Benchmarking: Save as PDF in FM9 vs. FM8

[Yves Barbion]

Hi group

I've done the following test in FM9 and 8: save 74-page book as PDF. These
are the results:

FM9:
Acrobat Distiller starts after: 1 min. 40 s
PDF displayed in Acrobat after: 2 min. 59 s

FM8:
Acrobat Distiller starts after: 18 (!) s
PDF displayed in Acrobat after: 1 min. 23 s

I've tested this a couple of times and I got similar results.

Does anyone have any idea why FM9 is so much slower?



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Re: Benchmarking: Save as PDF in FM9 vs. FM8

[Art Campbell]

Because you're using SaveAs, which in FM 9 has it's own processes and
job option switches.

If you run each by printing to the Acrobat logical printer and select
the same job options, I suspect the numbers will be comparable.

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On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 9:00 AM, Yves Barbion yves.barb...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi group

 I've done the following test in FM9 and 8: save 74-page book as PDF. These
 are the results:

 FM9:
 Acrobat Distiller starts after: 1 min. 40 s
 PDF displayed in Acrobat after: 2 min. 59 s

 FM8:
 Acrobat Distiller starts after: 18 (!) s
 PDF displayed in Acrobat after: 1 min. 23 s

 I've tested this a couple of times and I got similar results.

 Does anyone have any idea why FM9 is so much slower?



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Re: FM9 crashes non stop on Vista 64 bits [RESOLVED]

[Peter Gold]

Thanks for the pointer, Mathieu.

Just reading all the maintenance in the technote is exhausting.
Performing all the steps could become one's new career.

Aside from Adobe building 64-bit Windows Vista compatibility into
FrameMaker 9, developing and offering a couple of utilities that
report some of the system information that needs to be collected. For
example, checking the OS version and patch level, RAM, disk free
space, listing files in %temp%, currently-running applications, VRAM,
video-card driver, etc, and reporting the information with comments
where appropriate, such as These resources don't meet requirements:
(list them).

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On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 8:10 AM, mathieu jacquet bobi...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 if ever you're experiencing similar problems, here is what the support 
 replied:

 Unfortunately, FrameMaker 9 is not certified to be supported on the 64-bit 
 edition of Windows Vista. However, please find attached a technical note from 
 our database. It will allow you to fix your problem. Please read 
 http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/406/kb406893.html;.

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FM9 bug: Hyperlinks in *IOR.fm don't work

[Yves Barbion]

Hi

I'm using FM9 on Windows XP, SP3

I have generated an index of references (imported graphics), but when I
click on one of the hyperlinked entries, FM9 is unable to show me the
graphic on the respective page. I do see that the tab of the respective file
(chapter) becomes active, but the page itself is not brought to front. To
see the page, I have to minimize the IOR window.

I get the same behavior in the various workspaces.

Is this a known UI bug?

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RE: FM9 crashes non stop on Vista 64 bits [RESOLVED]

[Combs, Richard]

Peter Gold wrote: 
 
 Just reading all the maintenance in the technote is exhausting.
 Performing all the steps could become one's new career.

I think it's a pretty good troubleshooting guide, with much of it applicable to 
troubleshooting any software problem, not specific to FM. And as with any 
troubleshooting/diagnostic procedure, you continue only until you've identified 
the problem. So hopefully, you never have to perform _all_ the steps. :-)
 
 Aside from Adobe building 64-bit Windows Vista compatibility into
 FrameMaker 9, developing and offering a couple of utilities that
 report some of the system information that needs to be collected. For
 example, checking the OS version and patch level, RAM, disk free
 space, listing files in %temp%, currently-running applications, VRAM,
 video-card driver, etc, and reporting the information with comments
 where appropriate, such as These resources don't meet requirements:
 (list them).

Virtually everything on that list is available in the System Information 
utility that you can access from the About box of an MS Office application. 
Alternatively, you can use one of the bazillion freeware/shareware sys 
info/diagnostic utilities available. There's no need for Adobe to add yet 
another to the pile. 

This is standard information about your system that a support tech would 
probably ask you for and that you should know or know how to find. 

Richard G. Combs
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FrameMaker 7.2 Compatiblity with Acrobat 9

[Fei Min Lorente]

Sorry for the re-question, but I simply can't find the old thread.
 
I remember someone recently asking about producing PDFs using Acrobat 9,
but they were still using FrameMaker 7.2. I think the answer was that
Acrobat 9 doesn't support FrameMaker 7.2, but that FM 7.2 might be able
to produce PDFs anyway, just not through Save As. Can someone please
refresh my memory?
 
I'm currently using FM 7.2 on Windows XP and Acrobat 6.0 Pro. I'm
thinking we have to upgrade Acrobat to 9 Pro because I have to do online
reviews that way. We are using FinalDraft, but now that the company has
forced us to use IE8, the reviewers are experiencing problems with
FinalDraft. Looks like it's time to move on.
 
Incidentally, if anyone has any other suggestions for doing online
reviews of FrameMaker documents that doesn't involve every reviewer
having a copy of FrameMaker, please let me know. We're okay buying the
software to produce an online-reviewable document, but don't want to
have to pay for the software for the reviewers.
 
Most of them are structured documents, so I could export to XML, if
that's any help.
 
Fei Min

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RE: FrameMaker 7.2 Compatiblity with Acrobat 9

[Jeff Coatsworth]

For pulling shared PDF reviews back into the FM source docs, check out RJ 
Jacquez's blog posting of his demo.

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fei Min Lorente
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 10:32 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: FrameMaker 7.2 Compatiblity with Acrobat 9

Sorry for the re-question, but I simply can't find the old thread.
 
I remember someone recently asking about producing PDFs using Acrobat 9, but 
they were still using FrameMaker 7.2. I think the answer was that Acrobat 9 
doesn't support FrameMaker 7.2, but that FM 7.2 might be able to produce PDFs 
anyway, just not through Save As. Can someone please refresh my memory?
 
I'm currently using FM 7.2 on Windows XP and Acrobat 6.0 Pro. I'm thinking we 
have to upgrade Acrobat to 9 Pro because I have to do online reviews that way. 
We are using FinalDraft, but now that the company has forced us to use IE8, the 
reviewers are experiencing problems with FinalDraft. Looks like it's time to 
move on.
 
Incidentally, if anyone has any other suggestions for doing online reviews of 
FrameMaker documents that doesn't involve every reviewer having a copy of 
FrameMaker, please let me know. We're okay buying the software to produce an 
online-reviewable document, but don't want to have to pay for the software for 
the reviewers.
 
Most of them are structured documents, so I could export to XML, if that's any 
help.
 
Fei Min

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RE: FrameMaker 7.2 Compatiblity with Acrobat 9

[Pinkham, Jim]

FWIW, Jeff, we've been using 7.1 with Acrobat 9 for months with no
issues.

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Subject: RE: FrameMaker 7.2 Compatiblity with Acrobat 9

For pulling shared PDF reviews back into the FM source docs, check out
RJ Jacquez's blog posting of his demo.

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fei Min
Lorente
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 10:32 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: FrameMaker 7.2 Compatiblity with Acrobat 9

Sorry for the re-question, but I simply can't find the old thread.
 
I remember someone recently asking about producing PDFs using Acrobat 9,
but they were still using FrameMaker 7.2. I think the answer was that
Acrobat 9 doesn't support FrameMaker 7.2, but that FM 7.2 might be able
to produce PDFs anyway, just not through Save As. Can someone please
refresh my memory?
 
I'm currently using FM 7.2 on Windows XP and Acrobat 6.0 Pro. I'm
thinking we have to upgrade Acrobat to 9 Pro because I have to do online
reviews that way. We are using FinalDraft, but now that the company has
forced us to use IE8, the reviewers are experiencing problems with
FinalDraft. Looks like it's time to move on.
 
Incidentally, if anyone has any other suggestions for doing online
reviews of FrameMaker documents that doesn't involve every reviewer
having a copy of FrameMaker, please let me know. We're okay buying the
software to produce an online-reviewable document, but don't want to
have to pay for the software for the reviewers.
 
Most of them are structured documents, so I could export to XML, if
that's any help.
 
Fei Min

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Re: Converting Rows to Headers

[Art Campbell]

You're missing Rick Quatro's TableCleaner plug in, a great tool that
does this conversion as well as a host of other table-related stuff.
It's a critical piece of my tool kit...

http://www.frameexpert.com/plugins/tablecleaner/index.htm

If you have a herd of these to do, Rick could probably whip up a
FrameScript that would do this at the book or directory level...

Art

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On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Howard Rauch
techtrans...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 Frame 7.0 (my clients have not caught up to FM9 yet)
 Windows XP Pro

 I have a number of multipage tables for which I need to convert the first two 
 table body rows (conventional) to header rows. So far the only method I've 
 found that works is to set up a new blank table having two header rows and 
 then copy the original table into the new one. It seems to me that with its 
 power, FM could easily convert body rows into header rows. Am I missing 
 something? I've checked Help and found it to be of no help in this regard.

 Howard Rauch

 Technology Transfer, Inc.
 Linking Creators and Users of Technology
 933 North 18th Street
 Manitowoc WI 54220
 Office: 920-682-1528
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Re: Converting Rows to Headers

[Stuart Rogers]

On 11/02/2010 11:58 AM, Howard Rauch wrote:
 Frame 7.0 (my clients have not caught up to FM9 yet) Windows XP Pro

 I have a number of multipage tables for which I need to convert the
 first two table body rows (conventional) to header rows. So far the
 only method I've found that works is to set up a new blank table
 having two header rows and then copy the original table into the new
 one. It seems to me that with its power, FM could easily convert body
 rows into header rows. Am I missing something? I've checked Help and
 found it to be of no help in this regard.


Table  Add Rows or Columns

Add 2 rows To Heading

Cut your first two body rows (Remove Cells from Table) and Paste them 
into the Heading rows (Replace Current Rows).  You may have to apply pgf 
tags to the Heading cells after this operation.

HTH,

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RE: Converting Rows to Headers

[Diane Gaskill]

There is a much faster and easier way to do what you are doing.  Use the
tablecleaner plugin from Rick Quatro.  Works like a champ, believe me.
We're converting some legacy docs from mewierd to structured FM.  I cleaned
up 100 tables in a 400 page manual, (including changing body rows to heading
rows in about 30 seconds.  Cleans up all the text problems too.  However, it
doesn't take the text string that word uses for table headings and move it
into the table title field in an FM table.  (Hey, Rick, are you listening?
:-)
Not sure of the price now, but I think I paid $60.  ROI: 30 seconds.  I
cannot imagine how long it would have taken me to do all that manually.

Diane Gaskill
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Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 8:58 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Converting Rows to Headers


Frame 7.0 (my clients have not caught up to FM9 yet)
Windows XP Pro

I have a number of multipage tables for which I need to convert the first
two table body rows (conventional) to header rows. So far the only method
I've found that works is to set up a new blank table having two header
rows and then copy the original table into the new one. It seems to me that
with its power, FM could easily convert body rows into header rows. Am I
missing something? I've checked Help and found it to be of no help in this
regard.

Howard Rauch
 
Technology Transfer, Inc.
Linking Creators and Users of Technology
933 North 18th Street
Manitowoc WI 54220
Office: 920-682-1528
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920-629-0080
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below building block in X-Refs

[Jon Harvey]

(FM 9.0, XP Pro)

 

Everyone,

 

I'm trying to figure out a way to create an X-Ref format that says See
'Dogs' {or whatever} below if the X-Ref and the target 'Dogs' are both
on the same page. I'd like FM to recognize that they are on the same
page so that, if 'Dogs' moves to the next page, the X-Ref automatically
adjusts to read See 'Dogs' on page xx.  Is there any way to do this
without creating two X-Ref style and manually changing from one to the
other?

 

 

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RE: Converting Rows to Headers

[Combs, Richard]

Howard Rauch wrote:
 
 I have a number of multipage tables for which I need to convert the first
 two table body rows (conventional) to header rows. So far the only method
 I've found that works is to set up a new blank table having two header
 rows and then copy the original table into the new one. It seems to me that
 with its power, FM could easily convert body rows into header rows. Am I
 missing something? I've checked Help and found it to be of no help in this
 regard.

Just to reinforce the message you've been getting, I'll add another 
enthusiastic endorsement of Rick Quatro's TableCleaner. My ROI period was 
longer than Diane's -- maybe as much as half an hour. But even without a big 
Word-to-FM conversion project (for which it's indispensable), the argument for 
TableCleaner is compelling. 

FWIW, I disagree with Nadine. I generally like FM's table functionality (better 
than Word's), and _not_ splitting rows across pages is one of the things I 
really like. :-)


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Re: below building block in X-Refs

[Peter Gold]

As Rick said, not in stock FrameMaker, nor in stock InDesign CS4 the
first release with built-in cross-references. There is a commercial
InDesign cross-references plug-in from dtptools.com that offers this
page, opposite page, next page, and some other options.

I'm not suggesting that you drop FrameMaker for InDesign for this one
feature. But, I thought Rick might get some ideas from the plug-in's
info page that could develop into a FrameMaker plug-in.

HTH

Regards,

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On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Jon Harvey jhar...@cambridgesoft.com wrote:
 (FM 9.0, XP Pro)



 Everyone,



 I'm trying to figure out a way to create an X-Ref format that says See
 'Dogs' {or whatever} below if the X-Ref and the target 'Dogs' are both
 on the same page. I'd like FM to recognize that they are on the same
 page so that, if 'Dogs' moves to the next page, the X-Ref automatically
 adjusts to read See 'Dogs' on page xx.  Is there any way to do this
 without creating two X-Ref style and manually changing from one to the
 other?





 Jon Harvey

 Manager, Desktop  Enterprise Documentation

 CambridgeSoft Corporation

 100 CambridgePark Drive

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 (617) 588-9354



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RE: below building block in X-Refs

[Fred Ridder]

Jon Harvey wrote:

 I'm trying to figure out a way to create an X-Ref format that says See
 'Dogs' {or whatever} below if the X-Ref and the target 'Dogs' are both
 on the same page. I'd like FM to recognize that they are on the same
 page so that, if 'Dogs' moves to the next page, the X-Ref automatically
 adjusts to read See 'Dogs' on page xx. Is there any way to do this
 without creating two X-Ref style and manually changing from one to the
 other?


Do you really feel that this adds significant value to your docs? At each of 
the last four companies I've worked for, the trend was to reduce or eliminate 
this kind of geographic cue. But maybe that would have been different if 
numbered headings, captions, and table titles hadn't been the house style in 
each case...

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Utilities for FM 8

[Joe Malin]

Hi!

After a 3-year hiatus I am trying to work with FM 8 (unstructured) again for
a non-work project. Having designed a lot of my own templates and documents,
I know a *lot* about what's built in to FM 8, but I've forgotten all the
utilities I once used such as Character Tools, Paragraph Tools, etc.

I'm looking for tools that will automatically copy formats, layouts, master
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Re: FM 9 books

[Ray Saffin]

In TCS2 there is a User Guide PDF (UserGuide.pdf) for FrameMaker 9 that gets
installed in:

C:\Program Files\Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2\Adobe FrameMaker
9\Documents

This may be a good starting point.


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 Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:41:33 -0700
 From: Linda G. Gallagher lin...@techcomplus.com
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 Framers,

 Does anyone know of any FM 9 books, aside from the Classroom in a Book?
 It's
 the only thing I've found that is just FM 9. (I know about Icon Logic's TCS
 2 book, but that does not fit my need.)

 Has anyone used the Classroom in a Book for FM 9? I just requested a review
 copy, but I'm not sure when I'll receive it. I'd like to know what you've
 thought of it for teaching FM 9.

 Thanks!

 ~
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Table Issues

[George, Brenda (CAI)]

I am importing an XML file into Structured FrameMaker that contains a table. 
The table is being imported into a 2-column text box. The table needs to 
stretch across both columns within the text box. When I import the table it is 
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across both columns, but does not stretch beyond the text box?

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Re: Utilities for FM 8

[Art Campbell]

You can use CleanImport, a plug-in to purge the target doc's catalogs
and then to import the new settings from your source.

If you don't care about cleaning out the existing entries, just use
File  Import Formats in your target. This is additive, so any
existing tags / variables / settings will remain in place. If the
source file has the same tag / variable names, the new settings will
be imported.

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On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:54 PM, Joe Malin jma...@jmalin.com wrote:
 Hi!

 After a 3-year hiatus I am trying to work with FM 8 (unstructured) again for
 a non-work project. Having designed a lot of my own templates and documents,
 I know a *lot* about what's built in to FM 8, but I've forgotten all the
 utilities I once used such as Character Tools, Paragraph Tools, etc.

 I'm looking for tools that will automatically copy formats, layouts, master
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 there a site somewhere that has a list of sources?

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Re: Utilities for FM 8

[Scott Prentice]

My ToolSearch database lists all of the FM plugins that I'm aware of 
(plus other things) ..

http://leximation.com/toolsearch/

Cheers,

...scott

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Joe Malin wrote:
 Hi!

 After a 3-year hiatus I am trying to work with FM 8 (unstructured) again for
 a non-work project. Having designed a lot of my own templates and documents,
 I know a *lot* about what's built in to FM 8, but I've forgotten all the
 utilities I once used such as Character Tools, Paragraph Tools, etc.

 I'm looking for tools that will automatically copy formats, layouts, master
 pages, reference pages, etc. from an existing document to a new one. Is
 there a site somewhere that has a list of sources?

 Joe Malin

   
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Re: Utilities for FM 8

[Steve Rickaby]

At 19:54 -0800 10/2/10, Joe Malin wrote:

After a 3-year hiatus I am trying to work with FM 8 (unstructured) again for
a non-work project. Having designed a lot of my own templates and documents,
I know a *lot* about what's built in to FM 8, but I've forgotten all the
utilities I once used such as Character Tools, Paragraph Tools, etc.

In addition to the advice of others, the site you're specifically looking for 
is probably http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com.

-- 
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FM 9 books

[Helen Borrie]

At 01:07 PM 11/02/2010, Syed.Hosain at aeris.net wrote:
>I like the Scriptorium book a lot too.
>
>My only regret is that [Scriptorium] decided not to publish the "Structured
>FrameMaker" version of it ... I hope that this happens sometime. I would
>gladly buy it!

Me too.  But I don't underestimate the work involved in designing the content 
for such a book.  I'm sure one of the problems would be that one would have to 
write two books in one.  On the one hand is the *present* mainstream (DocBook 
and other monolithic architectures), which are easier for unstructured diehards 
to grokk, but which can't provide a single content source solution.  On the 
other are the "coming things" that we (as writers and content developers) can't 
ignore:  DITA and maybe other granular architectures we haven't seen in public 
yet. 

I reckon it would need at least two authors and someone to keep bread on their 
table while they were doing it.  That, of course, means establishing that there 
would be a sufficiently worthwhile ROI associated with such a project.  

Helen

Benchmarking: Save as PDF in FM9 vs. FM8

[Yves Barbion]

Hi group

I've done the following test in FM9 and 8: save 74-page book as PDF. These
are the results:

FM9:
Acrobat Distiller starts after: 1 min. 40 s
PDF displayed in Acrobat after: 2 min. 59 s

FM8:
Acrobat Distiller starts after: 18 (!) s
PDF displayed in Acrobat after: 1 min. 23 s

I've tested this a couple of times and I got similar results.

Does anyone have any idea why FM9 is so much slower?



Yves Barbion
www.scripto.nu

Benchmarking: Save as PDF in FM9 vs. FM8

[Art Campbell]

Because you're using SaveAs, which in FM 9 has it's own processes and
job option switches.

If you run each by printing to the Acrobat logical printer and select
the same job options, I suspect the numbers will be comparable.

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On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 9:00 AM, Yves Barbion  wrote:
> Hi group
>
> I've done the following test in FM9 and 8: save 74-page book as PDF. These
> are the results:
>
> FM9:
> Acrobat Distiller starts after: 1 min. 40 s
> PDF displayed in Acrobat after: 2 min. 59 s
>
> FM8:
> Acrobat Distiller starts after: 18 (!) s
> PDF displayed in Acrobat after: 1 min. 23 s
>
> I've tested this a couple of times and I got similar results.
>
> Does anyone have any idea why FM9 is so much slower?
>
>
>
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FM9 crashes non stop on Vista 64 bits [RESOLVED]

[mathieu jacquet]

Hi all,

if ever you're experiencing similar problems, here is what the support replied: 

"Unfortunately, FrameMaker 9 is not certified to be supported on the 64-bit 
edition of Windows Vista. However, please find attached a technical note from 
our database. It will allow you to fix your problem. Please read 
http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/406/kb406893.html;.

Cheers,

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FM9 crashes non stop on Vista 64 bits [RESOLVED]

[Peter Gold]

Thanks for the pointer, Mathieu.

Just reading all the maintenance in the technote is exhausting.
Performing all the steps could become one's new career.

Aside from Adobe building 64-bit Windows Vista compatibility into
FrameMaker 9, developing and offering a couple of utilities that
report some of the system information that needs to be collected. For
example, checking the OS version and patch level, RAM, disk free
space, listing files in %temp%, currently-running applications, VRAM,
video-card driver, etc, and reporting the information with comments
where appropriate, such as "These resources don't meet requirements:
(list them)."

Regards,

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On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 8:10 AM, mathieu jacquet  wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> if ever you're experiencing similar problems, here is what the support 
> replied:
>
> "Unfortunately, FrameMaker 9 is not certified to be supported on the 64-bit 
> edition of Windows Vista. However, please find attached a technical note from 
> our database. It will allow you to fix your problem. Please read 
> http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/406/kb406893.html;.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mathieu.
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FM9 bug: Hyperlinks in *IOR.fm don't work

[Yves Barbion]

Hi

I'm using FM9 on Windows XP, SP3

I have generated an index of references (imported graphics), but when I
click on one of the hyperlinked entries, FM9 is unable to show me the
graphic on the respective page. I do see that the tab of the respective file
(chapter) becomes active, but the page itself is not "brought to front". To
see the page, I have to minimize the IOR window.

I get the same behavior in the various workspaces.

Is this a known UI bug?

Cheers


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www.scripto.nu

FM9 crashes non stop on Vista 64 bits [RESOLVED]

[Combs, Richard]

Peter Gold wrote: 

> Just reading all the maintenance in the technote is exhausting.
> Performing all the steps could become one's new career.

I think it's a pretty good troubleshooting guide, with much of it applicable to 
troubleshooting any software problem, not specific to FM. And as with any 
troubleshooting/diagnostic procedure, you continue only until you've identified 
the problem. So hopefully, you never have to perform _all_ the steps. :-)

> Aside from Adobe building 64-bit Windows Vista compatibility into
> FrameMaker 9, developing and offering a couple of utilities that
> report some of the system information that needs to be collected. For
> example, checking the OS version and patch level, RAM, disk free
> space, listing files in %temp%, currently-running applications, VRAM,
> video-card driver, etc, and reporting the information with comments
> where appropriate, such as "These resources don't meet requirements:
> (list them)."

Virtually everything on that list is available in the System Information 
utility that you can access from the About box of an MS Office application. 
Alternatively, you can use one of the bazillion freeware/shareware sys 
info/diagnostic utilities available. There's no need for Adobe to add yet 
another to the pile. 

This is standard information about your system that a support tech would 
probably ask you for and that you should know or know how to find. 

Richard G. Combs
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FrameMaker 7.2 Compatiblity with Acrobat 9

[Fei Min Lorente]

Sorry for the re-question, but I simply can't find the old thread.

I remember someone recently asking about producing PDFs using Acrobat 9,
but they were still using FrameMaker 7.2. I think the answer was that
Acrobat 9 doesn't support FrameMaker 7.2, but that FM 7.2 might be able
to produce PDFs anyway, just not through Save As. Can someone please
refresh my memory?

I'm currently using FM 7.2 on Windows XP and Acrobat 6.0 Pro. I'm
thinking we have to upgrade Acrobat to 9 Pro because I have to do online
reviews that way. We are using FinalDraft, but now that the company has
forced us to use IE8, the reviewers are experiencing problems with
FinalDraft. Looks like it's time to move on.

Incidentally, if anyone has any other suggestions for doing online
reviews of FrameMaker documents that doesn't involve every reviewer
having a copy of FrameMaker, please let me know. We're okay buying the
software to produce an online-reviewable document, but don't want to
have to pay for the software for the reviewers.

Most of them are structured documents, so I could export to XML, if
that's any help.

Fei Min

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FrameMaker 7.2 Compatiblity with Acrobat 9

[Jeff Coatsworth]

For pulling shared PDF reviews back into the FM source docs, check out RJ 
Jacquez's blog posting of his demo.

-Original Message-
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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fei Min Lorente
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 10:32 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: FrameMaker 7.2 Compatiblity with Acrobat 9

Sorry for the re-question, but I simply can't find the old thread.

I remember someone recently asking about producing PDFs using Acrobat 9, but 
they were still using FrameMaker 7.2. I think the answer was that Acrobat 9 
doesn't support FrameMaker 7.2, but that FM 7.2 might be able to produce PDFs 
anyway, just not through Save As. Can someone please refresh my memory?

I'm currently using FM 7.2 on Windows XP and Acrobat 6.0 Pro. I'm thinking we 
have to upgrade Acrobat to 9 Pro because I have to do online reviews that way. 
We are using FinalDraft, but now that the company has forced us to use IE8, the 
reviewers are experiencing problems with FinalDraft. Looks like it's time to 
move on.

Incidentally, if anyone has any other suggestions for doing online reviews of 
FrameMaker documents that doesn't involve every reviewer having a copy of 
FrameMaker, please let me know. We're okay buying the software to produce an 
online-reviewable document, but don't want to have to pay for the software for 
the reviewers.

Most of them are structured documents, so I could export to XML, if that's any 
help.

Fei Min

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FrameMaker 7.2 Compatiblity with Acrobat 9

[Pinkham, Jim]

FWIW, Jeff, we've been using 7.1 with Acrobat 9 for months with no
issues.

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To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
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For pulling shared PDF reviews back into the FM source docs, check out
RJ Jacquez's blog posting of his demo.

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Lorente
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 10:32 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: FrameMaker 7.2 Compatiblity with Acrobat 9

Sorry for the re-question, but I simply can't find the old thread.

I remember someone recently asking about producing PDFs using Acrobat 9,
but they were still using FrameMaker 7.2. I think the answer was that
Acrobat 9 doesn't support FrameMaker 7.2, but that FM 7.2 might be able
to produce PDFs anyway, just not through Save As. Can someone please
refresh my memory?

I'm currently using FM 7.2 on Windows XP and Acrobat 6.0 Pro. I'm
thinking we have to upgrade Acrobat to 9 Pro because I have to do online
reviews that way. We are using FinalDraft, but now that the company has
forced us to use IE8, the reviewers are experiencing problems with
FinalDraft. Looks like it's time to move on.

Incidentally, if anyone has any other suggestions for doing online
reviews of FrameMaker documents that doesn't involve every reviewer
having a copy of FrameMaker, please let me know. We're okay buying the
software to produce an online-reviewable document, but don't want to
have to pay for the software for the reviewers.

Most of them are structured documents, so I could export to XML, if
that's any help.

Fei Min

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Medical Division
ON Semiconductor
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Converting Rows to Headers

[Howard Rauch]

Frame 7.0 (my clients have not?caught up to FM9 yet)
Windows XP Pro

I have a number of multipage tables?for which I need to convert the first two 
table body rows (conventional) to header rows. So far the only method I've 
found that works is to set up a new blank table?having two header rows?and then 
copy the original table into the new?one. It seems to me that with?its power, 
FM could easily convert?body rows into header rows. Am I missing something? 
I've checked Help and found it to be of no help in this regard.

Howard Rauch
?
Technology Transfer, Inc.
"Linking Creators and Users of Technology"
933 North 18th Street
Manitowoc WI 54220
Office: 920-682-1528
Cell: 920-629-1782
920-629-0080

Converting Rows to Headers

[Art Campbell]

You're missing Rick Quatro's TableCleaner plug in, a great tool that
does this conversion as well as a host of other table-related stuff.
It's a critical piece of my tool kit...

http://www.frameexpert.com/plugins/tablecleaner/index.htm

If you have a herd of these to do, Rick could probably whip up a
FrameScript that would do this at the book or directory level...

Art

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On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Howard Rauch
 wrote:
> Frame 7.0 (my clients have not?caught up to FM9 yet)
> Windows XP Pro
>
> I have a number of multipage tables?for which I need to convert the first two 
> table body rows (conventional) to header rows. So far the only method I've 
> found that works is to set up a new blank table?having two header rows?and 
> then copy the original table into the new?one. It seems to me that with?its 
> power, FM could easily convert?body rows into header rows. Am I missing 
> something? I've checked Help and found it to be of no help in this regard.
>
> Howard Rauch
>
> Technology Transfer, Inc.
> "Linking Creators and Users of Technology"
> 933 North 18th Street
> Manitowoc WI 54220
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Converting Rows to Headers

[Stuart Rogers]

On 11/02/2010 11:58 AM, Howard Rauch wrote:
> Frame 7.0 (my clients have not caught up to FM9 yet) Windows XP Pro
>
> I have a number of multipage tables for which I need to convert the
> first two table body rows (conventional) to header rows. So far the
> only method I've found that works is to set up a new blank table
> having two header rows and then copy the original table into the new
> one. It seems to me that with its power, FM could easily convert body
> rows into header rows. Am I missing something? I've checked Help and
> found it to be of no help in this regard.
>

Table > Add Rows or Columns

Add 2 rows To Heading

Cut your first two body rows (Remove Cells from Table) and Paste them 
into the Heading rows (Replace Current Rows).  You may have to apply pgf 
tags to the Heading cells after this operation.

HTH,

-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

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Converting Rows to Headers

[Diane Gaskill]

There is a much faster and easier way to do what you are doing.  Use the
tablecleaner plugin from Rick Quatro.  Works like a champ, believe me.
We're converting some legacy docs from mewierd to structured FM.  I cleaned
up 100 tables in a 400 page manual, (including changing body rows to heading
rows in about 30 seconds.  Cleans up all the text problems too.  However, it
doesn't take the text string that word uses for table headings and move it
into the table title field in an FM table.  (Hey, Rick, are you listening?
:-)
Not sure of the price now, but I think I paid $60.  ROI: 30 seconds.  I
cannot imagine how long it would have taken me to do all that manually.

Diane Gaskill
Hitachi Data systems


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Frame 7.0 (my clients have not?caught up to FM9 yet)
Windows XP Pro

I have a number of multipage tables?for which I need to convert the first
two table body rows (conventional) to header rows. So far the only method
I've found that works is to set up a new blank table?having two header
rows?and then copy the original table into the new?one. It seems to me that
with?its power, FM could easily convert?body rows into header rows. Am I
missing something? I've checked Help and found it to be of no help in this
regard.

Howard Rauch
?
Technology Transfer, Inc.
"Linking Creators and Users of Technology"
933 North 18th Street
Manitowoc WI 54220
Office: 920-682-1528
Cell: 920-629-1782
920-629-0080
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Converting Rows to Headers

[Writer]

I have found that tables have never been FM's strong point. What I find 
especially annoying is the inability to split rows across pages. 

Nadine

> It seems to
> me that with?its power, FM could easily convert?body rows
> into header rows. Am I missing something? I've checked Help
> and found it to be of no help in this regard.

"below" building block in X-Refs

[Jon Harvey]

(FM 9.0, XP Pro)



Everyone,



I'm trying to figure out a way to create an X-Ref format that says "See
'Dogs' {or whatever} below" if the X-Ref and the target 'Dogs' are both
on the same page. I'd like FM to recognize that they are on the same
page so that, if 'Dogs' moves to the next page, the X-Ref automatically
adjusts to read "See 'Dogs' on page xx".  Is there any way to do this
without creating two X-Ref style and manually changing from one to the
other?





Jon Harvey

Manager, Desktop & Enterprise Documentation

CambridgeSoft Corporation

100 CambridgePark Drive

Cambridge, MA 02140

(617) 588-9354

"below" building block in X-Refs

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Jon,

There is no way to do this with stock FrameMaker, but this could be done
with a FrameScript script. If you are interested in a FrameScript solution,
please contact me offlist. Thanks.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-659-8267
rick at frameexpert.com

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Subject: "below" building block in X-Refs

(FM 9.0, XP Pro)



Everyone,



I'm trying to figure out a way to create an X-Ref format that says "See
'Dogs' {or whatever} below" if the X-Ref and the target 'Dogs' are both
on the same page. I'd like FM to recognize that they are on the same
page so that, if 'Dogs' moves to the next page, the X-Ref automatically
adjusts to read "See 'Dogs' on page xx".  Is there any way to do this
without creating two X-Ref style and manually changing from one to the
other?





Jon Harvey

Manager, Desktop & Enterprise Documentation

CambridgeSoft Corporation

100 CambridgePark Drive

Cambridge, MA 02140

(617) 588-9354



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Converting Rows to Headers

[Combs, Richard]

Howard Rauch wrote:

> I have a number of multipage tables?for which I need to convert the first
> two table body rows (conventional) to header rows. So far the only method
> I've found that works is to set up a new blank table?having two header
> rows?and then copy the original table into the new?one. It seems to me that
> with?its power, FM could easily convert?body rows into header rows. Am I
> missing something? I've checked Help and found it to be of no help in this
> regard.

Just to reinforce the message you've been getting, I'll add another 
enthusiastic endorsement of Rick Quatro's TableCleaner. My ROI period was 
longer than Diane's -- maybe as much as half an hour. But even without a big 
Word-to-FM conversion project (for which it's indispensable), the argument for 
TableCleaner is compelling. 

FWIW, I disagree with Nadine. I generally like FM's table functionality (better 
than Word's), and _not_ splitting rows across pages is one of the things I 
really like. :-)


Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
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"below" building block in X-Refs

[Peter Gold]

As Rick said, not in stock FrameMaker, nor in stock InDesign CS4 the
first release with built-in cross-references. There is a commercial
InDesign cross-references plug-in from dtptools.com that offers "this
page," "opposite page," "next page," and some other options.

I'm not suggesting that you drop FrameMaker for InDesign for this one
feature. But, I thought Rick might get some ideas from the plug-in's
info page that could develop into a FrameMaker plug-in.

HTH

Regards,

Peter
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On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Jon Harvey  
wrote:
> (FM 9.0, XP Pro)
>
>
>
> Everyone,
>
>
>
> I'm trying to figure out a way to create an X-Ref format that says "See
> 'Dogs' {or whatever} below" if the X-Ref and the target 'Dogs' are both
> on the same page. I'd like FM to recognize that they are on the same
> page so that, if 'Dogs' moves to the next page, the X-Ref automatically
> adjusts to read "See 'Dogs' on page xx". ?Is there any way to do this
> without creating two X-Ref style and manually changing from one to the
> other?
>
>
>
>
>
> Jon Harvey
>
> Manager, Desktop & Enterprise Documentation
>
> CambridgeSoft Corporation
>
> 100 CambridgePark Drive
>
> Cambridge, MA 02140
>
> (617) 588-9354
>
>
>
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"below" building block in X-Refs

[Fred Ridder]

Jon Harvey wrote:

> I'm trying to figure out a way to create an X-Ref format that says "See
> 'Dogs' {or whatever} below" if the X-Ref and the target 'Dogs' are both
> on the same page. I'd like FM to recognize that they are on the same
> page so that, if 'Dogs' moves to the next page, the X-Ref automatically
> adjusts to read "See 'Dogs' on page xx". Is there any way to do this
> without creating two X-Ref style and manually changing from one to the
> other?


Do you really feel that this adds significant value to your docs? At each of 
the last four companies I've worked for, the trend was to reduce or eliminate 
this kind of "geographic" cue. But maybe that would have been different if 
numbered headings, captions, and table titles hadn't been the house style in 
each case...

-Fred Ridder

FM 9 books

[Ray Saffin]

In TCS2 there is a User Guide PDF (UserGuide.pdf) for FrameMaker 9 that gets
installed in:

C:\Program Files\Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2\Adobe FrameMaker
9\Documents

This may be a good starting point.


> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:41:33 -0700
> From: "Linda G. Gallagher" 
> Subject: FM 9 books
> To: 
> Message-ID: <001801ca$94af9e60$640a at LindaDellDec06>
> Content-Type: text/plain;   charset="us-ascii"
>
> Framers,
>
> Does anyone know of any FM 9 books, aside from the Classroom in a Book?
> It's
> the only thing I've found that is just FM 9. (I know about Icon Logic's TCS
> 2 book, but that does not fit my need.)
>
> Has anyone used the Classroom in a Book for FM 9? I just requested a review
> copy, but I'm not sure when I'll receive it. I'd like to know what you've
> thought of it for teaching FM 9.
>
> Thanks!
>
> ~
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Table Issues

[George, Brenda (CAI)]

I am importing an XML file into Structured FrameMaker that contains a table. 
The table is being imported into a 2-column text box. The table needs to 
stretch across both columns within the text box. When I import the table it is 
stretching beyond the text box. How do I format the table so that it imports 
across both columns, but does not stretch beyond the text box?

Brenda George
Desk: (724) 720-8491
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Utilities for FM 8

[Art Campbell]

You can use CleanImport, a plug-in to purge the target doc's catalogs
and then to import the new settings from your source.

If you don't care about cleaning out the existing entries, just use
File > Import Formats in your target. This is additive, so any
existing tags / variables / settings will remain in place. If the
source file has the same tag / variable names, the new settings will
be imported.

Art Campbell
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Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
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On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:54 PM, Joe Malin  wrote:
> Hi!
>
> After a 3-year hiatus I am trying to work with FM 8 (unstructured) again for
> a non-work project. Having designed a lot of my own templates and documents,
> I know a *lot* about what's built in to FM 8, but I've forgotten all the
> utilities I once used such as Character Tools, Paragraph Tools, etc.
>
> I'm looking for tools that will automatically copy formats, layouts, master
> pages, reference pages, etc. from an existing document to a new one. Is
> there a site somewhere that has a list of sources?
>
> Joe Malin
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Utilities for FM 8

[Scott Prentice]

My ToolSearch database lists all of the FM plugins that I'm aware of 
(plus other things) ..

http://leximation.com/toolsearch/

Cheers,

...scott

Scott Prentice
Leximation, Inc.
www.leximation.com
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Joe Malin wrote:
> Hi!
>
> After a 3-year hiatus I am trying to work with FM 8 (unstructured) again for
> a non-work project. Having designed a lot of my own templates and documents,
> I know a *lot* about what's built in to FM 8, but I've forgotten all the
> utilities I once used such as Character Tools, Paragraph Tools, etc.
>
> I'm looking for tools that will automatically copy formats, layouts, master
> pages, reference pages, etc. from an existing document to a new one. Is
> there a site somewhere that has a list of sources?
>
> Joe Malin
>
>