Re: Registering a new FrameMaker license

[Bodvar Bjorgvinsson]

Ask the seller (if not already stated in the description) whether this
is an unused, sealed copy. By the rules of eBay, wrong information
will deem the seller to refund.

Do not ask for a serial number because the seller will probably know
that such information can (sometimes?) be used illegally on pirate
copies.
If it is a used copy, get his/her assertion that Adobe has been
advised of the selling and the former user has been de-registered off
the copy. Adobe cannot IMHO prevent anyone from selling his/her copy,
provided that the registration things are in order.

This info is based solely on my own experience with shopping on eBay
or otherwise on the Internet.

Bodvar


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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I recall recent posts on this subject. Specifically
  about buying an old version of frame from Ebay, and
  then registering it with adobe so as to get the
  upgrade price for the latest version. Apparently, part
  of the problem is to be sure the copy is not already
  registered to someone else. How can I be assured that
  buying the product on Ebay is eligible for
  registration in my name.

  Also, I looked aroun on the Adobe website for the
  subject of how to register Framemaker as the crucial
  step in buying an upgrade.


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Re: Modularised EDDs?

[Scott Prentice]

Hi Hedley...

Yes .. you can do this, and it works quite well (as long as you don't 
get too carried away with the modularization). A FM binary file can have 
any element at the root .. it may be invalid but it will open fine and 
if it's imported into a container EDD will work fine. Just keep in mind 
that if you update one of the insets, you do still need to open the 
root EDD and import that file into the template. Using this technique 
along with variables to define chunks of the EDD is a good approach for 
EDD maintenance.

Note that this is how the structapp stub files have been implemented in 
DITA-FMx .. the stub files themselves are invalid, but when imported as 
an inset into the structapps file, work fine.

Cheers,

...scott

Scott Prentice
Leximation, Inc.
www.leximation.com
+1.415.485.1892



Hedley Finger wrote:
 Lynne Price, Kay Whatley and others:

 The DITA DTDs are modularised to allow ready re-use, specialisation 
 and maintenance.

 Is there any way to create a modularised EDD, with a skeleton host 
 file and modules imported as text insets?  I have been studying the 
 Adobe documentation for developing structured applications but cannot 
 find any reference to using text insets in this way.  I read 
 somewhere a couple of years ago that EDD fragments always require a 
 root element that matches an element in the main host EDD skeleton, 
 which would rather undermine this idea.  But perhaps there is a 
 special root element that can map onto ANY element in the host EDD -- 
 a new feature in FM8?

 It seems to me that both the Adobe and Leximation EDDs could benefit 
 from modularisation that exactly maps onto the *.dtd and *.mod files 
 of the DITA schemas/DTDs.

 Regards,
 Hedley


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Re: fractions

[Joel Wilhelm]

Thanks. I ended up using superscript/subscript to achieve the fraction. - JW

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 Some fractions are part of standard unicode, available from the standard
 Windows Character Map--e.g., ¼, ½, ¾.Sean Pollock

  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: framers@lists.FrameUsers.com
 Subject: Re: fractions Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:11:08 -0600   Is there
 a way to generate fractions  without just writing them like I am here (
 i.e. 1/4)?  One method is to buy any of the various fraction fonts
 available. Go to  myfonts.com or other font seller and search for
 fractions. Yes, you still  have to enter them by typing the individual
 characters, but they will be  properly sized and kerned. You'll have to
 apply a character format to them  that uses the appropriate fraction font,
 or they may display as other  characters, based on the paragraph format. 
 Some of the Pro fonts include Unicode font numerators, denominators, and 
 fraction slash. You can copy and paste them from Character Map, since you 
 have FM8. Again, you'll have to apply a character format to them, unless the
  font is the same one used for the whole paragraph.  Mike Wickham  
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Re: Registering a new FrameMaker license

[Susan Modlin]

Hi,

My last company was on an austerity campaign when I started and I did my 
provisioning off eBay with very mixed results. The FM transactions were 
trouble-free -- the sealed boxes just as advertised. I can't say the same for 
other Adobe products -- and neither eBay nor PayPal was a particle of use in 
resolving conflicts or getting me a refund for bootleg software. I followed 
their procedures to the letter and was still left holding the bag full of bad 
software.

YMMV

...Susan

- Original Message 
From: Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Daniel Emory [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Framers List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 3:38:07 AM
Subject: Re: Registering a new FrameMaker license

Ask the seller (if not already stated in the description) whether this
is an unused, sealed copy. By the rules of eBay, wrong information
will deem the seller to refund.

Do not ask for a serial number because the seller will probably know
that such information can (sometimes?) be used illegally on pirate
copies.
If it is a used copy, get his/her assertion that Adobe has been
advised of the selling and the former user has been de-registered off
the copy. Adobe cannot IMHO prevent anyone from selling his/her copy,
provided that the registration things are in order.

This info is based solely on my own experience with shopping on eBay
or otherwise on the Internet.

Bodvar







  

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RE: Registering a new FrameMaker license

[Matt Sullivan]

Dan (and anyone else looking to purchase Frame licenses)

I have a stack of retail Frame  Frame+SGML still in the shrinkwrap and
never registered. I'd be happy to sell them. 

I also have a stack of licenses predating Adobe's current EDU pricing model.
These are also available and will come with the official Adobe paperwork
allowing for transfer of license. 

Sale of the license numbers is, of course, assuming I've not overstepped
bounds regarding sale of my Adobe-branded property! If so, I'm sure we'll
all hear about it shortly.

Either way, after upgrade costs, you'll still save a bundle.

 

-Matt Sullivan

 

GRAFIX Training, Inc.

An Adobe Authorized Training Center

www.grafixtraining.com

888 882-2819 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Emory
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 11:54 AM
To: Framers List
Subject: Registering a new FrameMaker license

I recall recent posts on this subject. Specifically
about buying an old version of frame from Ebay, and
then registering it with adobe so as to get the
upgrade price for the latest version. Apparently, part
of the problem is to be sure the copy is not already
registered to someone else. How can I be assured that
buying the product on Ebay is eligible for
registration in my name.

Also, I looked aroun on the Adobe website for the
subject of how to register Framemaker as the crucial
step in buying an upgrade.


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RE: Registering a new FrameMaker license

[Dov Isaacs]

Not quite right. A user cannot sell educational, student, or
NFR (demo for industry) versions. The licenses for such software
is NOT transferable.

- Dov

 -Original Message-
 From: Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
 Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 3:38 AM
 To: Daniel Emory
 Cc: Framers List
 Subject: Re: Registering a new FrameMaker license

 Ask the seller (if not already stated in the description) whether this
 is an unused, sealed copy. By the rules of eBay, wrong information
 will deem the seller to refund.

 Do not ask for a serial number because the seller will probably know
 that such information can (sometimes?) be used illegally on pirate
 copies.
 If it is a used copy, get his/her assertion that Adobe has been
 advised of the selling and the former user has been de-registered off
 the copy. Adobe cannot IMHO prevent anyone from selling his/her copy,
 provided that the registration things are in order.

 This info is based solely on my own experience with shopping on eBay
 or otherwise on the Internet.

 Bodvar


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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I recall recent posts on this subject. Specifically
   about buying an old version of frame from Ebay, and
   then registering it with adobe so as to get the
   upgrade price for the latest version. Apparently, part
   of the problem is to be sure the copy is not already
   registered to someone else. How can I be assured that
   buying the product on Ebay is eligible for
   registration in my name.
 
   Also, I looked aroun on the Adobe website for the
   subject of how to register Framemaker as the crucial
   step in buying an upgrade.
 
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Re: Modularised EDDs?

[Hedley Finger]

Martin, Keith, and others:

Yes, Scott's answer is what I was after -- using text insets to build 
modular EDDs to simplify maintenance and avoid duplicating element 
substructures and attributes over and over in different locations on 
the master element tree.  As you point out, provided that a test 
inset's root element fits nicely under an ancestor in the host 
document, you can indeed use boilerplate in a document.  However, FM 
is going to complain about the structure of the text inset source not 
being conformant to an EDD.  I believe that there may be a way around 
this but don't know what it is.

Regards,
Hedley

At Thursday, 28/02/2008, 03:56 AM;, you wrote:
Yes .. you can do this, and it works quite well (as long as you 
don't get too carried away with the modularization). A FM binary 
file can have any element at the root .. it may be invalid but it 
will open fine and if it's imported into a container EDD will work 
fine. Just keep in mind that if you update one of the insets, you do 
still need to open the root EDD and import that file into the 
template. Using this technique along with variables to define chunks 
of the EDD is a good approach for EDD maintenance.
Note that this is how the structapp stub files have been implemented 
in DITA-FMx .. the stub files themselves are invalid, but when 
imported as an inset into the structapps file, work fine.
Cheers,
Scott Prentice
Leximation, Inc.
www.leximation.com
+1.415.485.1892


Hedley Finger wrote:
Lynne Price, Kay Whatley and others:

The DITA DTDs are modularised to allow ready re-use, specialisation 
and maintenance.

Is there any way to create a modularised EDD, with a skeleton host 
file and modules imported as text insets?  I have been studying the 
Adobe documentation for developing structured applications but 
cannot find any reference to using text insets in this way.  I read 
somewhere a couple of years ago that EDD fragments always require a 
root element that matches an element in the main host EDD skeleton, 
which would rather undermine this idea.  But perhaps there is a 
special root element that can map onto ANY element in the host EDD 
-- a new feature in FM8?

It seems to me that both the Adobe and Leximation EDDs could 
benefit from modularisation that exactly maps onto the *.dtd and 
*.mod files of the DITA schemas/DTDs.

Regards,
Hedley


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Text string in title case?

[Tina Ricks]

Hi all,

 

I'm trying to put many text strings (book titles) throughout a long book
into title case. I need to do this at the character level, not the
paragraph. For example, changing

 

THE TITLE OF THIS BOOK 

 

to

 

The Title of This Book

 

So. it needs to have some logic, i.e. knows to skip conjunctions like of
and and etc.

 

I can see in the character designer how to change a set of characters to
small caps, lowercase, or uppercase. Does anyone know of a way to make this
ability go one step further and become title case?

 

Tina Ricks

Editor

Trial Guides, LLC

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Re: Text string in title case?

[Mike Wickham]

I must be misunderstanding you because it sounds like a simple Find/Change 
would do it.

1. In the Find/Change dialogue box, set Find to Text: The Title of This 
Book. Make sure the Consider Case checkbox is unchecked and Find/Change 
will find the phrase no matter what case it is.

2. In the Find/Change dialogue box, set Change to Text: The Title of This 
Book (capitalized the way you want). That will do it. Of course, if you've 
set Small Caps, Uppercase, or Lowercase in the Paragraph Format or 
Character Format that contains the phrase, the setting will override the 
intended result.

3. In the Find/Change dialogue, be sure that Book is selected. Then hit 
Find.

Mike Wickham

- Original Message - 
From: Tina Ricks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 5:13 PM
Subject: Text string in title case?



 Hi all,



 I'm trying to put many text strings (book titles) throughout a long book
 into title case. I need to do this at the character level, not the
 paragraph. For example, changing



 THE TITLE OF THIS BOOK



 to



 The Title of This Book



 So. it needs to have some logic, i.e. knows to skip conjunctions like of
 and and etc.



 I can see in the character designer how to change a set of characters to
 small caps, lowercase, or uppercase. Does anyone know of a way to make 
 this
 ability go one step further and become title case?



 Tina Ricks

 Editor

 Trial Guides, LLC

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]





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RE: Text string in title case?

[Tina Ricks]

Sorry... I wasn't clear. Search/replace won't work.

It's lots and lots of different book titles, all throughout a 600 page
manuscript. This is a legal textbook with loads of footnotes, which contain
references to many other works. The previous author set all the book titles
in all caps, now they need to be cap/lowercase (title case).

So a search/replace doesn't work. I'm trying to avoid retyping all these
titles. Seems like the best so far is to change the case to lower, and
retype the initial caps where needed.

Tina Ricks

-Original Message-
From: Mike Wickham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 4:02 PM
To: Tina Ricks; Frame Users
Subject: Re: Text string in title case?

I must be misunderstanding you because it sounds like a simple Find/Change 
would do it.

1. In the Find/Change dialogue box, set Find to Text: The Title of This 
Book. Make sure the Consider Case checkbox is unchecked and Find/Change 
will find the phrase no matter what case it is.

2. In the Find/Change dialogue box, set Change to Text: The Title of This 
Book (capitalized the way you want). That will do it. Of course, if you've 
set Small Caps, Uppercase, or Lowercase in the Paragraph Format or 
Character Format that contains the phrase, the setting will override the 
intended result.

3. In the Find/Change dialogue, be sure that Book is selected. Then hit 
Find.

Mike Wickham

- Original Message - 
From: Tina Ricks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 5:13 PM
Subject: Text string in title case?



 Hi all,



 I'm trying to put many text strings (book titles) throughout a long book
 into title case. I need to do this at the character level, not the
 paragraph. For example, changing



 THE TITLE OF THIS BOOK



 to



 The Title of This Book



 So. it needs to have some logic, i.e. knows to skip conjunctions like of
 and and etc.



 I can see in the character designer how to change a set of characters to
 small caps, lowercase, or uppercase. Does anyone know of a way to make 
 this
 ability go one step further and become title case?



 Tina Ricks

 Editor

 Trial Guides, LLC

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Re: fractions

[martin . smith]

Hi Joel,

You can try one of the fractions fonts available from Adobe. OpenType  
and PostScript versions are both available.


http://store1.adobe.com/cfusion/store/html/index.cfm?store=OLS-USevent=displayFontPackagecode=234

These fonts allow you to type the numerator and denominator independently.

Best regards,

Martin

Martin R. Smith
GolehTek, LLC
www.golehtek.com

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RE: fractions [accessing Character Map]

[Ashish GUPTA]

If one wants to have a look at the character map of any font or compare
available characters in different fonts (say before deciding on which font
to use, etc.), the character map can be accessed from Start Menu -- All
Programs -- Accessories -- System Tools -- Character Map.

And as we can see in the attached screenshot its easily possible (after
checking advanced view and selecting Number Forms category) to check for the
available fractions in various fonts.

regards,
Ashish



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To: Frame Users
Subject: RE: fractions

Some fractions are part of standard unicode, available from the standard
Windows Character Map--e.g., ¼, ½, ¾.Sean Pollock

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Re: Text string in title case?

[Mike Wickham]

 Sorry... I wasn't clear. Search/replace won't work.

 It's lots and lots of different book titles, all throughout a 600 page
 manuscript. This is a legal textbook with loads of footnotes, which 
 contain
 references to many other works. The previous author set all the book 
 titles
 in all caps, now they need to be cap/lowercase (title case).

 So a search/replace doesn't work. I'm trying to avoid retyping all these
 titles. Seems like the best so far is to change the case to lower, and
 retype the initial caps where needed.


The only idea I can come up with is a wildcard search. In the Find/Change 
dialogue check Consider Case and Use Wildcards. Then search for 
[A-Z][A-Z][A-Z]. This will find all instances of three capital letters in a 
row (and assumes no book titles have less than three capital letters). If 
you know the shortest number of characters in a book title, you might add 
more [A-Z] entries to eliminate finding ISBN and other acronyms. Anyway, the 
wildcard search will find the book titles, but leave you stuck changing 
their case manually. Maybe some of the better minds here will have an idea 
how to do that.

See help for Finding and changing  and Searching for special characters 
and nonprinting symbols for more information.

Mike Wickham


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Re: Text string in title case?

[rebecca officer]

I'm using an old version of Shlomo Perets' extremely useful expanded toolbar 
and it has a button to change the selected string to sentence case. It says the 
keyboard shortcut is Alt+F2. That may be generic on all systems, even those 
without the toolbar. If so, you could use Mike's wildcard search to select each 
title and then Alt+F2 to change them. A lot quicker than retyping!

Cheers, Rebecca

 Mike Wickham [EMAIL PROTECTED] 28/02/08 17:23 
 Sorry... I wasn't clear. Search/replace won't work.

 It's lots and lots of different book titles, all throughout a 600 page
 manuscript. This is a legal textbook with loads of footnotes, which 
 contain
 references to many other works. The previous author set all the book 
 titles
 in all caps, now they need to be cap/lowercase (title case).

 So a search/replace doesn't work. I'm trying to avoid retyping all these
 titles. Seems like the best so far is to change the case to lower, and
 retype the initial caps where needed.


The only idea I can come up with is a wildcard search. In the Find/Change 
dialogue check Consider Case and Use Wildcards. Then search for 
[A-Z][A-Z][A-Z]. This will find all instances of three capital letters in a 
row (and assumes no book titles have less than three capital letters). If 
you know the shortest number of characters in a book title, you might add 
more [A-Z] entries to eliminate finding ISBN and other acronyms. Anyway, the 
wildcard search will find the book titles, but leave you stuck changing 
their case manually. Maybe some of the better minds here will have an idea 
how to do that.

See help for Finding and changing  and Searching for special characters 
and nonprinting symbols for more information.

Mike Wickham


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fractions

[Sean Pollock]

Some fractions are part of standard unicode, available from the standard 
Windows Character Map--e.g., ?, ?, ?.Sean Pollock

> From: mewickham at compuserve.com> To: framers at lists.FrameUsers.com> 
> Subject: Re: fractions> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:11:08 -0600> > > Is there a 
> way to generate fractions> > without just writing them like I am here (i.e. 
> 1/4)?> > One method is to buy any of the various fraction fonts available. Go 
> to > myfonts.com or other font seller and search for "fractions." Yes, you 
> still > have to enter them by typing the individual characters, but they will 
> be > properly sized and kerned. You'll have to apply a character format to 
> them > that uses the appropriate fraction font, or they may display as other 
> > characters, based on the paragraph format.> > Some of the "Pro" fonts 
> include Unicode font numerators, denominators, and > fraction slash. You can 
> copy and paste them from Character Map, since you > have FM8. Again, you'll 
> have to apply a character format to them, unless the > font is the same one 
> used for the whole paragraph.> > Mike Wickham> > > 
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Modularised EDDs?

[Hedley Finger]

Lynne Price, Kay Whatley and others:

The DITA DTDs are modularised to allow ready re-use, specialisation 
and maintenance.

Is there any way to create a modularised EDD, with a skeleton host 
file and modules imported as text insets?  I have been studying the 
Adobe documentation for developing structured applications but cannot 
find any reference to using text insets in this way.  I read 
somewhere a couple of years ago that EDD fragments always require a 
root element that matches an element in the main host EDD skeleton, 
which would rather undermine this idea.  But perhaps there is a 
special root element that can map onto ANY element in the host EDD -- 
a new feature in FM8?

It seems to me that both the Adobe and Leximation EDDs could benefit 
from modularisation that exactly maps onto the *.dtd and *.mod files 
of the DITA schemas/DTDs.

Regards,
Hedley


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Registering a new FrameMaker license

[Bodvar Bjorgvinsson]

Ask the seller (if not already stated in the description) whether this
is an unused, sealed copy. By the rules of eBay, wrong information
will deem the seller to refund.

Do not ask for a serial number because the seller will probably know
that such information can (sometimes?) be used illegally on "pirate"
copies.
If it is a used copy, get his/her assertion that Adobe has been
advised of the selling and the former user has been de-registered off
the copy. Adobe cannot IMHO prevent anyone from selling his/her copy,
provided that the registration things are in order.

This info is based solely on my own experience with shopping on eBay
or otherwise on the Internet.

Bodvar


On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 7:53 PM, Daniel Emory
 wrote:
> I recall recent posts on this subject. Specifically
>  about buying an old version of frame from Ebay, and
>  then registering it with adobe so as to get the
>  upgrade price for the latest version. Apparently, part
>  of the problem is to be sure the copy is not already
>  registered to someone else. How can I be assured that
>  buying the product on Ebay is eligible for
>  registration in my name.
>
>  Also, I looked aroun on the Adobe website for the
>  subject of how to register Framemaker as the crucial
>  step in buying an upgrade.
>
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Modularised EDDs?

[Scott Prentice]

Hi Hedley...

Yes .. you can do this, and it works quite well (as long as you don't 
get too carried away with the modularization). A FM binary file can have 
any element at the root .. it may be "invalid" but it will open fine and 
if it's imported into a container EDD will work fine. Just keep in mind 
that if you update one of the insets, you do still need to open the 
"root" EDD and import that file into the template. Using this technique 
along with variables to define chunks of the EDD is a good approach for 
EDD maintenance.

Note that this is how the structapp stub files have been implemented in 
DITA-FMx .. the stub files themselves are invalid, but when imported as 
an inset into the structapps file, work fine.

Cheers,

...scott

Scott Prentice
Leximation, Inc.
www.leximation.com
+1.415.485.1892



Hedley Finger wrote:
> Lynne Price, Kay Whatley and others:
>
> The DITA DTDs are modularised to allow ready re-use, specialisation 
> and maintenance.
>
> Is there any way to create a modularised EDD, with a skeleton host 
> file and modules imported as text insets?  I have been studying the 
> Adobe documentation for developing structured applications but cannot 
> find any reference to using text insets in this way.  I read 
> somewhere a couple of years ago that EDD fragments always require a 
> root element that matches an element in the main host EDD skeleton, 
> which would rather undermine this idea.  But perhaps there is a 
> special root element that can map onto ANY element in the host EDD -- 
> a new feature in FM8?
>
> It seems to me that both the Adobe and Leximation EDDs could benefit 
> from modularisation that exactly maps onto the *.dtd and *.mod files 
> of the DITA schemas/DTDs.
>
> Regards,
> Hedley
>
>
> --
> Hedley Stewart Finger
> 28 Regent Street   Camberwell VIC 3124   Australia
> Tel. +61 3 9809 1229   Mobile +61 412 461 558,
> E-mail 
>
>
>
>   

fractions

[Joel Wilhelm]

Thanks. I ended up using superscript/subscript to achieve the fraction. - JW

On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 8:15 PM, Sean Pollock  wrote:

> Some fractions are part of standard unicode, available from the standard
> Windows Character Map--e.g., ?, ?, ?.Sean Pollock
>
> > From: mewickham at compuserve.com> To: framers at lists.FrameUsers.com>
> Subject: Re: fractions> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:11:08 -0600> > > Is there
> a way to generate fractions> > without just writing them like I am here (
> i.e. 1/4)?> > One method is to buy any of the various fraction fonts
> available. Go to > myfonts.com or other font seller and search for
> "fractions." Yes, you still > have to enter them by typing the individual
> characters, but they will be > properly sized and kerned. You'll have to
> apply a character format to them > that uses the appropriate fraction font,
> or they may display as other > characters, based on the paragraph format.> >
> Some of the "Pro" fonts include Unicode font numerators, denominators, and >
> fraction slash. You can copy and paste them from Character Map, since you >
> have FM8. Again, you'll have to apply a character format to them, unless the
> > font is the same one used for the whole paragraph.> > Mike Wickham> > >
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Registering a new FrameMaker license

[Susan Modlin]

Hi,

My last company was on an austerity campaign when I started and I did my 
provisioning off eBay with very mixed results. The FM transactions were 
trouble-free -- the sealed boxes just as advertised. I can't say the same for 
other Adobe products -- and neither eBay nor PayPal was a particle of use in 
resolving conflicts or getting me a refund for bootleg software. I followed 
their procedures to the letter and was still left holding the bag full of bad 
software.

YMMV

...Susan

- Original Message 
From: Bodvar Bjorgvinsson 
To: Daniel Emory 
Cc: Framers List 
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 3:38:07 AM
Subject: Re: Registering a new FrameMaker license

Ask the seller (if not already stated in the description) whether this
is an unused, sealed copy. By the rules of eBay, wrong information
will deem the seller to refund.

Do not ask for a serial number because the seller will probably know
that such information can (sometimes?) be used illegally on "pirate"
copies.
If it is a used copy, get his/her assertion that Adobe has been
advised of the selling and the former user has been de-registered off
the copy. Adobe cannot IMHO prevent anyone from selling his/her copy,
provided that the registration things are in order.

This info is based solely on my own experience with shopping on eBay
or otherwise on the Internet.

Bodvar







  

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Registering a new FrameMaker license

[Matt Sullivan]

Dan (and anyone else looking to purchase Frame licenses)

I have a stack of retail Frame & Frame+SGML still in the shrinkwrap and
never registered. I'd be happy to sell them. 

I also have a stack of licenses predating Adobe's current EDU pricing model.
These are also available and will come with the official Adobe paperwork
allowing for transfer of license. 

Sale of the license numbers is, of course, assuming I've not overstepped
bounds regarding sale of my Adobe-branded property! If so, I'm sure we'll
all hear about it shortly.

Either way, after upgrade costs, you'll still save a bundle.



-Matt Sullivan



GRAFIX Training, Inc.

An Adobe Authorized Training Center

www.grafixtraining.com

888 882-2819 


-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Emory
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 11:54 AM
To: Framers List
Subject: Registering a new FrameMaker license

I recall recent posts on this subject. Specifically
about buying an old version of frame from Ebay, and
then registering it with adobe so as to get the
upgrade price for the latest version. Apparently, part
of the problem is to be sure the copy is not already
registered to someone else. How can I be assured that
buying the product on Ebay is eligible for
registration in my name.

Also, I looked aroun on the Adobe website for the
subject of how to register Framemaker as the crucial
step in buying an upgrade.


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Registering a new FrameMaker license

[Dov Isaacs]

Not quite right. A user cannot sell "educational", "student," or
"NFR" (demo for industry) versions. The licenses for such software
is NOT transferable.

- Dov

> -Original Message-
> From: Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 3:38 AM
> To: Daniel Emory
> Cc: Framers List
> Subject: Re: Registering a new FrameMaker license
>
> Ask the seller (if not already stated in the description) whether this
> is an unused, sealed copy. By the rules of eBay, wrong information
> will deem the seller to refund.
>
> Do not ask for a serial number because the seller will probably know
> that such information can (sometimes?) be used illegally on "pirate"
> copies.
> If it is a used copy, get his/her assertion that Adobe has been
> advised of the selling and the former user has been de-registered off
> the copy. Adobe cannot IMHO prevent anyone from selling his/her copy,
> provided that the registration things are in order.
>
> This info is based solely on my own experience with shopping on eBay
> or otherwise on the Internet.
>
> Bodvar
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 7:53 PM, Daniel Emory
>  wrote:
> > I recall recent posts on this subject. Specifically
> >  about buying an old version of frame from Ebay, and
> >  then registering it with adobe so as to get the
> >  upgrade price for the latest version. Apparently, part
> >  of the problem is to be sure the copy is not already
> >  registered to someone else. How can I be assured that
> >  buying the product on Ebay is eligible for
> >  registration in my name.
> >
> >  Also, I looked aroun on the Adobe website for the
> >  subject of how to register Framemaker as the crucial
> >  step in buying an upgrade.
> >

Modularised EDDs?

[Scott Prentice]

Frame doesn't complain about invalid structure if it's in an FM binary 
file. You'll see red in the structure view, but that's all .. give it a 
whirl, it works just fine!  :)

...scott


Hedley Finger wrote:
> Martin, Keith, and others:
>
> Yes, Scott's answer is what I was after -- using text insets to build 
> modular EDDs to simplify maintenance and avoid duplicating element 
> substructures and attributes over and over in different locations on 
> the master element tree.  As you point out, provided that a test 
> inset's root element fits nicely under an ancestor in the host 
> document, you can indeed use boilerplate in a document.  However, FM 
> is going to complain about the structure of the text inset source not 
> being conformant to an EDD.  I believe that there may be a way around 
> this but don't know what it is.
>
> Regards,
> Hedley
>
> At Thursday, 28/02/2008, 03:56 AM;, you wrote:
>   
>> Yes .. you can do this, and it works quite well (as long as you 
>> don't get too carried away with the modularization). A FM binary 
>> file can have any element at the root .. it may be "invalid" but it 
>> will open fine and if it's imported into a container EDD will work 
>> fine. Just keep in mind that if you update one of the insets, you do 
>> still need to open the "root" EDD and import that file into the 
>> template. Using this technique along with variables to define chunks 
>> of the EDD is a good approach for EDD maintenance.
>> Note that this is how the structapp stub files have been implemented 
>> in DITA-FMx .. the stub files themselves are invalid, but when 
>> imported as an inset into the structapps file, work fine.
>> Cheers,
>> Scott Prentice
>> Leximation, Inc.
>> www.leximation.com
>> +1.415.485.1892
>>
>>
>> Hedley Finger wrote:
>> 
>>> Lynne Price, Kay Whatley and others:
>>>
>>> The DITA DTDs are modularised to allow ready re-use, specialisation 
>>> and maintenance.
>>>
>>> Is there any way to create a modularised EDD, with a skeleton host 
>>> file and modules imported as text insets?  I have been studying the 
>>> Adobe documentation for developing structured applications but 
>>> cannot find any reference to using text insets in this way.  I read 
>>> somewhere a couple of years ago that EDD fragments always require a 
>>> root element that matches an element in the main host EDD skeleton, 
>>> which would rather undermine this idea.  But perhaps there is a 
>>> special root element that can map onto ANY element in the host EDD 
>>> -- a new feature in FM8?
>>>
>>> It seems to me that both the Adobe and Leximation EDDs could 
>>> benefit from modularisation that exactly maps onto the *.dtd and 
>>> *.mod files of the DITA schemas/DTDs.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Hedley
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Hedley Stewart Finger
>>> 28 Regent Street   Camberwell VIC 3124   Australia
>>> Tel. +61 3 9809 1229   Mobile +61 412 461 558,
>>> E-mail 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>> --
>> Hedley Stewart Finger
>> 28 Regent Street   Camberwell VIC 3124   Australia
>> Tel. +61 3 9809 1229   Mobile +61 412 461 558,
>> E-mail 
>> 
>
>
>   

Text string in title case?

[Tina Ricks]

Hi all,



I'm trying to put many text strings (book titles) throughout a long book
into title case. I need to do this at the character level, not the
paragraph. For example, changing



THE TITLE OF THIS BOOK 



to



The Title of This Book



So. it needs to have some logic, i.e. knows to skip conjunctions like "of"
and "and" etc.



I can see in the character designer how to change a set of characters to
small caps, lowercase, or uppercase. Does anyone know of a way to make this
ability go one step further and become title case?



Tina Ricks

Editor

Trial Guides, LLC

tina at trialguides.com

Text string in title case?

[Mike Wickham]

I must be misunderstanding you because it sounds like a simple Find/Change 
would do it.

1. In the Find/Change dialogue box, set Find to Text: "The Title of This 
Book." Make sure the "Consider Case" checkbox is unchecked and Find/Change 
will find the phrase no matter what case it is.

2. In the Find/Change dialogue box, set Change to Text: "The Title of This 
Book" (capitalized the way you want). That will do it. Of course, if you've 
set "Small Caps," "Uppercase," or "Lowercase" in the Paragraph Format or 
Character Format that contains the phrase, the setting will override the 
intended result.

3. In the Find/Change dialogue, be sure that "Book" is selected. Then hit 
Find.

Mike Wickham

- Original Message - 
From: "Tina Ricks" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 5:13 PM
Subject: Text string in title case?


>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> I'm trying to put many text strings (book titles) throughout a long book
> into title case. I need to do this at the character level, not the
> paragraph. For example, changing
>
>
>
> THE TITLE OF THIS BOOK
>
>
>
> to
>
>
>
> The Title of This Book
>
>
>
> So. it needs to have some logic, i.e. knows to skip conjunctions like "of"
> and "and" etc.
>
>
>
> I can see in the character designer how to change a set of characters to
> small caps, lowercase, or uppercase. Does anyone know of a way to make 
> this
> ability go one step further and become title case?
>
>
>
> Tina Ricks
>
> Editor
>
> Trial Guides, LLC
>
> tina at trialguides.com
>
>
>
>
>
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Text string in title case?

[Tina Ricks]

Sorry... I wasn't clear. Search/replace won't work.

It's lots and lots of different book titles, all throughout a 600 page
manuscript. This is a legal textbook with loads of footnotes, which contain
references to many other works. The previous author set all the book titles
in all caps, now they need to be cap/lowercase (title case).

So a search/replace doesn't work. I'm trying to avoid retyping all these
titles. Seems like the best so far is to change the case to lower, and
retype the initial caps where needed.

Tina Ricks

-Original Message-
From: Mike Wickham [mailto:mewick...@compuserve.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 4:02 PM
To: Tina Ricks; Frame Users
Subject: Re: Text string in title case?

I must be misunderstanding you because it sounds like a simple Find/Change 
would do it.

1. In the Find/Change dialogue box, set Find to Text: "The Title of This 
Book." Make sure the "Consider Case" checkbox is unchecked and Find/Change 
will find the phrase no matter what case it is.

2. In the Find/Change dialogue box, set Change to Text: "The Title of This 
Book" (capitalized the way you want). That will do it. Of course, if you've 
set "Small Caps," "Uppercase," or "Lowercase" in the Paragraph Format or 
Character Format that contains the phrase, the setting will override the 
intended result.

3. In the Find/Change dialogue, be sure that "Book" is selected. Then hit 
Find.

Mike Wickham

- Original Message - 
From: "Tina Ricks" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 5:13 PM
Subject: Text string in title case?


>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> I'm trying to put many text strings (book titles) throughout a long book
> into title case. I need to do this at the character level, not the
> paragraph. For example, changing
>
>
>
> THE TITLE OF THIS BOOK
>
>
>
> to
>
>
>
> The Title of This Book
>
>
>
> So. it needs to have some logic, i.e. knows to skip conjunctions like "of"
> and "and" etc.
>
>
>
> I can see in the character designer how to change a set of characters to
> small caps, lowercase, or uppercase. Does anyone know of a way to make 
> this
> ability go one step further and become title case?
>
>
>
> Tina Ricks
>
> Editor
>
> Trial Guides, LLC
>
> tina at trialguides.com
>
>
>
>
>
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fractions [accessing Character Map]

[Ashish GUPTA]

If one wants to have a look at the character map of any font or compare
available characters in different fonts (say before deciding on which font
to use, etc.), the character map can be accessed from Start Menu --> All
Programs --> Accessories --> System Tools --> Character Map.

And as we can see in the attached screenshot its easily possible (after
checking advanced view and selecting Number Forms category) to check for the
available fractions in various fonts.

regards,
Ashish



-Original Message-
From: Sean Pollock [mailto:spoll...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 6:46 AM
To: Frame Users
Subject: RE: fractions

Some fractions are part of standard unicode, available from the standard
Windows Character Map--e.g., ?, ?, ?.Sean Pollock

Modularised EDDs?

[martin.sm...@golehtek.com]

Hi Hedley,

I gather from your email that you are trying to get the benefits of  
DITA?creating reusable, modular topics?using FrameMaker?s text inset  
feature. This approach makes sense, because you would eliminate the  
need for an expensive, XML-based content management system, which is  
really what you need to deliver on all the hype surrounding DITA.

This is an area of interest of mine as well,  and I think I have a  
novel solution. Using the FrameScript language, I can easily encode a  
section/topic element from a FrameMaker document in XML and store that  
XML in an open-source, freely available database such as MySQL.

I can then insert a section/topic element in a different FrameMaker  
document and have the option of importing one of the topics stored in  
the database. The script fetches the XML from the database and  
reconstructs all of the elements and text from the original root  
element (topic, section, etc.), preserving any elements, attributes,  
tables, equations, referenced graphics, and index markers.

I have already used this approach for an embedded help authoring  
system that stores XML encoded content in a relational database. I  
will soon be releasing a freely available script for storing and  
retrieving topics in a database and will make the scripts and sample  
files available for download on my web site. I will also offer a  
commercial version that allows everyone in a work group to store and  
retrieve topics in a database at a reasonable cost.

If this workflow is of interest to you, I would be happy to provide  
you with beta versions of the script in exchange for your input.

Full disclosure: I am a FrameMaker internals developer and consultant  
and run a web site at http://www.golehtek.com that offers free and  
commercial applications for Adobe FrameMaker based on the FrameScript  
programming language.

Please reply with an email if you are interested. I would like to  
learn more about what you are trying to achieve.

Best regards,

Martin

Martin R. Smith
President: GolehTek, LLC
703-889-0845
www.golehtek.com

Quoting Hedley Finger :

>
> Lynne Price, Kay Whatley and others:
>
> The DITA DTDs are modularised to allow ready re-use, specialisation
> and maintenance.
>
> Is there any way to create a modularised EDD, with a skeleton host
> file and modules imported as text insets?  I have been studying the
> Adobe documentation for developing structured applications but cannot
> find any reference to using text insets in this way.  I read
> somewhere a couple of years ago that EDD fragments always require a
> root element that matches an element in the main host EDD skeleton,
> which would rather undermine this idea.  But perhaps there is a
> special root element that can map onto ANY element in the host EDD --
> a new feature in FM8?
>
> It seems to me that both the Adobe and Leximation EDDs could benefit
> from modularisation that exactly maps onto the *.dtd and *.mod files
> of the DITA schemas/DTDs.
>
> Regards,
> Hedley
>
>
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Text string in title case?

[Mike Wickham]

> Sorry... I wasn't clear. Search/replace won't work.
>
> It's lots and lots of different book titles, all throughout a 600 page
> manuscript. This is a legal textbook with loads of footnotes, which 
> contain
> references to many other works. The previous author set all the book 
> titles
> in all caps, now they need to be cap/lowercase (title case).
>
> So a search/replace doesn't work. I'm trying to avoid retyping all these
> titles. Seems like the best so far is to change the case to lower, and
> retype the initial caps where needed.


The only idea I can come up with is a wildcard search. In the Find/Change 
dialogue check "Consider Case" and "Use Wildcards." Then search for 
[A-Z][A-Z][A-Z]. This will find all instances of three capital letters in a 
row (and assumes no book titles have less than three capital letters). If 
you know the shortest number of characters in a book title, you might add 
more [A-Z] entries to eliminate finding ISBN and other acronyms. Anyway, the 
wildcard search will find the book titles, but leave you stuck changing 
their case manually. Maybe some of the better minds here will have an idea 
how to do that.

See help for "Finding and changing " and "Searching for special characters 
and nonprinting symbols" for more information.

Mike Wickham