Re: third-party or Frame tools for doc review/collaboration

[Shlomo Perets]

Dov,

You wrote:

... However, Acrobat 8 (both Standard and Pro) allows a user to
enable a PDF file for shared review including users who only have
the free Reader 8.

Shouldn't it be '(both Pro and 3D)'?   As far as I remember,
Standard does not have the Enable for Commenting in Adobe Reader
function (this is also indicated in the comparison between different
Acrobat versions, http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/matrix.html )


Shlomo Perets

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Re: third-party or Frame tools for doc review/collaboration

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Re: third-party or Frame tools for doc review/collaboration

[Shmuel Wolfson]

Well if you want to just get the PDF Standard, you can always send the 
PDF with a link to the PDF-XChange Viewer (free). With this tool you can 
add comments to any PDF, including encrypted ones.

http://www.docu-track.com/downloads/users/

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Shlomo Perets wrote:
 Dov,

 You wrote:

   
 ... However, Acrobat 8 (both Standard and Pro) allows a user to
 enable a PDF file for shared review including users who only have
 the free Reader 8.
 

 Shouldn't it be '(both Pro and 3D)'?   As far as I remember,
 Standard does not have the Enable for Commenting in Adobe Reader
 function (this is also indicated in the comparison between different
 Acrobat versions, http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/matrix.html )


 Shlomo Perets

 MicroType, http://www.microtype.com * ToolbarPlus Express for FrameMaker
 FrameMaker/Acrobat training  consulting * FrameMaker-to-Acrobat 
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RE: third-party or Frame tools for doc review/collaboration

[Peter Crimmin]

 
The ScanSoft PDFconverter product is less expensive than Acrobat.
It works well for online reviews; people can attach comments and strike
out text.
(Plus there are other nice features.)
 
There is also the JAWS pdf editor. Inexpensive I think. 
 
 
Disclaimer: PDFconverter is manufactured by a division of Nuance, my
employer. 
 
 

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re: Unavailable fonts issue

[Diane Schaefer]

Hi Isabelle,

I recently made an amazing discovery regarding elusive, unavailable
fonts:

If you copy and paste non-Frame, non-HTML information into your
(unstructured, 7.2) Frame document, the information is copied into a
text frame. In my documents, and perhaps in yours, the font specified is
Times New Roman, which isn't in my font repertoire. Hence the
unavailable fonts. 

Of course we are supposed to import text from Word and the like, but
sometimes I want to take a shortcut and paste in Word snippets to
rewrite. More heinous, now that my Outlook has been updated to 2007, I
find that text snippets from HTML (or even RTF) emails, which I often
would copy and use verbatim, can no longer be pasted directly into
Frame, but cause the same problem.

The work around for the text snippets, to avoid those awful unavailable
font popups, is to open an HTML editor such as Dreamweaver, paste to an
HTML file, deselect and reselect the text, copy and paste into Frame. (I
used to used Outlook 2003 to do this sometimes, but even this pleasure
is now denied me.)

The only work-around I've found to get rid of these unavailable fonts is
to use the Remember Missing Font Names option under
FilePreferencesGeneral. You may have to save, close, reselect or
deselect, then perform the procedure again a few times before the
problem is solved.

HTH,
Diane 

Diane Schaefer
Senior Technical Writer
Sandvine Technologies Ltd.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
tel. 972-2-540-090, ext. 125


-
Hi Framers,
 
I'm sure this is a very novice question, but I need some help.
 
I'm running Windows XP (SP2), using unstructured FrameMaker 7.2.
 
Even though I've checked all the paragraph and character tags for stray
fonts and have generated a list of fonts for each file, I get a
Document named xxx uses unavailable fonts... message. The console
displays a font that I know is nowhere in my documents, so how do I get
rid of this pop-up? The more important issue is that because the
documents are reformated on opening because of substitution of fonts, I
get unresolved cross-references alerts on good refs every time I reopen
saved files.
 
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Re: Unavailable fonts issue

[Shmuel Wolfson]

You can easily avoid this by using PureText. It removes all formatting 
from the original text.

Regards,
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052-763-7133



Diane Schaefer wrote:
 Hi Isabelle,

 I recently made an amazing discovery regarding elusive, unavailable
 fonts:

 If you copy and paste non-Frame, non-HTML information into your
 (unstructured, 7.2) Frame document, the information is copied into a
 text frame. In my documents, and perhaps in yours, the font specified is
 Times New Roman, which isn't in my font repertoire. Hence the
 unavailable fonts. 

 Of course we are supposed to import text from Word and the like, but
 sometimes I want to take a shortcut and paste in Word snippets to
 rewrite. More heinous, now that my Outlook has been updated to 2007, I
 find that text snippets from HTML (or even RTF) emails, which I often
 would copy and use verbatim, can no longer be pasted directly into
 Frame, but cause the same problem.

 The work around for the text snippets, to avoid those awful unavailable
 font popups, is to open an HTML editor such as Dreamweaver, paste to an
 HTML file, deselect and reselect the text, copy and paste into Frame. (I
 used to used Outlook 2003 to do this sometimes, but even this pleasure
 is now denied me.)

 The only work-around I've found to get rid of these unavailable fonts is
 to use the Remember Missing Font Names option under
 FilePreferencesGeneral. You may have to save, close, reselect or
 deselect, then perform the procedure again a few times before the
 problem is solved.

 HTH,
 Diane 

 Diane Schaefer
 Senior Technical Writer
 Sandvine Technologies Ltd.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 tel. 972-2-540-090, ext. 125

 
 -
 Hi Framers,
  
 I'm sure this is a very novice question, but I need some help.
  
 I'm running Windows XP (SP2), using unstructured FrameMaker 7.2.
  
 Even though I've checked all the paragraph and character tags for stray
 fonts and have generated a list of fonts for each file, I get a
 Document named xxx uses unavailable fonts... message. The console
 displays a font that I know is nowhere in my documents, so how do I get
 rid of this pop-up? The more important issue is that because the
 documents are reformated on opening because of substitution of fonts, I
 get unresolved cross-references alerts on good refs every time I reopen
 saved files.
  
 .***
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RE: third-party or Frame tools for doc review/collaboration

[Dov Isaacs]

Yes, Shlomo is correct! Sorry!

- Dov

 -Original Message-
 From: Shlomo Perets [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 4:38 AM
 
 Dov,
 
 You wrote:
 
 ... However, Acrobat 8 (both Standard and Pro) allows a user to
 enable a PDF file for shared review including users who only have
 the free Reader 8.
 
 Shouldn't it be '(both Pro and 3D)'?   As far as I remember,
 Standard does not have the Enable for Commenting in Adobe Reader
 function (this is also indicated in the comparison between different
 Acrobat versions, http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/matrix.html )
 
 
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Re: Unavailable fonts issue

[Lise Bible]

If Paste Special  (as) Text doesn't work, what I do for text with
formatting I don't want to keep is to paste it into Notepad. I copy the
text, paste into Notepad, select all the text in Notepad, copy, then paste
into your desired document.
Notepad strips all the formatting.

Not as easy as it seems PureText would be, but fairly painless if you're
used to the standard Windows keyboard shortcuts (Ctrl-C, Ctrl-A, Ctrl-V).

-Lise

On Jan 3, 2008 2:49 AM, Diane Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Isabelle,

 I recently made an amazing discovery regarding elusive, unavailable
 fonts:

 If you copy and paste non-Frame, non-HTML information into your
 (unstructured, 7.2) Frame document, the information is copied into a
 text frame. In my documents, and perhaps in yours, the font specified is
 Times New Roman, which isn't in my font repertoire. Hence the
 unavailable fonts.

 Of course we are supposed to import text from Word and the like, but
 sometimes I want to take a shortcut and paste in Word snippets to
 rewrite. More heinous, now that my Outlook has been updated to 2007, I
 find that text snippets from HTML (or even RTF) emails, which I often
 would copy and use verbatim, can no longer be pasted directly into
 Frame, but cause the same problem.

 The work around for the text snippets, to avoid those awful unavailable
 font popups, is to open an HTML editor such as Dreamweaver, paste to an
 HTML file, deselect and reselect the text, copy and paste into Frame. (I
 used to used Outlook 2003 to do this sometimes, but even this pleasure
 is now denied me.)

 The only work-around I've found to get rid of these unavailable fonts is
 to use the Remember Missing Font Names option under
 FilePreferencesGeneral. You may have to save, close, reselect or
 deselect, then perform the procedure again a few times before the
 problem is solved.

 HTH,
 Diane

 Diane Schaefer
 Senior Technical Writer
 Sandvine Technologies Ltd.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 tel. 972-2-540-090, ext. 125

 
 -
 Hi Framers,

 I'm sure this is a very novice question, but I need some help.

 I'm running Windows XP (SP2), using unstructured FrameMaker 7.2.

 Even though I've checked all the paragraph and character tags for stray
 fonts and have generated a list of fonts for each file, I get a
 Document named xxx uses unavailable fonts... message. The console
 displays a font that I know is nowhere in my documents, so how do I get
 rid of this pop-up? The more important issue is that because the
 documents are reformated on opening because of substitution of fonts, I
 get unresolved cross-references alerts on good refs every time I reopen
 saved files.

 .***
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RE: Keeping Two Tables Together in Frame 6.0

[Lester C. Smalley]

Theresa -

Is it acceptable to have the tables themselves break over page/column
boundaries?

You should check the Orphan Row setting (in the Basic tab of the table
designer) and change the value to a smaller figure, even down to its
minimum setting of 1.  Note that this is explicitly only orphan rows -
there is no widow row option, so you could get an initial single row
and then the balance of the table on the next page.  There is also the
possibility that the rows have a custom minimum height or Keep with
Next/Previous settings (both controlled via Table  Row Format) that
affect how a table breaks if necessary.

You might also reduce the cell margins of the table design, and also of
the paragraphs used in the cells (under the Table Cell tab of the
paragraph designer) to reduce the vertical space needed for the contents
of a row.

The table's Space Above/Space Below  properties may also affect
pagination.

Finally, does the anchoring paragraph have its Keep with Next, or the
next paragraph the Keep with Previous, setting enabled?

On Wednesday, January 02, 2008 04:49 PM, Theresa Zamborsky wrote:

| Does anyone have suggestions of how to keep two tables (that use
| different table formats) together in Frame 6.0?  These two tables
| are both anchored on the same blank para. line, but sometimes the
| second table paginates to the next page.  Because of Frame scripts 
| that we use, the two tables need to remain anchored on the same
| para. line for the time being.  I already tried having the tables
| anchored to two separate para. lines and keeping those two para.
| lines together, but that breaks our Frame script.  
| 
| Any suggestions would be appreciated.
| 
|
| Thanks,
| 
| Theresa

I hope this helps.


- Lester 
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RE: Unavailable fonts issue

[Combs, Richard]

Diane Schaefer wrote:

 If you copy and paste non-Frame, non-HTML information into 
 your (unstructured, 7.2) Frame document, the information is 
 copied into a text frame. In my documents, and perhaps in 
 yours, the font specified is Times New Roman, which isn't in 
 my font repertoire. Hence the unavailable fonts. 

When you paste from another (non-FM) source into FM, the format is
determined by a maker.ini setting (and the nature of the material
copied, of course) that looks like this: 

ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF, RTF,
TEXT

You can override this by selecting Edit  Paste Special, and then
choosing from the available options. 

But if you regularly paste text from Word, emails, etc., into your FM
docs, I suggest you change the maker.ini setting so that text comes
first. Then, the Paste command will (for textual material) default to
pasting plain, unformatted text (which will, of course, adopt the
formatting of the pgf into which you paste it). Here's the way I have my
maker.ini line set:

ClipboardFormatsPriorities=TEXT, MIF, RTF, FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB,
BMP 

HTH!
Richard


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303-223-5111
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adding table continuation variable to all table titles automatically?

[Matthew Reeves]

I see how to manually insert the variable into a title for a table that
spans more than a single page, but is there a way to add the variable to the
title paragraph style such that it is implemented whenever applicable?
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RE: Unavailable fonts issue

[Diane Schaefer]

Gulp. I just tried the Paste Special feature for the first time today.
And you know what? when I pasted as text, it actually worked without the
annoying fonts.

Diane

-Original Message-
From: Combs, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 5:24 PM
To: Diane Schaefer; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Unavailable fonts issue 

Diane Schaefer wrote:

 If you copy and paste non-Frame, non-HTML information into 
 your (unstructured, 7.2) Frame document, the information is 
 copied into a text frame. In my documents, and perhaps in 
 yours, the font specified is Times New Roman, which isn't in 
 my font repertoire. Hence the unavailable fonts. 

When you paste from another (non-FM) source into FM, the format is
determined by a maker.ini setting (and the nature of the material
copied, of course) that looks like this: 

ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF, RTF,
TEXT

You can override this by selecting Edit  Paste Special, and then
choosing from the available options. 

But if you regularly paste text from Word, emails, etc., into your FM
docs, I suggest you change the maker.ini setting so that text comes
first. Then, the Paste command will (for textual material) default to
pasting plain, unformatted text (which will, of course, adopt the
formatting of the pgf into which you paste it). Here's the way I have my
maker.ini line set:

ClipboardFormatsPriorities=TEXT, MIF, RTF, FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB,
BMP 

HTH!
Richard


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303-223-5111
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non-breaking space in cross-reference?

[James Dyson]

Does anyone know how to make a non-breaking space in a cross reference?
I'm using unstructured 7.1. I'm stumped.

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third-party or Frame tools for doc review/collaboration

[Shlomo Perets]

Dov,

You wrote:

>... However, Acrobat 8 (both "Standard" and "Pro") allows a user to
>enable a PDF file for shared review including users who only have
>the free Reader 8.

Shouldn't it be '(both "Pro" and "3D")'?   As far as I remember,
Standard does not have the "Enable for Commenting in Adobe Reader"
function (this is also indicated in the comparison between different
Acrobat versions, http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/matrix.html )


Shlomo Perets

MicroType, http://www.microtype.com * ToolbarPlus Express for FrameMaker
FrameMaker/Acrobat training & consulting * FrameMaker-to-Acrobat 
TimeSavers/Assistants

third-party or Frame tools for doc review/collaboration

[Shmuel Wolfson]

Unavailable fonts issue

[Diane Schaefer]

Hi Isabelle,

I recently made an amazing discovery regarding elusive, unavailable
fonts:

If you copy and paste non-Frame, non-HTML information into your
(unstructured, 7.2) Frame document, the information is copied into a
text frame. In my documents, and perhaps in yours, the font specified is
Times New Roman, which isn't in my font repertoire. Hence the
unavailable fonts. 

Of course we are supposed to import text from Word and the like, but
sometimes I want to take a shortcut and paste in Word snippets to
rewrite. More heinous, now that my Outlook has been updated to 2007, I
find that text snippets from HTML (or even RTF) emails, which I often
would copy and use verbatim, can no longer be pasted directly into
Frame, but cause the same problem.

The work around for the text snippets, to avoid those awful unavailable
font popups, is to open an HTML editor such as Dreamweaver, paste to an
HTML file, deselect and reselect the text, copy and paste into Frame. (I
used to used Outlook 2003 to do this sometimes, but even this pleasure
is now denied me.)

The only work-around I've found to get rid of these unavailable fonts is
to use the Remember Missing Font Names option under
File>Preferences>General. You may have to save, close, reselect or
deselect, then perform the procedure again a few times before the
problem is solved.

HTH,
Diane 

Diane Schaefer
Senior Technical Writer
Sandvine Technologies Ltd.
dschaefer at sandvine.com
tel. 972-2-540-090, ext. 125


-
Hi Framers,

I'm sure this is a very novice question, but I need some help.

I'm running Windows XP (SP2), using unstructured FrameMaker 7.2.

Even though I've checked all the paragraph and character tags for stray
fonts and have generated a list of fonts for each file, I get a
"Document named xxx uses unavailable fonts..." message. The console
displays a font that I know is nowhere in my documents, so how do I get
rid of this pop-up? The more important issue is that because the
documents are reformated on opening because of substitution of fonts, I
get unresolved cross-references alerts on good refs every time I reopen
saved files.

.***

third-party or Frame tools for doc review/collaboration

[Peter Crimmin]

The ScanSoft PDFconverter product is less expensive than Acrobat.
It works well for online reviews; people can attach comments and strike
out text.
(Plus there are other nice features.)

There is also the JAWS pdf editor. Inexpensive I think. 


Disclaimer: PDFconverter is manufactured by a division of Nuance, my
employer. 



__


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Documentation Manager

NUANCE COMMUNICATIONS, INC.
One Wayside Road
Burlington  MA  01803

m 617 308 4974 (preferred)
h 617 924 5095 (at home in Boston)

third-party or Frame tools for doc review/collaboration

[Shmuel Wolfson]

Well if you want to just get the PDF Standard, you can always send the 
PDF with a link to the PDF-XChange Viewer (free). With this tool you can 
add comments to any PDF, including encrypted ones.

http://www.docu-track.com/downloads/users/

Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
052-763-7133



Shlomo Perets wrote:
> Dov,
>
> You wrote:
>
>   
>> ... However, Acrobat 8 (both "Standard" and "Pro") allows a user to
>> enable a PDF file for shared review including users who only have
>> the free Reader 8.
>> 
>
> Shouldn't it be '(both "Pro" and "3D")'?   As far as I remember,
> Standard does not have the "Enable for Commenting in Adobe Reader"
> function (this is also indicated in the comparison between different
> Acrobat versions, http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/matrix.html )
>
>
> Shlomo Perets
>
> MicroType, http://www.microtype.com * ToolbarPlus Express for FrameMaker
> FrameMaker/Acrobat training & consulting * FrameMaker-to-Acrobat 
> TimeSavers/Assistants
>
>
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Unavailable fonts issue

[Shmuel Wolfson]

You can easily avoid this by using PureText. It removes all formatting 
from the original text.

Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
052-763-7133



Diane Schaefer wrote:
> Hi Isabelle,
>
> I recently made an amazing discovery regarding elusive, unavailable
> fonts:
>
> If you copy and paste non-Frame, non-HTML information into your
> (unstructured, 7.2) Frame document, the information is copied into a
> text frame. In my documents, and perhaps in yours, the font specified is
> Times New Roman, which isn't in my font repertoire. Hence the
> unavailable fonts. 
>
> Of course we are supposed to import text from Word and the like, but
> sometimes I want to take a shortcut and paste in Word snippets to
> rewrite. More heinous, now that my Outlook has been updated to 2007, I
> find that text snippets from HTML (or even RTF) emails, which I often
> would copy and use verbatim, can no longer be pasted directly into
> Frame, but cause the same problem.
>
> The work around for the text snippets, to avoid those awful unavailable
> font popups, is to open an HTML editor such as Dreamweaver, paste to an
> HTML file, deselect and reselect the text, copy and paste into Frame. (I
> used to used Outlook 2003 to do this sometimes, but even this pleasure
> is now denied me.)
>
> The only work-around I've found to get rid of these unavailable fonts is
> to use the Remember Missing Font Names option under
> File>Preferences>General. You may have to save, close, reselect or
> deselect, then perform the procedure again a few times before the
> problem is solved.
>
> HTH,
> Diane 
>
> Diane Schaefer
> Senior Technical Writer
> Sandvine Technologies Ltd.
> dschaefer at sandvine.com
> tel. 972-2-540-090, ext. 125
>
> 
> -
> Hi Framers,
>  
> I'm sure this is a very novice question, but I need some help.
>  
> I'm running Windows XP (SP2), using unstructured FrameMaker 7.2.
>  
> Even though I've checked all the paragraph and character tags for stray
> fonts and have generated a list of fonts for each file, I get a
> "Document named xxx uses unavailable fonts..." message. The console
> displays a font that I know is nowhere in my documents, so how do I get
> rid of this pop-up? The more important issue is that because the
> documents are reformated on opening because of substitution of fonts, I
> get unresolved cross-references alerts on good refs every time I reopen
> saved files.
>  
> .***
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third-party or Frame tools for doc review/collaboration

[Dov Isaacs]

Yes, Shlomo is correct! Sorry!

- Dov

> -Original Message-
> From: Shlomo Perets [mailto:shlomo2 at microtype.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 4:38 AM
> 
> Dov,
> 
> You wrote:
> 
> >... However, Acrobat 8 (both "Standard" and "Pro") allows a user to
> >enable a PDF file for shared review including users who only have
> >the free Reader 8.
> 
> Shouldn't it be '(both "Pro" and "3D")'?   As far as I remember,
> Standard does not have the "Enable for Commenting in Adobe Reader"
> function (this is also indicated in the comparison between different
> Acrobat versions, http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/matrix.html )
> 
> 
> Shlomo Perets

Unavailable fonts issue

[Lise Bible]

If Paste Special > (as) Text doesn't work, what I do for text with
formatting I don't want to keep is to paste it into Notepad. I copy the
text, paste into Notepad, select all the text in Notepad, copy, then paste
into your desired document.
Notepad strips all the formatting.

Not as easy as it seems PureText would be, but fairly painless if you're
used to the standard Windows keyboard shortcuts (Ctrl-C, Ctrl-A, Ctrl-V).

-Lise

On Jan 3, 2008 2:49 AM, Diane Schaefer  wrote:

> Hi Isabelle,
>
> I recently made an amazing discovery regarding elusive, unavailable
> fonts:
>
> If you copy and paste non-Frame, non-HTML information into your
> (unstructured, 7.2) Frame document, the information is copied into a
> text frame. In my documents, and perhaps in yours, the font specified is
> Times New Roman, which isn't in my font repertoire. Hence the
> unavailable fonts.
>
> Of course we are supposed to import text from Word and the like, but
> sometimes I want to take a shortcut and paste in Word snippets to
> rewrite. More heinous, now that my Outlook has been updated to 2007, I
> find that text snippets from HTML (or even RTF) emails, which I often
> would copy and use verbatim, can no longer be pasted directly into
> Frame, but cause the same problem.
>
> The work around for the text snippets, to avoid those awful unavailable
> font popups, is to open an HTML editor such as Dreamweaver, paste to an
> HTML file, deselect and reselect the text, copy and paste into Frame. (I
> used to used Outlook 2003 to do this sometimes, but even this pleasure
> is now denied me.)
>
> The only work-around I've found to get rid of these unavailable fonts is
> to use the Remember Missing Font Names option under
> File>Preferences>General. You may have to save, close, reselect or
> deselect, then perform the procedure again a few times before the
> problem is solved.
>
> HTH,
> Diane
>
> Diane Schaefer
> Senior Technical Writer
> Sandvine Technologies Ltd.
> dschaefer at sandvine.com
> tel. 972-2-540-090, ext. 125
>
> 
> -
> Hi Framers,
>
> I'm sure this is a very novice question, but I need some help.
>
> I'm running Windows XP (SP2), using unstructured FrameMaker 7.2.
>
> Even though I've checked all the paragraph and character tags for stray
> fonts and have generated a list of fonts for each file, I get a
> "Document named xxx uses unavailable fonts..." message. The console
> displays a font that I know is nowhere in my documents, so how do I get
> rid of this pop-up? The more important issue is that because the
> documents are reformated on opening because of substitution of fonts, I
> get unresolved cross-references alerts on good refs every time I reopen
> saved files.
>
> .***
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>
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Keeping Two Tables Together in Frame 6.0

[Lester C. Smalley]

Theresa -

Is it acceptable to have the tables themselves break over page/column
boundaries?

You should check the Orphan Row setting (in the Basic tab of the table
designer) and change the value to a smaller figure, even down to its
minimum setting of 1.  Note that this is explicitly only orphan rows -
there is no "widow row" option, so you could get an initial single row
and then the balance of the table on the next page.  There is also the
possibility that the rows have a custom minimum height or Keep with
Next/Previous settings (both controlled via Table > Row Format) that
affect how a table breaks if necessary.

You might also reduce the cell margins of the table design, and also of
the paragraphs used in the cells (under the Table Cell tab of the
paragraph designer) to reduce the vertical space needed for the contents
of a row.

The table's Space Above/Space Below  properties may also affect
pagination.

Finally, does the anchoring paragraph have its Keep with Next, or the
next paragraph the Keep with Previous, setting enabled?

On Wednesday, January 02, 2008 04:49 PM, Theresa Zamborsky wrote:

| Does anyone have suggestions of how to keep two tables (that use
| different table formats) together in Frame 6.0?  These two tables
| are both anchored on the same blank para. line, but sometimes the
| second table paginates to the next page.  Because of Frame scripts 
| that we use, the two tables need to remain anchored on the same
| para. line for the time being.  I already tried having the tables
| anchored to two separate para. lines and keeping those two para.
| lines together, but that breaks our Frame script.  
| 
| Any suggestions would be appreciated.
| 
|
| Thanks,
| 
| Theresa

I hope this helps.


- Lester 
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Information Consultants, Inc.  Phone: 302-239-2942 FAX: 302-239-1712
Yorklyn, DE  19736   Web: www.infocon.com   
---

Unavailable fonts issue

[Combs, Richard]

Diane Schaefer wrote:

> If you copy and paste non-Frame, non-HTML information into 
> your (unstructured, 7.2) Frame document, the information is 
> copied into a text frame. In my documents, and perhaps in 
> yours, the font specified is Times New Roman, which isn't in 
> my font repertoire. Hence the unavailable fonts. 

When you paste from another (non-FM) source into FM, the format is
determined by a maker.ini setting (and the nature of the material
copied, of course) that looks like this: 

ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF, RTF,
TEXT

You can override this by selecting Edit > Paste Special, and then
choosing from the available options. 

But if you regularly paste text from Word, emails, etc., into your FM
docs, I suggest you change the maker.ini setting so that text comes
first. Then, the Paste command will (for textual material) default to
pasting plain, unformatted text (which will, of course, adopt the
formatting of the pgf into which you paste it). Here's the way I have my
maker.ini line set:

ClipboardFormatsPriorities=TEXT, MIF, RTF, FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB,
BMP 

HTH!
Richard


--
Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
303-777-0436
--

Unavailable fonts issue

[Diane Schaefer]

Gulp. I just tried the Paste Special feature for the first time today.
And you know what? when I pasted as text, it actually worked without the
annoying fonts.

Diane

-Original Message-
From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.co...@polycom.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 5:24 PM
To: Diane Schaefer; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Unavailable fonts issue 

Diane Schaefer wrote:

> If you copy and paste non-Frame, non-HTML information into 
> your (unstructured, 7.2) Frame document, the information is 
> copied into a text frame. In my documents, and perhaps in 
> yours, the font specified is Times New Roman, which isn't in 
> my font repertoire. Hence the unavailable fonts. 

When you paste from another (non-FM) source into FM, the format is
determined by a maker.ini setting (and the nature of the material
copied, of course) that looks like this: 

ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF, RTF,
TEXT

You can override this by selecting Edit > Paste Special, and then
choosing from the available options. 

But if you regularly paste text from Word, emails, etc., into your FM
docs, I suggest you change the maker.ini setting so that text comes
first. Then, the Paste command will (for textual material) default to
pasting plain, unformatted text (which will, of course, adopt the
formatting of the pgf into which you paste it). Here's the way I have my
maker.ini line set:

ClipboardFormatsPriorities=TEXT, MIF, RTF, FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB,
BMP 

HTH!
Richard


--
Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
303-777-0436
--

adding table continuation variable to all table titles automatically?

[Matthew Reeves]

I see how to manually insert the variable into a title for a table that
spans more than a single page, but is there a way to add the variable to the
title paragraph style such that it is implemented whenever applicable?

non-breaking space in cross-reference?

[James Dyson]

Does anyone know how to make a non-breaking space in a cross reference?
I'm using unstructured 7.1. I'm stumped.

James Dyson
Technical Writer
KVH Industries, Inc.
50 Enterprise Center | Middletown, RI 02842
Direct Tel: +1 401.845.2416
Tel: +1 401.847.3327 | Fax: +1 401.849-0045
jdyson at kvh.com
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non-breaking space in cross-reference?

[Fred Ridder]

James Dyson asked:> Does anyone know how to make a non-breaking space in a 
cross reference?
> I'm using unstructured 7.1. I'm stumped.

Appendix A of the User Guide is your friend. To type a non-breaking space
in a dialog box, you type a backslash followed by a space. 

-Fred Ridder
_
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http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_122007

Keeping Two Tables Together in Frame 6.0

[Theresa Zamborsky]

Hi Lester,

Thanks for your email response and to the other email response I got
with similar suggestions.  These are all good suggestions about
controlling where or how much a single table will break across pages.  

My issue is that the second table sometimes breaks away from the first
table, depending on the pagination of each page. I want at least the
first two lines of the second table to stay together with the first
table in all instances.  The two tables are both anchored to the same
blank paragraph line.

We thought of putting the first table into an anchored frame inside the
top (straddled) row of the second table to keep both together in one
table.  But because of the amount of conditional text that we use, this
isn't an option either.  The anchored frame will not shrink or expand
automatically to accommodate the various conditional text versions, and
the documents are too long for us to adjust the anchored frames
manually.

Thanks,
Theresa


-Original Message-
From: Lester C. Smalley [mailto:lsmal...@infocon.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 7:22 AM
To: Theresa Zamborsky; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Keeping Two Tables Together in Frame 6.0

Theresa -

Is it acceptable to have the tables themselves break over page/column
boundaries?

You should check the Orphan Row setting (in the Basic tab of the table
designer) and change the value to a smaller figure, even down to its
minimum setting of 1.  Note that this is explicitly only orphan rows -
there is no "widow row" option, so you could get an initial single row
and then the balance of the table on the next page.  There is also the
possibility that the rows have a custom minimum height or Keep with
Next/Previous settings (both controlled via Table > Row Format) that
affect how a table breaks if necessary.

You might also reduce the cell margins of the table design, and also of
the paragraphs used in the cells (under the Table Cell tab of the
paragraph designer) to reduce the vertical space needed for the contents
of a row.

The table's Space Above/Space Below  properties may also affect
pagination.

Finally, does the anchoring paragraph have its Keep with Next, or the
next paragraph the Keep with Previous, setting enabled?

On Wednesday, January 02, 2008 04:49 PM, Theresa Zamborsky wrote:

| Does anyone have suggestions of how to keep two tables (that use
| different table formats) together in Frame 6.0?  These two tables
| are both anchored on the same blank para. line, but sometimes the
| second table paginates to the next page.  Because of Frame scripts 
| that we use, the two tables need to remain anchored on the same
| para. line for the time being.  I already tried having the tables
| anchored to two separate para. lines and keeping those two para.
| lines together, but that breaks our Frame script.  
| 
| Any suggestions would be appreciated.
| 
|
| Thanks,
| 
| Theresa

I hope this helps.


- Lester 
---
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Information Consultants, Inc.  Phone: 302-239-2942 FAX: 302-239-1712
Yorklyn, DE  19736   Web: www.infocon.com   
---

Framers Digest, Vol 27, Issue 3

[Theresa Zamborsky]

Thanks for the suggestion, Ann.  We thought of this too.  Because of the
complexity of the information and the number of columns in the first
table (as many as 33), I couldn't make this method work either.

Theresa


-Original Message-
From: Ann Balaban [mailto:abala...@tsystem.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 8:21 AM
To: Theresa Zamborsky
Subject: FW: Framers Digest, Vol 27, Issue 3

I would probably end up making one table and just formatting the
sections differently
using straddles and splits. I'll be interested in seeing what kind of
response you get.

Regards,
annb
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Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 13:49:15 -0800
From: "Theresa Zamborsky" 
Subject: Keeping Two Tables Together in Frame 6.0
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Hi, 

Does anyone have suggestions of how to keep two tables (that use
different table formats) together in Frame 6.0?  These two tables are
both anchored on the same blank para. line, but sometimes the second
table paginates to the next page.  Because of Frame scripts that we use,
the two tables need to remain anchored on the same para. line for the
time being.  I already tried having the tables anchored to two separate
para. lines and keeping those two para. lines together, but that breaks
our Frame script.  

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Theresa