"Next Pgf Tag" problem solved

[Meyer, Bernard]

Sorry, folks for my prior email; I just found an archived Framer's msg that let 
me know that patch 277 fixed this problem. I installed it, and sure enough, 
fixed. I am so glad this list is here!

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"Next Pgf Tag" instruction not working

[Meyer, Bernard]

Hello, Framers. Hoping you can help me diagnose an anomaly:
(I am using FM 8.0p273 on Windows XP Pro, vers. 2002, Service Pack 3.)
==
Our FM templates define paragraph tags named "FigureNumber" and "FigureTitle".
In the "FigureNumber" definition, the "Next Pgf Tag" box is checked and the 
specified following tag is "FigureTitle"
So, if I create a "FigureNumber" paragraph and hit , the next paragraph 
SHOULD automatically be a "FigureTitle".
However, what actually happens is that this just creates a second 
"FigureNumber" paragraph. Of course I can manually change it to what I 
intended, but I should not have to do this.
I had my colleagues try the same thing, both with existing files on their 
systems and with fresh copies of the template file. One person did not have 
this effect, the other two who responded had the same effect as I did.
I am completely nonplussed on this one.

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[Meyer, Bernard]

Sorry, folks for my prior email; I just found an archived Framer's msg that let 
me know that patch 277 fixed this problem. I installed it, and sure enough, 
fixed. I am so glad this list is here!

Bernie Meyer
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Framemaker 7 - need bookmarks and cropmarks in PDF

[Fred Ridder]

Newbie Christine asked:


> First-timer here to this site...why cannot I not generate a pdf with both 
> bookmarks and cropmarks?

That's by design. It's "horses for courses".
Crop marks are only useful/relevant when you're preparing camera-ready copy and 
the final deliverable with be hard copy. Bookmarks are only useable when you're 
preparing an electronic deliverable (the PDF itself) that will be used 
interactively. If you're preparing camera-ready copy, hyperlinks and 
interactive features are useless and just get in the way in the printing 
process. When you're delivering an interactive document, it's really annoying 
for users to see a large page area with a small text area and crop marks, since 
that forces them to zoom in to make the text easier to read and then live have 
to scroll over large amounts of whitespace in the top and bottom page margins. 
If you select "Generate Acrobat Data" (i.e. enable interactive features), 
FrameMaker automatically disables crop marks, and vice versa. If you're 
generating PDFs for two disparate purposes, you should be generating two 
separate, optimized PDFs.
-Fred Ridder  

Off topic - Parallels price loading

[Kevin Farwell]

Hello,

I'm not about to defend Parallels, as I have my own troubles with 
them, but I downloaded a version a few weeks ago and did not pay the 
download service fee. I just looked at the web site and found I could 
buy another copy, not that I would, without the service. Just click 
the "Remove" button on the right.

Kevin

At 11:00 AM +1200 8/18/10, Alan T Litchfield wrote:
>On 18/08/2010, at 10:51 AM, Owen, Clint wrote:
>
>>Alan,
>>
>>I am not defending Apple, because I have not dealt with them, but this
>>could be a matter of terminology.
>
>Actually, nothing to do with Apple. And I have never had this 
>problem with them.
>
>This is these guys: http://www.parallels.com/
>
>>
>>For some software that I have bought in the past, an "extended download
>>service" would let you download a fresh copy of your purchase for an
>>extended length of time. So, the standard price gives you 30 days or so
>>to download the product, but for a few dollars more you can get a new
>>copy six months from now if your system crashes and you lose your
>>backup.
>
>It seems that it is a "download fee" that is non-optional over and 
>above the purchase price. The alternative is to buy a disc at 
>21.26NZD. !!
>
>It is a con and was a hidden charge that appeared on the shopping 
>cart checkout screen.
>
>Cheers
>Alan
>
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"Next Pgf Tag" instruction not working

[Meyer, Bernard]

Hello, Framers. Hoping you can help me diagnose an anomaly:
(I am using FM 8.0p273 on Windows XP Pro, vers. 2002, Service Pack 3.)
==
Our FM templates define paragraph tags named "FigureNumber" and "FigureTitle".
In the "FigureNumber" definition, the "Next Pgf Tag" box is checked and the 
specified following tag is "FigureTitle"
So, if I create a "FigureNumber" paragraph and hit , the next paragraph 
SHOULD automatically be a "FigureTitle".
However, what actually happens is that this just creates a second 
"FigureNumber" paragraph. Of course I can manually change it to what I 
intended, but I should not have to do this.
I had my colleagues try the same thing, both with existing files on their 
systems and with fresh copies of the template file. One person did not have 
this effect, the other two who responded had the same effect as I did.
I am completely nonplussed on this one.

Bernie Meyer
Concept Publications, Inc.

Re: Off topic - Parallels price loading

[Alan T Litchfield]

hahaha

Dang, excuse me while I wipe the egg off my face.

The little cross on the right was not that obvious, especially since I  
normally see remove links on the left, and written in text.


Alan

PS So to redress the issue, Parallels are a wonderful company and  
their products are simply the bestest :P


On 18/08/2010, at 11:28 AM, Kevin Farwell wrote:


Hello,

I'm not about to defend Parallels, as I have my own troubles with  
them, but I downloaded a version a few weeks ago and did not pay the  
download service fee. I just looked at the web site and found I  
could buy another copy, not that I would, without the service. Just  
click the "Remove" button on the right.


Kevin



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Re: Off topic - Parallels price loading

[Kevin Farwell]

Hello,

I'm not about to defend Parallels, as I have my own troubles with 
them, but I downloaded a version a few weeks ago and did not pay the 
download service fee. I just looked at the web site and found I could 
buy another copy, not that I would, without the service. Just click 
the "Remove" button on the right.


Kevin

At 11:00 AM +1200 8/18/10, Alan T Litchfield wrote:

On 18/08/2010, at 10:51 AM, Owen, Clint wrote:


Alan,

I am not defending Apple, because I have not dealt with them, but this
could be a matter of terminology.


Actually, nothing to do with Apple. And I have never had this 
problem with them.


This is these guys: http://www.parallels.com/



For some software that I have bought in the past, an "extended download
service" would let you download a fresh copy of your purchase for an
extended length of time. So, the standard price gives you 30 days or so
to download the product, but for a few dollars more you can get a new
copy six months from now if your system crashes and you lose your
backup.


It seems that it is a "download fee" that is non-optional over and 
above the purchase price. The alternative is to buy a disc at 
21.26NZD. !!


It is a con and was a hidden charge that appeared on the shopping 
cart checkout screen.


Cheers
Alan

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Re: Off topic - Parallels price loading

[Alan T Litchfield]

On 18/08/2010, at 10:51 AM, Owen, Clint wrote:


Alan,

I am not defending Apple, because I have not dealt with them, but this
could be a matter of terminology.


Actually, nothing to do with Apple. And I have never had this problem  
with them.


This is these guys: http://www.parallels.com/



For some software that I have bought in the past, an "extended  
download

service" would let you download a fresh copy of your purchase for an
extended length of time. So, the standard price gives you 30 days or  
so

to download the product, but for a few dollars more you can get a new
copy six months from now if your system crashes and you lose your
backup.


It seems that it is a "download fee" that is non-optional over and  
above the purchase price. The alternative is to buy a disc at  
21.26NZD. !!


It is a con and was a hidden charge that appeared on the shopping cart  
checkout screen.


Cheers
Alan

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RE: Off topic - Parallels price loading

[Owen, Clint]

Alan,

I am not defending Apple, because I have not dealt with them, but this
could be a matter of terminology.

For some software that I have bought in the past, an "extended download
service" would let you download a fresh copy of your purchase for an
extended length of time. So, the standard price gives you 30 days or so
to download the product, but for a few dollars more you can get a new
copy six months from now if your system crashes and you lose your
backup.

Clint


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Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 3:40 PM
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Subject: Re: Off topic - Parallels price loading

Rats. Forgot about image stripping.

Shopping Cart Checkout snaphot

Parallels Desktop 5  for Mac Upgrade, EN. Qty
1. Delivery: electronic71.11 NZD Extended
Download Service Qty
1.9.94
NZD

Total


...81.05
  NZD

No prior mention of price loading, by the way.

On 18/08/2010, at 10:32 AM, Alan T Litchfield wrote:

> Yes, this is off topic.
>
> I am posting here because I know there are number of other users who 
> have installed and use Parallels. Has anyone ever encountered this 
> before? All I can say it must a heck of a lot to send those 
> electronics all the way across the Pacific.
>
>
>
>
> I can see no practical reason for charging a premium for downloading 
> from outside the US. Hidden charges are very annoying and a con.
>
> Alan
>
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Re: Off topic - Parallels price loading

[Alan T Litchfield]

On 18/08/2010, at 10:45 AM, Scott Prentice wrote:


Hi Alan...

I haven't experienced this, so can't help in that area .. but unless  
you're wedded to Parallels, I've been using VMWare Fusion for some  
time now with many versions of FM and Windows OSes with no problems.  
I'd compare the pricing to see if they have a similar policy/pricing.


Could be a possibility. There are others I work with that use it on  
various platforms. I am not that wedded to it apart from the fact that  
it's there. Pretty stink service really. :(


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Off topic - Parallels price loading

[Owen, Clint]

Alan,

I am not defending Apple, because I have not dealt with them, but this
could be a matter of terminology.

For some software that I have bought in the past, an "extended download
service" would let you download a fresh copy of your purchase for an
extended length of time. So, the standard price gives you 30 days or so
to download the product, but for a few dollars more you can get a new
copy six months from now if your system crashes and you lose your
backup.

Clint


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425 743 8674 | Fax: +1 425 743 8113

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Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 3:40 PM
To: Alan T Litchfield
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Subject: Re: Off topic - Parallels price loading

Rats. Forgot about image stripping.

Shopping Cart Checkout snaphot

Parallels Desktop 5  for Mac Upgrade, EN. Qty
1. Delivery: electronic71.11 NZD Extended
Download Service Qty
1.9.94
NZD

Total


...81.05
  NZD

No prior mention of price loading, by the way.

On 18/08/2010, at 10:32 AM, Alan T Litchfield wrote:

> Yes, this is off topic.
>
> I am posting here because I know there are number of other users who 
> have installed and use Parallels. Has anyone ever encountered this 
> before? All I can say it must a heck of a lot to send those 
> electronics all the way across the Pacific.
>
>
>
>
> I can see no practical reason for charging a premium for downloading 
> from outside the US. Hidden charges are very annoying and a con.
>
> Alan
>
> --
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> New Zealand
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Re: Off topic - Parallels price loading

[Scott Prentice]

Hi Alan...

I haven't experienced this, so can't help in that area .. but unless 
you're wedded to Parallels, I've been using VMWare Fusion for some time 
now with many versions of FM and Windows OSes with no problems. I'd 
compare the pricing to see if they have a similar policy/pricing.


Cheers,

...scott


Alan T Litchfield wrote:

Yes, this is off topic.

I am posting here because I know there are number of other users who 
have installed and use Parallels. Has anyone ever encountered this 
before? All I can say it must a heck of a lot to send those 
electronics all the way across the Pacific.



I can see no practical reason for charging a premium for downloading 
from outside the US. Hidden charges are very annoying and a con.


Alan

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[Scott Prentice]

Hi Alan...

I haven't experienced this, so can't help in that area .. but unless 
you're wedded to Parallels, I've been using VMWare Fusion for some time 
now with many versions of FM and Windows OSes with no problems. I'd 
compare the pricing to see if they have a similar policy/pricing.

Cheers,

...scott


Alan T Litchfield wrote:
> Yes, this is off topic.
>
> I am posting here because I know there are number of other users who 
> have installed and use Parallels. Has anyone ever encountered this 
> before? All I can say it must a heck of a lot to send those 
> electronics all the way across the Pacific.
>
>
> I can see no practical reason for charging a premium for downloading 
> from outside the US. Hidden charges are very annoying and a con.
>
> Alan
>
> -- 
> Alan T Litchfield
> AlphaByte
> PO Box 141, Auckland, 1140
> New Zealand
> http://www.alphabyte.co.nz
> http://www.alphabyte.co.nz/beatrice
>
>   

Re: Off topic - Parallels price loading

[Alan T Litchfield]

Rats. Forgot about image stripping.

Shopping Cart Checkout snaphot

Parallels Desktop 5  for Mac Upgrade, EN. Qty  
1. Delivery: electronic71.11 NZD
Extended Download  
Service Qty  
1.9.94  
NZD


Total 
...81.05 
 NZD


No prior mention of price loading, by the way.

On 18/08/2010, at 10:32 AM, Alan T Litchfield wrote:


Yes, this is off topic.

I am posting here because I know there are number of other users who  
have installed and use Parallels. Has anyone ever encountered this  
before? All I can say it must a heck of a lot to send those  
electronics all the way across the Pacific.





I can see no practical reason for charging a premium for downloading  
from outside the US. Hidden charges are very annoying and a con.


Alan

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Re: Framemaker 7 - need bookmarks and cropmarks in PDF

[Alan T Litchfield]

On 18/08/2010, at 10:04 AM, Fred Ridder wrote:



Newbie Christine asked:


First-timer here to this site...why cannot I not generate a pdf  
with both bookmarks and cropmarks?


That's by design. It's "horses for courses".
Crop marks are only useful/relevant when you're preparing camera- 
ready copy and the final deliverable with be hard copy. Bookmarks  
are only useable when you're preparing an electronic deliverable  
(the PDF itself) that will be used interactively. If you're  
preparing camera-ready copy, hyperlinks and interactive features are  
useless and just get in the way in the printing process. When you're  
delivering an interactive document, it's really annoying for users  
to see a large page area with a small text area and crop marks,  
since that forces them to zoom in to make the text easier to read  
and then live have to scroll over large amounts of whitespace in the  
top and bottom page margins. If you select "Generate Acrobat  
Data" (i.e. enable interactive features), FrameMaker automatically  
disables crop marks, and vice versa. If you're generating PDFs for  
two disparate purposes, you should be generating two separate,  
optimized PDFs.

-Fred Ridder
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Not strictly true however. I have done several projects over the past  
few years where the page size was smaller than A4 and the client  
wanted to print out hard copies for copy checkers to write on but  
needed to be aware of the page margins. They also wanted to check  
hyperlinks, bookmarks, etc.


I use 7.1 for these.

What I do is set the crop marks when I print to PS, and bookmarks are  
there too. Run the PS through Distiller and generate the PDF. When you  
open the PDF you will not see the crop marks but they are there  
between the art box and crop box. So to display the crop marks I open  
the PDF in Acrobat and change the settings in Advanced > Print  
Production > Crop Pages. This is Acrobat 9.3.3.


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Off topic - Parallels price loading

[Alan T Litchfield]

Yes, this is off topic.

I am posting here because I know there are number of other users who  
have installed and use Parallels. Has anyone ever encountered this  
before? All I can say it must a heck of a lot to send those  
electronics all the way across the Pacific.






I can see no practical reason for charging a premium for downloading  
from outside the US. Hidden charges are very annoying and a con.


Alan

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RE: Framemaker 7 - need bookmarks and cropmarks in PDF

[Fred Ridder]

Newbie Christine asked:
 

> First-timer here to this site...why cannot I not generate a pdf with both 
> bookmarks and cropmarks?

That's by design. It's "horses for courses".
Crop marks are only useful/relevant when you're preparing camera-ready copy and 
the final deliverable with be hard copy. Bookmarks are only useable when you're 
preparing an electronic deliverable (the PDF itself) that will be used 
interactively. If you're preparing camera-ready copy, hyperlinks and 
interactive features are useless and just get in the way in the printing 
process. When you're delivering an interactive document, it's really annoying 
for users to see a large page area with a small text area and crop marks, since 
that forces them to zoom in to make the text easier to read and then live have 
to scroll over large amounts of whitespace in the top and bottom page margins. 
If you select "Generate Acrobat Data" (i.e. enable interactive features), 
FrameMaker automatically disables crop marks, and vice versa. If you're 
generating PDFs for two disparate purposes, you should be generating two 
separate, optimized PDFs.
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Fwd: Framemaker 7 - need bookmarks and cropmarks in PDF

[Alan T Litchfield]

This is forwarded to include the mailing list.

Begin forwarded message:


Thanks Alan!

Sorry, yes, more info. Windows. FM 7.2.

All the bookmarks are set up along with the levels, etc. I can  
generate the bookmarks by themselves in a PDF. But as soon as I try  
to generate a pdf with both the bookmarks and the Tombo cropmarks, I  
only see the Tombo cropmarks in the pdf.


I've played with the paper sizes and I originally had 8.5 x 11 paper  
size (page size in the FM document was 7.5 x 8 or something like  
that).


I continued to google this issue and came across a comment that  
someone said to keep making the paper size larger, such as tabloid  
paper size, and then generate the pdf and run through distiller.  
(When I do that I see my bookmarks but not the cropmarks.)


Then open up the pdf in Acrobat and then crop the pages to the  
desired page size. And sure enough, as soon as I did that, I saw the  
cropmarks.


This seems like a very odd process to get the desired results. The  
client whose files these are only has FM version 7.1. We have 7.2.  
Client is on vacation so they can't answer our questions on how they  
generate their pdfs. I'm wondering if we are missing an update? Or  
we have installed an update that the client doesn't have?


Thanks!
Christine


-Original Message-
From: Alan T Litchfield [mailto:a...@alphabyte.co.nz]
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 4:39 PM
To: Christine Snow
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Framemaker 7 - need bookmarks and cropmarks in PDF

Christine,

Cannot answer your question without further information.

Platform, what you did, etc.

Assume you have read the help on how to generate pdf files and  
bookmarks for example, this text is copied from the help:


To set bookmarks:

   1. In the PDF Setup dialog box, choose Bookmarks from the pop-up  
menu, or click the Bookmarks tab (Windows/UNIX).

   2. Select Generate PDF Bookmarks.
   3. To specify at which level bookmarks appear expanded in the  
exported PDF, select an option from the Bookmarks Expanded through  
Level pop-up menu. You can type a value, such as 2, to specify that  
you only want the top two levels expanded.
   4. To indicate which paragraphs should be converted to PDF  
bookmarks, move paragraph tags between scroll lists. The paragraphs  
in the Include Paragraphs scroll list will have bookmarks in the PDF  
file. To move a tag between scroll lists, select the tag and click  
an arrow or double-click the tag. To move all the tags from one  
scroll list to the other, Shift-click an arrow. To omit bookmarks,  
deselect Generate PDF Bookmarks.
   5. To change bookmark levels for the included paragraphs, select  
a paragraph tag and click a Bookmark Level arrow. To change the  
level of all items, Shift-click a Bookmark Level arrow. If the  
indent for a tag exceeds six levels, n> precedes the paragraph tag,  
where n is the indentation level of the paragraph tag.
   6. To include paragraph tags along with the paragraph text in the  
bookmarks, select Include Paragraph Tags in Bookmark Text. Use this  
option to check the assigned levels of bookmarks in a draft of the  
PDF file. (Deselect this option when you print the final draft of the

document.)
   7. Set up article threading by doing one of the following:
  * To have the reading order of each article follow the  
same order that the insertion point moves, select Articles and  
choose Thread by Column from the pop-up menu. This setting is  
usually the most appropriate in multicolumn formats.
  * To have the reading order of each article go from text  
frame to text frame, select Articles and choose Thread by Text Frame  
from the pop-up menu. This setting is usually the most appropriate  
in single-column formats.

  * To create no article threads, deselect Articles.

Alan

On 18/08/2010, at 6:02 AM, Christine Snow wrote:


Hello all,

First-timer  here to this site...why cannot I not generate a pdf with
both bookmarks and cropmarks?

Thanks!

Christine




--
Alan T Litchfield
AlphaByte
PO Box 141, Auckland, 1140
New Zealand
http://www.alphabyte.co.nz
http://www.alphabyte.co.nz/beatrice



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Re: Framemaker 7 - need bookmarks and cropmarks in PDF

[Alan T Litchfield]

Christine,

Cannot answer your question without further information.

Platform, what you did, etc.

Assume you have read the help on how to generate pdf files and  
bookmarks for example, this text is copied from the help:


To set bookmarks:

   1. In the PDF Setup dialog box, choose Bookmarks from the pop-up  
menu, or click the Bookmarks tab (Windows/UNIX).

   2. Select Generate PDF Bookmarks.
   3. To specify at which level bookmarks appear expanded in the  
exported PDF, select an option from the Bookmarks Expanded through  
Level pop-up menu. You can type a value, such as 2, to specify that  
you only want the top two levels expanded.
   4. To indicate which paragraphs should be converted to PDF  
bookmarks, move paragraph tags between scroll lists. The paragraphs in  
the Include Paragraphs scroll list will have bookmarks in the PDF  
file. To move a tag between scroll lists, select the tag and click an  
arrow or double-click the tag. To move all the tags from one scroll  
list to the other, Shift-click an arrow. To omit bookmarks, deselect  
Generate PDF Bookmarks.
   5. To change bookmark levels for the included paragraphs, select a  
paragraph tag and click a Bookmark Level arrow. To change the level of  
all items, Shift-click a Bookmark Level arrow. If the indent for a tag  
exceeds six levels, n> precedes the paragraph tag, where n is the  
indentation level of the paragraph tag.
   6. To include paragraph tags along with the paragraph text in the  
bookmarks, select Include Paragraph Tags in Bookmark Text. Use this  
option to check the assigned levels of bookmarks in a draft of the PDF  
file. (Deselect this option when you print the final draft of the  
document.)

   7. Set up article threading by doing one of the following:
  * To have the reading order of each article follow the same  
order that the insertion point moves, select Articles and choose  
Thread by Column from the pop-up menu. This setting is usually the  
most appropriate in multicolumn formats.
  * To have the reading order of each article go from text  
frame to text frame, select Articles and choose Thread by Text Frame  
from the pop-up menu. This setting is usually the most appropriate in  
single-column formats.

  * To create no article threads, deselect Articles.

Alan

On 18/08/2010, at 6:02 AM, Christine Snow wrote:


Hello all,

First-timer  here to this site...why cannot I not generate a pdf  
with both bookmarks and cropmarks?


Thanks!

Christine




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Alan T Litchfield
AlphaByte
PO Box 141, Auckland, 1140
New Zealand
http://www.alphabyte.co.nz
http://www.alphabyte.co.nz/beatrice

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Framemaker 7 - need bookmarks and cropmarks in PDF

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 Hello all,

First-timer  here to this site...why cannot I not generate a pdf with both 
bookmarks and cropmarks?

Thanks!

Christine





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RE: Footnote color

[Roger Shuttleworth]

Hello Lief

The issue is, though, that you can't access the footnote number alone, since 
it's not defined in the footnote paragraph format. Any changes to the paragraph 
format are applied to the whole footnote, not just the number. As far as I can 
see, there is no way to format the number differently from the text. This 
appears to be so whether you are using structured or unstructured documents. 
I'd be happy to be proved wrong...

Regards,
Roger

Roger Shuttleworth
Technical Documentation
AV-BASE Systems Inc.
1000 Air Ontario Drive, Suite 200
London, Ontario
N5V 3S4
Tel. 519 691-0919 ext. 330
  _  

From: Lief Erickson [mailto:l...@networkinstruments.com]
To: Pat Christenson [mailto:pxen...@comcast.net], Frame Users 
[mailto:fram...@lists.frameusers.com]
Sent: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 09:50:52 -0400
Subject: RE: Footnote color

Do you want the color applied universally to all footnotes through a template 
or do you want each footnote to have its own color?
  
  To apply color to all footnotes, simply change the color of your Footnote tag 
in your template. You could also apply color on a one-off basis, but that 
creates paragraph overrides -- something most FrameMaker users usually want to 
avoid.
  
  To apply color to the Footnote number, I think you'll need to create a 
Character tag that is the color that you want and apply that Character tag to 
the number.
  
  -Lief
  
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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Pat Christenson
  Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 11:32 PM
  To: Frame Users
  Subject: Footnote color
  
  Hi -
  
  Is there a way to automatically apply a color to a footnote number,  
  both in text and in the footnote?
  
  Thanks.
  
  Pat
  
  
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Framemaker 7 - need bookmarks and cropmarks in PDF

[Christine Snow]

 Hello all,

First-timer  here to this site...why cannot I not generate a pdf with both 
bookmarks and cropmarks?

Thanks!

Christine

Footnote color

[Roger Shuttleworth]

Hello Lief

The issue is, though, that you can't access the footnote number alone, since 
it's not defined in the footnote paragraph format. Any changes to the paragraph 
format are applied to the whole footnote, not just the number. As far as I can 
see, there is no way to format the number differently from the text. This 
appears to be so whether you are using structured or unstructured documents. 
I'd be happy to be proved wrong...

Regards,
Roger

Roger Shuttleworth
Technical Documentation
AV-BASE Systems Inc.
1000 Air Ontario Drive, Suite 200
London, Ontario
N5V 3S4
Tel. 519 691-0919 ext. 330
  _  

From: Lief Erickson [mailto:l...@networkinstruments.com]
To: Pat Christenson [mailto:pxenson at comcast.net], Frame Users 
[mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com]
Sent: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 09:50:52 -0400
Subject: RE: Footnote color

Do you want the color applied universally to all footnotes through a template 
or do you want each footnote to have its own color?

  To apply color to all footnotes, simply change the color of your Footnote tag 
in your template. You could also apply color on a one-off basis, but that 
creates paragraph overrides -- something most FrameMaker users usually want to 
avoid.

  To apply color to the Footnote number, I think you'll need to create a 
Character tag that is the color that you want and apply that Character tag to 
the number.

  -Lief

  -Original Message-
  From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at 
lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Pat Christenson
  Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 11:32 PM
  To: Frame Users
  Subject: Footnote color

  Hi -

  Is there a way to automatically apply a color to a footnote number,  
  both in text and in the footnote?

  Thanks.

  Pat

  
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Footnote color

[Lief Erickson]

Ah, that wasn't clear to me that he wanted just the number in the footnote. I 
thought he wanted the entire footnote and the number in the text.

Hmmm. Yeah, I don't know how you'd color just the number in the footnote 
itself, unless you want a hack way to do it.

I could imagine that you could make the default Footnote paragraph tag the 
color that you want, then use a Character tag (called Black that is set to 
As-Is except for the color) to change the paragraph color back to black. Be 
sure there is a space at the end of your footnote that you do not select and 
include when applying your Character tag though.

Like I said, it's a bit of a hack, but does get you a colored number and black 
text in your footnotes.

-Lief

From: Roger Shuttleworth [mailto:rshuttlewo...@avbasesystems.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 9:01 AM
To: Lief Erickson; Pat Christenson; Frame Users
Subject: RE: Footnote color

Hello Lief

The issue is, though, that you can't access the footnote number alone, since 
it's not defined in the footnote paragraph format. Any changes to the paragraph 
format are applied to the whole footnote, not just the number. As far as I can 
see, there is no way to format the number differently from the text. This 
appears to be so whether you are using structured or unstructured documents. 
I'd be happy to be proved wrong...

Regards,
Roger

Roger Shuttleworth
Technical Documentation
AV-BASE Systems Inc.
1000 Air Ontario Drive, Suite 200
London, Ontario
N5V 3S4
Tel. 519 691-0919 ext. 330

From: Lief Erickson [mailto:l...@networkinstruments.com]
To: Pat Christenson [mailto:pxenson at comcast.net], Frame Users 
[mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com]
Sent: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 09:50:52 -0400
Subject: RE: Footnote color

Do you want the color applied universally to all footnotes through a template 
or do you want each footnote to have its own color?

To apply color to all footnotes, simply change the color of your Footnote tag 
in your template. You could also apply color on a one-off basis, but that 
creates paragraph overrides -- something most FrameMaker users usually want to 
avoid.

To apply color to the Footnote number, I think you'll need to create a 
Character tag that is the color that you want and apply that Character tag to 
the number.

-Lief

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at 
lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of 
Pat Christenson
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 11:32 PM
To: Frame Users
Subject: Footnote color

Hi -

Is there a way to automatically apply a color to a footnote number,
both in text and in the footnote?

Thanks.

Pat



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Footnote color

[Lief Erickson]

Do you want the color applied universally to all footnotes through a template 
or do you want each footnote to have its own color?

To apply color to all footnotes, simply change the color of your Footnote tag 
in your template. You could also apply color on a one-off basis, but that 
creates paragraph overrides -- something most FrameMaker users usually want to 
avoid.

To apply color to the Footnote number, I think you'll need to create a 
Character tag that is the color that you want and apply that Character tag to 
the number.

-Lief

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Pat Christenson
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 11:32 PM
To: Frame Users
Subject: Footnote color

Hi -

Is there a way to automatically apply a color to a footnote number,  
both in text and in the footnote?

Thanks.

Pat


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RE: Footnote color

[Lief Erickson]

Ah, that wasn't clear to me that he wanted just the number in the footnote. I 
thought he wanted the entire footnote and the number in the text.

Hmmm. Yeah, I don't know how you'd color just the number in the footnote 
itself, unless you want a hack way to do it.

I could imagine that you could make the default Footnote paragraph tag the 
color that you want, then use a Character tag (called Black that is set to 
As-Is except for the color) to change the paragraph color back to black. Be 
sure there is a space at the end of your footnote that you do not select and 
include when applying your Character tag though.

Like I said, it's a bit of a hack, but does get you a colored number and black 
text in your footnotes.

-Lief

From: Roger Shuttleworth [mailto:rshuttlewo...@avbasesystems.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 9:01 AM
To: Lief Erickson; Pat Christenson; Frame Users
Subject: RE: Footnote color

Hello Lief

The issue is, though, that you can't access the footnote number alone, since 
it's not defined in the footnote paragraph format. Any changes to the paragraph 
format are applied to the whole footnote, not just the number. As far as I can 
see, there is no way to format the number differently from the text. This 
appears to be so whether you are using structured or unstructured documents. 
I'd be happy to be proved wrong...

Regards,
Roger

Roger Shuttleworth
Technical Documentation
AV-BASE Systems Inc.
1000 Air Ontario Drive, Suite 200
London, Ontario
N5V 3S4
Tel. 519 691-0919 ext. 330

From: Lief Erickson [mailto:l...@networkinstruments.com]
To: Pat Christenson [mailto:pxen...@comcast.net], Frame Users 
[mailto:fram...@lists.frameusers.com]
Sent: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 09:50:52 -0400
Subject: RE: Footnote color

Do you want the color applied universally to all footnotes through a template 
or do you want each footnote to have its own color?

To apply color to all footnotes, simply change the color of your Footnote tag 
in your template. You could also apply color on a one-off basis, but that 
creates paragraph overrides -- something most FrameMaker users usually want to 
avoid.

To apply color to the Footnote number, I think you'll need to create a 
Character tag that is the color that you want and apply that Character tag to 
the number.

-Lief

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From: 
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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com]
 On Behalf Of Pat Christenson
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 11:32 PM
To: Frame Users
Subject: Footnote color

Hi -

Is there a way to automatically apply a color to a footnote number,
both in text and in the footnote?

Thanks.

Pat



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RE: Footnote color

[Lief Erickson]

Do you want the color applied universally to all footnotes through a template 
or do you want each footnote to have its own color?

To apply color to all footnotes, simply change the color of your Footnote tag 
in your template. You could also apply color on a one-off basis, but that 
creates paragraph overrides -- something most FrameMaker users usually want to 
avoid.

To apply color to the Footnote number, I think you'll need to create a 
Character tag that is the color that you want and apply that Character tag to 
the number.

-Lief

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Pat Christenson
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 11:32 PM
To: Frame Users
Subject: Footnote color

Hi -

Is there a way to automatically apply a color to a footnote number,  
both in text and in the footnote?

Thanks.

Pat


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