Re: FM9 and SDL Author Assistant: Has anyone used this?
Hi Alison I asked the same question in March. Cathy Arthur was the only one who had actually used it. This was her reply: I implemented it in my group several months ago. I really like it and it has definitely improved everyone's writing. We do not translate, but we do write for a very technical audience that does not always have excellent English skills. The files that are used to specify rules will probably take awhile to develop. I was able to obtain the files from the primary docs group in the company (who do external docs) which was the bulk of the work. Cathy Arthur Cheers -- Yves Barbion www.scripto.nu ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word
I was saying that Word can function reliably with large documents on a regular basis, provided one uses styles and templates, as recommended. (Just expect some exasperation with numbered lists.) The programming option makes it possible to do things that go beyond any other word processing program I have encountered. It was something I would not have been aware of if a tech-writer-turned-VBA-programmer had not demonstrated it. I thought others might not be aware of this, either. Minor but thoughtful programming that was added to the template led to enthusiastic acceptance of the template by virtually the entire international company because it was so easy to use--and reliable. For example, a single button click reformatted tables to the standard and a dialog box converted documents from an old format to the new international standard. Sorry for running the two concepts together. Not saying Word is better than Frame, just different with some positive aspects. (I still despise Word's numbering.) tims -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of qui...@airmail.net Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 12:07 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word I rather find the apology that Word can be made to function reliably ONLY IF one reprograms it to be begging the question. It is usually thought that one buys software that functions without the user having to fix the program they just spent a few hundred dollars on. Scott On 6/3/10 12:35 PM, Tim J. Slager wrote: Frame is clunky; Word is quirky. I have to agree numbered lists are Word's Achilles heal, although I can (usually) get them to work. I worked for 10 years at a company where we used Word to create professional documentation with page counts reaching into the thousands with very consistent template styles and rare file corruption. We had the advantage of a developer who could make Word do almost anything and had custom tool bars and automated documentation generation built into Word. The flexibility allowed by VBA programming is a great strength of Word. That said, there is something comforting about the stolid reliability of FM--once you get it figured out. tims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as tsla...@isdcorporation.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/tslager%40isdcorporation.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word
For the numbering in Word, I use Sequential fields. They are very stable. Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Technical Writer 052-763-7133 On 08-Jun-10 4:06 PM, Tim J. Slager wrote: I was saying that Word can function reliably with large documents on a regular basis, provided one uses styles and templates, as recommended. (Just expect some exasperation with numbered lists.) The programming option makes it possible to do things that go beyond any other word processing program I have encountered. It was something I would not have been aware of if a tech-writer-turned-VBA-programmer had not demonstrated it. I thought others might not be aware of this, either. Minor but thoughtful programming that was added to the template led to enthusiastic acceptance of the template by virtually the entire international company because it was so easy to use--and reliable. For example, a single button click reformatted tables to the standard and a dialog box converted documents from an old format to the new international standard. Sorry for running the two concepts together. Not saying Word is better than Frame, just different with some positive aspects. (I still despise Word's numbering.) tims -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of qui...@airmail.net Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 12:07 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word I rather find the apology that Word can be made to function reliably ONLY IF one reprograms it to be begging the question. It is usually thought that one buys software that functions without the user having to fix the program they just spent a few hundred dollars on. Scott On 6/3/10 12:35 PM, Tim J. Slager wrote: Frame is clunky; Word is quirky. I have to agree numbered lists are Word's Achilles heal, although I can (usually) get them to work. I worked for 10 years at a company where we used Word to create professional documentation with page counts reaching into the thousands with very consistent template styles and rare file corruption. We had the advantage of a developer who could make Word do almost anything and had custom tool bars and automated documentation generation built into Word. The flexibility allowed by VBA programming is a great strength of Word. That said, there is something comforting about the stolid reliability of FM--once you get it figured out. tims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as tsla...@isdcorporation.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/tslager%40isdcorporation.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as shmue...@gmail.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shmuelw1%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word
Hi Tim, I agree that any publishing tool, no matter how good it is, can benefit from automation. Whether you are using FrameMaker or Word, there are usually tedious, repetitive, and error-prone tasks that can be automated. Since Word comes with VBA, you can automate tasks in Word without buying additional software. Adobe provides the free FDK (Frame Developers Kit) so that you can write FrameMaker plugins. This requires a compiler and knowledge of C/C++. You can also purchase FrameScript (http://www.framescript.com, $150), which is a third-party scripting environment for FrameMaker. This gives you the ability to script FrameMaker similar to how VBA works with Word and other Office programs. Of course, you either need programming knowledge, or the resources to purchase scripts or plugins from solution providers. But even with minimal automation, you can usually recoup your investment many times over. The key is to not be limited by the publishing tool you are using, but to look at what is possible through automation. Disclaimer: I write FrameScript scripts for a living. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-659-8267 r...@frameexpert.com *** Frame Automation blog at http://frameautomation.com -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tim J. Slager Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 9:06 AM To: qui...@airmail.net Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word I was saying that Word can function reliably with large documents on a regular basis, provided one uses styles and templates, as recommended. (Just expect some exasperation with numbered lists.) The programming option makes it possible to do things that go beyond any other word processing program I have encountered. It was something I would not have been aware of if a tech-writer-turned-VBA-programmer had not demonstrated it. I thought others might not be aware of this, either. Minor but thoughtful programming that was added to the template led to enthusiastic acceptance of the template by virtually the entire international company because it was so easy to use--and reliable. For example, a single button click reformatted tables to the standard and a dialog box converted documents from an old format to the new international standard. Sorry for running the two concepts together. Not saying Word is better than Frame, just different with some positive aspects. (I still despise Word's numbering.) tims -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of qui...@airmail.net Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 12:07 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word I rather find the apology that Word can be made to function reliably ONLY IF one reprograms it to be begging the question. It is usually thought that one buys software that functions without the user having to fix the program they just spent a few hundred dollars on. Scott On 6/3/10 12:35 PM, Tim J. Slager wrote: Frame is clunky; Word is quirky. I have to agree numbered lists are Word's Achilles heal, although I can (usually) get them to work. I worked for 10 years at a company where we used Word to create professional documentation with page counts reaching into the thousands with very consistent template styles and rare file corruption. We had the advantage of a developer who could make Word do almost anything and had custom tool bars and automated documentation generation built into Word. The flexibility allowed by VBA programming is a great strength of Word. That said, there is something comforting about the stolid reliability of FM--once you get it figured out. tims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Acrobat 9 Frustrations...
Hi all, and thanks for the help so far... Yes, I found that it's the need of a patch that has caused my Acrobat problems. Yes, I was completely blind, and failed to see the link to the patches... If it was a snake it would have bit me -- I can never find the mustard in the refrigerator, either. I currently have FrameMaker, build 8.0p236. When I try to patch, the installer says I must have 8b236. Note the change from P to B... You do not have the correct version of FM install (sic) on your system. This patch installer will work with only VERSION 8b236 build. Patch Installer will quit now. OK Given the language in that message, I'm not convinced that the b is intentional. Nonetheless, I have 8p236 installed, and I have no other patches installed. Here's what the Adobe patch download page says: This download updates the English, French, and German language versions of Adobe® FrameMaker® 8p236 software (released in July 2007) to version 8p266. This patch will be available to customers who have the 8p236 build on their machine via Adobe Update Manager (AUM). What I have is 8.0p236, installed from an upgrade disk... I bought an upgrade from 7.x to 8. So I did not get my p236 via the AUM. I installed it from a disk. But now I can't install the patches. Am I going crazy, or what? Am I just so unused to installing software that I can't remember how to do it any more? Or maybe there's something about Windows 7 that's keeping me from doing this? Has anybody else successfully installed an upgrade version of Maker 8 onto a new Windows 7 machine, and then applied the patches? Thanks for hanging in there with me... cud ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Acrobat 9 Frustrations...
Chris, Grasping at straws here, but I seem to recall in FM8 that there was a patch issued that had a major flaw and so Adobe issued a replacement for it within a day or so, but kept the same patch number. Perhaps that is why you are seeing the 8b236 designation instead of 8p236. Maybe you have the flawed one installed and need to download the newer 236 version and reapply it (perhaps after uninstalling the existing patch?). Mike Wickham ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Adobe Flash, PDF vulnerability
Thanks everybody...I'll hope that this is the case. And that it's not the dll itself causing the problem--with a publicist forgetting to mention the lower-volume product! --- On Mon, 6/7/10, Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com wrote: From: Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Adobe Flash, PDF vulnerability To: Mary Sheahan mhs...@yahoo.com Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Date: Monday, June 7, 2010, 11:51 AM As a follow up, Adobe says the vulnerability is in Flash Player and Reader. No mention of FM. Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com wrote: Do you download a lot of suspicious files or visit potentially contaminated web sites? If so, you may want to RENAME .dll. But unless you think you're particularly at risk I wouldn't break things. Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Mary Sheahan mhs...@yahoo.com wrote: On Friday Adobe issued a security advisory for a critical vulnerability in Acrobat (URLs below for details). The recommended pre-patch fix is to delete authplay.dll which ships with Acrobat Reader and Acrobat 9.x for Windows. I have at one time or another had both installed so I did a search across my hard drive -- and learned that this file is also in my FrameMaker 9 program folder. Does anyone know if I should delete it from there as well? Or will it cause FM9 problems if it's not there? Thanks, Mary http://www.adobe.com/support/security/advisories/apsa10-01.html http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/adobe-warns-of-flash-pdf-zero-day-attacks/6606?tag=nl.e539 Adobe warns of Flash, PDF zero-day attacks ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word
I was saying that Word can function reliably with large documents on a regular basis, provided one uses styles and templates, as recommended. (Just expect some exasperation with numbered lists.) Another thing that will stabilize Word documents is to link to graphics rather than embed or cut-and-paste. Unfortunately, Word does not make it as easy to link/reference the graphic as other programs do. David Creamer IDEAS Training Consultation http://www.IDEAStraining.com Adobe Certified Trainer for Photoshop, Illustrator, Acrobat, InDesign, InCopy, FrameMaker, Dreamweaver, Premiere, GoLive, and PageMaker Authorized Quark Training Provider Enfocus PitStop, Markzware FlightCheck, FileMaker Authorized Trainer ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Page Numbering Format (# of ##) in an FM Book
Hello Framers, I need to setup page numbering formatted as Page # of ## in a book with several files. The Page Count variable (building block $lastpagenum), pulls the last page number of the current file, not the last page number in the book. So, it's correct in the last file of the book, but not the others. Is there any way to set up a variable that will read the last page number in the book? Or, is there another way to accomplish this without setting it manually after I generate the final book? TIA! Jasmine Graham Technical Writer, Research and Development Wireline Services Weatherford │ 481 Winscott Road │ Fort Worth │ TX │ 76126 Main: +1.817.249.7200 │ Direct: +1.817.249.7032 │ Fax: +1.817.249.7885 │ Mobile: +1.817.235.3620 jasmine.gra...@weatherford.com │ www.weatherford.com === CONFIDENTIAL PRIVILEGED COMMUNICATION The information contained in this message is privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure. This message is intended for the individual or entity addressed herein. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose this communication to others. Also please notify the sender by replying to this message, and then delete it from your system. The sender totally disclaims, and will not accept, any responsibility or liability for the unauthorized use, or the consequences of any unauthorized use, of this communication or message. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Page Numbering Format (# of ##) in an FM Book
Jazz, If memory serves me, Rick Quartro has a script that will do this. If he doesn't, and you are delivering PDFs, you can do this in Acrobat. I just tested it and it works with Acrobat 8. In Acrobat, open you PDF and select Document Add Header and Footer. Then select Setup Page Number and Date format, select 1 of n. Select Insert page number. If you have to revert to this option, you might want to edit your Frame footer to accommodate the Acrobat page numbering. Otherwise it could get a little messy. --- On Tue, 6/8/10, Graham, Jasmine S yassamin.gra...@weatherford.com wrote: From: Graham, Jasmine S yassamin.gra...@weatherford.com Subject: Page Numbering Format (# of ##) in an FM Book To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Date: Tuesday, June 8, 2010, 12:34 PM Hello Framers, I need to setup page numbering formatted as Page # of ## in a book with several files. The Page Count variable (building block $lastpagenum), pulls the last page number of the current file, not the last page number in the book. So, it's correct in the last file of the book, but not the others. Is there any way to set up a variable that will read the last page number in the book? Or, is there another way to accomplish this without setting it manually after I generate the final book? TIA! Jasmine Graham Technical Writer, Research and Development Wireline Services Weatherford │ 481 Winscott Road │ Fort Worth │ TX │ 76126 Main: +1.817.249.7200 │ Direct: +1.817.249.7032 │ Fax: +1.817.249.7885 │ Mobile: +1.817.235.3620 jasmine.gra...@weatherford.com │ www.weatherford.com === CONFIDENTIAL PRIVILEGED COMMUNICATION The information contained in this message is privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure. This message is intended for the individual or entity addressed herein. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose this communication to others. Also please notify the sender by replying to this message, and then delete it from your system. The sender totally disclaims, and will not accept, any responsibility or liability for the unauthorized use, or the consequences of any unauthorized use, of this communication or message. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as dspre...@yahoo.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dspreadb%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FM9 and SDL Author Assistant: Has anyone used this?
Hi Alison I asked the same question in March. Cathy Arthur was the only one who had actually used it. This was her reply: "I implemented it in my group several months ago. I really like it and it has definitely improved everyone's writing. We do not translate, but we do write for a very technical audience that does not always have excellent English skills. The files that are used to specify rules will probably take awhile to develop. I was able to obtain the files from the primary docs group in the company (who do external docs) which was the bulk of the work." Cathy Arthur Cheers -- Yves Barbion www.scripto.nu
ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word
I was saying that Word can function reliably with large documents on a regular basis, provided one uses styles and templates, as recommended. (Just expect some exasperation with numbered lists.) The programming option makes it possible to do things that go beyond any other word processing program I have encountered. It was something I would not have been aware of if a tech-writer-turned-VBA-programmer had not demonstrated it. I thought others might not be aware of this, either. Minor but thoughtful programming that was added to the template led to enthusiastic acceptance of the template by virtually the entire international company because it was so easy to use--and reliable. For example, a single button click reformatted tables to the standard and a dialog box converted documents from an old format to the new international standard. Sorry for running the two concepts together. Not saying Word is better than Frame, just different with some positive aspects. (I still despise Word's numbering.) tims -Original Message- From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of qui...@airmail.net Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 12:07 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word I rather find the apology that Word can be made to function reliably ONLY IF one reprograms it to be begging the question. It is usually thought that one buys software that functions without the user having to fix the program they just spent a few hundred dollars on. Scott On 6/3/10 12:35 PM, Tim J. Slager wrote: > Frame is clunky; Word is quirky. > > I have to agree numbered lists are Word's Achilles heal, although I can > (usually) get them to work. > > I worked for 10 years at a company where we used Word to create professional > documentation with page counts reaching into the thousands with very > consistent template styles and rare file corruption. We had the advantage of > a developer who could make Word do almost anything and had custom tool bars > and automated documentation generation built into Word. The flexibility > allowed by VBA programming is a great strength of Word. > > That said, there is something comforting about the stolid reliability of > FM--once you get it figured out. > > tims > > ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as tslager at isdcorporation.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/tslager%40isdcorporation.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word
For the numbering in Word, I use Sequential fields. They are very stable. Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Technical Writer 052-763-7133 On 08-Jun-10 4:06 PM, Tim J. Slager wrote: > I was saying that Word can function reliably with large documents on a > regular basis, provided one uses styles and templates, as recommended. (Just > expect some exasperation with numbered lists.) > > The programming option makes it possible to do things that go beyond any > other word processing program I have encountered. It was something I would > not have been aware of if a tech-writer-turned-VBA-programmer had not > demonstrated it. I thought others might not be aware of this, either. Minor > but thoughtful programming that was added to the template led to enthusiastic > acceptance of the template by virtually the entire international company > because it was so easy to use--and reliable. For example, a single button > click reformatted tables to the standard and a dialog box converted documents > from an old format to the new international standard. > > Sorry for running the two concepts together. Not saying Word is better than > Frame, just different with some positive aspects. (I still despise Word's > numbering.) > > tims > > -Original Message- > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at > lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of quills at airmail.net > Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 12:07 AM > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word > > I rather find the apology that Word can be made to function reliably > ONLY IF one reprograms it to be begging the question. It is usually > thought that one buys software that functions without the user having to > fix the program they just spent a few hundred dollars on. > > Scott > > On 6/3/10 12:35 PM, Tim J. Slager wrote: > >> Frame is clunky; Word is quirky. >> >> I have to agree numbered lists are Word's Achilles heal, although I can >> (usually) get them to work. >> >> I worked for 10 years at a company where we used Word to create professional >> documentation with page counts reaching into the thousands with very >> consistent template styles and rare file corruption. We had the advantage of >> a developer who could make Word do almost anything and had custom tool bars >> and automated documentation generation built into Word. The flexibility >> allowed by VBA programming is a great strength of Word. >> >> That said, there is something comforting about the stolid reliability of >> FM--once you get it figured out. >> >> tims >> >> >> > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as tslager at isdcorporation.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/tslager%40isdcorporation.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as shmuelw1 at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shmuelw1%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > >
ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word
Hi Tim, I agree that any publishing tool, no matter how good it is, can benefit from automation. Whether you are using FrameMaker or Word, there are usually tedious, repetitive, and error-prone tasks that can be automated. Since Word comes with VBA, you can automate tasks in Word without buying additional software. Adobe provides the free FDK (Frame Developers Kit) so that you can write FrameMaker plugins. This requires a compiler and knowledge of C/C++. You can also purchase FrameScript (http://www.framescript.com, $150), which is a third-party scripting environment for FrameMaker. This gives you the ability to script FrameMaker similar to how VBA works with Word and other Office programs. Of course, you either need programming knowledge, or the resources to purchase scripts or plugins from solution providers. But even with minimal automation, you can usually recoup your investment many times over. The key is to not be limited by the publishing tool you are using, but to look at what is possible through automation. Disclaimer: I write FrameScript scripts for a living. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-659-8267 rick at frameexpert.com *** Frame Automation blog at http://frameautomation.com -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tim J. Slager Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 9:06 AM To: quills at airmail.net Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word I was saying that Word can function reliably with large documents on a regular basis, provided one uses styles and templates, as recommended. (Just expect some exasperation with numbered lists.) The programming option makes it possible to do things that go beyond any other word processing program I have encountered. It was something I would not have been aware of if a tech-writer-turned-VBA-programmer had not demonstrated it. I thought others might not be aware of this, either. Minor but thoughtful programming that was added to the template led to enthusiastic acceptance of the template by virtually the entire international company because it was so easy to use--and reliable. For example, a single button click reformatted tables to the standard and a dialog box converted documents from an old format to the new international standard. Sorry for running the two concepts together. Not saying Word is better than Frame, just different with some positive aspects. (I still despise Word's numbering.) tims -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of quills at airmail.net Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 12:07 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word I rather find the apology that Word can be made to function reliably ONLY IF one reprograms it to be begging the question. It is usually thought that one buys software that functions without the user having to fix the program they just spent a few hundred dollars on. Scott On 6/3/10 12:35 PM, Tim J. Slager wrote: > Frame is clunky; Word is quirky. > > I have to agree numbered lists are Word's Achilles heal, although I can (usually) get them to work. > > I worked for 10 years at a company where we used Word to create professional documentation with page counts reaching into the thousands with very consistent template styles and rare file corruption. We had the advantage of a developer who could make Word do almost anything and had custom tool bars and automated documentation generation built into Word. The flexibility allowed by VBA programming is a great strength of Word. > > That said, there is something comforting about the stolid reliability of FM--once you get it figured out. > > tims >
Acrobat 9 Frustrations...
Hi all, and thanks for the help so far... Yes, I found that it's the need of a patch that has caused my Acrobat problems. Yes, I was completely blind, and failed to see the link to the patches... If it was a snake it would have bit me -- I can never find the mustard in the refrigerator, either. I currently have FrameMaker, build 8.0p236. When I try to patch, the installer says I must have 8b236. Note the change from P to B... "You do not have the correct version of FM install (sic) on your system. This patch installer will work with only VERSION 8b236 build. Patch Installer will quit now. OK" Given the language in that message, I'm not convinced that the "b" is intentional. Nonetheless, I have 8p236 installed, and I have no other patches installed. Here's what the Adobe patch download page says: "This download updates the English, French, and German language versions of Adobe? FrameMaker? 8p236 software (released in July 2007) to version 8p266. This patch will be available to customers who have the 8p236 build on their machine via Adobe Update Manager (AUM). " What I have is 8.0p236, installed from an upgrade disk... I bought an upgrade from 7.x to 8. So I did not get my p236 via the AUM. I installed it from a disk. But now I can't install the patches. Am I going crazy, or what? Am I just so unused to installing software that I can't remember how to do it any more? Or maybe there's something about Windows 7 that's keeping me from doing this? Has anybody else successfully installed an upgrade version of Maker 8 onto a new Windows 7 machine, and then applied the patches? Thanks for hanging in there with me... cud
Acrobat 9 Frustrations...
Chris, Grasping at straws here, but I seem to recall in FM8 that there was a patch issued that had a major flaw and so Adobe issued a replacement for it within a day or so, but kept the same patch number. Perhaps that is why you are seeing the 8b236 designation instead of 8p236. Maybe you have the flawed one installed and need to download the newer 236 version and reapply it (perhaps after uninstalling the existing patch?). Mike Wickham
Adobe Flash, PDF vulnerability
Thanks everybody...I'll hope that this is the case.? And that it's not the dll itself causing the problem--with a publicist forgetting to mention the lower-volume product! --- On Mon, 6/7/10, Art Campbell wrote: From: Art CampbellSubject: Re: Adobe Flash, PDF vulnerability To: "Mary Sheahan" Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Date: Monday, June 7, 2010, 11:51 AM As a follow up, Adobe says the vulnerability is in Flash Player and Reader. No mention of FM. Art Art Campbell ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?art.campbell at gmail.com ?"... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?No disclaimers apply. ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? DoD 358 On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Art Campbell wrote: Do you download a lot of suspicious files or visit potentially contaminated web sites? If so, you may want to RENAME .dll. But unless you think you're particularly at risk I wouldn't break things. Art Campbell ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?art.campbell at gmail.com ?"... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?No disclaimers apply. ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? DoD 358 On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Mary Sheahan wrote: On Friday Adobe issued a security advisory for a critical vulnerability in Acrobat (URLs below for details). The recommended pre-patch fix is to delete authplay.dll which ships with Acrobat Reader and Acrobat 9.x for Windows. ?I have at one time or another had both installed so I did a search across my hard drive -- and learned that this file is also in my FrameMaker 9 program folder. Does anyone know if I should delete it from there as well? ?Or will it cause FM9 problems if it's not there? Thanks, Mary http://www.adobe.com/support/security/advisories/apsa10-01.html http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/adobe-warns-of-flash-pdf-zero-day-attacks/6606?tag=nl.e539 Adobe warns of Flash, PDF zero-day attacks ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word
> I was saying that Word can function reliably with large documents on a regular > basis, provided one uses styles and templates, as recommended. (Just expect > some exasperation with numbered lists.) Another thing that will "stabilize" Word documents is to link to graphics rather than embed or cut-and-paste. Unfortunately, Word does not make it as easy to link/reference the graphic as other programs do. David Creamer IDEAS Training & Consultation http://www.IDEAStraining.com Adobe Certified Trainer for Photoshop, Illustrator, Acrobat, InDesign, InCopy, FrameMaker, Dreamweaver, Premiere, GoLive, and PageMaker Authorized Quark Training Provider Enfocus PitStop, Markzware FlightCheck, & FileMaker Authorized Trainer
Page Numbering Format (# of ##) in an FM Book
Hello Framers, I need to setup page numbering formatted as "Page # of ##" in a book with several files. The Page Count variable (building block <$lastpagenum>), pulls the last page number of the current file, not the last page number in the book. So, it's correct in the last file of the book, but not the others. Is there any way to set up a variable that will read the last page number in the book? Or, is there another way to accomplish this without setting it manually after I generate the final book? TIA! Jasmine Graham Technical Writer, Research and Development Wireline Services Weatherford ? 481 Winscott Road ? Fort Worth ? TX ? 76126 Main: +1.817.249.7200 ? Direct: +1.817.249.7032 ? Fax: +1.817.249.7885 ? Mobile: +1.817.235.3620 jasmine.graham at weatherford.com ? www.weatherford.com === CONFIDENTIAL & PRIVILEGED COMMUNICATION The information contained in this message is privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure. This message is intended for the individual or entity addressed herein. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose this communication to others. Also please notify the sender by replying to this message, and then delete it from your system. The sender totally disclaims, and will not accept, any responsibility or liability for the unauthorized use, or the consequences of any unauthorized use, of this communication or message.
Page Numbering Format (# of ##) in an FM Book
Jazz, If memory serves me, Rick Quartro has a script that will do this. ? If he doesn't, and you are delivering PDFs, you can do this in Acrobat. I just tested it and it works with Acrobat 8. ? In Acrobat, open you PDF and select Document > Add Header and Footer. Then select Setup Page Number and Date format, select 1 of n. Select Insert page number. ? If you have to revert to this option, you?might want to edit your Frame footer to?accommodate the Acrobat page numbering. Otherwise it could get a little messy. --- On Tue, 6/8/10, Graham, Jasmine S wrote: From: Graham, Jasmine SSubject: Page Numbering Format (# of ##) in an FM Book To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Date: Tuesday, June 8, 2010, 12:34 PM Hello Framers, I need to setup page numbering formatted as "Page # of ##" in a book with several files. The Page Count variable (building block <$lastpagenum>), pulls the last page number of the current file, not the last page number in the book. So, it's correct in the last file of the book, but not the others. Is there any way to set up a variable that will read the last page number in the book? Or, is there another way to accomplish this without setting it manually after I generate the final book? TIA! Jasmine Graham Technical Writer, Research and Development Wireline Services Weatherford ? 481 Winscott Road ? Fort Worth ? TX ? 76126 Main: +1.817.249.7200 ? Direct: +1.817.249.7032 ? Fax: +1.817.249.7885 ? Mobile: +1.817.235.3620 jasmine.graham at weatherford.com ? www.weatherford.com === CONFIDENTIAL & PRIVILEGED COMMUNICATION The information contained in this message is privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure. This message is intended for the individual or entity addressed herein. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose this communication to others. Also please notify the sender by replying to this message, and then delete it from your system. The sender totally disclaims, and will not accept, any responsibility or liability for the unauthorized use, or the consequences of any unauthorized use, of this communication or message. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as dspreadb at yahoo.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dspreadb%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Page Numbering Format (# of ##) in an FM Book
Jasmine, The easiest way I found was to insert the <$lastpagenum> variable in the very last page of my book, and cross-reference it for all the other chapters. It worked just fine. Berny Gagne From: "Graham, Jasmine S"To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Sent: Tue, June 8, 2010 1:34:24 PM Subject: Page Numbering Format (# of ##) in an FM Book Hello Framers, I need to setup page numbering formatted as "Page # of ##" in a book with several files. The Page Count variable (building block <$lastpagenum>), pulls the last page number of the current file, not the last page number in the book. So, it's correct in the last file of the book, but not the others. Is there any way to set up a variable that will read the last page number in the book? Or, is there another way to accomplish this without setting it manually after I generate the final book? TIA! Jasmine Graham Technical Writer, Research and Development Wireline Services Weatherford ? 481 Winscott Road ? Fort Worth ? TX ? 76126 Main: +1.817.249.7200 ? Direct: +1.817.249.7032 ? Fax: +1.817.249.7885 ? Mobile: +1.817.235.3620 jasmine.graham at weatherford.com? www.weatherford.com === CONFIDENTIAL & PRIVILEGED COMMUNICATION The information contained in this message is privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure. This message is intended for the individual or entity addressed herein. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose this communication to others. Also please notify the sender by replying to this message, and then delete it from your system. The sender totally disclaims, and will not accept, any responsibility or liability for the unauthorized use, or the consequences of any unauthorized use, of this communication or message. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as bernygagne at rogers.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bernygagne%40rogers.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.