Webinar: Multimedia in PDFs with FM-to-Acrobat TimeSavers + Multimedia Asst (Feb 10)

[Shlomo Perets]

Multimedia in PDFs with FM-to-Acrobat TimeSavers + Multimedia
Assistant Webinar:  Tuesday, February 10, 2009 (10am-11am PST)

Learn how you can embed/link to audio or video files (filmed or
software demos) from PDFs created in FM, without the tedious work
of inserting the link/file and defining playback properties every
time the PDF is updated.

With Multimedia Assistant, you use hypertext markers to define
access (embed or link) to local/web-based multimedia files in all
formats supported by Acrobat/Reader, so that the defined features
are automatically present in the PDF file.
[Feature demos: http://www.microtype.com/ShowcaseMultimedia.html ]

Applicable for FrameMaker/Windows (all versions)

To register to this free one-hour webinar, please write to
timesav...@microtype.com

Shlomo Perets

MicroType * http://www.microtype.com
FrameMaker training/consulting * FM-to-Acrobat TimeSavers/Assistants


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FrameMaker 9 Install Trouble

[Martinek, Carla]

Has anyone else been able to install the new release for FM9?

I downloaded the trial version yesterday, apparently successfully, and
unzipped it this morning. There is no installation or setup.exe file to
be found. Wonder if anyone else had the same problem?

-Carla


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RE: FrameMaker 9 Install Trouble

[Jo Watkiss]

I downloaded and installed the trial yesterday without any problems.  My
download included two files:

Framemaker9_WWEFGJ.exe (1200KB)
Framemaker9_WWEFGJ.7z (1023015KB)

Jo.

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Carla
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Subject: FrameMaker 9 Install Trouble

Has anyone else been able to install the new release for FM9?

I downloaded the trial version yesterday, apparently successfully, and
unzipped it this morning. There is no installation or setup.exe file to
be found. Wonder if anyone else had the same problem?

-Carla


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Re: FrameMaker 9 Install Trouble

[Mike Wickham]

Carla,

I was able to download and install the trial of FM9, but haven't played with 
it yet. The download should give you two files: a 1.17 MB .exe file, and a 
999 MB .7z file. The .exe file extracts the .7z file and then runs an 
installation.

Mike Wickham

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Subject: FrameMaker 9 Install Trouble


 Has anyone else been able to install the new release for FM9?

 I downloaded the trial version yesterday, apparently successfully, and
 unzipped it this morning. There is no installation or setup.exe file to
 be found. Wonder if anyone else had the same problem?

 -Carla


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FM 9 - Sort Order for Paragraphs, F8/F9 keyboard shortcuts

[Martinek, Carla]

One issue that came up during beta testing was the paragraph sort order.
Some of you may have noticed that it changed in one of the FM8 patches.
Many of us created templates that had style names in a particular order
so that we could make easy use of keyboard shortcuts.

Prior to FM8p277, these two styles would sort in this order:

   1_Heading1
   1k_HeadingKit

In FM8p277 and on, they sorted in this order (the underscore came at the
*end* of the sort list, instead of at the beginning):

   1k_HeadingKit
   1_Heading1

In FM9, the catalog sort order can be controlled in two ways through a
flag in maker.ini. The default behavior continues to what was introduced
with 8.0 p277 onwards but the old behavior can be achieved by toggling
this flag.

This can be done by switching  the setting using
SymbolSortingBeforeAlphaNumeric=On in the maker.ini file.

===

You will notice that the F8 and F9 shortcuts DO NOT work the same as
previous versions. If you press F8 or F9, and then a letter or number,
you will go to the first style that starts with that character. In the
following example, pressing b would take you to the b1_body style.
However, previously I could press b3 to select the b3_bullet1 style.
Now you either have to press  b three times, or press b and then the
down arrow twice to get to the b3 style.

b1_body1
b2_body2
b3_bullet1
b4_bullet2
c1_cellbody1

You may or may not find this inconvenient. In our case, this reduced
functionality has basically rendered the keyboard shortcuts useless for
many styles. To get to the c7 style, I'd have to press c seven times, or
c once and the down arrow six times. I might as well use the mouse at
that point. (If you find this intolerable, please let Adobe know. Now
that the release is out, perhaps they can go back and address this
problem and fix it in a patch release.)

OTHERWISE, I find most of the improvements to be quite nice, and most
Framers will be quite comfortable with the new features in a short time.

-Carla
 
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Re: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and new AdobeeLearning Suite

[Rick Quatro]

I am happy about the release of FrameMaker 9 and the Tech Comm Suite 2. 
However, I am suprised by the lack of visibility on Adobe.com. When I go to 
the home page, I see no mention whatsoever of FrameMaker 9. When I click the 
See all products link, there are FrameMaker 8, RoboHelp 7, and Captivate 3 
icons. I would think that with new releases like these, they would be 
featured for a few days on Adobe.com. I understand sales percentages and 
market share, etc., but it certainly wouldn't hurt to feature FrameMaker, 
etc., on the home page for a few days after its release.

Rick

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc
585-659-8267
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*** I work for Adobe Systems, Inc. ***

Hi All, I'm extremely excited to share with you that today we have announced 
the availability of two major Adobe Suites, the new Adobe eLearning 
Suitehttp://www.adobe.com/products/elearningsuite/ and the second version 
of the Technical Communication 
Suitehttp://www.adobe.com/technicalcommunicationsuite/, version 2.

Furthermore, we are also announcing the availability of Adobe Captivate 
4http://www.adobe.com/products/captivate/, FrameMaker 
9http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/ and RoboHelp 
8http://www.adobe.com/products/robohelp/ and I will provide more 
information on these individual products in upcoming blog posts.

Over the next few days, I will be blogging actively on what's new in all of 
these products, but for now, here are some links to various recordings that 
I have put together to help our customers learn what's new and exciting in 
all of these new releases:

Introducing the Adobe eLearning 
Suitehttp://my.adobe.acrobat.com/introducingels/

What's New in the Adobe Technical Communication 
2http://my.adobe.acrobat.com/newintcs2/

What's New in Adobe Captivate 4http://my.adobe.acrobat.com/newincp4/

Sincerely,

RJ Jácquez
Senior Product Evangelist
Adobe Technical Communication Suite
Adobe eLearning Solutions
http://blogs.adobe.com/rjacquez


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Re: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Syed,

2GB of memory is not much for Vista. I would suggest at least 3GB.

Rick Quatro
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585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com

 Hmmm ... I would suggest doing some testing to see if you see what I
 just saw ... I decided to try to duplicate what I was reading here. I
 have a fast Windows laptop and tested moving around a document with the
 arrow keys with, and without, the designer boxes open.
 
 Running FrameMaker 8, latest patch, on (recently loaded) Vista 32bit on
 a Dell Latitude 820 laptop, with a 2.16GHz Core Duo proc, 2GB of memory,
 fast 7200rpm drive.
 
 My results *definitely* confirmed that the cursor movement with the
 arrows is MUCH faster with the designer boxes not visible. Since I have
 a fast computer, I had only seen a bit of sluggishness in the past (I
 keep the Paragraph, Character and Table designer boxes open), but did
 not bother to track it down. However, the difference is sufficiently
 dramatic that I now plan to work with the designer dialog boxes closed!
 Not my preferred mode, fwiw, so I hope Adobe improves this issue.
 
 I attribute this sluggishness to the continuous check and show the
 paragraph and character information in the designer dialog boxes while
 the cursor is being moved around with the arrow keys - something needs
 to be speeded up here for sure!
 
 Thanks for this thread, folks!
 
 Z

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RE: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

[Fred Ridder]

Responding to Syed Hosain, Rick Quatro wrote:
 2GB of memory is not much for Vista. I would suggest at least 3GB.
The 32-bit versions of Vista can only address 3 GB of memory, so more
than that amount doesn't improve performance unless you're running 
the 64-bit (Ultimate) version of Vista.
 
-Fred Ridder
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RE: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

[Syed.Hosain]

Hi, Rick.

In the recent past, after I upgraded to Vista, I examined the actual
physical (i.e., not paged to disk) memory being used while I have had
some large FM documents open, and that was not an issue, as far as I
could tell.

However, I was thinking of bumping the memory up anyway, so I will try
that as an option and also see if it has any effect on the issue
described below - the local Fry's Electronics is having a sale on
notebook memory: 4GB for $35 plus tax right now. Not bad at all!

Z

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From: Rick Quatro [mailto:frameexp...@truevine.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 7:36 AM
To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net);
framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

Hi Syed,

2GB of memory is not much for Vista. I would suggest at least 3GB.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com

 Hmmm ... I would suggest doing some testing to see if you see what I
 just saw ... I decided to try to duplicate what I was reading here. I
 have a fast Windows laptop and tested moving around a document with
the
 arrow keys with, and without, the designer boxes open.
 
 Running FrameMaker 8, latest patch, on (recently loaded) Vista 32bit
on
 a Dell Latitude 820 laptop, with a 2.16GHz Core Duo proc, 2GB of
memory,
 fast 7200rpm drive.
 
 My results *definitely* confirmed that the cursor movement with the
 arrows is MUCH faster with the designer boxes not visible. Since I
have
 a fast computer, I had only seen a bit of sluggishness in the past (I
 keep the Paragraph, Character and Table designer boxes open), but did
 not bother to track it down. However, the difference is sufficiently
 dramatic that I now plan to work with the designer dialog boxes
closed!
 Not my preferred mode, fwiw, so I hope Adobe improves this issue.
 
 I attribute this sluggishness to the continuous check and show the
 paragraph and character information in the designer dialog boxes
while
 the cursor is being moved around with the arrow keys - something needs
 to be speeded up here for sure!
 
 Thanks for this thread, folks!
 
 Z

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RE: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

[Syed.Hosain]

Fred Ridder said:

Ø  The 32-bit versions of Vista can only address 3 GB of memory, so more than 
that amount doesn't improve performance unless you're running the 64-bit 
(Ultimate) version of Vista.

 

Yup! But you don't have to go all the way to Ultimate 64. Just as an FYI, there 
is a Vista Business 64 available as well - a tiny bit cheaper, and still 
supports 4GB (and more) memory.

 

One of the reasons I asked about 64 bit operation a few weeks/months ago on 
this list. J Unfortunately, due to some other driver reasons, I could not 
install that (I had both 32 and 64 bit Vista Business upgrade disks available). 
But I will see if I can do that in the near future since I will be changing my 
laptop for a faster version in a few months - it is acting a bit flaky and 
locking up on me occasionally.

 

Z

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RE: Adobe announces FM9 and Tech Comm Suite 2

[Owen, Clint]

Does anyone know if the PDF review feature will be available in FM 9 by itself, 
if you don't buy the whole TC Suite? We use FM, but not the other components of 
the suite. This feature alone is probably worth the upgrade from FM 7 to 9, but 
I doubt that the company would want to pay for the other applications that we 
won't use.

Thanks,

Clint


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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Maxwell Hoffmann
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 1:33 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Adobe announces FM9 and Tech Comm Suite 2

Adobe officially announced FrameMaker 9 and Technical Communication Suite 2
today:

http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pressroom/pressreleases/200901/012009adobeTe
chCom2.html

I was one of the beta-testers and this product is a true major release.
The most significant upgrade I've seen in well over 10 years. New product 
features will give dramatic ROI and help the product to pay for itself
very quickly.

_ 

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Re: why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct?

[Kanti . Mann]

I never thanked all for their help.  Just recently, I read the article 
from Kevin Siegel's Weekly Skills and Drills about NOT remembering fonts. 
When I opened the docs with that setting, and saved them, and reset the DO 
remember fonts, Frame conveniently forgot all about the missing items. 

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Re: why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct?






kanti.m...@schange.com wrote:
 Hello: 
 
 I know FM8 uses unicode, rather than PS fonts as before, but in an 
entire 
 group of 10+ writers, some of us are getting font errors, and some are 
 not, now that we're all using the ATCS. 
 
 Further, many of the errors are for things like Helvetica, which is 
there 
 anyway!
 


More details, as requested by Dov, would be extremely helpful.  In the 
meantime:  do all of your installations have the Adobe PDF printer 
driver set as default, or do some of them have a physical printer set as 
default?  Physical printers' drivers often report their resident fonts 
to the operating system, which then treats them as though they are 
locally installed.  That can cause font errors in FM.

HTH,

-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
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RE: Adobe announces FM9 and Tech Comm Suite 2

[Fred Ridder]

Clint Owen wrote:
 
 Does anyone know if the PDF review feature will be available in 
 FM 9 by itself, if you don't buy the whole TC Suite? We use FM, 
 but not the other components of the suite. This feature alone is 
 probably worth the upgrade from FM 7 to 9, but I doubt that the 
 company would want to pay for the other applications that we won't use.
I notice that TCS 2.0 includes a version of Acrobat called Acrobat 9.0
Pro Extended, and I suspect that this is the special sauce that makes
the new PDF workflow work. So I suspect that the real question is 
whether that version of Acrobat will be available as a standalone 
product, as well as whether it hooks into the standalone version of 
FrameMaker 9.0. 
 
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RE: Adobe announces FM9 and Tech Comm Suite 2

[Owen, Clint]

My understanding of the review feature was that the reviewers only need
the free Acrobat 9 reader. But maybe we would need the pro extended
version of Acrobat along with FM 9 to get the full functionality? That
would be disappointing.

Clint 


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Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 9:04 AM
To: Owen, Clint; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Adobe announces FM9 and Tech Comm Suite 2


Clint Owen wrote:
 
 Does anyone know if the PDF review feature will be available in FM 9 
 by itself, if you don't buy the whole TC Suite? We use FM, but not the

 other components of the suite. This feature alone is probably worth 
 the upgrade from FM 7 to 9, but I doubt that the company would want to

 pay for the other applications that we won't use.
I notice that TCS 2.0 includes a version of Acrobat called Acrobat 9.0
Pro Extended, and I suspect that this is the special sauce that makes
the new PDF workflow work. So I suspect that the real question is
whether that version of Acrobat will be available as a standalone
product, as well as whether it hooks into the standalone version of
FrameMaker 9.0. 
 
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RE: Adobe announces FM9 and Tech Comm Suite 2

[Kelly McDaniel]

That there is so much confusion about a couple of features that
technical writing professionals express an interest in speaks (deeper)
to what RickQ wrote; that these new releases should be featured on the
Adobe web site. Further, that these features should be described in
language that the intended audience finds unambiguous...regards, Kelly.

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Owen, Clint
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Subject: RE: Adobe announces FM9 and Tech Comm Suite 2

My understanding of the review feature was that the reviewers only need
the free Acrobat 9 reader. But maybe we would need the pro extended
version of Acrobat along with FM 9 to get the full functionality? That
would be disappointing.

Clint 


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Telephone: +1 425-743-8674 | Fax: +1 425-743-8113


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Subject: RE: Adobe announces FM9 and Tech Comm Suite 2


Clint Owen wrote:
 
 Does anyone know if the PDF review feature will be available in FM 9 
 by itself, if you don't buy the whole TC Suite? We use FM, but not the

 other components of the suite. This feature alone is probably worth 
 the upgrade from FM 7 to 9, but I doubt that the company would want to

 pay for the other applications that we won't use.
I notice that TCS 2.0 includes a version of Acrobat called Acrobat 9.0
Pro Extended, and I suspect that this is the special sauce that makes
the new PDF workflow work. So I suspect that the real question is
whether that version of Acrobat will be available as a standalone
product, as well as whether it hooks into the standalone version of
FrameMaker 9.0. 
 
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RE: Adobe announces FM9 and Tech Comm Suite 2

[Syed.Hosain]

Acrobat 9 Pro Extended is indeed available a separate product.

Note: I don't know whether it has the PDF workflow capability in it or
not, or how well it integrates with FrameMaker 9 - when purchased
without TCS 2.0 that is.

Z

Clint Owen wrote:

 Does anyone know if the PDF review feature will be available in 
 FM 9 by itself, if you don't buy the whole TC Suite? We use FM, 
 but not the other components of the suite. This feature alone is 
 probably worth the upgrade from FM 7 to 9, but I doubt that the 
 company would want to pay for the other applications that we won't
use.

Fred Ridder wrote:
 I notice that TCS 2.0 includes a version of Acrobat called Acrobat 9.0
 Pro Extended, and I suspect that this is the special sauce that
makes
 the new PDF workflow work. So I suspect that the real question is 
 whether that version of Acrobat will be available as a standalone 
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RE: Bugs, or features, in FM8

[Martinek, Carla]

OKM 9 U 5 

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shlomo Perets
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Subject: Re: Bugs, or features, in FM8

Oran,

You wrote: (to Austin Meredith, cc'd the list)

I have been using FM8 and Acrobat 8 for some months now without any 
sign of a hyperlink issue. I use cross-references, internal and 
external hyperlinks, TOC's, Indexes. I make lists of markers, elements,

paragraphs, etc. all of which are hot All of the links seem to work 
as intended in PDF. They work both when I use the Save As PDF abd when 
I use the print  distill method. Since we are about to upgrade a very 
large project involving thousands of unique manuals and hundreds of 
thousands of pages monthly, I am curious as to what your workflow/setup

is. If there is a flaw, I have not found it so far. ...

The cross-file linking issue is described at
http://www.microtype.com/FM_bugs.html#FM8UnicodeCrossFileLinks
(together with sample PDFs produced from the same source FM file, using
FM7.2 and FM8.0, and FM8.0+TimeSavers 5.3)

The problem will not be noticed when the PDFs are :
-- accessed locally using Acrobat 8.x, but will be noticed when
cross-file links are activated through a web browser (cross-file links
in a PDF stored in an intranet/internet site) linking
-- viewed in earlier Acrobat versions or some non-Adobe PDFs viewers

Notice that in some cases, internal links are transformed to cross-file
links, which reference the same file as a target. In such a case, links
within the same file won't work when the PDF is viewed through a web
browser.


As to your file lock/unlock issue...

I don't see a problem here, and experience the same behavior in FM7.2
and FM8.0.
In any case, the locking (view only) state has no implications on PDFs
and links.
Links should be tested in PDF, as links that work in FrameMaker may not
work in Acrobat (and sometimes links that don't work in FrameMaker do
work in Acrobat).


Happy New Year!


Shlomo Perets

MicroType, http://www.microtype.com * ToolbarPlus Express for FrameMaker
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Re: Adobe announces FM9 and Tech Comm Suite 2

[Scott White]

I have been using the trial version with the sole purpose of seeing  
how well the windows cmyk support is.
It is working great so far. I separated my file out and and I got four  
plates per page, each showing which plate it was. Just what I wanted.
This has always been a big drawback for me; my clients can't do four- 
color printing very easily like in InDesign.
Nice job, so far.

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On Jan 21, 2009, at 10:49 AM, Owen, Clint wrote:

 Does anyone know if the PDF review feature will be available in FM 9  
 by itself, if you don't buy the whole TC Suite? We use FM, but not  
 the other components of the suite. This feature alone is probably  
 worth the upgrade from FM 7 to 9, but I doubt that the company would  
 want to pay for the other applications that we won't use.

 Thanks,

 Clint


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 Electronics | Telephone: +1 425-743-8674 | Fax: +1 425-743-8113


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 ] On Behalf Of Maxwell Hoffmann
 Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 1:33 PM
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Adobe announces FM9 and Tech Comm Suite 2

 Adobe officially announced FrameMaker 9 and Technical Communication  
 Suite 2
 today:

 http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pressroom/pressreleases/200901/012009adobeTe
 chCom2.html

 I was one of the beta-testers and this product is a true major  
 release.
 The most significant upgrade I've seen in well over 10 years. New  
 product features will give dramatic ROI and help the product to pay  
 for itself
 very quickly.

 _

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RE: Bugs, or features, in FM8

[Martinek, Carla]

I was cleaning my keyboard, and accidentally dropped something on it. It
opened a bunch of windows, and apparently sent this email. 

Please ignore.




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Subject: RE: Bugs, or features, in FM8

OKM 9 U 5
 
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RE: Bugs, or features, in FM8

[Lea Rush]

Excuse me? I don't understand this.

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Re: FM 9 - Sort Order for Paragraphs, F8/F9 keyboard shortcuts

[Alan Litchfield]

Thanks Carla,

On 22/01/2009, at 3:53 AM, Martinek, Carla wrote:


 ===

 You will notice that the F8 and F9 shortcuts DO NOT work the same as
 previous versions.

This is really really bad. So what you're saying is that it only  
responds to the first letter you press and if you press the second it  
then jumps to the style that starts with that, if there is one?

Sorry, but I have never had any faith in Adobe's desire to listen. In  
general our requests for changes have gone unheard/ignored.

I think that may well be a deal breaker for me - all the other good  
stuff aside. I use FM purely as a production tool. I use it because it  
is not a DTP app. and I need to get through large amounts of text  
without fussing with the program. This changes renders FM about as  
useful for me as InDesign.

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Re: FM 9 - Sort Order for Paragraphs, F8/F9 keyboard shortcuts

[Jim Owens]

Martinek, Carla wrote:

[stuff deleted]

 ===
 
 You will notice that the F8 and F9 shortcuts DO NOT work the same as
 previous versions. . .  

  . . . To get to the c7 style, I'd have to press c seven times, or
 c once and the down arrow six times. I might as well use the mouse at
 that point. (If you find this intolerable, please let Adobe know. Now
 that the release is out, perhaps they can go back and address this
 problem and fix it in a patch release.)

Maybe they will fix it in FM10, thus giving us a good reason to buy that 
release. . .

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RE: FM 9 - Sort Order for Paragraphs, F8/F9 keyboard shortcuts

[Martinek, Carla]

-Original Message-
 This is really really bad. So what you're saying is that 
 it only responds to the first letter you press and if you 
 press the second it then jumps to the style that starts 
 with that, if there is one?

Exactly.  If you type t2 and press enter, the first style starting
with a t will highlight, and then it switches to the first heading
style that starts with the number 2, and enter will select the 2
style.

 Sorry, but I have never had any faith in Adobe's desire to listen. 
 In general our requests for changes have gone unheard/ignored.

We tried to tell them this during beta. According to the developers, FM9
is built on a whole new platform, and they were unable to duplicate
exactly some of the features we've used for years. They finally listened
when we told them that the para sort order was a big issue, and they
provided the option to change it in the last beta build. Several of us
said that the default setting for SymbolSortingBeforeAlphaNumeric in the
maker.ini file should be ON, not OFF, but at least we CAN change it.

 I think that may well be a deal breaker for me - all the other good
stuff aside.

Please, file your comments with Adobe. Let them know that YOU find this
a deal-breaker, and why.

Now, all that said, a couple of the beta testers who write FrameScripts
said they could probably come up with a script to solve this issue. I'd
certainly pay for the script if they do.

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Re: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and new AdobeeLearning Suite

[Karen L. Zorn]

I've been an Adobe user for eons, and granted, the suites are wonderful 
opportunities to get related software as excellent prices. BUT, now 
Adobe is creating crossover amongst the suites, and I'm not so sure 
there a pricing opportunity to be had.


I've been looking at upgrading my CS2 to CS4 and FM7 to TC2, and the new 
eLearning Suite is ve tempting, but


Acrobat 9 is in all 3.
Captivate is in TC and eLearning.
Flash in eLearning and CS4.
PhotoShop is in eLearning and CS4.
Dreamweaver is in eLearning and CS4.
The unique s/w in TC is FM and RoboHelp which I need for clients.
In eLearning: Presenter and Soundbooth.
In CS4: InDesign, Illustrator, and Fireworks.


Since I rarely use Illustrator, I probably could just purchase a 
standalone copies of Fireworks and InDesign, if that is possible.


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Re: FM 9 - Sort Order for Paragraphs, F8/F9 keyboard shortcuts

[Alan Litchfield]

On 22/01/2009, at 8:16 AM, Martinek, Carla wrote:



 Please, file your comments with Adobe. Let them know that YOU find  
 this
 a deal-breaker, and why.


Where? But as I said, whistling in the wind...

 Now, all that said, a couple of the beta testers who write  
 FrameScripts
 said they could probably come up with a script to solve this issue.  
 I'd
 certainly pay for the script if they do.

That would mean buying the scripts, buying FrameScript to run them  
when this functionality should be a core part of the application. Just  
being an independent means I don't a lot of money to chuck at filling  
holes the developers have exposed simply because they wanted to add  
more 'features'.

Gotta say, I am starting to look at other applications. Building a  
class file in LaTeX would be as time consuming, and in the end  
possible productive.

Alan
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Re: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and new AdobeeLearning Suite

[Art Campbell]

One tiny correction: PhotoShop CS4 is now in the Tech Comm Suite 2.

Art

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On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Karen L. Zorn k.z...@zorntech.com wrote:

 I've been an Adobe user for eons, and granted, the suites are wonderful
 opportunities to get related software as excellent prices. BUT, now Adobe is
 creating crossover amongst the suites, and I'm not so sure there a pricing
 opportunity to be had.

 I've been looking at upgrading my CS2 to CS4 and FM7 to TC2, and the new
 eLearning Suite is ve tempting, but

 Acrobat 9 is in all 3.
 Captivate is in TC and eLearning.
 Flash in eLearning and CS4.
 PhotoShop is in eLearning and CS4.
 Dreamweaver is in eLearning and CS4.
 The unique s/w in TC is FM and RoboHelp which I need for clients.
 In eLearning: Presenter and Soundbooth.
 In CS4: InDesign, Illustrator, and Fireworks.


 Since I rarely use Illustrator, I probably could just purchase a standalone
 copies of Fireworks and InDesign, if that is possible.

 Karen L. Zorn
 ZornTech LLC
 Mesa, AZ


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Re: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and new AdobeeLearningSuite

[Mike Wickham]

 Acrobat 9 is in all 3.
 Captivate is in TC and eLearning.
 Flash in eLearning and CS4.
 PhotoShop is in eLearning and CS4.
 Dreamweaver is in eLearning and CS4.
 The unique s/w in TC is FM and RoboHelp which I need for clients.
 In eLearning: Presenter and Soundbooth.
 In CS4: InDesign, Illustrator, and Fireworks.

Actually, Photoshop and Presenter are also in TC.

I'm bummed out if it's true that the standalone version of FM9 doesn't share 
the integrated PDF review capability of TCS. I would really like that 
feature, but FM is the only product I need from that suite, since I have CS4 
Design Premium. There's no way I'm going to pay $1299 to upgrade and then be 
forced into the more expensive upgrade path for future versions, too.

Mike Wickham


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Re: FM 9 - Sort Order for Paragraphs, F8/F9 keyboard shortcuts

[Alan Litchfield]

OK. Can anyone confirm if the other commands are lost too? Such as the  
meta key commands?

I can't install this new version onto my old computer.

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Re: FM 9 - Sort Order for Paragraphs, F8/F9 keyboard shortcuts

[Art Campbell]

On my (pre-release/beta) 9 install, all the format shortcuts are working.

Art

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 I can't install this new version onto my old computer.

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RE: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and newAdobeeLearningSuite

[Flato, Gillian]

When you say integrated PDF review, do you mean that when someone makes
a comment on a PDF when in review, you can import those changes and
comments into the Frame file, instead of having to copy and paste them
and then edit your text? 


-Gillian


-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Mike Wickham
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 12:30 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and
newAdobeeLearningSuite

 Acrobat 9 is in all 3.
 Captivate is in TC and eLearning.
 Flash in eLearning and CS4.
 PhotoShop is in eLearning and CS4.
 Dreamweaver is in eLearning and CS4.
 The unique s/w in TC is FM and RoboHelp which I need for clients.
 In eLearning: Presenter and Soundbooth.
 In CS4: InDesign, Illustrator, and Fireworks.

Actually, Photoshop and Presenter are also in TC.

I'm bummed out if it's true that the standalone version of FM9 doesn't
share 
the integrated PDF review capability of TCS. I would really like that 
feature, but FM is the only product I need from that suite, since I have
CS4 
Design Premium. There's no way I'm going to pay $1299 to upgrade and
then be 
forced into the more expensive upgrade path for future versions, too.

Mike Wickham


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RE: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 andnewAdobeeLearningSuite

[Owen, Clint]

Exactly. That is what they show in the TC2 demonstration.

Clint


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Gillian
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 1:26 PM
To: Mike Wickham; framers@lists.frameusers.com
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andnewAdobeeLearningSuite

When you say integrated PDF review, do you mean that when someone makes
a comment on a PDF when in review, you can import those changes and
comments into the Frame file, instead of having to copy and paste them
and then edit your text? 


-Gillian


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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Mike Wickham
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 12:30 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and
newAdobeeLearningSuite

 Acrobat 9 is in all 3.
 Captivate is in TC and eLearning.
 Flash in eLearning and CS4.
 PhotoShop is in eLearning and CS4.
 Dreamweaver is in eLearning and CS4.
 The unique s/w in TC is FM and RoboHelp which I need for clients.
 In eLearning: Presenter and Soundbooth.
 In CS4: InDesign, Illustrator, and Fireworks.

Actually, Photoshop and Presenter are also in TC.

I'm bummed out if it's true that the standalone version of FM9 doesn't
share the integrated PDF review capability of TCS. I would really like
that feature, but FM is the only product I need from that suite, since I
have
CS4
Design Premium. There's no way I'm going to pay $1299 to upgrade and
then be forced into the more expensive upgrade path for future versions,
too.

Mike Wickham


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RE: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 andnewAdobeeLearningSuite

[Combs, Richard]

Flato, Gillian wrote:
 
 When you say integrated PDF review, do you mean that when someone
makes
 a comment on a PDF when in review, you can import those changes and
 comments into the Frame file, instead of having to copy and paste them
 and then edit your text?

Yes. Not only that, but you can show original or final (with or without
markup), accept/reject changes individually, accept/reject all, etc. At
least with the TCS2 versions -- I don't know how much of that
functionality is available if you get the standalone versions of FM9 and
Acro9ProExtended.

Richard


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RE: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 andnewAdobeeLearningSuite

[Fred Ridder]

Richard Combs wrote:
 
 Yes. Not only that, but you can show original or final (with or without
 markup), accept/reject changes individually, accept/reject all, etc. At
 least with the TCS2 versions -- I don't know how much of that
 functionality is available if you get the standalone versions of FM9 and
 Acro9ProExtended.
 
The review changes are imported into FrameMaker using the Track Text
Edits feature which already has the preview and accept/jecect features
you mention. If FM9 is able to import eht review edits at all, they should 
have all the functionality of the already existing Track Text Edits feature.
 
-Fred Ridder
 
 
 
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CS4 User Manuals Available

[Mike Wickham]

For those who like printed manuals, Adobe is finally showing them for the 
CS4 suites and programs in their online store. It's a shame there never was 
one for FM8.

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Percent symbol in FM equation

[Linda G. Gallagher]

Framers,

FM 8

I suspect there's a simple answer, but I can't figure out how to insert a
percent symbol % into an equation using the FM equation editor. I use the
editor rarely and usually muddle my through.

I'm re-creating an equation that was originally done in Word (I've already
tried copying that Word equation, saving it as a graphic, and importing it,
but it looks lousy).

Thanks in advance!

~
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FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

[Dave Reynolds]

Thanks for the detailed reply, Mike.  This thread has confirmed the 
behaviour I noticed last year when we upgraded from Frame 6 to Frame 8.  
In fact, I posted to the list about it in September, but I think I only 
got one reply.  This is what I found last year:

**
Hi

I've noticed at times that moving the cursor around in a Frame 8 file 
can be rather sluggish.  This is when I'm using the arrow key to move 
the cursor along a line of text.  I've also noticed that using the 
shift+arrow keys to select text can be really slow as well.  However, at 
other times the cursor moves at what I consider to be a normal speed.
The other day I think I found out why.  The movement of the cursor slows 
right down when I have Paragraph Designer open.  I did a timed test on a 
random line of text.  With PD closed, it took 4 seconds to run the 
cursor from one end of the line to the other, but with PD open it took 
14 seconds.  If I selected the line using Shift+arrow, the times were 
about the same.  I repeated the test with PD closed and Character 
Designer open, but this time it took about 5 seconds.

I've duplicated the test in Frame 6, and both PD and CD have no 
noticeable effect on the speed of the cursor movement.

Has anyone else noticed this behaviour?  It's not a big problem, just a 
nuisance.

I'm on Frame 8.0p277 and Win XP.  Pentium 4 dual core 3GHz with 1GB RAM.
***

It's almost as if the Designer is scanning the paragraph for information 
each time the cursor is moved.  For example, if I open PD and select the 
Default Font Tab, put the cursor in a row of body text and press the 
right arrow to move the cursor along the line of text, I notice that the 
word "Black" in the Color field in PD flashes in time with the movement 
of the cursor.  Does this mean that PD is checking the font colour and 
redisplaying it each time the cursor moves?

Regards

Dave


Mike Wickham wrote, on 21/01/2009 8:52 a.m.:
> I have the same slow cursor speed with FrameMaker 8.0p277 on Windows XP Pro 
> and on Vista.
>
> 1. If the Paragraph Designer is the only palette open, it takes 8 seconds to
> scroll across a 50-character column using the right-arrow key.
>
> 2. If the Character Designer is the only palette open, it takes 4 seconds to
> scroll.
>
> 3. If any of the other palettes are open alone, it takes only 2-seconds to 
> scroll, which is about what I expect.
>
> Opening palettes in combination slows the scroll rate further. There are six 
> palettes that I like to have open: the Paragraph Designer,
> Character Designer, and Table Designer, and  the Paragraph Catalog,
> Character Catalog, and Tool palette. I've discovered that two of these are
> causing the issue. Here are some notes:
>
> 1. If all six palettes are open, it takes about 13 seconds to scroll across
> a 50-character column by holding down the right arrow key. Yikes! Too slow!
>
> 2. If I then close the Paragraph Designer, it only takes about 5 seconds to
> scroll across the column.
>
> 3. If I also close the Character Designer, it drops to around 2 seconds.
> That's about as it should be.
>
> 4. Closing any or all of the remaining palettes also results in a 2-second
> normal scroll rate.
>
> So the slowness problem appears to be linked to having  the Paragraph
> Designer and Character Designer palettes. Hopefully, this issue will be 
> fixed with FrameMaker 9. Yes, I'm an optimist. :)
>
> Mike Wickham
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Avraham Makeler" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 6:30 AM
> Subject: Re: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC
>
>
> I have demo-ed to myself that it is the Para Designer dial box that clobbers
> my editing speed. It's repeatable on my machine.
> Every computer architecture is different. So I just found a weak spot in my
> arch. as compared to some other machine.
>
>
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New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and new AdobeeLearning Suite

[Alan Litchfield]

Looks good. The demo is well worth the time.

Couple of observations:
1. It seems to be fairly slow in response. Maybe that was just the  
computer being used, but one would think that a demo would be created  
to minimise those kinds of things. Even Photoshop seemed quite fast by  
comparison. Is it sluggish?
2. It seems very clicky, I am hoping the keyboard commands have not  
been lost or changed excessively. One of the min reasons I use FM is  
through having the ability to virtually leave the mouse alone while  
chunking through a 600-odd page book.
3. There was no mention of backwards compatibility. Will it save to  
V7.*?
4. Interesting to see the integration with Adobe AIR. Do many people  
use it - it is very expensive at some NZD7 per license?
5. The new pdf review workflow looks seriously cool!
6. The TechCom suite looks thoroughly integrated. Will having FM on  
its own lose some of those features, like the integration with Acrobat  
and Photoshop? Already having both negates the value of buying the  
suite you see.

Alan

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Adobe announces FrameMaker 9 and Technical Communication

[Shmuel Wolfson]

That's one thing, but they also put together various dialog boxes to 
make things easier. Watch the presentation and the video which is linked 
from the middle of the presentation.

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Technical Writer
052-763-7133


Art Campbell wrote:
> It means that the interface has been Adobe-ized, updated from the 
> traditional FM look and feel. Pallets like Photoshop, Illustrator, etc.
>
> If you already know FM, your learning curve may last through two cups 
> of coffee, if you drink slow.
>
> Art
>
> Art Campbell   
>art.campbell at gmail.com 
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> and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
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>
>
> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 7:58 AM, John Sgammato 
> mailto:jsgammato at imprivata.com>> wrote:
>
> There is a more detailed presentation at
> https://admin.adobe.acrobat.com/_a295153/p36735434/
> The FM9 stuff starts around minute 23.
> I am watching the bit about roundtripping to Acrobat 9 for reviews.
>
> john
>
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
> 
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
> ] On Behalf Of Shmuel
> Wolfson
> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 7:10 AM
> To: Framers
> Subject: Re: Adobe announces FrameMaker 9 and Technical Communication
>
> Here's a presentation on what's new in TCS2:
> http://my.adobe.acrobat.com/newintcs2/
> It looks nice.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Shmuel Wolfson
> Technical Writer
> 052-763-7133
>
>
> Carrie Baker wrote:
> > I looked at their announcement.
> > What do you think they mean by
> > "New intunitve User Interface"? and then "Work more efficiently
> through a
> > completely redesigned user experience."
> >
> > Does anyone know if this is a "good thing".
> > This sounds like a learning curve for experienced users.
> >
> >
> _
> > Message: 38
> > Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 08:26:27 +0100
> > From: "Yves Barbion"  >
> > Subject: To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> 
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> > It's here:
> > http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/
> > http://www.adobe.com/products/technicalcommunicationsuite/
> >
> > Cheers
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> Instructor
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> T: +32 494 12 01 89
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Webinar: "Multimedia in PDFs with FM-to-Acrobat TimeSavers + Multimedia Asst" (Feb 10)

[Shlomo Perets]

"Multimedia in PDFs with FM-to-Acrobat TimeSavers + Multimedia
Assistant" Webinar:  Tuesday, February 10, 2009 (10am-11am PST)

Learn how you can embed/link to audio or video files (filmed or
software demos) from PDFs created in FM, without the tedious work
of inserting the link/file and defining playback properties every
time the PDF is updated.

With Multimedia Assistant, you use hypertext markers to define
access (embed or link) to local/web-based multimedia files in all
formats supported by Acrobat/Reader, so that the defined features
are automatically present in the PDF file.
[Feature demos: http://www.microtype.com/ShowcaseMultimedia.html ]

Applicable for FrameMaker/Windows (all versions)

To register to this free one-hour webinar, please write to
timesavers at microtype.com

Shlomo Perets

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New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and new, Adobe Learning Suite

[Doug Cuff]

> 2. It seems very clicky, I am hoping the keyboard commands have not  
> been lost or changed excessively. One of the min reasons I use FM is  
> through having the ability to virtually leave the mouse alone while  
> chunking through a 600-odd page book.

I hope that FM9 will meet your needs. I also fear that it won't.

Several of the alpha- and beta-testers, including me, made the point about how 
vital shortcut keys like Ctrl-8/F8 and Ctrl-9/F9 were to the way we work. We 
made the point repeatedly, after several builds, and strongly.

Whether or not the developers actually listened to us in the final build, I do 
not know. I haven't seen it yet. I am waiting eagerly to find out. Perhaps 
someone could test out the free trial download and let us know? (I couldn't get 
the download to work for me yesterday.)

Doug Cuff

FrameMaker 9 Install Trouble

[Martinek, Carla]

Has anyone else been able to install the new release for FM9?

I downloaded the trial version yesterday, apparently successfully, and
unzipped it this morning. There is no installation or setup.exe file to
be found. Wonder if anyone else had the same problem?

-Carla


Folder/File Structure

Adobe FrameMaker 9

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Data1.cab
Data11.cab

  Adobe FrameMaker CSTI Driver
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  AdobeSuiteSharedConfiguration-mul

  Adobe FrameMaker Dependencies Driver
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  AdobeLinguisticsAll
  AdobePDFL9-mul

  Adobe PDF Creation Add-On 9
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FrameMaker 9 Install Trouble

[Jo Watkiss]

I downloaded and installed the trial yesterday without any problems.  My
download included two files:

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Framemaker9_WWEFGJ.7z (1023015KB)

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[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Martinek,
Carla
Sent: 21 January 2009 14:14
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: FrameMaker 9 Install Trouble

Has anyone else been able to install the new release for FM9?

I downloaded the trial version yesterday, apparently successfully, and
unzipped it this morning. There is no installation or setup.exe file to
be found. Wonder if anyone else had the same problem?

-Carla


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FrameMaker 9 Install Trouble

[Martinek, Carla]

Harrumph. I deleted the unzipped files, and unpacked the original file
again. NOW it automatically launched the setup.

-Carla




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[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Martinek,
Carla
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 8:14 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: FrameMaker 9 Install Trouble

Has anyone else been able to install the new release for FM9?

I downloaded the trial version yesterday, apparently successfully, and
unzipped it this morning. There is no installation or setup.exe file to
be found. Wonder if anyone else had the same problem?

-Carla


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payloads
  AdobeSuiteSharedConfiguration-mul

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payloads
  AdobeLinguisticsAll
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FrameMaker 9 Install Trouble

[Mike Wickham]

Carla,

I was able to download and install the trial of FM9, but haven't played with 
it yet. The download should give you two files: a 1.17 MB .exe file, and a 
999 MB .7z file. The .exe file extracts the .7z file and then runs an 
installation.

Mike Wickham

- Original Message - 
From: "Martinek, Carla" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 8:14 AM
Subject: FrameMaker 9 Install Trouble


> Has anyone else been able to install the new release for FM9?
>
> I downloaded the trial version yesterday, apparently successfully, and
> unzipped it this morning. There is no installation or setup.exe file to
> be found. Wonder if anyone else had the same problem?
>
> -Carla
>
>
> Folder/File Structure
>
> Adobe FrameMaker 9
>
>  Adobe FrameMaker
>Data1.cab
>Data11.cab
>
>  Adobe FrameMaker CSTI Driver
>payloads
>  AdobeSuiteSharedConfiguration-mul
>
>  Adobe FrameMaker Dependencies Driver
>payloads
>  AdobeLinguisticsAll
>  AdobePDFL9-mul
>
>  Adobe PDF Creation Add-On 9
>de_de
>  Data.cab
>en_us
>  Data1.cab
>fr_fr
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>ja_jp
>  Data1.cab
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FM 9 - Sort Order for Paragraphs, F8/F9 keyboard shortcuts

[Martinek, Carla]

One issue that came up during beta testing was the paragraph sort order.
Some of you may have noticed that it changed in one of the FM8 patches.
Many of us created templates that had style names in a particular order
so that we could make easy use of keyboard shortcuts.

Prior to FM8p277, these two styles would sort in this order:

   1_Heading1
   1k_HeadingKit

In FM8p277 and on, they sorted in this order (the underscore came at the
*end* of the sort list, instead of at the beginning):

   1k_HeadingKit
   1_Heading1

In FM9, the catalog sort order can be controlled in two ways through a
flag in maker.ini. The default behavior continues to what was introduced
with 8.0 p277 onwards but the old behavior can be achieved by toggling
this flag.

This can be done by switching  the setting using
"SymbolSortingBeforeAlphaNumeric=On" in the maker.ini file.

===

You will notice that the F8 and F9 shortcuts DO NOT work the same as
previous versions. If you press F8 or F9, and then a letter or number,
you will go to the first style that starts with that character. In the
following example, pressing "b" would take you to the b1_body style.
However, previously I could press "b3" to select the b3_bullet1 style.
Now you either have to press  "b" three times, or press "b" and then the
down arrow twice to get to the b3 style.

b1_body1
b2_body2
b3_bullet1
b4_bullet2
c1_cellbody1

You may or may not find this inconvenient. In our case, this reduced
functionality has basically rendered the keyboard shortcuts useless for
many styles. To get to the c7 style, I'd have to press c seven times, or
c once and the down arrow six times. I might as well use the mouse at
that point. (If you find this intolerable, please let Adobe know. Now
that the release is out, perhaps they can go back and address this
problem and fix it in a patch release.)

OTHERWISE, I find most of the improvements to be quite nice, and most
Framers will be quite comfortable with the new features in a short time.

-Carla

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New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and new AdobeeLearning Suite

[Rick Quatro]

I am happy about the release of FrameMaker 9 and the Tech Comm Suite 2. 
However, I am suprised by the lack of visibility on Adobe.com. When I go to 
the home page, I see no mention whatsoever of FrameMaker 9. When I click the 
"See all products" link, there are FrameMaker 8, RoboHelp 7, and Captivate 3 
icons. I would think that with new releases like these, they would be 
featured for a few days on Adobe.com. I understand sales percentages and 
market share, etc., but it certainly wouldn't hurt to "feature" FrameMaker, 
etc., on the home page for a few days after its release.

Rick

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com



*** I work for Adobe Systems, Inc. ***

Hi All, I'm extremely excited to share with you that today we have announced 
the availability of two major Adobe Suites, the new Adobe eLearning 
Suite and the second version 
of the Technical Communication 
Suite, version 2.

Furthermore, we are also announcing the availability of Adobe Captivate 
4, FrameMaker 
9 and RoboHelp 
8 and I will provide more 
information on these individual products in upcoming blog posts.

Over the next few days, I will be blogging actively on what's new in all of 
these products, but for now, here are some links to various recordings that 
I have put together to help our customers learn what's new and exciting in 
all of these new releases:

Introducing the Adobe eLearning 
Suite

What's New in the Adobe Technical Communication 
2

What's New in Adobe Captivate 4

Sincerely,

RJ J?cquez
Senior Product Evangelist
Adobe Technical Communication Suite
Adobe eLearning Solutions
http://blogs.adobe.com/rjacquez

FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Syed,

2GB of memory is not much for Vista. I would suggest at least 3GB.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com

> Hmmm ... I would suggest doing some testing to see if you see what I
> just saw ... I decided to try to duplicate what I was reading here. I
> have a fast Windows laptop and tested moving around a document with the
> arrow keys with, and without, the designer boxes open.
> 
> Running FrameMaker 8, latest patch, on (recently loaded) Vista 32bit on
> a Dell Latitude 820 laptop, with a 2.16GHz Core Duo proc, 2GB of memory,
> fast 7200rpm drive.
> 
> My results *definitely* confirmed that the cursor movement with the
> arrows is MUCH faster with the designer boxes not visible. Since I have
> a fast computer, I had only seen a bit of sluggishness in the past (I
> keep the Paragraph, Character and Table designer boxes open), but did
> not bother to track it down. However, the difference is sufficiently
> dramatic that I now plan to work with the designer dialog boxes closed!
> Not my preferred mode, fwiw, so I hope Adobe improves this issue.
> 
> I attribute this sluggishness to the continuous "check and show the
> paragraph and character information" in the designer dialog boxes while
> the cursor is being moved around with the arrow keys - something needs
> to be speeded up here for sure!
> 
> Thanks for this thread, folks!
> 
> Z

FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

[Fred Ridder]

Responding to Syed Hosain, Rick Quatro wrote:
> 2GB of memory is not much for Vista. I would suggest at least 3GB.
The 32-bit versions of Vista can only address 3 GB of memory, so more
than that amount doesn't improve performance unless you're running 
the 64-bit (Ultimate) version of Vista.

-Fred Ridder

FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

[syed.hos...@aeris.net]

Hi, Rick.

In the recent past, after I upgraded to Vista, I examined the actual
physical (i.e., not paged to disk) memory being used while I have had
some large FM documents open, and that was not an issue, as far as I
could tell.

However, I was thinking of bumping the memory up anyway, so I will try
that as an option and also see if it has any effect on the issue
described below - the local Fry's Electronics is having a sale on
notebook memory: 4GB for $35 plus tax right now. Not bad at all!

Z

-Original Message-
From: Rick Quatro [mailto:frameexp...@truevine.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 7:36 AM
To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net);
framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

Hi Syed,

2GB of memory is not much for Vista. I would suggest at least 3GB.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com

> Hmmm ... I would suggest doing some testing to see if you see what I
> just saw ... I decided to try to duplicate what I was reading here. I
> have a fast Windows laptop and tested moving around a document with
the
> arrow keys with, and without, the designer boxes open.
> 
> Running FrameMaker 8, latest patch, on (recently loaded) Vista 32bit
on
> a Dell Latitude 820 laptop, with a 2.16GHz Core Duo proc, 2GB of
memory,
> fast 7200rpm drive.
> 
> My results *definitely* confirmed that the cursor movement with the
> arrows is MUCH faster with the designer boxes not visible. Since I
have
> a fast computer, I had only seen a bit of sluggishness in the past (I
> keep the Paragraph, Character and Table designer boxes open), but did
> not bother to track it down. However, the difference is sufficiently
> dramatic that I now plan to work with the designer dialog boxes
closed!
> Not my preferred mode, fwiw, so I hope Adobe improves this issue.
> 
> I attribute this sluggishness to the continuous "check and show the
> paragraph and character information" in the designer dialog boxes
while
> the cursor is being moved around with the arrow keys - something needs
> to be speeded up here for sure!
> 
> Thanks for this thread, folks!
> 
> Z

FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

[syed.hos...@aeris.net]

Fred Ridder said:

?  The 32-bit versions of Vista can only address 3 GB of memory, so more than 
that amount doesn't improve performance unless you're running the 64-bit 
(Ultimate) version of Vista.



Yup! But you don't have to go all the way to Ultimate 64. Just as an FYI, there 
is a Vista Business 64 available as well - a tiny bit cheaper, and still 
supports 4GB (and more) memory.



One of the reasons I asked about 64 bit operation a few weeks/months ago on 
this list. J Unfortunately, due to some other driver reasons, I could not 
install that (I had both 32 and 64 bit Vista Business upgrade disks available). 
But I will see if I can do that in the near future since I will be changing my 
laptop for a faster version in a few months - it is acting a bit flaky and 
locking up on me occasionally.



Z

Adobe announces FM9 and Tech Comm Suite 2

[Owen, Clint]

Does anyone know if the PDF review feature will be available in FM 9 by itself, 
if you don't buy the whole TC Suite? We use FM, but not the other components of 
the suite. This feature alone is probably worth the upgrade from FM 7 to 9, but 
I doubt that the company would want to pay for the other applications that we 
won't use.

Thanks,

Clint


Clinton Owen | Senior Technical Writer | Crane Aerospace & Electronics | 
Telephone: +1 425-743-8674 | Fax: +1 425-743-8113


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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Maxwell Hoffmann
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 1:33 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Adobe announces FM9 and Tech Comm Suite 2

Adobe officially announced FrameMaker 9 and Technical Communication Suite 2
today:

http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pressroom/pressreleases/200901/012009adobeTe
chCom2.html

I was one of the beta-testers and this product is a true "major" release.
The most significant upgrade I've seen in well over 10 years. New product 
features will give dramatic ROI and help the product to "pay for itself"
very quickly.

_ 

Maxwell ?Hoffmann
Director, Document Globalization Practice Globalization Partners International 
(GPI) www.globalizationpartners.com
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why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct?

[kanti.m...@schange.com]

I never thanked all for their help.  Just recently, I read the article 
from Kevin Siegel's Weekly Skills and Drills about NOT remembering fonts. 
When I opened the docs with that setting, and saved them, and reset the DO 
remember fonts, Frame conveniently forgot all about the missing items. 

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Stuart Rogers  
08/14/2008 10:46 AM

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cc
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Subject
Re: why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct?






Kanti.Mann at schange.com wrote:
> Hello: 
> 
> I know FM8 uses unicode, rather than PS fonts as before, but in an 
entire 
> group of 10+ writers, some of us are getting font errors, and some are 
> not, now that we're all using the ATCS. 
> 
> Further, many of the errors are for things like Helvetica, which is 
there 
> anyway!
> 


More details, as requested by Dov, would be extremely helpful.  In the 
meantime:  do all of your installations have the Adobe PDF printer 
driver set as default, or do some of them have a physical printer set as 
default?  Physical printers' drivers often report their resident fonts 
to the operating system, which then treats them as though they are 
locally installed.  That can cause font errors in FM.

HTH,

-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

srogers phoenix-geophysics com

PLES RING IF AN RNSER IS REQIRD. PLEZ CNOKE IF AN RNSR IS
NOT REQUID.

--Owl

Adobe announces FrameMaker 9 and Technical Communication

[Maxwell Hoffmann]

I concur with Bernard's analysis. I too have worked with the product for
some time. The pods in the workspaces allow you to see nearly all of your
marker content at one time. You can sort contents of pods in a variety of
ways for pre-flighting or troubleshooting a document. Pods for Cross
References will color code unresolved cross references (avoiding the
"one-at-a-time" search routine.) And, you can finally replace missing fonts
on a per document (or book) basis, without editing maker.ini and restarting
FrameMaker.

In short, after a couple of days working with FM9, I found it irritating to
work with FM8. Yes, there is a learning curve, but it is well worth it.
FrameMaker's previous user interface jelled around 1994, and after 15 years,
it is time for a change.

The new UI will also make the product more accessible to new users and end
the frustration we've all experienced in "getting the people down the hall
to use the product" instead of Word or other inappropriate choices for high
page count projects.

_ 

Maxwell ?Hoffmann
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Globalization Partners International (GPI)???
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-Original Message-
From: Bernard Aschwanden (Publishing Smarter)
[mailto:bernard at publishingsmarter.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 10:09 AM
To: 'Carrie Baker'; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Adobe announces FrameMaker 9 and Technical Communication

It will be a learning curve for experienced users. I've been working with
this for a while now and I can tell you that it takes a while to get used to
it. However, much like working with other tools, it's now a lot easier to
configure the system for what I'm doing, rather than for what the
application feels like presenting to me. It's been a long time coming, but
it feels more like an Adobe tool. If you use things like Photoshop, or
Acrobat, or any other major Adobe tool, you have a way to configure the
interface to do what you want, rather than what the dev team decided.
[snip]
So, the answer to the question of 'Does anyone know if this is a "good
thing"' is a "yes" but a qualified one. It's a good thing IF you are willing
to take the time to work through the learning curve. Once that's done
though, then it's a much smoother ride and, like the new car, can make the
small bumps seem smoother, the long trips a bit less tiring, and ultimately
make the destination the focus point, not the individual issues that come up
along the way.

I hope that helps out.

Bernard



Bernard Aschwanden
President
Publishing Smarter

www.publishingsmarter.com 

Adobe announces FM9 and Tech Comm Suite 2

[Fred Ridder]

Clint Owen wrote:

> Does anyone know if the PDF review feature will be available in 
> FM 9 by itself, if you don't buy the whole TC Suite? We use FM, 
> but not the other components of the suite. This feature alone is 
> probably worth the upgrade from FM 7 to 9, but I doubt that the 
> company would want to pay for the other applications that we won't use.
I notice that TCS 2.0 includes a version of Acrobat called Acrobat 9.0
Pro Extended, and I suspect that this is the "special sauce" that makes
the new PDF workflow work. So I suspect that the real question is 
whether that version of Acrobat will be available as a standalone 
product, as well as whether it hooks into the standalone version of 
FrameMaker 9.0. 

-Fred Ridder

Adobe announces FM9 and Tech Comm Suite 2

[Owen, Clint]

My understanding of the review feature was that the reviewers only need
the free Acrobat 9 reader. But maybe we would need the pro extended
version of Acrobat along with FM 9 to get the full functionality? That
would be disappointing.

Clint 


Clinton Owen | Senior Technical Writer | Crane Aerospace & Electronics |
Telephone: +1 425-743-8674 | Fax: +1 425-743-8113


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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fred Ridder
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 9:04 AM
To: Owen, Clint; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Adobe announces FM9 and Tech Comm Suite 2


Clint Owen wrote:

> Does anyone know if the PDF review feature will be available in FM 9 
> by itself, if you don't buy the whole TC Suite? We use FM, but not the

> other components of the suite. This feature alone is probably worth 
> the upgrade from FM 7 to 9, but I doubt that the company would want to

> pay for the other applications that we won't use.
I notice that TCS 2.0 includes a version of Acrobat called Acrobat 9.0
Pro Extended, and I suspect that this is the "special sauce" that makes
the new PDF workflow work. So I suspect that the real question is
whether that version of Acrobat will be available as a standalone
product, as well as whether it hooks into the standalone version of
FrameMaker 9.0. 

-Fred Ridder
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Adobe announces FM9 and Tech Comm Suite 2

[Combs, Richard]

Fred Ridder wrote:

> Clint Owen wrote:
> 
> > Does anyone know if the PDF review feature will be available in
> > FM 9 by itself, if you don't buy the whole TC Suite? We use FM,
> > but not the other components of the suite. This feature alone is
> > probably worth the upgrade from FM 7 to 9, but I doubt that the
> > company would want to pay for the other applications that we won't
use.
> I notice that TCS 2.0 includes a version of Acrobat called Acrobat 9.0
> Pro Extended, and I suspect that this is the "special sauce" that
makes
> the new PDF workflow work. So I suspect that the real question is
> whether that version of Acrobat will be available as a standalone
> product, as well as whether it hooks into the standalone version of
> FrameMaker 9.0.

It is available standalone: 

http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobatproextended/

I didn't want to watch all the flash-y stuff, and text descriptions of
features are somewhat limited, but AcroProE seems to be the source of
the "special sauce." 

To address Clint's post that came in as I was writing this: Reviewers
just need Adobe Reader. But you need Acrobat to create PDFs from your FM
docs (I don't think Distiller is bundled with FM anymore, but I could be
wrong about that). It seems reasonable for Adobe to say you need the
full-featured version of Acrobat to add this new and compelling feature
to the PDFs you create. 

Richard


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Adobe announces FM9 and Tech Comm Suite 2

[Kelly McDaniel]

That there is so much confusion about a couple of features that
technical writing professionals express an interest in speaks (deeper)
to what RickQ wrote; that these new releases should be featured on the
Adobe web site. Further, that these features should be described in
language that the intended audience finds unambiguous...regards, Kelly.

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Owen, Clint
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 11:08 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Adobe announces FM9 and Tech Comm Suite 2

My understanding of the review feature was that the reviewers only need
the free Acrobat 9 reader. But maybe we would need the pro extended
version of Acrobat along with FM 9 to get the full functionality? That
would be disappointing.

Clint 


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Subject: RE: Adobe announces FM9 and Tech Comm Suite 2


Clint Owen wrote:

> Does anyone know if the PDF review feature will be available in FM 9 
> by itself, if you don't buy the whole TC Suite? We use FM, but not the

> other components of the suite. This feature alone is probably worth 
> the upgrade from FM 7 to 9, but I doubt that the company would want to

> pay for the other applications that we won't use.
I notice that TCS 2.0 includes a version of Acrobat called Acrobat 9.0
Pro Extended, and I suspect that this is the "special sauce" that makes
the new PDF workflow work. So I suspect that the real question is
whether that version of Acrobat will be available as a standalone
product, as well as whether it hooks into the standalone version of
FrameMaker 9.0. 

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Adobe announces FM9 and Tech Comm Suite 2

[Art Campbell]

Clint,

Depending on how you slice and dice it, there are at least several levels of
"review" features.

At the basic level, you can generate a PDF from Acrobat to which reviewers
can add comments, using Reader. That's been in place for several years and
doesn't have anything to do with Frame. It's an Acrobat feature and tool.

New in Tech Comm Suite 2 is FrameMaker 9's ability to read in the comments
from the "reviewed" Acrobat file and to manage them in Frame rather than in
Acrobat.

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On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Owen, Clint  wrote:

> My understanding of the review feature was that the reviewers only need
> the free Acrobat 9 reader. But maybe we would need the pro extended
> version of Acrobat along with FM 9 to get the full functionality? That
> would be disappointing.
>
> Clint
>
>
> Clinton Owen | Senior Technical Writer | Crane Aerospace & Electronics |
> Telephone: +1 425-743-8674 | Fax: +1 425-743-8113
>
>
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> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 9:04 AM
> To: Owen, Clint; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: Adobe announces FM9 and Tech Comm Suite 2
>
>
> Clint Owen wrote:
>
> > Does anyone know if the PDF review feature will be available in FM 9
> > by itself, if you don't buy the whole TC Suite? We use FM, but not the
>
> > other components of the suite. This feature alone is probably worth
> > the upgrade from FM 7 to 9, but I doubt that the company would want to
>
> > pay for the other applications that we won't use.
> I notice that TCS 2.0 includes a version of Acrobat called Acrobat 9.0
> Pro Extended, and I suspect that this is the "special sauce" that makes
> the new PDF workflow work. So I suspect that the real question is
> whether that version of Acrobat will be available as a standalone
> product, as well as whether it hooks into the standalone version of
> FrameMaker 9.0.
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Adobe announces FM9 and Tech Comm Suite 2

[syed.hos...@aeris.net]

Acrobat 9 Pro Extended is indeed available a separate product.

Note: I don't know whether it has the PDF workflow capability in it or
not, or how well it integrates with FrameMaker 9 - when purchased
without TCS 2.0 that is.

Z

Clint Owen wrote:

> Does anyone know if the PDF review feature will be available in 
> FM 9 by itself, if you don't buy the whole TC Suite? We use FM, 
> but not the other components of the suite. This feature alone is 
> probably worth the upgrade from FM 7 to 9, but I doubt that the 
> company would want to pay for the other applications that we won't
use.

Fred Ridder wrote:
> I notice that TCS 2.0 includes a version of Acrobat called Acrobat 9.0
> Pro Extended, and I suspect that this is the "special sauce" that
makes
> the new PDF workflow work. So I suspect that the real question is 
> whether that version of Acrobat will be available as a standalone 
> product, as well as whether it hooks into the standalone version of 
> FrameMaker 9.0. 

Bugs, or features, in FM8

[Martinek, Carla]

OKM 9 U 5 

-Original Message-
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[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shlomo Perets
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 12:50 AM
To: orandeep at comcast.net
Cc: Framers at FrameUsers.com; Ashley_Meredith at brown.edu
Subject: Re: Bugs, or features, in FM8

Oran,

You wrote: (to Austin Meredith, cc'd the list)

>I have been using FM8 and Acrobat 8 for some months now without any 
>sign of a hyperlink issue. I use cross-references, internal and 
>external hyperlinks, TOC's, Indexes. I make lists of markers, elements,

>paragraphs, etc. all of which are "hot" All of the links seem to work 
>as intended in PDF. They work both when I use the Save As PDF abd when 
>I use the print & distill method. Since we are about to upgrade a very 
>large project involving thousands of unique manuals and hundreds of 
>thousands of pages monthly, I am curious as to what your workflow/setup

>is. If there is a flaw, I have not found it so far. ...

The cross-file linking issue is described at
http://www.microtype.com/FM_bugs.html#FM8UnicodeCrossFileLinks
(together with sample PDFs produced from the same source FM file, using
FM7.2 and FM8.0, and FM8.0+TimeSavers 5.3)

The problem will not be noticed when the PDFs are :
-- accessed locally using Acrobat 8.x, but will be noticed when
cross-file links are activated through a web browser (cross-file links
in a PDF stored in an intranet/internet site) linking
-- viewed in earlier Acrobat versions or some non-Adobe PDFs viewers

Notice that in some cases, internal links are transformed to cross-file
links, which reference the same file as a target. In such a case, links
within the same file won't work when the PDF is viewed through a web
browser.


>As to your file lock/unlock issue...

I don't see a problem here, and experience the same behavior in FM7.2
and FM8.0.
In any case, the "locking" (view only) state has no implications on PDFs
and links.
Links should be tested in PDF, as links that work in FrameMaker may not
work in Acrobat (and sometimes links that don't work in FrameMaker do
work in Acrobat).


Happy New Year!


Shlomo Perets

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Adobe announces FM9 and Tech Comm Suite 2

[Scott White]

I have been using the trial version with the sole purpose of seeing  
how well the windows cmyk support is.
It is working great so far. I separated my file out and and I got four  
"plates" per page, each showing which plate it was. Just what I wanted.
This has always been a big drawback for me; my clients can't do four- 
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On Jan 21, 2009, at 10:49 AM, Owen, Clint wrote:

> Does anyone know if the PDF review feature will be available in FM 9  
> by itself, if you don't buy the whole TC Suite? We use FM, but not  
> the other components of the suite. This feature alone is probably  
> worth the upgrade from FM 7 to 9, but I doubt that the company would  
> want to pay for the other applications that we won't use.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Clint
>
>
> Clinton Owen | Senior Technical Writer | Crane Aerospace &  
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>
> Adobe officially announced FrameMaker 9 and Technical Communication  
> Suite 2
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>
> http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pressroom/pressreleases/200901/012009adobeTe
> chCom2.html
>
> I was one of the beta-testers and this product is a true "major"  
> release.
> The most significant upgrade I've seen in well over 10 years. New  
> product features will give dramatic ROI and help the product to "pay  
> for itself"
> very quickly.
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Bugs, or features, in FM8

[Martinek, Carla]

I was cleaning my keyboard, and accidentally dropped something on it. It
opened a bunch of windows, and apparently sent this email. 

Please ignore.




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Subject: RE: Bugs, or features, in FM8

OKM 9 U 5

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Bugs, or features, in FM8

[Lea Rush]

Excuse me? I don't understand this.

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FM 9 - Sort Order for Paragraphs, F8/F9 keyboard shortcuts

[Jim Owens]

Martinek, Carla wrote:

[stuff deleted]

> ===
> 
> You will notice that the F8 and F9 shortcuts DO NOT work the same as
> previous versions. . .  

 > . . . To get to the c7 style, I'd have to press c seven times, or
> c once and the down arrow six times. I might as well use the mouse at
> that point. (If you find this intolerable, please let Adobe know. Now
> that the release is out, perhaps they can go back and address this
> problem and fix it in a patch release.)

Maybe they will fix it in FM10, thus giving us a good reason to buy that 
release. . .

FM 9 - Sort Order for Paragraphs, F8/F9 keyboard shortcuts

[Martinek, Carla]

-Original Message-
> This is really really bad. So what you're saying is that 
> it only responds to the first letter you press and if you 
> press the second it then jumps to the style that starts 
> with that, if there is one?

Exactly.  If you type "t2" and press enter, the first style starting
with a "t" will highlight, and then it switches to the first heading
style that starts with the number 2, and enter will select the "2"
style.

> Sorry, but I have never had any faith in Adobe's desire to listen. 
> In general our requests for changes have gone unheard/ignored.

We tried to tell them this during beta. According to the developers, FM9
is built on a whole new platform, and they were unable to duplicate
exactly some of the features we've used for years. They finally listened
when we told them that the para sort order was a big issue, and they
provided the option to change it in the last beta build. Several of us
said that the default setting for SymbolSortingBeforeAlphaNumeric in the
maker.ini file should be ON, not OFF, but at least we CAN change it.

> I think that may well be a deal breaker for me - all the other good
stuff aside.

Please, file your comments with Adobe. Let them know that YOU find this
a deal-breaker, and why.

Now, all that said, a couple of the beta testers who write FrameScripts
said they could probably come up with a script to solve this issue. I'd
certainly pay for the script if they do.

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New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and new AdobeeLearning Suite

[Karen L. Zorn]

I've been an Adobe user for eons, and granted, the suites are wonderful 
opportunities to get related software as excellent prices. BUT, now 
Adobe is creating crossover amongst the suites, and I'm not so sure 
there a pricing opportunity to be had.

I've been looking at upgrading my CS2 to CS4 and FM7 to TC2, and the new 
eLearning Suite is ve tempting, but

Acrobat 9 is in all 3.
Captivate is in TC and eLearning.
Flash in eLearning and CS4.
PhotoShop is in eLearning and CS4.
Dreamweaver is in eLearning and CS4.
The unique s/w in TC is FM and RoboHelp which I need for clients.
In eLearning: Presenter and Soundbooth.
In CS4: InDesign, Illustrator, and Fireworks.


Since I rarely use Illustrator, I probably could just purchase a 
standalone copies of Fireworks and InDesign, if that is possible.

Karen L. Zorn
ZornTech LLC
Mesa, AZ

New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and new AdobeeLearning Suite

[Art Campbell]

One tiny correction: PhotoShop CS4 is now in the Tech Comm Suite 2.

Art

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On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Karen L. Zorn  wrote:

> I've been an Adobe user for eons, and granted, the suites are wonderful
> opportunities to get related software as excellent prices. BUT, now Adobe is
> creating crossover amongst the suites, and I'm not so sure there a pricing
> opportunity to be had.
>
> I've been looking at upgrading my CS2 to CS4 and FM7 to TC2, and the new
> eLearning Suite is ve tempting, but
>
> Acrobat 9 is in all 3.
> Captivate is in TC and eLearning.
> Flash in eLearning and CS4.
> PhotoShop is in eLearning and CS4.
> Dreamweaver is in eLearning and CS4.
> The unique s/w in TC is FM and RoboHelp which I need for clients.
> In eLearning: Presenter and Soundbooth.
> In CS4: InDesign, Illustrator, and Fireworks.
>
>
> Since I rarely use Illustrator, I probably could just purchase a standalone
> copies of Fireworks and InDesign, if that is possible.
>
> Karen L. Zorn
> ZornTech LLC
> Mesa, AZ
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New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and new AdobeeLearningSuite

[Mike Wickham]

> Acrobat 9 is in all 3.
> Captivate is in TC and eLearning.
> Flash in eLearning and CS4.
> PhotoShop is in eLearning and CS4.
> Dreamweaver is in eLearning and CS4.
> The unique s/w in TC is FM and RoboHelp which I need for clients.
> In eLearning: Presenter and Soundbooth.
> In CS4: InDesign, Illustrator, and Fireworks.

Actually, Photoshop and Presenter are also in TC.

I'm bummed out if it's true that the standalone version of FM9 doesn't share 
the integrated PDF review capability of TCS. I would really like that 
feature, but FM is the only product I need from that suite, since I have CS4 
Design Premium. There's no way I'm going to pay $1299 to upgrade and then be 
forced into the more expensive upgrade path for future versions, too.

Mike Wickham

FM 9 - Sort Order for Paragraphs, F8/F9 keyboard shortcuts

[Art Campbell]

On my (pre-release/beta) 9 install, all the format shortcuts are working.

Art

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On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Alan Litchfield wrote:

> OK. Can anyone confirm if the other commands are lost too? Such as the
> meta key commands?
>
> I can't install this new version onto my old computer.
>
> Alan
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New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and newAdobeeLearningSuite

[Flato, Gillian]

When you say integrated PDF review, do you mean that when someone makes
a comment on a PDF when in review, you can import those changes and
comments into the Frame file, instead of having to copy and paste them
and then edit your text? 


-Gillian


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To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and
newAdobeeLearningSuite

> Acrobat 9 is in all 3.
> Captivate is in TC and eLearning.
> Flash in eLearning and CS4.
> PhotoShop is in eLearning and CS4.
> Dreamweaver is in eLearning and CS4.
> The unique s/w in TC is FM and RoboHelp which I need for clients.
> In eLearning: Presenter and Soundbooth.
> In CS4: InDesign, Illustrator, and Fireworks.

Actually, Photoshop and Presenter are also in TC.

I'm bummed out if it's true that the standalone version of FM9 doesn't
share 
the integrated PDF review capability of TCS. I would really like that 
feature, but FM is the only product I need from that suite, since I have
CS4 
Design Premium. There's no way I'm going to pay $1299 to upgrade and
then be 
forced into the more expensive upgrade path for future versions, too.

Mike Wickham


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New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 andnewAdobeeLearningSuite

[Owen, Clint]

Exactly. That is what they show in the TC2 demonstration.

Clint


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Gillian
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 1:26 PM
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andnewAdobeeLearningSuite

When you say integrated PDF review, do you mean that when someone makes
a comment on a PDF when in review, you can import those changes and
comments into the Frame file, instead of having to copy and paste them
and then edit your text? 


-Gillian


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Subject: Re: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and
newAdobeeLearningSuite

> Acrobat 9 is in all 3.
> Captivate is in TC and eLearning.
> Flash in eLearning and CS4.
> PhotoShop is in eLearning and CS4.
> Dreamweaver is in eLearning and CS4.
> The unique s/w in TC is FM and RoboHelp which I need for clients.
> In eLearning: Presenter and Soundbooth.
> In CS4: InDesign, Illustrator, and Fireworks.

Actually, Photoshop and Presenter are also in TC.

I'm bummed out if it's true that the standalone version of FM9 doesn't
share the integrated PDF review capability of TCS. I would really like
that feature, but FM is the only product I need from that suite, since I
have
CS4
Design Premium. There's no way I'm going to pay $1299 to upgrade and
then be forced into the more expensive upgrade path for future versions,
too.

Mike Wickham


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New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 andnewAdobeeLearningSuite

[Combs, Richard]

Flato, Gillian wrote:

> When you say integrated PDF review, do you mean that when someone
makes
> a comment on a PDF when in review, you can import those changes and
> comments into the Frame file, instead of having to copy and paste them
> and then edit your text?

Yes. Not only that, but you can show original or final (with or without
markup), accept/reject changes individually, accept/reject all, etc. At
least with the TCS2 versions -- I don't know how much of that
functionality is available if you get the standalone versions of FM9 and
Acro9ProExtended.

Richard


Richard G. Combs
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Polycom, Inc.
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New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 andnewAdobeeLearningSuite

[Fred Ridder]

Richard Combs wrote:

> Yes. Not only that, but you can show original or final (with or without
> markup), accept/reject changes individually, accept/reject all, etc. At
> least with the TCS2 versions -- I don't know how much of that
> functionality is available if you get the standalone versions of FM9 and
> Acro9ProExtended.

The review changes are imported into FrameMaker using the Track Text
Edits feature which already has the preview and accept/jecect features
you mention. If FM9 is able to import eht review edits at all, they should 
have all the functionality of the already existing Track Text Edits feature.

-Fred Ridder

New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and newAdobeeLearningSuite

[Mike Wickham]

>> I'm bummed out if it's true that the standalone version of FM9 doesn't
>> share the integrated PDF review capability of TCS. I would really like 
>> that
>> feature, but FM is the only product I need from that suite, since I have
>> CS4 Design Premium. There's no way I'm going to pay $1299 to upgrade
>> and then be forced into the more expensive upgrade path for future
>> versions, too.

> When you say integrated PDF review, do you mean that when someone
> makes a comment on a PDF when in review, you can import those changes
> and comments into the Frame file, instead of having to copy and paste them
> and then edit your text?

Yes. I just went back and looked at the online video. They are calling it 
"PDF shared review," but there is not one word of mention of it in the FM9 
user guide, nor of the File> Save as PDF (Send For Review) menu item in FM9. 
I can see in my existing Acrobat 9 Pro an option to Send for Shared Review, 
so it's clear that I can send a PDF for review, and get back the changes, 
but not clear if the standalone version of FM9 can import the changes 
directly into FM9-- or if that's a feature available only in the TCS version 
of FM9.

Mike Wickham

CS4 User Manuals Available

[Mike Wickham]

For those who like printed manuals, Adobe is finally showing them for the 
CS4 suites and programs in their online store. It's a shame there never was 
one for FM8.

Mike Wickham

Percent symbol in FM equation

[Linda G. Gallagher]

Framers,

FM 8

I suspect there's a simple answer, but I can't figure out how to insert a
percent symbol % into an equation using the FM equation editor. I use the
editor rarely and usually muddle my through.

I'm re-creating an equation that was originally done in Word (I've already
tried copying that Word equation, saving it as a graphic, and importing it,
but it looks lousy).

Thanks in advance!

~
Linda G. Gallagher
TechCom Plus, LLC
lindag at techcomplus dot com
www.techcomplus.com
303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144
User guides, online help, FrameMaker and
WebWorks ePublisher templates

Extra space after text insets

[Shrobona Choudhuri]

Hi!



While I am importing the text insets from a source file, an extra blank
line is automatically added after the content of the text inset. It
seems a minor problem, but I really don't want that extra space! I have
to go to the container document each time to remove this extra space.
How do I get rid of this problem?





Thanks,

Shrobona



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Find and Replace Paragraph Format Feature

[Eichelberger, Mark]

Folks,

We are one FrameMaker 7 and ePublisher 2008.3



We noticed that when we generated the html output of our FM source files
using ePublisher, the fonts for some of our paragraph formats were
altered.  We looked at the Cascading Style Sheet and noticed that
paragraph formats that contained a period in the format name came across
in the css with the value '002e' substituted for the period.  When we
looked into ePublisher's help we discovered the warning from ePublisher
that paragraph format names should not contains periods as they cause
issues when the css is created.   



So we now realize we have to create new paragraph formats in Frame that
do not have any periods in the names.



Does anyone know if there is a find and replace feature in Frame that
would allow us to replace text tagged with the offending paragraph
format to use another paragraph format that has a supported format name.



Thanks in advance,

Mark







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FM8 seems to be sluggish on my PC

[Alan Barber]

Well, it doesn't work that way for me.

Laptop: four year old Sony, optimized for battery life over performance; 1.2 
GHz, .5 GB RAM (!!), XP SP3; FM8p273.

Desktop: Dual CPU 2.13 GHz, 4GB RAM, Vista SP1; FM8p277.

With the desktop it takes six seconds to scroll across two 90character lines 
with Paragraph, Character, and Table Designers open. Also six seconds with all 
designers closed. Plus or minus a second. Tried it with Photoshop and 
Illustrator also open; same result.

With the laptop, ten seconds with 'em open, six with 'em closed. A modest hit, 
I say, for a machine that's always sluggish.

Maybe the complexity of the document matters. I used a single, fourteen page 
document with only four paragraph tags. No graphics, no tables.

That desktop is by no means high performance. I bought a similar one for my 
wife last month for under $500. I've always found Vista to be very snappy, even 
as others have complained of sluggish performance.

Alan Barber

Richard Combs wrote:
> Your explanation makes sense, and suggests that the degree of slowdown
will depend on how many different pgf and char tags the cursor moves
through. There's a lot of information displayed in the Designer dialogs,
and if it changes every few characters or lines... 

I *think* (not sure though) that FM seems to check *every* time the
arrow key is pressed, regardless of whether there is an actual char tag
that it moves through. So, it slows down even when simply moving along
the same paragraph for example.

New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2andnewAdobeeLearningSuite

[Jeff Coatsworth]

Yes, they called it "round-tripping" from FM to PDF & back again in the
demo.


Jeff Coatsworth
Documentation Specialist
Gary Jonas Computing Ltd.
905-886-0544
905-886-8511 (fax)
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2andnewAdobeeLearningSuite

Exactly. That is what they show in the TC2 demonstration.

Clint


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Gillian
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 1:26 PM
To: Mike Wickham; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2
andnewAdobeeLearningSuite

When you say integrated PDF review, do you mean that when someone makes
a comment on a PDF when in review, you can import those changes and
comments into the Frame file, instead of having to copy and paste them
and then edit your text? 


-Gillian


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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Mike Wickham
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 12:30 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and
newAdobeeLearningSuite

> Acrobat 9 is in all 3.
> Captivate is in TC and eLearning.
> Flash in eLearning and CS4.
> PhotoShop is in eLearning and CS4.
> Dreamweaver is in eLearning and CS4.
> The unique s/w in TC is FM and RoboHelp which I need for clients.
> In eLearning: Presenter and Soundbooth.
> In CS4: InDesign, Illustrator, and Fireworks.

Actually, Photoshop and Presenter are also in TC.

I'm bummed out if it's true that the standalone version of FM9 doesn't
share the integrated PDF review capability of TCS. I would really like
that feature, but FM is the only product I need from that suite, since I
have
CS4
Design Premium. There's no way I'm going to pay $1299 to upgrade and
then be forced into the more expensive upgrade path for future versions,
too.

Mike Wickham


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