Re: Best graphic format for TCS (FM and RH)

[Yves Barbion]

Hi Diane

I'm using the following:

   - PNG for line art and screen shots in my HTML-based output (CHM,
   webhelp...), because GIF supports only 256 colors
   - EPS or PDF for line art in my PDF output. In FrameMaker, PDF has a
   better preview than EPS

For more information on graphic file formats, see:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_file_format


Cheers

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On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 3:11 AM, Diane Gaskill dgcal...@earthlink.netwrote:


 Hi Frameusers,

 We're having a bit of a debate at my office regarding the best graphics
 format to import to FM, not only for use in FM, but also for RH, because we
 use the TCS (FM8/AB8/RH7).  We also using Captivate to record some GUI
 walkthroughs.

 Our manuals contain a combination of up to 175 color photos, screenshots
 and line drawings.  They are designed to be used primarily on line.  We
 print only 3 or 4 small getting started guides.  These are short runs on a
 Docutech or equivalent, and generally in B/W.  No Heidelbergs, no 4-color
 printing.

 The rest of the 200 or so docs are delivered in PDF to the customers. Users
 can, of course, print them on a local printer.

 Our localization vendor recommended GIF because we do not print the
 manuals, and this helps keep the file sizes small.  However, in addition to
 GIF, we found that we need to use at least one other format.  The line
 drawings from the engineering source docs look great in Paintshop Pro in GIF
 format, but the GIF filter in FM displays them badly.  When we convert the
 GIF files to WMF and import that into FM, the graphics display fine.

 Hope to hear back from some of you soon.  We've got a meeting tomorrow
 about this.

 Thanks lots everyone,

 Diane Gaskill
 Hitachi Data Systems


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RE: Omega symbol becomes W in pdf

[Nancy Allison]

Andrew says:



 You thought NASA's metric-vs-English mistakes were boneheaded?  In 
 those cases, numbers were off by a factor of 4.45, but when the 
 mu-to-m error occurs, everything gets multiplied by 1000! 
 Microseconds become milliseconds, microamps become milliamps, 
 micrometers become millimeters... And there's NO WAY TO TELL that the 
 error happened unless there's a LOT of context that happens to look 
 self-contradictory.

Yes -- and microliters become milliliters. I was once hired to proofread 
product inserts for a major PHARMACEUTICAL company . . . yes, those 
densely-folded tinily-printed single pages tucked inside the box 
containing your MEDICINE . . . and those inserts were done in Framemaker 
and printed God knows where and by whom. I found multiple instances of 
mus becoming ms, and plus-or-minuses becoming plain minuses.

These symbols indicated dosages and storage temperatures. The team of 
contract proofreaders I was part of was this company's last defense 
against errors in these inserts. Since no one knew why the symbols were 
getting corrupted, no one had any confidence that our final corrections 
would make it past the printing process again. Can you imagine?

I was not comforted by the remark of a friend of mine with long 
experience in biotech: Aaah, those inserts are just there to please the 
lawyers. Nobody relies on them! I most certainly do rely on them. Don't 
you assume that those, at least, are accurate, when you pull them out of 
the box for something like, oh, your kid's medicine? Sure, your doctor 
has told you what dose to give, but still, don't you think that somebody 
has made sure that that little piece of paper is accurate?

And if people take such a cavalier attitude toward these inserts, who's 
to say that the PDF is any better?

To be perfectly honest, most of the inserts we reviewed were for 
laboratory testing kits, not end-user medicines. Still . . . if you're a 
guy nervously awaiting the results of your PSA test, wouldn't you like 
to think that the data sheet accompanying the assay materials is 
reliable?

--Nancy


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RE: Omega symbol becomes W in pdf

[Nancy Allison]

Oops -- PDF should be PDR (Physician's Desk Reference).

I should add that all symbols that combined a minus sign with other 
signs tended to drop the minus sign, so greater-than-or-equal-to 
became greater than, for example.

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RE: Omega symbol becomes W in pdf

[Nancy Allison]

I was just thinking, Well, doctors would probably catch a dosage error 
that's a thousand times greater than what they expect.

THEN I thought, Yes -- they might, but what about an automated system 
that's had the incorrect values ported into it to begin with?

A few years ago, a notorious and tragic medical mistake occurred in 
Boston. The health reporter for the Boston Globe, a beautiful young 
woman with young children, no less, was treated for breast cancer. She 
was erroneously given massive doses of one of her chemotherapy drugs, 
and no one caught the error. It killed her.

The Globe pursued the story mercilessly. One of the resulting 
improvements to medical practice was a system that would automatically 
double-check every dosage prescribed for patients. Oh, yes, I thought 
at the time, this will certainly catch situations in which a doctor's 
handwriting is illegible and the nurse misreads it, or somebody is 
simply asleep at the switch and scribbbles down the wrong thing .. . 

Well, yeah, but what if the data ported into the wonderful new automated 
system is wrong to being with? Who will guard the guards?

Just don't get sick.

--Nancy
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RE: Omega symbol becomes W in pdf

[Phil Heron]

Two things for you to check, Nancy:

1. Make sure you have the Windows Symbol font installed. This is used in some 
magic way by Distiller and it's abcense causes the sort of problem you are 
seeing.

2. In FrameMaker, check that your Symbol character tag uses the Windows 
Symbol font and NOT the Symbol Std font. Symbol Std is a private font 
installed by FrameMaker.

HTH

Phil Heron

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Allison
Sent: 17 March 2009 21:46
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Omega symbol becomes W in pdf


My document uses some special symbols, like the Omega.

To create it, I type W and then apply a Symbol character tag, which applies the 
Symbol font.

I've created PDFs from this file in two ways:

---Used Framemaker's Save as feature.

---Printed to .ps file and opened it in Acrobat Distiller. In this case, I've 
deselected Do not send fonts to printer. I believe this should assure that 
the Symbol font is sent to the printer.

Either way, the Omega character is turned back into a W in the final PDF.

This is also happening with the Symbol +/minus sign (the plus is directly over 
the minus) -- it is transformed into a plain minus sign.
NOT GOOD.

I'm sure this problem is as old as the hills, but I have Googled lots of 
phrases and have not found a good treatment of this subject.

In the short term, I'm creating .gifs of the symbols and importing them into 
the text as graphics, but that is time-consuming and clumsy.

All suggestions will be very welcome.

--Nancy
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FM9: empty list of building blocks in Para Designer

[Yves Barbion]

Hi

I'm using FM 9.0p230 and I see that the list of building blocks in the
Paragraph Designer is ... empty!

Is anyone else seeing this?


Yves
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RE: Omega symbol becomes W in pdf

[Nancy Allison]

Arthur, what is this logical printer of which you speak?

Do you mean the driver called Adobe PDF that appears in my printers 
list, even though there is no physical Adobe PDF printer?

Thankee.
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Re: Omega symbol becomes W in pdf

[Art Campbell]

Yes.
Set the Adobe PDF, which is a logical printer (because there isn't a
physical printer), as your system default (or get the plug in that
does that for you).


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 Do you mean the driver called Adobe PDF that appears in my printers
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Re: Omega symbol becomes W in pdf

[Nancy Allison]

Speaking of logical things, at my very first tech writing job, as I set 
off on this long, winding, and slightly peculiar road, my boss told a 
story about an engineer who was tired of being interrupted in his very 
own patch of cube land.

So, he stretched a string across the opening of his cube and hung a sign 
that said Logical Door.

Nobody bothered him.

Now, he was in the engineering department, and thus surrounded by fellow 
geek soulmates. Someone like me, however, would probably have 
interrupted him to ask what it meant . . . .

OK, back to work.

--Nancy

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RE: Omega symbol becomes W in pdf

[Shuttleworth, Roger]

Heh, reminds me of the IT department of the hospital where I used to work. They 
had a sign on the door that read Intel inside, Idiots outside. Time
proved that...well...it wasn't exactly true.

Roger Shuttleworth
London, Canada



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Sent: March 18, 2009 11:00 AM
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Subject: Re: Omega symbol becomes W in pdf

Speaking of logical things, at my very first tech writing job, as I set 
off on this long, winding, and slightly peculiar road, my boss told a 
story about an engineer who was tired of being interrupted in his very 
own patch of cube land.

So, he stretched a string across the opening of his cube and hung a sign 
that said Logical Door.

Nobody bothered him.

Now, he was in the engineering department, and thus surrounded by fellow 
geek soulmates. Someone like me, however, would probably have 
interrupted him to ask what it meant . . . .

OK, back to work.

--Nancy

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Re: FrameMaker 9.0.1 Update Now Available ... Come and Get It!

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

First observations:

Good news:

F8 and F9 support for type-ahead selection of character and pgf  
formats does work (again). Also, of course, Ctrl+0 for variable  
insertion, Ctrl+1/2/3 for element actions, Ctrl+4/5 for text condition  
actions.

PDF graphics are no longer RGB-rasterized when creating PDFs (RGB or  
CMYK).

Bad news:

At least in the German locale the commands popup in the Paragraph /  
Character / Table Designer does not open on mouse click. In the  
Paragraph / Table Designer it works after switching once between the  
visible tabs, but for the Character Designer this does not help. Could  
someone check this with other language versions, please?

EMF graphics turn into ugly black stripes when creating a CMYK PDF. I  
know, EMF does not know anything about CMYK, but must the result be so  
ugly...

- Michael

Am 18.03.2009 um 04:58 schrieb Dov Isaacs:

 The FrameMaker 9.0.1 update has just been released. You can get it  
 via the updates
 feature within FrameMaker (or any other current Adobe application).

   - Dov

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Re: [TCS Users] FM9: empty list of building blocks in Para Designer

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Am 18.03.2009 um 15:19 schrieb Yves Barbion:

 Hi

 I'm using FM 9.0p230 and I see that the list of building blocks in  
 the Paragraph Designer is ... empty!

Confirmed for the German UI.

- Michael


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RE: FM9: empty list of building blocks in Para Designer

[Lief Erickson]

Yes, it's empty for me too.

-Lief

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Subject: FM9: empty list of building blocks in Para Designer

Hi

I'm using FM 9.0p230 and I see that the list of building blocks in the
Paragraph Designer is ... empty!

Is anyone else seeing this?


Yves


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Font and Graphic problems after installing Acrobat 9.0

[Owen, Clint]

We use FM 7.0 p578 on Win XP, SP 3.
 
My coworker recently had Acrobat 9 Standard installed on her computer,
then the hard drive was cloned into a new box and the operating system
was reinstalled. So we don't really know what caused the problem.
 
For some FM documents, which she has worked on many times before, she
has two different problems, which we don't know to be related, but
started at the same time:
 
1. When she opens the file FM gives a message that it can't find the
font Arial Black, even though we can see it in the Windows font
directory and it shows up in the FM font list as well. She allows the
substitute and moves on.
 
2. If she tries to save the file with the same or a different name
she gets this message An internal error occurred while writing imported
graphics in this document. The file has been saved, but has lost some
image data. Please report this error to Adobe Technical Support. What
gets saved is a file like ***.814.
 
I can open the same document on my machine, which has the same versions
of FM and Windows, but Acrobat 7 Pro. She has Adobe Type Manager
installed, which I don't.
 
The IT guy is busy reinstalling FM 7.0, which is all we could think of
to try.
 
Are there any ideas or suggestions out there?
 
Thanks,
 
Clint

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Re: FrameMaker 9.0.1 Update Now Available ... Come and Get It!

[Yves Barbion]

Hi Michael

See my comments below ().

Sigh! I had hoped that never change a working feature had been the motto,
but apparently, it wasn't. I miss the good old FM 7 UI already. Some people
may find it ugly, outdated and not Adobe-like at all, but at least it
worked.

Looking forward to 9.0.2 soon. ;-)

Cheers

Yves

On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Michael Müller-Hillebrand 
m...@cap-studio.de wrote:

 First observations:

 Good news:

 F8 and F9 support for type-ahead selection of character and pgf
 formats does work (again). Also, of course, Ctrl+0 for variable
 insertion, Ctrl+1/2/3 for element actions, Ctrl+4/5 for text condition
 actions.


 Yes! Hooray, hooray! And after tweaking the maker.ini file
(“SymbolSortingBeforeAlphaNumeric=On”) the paratags in the catalog are
sorted correctly again (as in FM 7.2). Great!



 PDF graphics are no longer RGB-rasterized when creating PDFs (RGB or
 CMYK).


 Great, and normal.



 Bad news:

 At least in the German locale the commands popup in the Paragraph /
 Character / Table Designer does not open on mouse click. In the
 Paragraph / Table Designer it works after switching once between the
 visible tabs, but for the Character Designer this does not help. Could
 someone check this with other language versions, please?


  Yep, more or less the same behavior in the English UI:

   - Commands popup works in the Table Designer
   - Commands popup in the Paragraph Designer only works after I had
   switched between one of the tabs (now buttons with some strange icons, I
   wished Adobe had kept the tabs with text on it)
   - Commands popup does not work in the Character Designer

 Don't know. I have never used EMF graphics.


 EMF graphics turn into ugly black stripes when creating a CMYK PDF. I
 know, EMF does not know anything about CMYK, but must the result be so
 ugly...






 - Michael

 Am 18.03.2009 um 04:58 schrieb Dov Isaacs:

  The FrameMaker 9.0.1 update has just been released. You can get it
  via the updates
  feature within FrameMaker (or any other current Adobe application).
 
- Dov

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RE: Font and Graphic problems after installing Acrobat 9.0

[Lea Rush]

Hi Clint,

Here's what a quick Google found. I'm not berating you for not looking; I'm
just building my troubleshooting skills for my own use. (Of course, I'll
keep relying on this list for its vast learning opportunities).

OLE images, especially on SP3:

http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/2008-June/012880.html

For a long and very informative discussion on the error, especially as
regards SP3 (including our own Art Campbell), look here:

http://www.adobeforums.com/webx?14@@.59b54413/0

Might also be network-related:

http://objectmix.com/adobe-framemaker/783047-internal-error-when-saving-fram
e-file.html

Good luck!
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To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Font and Graphic problems after installing Acrobat 9.0

We use FM 7.0 p578 on Win XP, SP 3.
 
My coworker recently had Acrobat 9 Standard installed on her computer,
then the hard drive was cloned into a new box and the operating system
was reinstalled. So we don't really know what caused the problem.
 
For some FM documents, which she has worked on many times before, she
has two different problems, which we don't know to be related, but
started at the same time:
 
1. When she opens the file FM gives a message that it can't find the
font Arial Black, even though we can see it in the Windows font
directory and it shows up in the FM font list as well. She allows the
substitute and moves on.
 
2. If she tries to save the file with the same or a different name
she gets this message An internal error occurred while writing imported
graphics in this document. The file has been saved, but has lost some
image data. Please report this error to Adobe Technical Support. What
gets saved is a file like ***.814.
 
I can open the same document on my machine, which has the same versions
of FM and Windows, but Acrobat 7 Pro. She has Adobe Type Manager
installed, which I don't.
 
The IT guy is busy reinstalling FM 7.0, which is all we could think of
to try.
 
Are there any ideas or suggestions out there?
 
Thanks,
 
Clint

Clinton Owen | Senior Technical Writer | Crane Aerospace  Electronics |
Telephone: +1 425-743-8674 | Fax: +1 425-743-8113

 



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Repeating Footnotes in FrameMaker

[Shmuel Wolfson]

I have a table with footnotes that apply to several cells. I use one 
real footnote reference and a few more look-a-like references that are 
just subscript numbers. Is there any right way to do this so that all 
the numbers are automatically updated when I add another footnote? 

For example: 
(Pretend the numbers are superscript.)

Pants 1
Shirts 1
Sweaters 1
Apples 2
Oranges 2

1
   You can find these in the clothing section.

2 
   You can find these in the fruit section.


-- 
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RE: Repeating Footnotes in FrameMaker

[Fred Ridder]

The way I've always done this is to use cross-references to the footnote item 
for the additional reference points. Just create an x-ref format that specifies 
the $paranumonly building block with a superscripted character format applied 
to it.

-Fred Ridder


 
 Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:24:19 +0200
 From: shmue...@gmail.com
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com; techsho...@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Repeating Footnotes in FrameMaker
 
 I have a table with footnotes that apply to several cells. I use one 
 real footnote reference and a few more look-a-like references that are 
 just subscript numbers. Is there any right way to do this so that all 
 the numbers are automatically updated when I add another footnote? 
 
 For example: 
 (Pretend the numbers are superscript.)
 
 Pants 1
 Shirts 1
 Sweaters 1
 Apples 2
 Oranges 2
 
 1
 You can find these in the clothing section.
 
 2 
 You can find these in the fruit section.
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RE: Font and Graphic problems after installing Acrobat 9.0

[Mike Feimster]

Clint,

For the font problem check out
http://www.timawa.com/font-problems-after-installing-windows-xp-sp3/

You might need to actually uninstall the new version and install the new
version using the control panel.

Mike

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Owen, Clint
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 12:39 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Font and Graphic problems after installing Acrobat 9.0

We use FM 7.0 p578 on Win XP, SP 3.
 
My coworker recently had Acrobat 9 Standard installed on her computer,
then the hard drive was cloned into a new box and the operating system
was reinstalled. So we don't really know what caused the problem.
 
For some FM documents, which she has worked on many times before, she
has two different problems, which we don't know to be related, but
started at the same time:
 
1. When she opens the file FM gives a message that it can't find the
font Arial Black, even though we can see it in the Windows font
directory and it shows up in the FM font list as well. She allows the
substitute and moves on.
 
2. If she tries to save the file with the same or a different name
she gets this message An internal error occurred while writing imported
graphics in this document. The file has been saved, but has lost some
image data. Please report this error to Adobe Technical Support. What
gets saved is a file like ***.814.
 
I can open the same document on my machine, which has the same versions
of FM and Windows, but Acrobat 7 Pro. She has Adobe Type Manager
installed, which I don't.
 
The IT guy is busy reinstalling FM 7.0, which is all we could think of
to try.
 
Are there any ideas or suggestions out there?
 
Thanks,
 
Clint

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Telephone: +1 425-743-8674 | Fax: +1 425-743-8113

 



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RE: Font and Graphic problems after installing Acrobat 9.0

[Syed.Hosain]

I would start by removing Adobe Type Manager from her system. It is an
old, essentially unsupported Adobe product and was not *really* intended
to be used after Windows NT or Windows 2000 (I forget which). ATM may be
interacting improperly with the built-in font support inside Windows XP.

Frankly, the font control and support inside the newer operating systems
are better than what you can get with ATM, since that has not been
touched in ages by Adobe.

Z

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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Owen, Clint
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:39 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Font and Graphic problems after installing Acrobat 9.0

We use FM 7.0 p578 on Win XP, SP 3.
 
My coworker recently had Acrobat 9 Standard installed on her computer,
then the hard drive was cloned into a new box and the operating system
was reinstalled. So we don't really know what caused the problem.
 
For some FM documents, which she has worked on many times before, she
has two different problems, which we don't know to be related, but
started at the same time:
 
1. When she opens the file FM gives a message that it can't find the
font Arial Black, even though we can see it in the Windows font
directory and it shows up in the FM font list as well. She allows the
substitute and moves on.
 
2. If she tries to save the file with the same or a different name
she gets this message An internal error occurred while writing imported
graphics in this document. The file has been saved, but has lost some
image data. Please report this error to Adobe Technical Support. What
gets saved is a file like ***.814.
 
I can open the same document on my machine, which has the same versions
of FM and Windows, but Acrobat 7 Pro. She has Adobe Type Manager
installed, which I don't.
 
The IT guy is busy reinstalling FM 7.0, which is all we could think of
to try.
 
Are there any ideas or suggestions out there?
 
Thanks,
 
Clint

Clinton Owen | Senior Technical Writer | Crane Aerospace  Electronics |
Telephone: +1 425-743-8674 | Fax: +1 425-743-8113

 



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RE: Font and Graphic problems after installing Acrobat 9.0

[Owen, Clint]

Lea,

Thank you for the clue that solved the problem!

I had started to reply that we never OLE objects or Visio files, and that we 
all had SP 3 previously installed, etc. But then I decided to actually check. 
The documents in question are not our normal Component Maintenance Manuals or 
Service Bulletins. They are quick start guides for a new product, and happen to 
be loaded with Visio OLEs! It also turns out that her computer was only up to 
SP2 until she was moved to a new box, at which time SP3 was installed. I was 
able to open and save the problem files because my machine is also at SP2.

Thanks also to Mike Feimster for pointing out a known problem with the version 
of Arial Black that comes with SP3.

This is a great list!

Clint


Clinton Owen | Senior Technical Writer | Crane Aerospace  Electronics | 
Telephone: +1 425-743-8674 | Fax: +1 425-743-8113


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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Lea Rush
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 10:44 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Font and Graphic problems after installing Acrobat 9.0

Hi Clint,

Here's what a quick Google found. I'm not berating you for not looking; I'm 
just building my troubleshooting skills for my own use. (Of course, I'll keep 
relying on this list for its vast learning opportunities).

OLE images, especially on SP3:

http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/2008-June/012880.html

For a long and very informative discussion on the error, especially as regards 
SP3 (including our own Art Campbell), look here:

http://www.adobeforums.com/webx?14@@.59b54413/0

Might also be network-related:

http://objectmix.com/adobe-framemaker/783047-internal-error-when-saving-fram
e-file.html

Good luck!
Lea




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PO Box 830 Clackamas OR 97015
PH: 800-657-3010
FAX:  503-655-7367 


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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Owen, Clint
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:39 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Font and Graphic problems after installing Acrobat 9.0

We use FM 7.0 p578 on Win XP, SP 3.
 
My coworker recently had Acrobat 9 Standard installed on her computer, then the 
hard drive was cloned into a new box and the operating system was reinstalled. 
So we don't really know what caused the problem.
 
For some FM documents, which she has worked on many times before, she has two 
different problems, which we don't know to be related, but started at the same 
time:
 
1. When she opens the file FM gives a message that it can't find the font 
Arial Black, even though we can see it in the Windows font directory and it 
shows up in the FM font list as well. She allows the substitute and moves on.
 
2. If she tries to save the file with the same or a different name she gets 
this message An internal error occurred while writing imported graphics in 
this document. The file has been saved, but has lost some image data. Please 
report this error to Adobe Technical Support. What gets saved is a file like 
***.814.
 
I can open the same document on my machine, which has the same versions of FM 
and Windows, but Acrobat 7 Pro. She has Adobe Type Manager installed, which I 
don't.
 
The IT guy is busy reinstalling FM 7.0, which is all we could think of to try.
 
Are there any ideas or suggestions out there?
 
Thanks,
 
Clint

Clinton Owen | Senior Technical Writer | Crane Aerospace  Electronics |
Telephone: +1 425-743-8674 | Fax: +1 425-743-8113

 



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FrameMaker 9 Bug: Find in Book Displays Incorrect Page

[Mike Wickham]

Does anyone else see this in FrameMaker 9? If I choose Find in Book, 
FrameMaker searches and finds items, but rather than displaying the page 
that contains the item, it displays the first page of the chapter that 
contains the item. The found item may be many pages away, and is not always 
highlighted. I sometimes see the highlighted item flash on screen for a 
moment before the page jumps back to the first page of the chapter.

Mike Wickham


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RE: Omega symbol becomes W in pdf

[Stuti Arora]

Which version of Frame are you using? If you are using FM 8 or above, you could 
follow Andrew's advice and use Unicode characters with a Unicode Symbol font, 
which would be the ideal solution. But if you are on FM7.2 or earlier, you 
would need to ensure that Symbol font is available to the distiller (is in its 
path/ is embeddable), as others mentioned.

Thanks,
Stuti
FrameMaker Developer

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Warren
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 4:59 AM
To: 'Nancy Allison'; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Omega symbol becomes W in pdf

Nancy Allison wrote:

 My document uses some special symbols, like the Omega.

 To create it, I type W and then apply a Symbol character tag, which
 applies the Symbol font.

Nancy:

Don't ever do that.  If you really need an omega, get it within a non-Symbol 
font by following the advice near the end of the following rant, which is a 
slightly-edited copy of something I posted a couple years ago to the techwr-l 
list...

Using the Symbol font to produce an omega is bad, but not likely to kill anyone.

With omega/W:

  If you're viewing the document in a web browser that's been
  configured to use your favorite fonts rather than the fonts
  specified by the document, the omega symbols become Ws.

  Google ignores font information in its text searches, so when
  it indexes a page, it sees (and displays in search results) a
  W wherever there's a Symbol-font omega.

  If your browser isn't configured to use your own fonts, the
  omegas will probably look fine there... But as soon as you
  cut-and-paste from the browser window to another application,
  like Frame or Word, the omegas become Ws.

  If you send the document through an email system that strips
  HTML, the omegas become Ws.

  If you send it to a printer that doesn't have the Symbol font,
  the omegas become Ws.

  If you view it on a computer that doesn't have the Symbol font,
  the omegas become Ws.

In most of these cases, the font information is permanently lost once the 
document's omega symbols become Ws.  They never switch back, even if the 
document is subsequently viewed in a system which CAN display HTML or the 
Symbol font.

The W-instead-of-omega problem isn't limited to web pages; I see it ALL THE 
TIME in published datasheets, application notes, user's manuals, trade journal 
articles, etc.

Fortunately, the error is easy to spot, since the erroneous W usually makes 
no sense, and the intended meaning can generally be deduced from the context.

However...

If you use the Symbol font to make ANOTHER Greek letter, the mu, you really 
MIGHT kill someone:

The Greek letter mu is often used in engineering and scientific writing to 
represent the prefix micro- (one millionth).  In the old days, before we all 
had access to fancy computer typefaces, typewritten documents would use the 
lowercase u instead of mu, since the two letters look very similar.

Lowercase 'u' means 'mu' means 'micro-' was a universally-understood 
convention (among engineers and scientists, anyway): usec = microseconds, uF = 
microfarads, uA = microamps... Even uP = microprocessor.  No one was ever 
confused by this, and all was well until some pedantic dumbass noticed that he 
could make the unit names in his documents correct by using the Symbol-font 
mu instead of the lowercase u that we'd all been happy with for decades.

The result, of course, is the same as for omega, with one small but fatal 
difference:

Omega maps to the W character, which almost always looks like an error 
(e.g., 4.7kW, 1/8-watt resistor) but mu maps to the m character, which is 
the symbol for the prefix milli- (one thousandth).

Since m-for-milli can be reasonably used almost anywhere that mu-for-micro 
can, it NEVER looks like an error!

You thought NASA's metric-vs-English mistakes were boneheaded?  In those cases, 
numbers were off by a factor of 4.45, but when the mu-to-m error occurs, 
everything gets multiplied by 1000!  Microseconds become milliseconds, 
microamps become milliamps, micrometers become millimeters... And there's NO 
WAY TO TELL that the error happened unless there's a LOT of context that 
happens to look self-contradictory.

Since it's so hard to identify the mu-to-m error, it's difficult to know how 
prevalent it is, but I'd guess that it happens at least as frequently as the 
omega-to-W error that I see everywhere.

There are actually a few places where a mu-to-m error would be obvious, and I 
often see it there... Like, for instance, in the US Navy's NRaD Writing and 
Editorial Guidelines:

http://www.spawar.navy.mil/sti/publications/pubs/td/1064/td1064appb.html

It contains a list of abbreviations that includes both micro- and milli- units. 
 It's obvious that a mu-to-m error has occurred, since the list shows m for 
both sets of units.

I no longer approve documents that use the Symbol font for 

Re: Exporting to TypePad

[Ceri Richard]

TypePad (http://www.typepad.com/) is the hosted version of the Moveable Type
(http://www.movabletype.org/) CMS.

Ted, Art is right in saying that converting to html with mif2go is an option
but I guess it depends on how much formatting has been done in Frame and how
much of that formatting you want to keep. I think you'll also need to switch
off the default html editor in the TyePad dashboard (or the admin area where
you write posts - sorry, it's been a long while since I've used TypePad!)

I'm not clear from your question whether you want to convert the whole book
and output it to a multitude of posts or whether you want to cherry pick
isolated paragraphs as posts. If it's the latter, it could be simpler to
copy chunks of text as you need them into a text editor (e.g. Notepad on
Windows or one of the many excellent free editors out there) and format the
html as you go.

More information please!

ceri

On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.comwrote:

 Ted,

 You should be able to simply copy-and-paste anything from a Frame file
 directly into any other program. I'm not familiar with TypePad, but if
 it's a Windows program it should take stuff from the Clipboard.

 If you're asking about converting the entire book to text... first, I
 wouldn't bother if it was me, but if you want to do that, I believe
 that MIF2Go (free trail from omsys.com) will output to text. However,
 MIF2Go also ouputs to HTML, which may be a better choice for importing
 into a blog.

 Art

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 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
   DoD 358



 On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Ted Steinberg mtedsteinb...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  1st. I would like to export unstructured Frame 7.1 paragraphs directly
  into whatever TypePad uses for creating blog posts; paste in is OK.
  TypePad's support FAQ'a contain nothing on Framemaker.  I have about
  4500 journal entries (paragraphs) into a 1,400 page Frame Book w/an
  APL, TOC, and 50 chapters, of marketing concept notes taken over 20+
  years; a few of my previous clients have asked me to put the best ones
  into one or more blogs - for their sales  marketing staffs. The idea
  of having to retype them and redo them is a bit much; I even called
  Methuselah, he's older than I, but not by much, but he was too busy
  with his own memoirs, given all those wives, to offer any advice other
  than to not take steroids or Viagra or any performance enhancing
  substances; but he did recommend that any advice from a Framer, though
  addictive, was OK. So if anyone has some advise on how to do get from
  Frame to a TypePad Blog with a minimum of pain I would be most
  welcome.
 
  2nd. I lost the WebWorks program that came with Frame, and it is not
  installed. I mention this because, the thought is gnawing at my
  clouded brain, that maybe it was good for something like this. If it
  would be handy to have, any idea how I can get the program for the
  price of a thank you? Like shipping it in a returning Banana Boat?
 
  Regards from a retired Californian living in Costa Rica, having
  improved the IQ's of both areas, although my Costa Rican relatives may
  take exception to this remark.
 
  TED
 
 
  --
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  Apartado 185-7150
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Table Format

[luca finocchiaro]

A simple question, I put a Format A table in my document, I change the
column width and save as xml, but when I reopen the document the width not
change, can I drop the table width attribute in r/w rules to customize my
tables? Or how can I fix this problem?thank you.
macweaz
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RE: [TCS Users] FM9: empty list of building blocks in Para Designer

[Mahesh Kumar Gupta]

* I work with Adobe Systems *

Hello All

I know that 9.0.1 has brought many fixes but unfortunately, a couple of issues 
have crept in. However, there is a workaround which is:

a)Make sure Hide Panels on Close if OFF in 
File-Preferences-Interface dialog (once we do this, this setting persists for 
all subsequent FM session)
b)Close Para/Character/Table Designer once and reopen. This will 
fix the issue. (need to be done once for FM session)

Thanks and regards
Mahesh

Product Manager 
Adobe FrameMaker
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Subject: Re: [TCS Users] FM9: empty list of building blocks in Para Designer

Am 18.03.2009 um 15:19 schrieb Yves Barbion:

 Hi

 I'm using FM 9.0p230 and I see that the list of building blocks in  
 the Paragraph Designer is ... empty!

Confirmed for the German UI.

- Michael


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Ref: FM 9 bugs - I have noticed.

[Karen Mann]

1. FrameMaker searches and finds items, but rather than displaying the
page that contains the item, it displays the first page of the chapter
that contains the item. The found item may be many pages away, and is
not always highlighted. I sometimes see the highlighted item flash on
screen for a moment before the page jumps back to the first page of the
chapter.

2. Building blocks now missing after 9.0.1 update. 

3. Have had bullets change size and all conform to one size instead of
the 2 different assigned tags. Have to save Book after making changes to
part of the book.

4. Crash on printing from other print driver than the PDF.

5. Now cannot undo if graphic inserted and I don't want it, I have to
close without saving and then reopen to start all over. 

 

 

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Webinar: "Effective PDF Bookmarks with FM-to-Acrobat TimeSavers" (March 23)

[Shlomo Perets]

"Effective PDF Bookmarks with FM-to-Acrobat TimeSavers" one-hour webinar (free)
Monday, March 23, starting 10am PDT | 1pm EDT | 17pm UTC/GMT

How to Improve bookmark hierarchy and visibility of FrameMaker-generated 
bookmarks, and how to easily add useful bookmarks through hypertext markers 
(with FrameMaker-to-Acrobat TimeSavers) -- pointing to other PDFs or web 
pages, instantly providing e-mail feedback, launching external files, 
starting Acrobat/Reader actions (eg common search phrases) and much more.

To register to this free one-hour webinar, please write to 
timesavers at microtype.com


Shlomo Perets

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"30 Easy Ways to Improve Your PDFs with TimeSavers/Assistants"
http://www.microtype.com/ImprovePDF.html

Hypertext links for page numbers in PDF contents

[Shlomo Perets]

Lori,

You wrote:

>I generated a TOC using the standard process, that is, Add Table of
>Contents, include tags, create hypertext links. I can generate a PDF,
>which works fine. In the Table of Contents, the links to the headings
>are working; however, the customer also wants the little hand to appear
>over the page number and links to work for the page numbers-not just the
>headings. Thus, the customer needs to be able to click anywhere on the
>line, not just the heading.
>
>Is there any easy way to set it up in Frame?


To have the entire TOC paragraph active (including its page number), avoid 
character formatting in TOC items on the Reference page TOC specification 
(eg, H1TOC should be blue and/or the same font/size throughout.)

However, the problem may still be encountered when source TOC items 
retrieved have character properties such as subscript, superscript or font 
changes -- some examples can be found at 
http://www.microtype.com/Hmmms.html#0305

If character formats in the TOC cannot be avoided (either retrieved from 
source paragraphs or required by design), I recommend using FrameScript to 
duplicate the hypertext marker present at the beginning of each TOC entry 
for each distinct character format area within that entry (independently of 
whether this property change comes from the TOC specification on the 
Reference page or from the source TOC item).
Such a script can also be extended to deal with other TOC problems.


Shlomo Perets

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Best graphic format for TCS (FM and RH)

[Yves Barbion]

Hi Diane

I'm using the following:

   - PNG for line art and screen shots in my HTML-based output (CHM,
   webhelp...), because GIF supports only 256 colors
   - EPS or PDF for line art in my PDF output. In FrameMaker, PDF has a
   better preview than EPS

For more information on graphic file formats, see:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_file_format


Cheers

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On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 3:11 AM, Diane Gaskill wrote:

>
> Hi Frameusers,
>
> We're having a bit of a debate at my office regarding the best graphics
> format to import to FM, not only for use in FM, but also for RH, because we
> use the TCS (FM8/AB8/RH7).  We also using Captivate to record some GUI
> walkthroughs.
>
> Our manuals contain a combination of up to 175 color photos, screenshots
> and line drawings.  They are designed to be used primarily on line.  We
> print only 3 or 4 small getting started guides.  These are short runs on a
> Docutech or equivalent, and generally in B/W.  No Heidelbergs, no 4-color
> printing.
>
> The rest of the 200 or so docs are delivered in PDF to the customers. Users
> can, of course, print them on a local printer.
>
> Our localization vendor recommended GIF because we do not print the
> manuals, and this helps keep the file sizes small.  However, in addition to
> GIF, we found that we need to use at least one other format.  The line
> drawings from the engineering source docs look great in Paintshop Pro in GIF
> format, but the GIF filter in FM displays them badly.  When we convert the
> GIF files to WMF and import that into FM, the graphics display fine.
>
> Hope to hear back from some of you soon.  We've got a meeting tomorrow
> about this.
>
> Thanks lots everyone,
>
> Diane Gaskill
> Hitachi Data Systems
>
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Omega symbol becomes W in pdf

[Nancy Allison]

Andrew says:



> You thought NASA's metric-vs-English mistakes were boneheaded?  In 
> those cases, numbers were off by a factor of 4.45, but when the 
> mu-to-m error occurs, everything gets multiplied by 1000! 
> Microseconds become milliseconds, microamps become milliamps, 
> micrometers become millimeters... And there's NO WAY TO TELL that the 
> error happened unless there's a LOT of context that happens to look 
> self-contradictory.

Yes -- and microliters become milliliters. I was once hired to proofread 
product inserts for a major PHARMACEUTICAL company . . . yes, those 
densely-folded tinily-printed single pages tucked inside the box 
containing your MEDICINE . . . and those inserts were done in Framemaker 
and printed God knows where and by whom. I found multiple instances of 
mus becoming ms, and plus-or-minuses becoming plain minuses.

These symbols indicated dosages and storage temperatures. The team of 
contract proofreaders I was part of was this company's last defense 
against errors in these inserts. Since no one knew why the symbols were 
getting corrupted, no one had any confidence that our final corrections 
would make it past the printing process again. Can you imagine?

I was not comforted by the remark of a friend of mine with long 
experience in biotech: "Aaah, those inserts are just there to please the 
lawyers. Nobody relies on them!" I most certainly do rely on them. Don't 
you assume that those, at least, are accurate, when you pull them out of 
the box for something like, oh, your kid's medicine? Sure, your doctor 
has told you what dose to give, but still, don't you think that somebody 
has made sure that that little piece of paper is accurate?

And if people take such a cavalier attitude toward these inserts, who's 
to say that the PDF is any better?

To be perfectly honest, most of the inserts we reviewed were for 
laboratory testing kits, not end-user medicines. Still . . . if you're a 
guy nervously awaiting the results of your PSA test, wouldn't you like 
to think that the data sheet accompanying the assay materials is 
reliable?

--Nancy

>

Omega symbol becomes W in pdf

[Nancy Allison]

Oops -- PDF should be PDR (Physician's Desk Reference).

I should add that all symbols that combined a minus sign with other 
signs tended to drop the minus sign, so "greater-than-or-equal-to" 
became "greater than," for example.

Omega symbol becomes W in pdf

[Nancy Allison]

I was just thinking, "Well, doctors would probably catch a dosage error 
that's a thousand times greater than what they expect."

THEN I thought, "Yes -- they might, but what about an automated system 
that's had the incorrect values ported into it to begin with?"

A few years ago, a notorious and tragic medical mistake occurred in 
Boston. The health reporter for the Boston Globe, a beautiful young 
woman with young children, no less, was treated for breast cancer. She 
was erroneously given massive doses of one of her chemotherapy drugs, 
and no one caught the error. It killed her.

The Globe pursued the story mercilessly. One of the resulting 
"improvements" to medical practice was a system that would automatically 
double-check every dosage prescribed for patients. "Oh, yes," I thought 
at the time, "this will certainly catch situations in which a doctor's 
handwriting is illegible and the nurse misreads it, or somebody is 
simply asleep at the switch and scribbbles down the wrong thing .. . "

Well, yeah, but what if the data ported into the wonderful new automated 
system is wrong to being with? Who will guard the guards?

Just don't get sick.

--Nancy

Omega symbol becomes W in pdf

[Phil Heron]

Two things for you to check, Nancy:

1. Make sure you have the Windows Symbol font installed. This is used in some 
magic way by Distiller and it's abcense causes the sort of problem you are 
seeing.

2. In FrameMaker, check that your Symbol character tag uses the Windows 
"Symbol" font and NOT the "Symbol Std" font. Symbol Std is a private font 
installed by FrameMaker.

HTH

Phil Heron

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Allison
Sent: 17 March 2009 21:46
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Omega symbol becomes W in pdf


My document uses some special symbols, like the Omega.

To create it, I type W and then apply a Symbol character tag, which applies the 
Symbol font.

I've created PDFs from this file in two ways:

---Used Framemaker's "Save as" feature.

---Printed to .ps file and opened it in Acrobat Distiller. In this case, I've 
deselected "Do not send fonts to printer." I believe this should assure that 
the Symbol font is sent to the printer.

Either way, the Omega character is turned back into a W in the final PDF.

This is also happening with the Symbol +/minus sign (the plus is directly over 
the minus) -- it is transformed into a plain minus sign.
NOT GOOD.

I'm sure this problem is as old as the hills, but I have Googled lots of 
phrases and have not found a good treatment of this subject.

In the short term, I'm creating .gifs of the symbols and importing them into 
the text as graphics, but that is time-consuming and clumsy.

All suggestions will be very welcome.

--Nancy
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Omega symbol becomes W in pdf

[Nancy Allison]

Arthur, what is this "logical printer" of which you speak?

Do you mean the driver called "Adobe PDF" that appears in my printers 
list, even though there is no physical Adobe PDF printer?

Thankee.

Omega symbol becomes W in pdf

[Art Campbell]

Yes.
Set the Adobe PDF, which is a logical printer (because there isn't a
physical printer), as your system default (or get the plug in that
does that for you).


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> Arthur, what is this "logical printer" of which you speak?
>
> Do you mean the driver called "Adobe PDF" that appears in my printers
> list, even though there is no physical Adobe PDF printer?
>
> Thankee.
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Omega symbol becomes W in pdf

[Nancy Allison]

  OK, I set Adobe PDF as my default. Same results.

However, someone pointed me to a document that worked correctly. The 
ONLY difference I can see between that doc and mine is that the writer 
did NOT create a Frame character tag called Symbol that applied the 
Symbol font (Symbol, not Symbol Std).

Instead, he evidently went to the Format/Fonts menu and applied Symbol 
(not Symbol Std) directly from there.

The characters I created that way survived the translation to PDF. (So 
did the characters I cut and pasted from the correct doc into mine. So 
evidently the Distiller font settings are not the issue.)

Any thoughts as to why this made a difference?

Thanks one and all -- what a nasty problem.

--Nancy

Omega symbol becomes W in pdf

[Nancy Allison]

Speaking of logical things, at my very first tech writing job, as I set 
off on this long, winding, and slightly peculiar road, my boss told a 
story about an engineer who was tired of being interrupted in his very 
own patch of cube land.

So, he stretched a string across the opening of his cube and hung a sign 
that said "Logical Door."

Nobody bothered him.

Now, he was in the engineering department, and thus surrounded by fellow 
geek soulmates. Someone like me, however, would probably have 
interrupted him to ask what it meant . . . .

OK, back to work.

--Nancy

Omega symbol becomes W in pdf

[Shuttleworth, Roger]

Heh, reminds me of the IT department of the hospital where I used to work. They 
had a sign on the door that read "Intel inside, Idiots outside". Time
proved that...well...it wasn't exactly true.

Roger Shuttleworth
London, Canada



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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Allison
Sent: March 18, 2009 11:00 AM
To: Art Campbell
Cc: framers
Subject: Re: Omega symbol becomes W in pdf

Speaking of logical things, at my very first tech writing job, as I set 
off on this long, winding, and slightly peculiar road, my boss told a 
story about an engineer who was tired of being interrupted in his very 
own patch of cube land.

So, he stretched a string across the opening of his cube and hung a sign 
that said "Logical Door."

Nobody bothered him.

Now, he was in the engineering department, and thus surrounded by fellow 
geek soulmates. Someone like me, however, would probably have 
interrupted him to ask what it meant . . . .

OK, back to work.

--Nancy

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FrameMaker 9.0.1 Update Now Available ... Come and Get It!

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

First observations:

Good news:

F8 and F9 support for type-ahead selection of character and pgf  
formats does work (again). Also, of course, Ctrl+0 for variable  
insertion, Ctrl+1/2/3 for element actions, Ctrl+4/5 for text condition  
actions.

PDF graphics are no longer RGB-rasterized when creating PDFs (RGB or  
CMYK).

Bad news:

At least in the German locale the commands popup in the Paragraph /  
Character / Table Designer does not open on mouse click. In the  
Paragraph / Table Designer it works after switching once between the  
visible tabs, but for the Character Designer this does not help. Could  
someone check this with other language versions, please?

EMF graphics turn into ugly black stripes when creating a CMYK PDF. I  
know, EMF does not know anything about CMYK, but must the result be so  
ugly...

- Michael

Am 18.03.2009 um 04:58 schrieb Dov Isaacs:

> The FrameMaker 9.0.1 update has just been released. You can get it  
> via the updates
> feature within FrameMaker (or any other current Adobe application).
>
>   - Dov

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[TCS Users] FM9: empty list of building blocks in Para Designer

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Am 18.03.2009 um 15:19 schrieb Yves Barbion:

> Hi
>
> I'm using FM 9.0p230 and I see that the list of building blocks in  
> the Paragraph Designer is ... empty!

Confirmed for the German UI.

- Michael


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FM9: empty list of building blocks in Para Designer

[Lief Erickson]

Yes, it's empty for me too.

-Lief

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Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:19 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com; TCS-Users at googlegroups.com
Subject: FM9: empty list of building blocks in Para Designer

Hi

I'm using FM 9.0p230 and I see that the list of building blocks in the
Paragraph Designer is ... empty!

Is anyone else seeing this?


Yves


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FrameMaker 9.0.1 Update Now Available ... Come and Get It!

[Yves Barbion]

Hi Michael

See my comments below (>).

Sigh! I had hoped that "never change a working feature" had been the motto,
but apparently, it wasn't. I miss the good old FM 7 UI already. Some people
may find it ugly, outdated and not Adobe-like at all, but at least it
worked.

Looking forward to 9.0.2 soon. ;-)

Cheers

Yves

On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Michael M?ller-Hillebrand <
mmh at cap-studio.de> wrote:

> First observations:
>
> Good news:
>
> F8 and F9 support for type-ahead selection of character and pgf
> formats does work (again). Also, of course, Ctrl+0 for variable
> insertion, Ctrl+1/2/3 for element actions, Ctrl+4/5 for text condition
> actions.


> Yes! Hooray, hooray! And after tweaking the maker.ini file
(?SymbolSortingBeforeAlphaNumeric=On?) the paratags in the catalog are
sorted correctly again (as in FM 7.2). Great!

>
>
> PDF graphics are no longer RGB-rasterized when creating PDFs (RGB or
> CMYK).


 >Great, and normal.

>
>
> Bad news:
>
> At least in the German locale the commands popup in the Paragraph /
> Character / Table Designer does not open on mouse click. In the
> Paragraph / Table Designer it works after switching once between the
> visible tabs, but for the Character Designer this does not help. Could
> someone check this with other language versions, please?


>  Yep, more or less the same behavior in the English UI:

   - Commands popup works in the Table Designer
   - Commands popup in the Paragraph Designer only works after I had
   switched between one of the "tabs" (now buttons with some strange icons, I
   wished Adobe had kept the tabs with text on it)
   - Commands popup does not work in the Character Designer

> Don't know. I have never used EMF graphics.

>
> EMF graphics turn into ugly black stripes when creating a CMYK PDF. I
> know, EMF does not know anything about CMYK, but must the result be so
> ugly...




>
>
> - Michael
>
> Am 18.03.2009 um 04:58 schrieb Dov Isaacs:
>
> > The FrameMaker 9.0.1 update has just been released. You can get it
> > via the updates
> > feature within FrameMaker (or any other current Adobe application).
> >
> >   - Dov
>
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Font and Graphic problems after installing Acrobat 9.0

[Owen, Clint]

We use FM 7.0 p578 on Win XP, SP 3.

My coworker recently had Acrobat 9 Standard installed on her computer,
then the hard drive was cloned into a new box and the operating system
was reinstalled. So we don't really know what caused the problem.

For some FM documents, which she has worked on many times before, she
has two different problems, which we don't know to be related, but
started at the same time:

1. When she opens the file FM gives a message that it can't find the
font Arial Black, even though we can see it in the Windows font
directory and it shows up in the FM font list as well. She allows the
substitute and moves on.

2. If she tries to save the file with the same or a different name
she gets this message "An internal error occurred while writing imported
graphics in this document. The file has been saved, but has lost some
image data. Please report this error to Adobe Technical Support." What
gets saved is a file like "***.814".

I can open the same document on my machine, which has the same versions
of FM and Windows, but Acrobat 7 Pro. She has Adobe Type Manager
installed, which I don't.

The IT guy is busy reinstalling FM 7.0, which is all we could think of
to try.

Are there any ideas or suggestions out there?

Thanks,

Clint

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Repeating Footnotes in FrameMaker

[Shmuel Wolfson]

I have a table with footnotes that apply to several cells. I use one 
real footnote reference and a few more look-a-like references that are 
just subscript numbers. Is there any "right" way to do this so that all 
the numbers are automatically updated when I add another footnote? 

For example: 
(Pretend the numbers are superscript.)

Pants 1
Shirts 1
Sweaters 1
Apples 2
Oranges 2

1
   You can find these in the clothing section.

2 
   You can find these in the fruit section.


-- 
Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
052-763-7133

Font and Graphic problems after installing Acrobat 9.0

[Lea Rush]

Hi Clint,

Here's what a quick Google found. I'm not berating you for not looking; I'm
just building my troubleshooting skills for my own use. (Of course, I'll
keep relying on this list for its vast learning opportunities).

OLE images, especially on SP3:

http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/2008-June/012880.html

For a long and very informative discussion on the error, especially as
regards SP3 (including our own Art Campbell), look here:

http://www.adobeforums.com/webx?14@@.59b54413/0

Might also be network-related:

http://objectmix.com/adobe-framemaker/783047-internal-error-when-saving-fram
e-file.html

Good luck!
Lea




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Software and Documentation Specialist 
Astoria-Pacific International 
PO Box 830 Clackamas OR 97015 
PH: 800-657-3010 
FAX:? 503-655-7367 


-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Owen, Clint
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:39 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Font and Graphic problems after installing Acrobat 9.0

We use FM 7.0 p578 on Win XP, SP 3.

My coworker recently had Acrobat 9 Standard installed on her computer,
then the hard drive was cloned into a new box and the operating system
was reinstalled. So we don't really know what caused the problem.

For some FM documents, which she has worked on many times before, she
has two different problems, which we don't know to be related, but
started at the same time:

1. When she opens the file FM gives a message that it can't find the
font Arial Black, even though we can see it in the Windows font
directory and it shows up in the FM font list as well. She allows the
substitute and moves on.

2. If she tries to save the file with the same or a different name
she gets this message "An internal error occurred while writing imported
graphics in this document. The file has been saved, but has lost some
image data. Please report this error to Adobe Technical Support." What
gets saved is a file like "***.814".

I can open the same document on my machine, which has the same versions
of FM and Windows, but Acrobat 7 Pro. She has Adobe Type Manager
installed, which I don't.

The IT guy is busy reinstalling FM 7.0, which is all we could think of
to try.

Are there any ideas or suggestions out there?

Thanks,

Clint

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Repeating Footnotes in FrameMaker

[Fred Ridder]

The way I've always done this is to use cross-references to the footnote item 
for the additional reference points. Just create an x-ref format that specifies 
the <$paranumonly> building block with a superscripted character format applied 
to it.

-Fred Ridder



> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:24:19 +0200
> From: shmuelw1 at gmail.com
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com; techshoret at yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Repeating Footnotes in FrameMaker
> 
> I have a table with footnotes that apply to several cells. I use one 
> real footnote reference and a few more look-a-like references that are 
> just subscript numbers. Is there any "right" way to do this so that all 
> the numbers are automatically updated when I add another footnote? 
> 
> For example: 
> (Pretend the numbers are superscript.)
> 
> Pants 1
> Shirts 1
> Sweaters 1
> Apples 2
> Oranges 2
> 
> 1
> You can find these in the clothing section.
> 
> 2 
> You can find these in the fruit section.

Font and Graphic problems after installing Acrobat 9.0

[Mike Feimster]

Clint,

For the font problem check out
http://www.timawa.com/font-problems-after-installing-windows-xp-sp3/

You might need to actually uninstall the new version and install the new
version using the control panel.

Mike

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Owen, Clint
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 12:39 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Font and Graphic problems after installing Acrobat 9.0

We use FM 7.0 p578 on Win XP, SP 3.

My coworker recently had Acrobat 9 Standard installed on her computer,
then the hard drive was cloned into a new box and the operating system
was reinstalled. So we don't really know what caused the problem.

For some FM documents, which she has worked on many times before, she
has two different problems, which we don't know to be related, but
started at the same time:

1. When she opens the file FM gives a message that it can't find the
font Arial Black, even though we can see it in the Windows font
directory and it shows up in the FM font list as well. She allows the
substitute and moves on.

2. If she tries to save the file with the same or a different name
she gets this message "An internal error occurred while writing imported
graphics in this document. The file has been saved, but has lost some
image data. Please report this error to Adobe Technical Support." What
gets saved is a file like "***.814".

I can open the same document on my machine, which has the same versions
of FM and Windows, but Acrobat 7 Pro. She has Adobe Type Manager
installed, which I don't.

The IT guy is busy reinstalling FM 7.0, which is all we could think of
to try.

Are there any ideas or suggestions out there?

Thanks,

Clint

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Font and Graphic problems after installing Acrobat 9.0

[syed.hos...@aeris.net]

I would start by removing Adobe Type Manager from her system. It is an
old, essentially unsupported Adobe product and was not *really* intended
to be used after Windows NT or Windows 2000 (I forget which). ATM may be
interacting improperly with the built-in font support inside Windows XP.

Frankly, the font control and support inside the newer operating systems
are better than what you can get with ATM, since that has not been
touched in ages by Adobe.

Z

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Owen, Clint
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:39 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Font and Graphic problems after installing Acrobat 9.0

We use FM 7.0 p578 on Win XP, SP 3.

My coworker recently had Acrobat 9 Standard installed on her computer,
then the hard drive was cloned into a new box and the operating system
was reinstalled. So we don't really know what caused the problem.

For some FM documents, which she has worked on many times before, she
has two different problems, which we don't know to be related, but
started at the same time:

1. When she opens the file FM gives a message that it can't find the
font Arial Black, even though we can see it in the Windows font
directory and it shows up in the FM font list as well. She allows the
substitute and moves on.

2. If she tries to save the file with the same or a different name
she gets this message "An internal error occurred while writing imported
graphics in this document. The file has been saved, but has lost some
image data. Please report this error to Adobe Technical Support." What
gets saved is a file like "***.814".

I can open the same document on my machine, which has the same versions
of FM and Windows, but Acrobat 7 Pro. She has Adobe Type Manager
installed, which I don't.

The IT guy is busy reinstalling FM 7.0, which is all we could think of
to try.

Are there any ideas or suggestions out there?

Thanks,

Clint

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Font and Graphic problems after installing Acrobat 9.0

[Owen, Clint]

Lea,

Thank you for the clue that solved the problem!

I had started to reply that we never OLE objects or Visio files, and that we 
all had SP 3 previously installed, etc. But then I decided to actually check. 
The documents in question are not our normal Component Maintenance Manuals or 
Service Bulletins. They are quick start guides for a new product, and happen to 
be loaded with Visio OLEs! It also turns out that her computer was only up to 
SP2 until she was moved to a new box, at which time SP3 was installed. I was 
able to open and save the problem files because my machine is also at SP2.

Thanks also to Mike Feimster for pointing out a known problem with the version 
of Arial Black that comes with SP3.

This is a great list!

Clint


Clinton Owen | Senior Technical Writer | Crane Aerospace & Electronics | 
Telephone: +1 425-743-8674 | Fax: +1 425-743-8113


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From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Lea Rush
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 10:44 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Font and Graphic problems after installing Acrobat 9.0

Hi Clint,

Here's what a quick Google found. I'm not berating you for not looking; I'm 
just building my troubleshooting skills for my own use. (Of course, I'll keep 
relying on this list for its vast learning opportunities).

OLE images, especially on SP3:

http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/2008-June/012880.html

For a long and very informative discussion on the error, especially as regards 
SP3 (including our own Art Campbell), look here:

http://www.adobeforums.com/webx?14@@.59b54413/0

Might also be network-related:

http://objectmix.com/adobe-framemaker/783047-internal-error-when-saving-fram
e-file.html

Good luck!
Lea




_
Lea Rush
Software and Documentation Specialist
Astoria-Pacific International
PO Box 830 Clackamas OR 97015
PH: 800-657-3010
FAX:? 503-655-7367 


-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Owen, Clint
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:39 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Font and Graphic problems after installing Acrobat 9.0

We use FM 7.0 p578 on Win XP, SP 3.

My coworker recently had Acrobat 9 Standard installed on her computer, then the 
hard drive was cloned into a new box and the operating system was reinstalled. 
So we don't really know what caused the problem.

For some FM documents, which she has worked on many times before, she has two 
different problems, which we don't know to be related, but started at the same 
time:

1. When she opens the file FM gives a message that it can't find the font 
Arial Black, even though we can see it in the Windows font directory and it 
shows up in the FM font list as well. She allows the substitute and moves on.

2. If she tries to save the file with the same or a different name she gets 
this message "An internal error occurred while writing imported graphics in 
this document. The file has been saved, but has lost some image data. Please 
report this error to Adobe Technical Support." What gets saved is a file like 
"***.814".

I can open the same document on my machine, which has the same versions of FM 
and Windows, but Acrobat 7 Pro. She has Adobe Type Manager installed, which I 
don't.

The IT guy is busy reinstalling FM 7.0, which is all we could think of to try.

Are there any ideas or suggestions out there?

Thanks,

Clint

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Telephone: +1 425-743-8674 | Fax: +1 425-743-8113





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FrameMaker 9 Bug: Find in Book Displays Incorrect Page

[Mike Wickham]

Does anyone else see this in FrameMaker 9? If I choose Find in Book, 
FrameMaker searches and finds items, but rather than displaying the page 
that contains the item, it displays the first page of the chapter that 
contains the item. The found item may be many pages away, and is not always 
highlighted. I sometimes see the highlighted item flash on screen for a 
moment before the page jumps back to the first page of the chapter.

Mike Wickham

Omega symbol becomes W in pdf

[Stuti Arora]

Which version of Frame are you using? If you are using FM 8 or above, you could 
follow Andrew's advice and use Unicode characters with a Unicode Symbol font, 
which would be the ideal solution. But if you are on FM7.2 or earlier, you 
would need to ensure that Symbol font is available to the distiller (is in its 
path/ is embeddable), as others mentioned.

Thanks,
Stuti
FrameMaker Developer

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From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Warren
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 4:59 AM
To: 'Nancy Allison'; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Omega symbol becomes W in pdf

Nancy Allison wrote:

> My document uses some special symbols, like the Omega.
>
> To create it, I type W and then apply a Symbol character tag, which
> applies the Symbol font.

Nancy:

Don't ever do that.  If you really need an omega, get it within a non-Symbol 
font by following the advice near the end of the following rant, which is a 
slightly-edited copy of something I posted a couple years ago to the techwr-l 
list...

Using the Symbol font to produce an omega is bad, but not likely to kill anyone.

With omega/W:

  If you're viewing the document in a web browser that's been
  configured to use your favorite fonts rather than the fonts
  specified by the document, the omega symbols become Ws.

  Google ignores font information in its text searches, so when
  it indexes a page, it sees (and displays in search results) a
  "W" wherever there's a Symbol-font "omega".

  If your browser isn't configured to use your own fonts, the
  omegas will probably look fine there... But as soon as you
  cut-and-paste from the browser window to another application,
  like Frame or Word, the omegas become Ws.

  If you send the document through an email system that strips
  HTML, the omegas become Ws.

  If you send it to a printer that doesn't have the Symbol font,
  the omegas become Ws.

  If you view it on a computer that doesn't have the Symbol font,
  the omegas become Ws.

In most of these cases, the font information is permanently lost once the 
document's omega symbols become Ws.  They never switch back, even if the 
document is subsequently viewed in a system which CAN display HTML or the 
Symbol font.

The W-instead-of-omega problem isn't limited to web pages; I see it ALL THE 
TIME in published datasheets, application notes, user's manuals, trade journal 
articles, etc.

Fortunately, the error is easy to spot, since the erroneous "W" usually makes 
no sense, and the intended meaning can generally be deduced from the context.

However...

If you use the Symbol font to make ANOTHER Greek letter, the "mu", you really 
MIGHT kill someone:

The Greek letter "mu" is often used in engineering and scientific writing to 
represent the prefix "micro-" (one millionth).  In the old days, before we all 
had access to fancy computer typefaces, typewritten documents would use the 
lowercase "u" instead of "mu", since the two letters look very similar.

"Lowercase 'u' means 'mu' means 'micro-'" was a universally-understood 
convention (among engineers and scientists, anyway): usec = microseconds, uF = 
microfarads, uA = microamps... Even uP = microprocessor.  No one was ever 
confused by this, and all was well until some pedantic dumbass noticed that he 
could make the unit names in his documents "correct" by using the Symbol-font 
"mu" instead of the lowercase "u" that we'd all been happy with for decades.

The result, of course, is the same as for "omega", with one small but fatal 
difference:

"Omega" maps to the "W" character, which almost always looks like an error 
(e.g., "4.7kW, 1/8-watt resistor") but "mu" maps to the "m" character, which is 
the symbol for the prefix "milli-" (one thousandth).

Since "m-for-milli" can be reasonably used almost anywhere that "mu-for-micro" 
can, it NEVER looks like an error!

You thought NASA's metric-vs-English mistakes were boneheaded?  In those cases, 
numbers were off by a factor of 4.45, but when the mu-to-m error occurs, 
everything gets multiplied by 1000!  Microseconds become milliseconds, 
microamps become milliamps, micrometers become millimeters... And there's NO 
WAY TO TELL that the error happened unless there's a LOT of context that 
happens to look self-contradictory.

Since it's so hard to identify the mu-to-m error, it's difficult to know how 
prevalent it is, but I'd guess that it happens at least as frequently as the 
omega-to-W error that I see everywhere.

There are actually a few places where a mu-to-m error would be obvious, and I 
often see it there... Like, for instance, in the US Navy's NRaD Writing and 
Editorial Guidelines:

http://www.spawar.navy.mil/sti/publications/pubs/td/1064/td1064appb.html

It contains a list of abbreviations that includes both micro- and milli- units. 
 It's obvious that a mu-to-m error has occurred, since the list shows "m" for 
both sets of units.

I no 

Exporting to TypePad

[Ceri Richard]

TypePad (http://www.typepad.com/) is the hosted version of the Moveable Type
(http://www.movabletype.org/) CMS.

Ted, Art is right in saying that converting to html with mif2go is an option
but I guess it depends on how much formatting has been done in Frame and how
much of that formatting you want to keep. I think you'll also need to switch
off the default html editor in the TyePad dashboard (or the admin area where
you write posts - sorry, it's been a long while since I've used TypePad!)

I'm not clear from your question whether you want to convert the whole book
and output it to a multitude of posts or whether you want to "cherry pick"
isolated paragraphs as posts. If it's the latter, it could be simpler to
copy chunks of text as you need them into a text editor (e.g. Notepad on
Windows or one of the many excellent free editors out there) and format the
html as you go.

More information please!

ceri

On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Art Campbell wrote:

> Ted,
>
> You should be able to simply copy-and-paste anything from a Frame file
> directly into any other program. I'm not familiar with TypePad, but if
> it's a Windows program it should take stuff from the Clipboard.
>
> If you're asking about converting the entire book to text... first, I
> wouldn't bother if it was me, but if you want to do that, I believe
> that MIF2Go (free trail from omsys.com) will output to text. However,
> MIF2Go also ouputs to HTML, which may be a better choice for importing
> into a blog.
>
> Art
>
> Art Campbell
>   art.campbell at gmail.com
>  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
> Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
>  No disclaimers apply.
>   DoD 358
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Ted Steinberg 
> wrote:
> > 1st. I would like to export unstructured Frame 7.1 paragraphs directly
> > into whatever TypePad uses for creating blog posts; paste in is OK.
> > TypePad's support FAQ'a contain nothing on Framemaker.  I have about
> > 4500 journal entries (paragraphs) into a 1,400 page Frame Book w/an
> > APL, TOC, and 50 chapters, of marketing concept notes taken over 20+
> > years; a few of my previous clients have asked me to put the best ones
> > into one or more blogs - for their sales & marketing staffs. The idea
> > of having to retype them and redo them is a bit much; I even called
> > Methuselah, he's older than I, but not by much, but he was too busy
> > with his own memoirs, given all those wives, to offer any advice other
> > than to not take steroids or Viagra or any performance enhancing
> > substances; but he did recommend that any advice from a Framer, though
> > addictive, was OK. So if anyone has some advise on how to do get from
> > Frame to a TypePad Blog with a minimum of pain I would be most
> > welcome.
> >
> > 2nd. I lost the WebWorks program that came with Frame, and it is not
> > installed. I mention this because, the thought is gnawing at my
> > clouded brain, that maybe it was good for something like this. If it
> > would be handy to have, any idea how I can get the program for the
> > price of a thank you? Like shipping it in a returning Banana Boat?
> >
> > Regards from a retired Californian living in Costa Rica, having
> > improved the IQ's of both areas, although my Costa Rican relatives may
> > take exception to this remark.
> >
> > TED
> >
> >
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Table Format

[luca finocchiaro]

A simple question, I put a Format A table in my document, I change the
column width and save as xml, but when I reopen the document the width not
change, can I drop the table width attribute in r/w rules to customize my
tables? Or how can I fix this problem?thank you.
macweaz

Ref: FM 9 bugs - I have noticed.

[Karen Mann]

1. FrameMaker searches and finds items, but rather than displaying the
page that contains the item, it displays the first page of the chapter
that contains the item. The found item may be many pages away, and is
not always highlighted. I sometimes see the highlighted item flash on
screen for a moment before the page jumps back to the first page of the
chapter.

2. Building blocks now missing after 9.0.1 update. 

3. Have had bullets change size and all conform to one size instead of
the 2 different assigned tags. Have to save Book after making changes to
part of the book.

4. Crash on printing from other print driver than the PDF.

5. Now cannot undo if graphic inserted and I don't want it, I have to
close without saving and then reopen to start all over. 





Karen Mann 
kmann at i-t-tech.com   
Interactive Training Technologies 
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