Re: FM9 and SDL Author Assistant: Has anyone used this?

2010-06-08 Thread Yves Barbion
Hi Alison

I asked the same question in March. Cathy Arthur was the only one who had
actually used it. This was her reply:


I implemented it in my group several months ago. I really like it and it
has definitely improved everyone's writing. We do not translate, but we
do write for a very technical audience that does not always have
excellent English skills.

The files that are used to specify rules will probably take awhile to
develop. I was able to obtain the files from the primary docs group in
the company (who do external docs) which was the bulk of the work.

Cathy Arthur


Cheers

-- 
Yves Barbion
www.scripto.nu
___


You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com.

Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com.

To unsubscribe send a blank email to
framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com
or visit 
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com

Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit
http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.


RE: ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

2010-06-08 Thread Tim J. Slager
I was saying that Word can function reliably with large documents on a regular 
basis, provided one uses styles and templates, as recommended. (Just expect 
some exasperation with numbered lists.)

The programming option makes it possible to do things that go beyond any other 
word processing program I have encountered. It was something I would not have 
been aware of if a tech-writer-turned-VBA-programmer had not demonstrated it. I 
thought others might not be aware of this, either. Minor but thoughtful 
programming that was added to the template led to enthusiastic acceptance of 
the template by virtually the entire international company because it was so 
easy to use--and reliable. For example, a single button click reformatted 
tables to the standard and a dialog box converted documents from an old format 
to the new international standard.

Sorry for running the two concepts together. Not saying Word is better than 
Frame, just different with some positive aspects. (I still despise Word's 
numbering.)

tims

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of qui...@airmail.net
Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 12:07 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

I rather find the apology that Word can be made to function reliably 
ONLY IF one reprograms it to be begging the question. It is usually 
thought that one buys software that functions without the user having to 
fix the program they just spent a few hundred dollars on.

Scott

On 6/3/10 12:35 PM, Tim J. Slager wrote:
 Frame is clunky; Word is quirky.

 I have to agree numbered lists are Word's Achilles heal, although I can 
 (usually) get them to work.

 I worked for 10 years at a company where we used Word to create professional 
 documentation with page counts reaching into the thousands with very 
 consistent template styles and rare file corruption. We had the advantage of 
 a developer who could make Word do almost anything and had custom tool bars 
 and automated documentation generation built into Word. The flexibility 
 allowed by VBA programming is a great strength of Word.

 That said, there is something comforting about the stolid reliability of 
 FM--once you get it figured out.

 tims


___


You are currently subscribed to framers as tsla...@isdcorporation.com.

Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com.

To unsubscribe send a blank email to
framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com
or visit 
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/tslager%40isdcorporation.com

Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit
http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
___


You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com.

Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com.

To unsubscribe send a blank email to
framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com
or visit 
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com

Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit
http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.


Re: ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

2010-06-08 Thread Shmuel Wolfson

For the numbering in Word, I use Sequential fields. They are very stable.

Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
052-763-7133


On 08-Jun-10 4:06 PM, Tim J. Slager wrote:

I was saying that Word can function reliably with large documents on a regular 
basis, provided one uses styles and templates, as recommended. (Just expect 
some exasperation with numbered lists.)

The programming option makes it possible to do things that go beyond any other 
word processing program I have encountered. It was something I would not have 
been aware of if a tech-writer-turned-VBA-programmer had not demonstrated it. I 
thought others might not be aware of this, either. Minor but thoughtful 
programming that was added to the template led to enthusiastic acceptance of 
the template by virtually the entire international company because it was so 
easy to use--and reliable. For example, a single button click reformatted 
tables to the standard and a dialog box converted documents from an old format 
to the new international standard.

Sorry for running the two concepts together. Not saying Word is better than 
Frame, just different with some positive aspects. (I still despise Word's 
numbering.)

tims

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of qui...@airmail.net
Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 12:07 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

I rather find the apology that Word can be made to function reliably
ONLY IF one reprograms it to be begging the question. It is usually
thought that one buys software that functions without the user having to
fix the program they just spent a few hundred dollars on.

Scott

On 6/3/10 12:35 PM, Tim J. Slager wrote:
   

Frame is clunky; Word is quirky.

I have to agree numbered lists are Word's Achilles heal, although I can 
(usually) get them to work.

I worked for 10 years at a company where we used Word to create professional 
documentation with page counts reaching into the thousands with very consistent 
template styles and rare file corruption. We had the advantage of a developer 
who could make Word do almost anything and had custom tool bars and automated 
documentation generation built into Word. The flexibility allowed by VBA 
programming is a great strength of Word.

That said, there is something comforting about the stolid reliability of 
FM--once you get it figured out.

tims


 

___


You are currently subscribed to framers as tsla...@isdcorporation.com.

Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com.

To unsubscribe send a blank email to
framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com
or visit 
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/tslager%40isdcorporation.com

Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit
http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
___


You are currently subscribed to framers as shmue...@gmail.com.

Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com.

To unsubscribe send a blank email to
framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com
or visit 
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shmuelw1%40gmail.com

Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit
http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.

   

___


You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com.

Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com.

To unsubscribe send a blank email to
framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com
or visit 
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com

Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit
http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.


RE: ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

2010-06-08 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Tim,

I agree that any publishing tool, no matter how good it is, can benefit from
automation. Whether you are using FrameMaker or Word, there are usually
tedious, repetitive, and error-prone tasks that can be automated. Since Word
comes with VBA, you can automate tasks in Word without buying additional
software. Adobe provides the free FDK (Frame Developers Kit) so that you can
write FrameMaker plugins. This requires a compiler and knowledge of C/C++.
You can also purchase FrameScript (http://www.framescript.com, $150), which
is a third-party scripting environment for FrameMaker. This gives you the
ability to script FrameMaker similar to how VBA works with Word and other
Office programs.

Of course, you either need programming knowledge, or the resources to
purchase scripts or plugins from solution providers. But even with minimal
automation, you can usually recoup your investment many times over. The key
is to not be limited by the publishing tool you are using, but to look at
what is possible through automation.

Disclaimer: I write FrameScript scripts for a living.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-659-8267
r...@frameexpert.com

*** Frame Automation blog at http://frameautomation.com


-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tim J. Slager
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 9:06 AM
To: qui...@airmail.net
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

I was saying that Word can function reliably with large documents on a
regular basis, provided one uses styles and templates, as recommended. (Just
expect some exasperation with numbered lists.)

The programming option makes it possible to do things that go beyond any
other word processing program I have encountered. It was something I would
not have been aware of if a tech-writer-turned-VBA-programmer had not
demonstrated it. I thought others might not be aware of this, either. Minor
but thoughtful programming that was added to the template led to
enthusiastic acceptance of the template by virtually the entire
international company because it was so easy to use--and reliable. For
example, a single button click reformatted tables to the standard and a
dialog box converted documents from an old format to the new international
standard.

Sorry for running the two concepts together. Not saying Word is better than
Frame, just different with some positive aspects. (I still despise Word's
numbering.)

tims

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
qui...@airmail.net
Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 12:07 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

I rather find the apology that Word can be made to function reliably 
ONLY IF one reprograms it to be begging the question. It is usually 
thought that one buys software that functions without the user having to 
fix the program they just spent a few hundred dollars on.

Scott

On 6/3/10 12:35 PM, Tim J. Slager wrote:
 Frame is clunky; Word is quirky.

 I have to agree numbered lists are Word's Achilles heal, although I can
(usually) get them to work.

 I worked for 10 years at a company where we used Word to create
professional documentation with page counts reaching into the thousands with
very consistent template styles and rare file corruption. We had the
advantage of a developer who could make Word do almost anything and had
custom tool bars and automated documentation generation built into Word. The
flexibility allowed by VBA programming is a great strength of Word.

 That said, there is something comforting about the stolid reliability of
FM--once you get it figured out.

 tims


___


You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com.

Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com.

To unsubscribe send a blank email to
framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com
or visit 
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com

Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit
http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.


RE: Acrobat 9 Frustrations...

2010-06-08 Thread Chris Despopoulos
Hi all, and thanks for the help so far...

Yes, I found that it's the need of a patch that has caused my Acrobat problems. 
 Yes, I was completely blind, and failed to see the link to the patches...  If 
it was a snake it would have bit me -- I can never find the mustard in the 
refrigerator, either.

I currently have FrameMaker, build 8.0p236.  When I try to patch, the installer 
says I must have 8b236.  Note the change from P to B...
You do not have the correct version of FM install (sic) on your system. This 
patch installer will work with only VERSION 8b236 build. Patch Installer will 
quit now. OK

Given the language in that message, I'm not convinced that the b is 
intentional.  Nonetheless, I have 8p236 installed, and I have no other patches 
installed.

Here's what the Adobe patch download page says:
This download updates the English, French, and German language versions
of Adobe® FrameMaker® 8p236 software (released in July 2007) to version
8p266. This patch will be available to customers who have the 8p236
build on their machine via Adobe Update Manager (AUM). 

What I have is 8.0p236, installed from an upgrade disk...  I bought an upgrade 
from 7.x to 8.  So I did not get my p236 via the AUM.  I installed it from a 
disk.  But now I can't install the patches.

Am I going crazy, or what?  Am I just so unused to installing software that I 
can't remember how to do it any more?  Or maybe there's something about Windows 
7 that's keeping me from doing this?  Has anybody else successfully installed 
an upgrade version of Maker 8 onto a new Windows 7 machine, and then applied 
the patches?

Thanks for hanging in there with me...   cud



  
___


You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com.

Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com.

To unsubscribe send a blank email to
framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com
or visit 
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com

Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit
http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.


Re: Acrobat 9 Frustrations...

2010-06-08 Thread Mike Wickham

Chris,

Grasping at straws here, but I seem to recall in FM8 that there was a patch 
issued that had a major flaw and so Adobe issued a replacement for it within 
a day or so, but kept the same patch number. Perhaps that is why you are 
seeing the 8b236 designation instead of 8p236. Maybe you have the flawed one 
installed and need to download the newer 236 version and reapply it (perhaps 
after uninstalling the existing patch?).


Mike Wickham


___


You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com.

Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com.

To unsubscribe send a blank email to
framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com
or visit 
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com

Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit
http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.


Re: Adobe Flash, PDF vulnerability

2010-06-08 Thread Mary Sheahan
Thanks everybody...I'll hope that this is the case.  And that it's not the dll 
itself causing the problem--with a publicist forgetting to mention the 
lower-volume product!

--- On Mon, 6/7/10, Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com wrote:


From: Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Adobe Flash, PDF vulnerability
To: Mary Sheahan mhs...@yahoo.com
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Date: Monday, June 7, 2010, 11:51 AM


As a follow up, Adobe says the vulnerability is in Flash Player and Reader.
No mention of FM.

Art

Art Campbell                                                                    
      art.campb...@gmail.com
 ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a 
redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
                                                     No disclaimers apply.
                                                              DoD 358



On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com wrote:

Do you download a lot of suspicious files or visit potentially contaminated web 
sites?

If so, you may want to RENAME .dll. But unless you think you're particularly at 
risk I wouldn't break things.

Art Campbell                                                                    
      art.campb...@gmail.com
 ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a 
redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
                                                     No disclaimers apply.
                                                              DoD 358






On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Mary Sheahan mhs...@yahoo.com wrote:

On Friday Adobe issued a security advisory for a critical vulnerability in 
Acrobat (URLs below for details).

The recommended pre-patch fix is to delete authplay.dll which ships with 
Acrobat Reader and Acrobat 9.x for Windows.  I have at one time or another had 
both installed so I did a search across my hard drive -- and learned that this 
file is also in my FrameMaker 9 program folder.

Does anyone know if I should delete it from there as well?  Or will it cause 
FM9 problems if it's not there?

Thanks,
Mary



http://www.adobe.com/support/security/advisories/apsa10-01.html

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/adobe-warns-of-flash-pdf-zero-day-attacks/6606?tag=nl.e539

Adobe warns of Flash, PDF zero-day attacks



___


You are currently subscribed to framers as art.campb...@gmail.com.

Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com.

To unsubscribe send a blank email to
framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com
or visit 
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com

Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit
http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.





  
___


You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com.

Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com.

To unsubscribe send a blank email to
framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com
or visit 
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com

Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit
http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.


RE: ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

2010-06-08 Thread David Creamer
 I was saying that Word can function reliably with large documents on a regular
 basis, provided one uses styles and templates, as recommended. (Just expect
 some exasperation with numbered lists.)

Another thing that will stabilize Word documents is to link to graphics
rather than embed or cut-and-paste. Unfortunately, Word does not make it as
easy to link/reference the graphic as other programs do.


David Creamer
IDEAS Training  Consultation
http://www.IDEAStraining.com
Adobe Certified Trainer for Photoshop, Illustrator, Acrobat, InDesign,
InCopy, FrameMaker, Dreamweaver, Premiere, GoLive, and PageMaker
Authorized Quark Training Provider
Enfocus PitStop, Markzware FlightCheck,  FileMaker Authorized Trainer


___


You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com.

Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com.

To unsubscribe send a blank email to
framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com
or visit 
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com

Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit
http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.


Page Numbering Format (# of ##) in an FM Book

2010-06-08 Thread Graham, Jasmine S
Hello Framers,

 

I need to setup page numbering formatted as Page # of ## in a book with 
several files. The Page Count variable (building block $lastpagenum), pulls 
the last page number of the current file, not the last page number in the book. 
So, it's correct in the last file of the book, but not the others.

 

Is there any way to set up a variable that will read the last page number in 
the book? Or, is there another way to accomplish this without setting it 
manually after I generate the final book? 

 

TIA!

 

Jasmine Graham

Technical Writer, Research and Development 

Wireline Services

Weatherford │ 481 Winscott Road │ Fort Worth │ TX │ 76126 

Main: +1.817.249.7200 │ Direct: +1.817.249.7032 │ Fax: +1.817.249.7885 │ 
Mobile: +1.817.235.3620 

jasmine.gra...@weatherford.com │ www.weatherford.com

===
CONFIDENTIAL  PRIVILEGED COMMUNICATION

The information contained in this message is privileged, confidential, and 
protected from disclosure.
This message is intended for the individual or entity addressed herein. 
If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or 
disclose this communication to others. 
Also please notify the sender by replying to this message, and then delete it 
from your system. 
The sender totally disclaims, and will not accept, any responsibility or 
liability for the unauthorized use, 
or the consequences of any unauthorized use, of this communication or message.
___


You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com.

Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com.

To unsubscribe send a blank email to
framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com
or visit 
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com

Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit
http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.


Re: Page Numbering Format (# of ##) in an FM Book

2010-06-08 Thread David Spreadbury
Jazz,
If memory serves me, Rick Quartro has a script that will do this.
 
If he doesn't, and you are delivering PDFs, you can do this in Acrobat.
I just tested it and it works with Acrobat 8.
 
In Acrobat, open you PDF and select Document  Add Header and Footer.
Then select Setup Page Number and Date format, select 1 of n.
Select Insert page number.
 
If you have to revert to this option, you might want to edit your Frame footer 
to accommodate the Acrobat page numbering. Otherwise it could get a little 
messy.

--- On Tue, 6/8/10, Graham, Jasmine S yassamin.gra...@weatherford.com wrote:


From: Graham, Jasmine S yassamin.gra...@weatherford.com
Subject: Page Numbering Format (# of ##) in an FM Book
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Date: Tuesday, June 8, 2010, 12:34 PM


Hello Framers,



I need to setup page numbering formatted as Page # of ## in a book with 
several files. The Page Count variable (building block $lastpagenum), pulls 
the last page number of the current file, not the last page number in the book. 
So, it's correct in the last file of the book, but not the others.



Is there any way to set up a variable that will read the last page number in 
the book? Or, is there another way to accomplish this without setting it 
manually after I generate the final book? 



TIA!



Jasmine Graham

Technical Writer, Research and Development 

Wireline Services

Weatherford │ 481 Winscott Road │ Fort Worth │ TX │ 76126 

Main: +1.817.249.7200 │ Direct: +1.817.249.7032 │ Fax: +1.817.249.7885 │ 
Mobile: +1.817.235.3620 

jasmine.gra...@weatherford.com │ www.weatherford.com

===
CONFIDENTIAL  PRIVILEGED COMMUNICATION

The information contained in this message is privileged, confidential, and 
protected from disclosure.
This message is intended for the individual or entity addressed herein. 
If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or 
disclose this communication to others. 
Also please notify the sender by replying to this message, and then delete it 
from your system. 
The sender totally disclaims, and will not accept, any responsibility or 
liability for the unauthorized use, 
or the consequences of any unauthorized use, of this communication or message.
___


You are currently subscribed to framers as dspre...@yahoo.com.

Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com.

To unsubscribe send a blank email to
framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com
or visit 
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dspreadb%40yahoo.com

Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit
http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
___


You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com.

Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com.

To unsubscribe send a blank email to
framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com
or visit 
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com

Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit
http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.


FM9 and SDL Author Assistant: Has anyone used this?

2010-06-08 Thread Yves Barbion
Hi Alison

I asked the same question in March. Cathy Arthur was the only one who had
actually used it. This was her reply:


"I implemented it in my group several months ago. I really like it and it
has definitely improved everyone's writing. We do not translate, but we
do write for a very technical audience that does not always have
excellent English skills.

The files that are used to specify rules will probably take awhile to
develop. I was able to obtain the files from the primary docs group in
the company (who do external docs) which was the bulk of the work."

Cathy Arthur


Cheers

-- 
Yves Barbion
www.scripto.nu


ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

2010-06-08 Thread Tim J. Slager
I was saying that Word can function reliably with large documents on a regular 
basis, provided one uses styles and templates, as recommended. (Just expect 
some exasperation with numbered lists.)

The programming option makes it possible to do things that go beyond any other 
word processing program I have encountered. It was something I would not have 
been aware of if a tech-writer-turned-VBA-programmer had not demonstrated it. I 
thought others might not be aware of this, either. Minor but thoughtful 
programming that was added to the template led to enthusiastic acceptance of 
the template by virtually the entire international company because it was so 
easy to use--and reliable. For example, a single button click reformatted 
tables to the standard and a dialog box converted documents from an old format 
to the new international standard.

Sorry for running the two concepts together. Not saying Word is better than 
Frame, just different with some positive aspects. (I still despise Word's 
numbering.)

tims

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at 
lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of qui...@airmail.net
Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 12:07 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

I rather find the apology that Word can be made to function reliably 
ONLY IF one reprograms it to be begging the question. It is usually 
thought that one buys software that functions without the user having to 
fix the program they just spent a few hundred dollars on.

Scott

On 6/3/10 12:35 PM, Tim J. Slager wrote:
> Frame is clunky; Word is quirky.
>
> I have to agree numbered lists are Word's Achilles heal, although I can 
> (usually) get them to work.
>
> I worked for 10 years at a company where we used Word to create professional 
> documentation with page counts reaching into the thousands with very 
> consistent template styles and rare file corruption. We had the advantage of 
> a developer who could make Word do almost anything and had custom tool bars 
> and automated documentation generation built into Word. The flexibility 
> allowed by VBA programming is a great strength of Word.
>
> That said, there is something comforting about the stolid reliability of 
> FM--once you get it figured out.
>
> tims
>
>
___


You are currently subscribed to framers as tslager at isdcorporation.com.

Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com.

To unsubscribe send a blank email to
framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com
or visit 
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/tslager%40isdcorporation.com

Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit
http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.


ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

2010-06-08 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
For the numbering in Word, I use Sequential fields. They are very stable.

Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
052-763-7133


On 08-Jun-10 4:06 PM, Tim J. Slager wrote:
> I was saying that Word can function reliably with large documents on a 
> regular basis, provided one uses styles and templates, as recommended. (Just 
> expect some exasperation with numbered lists.)
>
> The programming option makes it possible to do things that go beyond any 
> other word processing program I have encountered. It was something I would 
> not have been aware of if a tech-writer-turned-VBA-programmer had not 
> demonstrated it. I thought others might not be aware of this, either. Minor 
> but thoughtful programming that was added to the template led to enthusiastic 
> acceptance of the template by virtually the entire international company 
> because it was so easy to use--and reliable. For example, a single button 
> click reformatted tables to the standard and a dialog box converted documents 
> from an old format to the new international standard.
>
> Sorry for running the two concepts together. Not saying Word is better than 
> Frame, just different with some positive aspects. (I still despise Word's 
> numbering.)
>
> tims
>
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at 
> lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of quills at airmail.net
> Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 12:07 AM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word
>
> I rather find the apology that Word can be made to function reliably
> ONLY IF one reprograms it to be begging the question. It is usually
> thought that one buys software that functions without the user having to
> fix the program they just spent a few hundred dollars on.
>
> Scott
>
> On 6/3/10 12:35 PM, Tim J. Slager wrote:
>
>> Frame is clunky; Word is quirky.
>>
>> I have to agree numbered lists are Word's Achilles heal, although I can 
>> (usually) get them to work.
>>
>> I worked for 10 years at a company where we used Word to create professional 
>> documentation with page counts reaching into the thousands with very 
>> consistent template styles and rare file corruption. We had the advantage of 
>> a developer who could make Word do almost anything and had custom tool bars 
>> and automated documentation generation built into Word. The flexibility 
>> allowed by VBA programming is a great strength of Word.
>>
>> That said, there is something comforting about the stolid reliability of 
>> FM--once you get it figured out.
>>
>> tims
>>
>>
>>  
> ___
>
>
> You are currently subscribed to framers as tslager at isdcorporation.com.
>
> Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com.
>
> To unsubscribe send a blank email to
> framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com
> or visit 
> http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/tslager%40isdcorporation.com
>
> Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit
> http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
> ___
>
>
> You are currently subscribed to framers as shmuelw1 at gmail.com.
>
> Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com.
>
> To unsubscribe send a blank email to
> framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com
> or visit 
> http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shmuelw1%40gmail.com
>
> Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit
> http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
>
>


ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

2010-06-08 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Tim,

I agree that any publishing tool, no matter how good it is, can benefit from
automation. Whether you are using FrameMaker or Word, there are usually
tedious, repetitive, and error-prone tasks that can be automated. Since Word
comes with VBA, you can automate tasks in Word without buying additional
software. Adobe provides the free FDK (Frame Developers Kit) so that you can
write FrameMaker plugins. This requires a compiler and knowledge of C/C++.
You can also purchase FrameScript (http://www.framescript.com, $150), which
is a third-party scripting environment for FrameMaker. This gives you the
ability to script FrameMaker similar to how VBA works with Word and other
Office programs.

Of course, you either need programming knowledge, or the resources to
purchase scripts or plugins from solution providers. But even with minimal
automation, you can usually recoup your investment many times over. The key
is to not be limited by the publishing tool you are using, but to look at
what is possible through automation.

Disclaimer: I write FrameScript scripts for a living.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-659-8267
rick at frameexpert.com

*** Frame Automation blog at http://frameautomation.com


-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tim J. Slager
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 9:06 AM
To: quills at airmail.net
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

I was saying that Word can function reliably with large documents on a
regular basis, provided one uses styles and templates, as recommended. (Just
expect some exasperation with numbered lists.)

The programming option makes it possible to do things that go beyond any
other word processing program I have encountered. It was something I would
not have been aware of if a tech-writer-turned-VBA-programmer had not
demonstrated it. I thought others might not be aware of this, either. Minor
but thoughtful programming that was added to the template led to
enthusiastic acceptance of the template by virtually the entire
international company because it was so easy to use--and reliable. For
example, a single button click reformatted tables to the standard and a
dialog box converted documents from an old format to the new international
standard.

Sorry for running the two concepts together. Not saying Word is better than
Frame, just different with some positive aspects. (I still despise Word's
numbering.)

tims

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
quills at airmail.net
Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 12:07 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

I rather find the apology that Word can be made to function reliably 
ONLY IF one reprograms it to be begging the question. It is usually 
thought that one buys software that functions without the user having to 
fix the program they just spent a few hundred dollars on.

Scott

On 6/3/10 12:35 PM, Tim J. Slager wrote:
> Frame is clunky; Word is quirky.
>
> I have to agree numbered lists are Word's Achilles heal, although I can
(usually) get them to work.
>
> I worked for 10 years at a company where we used Word to create
professional documentation with page counts reaching into the thousands with
very consistent template styles and rare file corruption. We had the
advantage of a developer who could make Word do almost anything and had
custom tool bars and automated documentation generation built into Word. The
flexibility allowed by VBA programming is a great strength of Word.
>
> That said, there is something comforting about the stolid reliability of
FM--once you get it figured out.
>
> tims
>



Acrobat 9 Frustrations...

2010-06-08 Thread Chris Despopoulos
Hi all, and thanks for the help so far...

Yes, I found that it's the need of a patch that has caused my Acrobat problems. 
 Yes, I was completely blind, and failed to see the link to the patches...  If 
it was a snake it would have bit me -- I can never find the mustard in the 
refrigerator, either.

I currently have FrameMaker, build 8.0p236.  When I try to patch, the installer 
says I must have 8b236.  Note the change from P to B...
"You do not have the correct version of FM install (sic) on your system. This 
patch installer will work with only VERSION 8b236 build. Patch Installer will 
quit now. OK"

Given the language in that message, I'm not convinced that the "b" is 
intentional.  Nonetheless, I have 8p236 installed, and I have no other patches 
installed.

Here's what the Adobe patch download page says:
"This download updates the English, French, and German language versions
of Adobe? FrameMaker? 8p236 software (released in July 2007) to version
8p266. This patch will be available to customers who have the 8p236
build on their machine via Adobe Update Manager (AUM). "

What I have is 8.0p236, installed from an upgrade disk...  I bought an upgrade 
from 7.x to 8.  So I did not get my p236 via the AUM.  I installed it from a 
disk.  But now I can't install the patches.

Am I going crazy, or what?  Am I just so unused to installing software that I 
can't remember how to do it any more?  Or maybe there's something about Windows 
7 that's keeping me from doing this?  Has anybody else successfully installed 
an upgrade version of Maker 8 onto a new Windows 7 machine, and then applied 
the patches?

Thanks for hanging in there with me...   cud






Acrobat 9 Frustrations...

2010-06-08 Thread Mike Wickham
Chris,

Grasping at straws here, but I seem to recall in FM8 that there was a patch 
issued that had a major flaw and so Adobe issued a replacement for it within 
a day or so, but kept the same patch number. Perhaps that is why you are 
seeing the 8b236 designation instead of 8p236. Maybe you have the flawed one 
installed and need to download the newer 236 version and reapply it (perhaps 
after uninstalling the existing patch?).

Mike Wickham




Adobe Flash, PDF vulnerability

2010-06-08 Thread Mary Sheahan
Thanks everybody...I'll hope that this is the case.? And that it's not the dll 
itself causing the problem--with a publicist forgetting to mention the 
lower-volume product!

--- On Mon, 6/7/10, Art Campbell  wrote:


From: Art Campbell 
Subject: Re: Adobe Flash, PDF vulnerability
To: "Mary Sheahan" 
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Date: Monday, June 7, 2010, 11:51 AM


As a follow up, Adobe says the vulnerability is in Flash Player and Reader.
No mention of FM.

Art

Art Campbell ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 
? ? ? ?art.campbell at gmail.com
?"... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a 
redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?No disclaimers apply.
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? DoD 358



On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Art Campbell  wrote:

Do you download a lot of suspicious files or visit potentially contaminated web 
sites?

If so, you may want to RENAME .dll. But unless you think you're particularly at 
risk I wouldn't break things.

Art Campbell ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 
? ? ? ?art.campbell at gmail.com
?"... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a 
redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?No disclaimers apply.
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? DoD 358






On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Mary Sheahan  wrote:

On Friday Adobe issued a security advisory for a critical vulnerability in 
Acrobat (URLs below for details).

The recommended pre-patch fix is to delete authplay.dll which ships with 
Acrobat Reader and Acrobat 9.x for Windows. ?I have at one time or another had 
both installed so I did a search across my hard drive -- and learned that this 
file is also in my FrameMaker 9 program folder.

Does anyone know if I should delete it from there as well? ?Or will it cause 
FM9 problems if it's not there?

Thanks,
Mary



http://www.adobe.com/support/security/advisories/apsa10-01.html

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/adobe-warns-of-flash-pdf-zero-day-attacks/6606?tag=nl.e539

Adobe warns of Flash, PDF zero-day attacks



___


You are currently subscribed to framers as art.campbell at gmail.com.

Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com.

To unsubscribe send a blank email to
framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com
or visit 
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com

Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit
http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.








ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

2010-06-08 Thread David Creamer
> I was saying that Word can function reliably with large documents on a regular
> basis, provided one uses styles and templates, as recommended. (Just expect
> some exasperation with numbered lists.)

Another thing that will "stabilize" Word documents is to link to graphics
rather than embed or cut-and-paste. Unfortunately, Word does not make it as
easy to link/reference the graphic as other programs do.


David Creamer
IDEAS Training & Consultation
http://www.IDEAStraining.com
Adobe Certified Trainer for Photoshop, Illustrator, Acrobat, InDesign,
InCopy, FrameMaker, Dreamweaver, Premiere, GoLive, and PageMaker
Authorized Quark Training Provider
Enfocus PitStop, Markzware FlightCheck, & FileMaker Authorized Trainer




Page Numbering Format (# of ##) in an FM Book

2010-06-08 Thread Graham, Jasmine S
Hello Framers,



I need to setup page numbering formatted as "Page # of ##" in a book with 
several files. The Page Count variable (building block <$lastpagenum>), pulls 
the last page number of the current file, not the last page number in the book. 
So, it's correct in the last file of the book, but not the others.



Is there any way to set up a variable that will read the last page number in 
the book? Or, is there another way to accomplish this without setting it 
manually after I generate the final book? 



TIA!



Jasmine Graham

Technical Writer, Research and Development 

Wireline Services

Weatherford ? 481 Winscott Road ? Fort Worth ? TX ? 76126 

Main: +1.817.249.7200 ? Direct: +1.817.249.7032 ? Fax: +1.817.249.7885 ? 
Mobile: +1.817.235.3620 

jasmine.graham at weatherford.com ? www.weatherford.com

===
CONFIDENTIAL & PRIVILEGED COMMUNICATION

The information contained in this message is privileged, confidential, and 
protected from disclosure.
This message is intended for the individual or entity addressed herein. 
If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or 
disclose this communication to others. 
Also please notify the sender by replying to this message, and then delete it 
from your system. 
The sender totally disclaims, and will not accept, any responsibility or 
liability for the unauthorized use, 
or the consequences of any unauthorized use, of this communication or message.


Page Numbering Format (# of ##) in an FM Book

2010-06-08 Thread David Spreadbury
Jazz,
If memory serves me, Rick Quartro has a script that will do this.
?
If he doesn't, and you are delivering PDFs, you can do this in Acrobat.
I just tested it and it works with Acrobat 8.
?
In Acrobat, open you PDF and select Document > Add Header and Footer.
Then select Setup Page Number and Date format, select 1 of n.
Select Insert page number.
?
If you have to revert to this option, you?might want to edit your Frame footer 
to?accommodate the Acrobat page numbering. Otherwise it could get a little 
messy.

--- On Tue, 6/8/10, Graham, Jasmine S  
wrote:


From: Graham, Jasmine S 
Subject: Page Numbering Format (# of ##) in an FM Book
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Date: Tuesday, June 8, 2010, 12:34 PM


Hello Framers,



I need to setup page numbering formatted as "Page # of ##" in a book with 
several files. The Page Count variable (building block <$lastpagenum>), pulls 
the last page number of the current file, not the last page number in the book. 
So, it's correct in the last file of the book, but not the others.



Is there any way to set up a variable that will read the last page number in 
the book? Or, is there another way to accomplish this without setting it 
manually after I generate the final book? 



TIA!



Jasmine Graham

Technical Writer, Research and Development 

Wireline Services

Weatherford ? 481 Winscott Road ? Fort Worth ? TX ? 76126 

Main: +1.817.249.7200 ? Direct: +1.817.249.7032 ? Fax: +1.817.249.7885 ? 
Mobile: +1.817.235.3620 

jasmine.graham at weatherford.com ? www.weatherford.com

===
CONFIDENTIAL & PRIVILEGED COMMUNICATION

The information contained in this message is privileged, confidential, and 
protected from disclosure.
This message is intended for the individual or entity addressed herein. 
If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or 
disclose this communication to others. 
Also please notify the sender by replying to this message, and then delete it 
from your system. 
The sender totally disclaims, and will not accept, any responsibility or 
liability for the unauthorized use, 
or the consequences of any unauthorized use, of this communication or message.
___


You are currently subscribed to framers as dspreadb at yahoo.com.

Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com.

To unsubscribe send a blank email to
framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com
or visit 
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dspreadb%40yahoo.com

Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit
http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.


Page Numbering Format (# of ##) in an FM Book

2010-06-08 Thread Bernard Gagne
Jasmine,
The easiest way I found was to insert the <$lastpagenum> variable in the very 
last page of my book, and cross-reference it for all the other chapters.
It worked just fine.

Berny Gagne




From: "Graham, Jasmine S" 
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Tue, June 8, 2010 1:34:24 PM
Subject: Page Numbering Format (# of ##) in an FM Book

Hello Framers,



I need to setup page numbering formatted as "Page # of ##" in a book with 
several files. The Page Count variable (building block <$lastpagenum>), pulls 
the last page number of the current file, not the last page number in the book. 
So, it's correct in the last file of the book, but not the others.



Is there any way to set up a variable that will read the last page number in 
the book? Or, is there another way to accomplish this without setting it 
manually after I generate the final book? 



TIA!



Jasmine Graham

Technical Writer, Research and Development 

Wireline Services

Weatherford ? 481 Winscott Road ? Fort Worth ? TX ? 76126 

Main: +1.817.249.7200 ? Direct: +1.817.249.7032 ? Fax: +1.817.249.7885 ? 
Mobile: +1.817.235.3620 

jasmine.graham at weatherford.com? www.weatherford.com

===
CONFIDENTIAL & PRIVILEGED COMMUNICATION

The information contained in this message is privileged, confidential, and 
protected from disclosure.
This message is intended for the individual or entity addressed herein. 
If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or 
disclose this communication to others. 
Also please notify the sender by replying to this message, and then delete it 
from your system. 
The sender totally disclaims, and will not accept, any responsibility or 
liability for the unauthorized use, 
or the consequences of any unauthorized use, of this communication or message.
___


You are currently subscribed to framers as bernygagne at rogers.com.

Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com.

To unsubscribe send a blank email to
framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com
or visit 
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bernygagne%40rogers.com

Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit
http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.