Of Templates and Legacy Docs
I do have SPS Paragraph Tools and Character Tools, and they're extremely useful and easy to use. Rick Quatro also has a plugin (FindChangeSpecial) that does onesies of condition tag and other changes, as well as a script FindChangeSpecialBatch that allows bulk processing of remapping and deleting all kinds of stuff from paragraph and character formats to variables to condition tags and lots of other stuff, all in one fell swoop. If memory serves, I think it handles cross-references, too (Rick?) There was another post recently about a condition tag remapper that Ian Hawkins is developing that checks to see if the condition is in use. Martin at Golehtek.com has some plugins, too, that you might find useful. HTH Rene Stephenson -Original Message- From: Jim Owens [mailto:jow...@magma.ca] Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 3:20 PM To: Pinkham, Jim Cc: Rene Stephenson; Fred Ridder; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Of Templates and Legacy Docs THis link may be useful as well: http://www.freeframers.org/archive/01/msg01023.html Pinkham, Jim wrote: > Thanks to all for good ideas thus far. I can give a partial answer to Rene's question based on a quick Google search: > > "Participants in the upcoming FrameMaker Template Design seminars receive a license for CudSpan's TemplateMapper plug-in for FrameMaker/Windows ($200 value)." > > This is apparently a current fringe for attending MicroType training, http://www.microtype.com/training/FMTemplateDesign.pdf. > > Jim > > > > > From: Rene Stephenson [mailto:rinnie1 at yahoo.com] > Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 1:55 PM > To: Fred Ridder; Pinkham, Jim; framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: Of Templates and Legacy Docs > > > Nope, but you would need to tell him (and the rest of us who have been searching for it for a couple of years now since CudSpan went off-line and Mr. Despopoulos dropped out of virtual visability) how we can purchase it nowadays. > > Please... Pretty please with sugar on top > > > > Rene L. Stephenson > > > - Original Message > Fred Ridder responded: > > Well, I won't go into any discussion of how many hours of your time you > would need to save to pay for the $200 cost of Template Mapper... > ... > _ > Change the world with e-mail. Join the i?m Initiative from Microsoft. > http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?source=EML_WL_ChangeWorld > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as rinnie1 at yahoo.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rinnie1%40yahoo.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as jowens at magma.ca. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jowens%40magma.ca > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > > -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.24.0/1460 - Release Date: 5/22/2008 7:06 AM
Of Templates and Legacy Docs
Thanks, Jim! Hello, Schlomo. I checked microtype.com and saw several training classes offered. Any plans on heading toward the southeastern U.S. in the near future? Rene Stephenson _ From: Pinkham, Jim [mailto:jim.pink...@voith.com] Thanks to all for good ideas thus far. I can give a partial answer to Rene's question based on a quick Google search: "Participants in the upcoming FrameMaker Template Design seminars receive a license for CudSpan's TemplateMapper plug-in for FrameMaker/Windows ($200 value)." This is apparently a current fringe for attending MicroType training, http://www.microtype.com/training/FMTemplateDesign.pdf. Jim
Re: Of Templates and Legacy Docs
Jim - So my understanding is that the company you work for will not spring for $200 for SW that will end up saving you dozens of hours of grunt work and the company possibly thousands of dollars in your salary. "For discussion's sake," let's say buy Template Mapper with your own funds, use it for this project, and uninstall it when you leave to go to a wiser and less penurious employer. Unless your children are truly going to do without milk and shoes, I'd say spend the $200. Feeling rather grumpy this Friday afternoon, Will White ViaLogy LLC On May 23, 2008, at 11:17 AM, Pinkham, Jim wrote: > Hello, all -- > > I've just spent a couple of days getting our standard manual template > tweaked and polished and localized from its timeworn Germanic origins > (we inherited from our corporate parent across the pond). Now the task > is to begin applying the template to new docs that are often based > upon > old manuals that used the old template. Looks like Template Mapper > would > be perfect for the task, but let's assume that no matter how wise and > cost-effective and practical it might be, that $200 is not an > option in > the near future. So let's not go there. We'll just postulate that's a > good idea, and leave it at that. For discussion's sake, this is a $0 > project. > > The question is this: Just using the normal set of tools that comes > with > Frame (7.1 on Windows XP SP-2), and possibly freeware, what is the > fastest, most effective way to migrate a new template into old > docs. Am > I doomed to paragraph-by-paragraph, table-by-table, and cell-by-cell > transformations? Or are there better alternatives? > > Jim > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ > whitefamily%40mac.com > > Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ++ First Soviet Citizen: Comrade, what kind of a day is it for you? Second Soviet Citizen: Average. Worse than yesterday, better than tomorrow. ++ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Of Templates and Legacy Docs
Jim - So my understanding is that the company you work for will not spring for $200 for SW that will end up saving you dozens of hours of grunt work and the company possibly thousands of dollars in your salary. "For discussion's sake," let's say buy Template Mapper with your own funds, use it for this project, and uninstall it when you leave to go to a wiser and less penurious employer. Unless your children are truly going to do without milk and shoes, I'd say spend the $200. Feeling rather grumpy this Friday afternoon, Will White ViaLogy LLC On May 23, 2008, at 11:17 AM, Pinkham, Jim wrote: > Hello, all -- > > I've just spent a couple of days getting our standard manual template > tweaked and polished and localized from its timeworn Germanic origins > (we inherited from our corporate parent across the pond). Now the task > is to begin applying the template to new docs that are often based > upon > old manuals that used the old template. Looks like Template Mapper > would > be perfect for the task, but let's assume that no matter how wise and > cost-effective and practical it might be, that $200 is not an > option in > the near future. So let's not go there. We'll just postulate that's a > good idea, and leave it at that. For discussion's sake, this is a $0 > project. > > The question is this: Just using the normal set of tools that comes > with > Frame (7.1 on Windows XP SP-2), and possibly freeware, what is the > fastest, most effective way to migrate a new template into old > docs. Am > I doomed to paragraph-by-paragraph, table-by-table, and cell-by-cell > transformations? Or are there better alternatives? > > Jim > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as whitefamily at mac.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ > whitefamily%40mac.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ++ First Soviet Citizen: Comrade, what kind of a day is it for you? Second Soviet Citizen: Average. Worse than yesterday, better than tomorrow. ++
RE: Of Templates and Legacy Docs
I do have SPS Paragraph Tools and Character Tools, and they're extremely useful and easy to use. Rick Quatro also has a plugin (FindChangeSpecial) that does onesies of condition tag and other changes, as well as a script FindChangeSpecialBatch that allows bulk processing of remapping and deleting all kinds of stuff from paragraph and character formats to variables to condition tags and lots of other stuff, all in one fell swoop. If memory serves, I think it handles cross-references, too (Rick?) There was another post recently about a condition tag remapper that Ian Hawkins is developing that checks to see if the condition is in use. Martin at Golehtek.com has some plugins, too, that you might find useful. HTH Rene Stephenson -Original Message- From: Jim Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 3:20 PM To: Pinkham, Jim Cc: Rene Stephenson; Fred Ridder; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Of Templates and Legacy Docs THis link may be useful as well: http://www.freeframers.org/archive/01/msg01023.html Pinkham, Jim wrote: > Thanks to all for good ideas thus far. I can give a partial answer to Rene's question based on a quick Google search: > > "Participants in the upcoming FrameMaker Template Design seminars receive a license for CudSpan's TemplateMapper plug-in for FrameMaker/Windows ($200 value)." > > This is apparently a current fringe for attending MicroType training, http://www.microtype.com/training/FMTemplateDesign.pdf. > > Jim > > > > > From: Rene Stephenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 1:55 PM > To: Fred Ridder; Pinkham, Jim; framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: Of Templates and Legacy Docs > > > Nope, but you would need to tell him (and the rest of us who have been searching for it for a couple of years now since CudSpan went off-line and Mr. Despopoulos dropped out of virtual visability) how we can purchase it nowadays. > > Please... Pretty please with sugar on top > > > > Rene L. Stephenson > > > - Original Message > Fred Ridder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> responded: > > Well, I won't go into any discussion of how many hours of your time you > would need to save to pay for the $200 cost of Template Mapper... > ... > _ > Change the world with e-mail. Join the i¢m Initiative from Microsoft. > http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?source=EML_WL_ChangeWorld > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rinnie1%40yahoo.com > > Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jowens%40magma.ca > > Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > > -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.24.0/1460 - Release Date: 5/22/2008 7:06 AM ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Of Templates and Legacy Docs
Thanks, Jim! Hello, Schlomo. I checked microtype.com and saw several training classes offered. Any plans on heading toward the southeastern U.S. in the near future? Rene Stephenson _ From: Pinkham, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks to all for good ideas thus far. I can give a partial answer to Rene's question based on a quick Google search: "Participants in the upcoming FrameMaker Template Design seminars receive a license for CudSpan's TemplateMapper plug-in for FrameMaker/Windows ($200 value)." This is apparently a current fringe for attending MicroType training, http://www.microtype.com/training/FMTemplateDesign.pdf. Jim ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Converting to Word
Diane: The name "Microsoft Word 2007" is confusing me a bit on this. Does the filter work on older RTF-based formats for Word, or does it rely on the XML-based formats in Word 2003 and 2007? Bear -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Diane Gaskill Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 2:16 PM To: Framers Subject: RE: Converting to Word Frank, What version of FM are you using, and how "small" is this set of documents? It is well known that all of the FM to RTF filters in FM up to version 7.2 do not work very well, especially on large files. I have successfully converted small files (2-5 pages) but even those needed cleanup. HOWEVER Adobe hase considerably improved the FM > Word filter in FM8. It's not perfect but it does work pretty well. Adobe has also included a new Word > FM filter that works really well. I use it all the time because we get a lot of our source information froim the engineers in Word. This new filter, called Microsoft Word 2007, cleanly converts text, tables, and even graphics from Word to FM. I have run it on 80 page Word docs with lots of tables and graphics. The conversion takes about 3 minutes. Diane PS - I cannot believe that Boeing won't spend all of $300 for Mif2Go (www.omsys.com). It would cost them less for that than it would for your time to do the job by hand. ==
Of Templates and Legacy Docs
THis link may be useful as well: http://www.freeframers.org/archive/01/msg01023.html Pinkham, Jim wrote: > Thanks to all for good ideas thus far. I can give a partial answer to Rene's > question based on a quick Google search: > > "Participants in the upcoming FrameMaker Template Design seminars receive a > license for CudSpan's TemplateMapper plug-in for FrameMaker/Windows ($200 > value)." > > This is apparently a current fringe for attending MicroType training, > http://www.microtype.com/training/FMTemplateDesign.pdf. > > Jim > > > > > From: Rene Stephenson [mailto:rinnie1 at yahoo.com] > Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 1:55 PM > To: Fred Ridder; Pinkham, Jim; framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: Of Templates and Legacy Docs > > > Nope, but you would need to tell him (and the rest of us who have been > searching for it for a couple of years now since CudSpan went off-line and > Mr. Despopoulos dropped out of virtual visability) how we can purchase it > nowadays. > > Please... Pretty please with sugar on top > > > > Rene L. Stephenson > > > - Original Message > Fred Ridder responded: > > Well, I won't go into any discussion of how many hours of your time you > would need to save to pay for the $200 cost of Template Mapper... > ... > _ > Change the world with e-mail. Join the i?m Initiative from Microsoft. > http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?source=EML_WL_ChangeWorld > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as rinnie1 at yahoo.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rinnie1%40yahoo.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as jowens at magma.ca. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jowens%40magma.ca > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > >
Of Templates and Legacy Docs
If you're just changing the names of the tags, or consistently reassigning some tags as other tags, consider saving the files as MIF and doing a search-and-replace on the tag names. Is this a $0 solution? well, there's a cost involved in learning enough MIF to do it. If you can spare a week or so, that's probably all you'd need (depending on the complexity of the problem). Then there's the time it takes to alter the MIF files. Are you _sure_ you can't find $200? Pinkham, Jim wrote: > Hello, all -- > > I've just spent a couple of days getting our standard manual template > tweaked and polished and localized from its timeworn Germanic origins > (we inherited from our corporate parent across the pond). Now the task > is to begin applying the template to new docs that are often based upon > old manuals that used the old template. Looks like Template Mapper would > be perfect for the task, but let's assume that no matter how wise and > cost-effective and practical it might be, that $200 is not an option in > the near future. So let's not go there. We'll just postulate that's a > good idea, and leave it at that. For discussion's sake, this is a $0 > project. > > The question is this: Just using the normal set of tools that comes with > Frame (7.1 on Windows XP SP-2), and possibly freeware, what is the > fastest, most effective way to migrate a new template into old docs. Am > I doomed to paragraph-by-paragraph, table-by-table, and cell-by-cell > transformations? Or are there better alternatives? > > Jim > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as jowens at magma.ca. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jowens%40magma.ca > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > >
Of Templates and Legacy Docs
Well, the way I read this (http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/), Jim P's costs went down to $10. Nice. Don Jim Owens wrote: > THis link may be useful as well: > > http://www.freeframers.org/archive/01/msg01023.html > > > Pinkham, Jim wrote: > >> Thanks to all for good ideas thus far. I can give a partial answer to Rene's >> question based on a quick Google search: >> >> "Participants in the upcoming FrameMaker Template Design seminars receive a >> license for CudSpan's TemplateMapper plug-in for FrameMaker/Windows ($200 >> value)." >> >> This is apparently a current fringe for attending MicroType training, >> http://www.microtype.com/training/FMTemplateDesign.pdf. >> >> Jim >> >> >> >> >> From: Rene Stephenson [mailto:rinnie1 at yahoo.com] >> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 1:55 PM >> To: Fred Ridder; Pinkham, Jim; framers at lists.frameusers.com >> Subject: Re: Of Templates and Legacy Docs >> >> >> Nope, but you would need to tell him (and the rest of us who have been >> searching for it for a couple of years now since CudSpan went off-line and >> Mr. Despopoulos dropped out of virtual visability) how we can purchase it >> nowadays. >> >> Please... Pretty please with sugar on top >> >> >> >> Rene L. Stephenson >> >> >> - Original Message >> Fred Ridder responded: >> >> Well, I won't go into any discussion of how many hours of your time you >> would need to save to pay for the $200 cost of Template Mapper... >> ... >> _ >> Change the world with e-mail. Join the i?m Initiative from Microsoft. >> http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?source=EML_WL_ChangeWorld >> ___ >> >> >> You are currently subscribed to Framers as rinnie1 at yahoo.com. >> >> Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. >> >> To unsubscribe send a blank email to >> framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com >> or visit >> http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rinnie1%40yahoo.com >> >> Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit >> http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >> >> ___ >> >> >> You are currently subscribed to Framers as jowens at magma.ca. >> >> Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. >> >> To unsubscribe send a blank email to >> framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com >> or visit >> http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jowens%40magma.ca >> >> Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit >> http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >> >> >> >> > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as Donald.M.Rinderknecht at noaa.gov. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/donald.m.rinderknecht%40noaa.gov > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- Don Rinderknecht -- KD5MVV Meteorologist Instructor/Developer ~ Warning Decision Training Branch 120 David L. Boren Blvd Suite 2640 Norman, OK 73072 405.325.2805 ~ Donald.M.Rinderknecht at noaa.gov ~ http://wdtb.noaa.gov ~
Of Templates and Legacy Docs
Jim Pinkham asked: > The question is this: Just using the normal set of tools that comes with > Frame (7.1 on Windows XP SP-2), and possibly freeware, what is the > fastest, most effective way to migrate a new template into old docs. Am > I doomed to paragraph-by-paragraph, table-by-table, and cell-by-cell > transformations? Or are there better alternatives? Well, I won't go into any discussion of how many hours of your time you would need to save to pay for the $200 cost of Template Mapper... You are not doomed to a paragraph-by-paragraph reformatting exercise. Start by identifying the mapping of old styles to new. For all cases of 1-to-1 mappings (exactly one old style maps to a particular new style) just rename the old style before you import the new template and its formatting. For cases where more than one old style maps to a new style, you can rename only one of the old styles (pick the most prevalent one) and you'll need to retag the the remaining paragraphs to the new style name. Then once everything is tagged with new names, simply import the new template. Not terrible, but the tool would be faster and much less boring. _ Change the world with e-mail. Join the i?m Initiative from Microsoft. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?source=EML_WL_ChangeWorld
Converting to Word
I agree with those who suggest saving as RTF - however, when I've done this (with FrameMaker 7.0 and 7.2), I've had the best results saving as RTF Japanese. > -Original Message- > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of > Dodd, Frank J > Sent: Thursday, 22 May 2008 11:39 PM > To: Framers > Subject: Converting to Word > > > I have a small set of documents that I wish to convert to > Microsoft Word format. They are work instructions with > graphics attached - no external links. I have tried the Save > as technique and it just locks up Framemaker. > > Short of retyping the documents does anybody know of a way to > convert them to MS Word. We are not allowed to purchase > outside software or plugins to make the process easier. > > \God forbid we do something that makes us more efficient. > That's sarcasm. > > > Frank
Of Templates and Legacy Docs
Thanks to all for good ideas thus far. I can give a partial answer to Rene's question based on a quick Google search: "Participants in the upcoming FrameMaker Template Design seminars receive a license for CudSpan's TemplateMapper plug-in for FrameMaker/Windows ($200 value)." This is apparently a current fringe for attending MicroType training, http://www.microtype.com/training/FMTemplateDesign.pdf. Jim From: Rene Stephenson [mailto:rinn...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 1:55 PM To: Fred Ridder; Pinkham, Jim; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Of Templates and Legacy Docs Nope, but you would need to tell him (and the rest of us who have been searching for it for a couple of years now since CudSpan went off-line and Mr. Despopoulos dropped out of virtual visability) how we can purchase it nowadays. Please... Pretty please with sugar on top Rene L. Stephenson - Original Message Fred Ridder responded: Well, I won't go into any discussion of how many hours of your time you would need to save to pay for the $200 cost of Template Mapper... ... _ Change the world with e-mail. Join the i?m Initiative from Microsoft. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?source=EML_WL_ChangeWorld ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as rinnie1 at yahoo.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rinnie1%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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Daniel Frankham wrote: > I agree with those who suggest saving as RTF - however, when I've done > this (with FrameMaker 7.0 and 7.2), I've had the best results saving as > RTF Japanese. Dodd, Frank J replied: > Japanese might work.. I could then run it through Babel fish and paste > it too a word document. Umm, no... that's not how it works. For several versions of FM, the RTF Japanese filters (both import and export, I believe) came from a different vendor than the regular RTF filters and were much more robust. File imports/exports that failed or gave poor results using the regular RTF filters would often work much better using the RTF Japanese filters instead. The RTF Japanese filters handle Western characters just fine. They certainly don't translate your document into Japanese. :-) Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 --
Of Templates and Legacy Docs
Hello, all -- I've just spent a couple of days getting our standard manual template tweaked and polished and localized from its timeworn Germanic origins (we inherited from our corporate parent across the pond). Now the task is to begin applying the template to new docs that are often based upon old manuals that used the old template. Looks like Template Mapper would be perfect for the task, but let's assume that no matter how wise and cost-effective and practical it might be, that $200 is not an option in the near future. So let's not go there. We'll just postulate that's a good idea, and leave it at that. For discussion's sake, this is a $0 project. The question is this: Just using the normal set of tools that comes with Frame (7.1 on Windows XP SP-2), and possibly freeware, what is the fastest, most effective way to migrate a new template into old docs. Am I doomed to paragraph-by-paragraph, table-by-table, and cell-by-cell transformations? Or are there better alternatives? Jim
Re: Of Templates and Legacy Docs
Well, the way I read this (http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/), Jim P's costs went down to $10. Nice. Don Jim Owens wrote: > THis link may be useful as well: > > http://www.freeframers.org/archive/01/msg01023.html > > > Pinkham, Jim wrote: > >> Thanks to all for good ideas thus far. I can give a partial answer to Rene's >> question based on a quick Google search: >> >> "Participants in the upcoming FrameMaker Template Design seminars receive a >> license for CudSpan's TemplateMapper plug-in for FrameMaker/Windows ($200 >> value)." >> >> This is apparently a current fringe for attending MicroType training, >> http://www.microtype.com/training/FMTemplateDesign.pdf. >> >> Jim >> >> >> >> >> From: Rene Stephenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 1:55 PM >> To: Fred Ridder; Pinkham, Jim; framers@lists.frameusers.com >> Subject: Re: Of Templates and Legacy Docs >> >> >> Nope, but you would need to tell him (and the rest of us who have been >> searching for it for a couple of years now since CudSpan went off-line and >> Mr. Despopoulos dropped out of virtual visability) how we can purchase it >> nowadays. >> >> Please... Pretty please with sugar on top >> >> >> >> Rene L. Stephenson >> >> >> - Original Message >> Fred Ridder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> responded: >> >> Well, I won't go into any discussion of how many hours of your time you >> would need to save to pay for the $200 cost of Template Mapper... >> ... >> _ >> Change the world with e-mail. Join the i¢m Initiative from Microsoft. >> http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?source=EML_WL_ChangeWorld >> ___ >> >> >> You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To unsubscribe send a blank email to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> or visit >> http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rinnie1%40yahoo.com >> >> Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit >> http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >> >> ___ >> >> >> You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To unsubscribe send a blank email to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> or visit >> http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jowens%40magma.ca >> >> Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit >> http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >> >> >> >> > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/donald.m.rinderknecht%40noaa.gov > > Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- Don Rinderknecht -- KD5MVV Meteorologist Instructor/Developer ~ Warning Decision Training Branch 120 David L. Boren Blvd Suite 2640 Norman, OK 73072 405.325.2805 ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ http://wdtb.noaa.gov ~ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Converting to Word- solution
Daniel Frankham wrote: > I agree with those who suggest saving as RTF - however, when I've done > this (with FrameMaker 7.0 and 7.2), I've had the best results saving as > RTF Japanese. Dodd, Frank J replied: > Japanese might work.. I could then run it through Babel fish and paste > it too a word document. Umm, no... that's not how it works. For several versions of FM, the RTF Japanese filters (both import and export, I believe) came from a different vendor than the regular RTF filters and were much more robust. File imports/exports that failed or gave poor results using the regular RTF filters would often work much better using the RTF Japanese filters instead. The RTF Japanese filters handle Western characters just fine. They certainly don't translate your document into Japanese. :-) Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Of Templates and Legacy Docs
THis link may be useful as well: http://www.freeframers.org/archive/01/msg01023.html Pinkham, Jim wrote: > Thanks to all for good ideas thus far. I can give a partial answer to Rene's > question based on a quick Google search: > > "Participants in the upcoming FrameMaker Template Design seminars receive a > license for CudSpan's TemplateMapper plug-in for FrameMaker/Windows ($200 > value)." > > This is apparently a current fringe for attending MicroType training, > http://www.microtype.com/training/FMTemplateDesign.pdf. > > Jim > > > > > From: Rene Stephenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 1:55 PM > To: Fred Ridder; Pinkham, Jim; framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: Of Templates and Legacy Docs > > > Nope, but you would need to tell him (and the rest of us who have been > searching for it for a couple of years now since CudSpan went off-line and > Mr. Despopoulos dropped out of virtual visability) how we can purchase it > nowadays. > > Please... Pretty please with sugar on top > > > > Rene L. Stephenson > > > - Original Message > Fred Ridder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> responded: > > Well, I won't go into any discussion of how many hours of your time you > would need to save to pay for the $200 cost of Template Mapper... > ... > _ > Change the world with e-mail. Join the i¢m Initiative from Microsoft. > http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?source=EML_WL_ChangeWorld > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rinnie1%40yahoo.com > > Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jowens%40magma.ca > > Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Black frame on OLE objects in PDF
Hi Yves: I am experiencing the same issue with an Excel OLE object & was wondering whether you ever found a solution to this vexing problem. I have a doc that has been translated from English to French & the Excel tables were edited to insert the translated material. The original English version of the file prints perfectly, but if I edit the Excel objects in either language I get the black frame you described. I would be most grateful for any insight you can offer. Thanks very much! Alison Alison Carrico IDTP Manager Adams Globalization a division of Translations.com 10435 Burnet Road Suite 125 Austin, TX 78758 t +1 512.615.5119 | f +1 512.821.1888 www.adamsglobalization.com Celebrating 25 Years of Excellence! Adams Globalization (AG), a division of Translations.com (TDC) Confidentiality Notice: This message and all attachments from AG-TDC are intended solely for the use of the addressees shown above. They may contain confidential and/or proprietary trade secret information not to be disclosed to others under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you are hereby notified that the copying, use or distribution of any information or materials transmitted in or with this message is strictly prohibited. If you received this message by mistake, please immediately contact me at (512) 821-1818 and destroy the original message. Thank you. -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+acarrico=adamsglobalization.com at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+acarrico=adamsglobalization.com at lists.frameusers .com] On Behalf Of Yves Barbion Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 9:01 AM To: Frame Users Subject: Black frame on OLE objects in PDF Hi Framers, I include a part of a spreadsheet in FrameMaker as OLE object (copy in Excel, paste link in FM). When I create a PDF, a black frame is placed on top of the OLE object in my PDF file. Is this a known bug? I've tested this with FrameMaker 7.2p158 + Acrobat Distiller 6.0 and FrameMaker 8, both with the same results. Any ideas? -- Yves Barbion Documentation Architect Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as acarrico at adamsglobalization.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/acarrico%40adamsglob alization.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Of Templates and Legacy Docs
Thanks to all for good ideas thus far. I can give a partial answer to Rene's question based on a quick Google search: "Participants in the upcoming FrameMaker Template Design seminars receive a license for CudSpan's TemplateMapper plug-in for FrameMaker/Windows ($200 value)." This is apparently a current fringe for attending MicroType training, http://www.microtype.com/training/FMTemplateDesign.pdf. Jim From: Rene Stephenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 1:55 PM To: Fred Ridder; Pinkham, Jim; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Of Templates and Legacy Docs Nope, but you would need to tell him (and the rest of us who have been searching for it for a couple of years now since CudSpan went off-line and Mr. Despopoulos dropped out of virtual visability) how we can purchase it nowadays. Please... Pretty please with sugar on top Rene L. Stephenson - Original Message Fred Ridder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> responded: Well, I won't go into any discussion of how many hours of your time you would need to save to pay for the $200 cost of Template Mapper... ... _ Change the world with e-mail. Join the i’m Initiative from Microsoft. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?source=EML_WL_ChangeWorld ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rinnie1%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Converting to Word- solution
Japanese might work.. I could then run it through Babel fish and paste it too a word document. I found a work around... Thanks all for the suggestions and I think I edumacated some higher ups at the same time. Frank -Original Message- From: Daniel Frankham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 9:43 PM To: Dodd, Frank J; Framers Subject: RE: Converting to Word I agree with those who suggest saving as RTF - however, when I've done this (with FrameMaker 7.0 and 7.2), I've had the best results saving as RTF Japanese. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dodd, Frank > J > Sent: Thursday, 22 May 2008 11:39 PM > To: Framers > Subject: Converting to Word > > > I have a small set of documents that I wish to convert to Microsoft > Word format. They are work instructions with graphics attached - no > external links. I have tried the Save as technique and it just locks > up Framemaker. > > Short of retyping the documents does anybody know of a way to convert > them to MS Word. We are not allowed to purchase outside software or > plugins to make the process easier. > > \God forbid we do something that makes us more efficient. > That's sarcasm. > > > Frank ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Of Templates and Legacy Docs
Nope, but you would need to tell him (and the rest of us who have been searching for it for a couple of years now since CudSpan went off-line and Mr. Despopoulos dropped out of virtual visability) how we can purchase it nowadays. Please... Pretty please with sugar on top Rene L. Stephenson - Original Message Fred Ridder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> responded: Well, I won't go into any discussion of how many hours of your time you would need to save to pay for the $200 cost of Template Mapper... ... _ Change the world with e-mail. Join the i’m Initiative from Microsoft. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?source=EML_WL_ChangeWorld ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rinnie1%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Of Templates and Legacy Docs
Nope, but you would need to tell him (and the rest of us who have been searching for it for a couple of years now since CudSpan went off-line and Mr. Despopoulos dropped out of virtual visability) how we can purchase it nowadays. Please... Pretty please with sugar on top Rene L. Stephenson - Original Message Fred Ridder responded: Well, I won't go into any discussion of how many hours of your time you would need to save to pay for the $200 cost of Template Mapper... ... _ Change the world with e-mail. Join the i?m Initiative from Microsoft. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?source=EML_WL_ChangeWorld ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as rinnie1 at yahoo.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rinnie1%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Of Templates and Legacy Docs
If you're just changing the names of the tags, or consistently reassigning some tags as other tags, consider saving the files as MIF and doing a search-and-replace on the tag names. Is this a $0 solution? well, there's a cost involved in learning enough MIF to do it. If you can spare a week or so, that's probably all you'd need (depending on the complexity of the problem). Then there's the time it takes to alter the MIF files. Are you _sure_ you can't find $200? Pinkham, Jim wrote: > Hello, all -- > > I've just spent a couple of days getting our standard manual template > tweaked and polished and localized from its timeworn Germanic origins > (we inherited from our corporate parent across the pond). Now the task > is to begin applying the template to new docs that are often based upon > old manuals that used the old template. Looks like Template Mapper would > be perfect for the task, but let's assume that no matter how wise and > cost-effective and practical it might be, that $200 is not an option in > the near future. So let's not go there. We'll just postulate that's a > good idea, and leave it at that. For discussion's sake, this is a $0 > project. > > The question is this: Just using the normal set of tools that comes with > Frame (7.1 on Windows XP SP-2), and possibly freeware, what is the > fastest, most effective way to migrate a new template into old docs. Am > I doomed to paragraph-by-paragraph, table-by-table, and cell-by-cell > transformations? Or are there better alternatives? > > Jim > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jowens%40magma.ca > > Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Of Templates and Legacy Docs
Jim Pinkham asked: > The question is this: Just using the normal set of tools that comes with > Frame (7.1 on Windows XP SP-2), and possibly freeware, what is the > fastest, most effective way to migrate a new template into old docs. Am > I doomed to paragraph-by-paragraph, table-by-table, and cell-by-cell > transformations? Or are there better alternatives? Well, I won't go into any discussion of how many hours of your time you would need to save to pay for the $200 cost of Template Mapper... You are not doomed to a paragraph-by-paragraph reformatting exercise. Start by identifying the mapping of old styles to new. For all cases of 1-to-1 mappings (exactly one old style maps to a particular new style) just rename the old style before you import the new template and its formatting. For cases where more than one old style maps to a new style, you can rename only one of the old styles (pick the most prevalent one) and you'll need to retag the the remaining paragraphs to the new style name. Then once everything is tagged with new names, simply import the new template. Not terrible, but the tool would be faster and much less boring. _ Change the world with e-mail. Join the i’m Initiative from Microsoft. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?source=EML_WL_ChangeWorld ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Of Templates and Legacy Docs
Hello, all -- I've just spent a couple of days getting our standard manual template tweaked and polished and localized from its timeworn Germanic origins (we inherited from our corporate parent across the pond). Now the task is to begin applying the template to new docs that are often based upon old manuals that used the old template. Looks like Template Mapper would be perfect for the task, but let's assume that no matter how wise and cost-effective and practical it might be, that $200 is not an option in the near future. So let's not go there. We'll just postulate that's a good idea, and leave it at that. For discussion's sake, this is a $0 project. The question is this: Just using the normal set of tools that comes with Frame (7.1 on Windows XP SP-2), and possibly freeware, what is the fastest, most effective way to migrate a new template into old docs. Am I doomed to paragraph-by-paragraph, table-by-table, and cell-by-cell transformations? Or are there better alternatives? Jim ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Black frame on OLE objects in PDF
Hi Yves: I am experiencing the same issue with an Excel OLE object & was wondering whether you ever found a solution to this vexing problem. I have a doc that has been translated from English to French & the Excel tables were edited to insert the translated material. The original English version of the file prints perfectly, but if I edit the Excel objects in either language I get the black frame you described. I would be most grateful for any insight you can offer. Thanks very much! Alison Alison Carrico IDTP Manager Adams Globalization a division of Translations.com 10435 Burnet Road Suite 125 Austin, TX 78758 t +1 512.615.5119 | f +1 512.821.1888 www.adamsglobalization.com Celebrating 25 Years of Excellence! Adams Globalization (AG), a division of Translations.com (TDC) Confidentiality Notice: This message and all attachments from AG-TDC are intended solely for the use of the addressees shown above. They may contain confidential and/or proprietary trade secret information not to be disclosed to others under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you are hereby notified that the copying, use or distribution of any information or materials transmitted in or with this message is strictly prohibited. If you received this message by mistake, please immediately contact me at (512) 821-1818 and destroy the original message. Thank you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] .com] On Behalf Of Yves Barbion Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 9:01 AM To: Frame Users Subject: Black frame on OLE objects in PDF Hi Framers, I include a part of a spreadsheet in FrameMaker as OLE object (copy in Excel, paste link in FM). When I create a PDF, a black frame is placed on top of the OLE object in my PDF file. Is this a known bug? I've tested this with FrameMaker 7.2p158 + Acrobat Distiller 6.0 and FrameMaker 8, both with the same results. Any ideas? -- Yves Barbion Documentation Architect Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/acarrico%40adamsglob alization.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Converting to Word- solution
Japanese might work.. I could then run it through Babel fish and paste it too a word document. I found a work around... Thanks all for the suggestions and I think I edumacated some higher ups at the same time. Frank -Original Message- From: Daniel Frankham [mailto:daniel.frank...@saabsystems.com.au] Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 9:43 PM To: Dodd, Frank J; Framers Subject: RE: Converting to Word I agree with those who suggest saving as RTF - however, when I've done this (with FrameMaker 7.0 and 7.2), I've had the best results saving as RTF Japanese. > -Original Message- > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Dodd, Frank > J > Sent: Thursday, 22 May 2008 11:39 PM > To: Framers > Subject: Converting to Word > > > I have a small set of documents that I wish to convert to Microsoft > Word format. They are work instructions with graphics attached - no > external links. I have tried the Save as technique and it just locks > up Framemaker. > > Short of retyping the documents does anybody know of a way to convert > them to MS Word. We are not allowed to purchase outside software or > plugins to make the process easier. > > \God forbid we do something that makes us more efficient. > That's sarcasm. > > > Frank