Scripting pulling FM files from version control and creating PDFs

[Michael O'Neill]

You could probably do it with AutoIT, though it would take some practice
to get right.  If you have an engineer to work with, they could probably
make quick work out of it (after complaining about how AutoIT is too
much like Visual Basic) with your help.

http://www.autoitscript.com/autoit3/

I managed to hack together automation for many of my tasks.

-Michael

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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Linda G.
Gallagher
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 8:17 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Scripting pulling FM files from version control and creating
PDFs

Framers,

A client would like to be able to have a script that runs nightly that
will
do the following:

- Pull FM files and books from their version control system (PVCS)

- Maybe set conditions (not sure if this is needed yet)

- Update the books

- Create PDFs of books and some stand-alone files

- Put the resulting PDFs in a specific place for the nightly build

It seems like fmbatch can do this, but I think it only works with FM for
Unix (they have FM for Win). 

Can any of the other FDK tools do this? (An in-house developer will
likely
write the script.)

What about FrameScript?

What tool is best?

Thanks for your help!

~
Linda G. Gallagher
TechCom Plus, LLC
lindag at techcomplus dot com
www.techcomplus.com
303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144
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Scripting pulling FM files from version control and creating PDFs

[Linda G. Gallagher]

Framers,

A client would like to be able to have a script that runs nightly that will
do the following:

- Pull FM files and books from their version control system (PVCS)

- Maybe set conditions (not sure if this is needed yet)

- Update the books

- Create PDFs of books and some stand-alone files

- Put the resulting PDFs in a specific place for the nightly build

It seems like fmbatch can do this, but I think it only works with FM for
Unix (they have FM for Win). 

Can any of the other FDK tools do this? (An in-house developer will likely
write the script.)

What about FrameScript?

What tool is best?

Thanks for your help!

~
Linda G. Gallagher
TechCom Plus, LLC
lindag at techcomplus dot com
www.techcomplus.com
303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144
User guides, online help, FrameMaker and
WebWorks ePublisher templates

cross reference vs variables

[Mike Wickham]

> In these documents that I am currently cleaning up, the title,
> customer name, document date, and document number are all variables on
> the title page, but then are cross-referenced throughout the chapters.
> It would make more sense that they are variables throughout?

Yes, having them all as variables would be better. You get the same result, 
but without the added overhead of making sure links don't get broken. 
Variables don't have links.

Mike Wickham 

RE: Scripting pulling FM files from version control and creating PDFs

[Michael O'Neill]

You could probably do it with AutoIT, though it would take some practice
to get right.  If you have an engineer to work with, they could probably
make quick work out of it (after complaining about how AutoIT is too
much like Visual Basic) with your help.

http://www.autoitscript.com/autoit3/

I managed to hack together automation for many of my tasks.

-Michael

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Gallagher
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 8:17 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Scripting pulling FM files from version control and creating
PDFs

Framers,

A client would like to be able to have a script that runs nightly that
will
do the following:

- Pull FM files and books from their version control system (PVCS)

- Maybe set conditions (not sure if this is needed yet)

- Update the books

- Create PDFs of books and some stand-alone files

- Put the resulting PDFs in a specific place for the nightly build

It seems like fmbatch can do this, but I think it only works with FM for
Unix (they have FM for Win). 

Can any of the other FDK tools do this? (An in-house developer will
likely
write the script.)

What about FrameScript?

What tool is best?

Thanks for your help!

~
Linda G. Gallagher
TechCom Plus, LLC
lindag at techcomplus dot com
www.techcomplus.com
303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144
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cross reference vs variables

[Mike Wickham]

> Just to mix things up, the next question will appear in the form of a 
> statement.
>
> There is very little difference between cross-references and variables.
>
> Discuss.
>
> Deirdre

One advantage of variables is that you can't delete them accidentally. More 
than once, I have deleted a section of text and not noticed that it 
contained a cross-reference or cross-reference marker referenced from 
somewhere else. Deleteing either one breaks the cross-reference, leaving an 
unresolved cross-reference. But if I delete text that contains a variable, 
big deal. I only deleted the text, because the variable definition still 
exists to work everywhere else it has been, and ever will be, used.

There are lots of differences between cross-references and variables. Use 
cross-references to link to somewhere else you want the reader to go. "See 
figure x on page nnn" for example.

Use user variables for data you may want to change. For example, some create 
user variables for product names because the final name of the product may 
change before it goes into production-- like the way Microsoft called a 
product "Chicago" before it was eventually released as Windows 95-- or maybe 
the product is sold to others to be resold under different proprietary brand 
names. So changing the definition of a variable can instantly change the 
product data sheet for "Joe's Snake Oil" to one for "Rebecca's Magic Elixir" 
without having to search and replace for every location of that phrase.

Mike Wickham

Scripting pulling FM files from version control and creating PDFs

[Linda G. Gallagher]

Framers,

A client would like to be able to have a script that runs nightly that will
do the following:

- Pull FM files and books from their version control system (PVCS)

- Maybe set conditions (not sure if this is needed yet)

- Update the books

- Create PDFs of books and some stand-alone files

- Put the resulting PDFs in a specific place for the nightly build

It seems like fmbatch can do this, but I think it only works with FM for
Unix (they have FM for Win). 

Can any of the other FDK tools do this? (An in-house developer will likely
write the script.)

What about FrameScript?

What tool is best?

Thanks for your help!

~
Linda G. Gallagher
TechCom Plus, LLC
lindag at techcomplus dot com
www.techcomplus.com
303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144
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Find and Replace cross references

[Reng, Dr. Winfried]

Hi Deirdre,

> So, the original author has hand typed the name of the document into
> every.single.master.page (there's about 100 of them).  Unfortunately
> (s)he got the name wrong.

You now know that you can use variables and
how to insert them. However, why are there
100 master pages? Does each single body page
have its own master page? There must be something
wrong.

Best regards

Winfried

Re: cross reference vs variables

[Mike Wickham]

> In these documents that I am currently cleaning up, the title,
> customer name, document date, and document number are all variables on
> the title page, but then are cross-referenced throughout the chapters.
> It would make more sense that they are variables throughout?

Yes, having them all as variables would be better. You get the same result, 
but without the added overhead of making sure links don't get broken. 
Variables don't have links.

Mike Wickham 


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cross reference vs variables

[Art Campbell]

Yes, and yes.
However, they'd only be "variables on the title page" if it's a
stand-alone file.
If it is, then you should be able to import them into all the other
files so that all component files in the book have the same consistent
set of variables. And then you could do a series of
search-and-replaces to replace the cross-refs with variables.

Art

On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Deirdre Reagan
 wrote:
> In these documents that I am currently cleaning up, the title,
>  customer name, document date, and document number are all variables on
>  the title page, but then are cross-referenced throughout the chapters.
>   It would make more sense that they are variables throughout?
>
>  I don't think I am acutally referencing them, just using them over and
>  over again.  Did I get the terminology right?
>
>  Thanks!
>
>  Deirdre
>
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Re: cross reference vs variables

[Mike Wickham]

> Just to mix things up, the next question will appear in the form of a 
> statement.
>
> There is very little difference between cross-references and variables.
>
> Discuss.
>
> Deirdre

One advantage of variables is that you can't delete them accidentally. More 
than once, I have deleted a section of text and not noticed that it 
contained a cross-reference or cross-reference marker referenced from 
somewhere else. Deleteing either one breaks the cross-reference, leaving an 
unresolved cross-reference. But if I delete text that contains a variable, 
big deal. I only deleted the text, because the variable definition still 
exists to work everywhere else it has been, and ever will be, used.

There are lots of differences between cross-references and variables. Use 
cross-references to link to somewhere else you want the reader to go. "See 
figure x on page nnn" for example.

Use user variables for data you may want to change. For example, some create 
user variables for product names because the final name of the product may 
change before it goes into production-- like the way Microsoft called a 
product "Chicago" before it was eventually released as Windows 95-- or maybe 
the product is sold to others to be resold under different proprietary brand 
names. So changing the definition of a variable can instantly change the 
product data sheet for "Joe's Snake Oil" to one for "Rebecca's Magic Elixir" 
without having to search and replace for every location of that phrase.

Mike Wickham


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cross reference vs variables

[Rick Quatro]

False.

> Just to mix things up, the next question will appear in the form of a 
> statement.
>
> There is very little difference between cross-references and variables.
>
> Discuss.
>
> Deirdre
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Registering a new FrameMaker license

[Vivek Jain]

Without commenting on this issue, I can confirm that there is a special
upgrade policy for FrameMaker 8 (and Adobe Technical Communication
Suite) that allows for upgrade from any version of FrameMaker.  

Thanks and regards
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Group Product Manager, Adobe Systems
Adobe Technical Communication Suite, FrameMaker and  RoboHelp

cross reference vs variables

[Fred Ridder]

Deirdre Reagan wrote:> Just to mix things up, the next question will appear in 
the form of a statement.
> 
> There is very little difference between cross-references and variables.
> 
> Discuss.


Disagree almost completely. IMO, about the only thing they have in 
common is that they are methods of inserting content into a 
FrameMaker document by reference.

Cross-references are used to retrieve some combination of attributes 
(e.g. page location, paragraph autonumbering) and content of a 
specific target paragraph. You can build cross-reference formats that
specify different attributes and include various bits of static text and
punctuation, and you can globally redefine these formats to repurpose 
the same files for use in different deliverables (e.g. including the page
number in printed or PDF outputs but omitting it in HTML deliverable).
Cross-references always point to a specific paragraph, which makes
them less useful ifd you are using some of the same component files
in multiple books. 

User variables, on the other hand, retrieve a fixed text string of up
to 255 characters. Period. No page number. No autonumbering. No
ability to build different variations of the content. Just a text string.
Eminently useful for things like product names or model numbers, 
and document titles and reference numbers. Variable definitions 
are stored locally in each file, but are easily updated across a book
by importing them as format properties from one file (e.g., a template),
which works well when you are sharing some chapters among multiple
books.

Cross-references are automatically refreshed every time you open 
a file. This is overkill for relatively static content like document titles
and product names. 

Cross-references get turned into hyperlinks when you publish a 
document to PDF (and usually to HTML, as well). To me, this is 
worse than overkill if you use x-refs for book titles because I think 
it's a major annoyance to have each and every instance of the 
title be a live hyperlink that takes you to the title page of the book.
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cross reference vs variables

[Deirdre Reagan]

Thank you all!  This helps so much in learning how the program works
and how the documents work!  I'm looking like a hero to my co-workers.
(Ok, not really.)

Thanks!

Deirdre

On 2/20/08, Syed.Hosain at aeris.net  wrote:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campbell at gmail.com]
> >
> > If it is, then you should be able to import them into all the other
> > files so that all component files in the book have the same consistent
> > set of variables. And then you could do a series of
> > search-and-replaces to replace the cross-refs with variables.
>
> And, yes, this is *exactly* where using BookVars from Leximation makes
> so much sense to me - "book level" variables! :)
>
> Z
>

cross reference vs variables

[Deirdre Reagan]

In these documents that I am currently cleaning up, the title,
customer name, document date, and document number are all variables on
the title page, but then are cross-referenced throughout the chapters.
 It would make more sense that they are variables throughout?

I don't think I am acutally referencing them, just using them over and
over again.  Did I get the terminology right?

Thanks!

Deirdre

cross reference vs variables

[Deirdre Reagan]

Thank you Fred -- I'm pretty sure the help pages and the user guide
said the same thing, but I haven't been able to make heads or tails of
them.  Your explanation is much clearer.

Perhaps you should offer your services to the Adobe Company? ;)

Deirdre

On 2/20/08, Fred Ridder  wrote:
>
> Deirdre Reagan wrote:
>
> > Just to mix things up, the next question will appear in the form of a
> statement.
> >
> > There is very little difference between cross-references and variables.
> >
> > Discuss.
>
>
> Disagree almost completely. IMO, about the only thing they have in
> common is that they are methods of inserting content into a
> FrameMaker document by reference.
>
> Cross-references are used to retrieve some combination of attributes
> (e.g. page location, paragraph autonumbering) and content of a
> specific target paragraph. You can build cross-reference formats that
> specify different attributes and include various bits of static text and
> punctuation, and you can globally redefine these formats to repurpose
> the same files for use in different deliverables (e.g. including the page
> number in printed or PDF outputs but omitting it in HTML deliverable).
> Cross-references always point to a specific paragraph, which makes
> them less useful ifd you are using some of the same component files
> in multiple books.
>
> User variables, on the other hand, retrieve a fixed text string of up
> to 255 characters. Period. No page number. No autonumbering. No
> ability to build different variations of the content. Just a text string.
> Eminently useful for things like product names or model numbers,
> and document titles and reference numbers. Variable definitions
> are stored locally in each file, but are easily updated across a book
> by importing them as format properties from one file (e.g., a template),
> which works well when you are sharing some chapters among multiple
> books.
>
> Cross-references are automatically refreshed every time you open
> a file. This is overkill for relatively static content like document titles
> and product names.
>
> Cross-references get turned into hyperlinks when you publish a
> document to PDF (and usually to HTML, as well). To me, this is
> worse than overkill if you use x-refs for book titles because I think
> it's a major annoyance to have each and every instance of the
> title be a live hyperlink that takes you to the title page of the book.
>
> 
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cross reference vs variables

[Kelly McDaniel]

Precisely!

Cross-references are to variables as crayfish are to lightning.




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> bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Deirdre Reagan
> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 2:17 PM
> To: Frame Users
> Subject: cross reference vs variables
> 
> Just to mix things up, the next question will appear in the form of a
> statement.
> 
> There is very little difference between cross-references and
variables.
> 
> Discuss.
> 
> Deirdre
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cross reference vs variables

[Deirdre Reagan]

Just to mix things up, the next question will appear in the form of a statement.

There is very little difference between cross-references and variables.

Discuss.

Deirdre

RE: cross reference vs variables

[Syed.Hosain]

By the way ... just to "plug"  the BookVars plugin further ...

For a simple example (this is a complete file), here is the content of
the text file first generated automatically by BookVars (and edited from
then on by me):

[General]
AltBookVarsFile=
DelVarCode=
RenVarChar=
LogFile=GSM Mobile Device Management-BookVars-log.txt
LogType=1
; WARNING: Changing EditorType may corrupt high-ascii characters!
EditorType=0

[Groups]
Count=1
1=RevGroup

[RevGroup]
; User Variables
Revision Date=2007-08-14
Revision Number=1.1
Document Name=GSM Mobile Device Management System Specification
Company Name=Aeris Communications, Inc.

As you can see above, I can then use the User Variables in *all* the
documents inside the book - *just* like the scenario you asked about,
Deirdre! :) The BookVars plugin allows me to read the user variable
group into each and every document/file in the book.

A more complex example (with many lines left out here to simplify this
e-mail). In this example, I use two separate groups of User Variables
(called RevGroup and UserGroup) and can choose to *separately* read each
group into the documents/files in the book.

The first version of this text file was automatically generated from
BookVars, and all subsequent edits have been by me (using the built-in
text editor in the plugin). This is a "work in progress" ... hence the
[very] unusual Revision Date and [far less] unusual Revision Number! :)
Our internal review drafts get the "a", "b", etc., after the version
number, till the document is released formally. In this example, it
would become 2.2 for the next customer release - I just edit this file,
re-run the plugin and re-read the variables and voila! ... all
references to the version number and date are updated cleanly and
correctly!

By the way, the use of the User Variables shown in "UserGroup" (boy, was
that a mouthful!) is to make sure that I *always* get the correct
numerical value in all locations in the documents/files in the book -
this is an API spec, and it would be *very* bad for the code samples in
the API doc to have the wrong value for that variable. 

[General]
AltBookVarsFile=
DelVarCode=
RenVarChar=
LogFile=Aeris System Interface-BookVars-log.txt
LogType=1
; WARNING: Changing EditorType may corrupt high-ascii characters!
EditorType=0

[Groups]
Count=2
1=RevGroup
2=UserGroup

[RevGroup]
; User Variables
Revision Date=2007-99-99
Revision Number=2.1a
Document Name=Aeris System Interface Technical Description
Company Name=Aeris Communications, Inc.

[UserGroup]
; User Variables
PASSWORD=200
PASSWORD_ACK=201
PASSWORD_REJECT=202
...
... <*Lots* of lines deleted here for brevity>
...
SMSRES_ORIG_ANSI_ACK=421
SMSRES_ORIG_GSM=422
SMSRES_ORIG_GSM_ACK=423

Z

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Syed Zaeem Hosain ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 1:42 PM
> To: Art Campbell; Deirdre Reagan
> Cc: Fred Ridder; Frame Users
> Subject: RE: cross reference vs variables
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Art Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > If it is, then you should be able to import them into all the other
> > files so that all component files in the book have the same
consistent
> > set of variables. And then you could do a series of
> > search-and-replaces to replace the cross-refs with variables.
> 
> And, yes, this is *exactly* where using BookVars from Leximation makes
> so much sense to me - "book level" variables! :)
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cross reference vs variables

[syed.hos...@aeris.net]

By the way ... just to "plug"  the BookVars plugin further ...

For a simple example (this is a complete file), here is the content of
the text file first generated automatically by BookVars (and edited from
then on by me):

[General]
AltBookVarsFile=
DelVarCode=
RenVarChar=
LogFile=GSM Mobile Device Management-BookVars-log.txt
LogType=1
; WARNING: Changing EditorType may corrupt high-ascii characters!
EditorType=0

[Groups]
Count=1
1=RevGroup

[RevGroup]
; User Variables
Revision Date=2007-08-14
Revision Number=1.1
Document Name=GSM Mobile Device Management System Specification
Company Name=Aeris Communications, Inc.

As you can see above, I can then use the User Variables in *all* the
documents inside the book - *just* like the scenario you asked about,
Deirdre! :) The BookVars plugin allows me to read the user variable
group into each and every document/file in the book.

A more complex example (with many lines left out here to simplify this
e-mail). In this example, I use two separate groups of User Variables
(called RevGroup and UserGroup) and can choose to *separately* read each
group into the documents/files in the book.

The first version of this text file was automatically generated from
BookVars, and all subsequent edits have been by me (using the built-in
text editor in the plugin). This is a "work in progress" ... hence the
[very] unusual Revision Date and [far less] unusual Revision Number! :)
Our internal review drafts get the "a", "b", etc., after the version
number, till the document is released formally. In this example, it
would become 2.2 for the next customer release - I just edit this file,
re-run the plugin and re-read the variables and voila! ... all
references to the version number and date are updated cleanly and
correctly!

By the way, the use of the User Variables shown in "UserGroup" (boy, was
that a mouthful!) is to make sure that I *always* get the correct
numerical value in all locations in the documents/files in the book -
this is an API spec, and it would be *very* bad for the code samples in
the API doc to have the wrong value for that variable. 

[General]
AltBookVarsFile=
DelVarCode=
RenVarChar=
LogFile=Aeris System Interface-BookVars-log.txt
LogType=1
; WARNING: Changing EditorType may corrupt high-ascii characters!
EditorType=0

[Groups]
Count=2
1=RevGroup
2=UserGroup

[RevGroup]
; User Variables
Revision Date=2007-99-99
Revision Number=2.1a
Document Name=Aeris System Interface Technical Description
Company Name=Aeris Communications, Inc.

[UserGroup]
; User Variables
PASSWORD=200
PASSWORD_ACK=201
PASSWORD_REJECT=202
...
... <*Lots* of lines deleted here for brevity>
...
SMSRES_ORIG_ANSI_ACK=421
SMSRES_ORIG_GSM=422
SMSRES_ORIG_GSM_ACK=423

Z

> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
> Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net)
> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 1:42 PM
> To: Art Campbell; Deirdre Reagan
> Cc: Fred Ridder; Frame Users
> Subject: RE: cross reference vs variables
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campbell at gmail.com]
> >
> > If it is, then you should be able to import them into all the other
> > files so that all component files in the book have the same
consistent
> > set of variables. And then you could do a series of
> > search-and-replaces to replace the cross-refs with variables.
> 
> And, yes, this is *exactly* where using BookVars from Leximation makes
> so much sense to me - "book level" variables! :)

Re: cross reference vs variables

[Deirdre Reagan]

Thank you all!  This helps so much in learning how the program works
and how the documents work!  I'm looking like a hero to my co-workers.
(Ok, not really.)

Thanks!

Deirdre

On 2/20/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Art Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > If it is, then you should be able to import them into all the other
> > files so that all component files in the book have the same consistent
> > set of variables. And then you could do a series of
> > search-and-replaces to replace the cross-refs with variables.
>
> And, yes, this is *exactly* where using BookVars from Leximation makes
> so much sense to me - "book level" variables! :)
>
> Z
>
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RE: cross reference vs variables

[Owen, Clint]

Deidra,

There are at least two ways to set it up that will accomplish the same
thing.

1. Define the variables you need in the Title Chapter, then import them
into all of the other chapters. Insert the variables themselves wherever
you need them. When a change is needed, change the variables in the
Title chapter and import them into the rest of the chapters again.

2. Define the variables in the Title chapter as before. Insert each one
at least once in a paragraph by itself in the Title chapter, even on a
master page that you never use. In the paragraph with each variable,
insert a cross-reference marker. In each place you need the text
cross-reference back to the appropriate marker. If you change one of the
variable definitions, all the other instances will update when the book
is updated.


Clint Owen 
Technical Publications
Crane Aerospace & Electronics 
425-743-8674


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Cc: Fred Ridder; Frame Users
Subject: Re: cross reference vs variables

In these documents that I am currently cleaning up, the title, customer
name, document date, and document number are all variables on the title
page, but then are cross-referenced throughout the chapters.
 It would make more sense that they are variables throughout?

I don't think I am acutally referencing them, just using them over and
over again.  Did I get the terminology right?

Thanks!

Deirdre
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cross reference vs variables

[Owen, Clint]

Deidra,

There are at least two ways to set it up that will accomplish the same
thing.

1. Define the variables you need in the Title Chapter, then import them
into all of the other chapters. Insert the variables themselves wherever
you need them. When a change is needed, change the variables in the
Title chapter and import them into the rest of the chapters again.

2. Define the variables in the Title chapter as before. Insert each one
at least once in a paragraph by itself in the Title chapter, even on a
master page that you never use. In the paragraph with each variable,
insert a cross-reference marker. In each place you need the text
cross-reference back to the appropriate marker. If you change one of the
variable definitions, all the other instances will update when the book
is updated.


Clint Owen 
Technical Publications
Crane Aerospace & Electronics 
425-743-8674


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Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 1:34 PM
To: Syed.Hosain at aeris.net
Cc: Fred Ridder; Frame Users
Subject: Re: cross reference vs variables

In these documents that I am currently cleaning up, the title, customer
name, document date, and document number are all variables on the title
page, but then are cross-referenced throughout the chapters.
 It would make more sense that they are variables throughout?

I don't think I am acutally referencing them, just using them over and
over again.  Did I get the terminology right?

Thanks!

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RE: cross reference vs variables

[Syed.Hosain]

> -Original Message-
> From: Art Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> If it is, then you should be able to import them into all the other
> files so that all component files in the book have the same consistent
> set of variables. And then you could do a series of
> search-and-replaces to replace the cross-refs with variables.

And, yes, this is *exactly* where using BookVars from Leximation makes
so much sense to me - "book level" variables! :)

Z
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cross reference vs variables

[syed.hos...@aeris.net]

> -Original Message-
> From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campbell at gmail.com]
> 
> If it is, then you should be able to import them into all the other
> files so that all component files in the book have the same consistent
> set of variables. And then you could do a series of
> search-and-replaces to replace the cross-refs with variables.

And, yes, this is *exactly* where using BookVars from Leximation makes
so much sense to me - "book level" variables! :)

Z

Re: cross reference vs variables

[Art Campbell]

Yes, and yes.
However, they'd only be "variables on the title page" if it's a
stand-alone file.
If it is, then you should be able to import them into all the other
files so that all component files in the book have the same consistent
set of variables. And then you could do a series of
search-and-replaces to replace the cross-refs with variables.

Art

On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Deirdre Reagan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In these documents that I am currently cleaning up, the title,
>  customer name, document date, and document number are all variables on
>  the title page, but then are cross-referenced throughout the chapters.
>   It would make more sense that they are variables throughout?
>
>  I don't think I am acutally referencing them, just using them over and
>  over again.  Did I get the terminology right?
>
>  Thanks!
>
>  Deirdre
>
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Re: cross reference vs variables

[Deirdre Reagan]

In these documents that I am currently cleaning up, the title,
customer name, document date, and document number are all variables on
the title page, but then are cross-referenced throughout the chapters.
 It would make more sense that they are variables throughout?

I don't think I am acutally referencing them, just using them over and
over again.  Did I get the terminology right?

Thanks!

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RE: cross reference vs variables

[Syed.Hosain]

I agree entirely with your observations, Fred! They are different and needed 
for different purposes.

I use cross-references for paragraph and other document information that I want 
to reference elsewhere in the document or book. Like table titles for example.

I use variables to hold commonly used text that I can insert in the document to 
ensure consistent usage. If the text changes, all the variable uses are 
automatically changed.

Z

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Fred Ridder
> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 12:54 PM
> To: Deirdre Reagan; Frame Users
> Subject: RE: cross reference vs variables
> 
> 
> Deirdre Reagan wrote:> Just to mix things up, the next question will appear 
> in the form of a
> statement.
> >
> > There is very little difference between cross-references and variables.
> >
> > Discuss.
> 
> 
> Disagree almost completely. IMO, about the only thing they have in
> common is that they are methods of inserting content into a
> FrameMaker document by reference.
> 
> Cross-references are used to retrieve some combination of attributes
> (e.g. page location, paragraph autonumbering) and content of a
> specific target paragraph. You can build cross-reference formats that
> specify different attributes and include various bits of static text and
> punctuation, and you can globally redefine these formats to repurpose
> the same files for use in different deliverables (e.g. including the page
> number in printed or PDF outputs but omitting it in HTML deliverable).
> Cross-references always point to a specific paragraph, which makes
> them less useful ifd you are using some of the same component files
> in multiple books.
> 
> User variables, on the other hand, retrieve a fixed text string of up
> to 255 characters. Period. No page number. No autonumbering. No
> ability to build different variations of the content. Just a text string.
> Eminently useful for things like product names or model numbers,
> and document titles and reference numbers. Variable definitions
> are stored locally in each file, but are easily updated across a book
> by importing them as format properties from one file (e.g., a template),
> which works well when you are sharing some chapters among multiple
> books.
> 
> Cross-references are automatically refreshed every time you open
> a file. This is overkill for relatively static content like document titles
> and product names.
> 
> Cross-references get turned into hyperlinks when you publish a
> document to PDF (and usually to HTML, as well). To me, this is
> worse than overkill if you use x-refs for book titles because I think
> it's a major annoyance to have each and every instance of the
> title be a live hyperlink that takes you to the title page of the book.
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cross reference vs variables

[syed.hos...@aeris.net]

I agree entirely with your observations, Fred! They are different and needed 
for different purposes.

I use cross-references for paragraph and other document information that I want 
to reference elsewhere in the document or book. Like table titles for example.

I use variables to hold commonly used text that I can insert in the document to 
ensure consistent usage. If the text changes, all the variable uses are 
automatically changed.

Z

> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at 
> lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
> Fred Ridder
> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 12:54 PM
> To: Deirdre Reagan; Frame Users
> Subject: RE: cross reference vs variables
> 
> 
> Deirdre Reagan wrote:> Just to mix things up, the next question will appear 
> in the form of a
> statement.
> >
> > There is very little difference between cross-references and variables.
> >
> > Discuss.
> 
> 
> Disagree almost completely. IMO, about the only thing they have in
> common is that they are methods of inserting content into a
> FrameMaker document by reference.
> 
> Cross-references are used to retrieve some combination of attributes
> (e.g. page location, paragraph autonumbering) and content of a
> specific target paragraph. You can build cross-reference formats that
> specify different attributes and include various bits of static text and
> punctuation, and you can globally redefine these formats to repurpose
> the same files for use in different deliverables (e.g. including the page
> number in printed or PDF outputs but omitting it in HTML deliverable).
> Cross-references always point to a specific paragraph, which makes
> them less useful ifd you are using some of the same component files
> in multiple books.
> 
> User variables, on the other hand, retrieve a fixed text string of up
> to 255 characters. Period. No page number. No autonumbering. No
> ability to build different variations of the content. Just a text string.
> Eminently useful for things like product names or model numbers,
> and document titles and reference numbers. Variable definitions
> are stored locally in each file, but are easily updated across a book
> by importing them as format properties from one file (e.g., a template),
> which works well when you are sharing some chapters among multiple
> books.
> 
> Cross-references are automatically refreshed every time you open
> a file. This is overkill for relatively static content like document titles
> and product names.
> 
> Cross-references get turned into hyperlinks when you publish a
> document to PDF (and usually to HTML, as well). To me, this is
> worse than overkill if you use x-refs for book titles because I think
> it's a major annoyance to have each and every instance of the
> title be a live hyperlink that takes you to the title page of the book.
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Re: cross reference vs variables

[Deirdre Reagan]

Thank you Fred -- I'm pretty sure the help pages and the user guide
said the same thing, but I haven't been able to make heads or tails of
them.  Your explanation is much clearer.

Perhaps you should offer your services to the Adobe Company? ;)

Deirdre

On 2/20/08, Fred Ridder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Deirdre Reagan wrote:
>
> > Just to mix things up, the next question will appear in the form of a
> statement.
> >
> > There is very little difference between cross-references and variables.
> >
> > Discuss.
>
>
> Disagree almost completely. IMO, about the only thing they have in
> common is that they are methods of inserting content into a
> FrameMaker document by reference.
>
> Cross-references are used to retrieve some combination of attributes
> (e.g. page location, paragraph autonumbering) and content of a
> specific target paragraph. You can build cross-reference formats that
> specify different attributes and include various bits of static text and
> punctuation, and you can globally redefine these formats to repurpose
> the same files for use in different deliverables (e.g. including the page
> number in printed or PDF outputs but omitting it in HTML deliverable).
> Cross-references always point to a specific paragraph, which makes
> them less useful ifd you are using some of the same component files
> in multiple books.
>
> User variables, on the other hand, retrieve a fixed text string of up
> to 255 characters. Period. No page number. No autonumbering. No
> ability to build different variations of the content. Just a text string.
> Eminently useful for things like product names or model numbers,
> and document titles and reference numbers. Variable definitions
> are stored locally in each file, but are easily updated across a book
> by importing them as format properties from one file (e.g., a template),
> which works well when you are sharing some chapters among multiple
> books.
>
> Cross-references are automatically refreshed every time you open
> a file. This is overkill for relatively static content like document titles
> and product names.
>
> Cross-references get turned into hyperlinks when you publish a
> document to PDF (and usually to HTML, as well). To me, this is
> worse than overkill if you use x-refs for book titles because I think
> it's a major annoyance to have each and every instance of the
> title be a live hyperlink that takes you to the title page of the book.
>
> 
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REVIEW: PDFEscape-Free, Easy, Web-Based PDF Editing [AppScout]

[Stuart Rogers]

Grant Hogarth wrote:

> AppScout: PDFEscape-Free, Easy, Web-Based PDF Editing
>  1-9-269> 

Looks like a very useful utility; thank you for posting, Grant.

And may I once again promote the use of TinyURL...

http://tinyurl.com/2wk8ja


(Firefox users can add the TinyURL extension to get a menu and context 
menu item to generate tiny urls.)


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If it makes things work more easily, why isn't it called lubrican?

Re: cross reference vs variables

[Rick Quatro]

False.

> Just to mix things up, the next question will appear in the form of a 
> statement.
>
> There is very little difference between cross-references and variables.
>
> Discuss.
>
> Deirdre
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FrameMaker Spell Checking

[Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr.]

Good afternoon fellow Framers

A colleague of mine posed a question on FrameMaker spell-checking:

Anything out there that can supplement the current Frame environment for
spell-checking?  
Or better yet, can we expect an improvement in this area as Frame isn't
very robust.

Just checking in and wondering

>From this tiny town in Western Pennsylvania..

Eduardo



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Technical Writer and Consultant
CWO3, U. S. Coast Guard (Retired)

"It's a lot better having someone in your corner encouraging you,
...than to have someone in your corner pushing you out to the center of
the ring."
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RE: cross reference vs variables

[Fred Ridder]

Deirdre Reagan wrote:> Just to mix things up, the next question will appear in 
the form of a statement.
> 
> There is very little difference between cross-references and variables.
> 
> Discuss.
 
 
Disagree almost completely. IMO, about the only thing they have in 
common is that they are methods of inserting content into a 
FrameMaker document by reference.
 
Cross-references are used to retrieve some combination of attributes 
(e.g. page location, paragraph autonumbering) and content of a 
specific target paragraph. You can build cross-reference formats that
specify different attributes and include various bits of static text and
punctuation, and you can globally redefine these formats to repurpose 
the same files for use in different deliverables (e.g. including the page
number in printed or PDF outputs but omitting it in HTML deliverable).
Cross-references always point to a specific paragraph, which makes
them less useful ifd you are using some of the same component files
in multiple books. 
 
User variables, on the other hand, retrieve a fixed text string of up
to 255 characters. Period. No page number. No autonumbering. No
ability to build different variations of the content. Just a text string.
Eminently useful for things like product names or model numbers, 
and document titles and reference numbers. Variable definitions 
are stored locally in each file, but are easily updated across a book
by importing them as format properties from one file (e.g., a template),
which works well when you are sharing some chapters among multiple
books.
 
Cross-references are automatically refreshed every time you open 
a file. This is overkill for relatively static content like document titles
and product names. 
 
Cross-references get turned into hyperlinks when you publish a 
document to PDF (and usually to HTML, as well). To me, this is 
worse than overkill if you use x-refs for book titles because I think 
it's a major annoyance to have each and every instance of the 
title be a live hyperlink that takes you to the title page of the book.
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Page count in a large book

[Stuart Rogers]

Harold Winberg wrote:
> Hello Framers
> 
>  
> 
> Does anyone know a simple way to just count the number of pages in a
> large book (or any book)?
> 
>  
> 
> All we really need at this point is to count the number of pages for
> organizational purposes.
> 
>  

Open the book file, set the first file to start numbering at 1, set all 
the others to continue from previous, then select the last file and look 
at the status bar to see what its final page number is.  Close the book 
file WITHOUT SAVING.  (Or to be super-sure you won't mess up the real 
page numbering, create a temporary book file containing all the document 
files and number the pages consecutively as described.)


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help needed with cleanfm batch file

[Bruce Foster]

Dave,

I don't have the batch file, but you can delete unwanted files as follows:

1. Open a command prompt by choosing Start > Run, type cmd.exe, and click
OK.
2. In the command prompt, go to the directory you want to clean up using
the cd command.
3. To delete backup  and lock files, execute the commands:

 del *.backup.*
 del *.lck

You can put these in a batch file and run that, too.

Regards,
Bruce



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Hi Folks

A month or 3 ago someone posted a batch file to clean up Frame's backup 
and lock files from a folder.  I kept a copy of the batch file code, but 
now that I want to use it, I can't find the instructions on how to use 
it.  My manual has expanded and now it is becoming tedious to manually 
delete all those .backup files.

Any help would be appreciated.

Cheers

Dave<

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RE: cross reference vs variables

[Kelly McDaniel]

Precisely!

Cross-references are to variables as crayfish are to lightning.




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> Subject: cross reference vs variables
> 
> Just to mix things up, the next question will appear in the form of a
> statement.
> 
> There is very little difference between cross-references and
variables.
> 
> Discuss.
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help needed with cleanfm batch file

[Bruce Foster]

Dave,

I don't have the batch file, but you can delete unwanted files as follows:

1. Open a command prompt by choosing Start > Run, type cmd.exe, and click
OK.
2. In the command prompt, go to the directory you want to clean up using
the cd command.
3. To delete backup  and lock files, execute the commands:

 del *.backup.*
 del *.lck

You can put these in a batch file and run that, too.

Regards,
Bruce



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Hi Folks

A month or 3 ago someone posted a batch file to clean up Frame's backup 
and lock files from a folder.  I kept a copy of the batch file code, but 
now that I want to use it, I can't find the instructions on how to use 
it.  My manual has expanded and now it is becoming tedious to manually 
delete all those .backup files.

Any help would be appreciated.

Cheers

Dave<

cross reference vs variables

[Deirdre Reagan]

Just to mix things up, the next question will appear in the form of a statement.

There is very little difference between cross-references and variables.

Discuss.

Deirdre
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Tools for converting FM docs to WikiMedia?

[Kelly McDaniel]

http://search.cpan.org/dist/HTML-WikiConverter/

> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-
> bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of William Gaffga
> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 11:03 AM
> To: framers at frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: Tools for converting FM docs to WikiMedia?
> 
> There isn't really a way to go FM -> Wiki, i.e. there are no tools to
do
> so easily. You could dump out HTML from FM and just put them in the
wiki
> but that won't get you the wiki-goodness. We were able to largely
> automate the process for our first foray but it was simply an ideal
> candidate because the original content was largely uniform and the end
> product wiki was template based. I'll summarize below.
> 
> We had a book that doc'd commands (roughly 15000 of them) for a
> scripting language we use internally for our software. These commands
> were in a tabular format. There were of course some paragraphs that
came
> before the commands in a section, describing their purpose or use, and
> there were several chapters that were simply explanatory text. Nothing
> complex.
> 
> We dumped this stuff out to text files. Wrote a PERL script to
identify
> the various components and modify the text files. We then wrote
another
> PERL script to convert that data to include the wiki template
> information. We then populated the wiki and made many manual changes.
In
> total, the project took about 4 weeks including planning, which
included
> deciding which wiki format we needed.
> 
> So, this is possible but that strictly depends on your content, and it
> will require extra knowledge on your end.
> 
> Hope that helps.
> 
> Will.
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Find and Replace cross references

[Art Campbell]

Ah, the Daily Deirdre is like a ray of sunshine in our dark cubes

Yes, you can use a cross-ref, but a user variable would be better and
more flexible. And you can use it to consistently control the name of
the document everywhere else too -- title page, part number, etc.

Art

On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Deirdre Reagan
 wrote:
> Good morning fellow Framemaker Users!
>
>  You didn't think a day would pass without my popping my head in with
>  another question, did you?
>
>  I'm on XP using Framemaker 8.0., working with documents someone else wrote.
>
>  So, the original author has hand typed the name of the document into
>  every.single.master.page (there's about 100 of them).  Unfortunately
>  (s)he got the name wrong.
>
>  I can do a find and replace for the name of the document, but would it
>  be possible to replace the hand-typed text with a cross-reference?
>
>  Thanks so much!
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Find and Replace cross references

[Fred Ridder]

Use a user variable. That's what they're designed for.> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 
10:02:15 -0600> From: deirdre.reagan at gmail.com> To: framers at 
lists.frameusers.com> Subject: Find and Replace cross references> > Good 
morning fellow Framemaker Users!> > You didn't think a day would pass without 
my popping my head in with> another question, did you?> > I'm on XP using 
Framemaker 8.0., working with documents someone else wrote.> > So, the original 
author has hand typed the name of the document into> every.single.master.page 
(there's about 100 of them). Unfortunately> (s)he got the name wrong.> > I can 
do a find and replace for the name of the document, but would it> be possible 
to replace the hand-typed text with a cross-reference?> > Thanks so much!> 
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Page count in a large book

[Harold Winberg]

Hello Framers



Does anyone know a simple way to just count the number of pages in a
large book (or any book)?



All we really need at this point is to count the number of pages for
organizational purposes.



Thanks



Les Winberg

Find and Replace cross references

[Kelly McDaniel]

She obviously responded to the wrong list.

> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-
> bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Deirdre Reagan
> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 10:44 AM
> To: Owen, Clint
> Cc: Frame Users
> Subject: Re: Find and Replace cross references
> 
>You people are really nice.
> 
> Deirdre
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Find and Replace cross references

[Deirdre Reagan]

Thank you Clint!

LOL about this:

> However, if all the files use the same master pages you can fix them in
> one file and then import the page layouts into all the other files.

That would be nice, wouldn't it!

I will get busy opening pages and let you all know whether or not
Victory is Mine!

Thanks for everyone's feedback!  You people are really nice.

Deirdre

Cross References:using text that is not that linked to

[Carrie Baker]

Thanks,
that was the sort of thing I hoped existed!

On 2/19/08, Combs, Richard  wrote:
> Carrie Baker wrote:
>
> > Can I create a cross reference to somewhere, when the text
> > that appears in the cross reference is something that I type
> > in, and not the text that appears in Heading 2 (i.e. will say
> > xy statistics, even though the header it jumps to is called
> > Displaying xy statistics)?
>
> Well, others have suggested workarounds/kludges to let you do it with
> xrefs. But the simpler solution is to use hyperlinks instead of xrefs.
> Here's how:
>
> 1) Open the Hypertext dialog (Special > Hypertext). It's non-modal and
> can stay open throughout the process.
>
> 2) Put your cursor in the "Displaying XY Statistics" Heading 2 (I
> recommend always putting the destination markers at the beginning of the
> destination pgfs, but that's up to you).
>
> 3) In the Hypertext dialog, set Command to Specify Named Destination.
> The word "newlink" appears in the box below. Add a unique, meaningful
> name for this destination, such as "xy," so that the box contains
> "newlink xy" (sans quotes). Then click New Hypertext Marker. FM puts a
> marker symbol ("T") at your cursor position.
>
> 4) Now go to where you want the list of screens. Enter the screen name
> "XY Statistics," highlight the text, and apply a character format that
> gives it your xref/hyperlink appearance (blue underlined, or whatever).
>
> 5) With "XY Statistics" still highlighted (or the cursor somewhere in
> it), go to the Hypertext dialog and set Command to Jump to Named
> Destination. The word "gotolink" appears in the box below. Add the name
> you gave the destination marker ("xy") so that the box contains
> "gotolink xy" (sans quotes). Click New Hypertext Marker.
>
> That's it. If the Validate check box was selected (the default), FM will
> inform you if it couldn't find the named destination (usually because
> you misremembered or mistyped the marker text you entered in step 3).
> Otherwise, you can test your new hyperlink by holding down the Ctrl and
> Alt keys while you click the link.
>
> Once you've done one, it'll take less time to do the next ten than it
> took to read this long-winded procedure. :-)
>
> HTH!
> Richard
>
>
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Find and Replace cross references

[Kelly McDaniel]

Every individual document (file) in FrameMaker has it's own Master page.


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> bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Reng, Dr. Winfried
> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 10:33 AM
> To: Frame Users
> Subject: RE: Find and Replace cross references
> 
> Hi Deirdre,
> 
> > So, the original author has hand typed the name of the document into
> > every.single.master.page (there's about 100 of them).  Unfortunately
> > (s)he got the name wrong.
> 
> You now know that you can use variables and
> how to insert them. However, why are there
> 100 master pages? Does each single body page
> have its own master page? There must be something
> wrong.
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Winfried
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Find and Replace cross references

[Deirdre Reagan]

Thank you all for your answers.  Four out of four peple think the user
variable is the way to go, so I'll try that.

However, can I do a find and replace or do I have to replace the text
with the user variable by hand?

And how do I do a find and replace for the master pages, anyway?  It
only worked for the body pages.

Thanks so much!

the little ray of sunshine,

Deirdre

Re: REVIEW: PDFEscape-Free, Easy, Web-Based PDF Editing [AppScout]

[Stuart Rogers]

Grant Hogarth wrote:

> AppScout: PDFEscape-Free, Easy, Web-Based PDF Editing
>  1-9-269> 

Looks like a very useful utility; thank you for posting, Grant.

And may I once again promote the use of TinyURL...

http://tinyurl.com/2wk8ja


(Firefox users can add the TinyURL extension to get a menu and context 
menu item to generate tiny urls.)


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Find and Replace cross references

[Deirdre Reagan]

Good morning fellow Framemaker Users!

You didn't think a day would pass without my popping my head in with
another question, did you?

I'm on XP using Framemaker 8.0., working with documents someone else wrote.

So, the original author has hand typed the name of the document into
every.single.master.page (there's about 100 of them).  Unfortunately
(s)he got the name wrong.

I can do a find and replace for the name of the document, but would it
be possible to replace the hand-typed text with a cross-reference?

Thanks so much!

help needed with cleanfm batch file

[Dave Reynolds]

Hi Folks

A month or 3 ago someone posted a batch file to clean up Frame's backup 
and lock files from a folder.  I kept a copy of the batch file code, but 
now that I want to use it, I can't find the instructions on how to use 
it.  My manual has expanded and now it is becoming tedious to manually 
delete all those .backup files.

Any help would be appreciated.

Cheers

Dave


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FrameMaker Spell Checking

[Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr.]

Good afternoon fellow Framers

A colleague of mine posed a question on FrameMaker spell-checking:

Anything out there that can supplement the current Frame environment for
spell-checking?  
Or better yet, can we expect an improvement in this area as Frame isn't
very robust.

Just checking in and wondering

>From this tiny town in Western Pennsylvania..

Eduardo



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Re: Page count in a large book

[Stuart Rogers]

Harold Winberg wrote:
> Hello Framers
> 
>  
> 
> Does anyone know a simple way to just count the number of pages in a
> large book (or any book)?
> 
>  
> 
> All we really need at this point is to count the number of pages for
> organizational purposes.
> 
>  

Open the book file, set the first file to start numbering at 1, set all 
the others to continue from previous, then select the last file and look 
at the status bar to see what its final page number is.  Close the book 
file WITHOUT SAVING.  (Or to be super-sure you won't mess up the real 
page numbering, create a temporary book file containing all the document 
files and number the pages consecutively as described.)


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RE: Tools for converting FM docs to WikiMedia?

[Kelly McDaniel]

http://search.cpan.org/dist/HTML-WikiConverter/

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:framers-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Gaffga
> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 11:03 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Tools for converting FM docs to WikiMedia?
> 
> There isn't really a way to go FM -> Wiki, i.e. there are no tools to
do
> so easily. You could dump out HTML from FM and just put them in the
wiki
> but that won't get you the wiki-goodness. We were able to largely
> automate the process for our first foray but it was simply an ideal
> candidate because the original content was largely uniform and the end
> product wiki was template based. I'll summarize below.
> 
> We had a book that doc'd commands (roughly 15000 of them) for a
> scripting language we use internally for our software. These commands
> were in a tabular format. There were of course some paragraphs that
came
> before the commands in a section, describing their purpose or use, and
> there were several chapters that were simply explanatory text. Nothing
> complex.
> 
> We dumped this stuff out to text files. Wrote a PERL script to
identify
> the various components and modify the text files. We then wrote
another
> PERL script to convert that data to include the wiki template
> information. We then populated the wiki and made many manual changes.
In
> total, the project took about 4 weeks including planning, which
included
> deciding which wiki format we needed.
> 
> So, this is possible but that strictly depends on your content, and it
> will require extra knowledge on your end.
> 
> Hope that helps.
> 
> Will.
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> Gibbs and Associates
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RE: Page count in a large book

[Owen, Clint]

 Generate a PDF file.


Clint Owen 
Technical Publications
Crane Aerospace & Electronics 
425-743-8674


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Hello Framers

 

Does anyone know a simple way to just count the number of pages in a
large book (or any book)?

 

All we really need at this point is to count the number of pages for
organizational purposes.

 

Thanks

 

Les Winberg

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Page count in a large book

[Owen, Clint]

 Generate a PDF file.


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Subject: Page count in a large book

Hello Framers



Does anyone know a simple way to just count the number of pages in a
large book (or any book)?



All we really need at this point is to count the number of pages for
organizational purposes.



Thanks



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RE: Find and Replace cross references

[Syed.Hosain]

Hi, all.

I have not put user variables into master pages, but (once you fix the
master pages anyway) ... 

... I *STRONGLY* and *HIGHLY* recommend using the BookVars plugin from
http://www.leximation.com/tools/ to maintain user variables -
*particularly* when a variable is used in multiple documents in a single
book. This is easily the most useful tool that I have added to
FrameMaker - the $35 cost has paid for itself easily in the time I have
saved over the last year or two (some of my documents have two to three
hundred user variable and, yes, there is a good reason for it :)!).

Unfortunately, I do not know for sure whether it will handle user
variables in Master Pages. But, give it a shot ... I believe that
Leximation has a free trial of the plugin available.

Z

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Owen, Clint
> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 8:27 AM
> To: Frame Users
> Subject: RE: Find and Replace cross references
> 
> You need to open the master page view for each separate file before
you
> can find and replace on the master pages. It's a pain in the neck.
> 
> However, if all the files use the same master pages you can fix them
in
> one file and then import the page layouts into all the other files.
> 
> Finally, after you insert the first cross reference or variable copy
it
> to the clipboard. When you use search and replace pick replace by
paste
> instead of insert text.
> 
> 
> Clint Owen
> Technical Publications
> Crane Aerospace & Electronics
> 425-743-8674
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Deirdre
> Reagan
> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 8:20 AM
> To: Frame Users
> Subject: Re: Find and Replace cross references
> 
> Thank you all for your answers.  Four out of four peple think the user
> variable is the way to go, so I'll try that.
> 
> However, can I do a find and replace or do I have to replace the text
> with the user variable by hand?
> 
> And how do I do a find and replace for the master pages, anyway?  It
> only worked for the body pages.
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Find and Replace cross references

[syed.hos...@aeris.net]

Hi, all.

I have not put user variables into master pages, but (once you fix the
master pages anyway) ... 

... I *STRONGLY* and *HIGHLY* recommend using the BookVars plugin from
http://www.leximation.com/tools/ to maintain user variables -
*particularly* when a variable is used in multiple documents in a single
book. This is easily the most useful tool that I have added to
FrameMaker - the $35 cost has paid for itself easily in the time I have
saved over the last year or two (some of my documents have two to three
hundred user variable and, yes, there is a good reason for it :)!).

Unfortunately, I do not know for sure whether it will handle user
variables in Master Pages. But, give it a shot ... I believe that
Leximation has a free trial of the plugin available.

Z

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[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
> Owen, Clint
> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 8:27 AM
> To: Frame Users
> Subject: RE: Find and Replace cross references
> 
> You need to open the master page view for each separate file before
you
> can find and replace on the master pages. It's a pain in the neck.
> 
> However, if all the files use the same master pages you can fix them
in
> one file and then import the page layouts into all the other files.
> 
> Finally, after you insert the first cross reference or variable copy
it
> to the clipboard. When you use search and replace pick replace by
paste
> instead of insert text.
> 
> 
> Clint Owen
> Technical Publications
> Crane Aerospace & Electronics
> 425-743-8674
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Deirdre
> Reagan
> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 8:20 AM
> To: Frame Users
> Subject: Re: Find and Replace cross references
> 
> Thank you all for your answers.  Four out of four peple think the user
> variable is the way to go, so I'll try that.
> 
> However, can I do a find and replace or do I have to replace the text
> with the user variable by hand?
> 
> And how do I do a find and replace for the master pages, anyway?  It
> only worked for the body pages.

Re: Tools for converting FM docs to WikiMedia?

[William Gaffga]

There isn't really a way to go FM -> Wiki, i.e. there are no tools to do 
so easily. You could dump out HTML from FM and just put them in the wiki 
but that won't get you the wiki-goodness. We were able to largely 
automate the process for our first foray but it was simply an ideal 
candidate because the original content was largely uniform and the end 
product wiki was template based. I'll summarize below.

We had a book that doc'd commands (roughly 15000 of them) for a 
scripting language we use internally for our software. These commands 
were in a tabular format. There were of course some paragraphs that came 
before the commands in a section, describing their purpose or use, and 
there were several chapters that were simply explanatory text. Nothing 
complex.

We dumped this stuff out to text files. Wrote a PERL script to identify 
the various components and modify the text files. We then wrote another 
PERL script to convert that data to include the wiki template 
information. We then populated the wiki and made many manual changes. In 
total, the project took about 4 weeks including planning, which included 
deciding which wiki format we needed.

So, this is possible but that strictly depends on your content, and it 
will require extra knowledge on your end.

Hope that helps.

Will.
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[William Gaffga]

There isn't really a way to go FM -> Wiki, i.e. there are no tools to do 
so easily. You could dump out HTML from FM and just put them in the wiki 
but that won't get you the wiki-goodness. We were able to largely 
automate the process for our first foray but it was simply an ideal 
candidate because the original content was largely uniform and the end 
product wiki was template based. I'll summarize below.

We had a book that doc'd commands (roughly 15000 of them) for a 
scripting language we use internally for our software. These commands 
were in a tabular format. There were of course some paragraphs that came 
before the commands in a section, describing their purpose or use, and 
there were several chapters that were simply explanatory text. Nothing 
complex.

We dumped this stuff out to text files. Wrote a PERL script to identify 
the various components and modify the text files. We then wrote another 
PERL script to convert that data to include the wiki template 
information. We then populated the wiki and made many manual changes. In 
total, the project took about 4 weeks including planning, which included 
deciding which wiki format we needed.

So, this is possible but that strictly depends on your content, and it 
will require extra knowledge on your end.

Hope that helps.

Will.
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Head Dude of the Docs
Gibbs and Associates
Moorpark, CA

Page count in a large book

[Harold Winberg]

Hello Framers

 

Does anyone know a simple way to just count the number of pages in a
large book (or any book)?

 

All we really need at this point is to count the number of pages for
organizational purposes.

 

Thanks

 

Les Winberg

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RE: Find and Replace cross references

[Kelly McDaniel]

She obviously responded to the wrong list.

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> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 10:44 AM
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> 
>You people are really nice.
> 
> Deirdre
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Re: Find and Replace cross references

[Deirdre Reagan]

Thank you Clint!

LOL about this:

> However, if all the files use the same master pages you can fix them in
> one file and then import the page layouts into all the other files.

That would be nice, wouldn't it!

I will get busy opening pages and let you all know whether or not
Victory is Mine!

Thanks for everyone's feedback!  You people are really nice.

Deirdre
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RE: Find and Replace cross references

[Kelly McDaniel]

Every individual document (file) in FrameMaker has it's own Master page.


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> 
> Hi Deirdre,
> 
> > So, the original author has hand typed the name of the document into
> > every.single.master.page (there's about 100 of them).  Unfortunately
> > (s)he got the name wrong.
> 
> You now know that you can use variables and
> how to insert them. However, why are there
> 100 master pages? Does each single body page
> have its own master page? There must be something
> wrong.
> 
> Best regards
> 
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RE: Find and Replace cross references

[Reng, Dr. Winfried]

Hi Deirdre,

> So, the original author has hand typed the name of the document into
> every.single.master.page (there's about 100 of them).  Unfortunately
> (s)he got the name wrong.

You now know that you can use variables and
how to insert them. However, why are there
100 master pages? Does each single body page
have its own master page? There must be something
wrong.

Best regards

Winfried
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RE: Find and Replace cross references

[Owen, Clint]

You need to open the master page view for each separate file before you
can find and replace on the master pages. It's a pain in the neck.

However, if all the files use the same master pages you can fix them in
one file and then import the page layouts into all the other files.

Finally, after you insert the first cross reference or variable copy it
to the clipboard. When you use search and replace pick replace by paste
instead of insert text. 


Clint Owen 
Technical Publications
Crane Aerospace & Electronics 
425-743-8674


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Reagan
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 8:20 AM
To: Frame Users
Subject: Re: Find and Replace cross references

Thank you all for your answers.  Four out of four peple think the user
variable is the way to go, so I'll try that.

However, can I do a find and replace or do I have to replace the text
with the user variable by hand?

And how do I do a find and replace for the master pages, anyway?  It
only worked for the body pages.

Thanks so much!

the little ray of sunshine,

Deirdre
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Find and Replace cross references

[Owen, Clint]

You need to open the master page view for each separate file before you
can find and replace on the master pages. It's a pain in the neck.

However, if all the files use the same master pages you can fix them in
one file and then import the page layouts into all the other files.

Finally, after you insert the first cross reference or variable copy it
to the clipboard. When you use search and replace pick replace by paste
instead of insert text. 


Clint Owen 
Technical Publications
Crane Aerospace & Electronics 
425-743-8674


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[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Deirdre
Reagan
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 8:20 AM
To: Frame Users
Subject: Re: Find and Replace cross references

Thank you all for your answers.  Four out of four peple think the user
variable is the way to go, so I'll try that.

However, can I do a find and replace or do I have to replace the text
with the user variable by hand?

And how do I do a find and replace for the master pages, anyway?  It
only worked for the body pages.

Thanks so much!

the little ray of sunshine,

Deirdre
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Re: Find and Replace cross references

[Deirdre Reagan]

Thank you all for your answers.  Four out of four peple think the user
variable is the way to go, so I'll try that.

However, can I do a find and replace or do I have to replace the text
with the user variable by hand?

And how do I do a find and replace for the master pages, anyway?  It
only worked for the body pages.

Thanks so much!

the little ray of sunshine,

Deirdre
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RE: Find and Replace cross references

[Owen, Clint]

Cross references work great for this. Just put a cross reference marker
at the first place you use the text, like on a title page, then cross
reference it everywhere you need it. You can also use a variable to
insert the text in the first location, to make it even easier. Change
the variable once and it is propagated throughout the document.


Clint Owen 
Technical Publications
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Subject: Find and Replace cross references

Good morning fellow Framemaker Users!

You didn't think a day would pass without my popping my head in with
another question, did you?

I'm on XP using Framemaker 8.0., working with documents someone else
wrote.

So, the original author has hand typed the name of the document into
every.single.master.page (there's about 100 of them).  Unfortunately
(s)he got the name wrong.

I can do a find and replace for the name of the document, but would it
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Find and Replace cross references

[Owen, Clint]

Cross references work great for this. Just put a cross reference marker
at the first place you use the text, like on a title page, then cross
reference it everywhere you need it. You can also use a variable to
insert the text in the first location, to make it even easier. Change
the variable once and it is propagated throughout the document.


Clint Owen 
Technical Publications
Crane Aerospace & Electronics 
425-743-8674


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[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Deirdre
Reagan
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 8:02 AM
To: Frame Users
Subject: Find and Replace cross references

Good morning fellow Framemaker Users!

You didn't think a day would pass without my popping my head in with
another question, did you?

I'm on XP using Framemaker 8.0., working with documents someone else
wrote.

So, the original author has hand typed the name of the document into
every.single.master.page (there's about 100 of them).  Unfortunately
(s)he got the name wrong.

I can do a find and replace for the name of the document, but would it
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Re: Find and Replace cross references

[Art Campbell]

Ah, the Daily Deirdre is like a ray of sunshine in our dark cubes

Yes, you can use a cross-ref, but a user variable would be better and
more flexible. And you can use it to consistently control the name of
the document everywhere else too -- title page, part number, etc.

Art

On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Deirdre Reagan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Good morning fellow Framemaker Users!
>
>  You didn't think a day would pass without my popping my head in with
>  another question, did you?
>
>  I'm on XP using Framemaker 8.0., working with documents someone else wrote.
>
>  So, the original author has hand typed the name of the document into
>  every.single.master.page (there's about 100 of them).  Unfortunately
>  (s)he got the name wrong.
>
>  I can do a find and replace for the name of the document, but would it
>  be possible to replace the hand-typed text with a cross-reference?
>
>  Thanks so much!
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RE: Find and Replace cross references

[Fred Ridder]

Use a user variable. That's what they're designed for.> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 
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Subject: Find and Replace cross references> > Good morning fellow Framemaker 
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name of the document into> every.single.master.page (there's about 100 of 
them). Unfortunately> (s)he got the name wrong.> > I can do a find and replace 
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Find and Replace cross references

[Deirdre Reagan]

Good morning fellow Framemaker Users!

You didn't think a day would pass without my popping my head in with
another question, did you?

I'm on XP using Framemaker 8.0., working with documents someone else wrote.

So, the original author has hand typed the name of the document into
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I can do a find and replace for the name of the document, but would it
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RE: Registering a new FrameMaker license

[Vivek Jain]

Without commenting on this issue, I can confirm that there is a special
upgrade policy for FrameMaker 8 (and Adobe Technical Communication
Suite) that allows for upgrade from any version of FrameMaker.  
 
Thanks and regards
Vivek Jain
 
Group Product Manager, Adobe Systems
Adobe Technical Communication Suite, FrameMaker and  RoboHelp
 
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Re: Cross References:using text that is not that linked to

[Carrie Baker]

Thanks,
that was the sort of thing I hoped existed!

On 2/19/08, Combs, Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Carrie Baker wrote:
>
> > Can I create a cross reference to somewhere, when the text
> > that appears in the cross reference is something that I type
> > in, and not the text that appears in Heading 2 (i.e. will say
> > xy statistics, even though the header it jumps to is called
> > Displaying xy statistics)?
>
> Well, others have suggested workarounds/kludges to let you do it with
> xrefs. But the simpler solution is to use hyperlinks instead of xrefs.
> Here's how:
>
> 1) Open the Hypertext dialog (Special > Hypertext). It's non-modal and
> can stay open throughout the process.
>
> 2) Put your cursor in the "Displaying XY Statistics" Heading 2 (I
> recommend always putting the destination markers at the beginning of the
> destination pgfs, but that's up to you).
>
> 3) In the Hypertext dialog, set Command to Specify Named Destination.
> The word "newlink" appears in the box below. Add a unique, meaningful
> name for this destination, such as "xy," so that the box contains
> "newlink xy" (sans quotes). Then click New Hypertext Marker. FM puts a
> marker symbol ("T") at your cursor position.
>
> 4) Now go to where you want the list of screens. Enter the screen name
> "XY Statistics," highlight the text, and apply a character format that
> gives it your xref/hyperlink appearance (blue underlined, or whatever).
>
> 5) With "XY Statistics" still highlighted (or the cursor somewhere in
> it), go to the Hypertext dialog and set Command to Jump to Named
> Destination. The word "gotolink" appears in the box below. Add the name
> you gave the destination marker ("xy") so that the box contains
> "gotolink xy" (sans quotes). Click New Hypertext Marker.
>
> That's it. If the Validate check box was selected (the default), FM will
> inform you if it couldn't find the named destination (usually because
> you misremembered or mistyped the marker text you entered in step 3).
> Otherwise, you can test your new hyperlink by holding down the Ctrl and
> Alt keys while you click the link.
>
> Once you've done one, it'll take less time to do the next ten than it
> took to read this long-winded procedure. :-)
>
> HTH!
> Richard
>
>
> --
> Richard G. Combs
> Senior Technical Writer
> Polycom, Inc.
> richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
> 303-223-5111
> --
> rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
> 303-777-0436
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