RE: Framers Digest, Vol 42, Issue 13

[Lebbink, Belinda (RB-NL)]

Hello,

What is this, a real private message (I can't read it till the website
is online ;-) or spam?!

Greetz, Belinda

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Re: FM9 Buggy UI Behavior (Joseph)

[John Hedtke]

Dear Joseph, et al:

Yes, I have been observing the dancing menus problem for a month or 
two.  I hadn't noticed the other problems, but they could well 
be.  I've got ATCS 2.0 loaded (and am writing a review of it).  I'd 
tried to describe this problem to RJ Jacques, but he said he hadn't 
run into this before and didn't know what it was just from the 
description, so I was unable to get additional information (as of 
around the beginning of March).  I was trying to shoot a Captivate 
movie to show this, but got sidetracked by work.  Sounds like I'm not 
the only one, though.  whew!  My system is a pretty vanilla box: 
ASUS motherboard with an onboard Nvidia GeForce FX 5200, with a 
ViewSonic 21 LCD monitor.  I'm running at 1400 x 1050 x 32-bit 
color.  The dancing menus are easy to see and trigger: loading a new 
FM file does it for me.

Don't know if it's something other people have shown the folks at 
Adobe yet, but at least there's more than one of us.

Yours truly,

John Hedtke
Author/Consultant/Contract Writer
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At 12:00 AM 4/14/2009, you wrote:
I have started testing FM 9 p230.  Over all, I like the new UI design.
However, I have noticed one issue right off the bat.  When I
rearrange/minimize windows, drag tabs and pods around, or change work
spaces, the UI starts behaving oddly for a couple seconds in the following
ways.

-Menus will start shaking and shifting around
-UI elements bleed into one another
-the selection for user defined work spaces disappears from the work space
menu

Has anyone else experienced problems like this??

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RE: private message from David F

[John Sgammato]

I got one of those too. 
I wrote to framers-ow...@lists.frameusers.com and got no reply.
So I ignored the message. 
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Hello,

What is this, a real private message (I can't read it till the website
is online ;-) or spam?!

Greetz, Belinda

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Re: FM9 Buggy UI Behavior

[Shlomo Perets]

Joseph,

You wrote:

I have started testing FM 9 p230.  Over all, I like the new UI design.
However, I have noticed one issue right off the bat.  When I
rearrange/minimize windows, drag tabs and pods around, or change work
spaces, the UI starts behaving oddly for a couple seconds in the following
ways.

-Menus will start shaking and shifting around
-UI elements bleed into one another
-the selection for user defined work spaces disappears from the work space
menu

Has anyone else experienced problems like this??


Yes. Whenever I switch between workspaces, toolbars flicker for 2-3 seconds 
(less noticeable flickering occurs in other cases).

I see this in both standalone FM9 and FM9-TCS2, on two different computers.


Shlomo Perets

MicroType, http://www.microtype.com
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Template Design, Single Sourcing, FM-to-PDF  Acrobat courses

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OT: Re: private message from David F

[Jing Torralba]

It's a spam. Delete it, and if your email system has capability to filter out 
the spam, add the spammer to this filter. 

Jing 



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I got one of those too. 
I wrote to framers-ow...@lists.frameusers.com and got no reply. 
So I ignored the message. 
john 

 

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Hello, 

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Conditional table rows

[Lynn Durell]

Hi Framers,

I can search for text marked with a conditional text tag no problem, but 
this doesn't find table rows that are marked with that condition. Can 
someone direct me in how to search for these rows?

Thanks very much,
Lynn
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RE: Weird autonumbering problem with Framemaker

[Combs, Richard]

qui...@airmail.net wrote: 
 
 I would note, that while the series letter is very important, and will
 regularize the numbering stream, it seems likely that Eva is using a
 single stream in order to restart the numbering sequence at the start
of
 each section/chapter without using a separate start style. If that is
 indeed the case, she should still use a single series identifier, but
 use it in all instances of numbering. snip

Sorry, but that's just not true. From FM6 onward, you can restart pgf
numbering by selecting Restart Paragraph Numbering in Numbering
Properties. There's no reason to put all your number sequences into a
single, complex stream, where you have to keep straight which pgf
formats restart which counters.  

Eva mentioned only table and figure numbering, yet her table autonumber
format has 7 or 8 placeholders (the examples given aren't consistent).
That's rather complex. And her table numbering is starting over here and
there within the chapter, so as you pointed out earlier, one of the
other pgf formats in that autonumber stream is resetting numbering (Eva,
look for pgfs in which the last counter of the autonumber format is 
=0).

In fact, that table autonumber format (Table $chapnum.$volnum-n
   -n+) is an odd combination of the old (pre-FM6)
and new way of doing numbering, and I suspect that at some point someone
tried to graft the new building blocks into the old scheme instead of
rethinking the whole thing. 

Eva seems to think that Table 5.1-5-1 is what the first table should be.
I think it's a bit odd to use the $chapnum building block for sections
and $volnum for their subsections, and it would never enter my mind to
include the subsection number in table or figure numbering, but maybe
that's just me. 

But what is the third digit (produced by the n counter in the above
autonumber format) identifying? And what pgf tag increments it? In all
the examples Eva provided, it has the same value as $chapnum -- is it
incremented by the chapter/section title, and could it be just a remnant
of the scheme before $chapnum was available?

And what about all those placeholders -- surely, there aren't 7 levels
of numbered lists! What else is in this numbering stream?

Personally, I think a two-part table/figure number is sufficient. My
autonumber formats for table and figure captions are in separate series
(T and F) and look like this: 

T:Table\ $chapnum\+n+\t
F:Figure\ $chapnum\+n+\t

The \  is a non-breaking space, \+ is a non-breaking hyphen, and
\t is a tab. Nothing resets the counters (pgf numbering is set to
restart for each chapter, chapter numbering increments). 

I only use two levels of numbered lists. My autonumber formats for
ListNum and ListAlpha pgfs use the N numbering series and look like
this: 

N:n+ =0\t
N: a+\t 

My heading and body pgf formats have the following autonumber format so
that they restart the list numbering: 

N: =0 =0

Indented body pgfs and anything else that I want to permit within a
numbererd list don't have an autonumber. 

There are a few other autonumbers (e.g., numbered lists in table text),
but they're similarly simple -- no more than two counters. 

Simplify, simplify! (IMHO, YMMV, etc.)

Richard
 

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Thank You _RE: URGENT_Images and DPI

[Susan Curtzwiler]

Hi all,
   I followed the advice to turn off down sampling and compression.  I also ran 
some test samples of DPIs for the different sizes of the screen captures (based 
on inches)  and now have better images. 
 
Thanks again for all your help ! 
 
Sue 



From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.co...@polycom.com]
Sent: Thu 4/9/2009 7:14 PM
To: Susan Curtzwiler; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: URGENT_Images and DPI 



Susan Curtzwiler wrote:

 I need some really quick help with how to best use the DPI settings to
 import screen captures by reference.

 I have some wide screen captures that will not fit into the anchored
 frame and retain clarity.

 If I use the 96 DPI, I can get the area being emphasized, but not
 enough surrounding area to have landmarks for the user.

 The larger screen captures, about 4x6, are even more difficult.  If I
 use the 150 DPI, it goes in the anchored frame, but again the text
 quality is not very good.

What format are they saved in? If it's JPEG, that's part of your
problem. JPEG is optimal for photos, but a poor choice for screen shots,
and often results in blurry text. Switch to PNG.

If these screen captures are from a Windows machine, 96 dpi should be
approximately life-size and 150 dpi should be easily readable. I
routinely used 180 dpi for screen shots of an application window about
900 x 500 pixels, making them about 5 wide in the doc. When you say
4x6, are you talking inches? You should be able to insert those into an
8.5 x 11 page life-size or nearly so, and if they're decent quality,
they should be as sharp and clear as the original window from which
they're captured.

You refer to _the_ anchored frame as if it was a given. Can't you use a
larger frame? If necessary, you can rotate the screen shot so its width
can be nearly the height of your text frame (although you shouldn't need
to unless I'm misunderstanding the sizes you're working with or these
screens use really tiny type).

BTW, to maintain the quality of a bitmap graphic, resist the urge to
make it larger or smaller with the mouse. Resize it only by changing the
dpi (best) or setting a round-number scaling percentage (both in the
Object Properties dialog).

HTH!
Richard

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Re: Weird autonumbering problem with Framemaker

[quills]

Richard,

I agree with simplifying, however, that may not be possible in a 
corporate environement with numerous documents that use the same 
template. Without a lot of effort.

The reasoning behind using a reset of the stream by a previous paragraph 
number is to automate the numbering without human intervention, which 
clicking on the reset pgf numbering button requires. It is older 
technology, however, it works and ensures that the renumbering occurs 
even if you  use the content in a different context.

But all of this is conjecture when looking at the problem at hand. Your 
suggestion is right on the money on looking for a numbering sequence 
that might be resetting the series.

Scott
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FM9: Moving from unstructured to structured view

[Gabrielle Burns]

Where in the FM9 UI do I go to change from unstructured to structured
view? I have been unable to find any information in the Help or User
Guide. In previous versions, the command was on the File menu. When I
installed FM9 from the media, I selected unstructured. Do I need to
use the installation media to add a structured component? Thank you.

Gabrielle Burns
Lead Information Products Developer
BRO Software Applications
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Re: FM9: Moving from unstructured to structured view

[Writer]

File  Preferences  General, and then select Structured Framemaker from the 
Product Interface drop-down list.

Nadine


--- On Tue, 4/14/09, Gabrielle Burns gbu...@breault.com wrote:

 From: Gabrielle Burns gbu...@breault.com
 Subject: FM9: Moving from unstructured to structured view
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Received: Tuesday, April 14, 2009, 4:42 PM
 Where in the FM9 UI do I go to change from unstructured to
 structured
 view? I have been unable to find any information in the
 Help or User
 Guide. In previous versions, the command was on the File
 menu. When I
 installed FM9 from the media, I selected
 unstructured. Do I need to
 use the installation media to add a structured component?
 Thank you.
 
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 Lead Information Products Developer
 BRO Software Applications
 Breault Research Organization, Inc.
 gbu...@breault.com
 
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RE: FM9: Moving from unstructured to structured view

[Fred Ridder]

After setting the Preferences item, you also have to close and re-open 
FrameMaker for the change to take effect.

-Fred Ridder

 
 Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 13:55:01 -0700
 From: generic...@yahoo.ca
 Subject: Re: FM9: Moving from unstructured to structured view
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com; gbu...@breault.com
 
 
 File  Preferences  General, and then select Structured Framemaker from the 
 Product Interface drop-down list.
 
 Nadine
 
 
 --- On Tue, 4/14/09, Gabrielle Burns gbu...@breault.com wrote:
 
  From: Gabrielle Burns gbu...@breault.com
  Subject: FM9: Moving from unstructured to structured view
  To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
  Received: Tuesday, April 14, 2009, 4:42 PM
  Where in the FM9 UI do I go to change from unstructured to
  structured
  view? I have been unable to find any information in the
  Help or User
  Guide. In previous versions, the command was on the File
  menu. When I
  installed FM9 from the media, I selected
  unstructured. Do I need to
  use the installation media to add a structured component?
  Thank you.
  
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FM9 Buggy UI Behavior (Joseph)

[John Hedtke]

Dear Joseph, et al:

Yes, I have been observing the dancing menus problem for a month or 
two.  I hadn't noticed the other problems, but they could well 
be.  I've got ATCS 2.0 loaded (and am writing a review of it).  I'd 
tried to describe this problem to RJ Jacques, but he said he hadn't 
run into this before and didn't know what it was just from the 
description, so I was unable to get additional information (as of 
around the beginning of March).  I was trying to shoot a Captivate 
movie to show this, but got sidetracked by work.  Sounds like I'm not 
the only one, though.    My system is a pretty vanilla box: 
ASUS motherboard with an onboard Nvidia GeForce FX 5200, with a 
ViewSonic 21" LCD monitor.  I'm running at 1400 x 1050 x 32-bit 
color.  The dancing menus are easy to see and trigger: loading a new 
FM file does it for me.

Don't know if it's something other people have shown the folks at 
Adobe yet, but at least there's more than one of us.

Yours truly,

John Hedtke
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At 12:00 AM 4/14/2009, you wrote:
>I have started testing FM 9 p230.  Over all, I like the new UI design.
>However, I have noticed one issue right off the bat.  When I
>rearrange/minimize windows, drag tabs and pods around, or change work
>spaces, the UI starts behaving oddly for a couple seconds in the following
>ways.
>
>-Menus will start shaking and shifting around
>-UI elements bleed into one another
>-the selection for user defined work spaces disappears from the work space
>menu
>
>Has anyone else experienced problems like this??
>
>--
>Sincerely,
>
>Joseph Lorenzini

private message from David F

[John Sgammato]

I got one of those too. 
I wrote to framers-owner at lists.frameusers.com and got no reply.
So I ignored the message. 
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FM9 Buggy UI Behavior

[Shlomo Perets]

Joseph,

You wrote:

>I have started testing FM 9 p230.  Over all, I like the new UI design.
>However, I have noticed one issue right off the bat.  When I
>rearrange/minimize windows, drag tabs and pods around, or change work
>spaces, the UI starts behaving oddly for a couple seconds in the following
>ways.
>
>-Menus will start shaking and shifting around
>-UI elements bleed into one another
>-the selection for user defined work spaces disappears from the work space
>menu
>
>Has anyone else experienced problems like this??


Yes. Whenever I switch between workspaces, toolbars flicker for 2-3 seconds 
(less noticeable flickering occurs in other cases).

I see this in both standalone FM9 and FM9-TCS2, on two different computers.


Shlomo Perets

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OT: Re: private message from David F

[Jing Torralba]

It's a spam. Delete it, and if your email system has capability to filter out 
the spam, add the spammer to this filter. 

Jing 



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I got one of those too. 
I wrote to framers-owner at lists.frameusers.com and got no reply. 
So I ignored the message. 
john 

 

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Conditional table rows

[Lynn Durell]

Hi Framers,

I can search for text marked with a conditional text tag no problem, but 
this doesn't find table rows that are marked with that condition. Can 
someone direct me in how to search for these rows?

Thanks very much,
Lynn

FM9 Buggy UI Behavior (Joseph)

[Joseph]

Hi John and Shlomo,

Its good to know its not all in my head! :) Unfortunately, I am bummed out
because this probably means its a bug with FrameMaker 9. This GUI issue is
NOT intermittent for me. It happens every single time I maximize a window,
change a workspace, or hover over buttons. I can easily replicate it or
record it with a captivate video.

However, I was told by adobe technical support that their policy is that
they do NOT assist someone with a trial version of TCS 2.0, only someone
with a purchased copy. I understand the need for such a policy but it seems
self-defeating since I would probably purchase the software if I knew this
issue is fixable or would be addressed in the future.

Right now it seems like Adobe is completely oblivious to it.

Sincerely,
Joe

Weird autonumbering problem with Framemaker

[Combs, Richard]

quills at airmail.net wrote: 

> I would note, that while the series letter is very important, and will
> regularize the numbering stream, it seems likely that Eva is using a
> single stream in order to restart the numbering sequence at the start
of
> each section/chapter without using a separate start style. If that is
> indeed the case, she should still use a single series identifier, but
> use it in all instances of numbering. 

Sorry, but that's just not true. From FM6 onward, you can restart pgf
numbering by selecting Restart Paragraph Numbering in Numbering
Properties. There's no reason to put all your number sequences into a
single, complex stream, where you have to keep straight which pgf
formats restart which counters.  

Eva mentioned only table and figure numbering, yet her table autonumber
format has 7 or 8 placeholders (the examples given aren't consistent).
That's rather complex. And her table numbering is starting over here and
there within the chapter, so as you pointed out earlier, one of the
other pgf formats in that autonumber stream is resetting numbering (Eva,
look for pgfs in which the last counter of the autonumber format is "<
=0>").

In fact, that table autonumber format (Table <$chapnum>.<$volnum>-<
>< >< >< >< ><  >< >-) is an odd combination of the old (pre-FM6)
and new way of doing numbering, and I suspect that at some point someone
tried to graft the new building blocks into the old scheme instead of
rethinking the whole thing. 

Eva seems to think that Table 5.1-5-1 is what the first table should be.
I think it's a bit odd to use the <$chapnum> building block for sections
and <$volnum> for their subsections, and it would never enter my mind to
include the subsection number in table or figure numbering, but maybe
that's just me. 

But what is the third digit (produced by the "" counter in the above
autonumber format) identifying? And what pgf tag increments it? In all
the examples Eva provided, it has the same value as <$chapnum> -- is it
incremented by the chapter/section title, and could it be just a remnant
of the scheme before <$chapnum> was available?

And what about all those placeholders -- surely, there aren't 7 levels
of numbered lists! What else is in this numbering stream?

Personally, I think a two-part table/figure number is sufficient. My
autonumber formats for table and figure captions are in separate series
(T and F) and look like this: 

T:Table\ <$chapnum>\+\t
F:Figure\ <$chapnum>\+\t

The "\ " is a non-breaking space, "\+" is a non-breaking hyphen, and
"\t" is a tab. Nothing resets the counters (pgf numbering is set to
restart for each chapter, chapter numbering increments). 

I only use two levels of numbered lists. My autonumber formats for
ListNum and ListAlpha pgfs use the N numbering series and look like
this: 

N:< =0>\t
N:< >\t 

My heading and body pgf formats have the following autonumber format so
that they restart the list numbering: 

N:< =0>< =0>

Indented body pgfs and anything else that I want to permit within a
numbererd list don't have an autonumber. 

There are a few other autonumbers (e.g., numbered lists in table text),
but they're similarly simple -- no more than two counters. 

Simplify, simplify! (IMHO, YMMV, etc.)

Richard


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Thank You _RE: URGENT_Images and DPI

[Susan Curtzwiler]

Hi all,
   I followed the advice to turn off down sampling and compression.  I also ran 
some test samples of DPIs for the different sizes of the screen captures (based 
on inches)  and now have better images. 

Thanks again for all your help ! 

Sue 



From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.co...@polycom.com]
Sent: Thu 4/9/2009 7:14 PM
To: Susan Curtzwiler; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: URGENT_Images and DPI 



Susan Curtzwiler wrote:

> I need some really quick help with how to best use the DPI settings to
> import screen captures by reference.
>
> I have some wide screen captures that will not fit into the anchored
> frame and retain clarity.
>
> If I use the 96 DPI, I can get the area being emphasized, but not
> enough surrounding area to have landmarks for the user.
>
> The larger screen captures, about 4x6, are even more difficult.  If I
> use the 150 DPI, it goes in the anchored frame, but again the text
> quality is not very good.

What format are they saved in? If it's JPEG, that's part of your
problem. JPEG is optimal for photos, but a poor choice for screen shots,
and often results in blurry text. Switch to PNG.

If these screen captures are from a Windows machine, 96 dpi should be
approximately "life-size" and 150 dpi should be easily readable. I
routinely used 180 dpi for screen shots of an application window about
900 x 500 pixels, making them about 5" wide in the doc. When you say
4x6, are you talking inches? You should be able to insert those into an
8.5 x 11 page life-size or nearly so, and if they're decent quality,
they should be as sharp and clear as the original window from which
they're captured.

You refer to _the_ anchored frame as if it was a given. Can't you use a
larger frame? If necessary, you can rotate the screen shot so its width
can be nearly the height of your text frame (although you shouldn't need
to unless I'm misunderstanding the sizes you're working with or these
screens use really tiny type).

BTW, to maintain the quality of a bitmap graphic, resist the urge to
make it larger or smaller with the mouse. Resize it only by changing the
dpi (best) or setting a round-number scaling percentage (both in the
Object Properties dialog).

HTH!
Richard

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Weird autonumbering problem with Framemaker

[qui...@airmail.net]

Richard,

I agree with simplifying, however, that may not be possible in a 
corporate environement with numerous documents that use the same 
template. Without a lot of effort.

The reasoning behind using a reset of the stream by a previous paragraph 
number is to automate the numbering without human intervention, which 
clicking on the reset pgf numbering button requires. It is older 
technology, however, it works and ensures that the renumbering occurs 
even if you  use the content in a different context.

But all of this is conjecture when looking at the problem at hand. Your 
suggestion is right on the money on looking for a numbering sequence 
that might be resetting the series.

Scott

FM9: Moving from unstructured to structured view

[Gabrielle Burns]

Where in the FM9 UI do I go to change from unstructured to structured
view? I have been unable to find any information in the Help or User
Guide. In previous versions, the command was on the File menu. When I
installed FM9 from the media, I selected "unstructured". Do I need to
use the installation media to add a structured component? Thank you.

Gabrielle Burns
Lead Information Products Developer
BRO Software Applications
Breault Research Organization, Inc.
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FM9: Moving from unstructured to structured view

[Writer]

File > Preferences > General, and then select Structured Framemaker from the 
Product Interface drop-down list.

Nadine


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FM9: Moving from unstructured to structured view

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After setting the Preferences item, you also have to close and re-open 
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