[Type="Known Issue"] CR | | E:Para[CR]+, E:List[CR]? Description | | | I hope this is clear enough. My mind is reeling! (And I'm | sure the solution is much simpler than the question...) | | Thanks for any and all advice! | Lin - Lester --- Lester C. Smalley Email: lsmalley AT infocon DOT com Information Consultants, Inc. Phone: 302-239-2942 FAX: 302-239-1712 Yorklyn, DE 19736 Web: www.infocon.com ---
Structured FM: Conversion Table Question
Hi, Lester- > Do you have different tags for the paragraphs of a > introduction, CR description? This would allow you to > specify these in the conversion table separately (e.g. > P:Intro maps to Para[Intro] and P:Body maps to > Para[CR]) and then you can include the specific qualified > para elements in different contexts as appropriate: No, I don't; I was hoping to avoid adding another paragraph format and having to re-tag the paragraphs, although that's much less time-consuming than wrapping all the CR Descriptions by hand!
Linking from an HTML page to a destination in a PDF file
Re: Creating a Checkbox (Forms) in Frame 7.2
Assuming you're running Windows: Start > Programs > Accessories > System Tools > Character Map. Find the empty and activated checkboxes you want to use by browsing among your fonts. Use the Character Map to Select, and then copy-and-paste the characters into FM. If, when you paste them in, they are converted to regular characters: In FM, create a new Character Tag with all settings AsIs except font -- which you set to whatever font you picked as the source for your checkboxes (Zapf Dingbat or Wingdings, for example). Highlight the characters and apply the new Character Tag. Art On 5/23/07, Angela Akridge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'd like to create a check box in Frame 7.2, and then insert a check mark inside the check box to indicate that something applies or doesn't apply. Any idea how I can do this in Frame? Thank you, Angela ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Creating a Checkbox (Forms) in Frame 7.2
Angela Akridge wrote: I'd like to create a check box in Frame 7.2, and then insert a check mark inside the check box to indicate that something applies or doesn't apply. Any idea how I can do this in Frame? The Wingdings 2 TT font has characters for a checked and unchecked box. You could set up a run-in pgf tag for each situation with an autonumber for the symbol. -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com I'll stop saying Microsoft is arrogant when Windows stops saying "Welcome" and instead asks "May I?" ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Creating a Checkbox (Forms) in Frame 7.2
I'd like to create a check box in Frame 7.2, and then insert a check mark inside the check box to indicate that something applies or doesn't apply. Any idea how I can do this in Frame? Thank you, Angela ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Creating a Checkbox (Forms) in Frame 7.2
I'd like to create a check box in Frame 7.2, and then insert a check mark inside the check box to indicate that something applies or doesn't apply. Any idea how I can do this in Frame? Thank you, Angela
RE: Linking from an HTML page to a destination in a PDF file
>From Shlomo Perets:- It is possible to add a page action to the opening page of a PDF, and set that action to be a web link. In Acrobat 6 or higher, display the Pages panel (previously called Thumbnails), right click the first page, and then click the Actions tab; add a "Page Open: Open a web link" action. Notice that when such a PDF is displayed in recent versions of Acrobat/Reader, a security message will be shown, indicating that the PDF is trying to open a web site (the action can be blocked or allowed; the web site can be "learned" as a valid one). If the pdf file is accessed through a web site, another option altogether is to set up an HTML file whose purpose is to redirect the browser to a different address, and name it as file with a .pdf extension. For example, the http://www.microtype.com/Training.pdf file is a text file with the following content: http://www.microtype.com/training.html";> In this case, redirection is transparent; Acrobat/Reader is not even opened, when the "pdf" file link is clicked in a browser. However, if such a file is opened locally (eg by double-clicking it in Windows Explorer), Acrobat/Reader will try to open the file as PDF file and an error message will be displayed, indicating that this is not a valid PDF file. Tammy L. Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Fiserv Insurance Solutions Property and Casualty Division 303-729-7733 [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Keep smiling, at least until you get your own way. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Norton, Mike Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 1:03 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Linking from an HTML page to a destination in a PDF file I have a request to establish links from an HTML document on my company's web site to a specific topic within a PDF file produced via FrameMaker. Has anyone done this before? The HTML page summarizes changes in a recent release and references about 100 individual features. Each feature has a number and those numbers appear in the PDF file, but each number appears at least three times and, in some cases, more often. In only one place is the actual text they are wanting to link to. Plus, the (PDF) release document is still changing. I can think of ways to do this by pulling the HTML document into FrameMaker and setting up the links there, then creating HTML (or PDF) output, but I can't think of a good way to do exactly what I'm asked to do other than linking to specific page numbers, which would be time-consuming to set up and difficult to maintain. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Michael Norton NO RELIANCE: This e-mail will be of no force of effect and will not be binding unless a hard copy of this e-mail, signed by an authorized official of the company, has been sent to the recipient of this message. CONFIDENTIAL AND/OR PROPRIETARY: Information contained in this transmission is intended for the use of the individual or entity named above and may contain legally proprietary or confidential information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please permanently delete this message and immediately notify us by telephone at 972-377-1110. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Book Pagination Issue
Look at it this way. FrameMaker emulates the real world. In the example below ch1 finishes on an even page, and ch2 starts on the right ch1 1-2, 3-4, 5-6 ch2 7-8, 9-10, 1-12 If you decide to have no blank pages ch1 finishes in this example on the right and ch2 starts on the left ch1 1-2, 3-4, 5 ch2 6-7, 7-8, 9-10 What you can't have is a one sided piece of paper. That is, all sheets of paper have two sides. It is a physical impossibility to have a piece of paper with only one side and FrameMaker cannot be allowed to permit such a thing when setting up pagination rules. Alan Fabio Di Francesco wrote: > Hi All, > > > > I was simply wondering if it is possible to have the first page of every > chapter in a book begin on the right side, and yet not have FM insert an > empty page at the end of the previous chapter. I've tried several things > including setting the files in the book to start on "Next Available Page" > and to "Delete Empty Pages". This removes the empty page but assigns the > "1st Page Side" to left in the pagination properties of the subsequent > chapter. > > > > Thank you, > > Fabio Di Francesco > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as alan at alphabyte.co.nz. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/alan%40alphabyte.co.nz > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- Alan Litchfield MBus (Hons), MNZCS AlphaByte PO Box 1941, Auckland http://www.alphabyte.co.nz
[SPAM] - Re: Webworks Std - Html output naming - Found word(s)list error in the Text body
Hi Elisa, Sounds like there was already a Filename style defined in WW, which tends to confirm what I thought was the case. At least, I don't remember us ever having to create and map a new or special style. I just wish I could remember where I saw the whole process documented... Anyway, glad you got it to work. Chuck -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+charles.beck=infor.com at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+charles.beck=infor@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Elisabeth SABOT Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 10:44 AM To: David Schor Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: [SPAM] - Re: Webworks Std - Html output naming - Found word(s)list error in the Text body Hi David, It worked fine, thanks. I've used a Filename element which auto-mapped with the Filename WW style. And the output looks fine so far (I've only generated part of the files). I think the WWStd edition is pretty restricted as no alteration to the WW styles seems to be authorized... However I need to look at it more thoroughly, maybe am overlooking something. Many thanks again for your help. Do you all (of most of yous) use WWPro? Elisa -Message d'origine- De : David Schor [mailto:dsch.tw at gmail.com] Envoy? : Wednesday, May 23, 2007 4:23 PM ? : Elisabeth SABOT Cc : framers at lists.frameusers.com Objet : [SPAM] - Re: Webworks Std - Html output naming - Found word(s) list error in the Text body The marker type does not have to named "Filename". You can name it anything you want as long as you define it also in WW. Once again, I'm not sure where in the application. I'm not at work today, but I think Style Designer is in the Options menu or similar. David -- David Schor Senior Technical Writer RADLAN, a Marvell Company Tel: (+972) 3 7662823 Cellular: (+972) 54 4788253 E-mail: dschor at marvell.com Web: www.marvell.com On 5/23/07, Elisabeth SABOT wrote: > > David, Chuck, and all > > Thanks a mil for the tips. It works great! > However, I went through the online help (Getting Started, User Guide and > Template Reference are the only parts provided) and I browsed the program > files on my system but couldn't find any mention of a Style Designer nor > Filename marker anywhere so far... > Is the Style Designer a panel in the application itself? (with this > bl**dy localised application which is btw badly translated, I can't find my > way) On the other hand, the online help doesn't fully match my actual WWStd > application (v8.0), there are some discrepancies between online help and the > actual application. (not talking about the fact that the online help is only > half-way translated... Leading to my second question about how to get back to > the English version of WWStd when running on a French OS). > > Many thanks again for your prompt replies and to all for this great list. > Elisa > > -Message d'origine- > De : David Schor [mailto:dsch.tw at gmail.com] Envoy? : Wednesday, May > 23, 2007 8:41 AM ? : Elisabeth SABOT; framers at lists.frameusers.com > Objet : Re: Webworks Std - Html output naming > > Somewhere in WW, you probably have to define the reference to the "Filename" > marker (we use a different marker name where I work). Check in the Style > Designer. > > -- > David Schor > Senior Technical Writer > RADLAN, a Marvell Company > Tel: (+972) 3 7662823 > Cellular: (+972) 54 4788253 > E-mail: dschor at marvell.com > Web: www.marvell.com > > > On 5/22/07, Charles Beck wrote: > > Hi Elisa, > > > > I think I can help with the first question. It's been awhile since I > > did this, but I *think* I remember how to do it. > > > > What you need to do first is create a new marker type in Framemaker > > called "Filename". (This is the part I'm not 100% sure about, but > > the WebWorks documentation, I believe, has this procedure > > somewhere.) > > > > Then, for each heading that will constitute the beginning of a new > > file in HTML, add one of these markers. For the marker text, use > > what you want WebWorks to assign as the name of the file, minus the > > ".htm". For instance, in the example you gave, you would place a > > marker in the "Installing Foo" heading and enter "foo" as the marker > > text. Add another marker in the "Configuring Bar" heading and enter > > "bar" as the marker text. > > > > When you generate the output with WebWorks, like magic, WebWorks > > knows to assign these as the file names for the output files. > > > > Like I say, it's been awhile, but I am pretty sure this is right > > (though I feel compelled to add the caveat that I have always used > > WW Pro, not Standard... Not sure if the Standard version does it any > > differently). > > > > HTH, > > Chuck > > > > This message and any attachments (the "message") is intended solely for the > addressees and is confidential. If you receive this message in error, please > delete it and immediately notify the sender. Any use not in accord with its > purpose, any dis
Linking from an HTML page to a destination in a PDF file
I have a request to establish links from an HTML document on my company's web site to a specific topic within a PDF file produced via FrameMaker. Has anyone done this before? The HTML page summarizes changes in a recent release and references about 100 individual features. Each feature has a number and those numbers appear in the PDF file, but each number appears at least three times and, in some cases, more often. In only one place is the actual text they are wanting to link to. Plus, the (PDF) release document is still changing. I can think of ways to do this by pulling the HTML document into FrameMaker and setting up the links there, then creating HTML (or PDF) output, but I can't think of a good way to do exactly what I'm asked to do other than linking to specific page numbers, which would be time-consuming to set up and difficult to maintain. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Michael Norton NO RELIANCE: This e-mail will be of no force of effect and will not be binding unless a hard copy of this e-mail, signed by an authorized official of the company, has been sent to the recipient of this message. CONFIDENTIAL AND/OR PROPRIETARY: Information contained in this transmission is intended for the use of the individual or entity named above and may contain legally proprietary or confidential information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please permanently delete this message and immediately notify us by telephone at 972-377-1110.___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Structured FM: Conversion Table Question
Hi, Lester- > Do you have different tags for the paragraphs of a > introduction, CR description? This would allow you to > specify these in the conversion table separately (e.g. > P:Intro maps to Para[Intro] and P:Body maps to > Para[CR]) and then you can include the specific qualified > para elements in different contexts as appropriate: No, I don't; I was hoping to avoid adding another paragraph format and having to re-tag the paragraphs, although that's much less time-consuming than wrapping all the CR Descriptions by hand! >From the responses I've received so far (thanks, Marcus Carr, Mark O'Connor and Steve Rickaby too) it looks like this will be the way to go. Thanks very much for the help! More cries to come, I'm sure! :) Lin ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Structured FM: Conversion Table Question
Unless I am misreading the table (entirely possible, given the reformatting that this list forces), it appears that you do not have anything that is being mapped to the Para[CR] or List[CR] elements. And you say that the structure of a CR should be a Title, followed by a description. So that's how it should be described in the conversion table. Do you have different tags for the paragraphs of a introduction, CR description? This would allow you to specify these in the conversion table separately (e.g. P:Intro maps to Para[Intro] and P:Body maps to Para[CR]) and then you can include the specific qualified para elements in different contexts as appropriate: P:Intro Para Intro P:Body Para CR Para[CR]+, List[CR]?Description Title[CR], Description CR[Type="Known Issue"] CR Title[SubSection], (Para[Intro]* | List* | CR*)* SubSection .. As an aside, you can simplify the conversion table by omitting the E: identifiers as Frame assumes items in the conversion table are elements unless explicitly qualified otherwise. I also reorganize the conversion table to begin with the simplest elements (e.g., character formats or paragraph formats that become unique elements) and then the next level of wrapping, then the next, On Wednesday, May 23, 2007 01:11 PM, Lin Surasky wrote: | Hi all- | | I've decided to dive into Structured FM and see if I can make | these Release Notes easier to manage. Since we don't yet have | a need for markup, I'm starting with just the EDD so at least | we'll have some of the benefits of a structured environment | in place before we get other departments involved (if that | ever happens). | | I have a basic EDD written, and am working on the conversion | table so I can move the little content that I already have | into the structured environment for the next release. | | Here's a basic rundown of the document structure: | | The Release Notes book contains a cover/copyright info file, | TOC, and 4-5 chapters. (I'm not even going to worry about the | non-chapter files at this point...) | | Each chapter is a numbered Section. | | Each Section consists of a section number (SNumber), title | (STitle), an introductory paragraph (Para), and one or more | SubSections. | | Each SubSection consists of a Title, a bulleted list of CRs, | and the CR descriptions. | | Each ListItem is a cross-reference to the CR, which is in the | same SubSection. | | Each CR consists of a Title and a Description. | | The Description for the CR is defined as one or more | paragraphs (Para+) and zero or more lists (List?). | | Most of this works fine, although I haven't tested the | cross-references yet. That'll be another email | | For now, the question is, what's wrong with my conversion | table that I can't get the Description element to be wrapped | properly around the paragraphs and lists that follow a CR Title? | | If I specify E:Para as the object(s) to be wrapped in the | Description element, the intro paragraph that follows the | Section Title (STitle) is wrapped too. Which it shouldn't be. | Only paragraphs (and lists) that fall under the CR Title | (Title[CR], as opposed to Title[SubSection] or STitle) should | be wrapped in the Description element. | | Here's the relevant snippet from the conversion table (I hope | it's readable...): | | Wrap this object or objects In this element With this | qualifier | | RE:RootElementBook | | E:SNumber, E:STitle, E:Para, | E:List*, E:SubSection* Section | | P:0 SectionNumber SNumber | | P:0 ChapterTitle StitleSection | | E:Title[SubSection], | (E:Para* | E:List* | CR*)* SubSection | | P:B Body Text Para | | P:1 Heading 1 Title SubSection | | P:2 Heading 2 Title CR | | E:Title[CR], | (E:Para*, E:List?) CR[Type="Known Issue"] CR | | E:Para[CR]+, E:List[CR]? Description | | | I hope this is clear enough. My mind is reeling! (And I'm | sure the solution is much simpler than the question...) | | Thanks for any and all advice! | Lin - Lester --- Lester C. Smalley Email: lsmalley AT infocon DOT com Information Consultants, Inc. Phone: 302-239-2942 FAX: 302-239-1712 Yorklyn, DE 19736 Web: www.infocon.com --- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send admin
Structured FM: Conversion Table Question
Hi all- I've decided to dive into Structured FM and see if I can make these Release Notes easier to manage. Since we don't yet have a need for markup, I'm starting with just the EDD so at least we'll have some of the benefits of a structured environment in place before we get other departments involved (if that ever happens). I have a basic EDD written, and am working on the conversion table so I can move the little content that I already have into the structured environment for the next release. Here's a basic rundown of the document structure: The Release Notes book contains a cover/copyright info file, TOC, and 4-5 chapters. (I'm not even going to worry about the non-chapter files at this point...) Each chapter is a numbered Section. Each Section consists of a section number (SNumber), title (STitle), an introductory paragraph (Para), and one or more SubSections. Each SubSection consists of a Title, a bulleted list of CRs, and the CR descriptions. Each ListItem is a cross-reference to the CR, which is in the same SubSection. Each CR consists of a Title and a Description. The Description for the CR is defined as one or more paragraphs (Para+) and zero or more lists (List?). Most of this works fine, although I haven't tested the cross-references yet. That'll be another email For now, the question is, what's wrong with my conversion table that I can't get the Description element to be wrapped properly around the paragraphs and lists that follow a CR Title? If I specify E:Para as the object(s) to be wrapped in the Description element, the intro paragraph that follows the Section Title (STitle) is wrapped too. Which it shouldn't be. Only paragraphs (and lists) that fall under the CR Title (Title[CR], as opposed to Title[SubSection] or STitle) should be wrapped in the Description element. Here's the relevant snippet from the conversion table (I hope it's readable...): Wrap this object or objects In this element With this qualifier RE:RootElementBook E:SNumber, E:STitle, E:Para, E:List*, E:SubSection* Section P:0 SectionNumber SNumber P:0 ChapterTitleStitle Section E:Title[SubSection], (E:Para* | E:List* | CR*)* SubSection P:B Body Text Para P:1 Heading 1 TitleSubSection P:2 Heading 2 Title CR E:Title[CR], (E:Para*, E:List?) CR[Type = "Known Issue"] CR E:Para[CR]+, E:List[CR]? Description I hope this is clear enough. My mind is reeling! (And I'm sure the solution is much simpler than the question...) Thanks for any and all advice! Lin
Webworks Std - Html output naming
Elisabeth SABOT wrote: > It seems that you all use WWP Pro? Or the native Frame XML > output maybe? (I'm not very familiar with XML and stuff so I > didn't go much further than creating a structured document in > FrameMaker based on one of the templates provided.) I've used WWP Pro and Mif2Go (www.omsys.com). Quadralay (www.quadralay.com) has replaced WWP Pro with ePublisher Pro, but I haven't seen or used it. I'm sure others can tell you more about it. In the distant past, I briefly used FM's native HTML output capability and found that it really sucked. I've never used the XML output and doubt that it makes much sense for unstructured documents. IMHO, implementing XML and structure are expensive and time-consuming undertakings that can pay big dividends in certain circumstances, but you'd better be sure you've calculated the ROI correctly and aren't just chasing the latest buzzword. I'm sure others disagree. ;-) Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 --
RE: Webworks Std - Html output naming
Elisabeth SABOT wrote: > It seems that you all use WWP Pro? Or the native Frame XML > output maybe? (I'm not very familiar with XML and stuff so I > didn't go much further than creating a structured document in > FrameMaker based on one of the templates provided.) I've used WWP Pro and Mif2Go (www.omsys.com). Quadralay (www.quadralay.com) has replaced WWP Pro with ePublisher Pro, but I haven't seen or used it. I'm sure others can tell you more about it. In the distant past, I briefly used FM's native HTML output capability and found that it really sucked. I've never used the XML output and doubt that it makes much sense for unstructured documents. IMHO, implementing XML and structure are expensive and time-consuming undertakings that can pay big dividends in certain circumstances, but you'd better be sure you've calculated the ROI correctly and aren't just chasing the latest buzzword. I'm sure others disagree. ;-) Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Webworks Std - Html output naming
David, Chuck, and all Thanks a mil for the tips. It works great! However, I went through the online help (Getting Started, User Guide and Template Reference are the only parts provided) and I browsed the program files on my system but couldn't find any mention of a Style Designer nor Filename marker anywhere so far... Is the Style Designer a panel in the application itself? (with this bl**dy localised application which is btw badly translated, I can't find my way) On the other hand, the online help doesn't fully match my actual WWStd application (v8.0), there are some discrepancies between online help and the actual application. (not talking about the fact that the online help is only half-way translated... Leading to my second question about how to get back to the English version of WWStd when running on a French OS). Many thanks again for your prompt replies and to all for this great list. Elisa -Message d'origine- De : David Schor [mailto:dsch.tw at gmail.com] Envoy? : Wednesday, May 23, 2007 8:41 AM ? : Elisabeth SABOT; framers at lists.frameusers.com Objet : Re: Webworks Std - Html output naming Somewhere in WW, you probably have to define the reference to the "Filename" marker (we use a different marker name where I work). Check in the Style Designer. -- David Schor Senior Technical Writer RADLAN, a Marvell Company Tel: (+972) 3 7662823 Cellular: (+972) 54 4788253 E-mail: dschor at marvell.com Web: www.marvell.com On 5/22/07, Charles Beck wrote: > Hi Elisa, > > I think I can help with the first question. It's been awhile since I did > this, but I *think* I remember how to do it. > > What you need to do first is create a new marker type in Framemaker > called "Filename". (This is the part I'm not 100% sure about, but the > WebWorks documentation, I believe, has this procedure somewhere.) > > Then, for each heading that will constitute the beginning of a new file > in HTML, add one of these markers. For the marker text, use what you > want WebWorks to assign as the name of the file, minus the ".htm". For > instance, in the example you gave, you would place a marker in the > "Installing Foo" heading and enter "foo" as the marker text. Add another > marker in the "Configuring Bar" heading and enter "bar" as the marker > text. > > When you generate the output with WebWorks, like magic, WebWorks knows > to assign these as the file names for the output files. > > Like I say, it's been awhile, but I am pretty sure this is right (though > I feel compelled to add the caveat that I have always used WW Pro, not > Standard... Not sure if the Standard version does it any differently). > > HTH, > Chuck > This message and any attachments (the "message") is intended solely for the addressees and is confidential. If you receive this message in error, please delete it and immediately notify the sender. Any use not in accord with its purpose, any dissemination or disclosure, either whole or partial, is prohibited except formal approval. The internet can not guarantee the integrity of this message. Talend shall not therefore be liable for the message if modified.
Re: Structured FM: Conversion Table Question
At 12:11 -0500 23/5/07, Lin Surasky wrote: >For now, the question is, what's wrong with my conversion table that I >can't get the Description element to be wrapped properly around the >paragraphs and lists that follow a CR Title? If I specify E:Para as the >object(s) to be wrapped in the Description element, the intro paragraph >that follows the Section Title (STitle) is wrapped too. Which it >shouldn't be. Only paragraphs (and lists) that fall under the CR Title >(Title[CR], as opposed to Title[SubSection] or STitle) should be wrapped >in the Description element. Lin... I don't have time to debug your conversion table right now, but here's a tip that might be useful to you: you can simulate single-stepping of the process by conditionalizing the rows of your conversion table and selectively enabling them. This is often a help to see where things go wrong, especially in the case of tables that use qualifiers. -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: [SPAM] - Re: Webworks Std - Html output naming - Found word(s)list error in the Text body
Hi Elisa, Sounds like there was already a Filename style defined in WW, which tends to confirm what I thought was the case. At least, I don't remember us ever having to create and map a new or special style. I just wish I could remember where I saw the whole process documented... Anyway, glad you got it to work. Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Elisabeth SABOT Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 10:44 AM To: David Schor Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: [SPAM] - Re: Webworks Std - Html output naming - Found word(s)list error in the Text body Hi David, It worked fine, thanks. I've used a Filename element which auto-mapped with the Filename WW style. And the output looks fine so far (I've only generated part of the files). I think the WWStd edition is pretty restricted as no alteration to the WW styles seems to be authorized... However I need to look at it more thoroughly, maybe am overlooking something. Many thanks again for your help. Do you all (of most of yous) use WWPro? Elisa -Message d'origine- De : David Schor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : Wednesday, May 23, 2007 4:23 PM À : Elisabeth SABOT Cc : framers@lists.frameusers.com Objet : [SPAM] - Re: Webworks Std - Html output naming - Found word(s) list error in the Text body The marker type does not have to named "Filename". You can name it anything you want as long as you define it also in WW. Once again, I'm not sure where in the application. I'm not at work today, but I think Style Designer is in the Options menu or similar. David -- David Schor Senior Technical Writer RADLAN, a Marvell Company Tel: (+972) 3 7662823 Cellular: (+972) 54 4788253 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.marvell.com On 5/23/07, Elisabeth SABOT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > David, Chuck, and all > > Thanks a mil for the tips. It works great! > However, I went through the online help (Getting Started, User Guide and > Template Reference are the only parts provided) and I browsed the program > files on my system but couldn't find any mention of a Style Designer nor > Filename marker anywhere so far... > Is the Style Designer a panel in the application itself? (with this > bl**dy localised application which is btw badly translated, I can't find my > way) On the other hand, the online help doesn't fully match my actual WWStd > application (v8.0), there are some discrepancies between online help and the > actual application. (not talking about the fact that the online help is only > half-way translated... Leading to my second question about how to get back to > the English version of WWStd when running on a French OS). > > Many thanks again for your prompt replies and to all for this great list. > Elisa > > -Message d'origine- > De : David Schor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : Wednesday, May > 23, 2007 8:41 AM À : Elisabeth SABOT; framers@lists.frameusers.com > Objet : Re: Webworks Std - Html output naming > > Somewhere in WW, you probably have to define the reference to the "Filename" > marker (we use a different marker name where I work). Check in the Style > Designer. > > -- > David Schor > Senior Technical Writer > RADLAN, a Marvell Company > Tel: (+972) 3 7662823 > Cellular: (+972) 54 4788253 > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Web: www.marvell.com > > > On 5/22/07, Charles Beck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Elisa, > > > > I think I can help with the first question. It's been awhile since I > > did this, but I *think* I remember how to do it. > > > > What you need to do first is create a new marker type in Framemaker > > called "Filename". (This is the part I'm not 100% sure about, but > > the WebWorks documentation, I believe, has this procedure > > somewhere.) > > > > Then, for each heading that will constitute the beginning of a new > > file in HTML, add one of these markers. For the marker text, use > > what you want WebWorks to assign as the name of the file, minus the > > ".htm". For instance, in the example you gave, you would place a > > marker in the "Installing Foo" heading and enter "foo" as the marker > > text. Add another marker in the "Configuring Bar" heading and enter > > "bar" as the marker text. > > > > When you generate the output with WebWorks, like magic, WebWorks > > knows to assign these as the file names for the output files. > > > > Like I say, it's been awhile, but I am pretty sure this is right > > (though I feel compelled to add the caveat that I have always used > > WW Pro, not Standard... Not sure if the Standard version does it any > > differently). > > > > HTH, > > Chuck > > > > This message and any attachments (the "message") is intended solely for the > addressees and is confidential. If you receive this message in error, please > delete it and immediately notify the sender. Any use not in accord with its > purpose, any dissemination or disclosure, either whole or partial, is > prohibited except f
Structured FM: Conversion Table Question
Hi all- I've decided to dive into Structured FM and see if I can make these Release Notes easier to manage. Since we don't yet have a need for markup, I'm starting with just the EDD so at least we'll have some of the benefits of a structured environment in place before we get other departments involved (if that ever happens). I have a basic EDD written, and am working on the conversion table so I can move the little content that I already have into the structured environment for the next release. Here's a basic rundown of the document structure: The Release Notes book contains a cover/copyright info file, TOC, and 4-5 chapters. (I'm not even going to worry about the non-chapter files at this point...) Each chapter is a numbered Section. Each Section consists of a section number (SNumber), title (STitle), an introductory paragraph (Para), and one or more SubSections. Each SubSection consists of a Title, a bulleted list of CRs, and the CR descriptions. Each ListItem is a cross-reference to the CR, which is in the same SubSection. Each CR consists of a Title and a Description. The Description for the CR is defined as one or more paragraphs (Para+) and zero or more lists (List?). Most of this works fine, although I haven't tested the cross-references yet. That'll be another email For now, the question is, what's wrong with my conversion table that I can't get the Description element to be wrapped properly around the paragraphs and lists that follow a CR Title? If I specify E:Para as the object(s) to be wrapped in the Description element, the intro paragraph that follows the Section Title (STitle) is wrapped too. Which it shouldn't be. Only paragraphs (and lists) that fall under the CR Title (Title[CR], as opposed to Title[SubSection] or STitle) should be wrapped in the Description element. Here's the relevant snippet from the conversion table (I hope it's readable...): Wrap this object or objects In this element With this qualifier RE:RootElementBook E:SNumber, E:STitle, E:Para, E:List*, E:SubSection* Section P:0 SectionNumber SNumber P:0 ChapterTitleStitle Section E:Title[SubSection], (E:Para* | E:List* | CR*)* SubSection P:B Body Text Para P:1 Heading 1 TitleSubSection P:2 Heading 2 Title CR E:Title[CR], (E:Para*, E:List?) CR[Type = "Known Issue"] CR E:Para[CR]+, E:List[CR]? Description I hope this is clear enough. My mind is reeling! (And I'm sure the solution is much simpler than the question...) Thanks for any and all advice! Lin ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Webworks Std - Html output naming
Thanks for the info, Richard. WWStd does actually include Filename marker support... Thank God. But you're right, WWP Standard is rather limited...putting it mildly... It seems that you all use WWP Pro? Or the native Frame XML output maybe? (I'm not very familiar with XML and stuff so I didn't go much further than creating a structured document in FrameMaker based on one of the templates provided.) Thanks all for your help. Elisa -Message d'origine- De : Combs, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : Wednesday, May 23, 2007 4:44 PM À : Elisabeth SABOT; framers@lists.frameusers.com Objet : RE: Webworks Std - Html output naming Elisabeth SABOT wrote: > Thanks a mil for the tips. It works great! > However, I went through the online help (Getting Started, User Guide > and Template Reference are the only parts > provided) and I browsed the program files on my system but couldn't > find any mention of a Style Designer nor Filename marker anywhere so > far... > Is the Style Designer a panel in the application itself? IIRC (it's been a while since I've used WWP), Style Designer is only available in the Professional version of WWP, not the Standard version that's free with FM. (If it were there, you'd simply go to the Style menu and select Designer, or click the corresponding toolbar button.) The free Standard version of WWP is rather limited. You can generate output using one of the included templates, but you can't do much to modify those templates. Style Designer is the tool for modifying templates (defining new styles, adding macros, etc.). So the question is whether the pre-built templates in the Standard edition include support for the Filename marker, because I don't think you can add it if they don't. Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- This message and any attachments (the "message") is intended solely for the addressees and is confidential. If you receive this message in error, please delete it and immediately notify the sender. Any use not in accord with its purpose, any dissemination or disclosure, either whole or partial, is prohibited except formal approval. The internet can not guarantee the integrity of this message. Talend shall not therefore be liable for the message if modified. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: [SPAM] - Re: Webworks Std - Html output naming - Found word(s) list error in the Text body
Hi David, It worked fine, thanks. I've used a Filename element which auto-mapped with the Filename WW style. And the output looks fine so far (I've only generated part of the files). I think the WWStd edition is pretty restricted as no alteration to the WW styles seems to be authorized... However I need to look at it more thoroughly, maybe am overlooking something. Many thanks again for your help. Do you all (of most of yous) use WWPro? Elisa -Message d'origine- De : David Schor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : Wednesday, May 23, 2007 4:23 PM À : Elisabeth SABOT Cc : framers@lists.frameusers.com Objet : [SPAM] - Re: Webworks Std - Html output naming - Found word(s) list error in the Text body The marker type does not have to named "Filename". You can name it anything you want as long as you define it also in WW. Once again, I'm not sure where in the application. I'm not at work today, but I think Style Designer is in the Options menu or similar. David -- David Schor Senior Technical Writer RADLAN, a Marvell Company Tel: (+972) 3 7662823 Cellular: (+972) 54 4788253 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.marvell.com On 5/23/07, Elisabeth SABOT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > David, Chuck, and all > > Thanks a mil for the tips. It works great! > However, I went through the online help (Getting Started, User Guide and > Template Reference are the only parts provided) and I browsed the program > files on my system but couldn't find any mention of a Style Designer nor > Filename marker anywhere so far... > Is the Style Designer a panel in the application itself? (with this > bl**dy localised application which is btw badly translated, I can't find my > way) On the other hand, the online help doesn't fully match my actual WWStd > application (v8.0), there are some discrepancies between online help and the > actual application. (not talking about the fact that the online help is only > half-way translated... Leading to my second question about how to get back to > the English version of WWStd when running on a French OS). > > Many thanks again for your prompt replies and to all for this great list. > Elisa > > -Message d'origine- > De : David Schor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : Wednesday, May > 23, 2007 8:41 AM À : Elisabeth SABOT; framers@lists.frameusers.com > Objet : Re: Webworks Std - Html output naming > > Somewhere in WW, you probably have to define the reference to the "Filename" > marker (we use a different marker name where I work). Check in the Style > Designer. > > -- > David Schor > Senior Technical Writer > RADLAN, a Marvell Company > Tel: (+972) 3 7662823 > Cellular: (+972) 54 4788253 > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Web: www.marvell.com > > > On 5/22/07, Charles Beck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Elisa, > > > > I think I can help with the first question. It's been awhile since I > > did this, but I *think* I remember how to do it. > > > > What you need to do first is create a new marker type in Framemaker > > called "Filename". (This is the part I'm not 100% sure about, but > > the WebWorks documentation, I believe, has this procedure > > somewhere.) > > > > Then, for each heading that will constitute the beginning of a new > > file in HTML, add one of these markers. For the marker text, use > > what you want WebWorks to assign as the name of the file, minus the > > ".htm". For instance, in the example you gave, you would place a > > marker in the "Installing Foo" heading and enter "foo" as the marker > > text. Add another marker in the "Configuring Bar" heading and enter > > "bar" as the marker text. > > > > When you generate the output with WebWorks, like magic, WebWorks > > knows to assign these as the file names for the output files. > > > > Like I say, it's been awhile, but I am pretty sure this is right > > (though I feel compelled to add the caveat that I have always used > > WW Pro, not Standard... Not sure if the Standard version does it any > > differently). > > > > HTH, > > Chuck > > > > This message and any attachments (the "message") is intended solely for the > addressees and is confidential. If you receive this message in error, please > delete it and immediately notify the sender. Any use not in accord with its > purpose, any dissemination or disclosure, either whole or partial, is > prohibited except formal approval. The internet can not guarantee the > integrity of this message. Talend shall not therefore be liable for the > message if modified. > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dsch.tw%40gmail.co > m > > Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
Webworks Std - Html output naming
Somewhere in WW, you probably have to define the reference to the "Filename" marker (we use a different marker name where I work). Check in the Style Designer. -- David Schor Senior Technical Writer RADLAN, a Marvell Company Tel: (+972) 3 7662823 Cellular: (+972) 54 4788253 E-mail: dschor at marvell.com Web: www.marvell.com On 5/22/07, Charles Beck wrote: > Hi Elisa, > > I think I can help with the first question. It's been awhile since I did > this, but I *think* I remember how to do it. > > What you need to do first is create a new marker type in Framemaker > called "Filename". (This is the part I'm not 100% sure about, but the > WebWorks documentation, I believe, has this procedure somewhere.) > > Then, for each heading that will constitute the beginning of a new file > in HTML, add one of these markers. For the marker text, use what you > want WebWorks to assign as the name of the file, minus the ".htm". For > instance, in the example you gave, you would place a marker in the > "Installing Foo" heading and enter "foo" as the marker text. Add another > marker in the "Configuring Bar" heading and enter "bar" as the marker > text. > > When you generate the output with WebWorks, like magic, WebWorks knows > to assign these as the file names for the output files. > > Like I say, it's been awhile, but I am pretty sure this is right (though > I feel compelled to add the caveat that I have always used WW Pro, not > Standard... Not sure if the Standard version does it any differently). > > HTH, > Chuck >
OT! European budget airlines
Anyone have any experiences flying on European budget airlines, such as RyanAir, EasyJet, Transavia, etc.? These are the airlines that typically charge 30-50 euro per person compared to hundreds of euro to fly on the larger airlines. If you have, please share with me any pros (other than ridiculously low price) and cons. Please reply to me off-list, since this is definitely OT!! Thanks very much, David dsch.tw at gmail.com -- David Schor Senior Technical Writer RADLAN, a Marvell Company Tel: (+972) 3 7662823 Cellular: (+972) 54 4788253 E-mail: dschor at marvell.com Web: www.marvell.com
Webworks Std - Html output naming
Elisabeth SABOT wrote: > Thanks a mil for the tips. It works great! > However, I went through the online help (Getting Started, > User Guide and Template Reference are the only parts > provided) and I browsed the program files on my system but > couldn't find any mention of a Style Designer nor Filename > marker anywhere so far... > Is the Style Designer a panel in the application itself? IIRC (it's been a while since I've used WWP), Style Designer is only available in the Professional version of WWP, not the Standard version that's free with FM. (If it were there, you'd simply go to the Style menu and select Designer, or click the corresponding toolbar button.) The free Standard version of WWP is rather limited. You can generate output using one of the included templates, but you can't do much to modify those templates. Style Designer is the tool for modifying templates (defining new styles, adding macros, etc.). So the question is whether the pre-built templates in the Standard edition include support for the Filename marker, because I don't think you can add it if they don't. Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 --
RE: Webworks Std - Html output naming
Elisabeth SABOT wrote: > Thanks a mil for the tips. It works great! > However, I went through the online help (Getting Started, > User Guide and Template Reference are the only parts > provided) and I browsed the program files on my system but > couldn't find any mention of a Style Designer nor Filename > marker anywhere so far... > Is the Style Designer a panel in the application itself? IIRC (it's been a while since I've used WWP), Style Designer is only available in the Professional version of WWP, not the Standard version that's free with FM. (If it were there, you'd simply go to the Style menu and select Designer, or click the corresponding toolbar button.) The free Standard version of WWP is rather limited. You can generate output using one of the included templates, but you can't do much to modify those templates. Style Designer is the tool for modifying templates (defining new styles, adding macros, etc.). So the question is whether the pre-built templates in the Standard edition include support for the Filename marker, because I don't think you can add it if they don't. Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Webworks Std - Html output naming
The marker type does not have to named "Filename". You can name it anything you want as long as you define it also in WW. Once again, I'm not sure where in the application. I'm not at work today, but I think Style Designer is in the Options menu or similar. David -- David Schor Senior Technical Writer RADLAN, a Marvell Company Tel: (+972) 3 7662823 Cellular: (+972) 54 4788253 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.marvell.com On 5/23/07, Elisabeth SABOT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: David, Chuck, and all Thanks a mil for the tips. It works great! However, I went through the online help (Getting Started, User Guide and Template Reference are the only parts provided) and I browsed the program files on my system but couldn't find any mention of a Style Designer nor Filename marker anywhere so far... Is the Style Designer a panel in the application itself? (with this bl**dy localised application which is btw badly translated, I can't find my way) On the other hand, the online help doesn't fully match my actual WWStd application (v8.0), there are some discrepancies between online help and the actual application. (not talking about the fact that the online help is only half-way translated... Leading to my second question about how to get back to the English version of WWStd when running on a French OS). Many thanks again for your prompt replies and to all for this great list. Elisa -Message d'origine- De : David Schor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : Wednesday, May 23, 2007 8:41 AM À : Elisabeth SABOT; framers@lists.frameusers.com Objet : Re: Webworks Std - Html output naming Somewhere in WW, you probably have to define the reference to the "Filename" marker (we use a different marker name where I work). Check in the Style Designer. -- David Schor Senior Technical Writer RADLAN, a Marvell Company Tel: (+972) 3 7662823 Cellular: (+972) 54 4788253 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.marvell.com On 5/22/07, Charles Beck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Elisa, > > I think I can help with the first question. It's been awhile since I did > this, but I *think* I remember how to do it. > > What you need to do first is create a new marker type in Framemaker > called "Filename". (This is the part I'm not 100% sure about, but the > WebWorks documentation, I believe, has this procedure somewhere.) > > Then, for each heading that will constitute the beginning of a new file > in HTML, add one of these markers. For the marker text, use what you > want WebWorks to assign as the name of the file, minus the ".htm". For > instance, in the example you gave, you would place a marker in the > "Installing Foo" heading and enter "foo" as the marker text. Add another > marker in the "Configuring Bar" heading and enter "bar" as the marker > text. > > When you generate the output with WebWorks, like magic, WebWorks knows > to assign these as the file names for the output files. > > Like I say, it's been awhile, but I am pretty sure this is right (though > I feel compelled to add the caveat that I have always used WW Pro, not > Standard... Not sure if the Standard version does it any differently). > > HTH, > Chuck > This message and any attachments (the "message") is intended solely for the addressees and is confidential. If you receive this message in error, please delete it and immediately notify the sender. Any use not in accord with its purpose, any dissemination or disclosure, either whole or partial, is prohibited except formal approval. The internet can not guarantee the integrity of this message. Talend shall not therefore be liable for the message if modified. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dsch.tw%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Webworks Std - Html output naming
David, Chuck, and all Thanks a mil for the tips. It works great! However, I went through the online help (Getting Started, User Guide and Template Reference are the only parts provided) and I browsed the program files on my system but couldn't find any mention of a Style Designer nor Filename marker anywhere so far... Is the Style Designer a panel in the application itself? (with this bl**dy localised application which is btw badly translated, I can't find my way) On the other hand, the online help doesn't fully match my actual WWStd application (v8.0), there are some discrepancies between online help and the actual application. (not talking about the fact that the online help is only half-way translated... Leading to my second question about how to get back to the English version of WWStd when running on a French OS). Many thanks again for your prompt replies and to all for this great list. Elisa -Message d'origine- De : David Schor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : Wednesday, May 23, 2007 8:41 AM À : Elisabeth SABOT; framers@lists.frameusers.com Objet : Re: Webworks Std - Html output naming Somewhere in WW, you probably have to define the reference to the "Filename" marker (we use a different marker name where I work). Check in the Style Designer. -- David Schor Senior Technical Writer RADLAN, a Marvell Company Tel: (+972) 3 7662823 Cellular: (+972) 54 4788253 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.marvell.com On 5/22/07, Charles Beck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Elisa, > > I think I can help with the first question. It's been awhile since I did > this, but I *think* I remember how to do it. > > What you need to do first is create a new marker type in Framemaker > called "Filename". (This is the part I'm not 100% sure about, but the > WebWorks documentation, I believe, has this procedure somewhere.) > > Then, for each heading that will constitute the beginning of a new file > in HTML, add one of these markers. For the marker text, use what you > want WebWorks to assign as the name of the file, minus the ".htm". For > instance, in the example you gave, you would place a marker in the > "Installing Foo" heading and enter "foo" as the marker text. Add another > marker in the "Configuring Bar" heading and enter "bar" as the marker > text. > > When you generate the output with WebWorks, like magic, WebWorks knows > to assign these as the file names for the output files. > > Like I say, it's been awhile, but I am pretty sure this is right (though > I feel compelled to add the caveat that I have always used WW Pro, not > Standard... Not sure if the Standard version does it any differently). > > HTH, > Chuck > This message and any attachments (the "message") is intended solely for the addressees and is confidential. If you receive this message in error, please delete it and immediately notify the sender. Any use not in accord with its purpose, any dissemination or disclosure, either whole or partial, is prohibited except formal approval. The internet can not guarantee the integrity of this message. Talend shall not therefore be liable for the message if modified. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
