Re: Framers Digest, Vol 34, Issue 12

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Running headers calling on formatted variables

[mathieu jacquet]

Hi all,

I'm using FM 7.2 on XP.

In my document, running headers call on Heading1. I sometimes add in 1st-level 
titles (Heading1) the name of the product, which is a ProductName variable 
formatted in a certain way (half of the name blue, the other purple).

When the product name appears in the header, it is just black.

Any clue?

Thank you all for your help,

Mathieu.

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Automatic generation of inner front with chapter tabs

[Andersen, Verner Engell VEA]

The chapters in our books are divided by index tab dividers. Right now
the inner front always has 17 tabs. The tabs are represented by a table
with automatically generated list of markers from each chapter.
 
I think it will be too costly to deliver 17 index tab divider for
manuals with only 8 or 12 chapters.
 
Is it possible automatically to generate an inner front page where I can
select between say 8, 12 and 17 index tab dividers. 
 
I know that I could have 3 different inner front pages, but then I and
all translators would have to replace one front page with another when
the number of chapter increase from for example 8 to 9 chapters.
 
I use unstructured Framemaker 8. The solution that I choose should also
work for translators with say a Japanese Framemaker/OS.
 
 
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Re: Running headers calling on formatted variables

[Yves Barbion]

Hi Mathieu

I guess you are using a character format in the middle of your variable
definition, for example blueFramepurpleMaker?

I have tested this and, indeed, some properties of the character format
(font family, weight, spread, stretch, superscript) are also displayed in
the Running H/F, others are not (font size, color).

Is this a bug or by design?


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Instructor
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On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 10:26 AM, mathieu jacquet [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:


 Hi all,

 I'm using FM 7.2 on XP.

 In my document, running headers call on Heading1. I sometimes add in
 1st-level titles (Heading1) the name of the product, which is a ProductName
 variable formatted in a certain way (half of the name blue, the other
 purple).

 When the product name appears in the header, it is just black.

 Any clue?

 Thank you all for your help,

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Re: why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct?

[ActionA]

 
Hi,
 
Would you be willing to clarify this for the font novice? From what I read  
into your statement, it appears that Type 1 fonts (the old Adobe PS fonts) are  
being translated in the background into Unicode. Is that accurate? Is there  
anything special I need to do? Or, can I just go on to use Frame and the fonts 
I  have (a combination of PS and TrueType fonts) just the way I always have?
 
Thanks,
Nancy Adams
 
In a message dated 8/14/2008 1:28:56 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

FrameMaker 8 continues to support use of Type 1 fonts (I assume that  is
what you mean by PS fonts) as well as TrueType and OpenType fonts.  The
character set of the Type 1 fonts are mapped into Unicode.

You  don't say what type of font errors you are getting (missing  fonts?
mismapped characters? What?). If you provide some specific  information
including the exact font names, source of such fonts, etc. and  perhaps
a sample document, we could perhaps better analyze the problem you  are
experiencing and offer some assistance.

- Dov

 -Original Message-
 From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 7:55  PM

 Hello:

 I know FM8 uses unicode, rather than  PS fonts as before, but in an entire
 group of 10+ writers, some of us  are getting font errors, and some are
 not, now that we're all using  the ATCS.

 Further, many of the errors are for things like  Helvetica, which is there
 anyway!

 Is there a pointer  to an explanation of why this is happening, and how to
 fix the  problem?  Sorry if this is already covered, but I couldn't locate
  it in the framers archives.


 Kanti  Mann
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Re: why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct?

[Stuart Rogers]

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 Hello: 
 
 I know FM8 uses unicode, rather than PS fonts as before, but in an entire 
 group of 10+ writers, some of us are getting font errors, and some are 
 not, now that we're all using the ATCS. 
 
 Further, many of the errors are for things like Helvetica, which is there 
 anyway!
 


More details, as requested by Dov, would be extremely helpful.  In the 
meantime:  do all of your installations have the Adobe PDF printer 
driver set as default, or do some of them have a physical printer set as 
default?  Physical printers' drivers often report their resident fonts 
to the operating system, which then treats them as though they are 
locally installed.  That can cause font errors in FM.

HTH,

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RE: why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct?

[Dov Isaacs]

Nancy,

I absolutely did NOT say than any fonts are being translated either in the
background or otherwise. FrameMaker uses Type 1 fonts (please stop using the
term PostScript fonts - it means nothing since by definition, TrueType fonts
are every bit as much PostScript fonts as are Type 1 fonts) directly mapping
the glyphs in such fonts to Unicode. The same type of mapping occurs with
TrueType fonts and OpenType fonts.

You continue to use FrameMaker with Type 1 fonts the same way you did in the 
past.

The only problem that I am aware of is where Type 1 fonts that had strange,
undocumented encodings are mapped into Unicode. This is also a problem with 
every
other Adobe application as well. (Example, mapping the Hebrew alphabet into the
Latin A through Z in a font for ease of keying. That is impossible for any 
Unicode-
based application to effectively deal with.)

- Dov

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 6:35 AM
 To: Dov Isaacs; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Re: why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct?

 Hi,

 Would you be willing to clarify this for the font novice? From what I read 
 into your statement, it
 appears that Type 1 fonts (the old Adobe PS fonts) are being translated in 
 the background into
 Unicode. Is that accurate? Is there anything special I need to do? Or, can I 
 just go on to use Frame
 and the fonts I have (a combination of PS and TrueType fonts) just the way I 
 always have?

 Thanks,
 Nancy Adams

 In a message dated 8/14/2008 1:28:56 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL 
 PROTECTED] writes:
 FrameMaker 8 continues to support use of Type 1 fonts (I assume that is
 what you mean by PS fonts) as well as TrueType and OpenType fonts. The
 character set of the Type 1 fonts are mapped into Unicode.

 You don't say what type of font errors you are getting (missing fonts?
 mismapped characters? What?). If you provide some specific information
 including the exact font names, source of such fonts, etc. and perhaps
 a sample document, we could perhaps better analyze the problem you are
 experiencing and offer some assistance.

 - Dov

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 7:55 PM
 
  Hello:
 
  I know FM8 uses unicode, rather than PS fonts as before, but in an entire
  group of 10+ writers, some of us are getting font errors, and some are
  not, now that we're all using the ATCS.
 
  Further, many of the errors are for things like Helvetica, which is there
  anyway!
 
  Is there a pointer to an explanation of why this is happening, and how to
  fix the problem?  Sorry if this is already covered, but I couldn't locate
  it in the framers archives.
 
 
  Kanti Mann
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RE: Running headers calling on formatted variables

[Baruch Brodersen]

Yves and Mathieu,
 
Unfortunately you can only apply color to an entire running header-footer. It 
is possible though to create the effect you're after, but you have to sacrifice 
using a user-defined variable in the heading. Since you only occasionally need 
it, it might be feasible.

I'm sending a sample .fm file in a separate mail since what is described below 
is a little complex.
 
1. Create blue and purple character formats.
2. Create four paragraph formats based on Heading1:

ProductNameHeading1 = Heading1 As Is + Runin Head, empty space punct.
ProductName1  = Heading1 AsIs + color Blue + Runin Head
ProductName2  = Heading1 AsIs + color Purple + Runin Head, 1 empyt space punct.
AfterProdName3 = Heading1 AsIs (no runin head)
 
3. In your header use four variables in your header: 
 Running H/F 2  $paratext[Heading1,ProductNameHeading1] + 1 empty space   
 Running H/F 5  blue$paratext[ProductName1] 
 Running H/F 6  purple$paratext[ProductName2] + 1 empty space
 Running H/F 7  $paratext[AfterProdName3]
 
This will create a Heading 1 look-a-like that will include a two-color product 
name in both the heading and header. One problem remains however, and that is 
that you have to dispose of the text in Running H/F 5-7 with the next 
appearance of a stand alone Heading 1. To do that:

4. Create an anchored frame in the next Heading 1. Position the frame so 
outside the column. Inside the frame draw a textbox with three empty paragraph. 
Apply the ProductName1, ProductName2, and AfterProdName3 formats to them. That 
will wash out the Running H/F 5-7 in the Header and leave only Heading 1.

You can copy and paste the anchored frame as many times as you need it, or use 
AutoText from Silicon Prairie to drop it in whenever needed.


B a r u c h   B r o d e r s e n
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Yves Barbion wrote:
 
Hi Mathieu
 
I guess you are using a character format in the middle of your variable 
definition, for example blueFramepurpleMaker?
 
I have tested this and, indeed, some properties of the character format (font 
family, weight, spread, stretch, superscript) are also displayed in the Running 
H/F, others are not (font size, color).
 
Is this a bug or by design?
 
--
Yves Barbion * Managing Director Scripto * Adobe-Certified FrameMaker 
Instructor www.scripto.nu http://www.scripto.nu 
 

 
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 10:26 AM, mathieu jacquet [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
 
Hi all,
 
I'm using FM 7.2 on XP.
 
In my document, running headers call on Heading1. I sometimes add in 1st-level 
titles (Heading1) the name of the product, which is a ProductName variable 
formatted in a certain way (half of the name blue, the other purple).
 
When the product name appears in the header, it is just black.
 
Any clue?
 
Thank you all for your help,
 
Mathieu.
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Menu item Fonts lost in Format drop down menu

[Bodvar Bjorgvinsson]

FM 7.2 no longer shows the Font menu item in Format. I have checked
various files, and, oddly enough I found an almost complete duplicate
of FrameMaker 7.2 in C:\tmp. I don't remember having saved it there
and I don't think anyone would do such a thing in my absence.

I think the correct file for this must be the menus.cfg which holds
these lines about this item:

Add FormatMenu Menu !MakerMainMenu
   Add FontMenu  Menu FormatMenu
  Add !ShowFontChoicesMenu FontMenu

and then:
   Add SizeMenu  Menu FormatMenu
which is the first menu item showed in the drop-down list.

Can anyone shed a ligh on this? Is there anything missing

OS: XP SP2.

Thanks beforehand,

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Re: why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct?

[ActionA]

 
Hi Dov,
 
Thanks for responding. I apologize for my clear ignorance on the topic of  
fonts. I feel better now that I can safely use the fonts I have with Frame  8.
 
Thanks,
Nancy Adams
 
 
In a message dated 8/14/2008 12:56:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Nancy,

I absolutely did NOT say than any fonts are being  translated either in the
background or otherwise. FrameMaker uses Type 1  fonts (please stop using the
term PostScript fonts - it means nothing  since by definition, TrueType 
fonts
are every bit as much PostScript  fonts as are Type 1 fonts) directly 
mapping
the glyphs in such fonts to  Unicode. The same type of mapping occurs with
TrueType fonts and OpenType  fonts.

You continue to use FrameMaker with Type 1 fonts the same way  you did in the 
past.

The only problem that I am aware of is where Type  1 fonts that had strange,
undocumented encodings are mapped into Unicode.  This is also a problem with 
every
other Adobe application as well.  (Example, mapping the Hebrew alphabet into 
the
Latin A through Z in a font  for ease of keying. That is impossible for any 
Unicode-
based application  to effectively deal with.)

-  Dov

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 6:35  AM
 To: Dov Isaacs; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Re:  why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct?

  Hi,

 Would you be willing to clarify this for the font novice?  From what I read 
into your statement, it
 appears that Type 1 fonts  (the old Adobe PS fonts) are being translated in 
the background into
  Unicode. Is that accurate? Is there anything special I need to do? Or, can 
I  just go on to use Frame
 and the fonts I have (a combination of PS and  TrueType fonts) just the way 
I always have?

 Thanks,
  Nancy Adams

 In a message dated 8/14/2008 1:28:56 A.M. Eastern  Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 FrameMaker 8 continues to  support use of Type 1 fonts (I assume that is
 what you mean by PS  fonts) as well as TrueType and OpenType fonts. The
 character set of  the Type 1 fonts are mapped into Unicode.

 You don't say what  type of font errors you are getting (missing fonts?
 mismapped  characters? What?). If you provide some specific information
 including  the exact font names, source of such fonts, etc. and perhaps
 a sample  document, we could perhaps better analyze the problem you are
  experiencing and offer some assistance.

   - Dov

  -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, August 13,  2008 7:55 PM
 
  Hello:
 
  I know  FM8 uses unicode, rather than PS fonts as before, but in an entire
   group of 10+ writers, some of us are getting font errors, and some  are
  not, now that we're all using the ATCS.
 
   Further, many of the errors are for things like Helvetica, which is  
there
  anyway!
 
  Is there a pointer to an  explanation of why this is happening, and how to
  fix the  problem?  Sorry if this is already covered, but I couldn't locate
   it in the framers archives.
 
 
  Kanti  Mann


 



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RE: why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct?

[John Sgammato]

I apologize for my clear ignorance on the topic of fonts. 

You're not the only ignorant one here. It sure would be nice if somebody
knowledgeable were to pen a comprehensive article on the subject of font
types and FM for Intercom. But I am certianly not knowledgeable in the
subject; like many of us, I stick with what I know and hope nothing goes
wrong.

john
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Framers Digest, Vol 34, Issue 12

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Running headers calling on formatted variables

[mathieu jacquet]

Hi all,

I'm using FM 7.2 on XP.

In my document, running headers call on Heading1. I sometimes add in 1st-level 
titles (Heading1) the name of the product, which is a ProductName variable 
formatted in a certain way (half of the name blue, the other purple).

When the product name appears in the header, it is just black.

Any clue?

Thank you all for your help,

Mathieu.

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Automatic generation of inner front with chapter tabs

[Andersen, Verner Engell VEA]

The chapters in our books are divided by index tab dividers. Right now
the inner front always has 17 tabs. The tabs are represented by a table
with automatically generated list of markers from each chapter.

I think it will be too costly to deliver 17 index tab divider for
manuals with only 8 or 12 chapters.

Is it possible automatically to generate an inner front page where I can
select between say 8, 12 and 17 index tab dividers. 

I know that I could have 3 different inner front pages, but then I and
all translators would have to replace one front page with another when
the number of chapter increase from for example 8 to 9 chapters.

I use unstructured Framemaker 8. The solution that I choose should also
work for translators with say a Japanese Framemaker/OS.


Med venlig hilsen - Best regards
Verner Andersen
Technical Writer

Radiometer Medical ApS
Phone +45 3827 3612
Fax +45 3827 2727
verner.andersen at radiometer.dk




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Running headers calling on formatted variables

[Yves Barbion]

Hi Mathieu

I guess you are using a character format in the middle of your variable
definition, for example FrameMaker?

I have tested this and, indeed, some properties of the character format
(font family, weight, spread, stretch, superscript) are also displayed in
the Running H/F, others are not (font size, color).

Is this a bug or "by design"?


-- 
Yves Barbion ? Managing Director Scripto ? Adobe-Certified FrameMaker
Instructor
www.scripto.nu

On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 10:26 AM, mathieu jacquet wrote:

>
> Hi all,
>
> I'm using FM 7.2 on XP.
>
> In my document, running headers call on Heading1. I sometimes add in
> 1st-level titles (Heading1) the name of the product, which is a ProductName
> variable formatted in a certain way (half of the name blue, the other
> purple).
>
> When the product name appears in the header, it is just black.
>
> Any clue?
>
> Thank you all for your help,
>
> Mathieu.
>
> _
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why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct?

[acti...@aol.com]

Hi,

Would you be willing to clarify this for the font novice? From what I read  
into your statement, it appears that Type 1 fonts (the old Adobe PS fonts) are  
being translated in the background into Unicode. Is that accurate? Is there  
anything special I need to do? Or, can I just go on to use Frame and the fonts 
I  have (a combination of PS and TrueType fonts) just the way I always have?

Thanks,
Nancy Adams

In a message dated 8/14/2008 1:28:56 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
isaacs at adobe.com writes:

FrameMaker 8 continues to support use of Type 1 fonts (I assume that  is
what you mean by "PS fonts") as well as TrueType and OpenType fonts.  The
character set of the Type 1 fonts are mapped into Unicode.

You  don't say what type of "font errors" you are getting (missing  fonts?
mismapped characters? What?). If you provide some specific  information
including the exact font names, source of such fonts, etc. and  perhaps
a sample document, we could perhaps better analyze the problem you  are
experiencing and offer some assistance.

- Dov

> -Original Message-
> From:  Kanti.Mann at schange.com
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 7:55  PM
>
> Hello:
>
> I know FM8 uses unicode, rather than  PS fonts as before, but in an entire
> group of 10+ writers, some of us  are getting font errors, and some are
> not, now that we're all using  the ATCS.
>
> Further, many of the errors are for things like  Helvetica, which is there
> anyway!
>
> Is there a pointer  to an explanation of why this is happening, and how to
> fix the  problem?  Sorry if this is already covered, but I couldn't locate
>  it in the framers archives.
>
>
> Kanti  Mann
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why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct?

[Stuart Rogers]

Kanti.Mann at schange.com wrote:
> Hello: 
> 
> I know FM8 uses unicode, rather than PS fonts as before, but in an entire 
> group of 10+ writers, some of us are getting font errors, and some are 
> not, now that we're all using the ATCS. 
> 
> Further, many of the errors are for things like Helvetica, which is there 
> anyway!
> 


More details, as requested by Dov, would be extremely helpful.  In the 
meantime:  do all of your installations have the Adobe PDF printer 
driver set as default, or do some of them have a physical printer set as 
default?  Physical printers' drivers often report their resident fonts 
to the operating system, which then treats them as though they are 
locally installed.  That can cause font errors in FM.

HTH,

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why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct?

[Dov Isaacs]

Nancy,

I absolutely did NOT say than any fonts are being "translated" either in the
background or otherwise. FrameMaker uses Type 1 fonts (please stop using the
term "PostScript fonts" - it means nothing since by definition, TrueType fonts
are every bit as much "PostScript fonts" as are Type 1 fonts) directly mapping
the glyphs in such fonts to Unicode. The same type of mapping occurs with
TrueType fonts and OpenType fonts.

You continue to use FrameMaker with Type 1 fonts the same way you did in the 
past.

The only problem that I am aware of is where Type 1 fonts that had strange,
undocumented encodings are mapped into Unicode. This is also a problem with 
every
other Adobe application as well. (Example, mapping the Hebrew alphabet into the
Latin A through Z in a font for ease of keying. That is impossible for any 
Unicode-
based application to effectively deal with.)

- Dov

> -Original Message-
> From: ActionA at aol.com [mailto:ActionA at aol.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 6:35 AM
> To: Dov Isaacs; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct?
>
> Hi,
>
> Would you be willing to clarify this for the font novice? From what I read 
> into your statement, it
> appears that Type 1 fonts (the old Adobe PS fonts) are being translated in 
> the background into
> Unicode. Is that accurate? Is there anything special I need to do? Or, can I 
> just go on to use Frame
> and the fonts I have (a combination of PS and TrueType fonts) just the way I 
> always have?
>
> Thanks,
> Nancy Adams
>
> In a message dated 8/14/2008 1:28:56 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, isaacs at 
> adobe.com writes:
> FrameMaker 8 continues to support use of Type 1 fonts (I assume that is
> what you mean by "PS fonts") as well as TrueType and OpenType fonts. The
> character set of the Type 1 fonts are mapped into Unicode.
>
> You don't say what type of "font errors" you are getting (missing fonts?
> mismapped characters? What?). If you provide some specific information
> including the exact font names, source of such fonts, etc. and perhaps
> a sample document, we could perhaps better analyze the problem you are
> experiencing and offer some assistance.
>
> - Dov
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Kanti.Mann at schange.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 7:55 PM
> >
> > Hello:
> >
> > I know FM8 uses unicode, rather than PS fonts as before, but in an entire
> > group of 10+ writers, some of us are getting font errors, and some are
> > not, now that we're all using the ATCS.
> >
> > Further, many of the errors are for things like Helvetica, which is there
> > anyway!
> >
> > Is there a pointer to an explanation of why this is happening, and how to
> > fix the problem?  Sorry if this is already covered, but I couldn't locate
> > it in the framers archives.
> >
> >
> > Kanti Mann

Running headers calling on formatted variables

[Baruch Brodersen]

Yves and Mathieu,

Unfortunately you can only apply color to an entire running header-footer. It 
is possible though to create the effect you're after, but you have to sacrifice 
using a user-defined variable in the heading. Since you only occasionally need 
it, it might be feasible.

I'm sending a sample .fm file in a separate mail since what is described below 
is a little complex.

1. Create  and  character formats.
2. Create four paragraph formats based on Heading1:

ProductNameHeading1 = Heading1 As Is + Runin Head, empty space punct.
ProductName1  = Heading1 AsIs + color Blue + Runin Head
ProductName2  = Heading1 AsIs + color Purple + Runin Head, 1 empyt space punct.
AfterProdName3 = Heading1 AsIs (no runin head)

3. In your header use four variables in your header: 
 Running H/F 2  <$paratext[Heading1,ProductNameHeading1]> + 1 empty space   
 Running H/F 5  <$paratext[ProductName1]> 
 Running H/F 6  <$paratext[ProductName2]> + 1 empty space
 Running H/F 7  <$paratext[AfterProdName3]>

This will create a Heading 1 look-a-like that will include a two-color product 
name in both the heading and header. One problem remains however, and that is 
that you have to dispose of the text in Running H/F 5-7 with the next 
appearance of a stand alone Heading 1. To do that:

4. Create an anchored frame in the next Heading 1. Position the frame so 
outside the column. Inside the frame draw a textbox with three empty paragraph. 
Apply the ProductName1, ProductName2, and AfterProdName3 formats to them. That 
will wash out the Running H/F 5-7 in the Header and leave only Heading 1.

You can copy and paste the anchored frame as many times as you need it, or use 
AutoText from Silicon Prairie to drop it in whenever needed.


B a r u c h   B r o d e r s e n
T e c h n i t e x t   D o c u m e n t a t i o n   I n c


**

Yves Barbion wrote:

Hi Mathieu

I guess you are using a character format in the middle of your variable 
definition, for example FrameMaker?

I have tested this and, indeed, some properties of the character format (font 
family, weight, spread, stretch, superscript) are also displayed in the Running 
H/F, others are not (font size, color).

Is this a bug or "by design"?

--
Yves Barbion * Managing Director Scripto * Adobe-Certified FrameMaker 
Instructor www.scripto.nu  



On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 10:26 AM, mathieu jacquet wrote:

Hi all,

I'm using FM 7.2 on XP.

In my document, running headers call on Heading1. I sometimes add in 1st-level 
titles (Heading1) the name of the product, which is a ProductName variable 
formatted in a certain way (half of the name blue, the other purple).

When the product name appears in the header, it is just black.

Any clue?

Thank you all for your help,

Mathieu.

Menu item "Fonts" lost in Format drop down menu

[Bodvar Bjorgvinsson]

FM 7.2 no longer shows the Font menu item in Format. I have checked
various files, and, oddly enough I found an almost complete duplicate
of FrameMaker 7.2 in C:\tmp. I don't remember having saved it there
and I don't think anyone would do such a thing in my absence.

I think the correct file for this must be the "menus.cfg" which holds
these lines about this item:

>
   >
  >

and then:
   >
which is the first menu item showed in the drop-down list.

Can anyone shed a ligh on this? Is there anything missing

OS: XP SP2.

Thanks beforehand,

Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
Supervisor Publishing
Air Atlanta Icelandic


-- 
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 -- Edsel Murphy, dec.

why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct?

[acti...@aol.com]

Hi Dov,

Thanks for responding. I apologize for my clear ignorance on the topic of  
fonts. I feel better now that I can safely use the fonts I have with Frame  8.

Thanks,
Nancy Adams


In a message dated 8/14/2008 12:56:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
isaacs at adobe.com writes:

Nancy,

I absolutely did NOT say than any fonts are being  "translated" either in the
background or otherwise. FrameMaker uses Type 1  fonts (please stop using the
term "PostScript fonts" - it means nothing  since by definition, TrueType 
fonts
are every bit as much "PostScript  fonts" as are Type 1 fonts) directly 
mapping
the glyphs in such fonts to  Unicode. The same type of mapping occurs with
TrueType fonts and OpenType  fonts.

You continue to use FrameMaker with Type 1 fonts the same way  you did in the 
past.

The only problem that I am aware of is where Type  1 fonts that had strange,
undocumented encodings are mapped into Unicode.  This is also a problem with 
every
other Adobe application as well.  (Example, mapping the Hebrew alphabet into 
the
Latin A through Z in a font  for ease of keying. That is impossible for any 
Unicode-
based application  to effectively deal with.)

-  Dov

> -Original Message-
> From: ActionA at aol.com  [mailto:ActionA at aol.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 6:35  AM
> To: Dov Isaacs; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re:  why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct?
>
>  Hi,
>
> Would you be willing to clarify this for the font novice?  From what I read 
into your statement, it
> appears that Type 1 fonts  (the old Adobe PS fonts) are being translated in 
the background into
>  Unicode. Is that accurate? Is there anything special I need to do? Or, can 
I  just go on to use Frame
> and the fonts I have (a combination of PS and  TrueType fonts) just the way 
I always have?
>
> Thanks,
>  Nancy Adams
>
> In a message dated 8/14/2008 1:28:56 A.M. Eastern  Daylight Time, 
isaacs at adobe.com writes:
> FrameMaker 8 continues to  support use of Type 1 fonts (I assume that is
> what you mean by "PS  fonts") as well as TrueType and OpenType fonts. The
> character set of  the Type 1 fonts are mapped into Unicode.
>
> You don't say what  type of "font errors" you are getting (missing fonts?
> mismapped  characters? What?). If you provide some specific information
> including  the exact font names, source of such fonts, etc. and perhaps
> a sample  document, we could perhaps better analyze the problem you are
>  experiencing and offer some assistance.
>
>   - Dov
>
> > -Original Message-
>  > From: Kanti.Mann at schange.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 13,  2008 7:55 PM
> >
> > Hello:
> >
> > I know  FM8 uses unicode, rather than PS fonts as before, but in an entire
>  > group of 10+ writers, some of us are getting font errors, and some  are
> > not, now that we're all using the ATCS.
> >
>  > Further, many of the errors are for things like Helvetica, which is  
there
> > anyway!
> >
> > Is there a pointer to an  explanation of why this is happening, and how to
> > fix the  problem?  Sorry if this is already covered, but I couldn't locate
>  > it in the framers archives.
> >
> >
> > Kanti  Mann






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why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct?

[John Sgammato]

>I apologize for my clear ignorance on the topic of fonts. 

You're not the only ignorant one here. It sure would be nice if somebody
knowledgeable were to pen a comprehensive article on the subject of font
types and FM for Intercom. But I am certianly not knowledgeable in the
subject; like many of us, I stick with what I know and hope nothing goes
wrong.

john