RE: FrameMaker 10 Officially Demonstrated At tekom Conference

2010-11-10 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 15:24 -0500 9/11/10, Rick Quatro wrote:

The way the feature is implemented, you wouldn't get the results you did in
your book. It is basically like highlighting with no control over
background height or offsets, etc.

Bah.

As far as the book, I hope you used some kind of automation to get your
results.

Not in the sense that you mean it, Rick. The brief was to give the authors a 
writing environment that allowed them to reproduce as closely as possible to 
appearance of the final book. In the end we did that with a combination of 
structured FrameMaker and SiliconPrairies' 'Autotext' plug-in. Building it all 
was a major undertaking, as the design had been created , probably in Quark, by 
someone with no knowledge of FrameMaker and its (few) limitations.

-- 
Steve
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RE: FrameMaker 10 Officially Demonstrated At tekom Conference

2010-11-10 Thread Reng, Dr. Winfried
Hi Stuart,

No. RJ Jacquez focused on new features and not on bugs.
Maybe you should ask whether you can join the beta program. 
Then you can check this yourself. And you can help make the 
next FrameMaker version more stable.

However, Michael Müller-Hillebrand told me that he wrote
an event script which refreshes the screen after each key
press (only when there is a paragraph with space below of
e.g. -20 pt and the next paragraph has space above of -20 pt;
this is sometimes necessary to align a symbol to the following
text; without this refresh the text would be invisible).

Best regards

Winfried

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 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of 
 Stuart Rogers
 Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 6:12 PM
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Re: FrameMaker 10 Officially Demonstrated At tekom Conference
 
 On 09/11/2010 2:29 AM, Reng, Dr. Winfried wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I attended this presentation as well. RJ Jacquez said that 
 he presented
  in public. No-one signed a non-disclosure agreement. 
 Therefore all are
  allowed to discuss the features in public.
 
 
 Any hint of automatic screen refresh (i.e., no need for 
 Ctrl-L) at long, 
 long, last?
 
 
 -- 
 Stuart Rogers
 Technical Communicator
 Phoenix Geophysics Limited
 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
 Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
 +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325
 
 http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com
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OTT: Excel

2010-11-10 Thread Steve Rickaby
Does anyone know of a discussion group anywhere approaching the quality of 
FrameUsers, for Excel?
-- 
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Annoying FM quirk

2010-11-10 Thread Spectrum Writing
All,

 

I have a paragraph tag named PageBreak that is designed to do what the name
implies - put in a PageBreak at specific location that I select. The tag has
a 750.00 pt Below Pfg characteristic and I have also applied a bright
Fuschia color so that I can differentiate the pilcrow for the tag from that
of a simple Body tag. When I apply the tag, the pilcrow is displayed in the
Fuschia color, but after that, boom, it's a crapshoot. Sometimes the pilcrow
holds the color and other times, it doesn't and I have to go back manually
reapply the tag. It's very annoying as when proof-reading/editing my
documents, I need to confirm that the tag is indeed a PageBreak tag and not
a Body tag. (If I were just printing the manuals, then it wouldn't be an
issue, but I am single-sourcing these docs. and using ePublisher to produce
online help, so the issue becomes critical for this.)

 

Has anyone experienced this or something similar at all? Why on earth won't
the pilcrow hold the color? 

 

FWIW, I am using FM9 (all patched and current) on a Win7 64-bit system.

 

TIA,

 

TVB

 

Tammy Van Boening

Owner/Principal

Spectrum Writing, LLC

www.spectrumwritingllc.com

i...@spectrumwritingllc.com

 

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Re: Annoying FM quirk

2010-11-10 Thread Baruch Brodersen
Try setting the font size 2 pt., retain the distinctive font colroing,
use autonumbering, and add 50 or so em-spaces in the the autonumber
text field. This will result in a greeked non-printing line a couple
inches long.
To add an em space, use \sm.

Baruch Brodersen

On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 9:19 PM, Spectrum Writing
i...@spectrumwritingllc.com wrote:
 All,



 I have a paragraph tag named PageBreak that is designed to do what the name
 implies - put in a PageBreak at specific location that I select. The tag has
 a 750.00 pt Below Pfg characteristic and I have also applied a bright
 Fuschia color so that I can differentiate the pilcrow for the tag from that
 of a simple Body tag. When I apply the tag, the pilcrow is displayed in the
 Fuschia color, but after that, boom, it's a crapshoot. Sometimes the pilcrow
 holds the color and other times, it doesn't and I have to go back manually
 reapply the tag. It's very annoying as when proof-reading/editing my
 documents, I need to confirm that the tag is indeed a PageBreak tag and not
 a Body tag. (If I were just printing the manuals, then it wouldn't be an
 issue, but I am single-sourcing these docs. and using ePublisher to produce
 online help, so the issue becomes critical for this.)



 Has anyone experienced this or something similar at all? Why on earth won't
 the pilcrow hold the color?



 FWIW, I am using FM9 (all patched and current) on a Win7 64-bit system.



 TIA,



 TVB



 Tammy Van Boening

 Owner/Principal

 Spectrum Writing, LLC

 www.spectrumwritingllc.com

 i...@spectrumwritingllc.com



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RE: Annoying FM quirk

2010-11-10 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Tammy,

You don't mention the font size of the PageBreak tag, but one thing you
could do is apply some kind of autonumber (perhaps a bullet) to the format
for when you are authoring/editing. Then, before you print, etc., you could
remove the autonumber from the format. It's not perfect, but at least you
can be sure that you see it as you page through the document.

To answer your question, though, I do not know why the color is not holding.
You could try a different color and see if it holds better than the color
you are using now.

Rick

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-659-8267
r...@frameexpert.com

*** Frame Automation blog at http://frameautomation.com


All,

 

I have a paragraph tag named PageBreak that is designed to do what the name
implies - put in a PageBreak at specific location that I select. The tag has
a 750.00 pt Below Pfg characteristic and I have also applied a bright
Fuschia color so that I can differentiate the pilcrow for the tag from that
of a simple Body tag. When I apply the tag, the pilcrow is displayed in the
Fuschia color, but after that, boom, it's a crapshoot. Sometimes the pilcrow
holds the color and other times, it doesn't and I have to go back manually
reapply the tag. It's very annoying as when proof-reading/editing my
documents, I need to confirm that the tag is indeed a PageBreak tag and not
a Body tag. (If I were just printing the manuals, then it wouldn't be an
issue, but I am single-sourcing these docs. and using ePublisher to produce
online help, so the issue becomes critical for this.)

 

Has anyone experienced this or something similar at all? Why on earth won't
the pilcrow hold the color? 

 

FWIW, I am using FM9 (all patched and current) on a Win7 64-bit system.

 

TIA,

 

TVB

 

Tammy Van Boening

Owner/Principal

Spectrum Writing, LLC

www.spectrumwritingllc.com

i...@spectrumwritingllc.com


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RE: Annoying FM quirk

2010-11-10 Thread David Spreadbury
I see the same, or very similar, behavior running 7.2.

Sometimes the pilcrow for a tag changes from 10pt to about 14pt Bold. 
Reapplying the tag fixes the problem. This doesn't appear to have any affect on 
generated PDFs. It seems to be a display issue within Frame. I am using 
Structured Frame, so a look at the Structure View displays that a NewPage 
element has been inserted.

It could be related to the age old display problem in Frame. There are times 
that entire paragraphs of test disappear behind an illustration. Pressing 
Ctrl+L (Refresh) puts everything back the way it is supposed to be. This has 
been a nuisance bug for years. Yours may be related. I believe Shlomo maintains 
a known buglist that should describe the problem better.

BTW, I have a similar tag, as your PageBreak, called NewPage. I can insert it 
anywhere to force an object (Figure, Table, step, whatever) to start on the 
next page, essentially inserting a page break. Nothing is displayed on the 
screen because the point size is set to a very small amount, 1 or 2pt.

--- On Wed, 11/10/10, Alison Craig alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com wrote:

From: Alison Craig alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com
Subject: RE: Annoying FM quirk
To: i...@spectrumwritingllc.com i...@spectrumwritingllc.com, 
framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com
Date: Wednesday, November 10, 2010, 1:34 PM


I have exactly the same issue with my PageBreak tag (which is *supposed* to be 
Cyan in colour).

The formatting (900 pt below) holds true but the colour disappears.

If anyone has an answer, I'd love to know.

FYI:
FM 9 Version: 9.0p255
Unstructured
OS: XP Pro with SP3

Alison

Alison Craig, Technical Writer
Ultrasonix Medical Corporation
Tel: (604) 279-8550, ext 127
E-mail: alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com
 
 
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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Spectrum Writing
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 11:19 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Annoying FM quirk

All,

 

I have a paragraph tag named PageBreak that is designed to do what the name
implies - put in a PageBreak at specific location that I select. The tag has
a 750.00 pt Below Pfg characteristic and I have also applied a bright
Fuschia color so that I can differentiate the pilcrow for the tag from that
of a simple Body tag. When I apply the tag, the pilcrow is displayed in the
Fuschia color, but after that, boom, it's a crapshoot. Sometimes the pilcrow
holds the color and other times, it doesn't and I have to go back manually
reapply the tag. It's very annoying as when proof-reading/editing my
documents, I need to confirm that the tag is indeed a PageBreak tag and not
a Body tag. (If I were just printing the manuals, then it wouldn't be an
issue, but I am single-sourcing these docs. and using ePublisher to produce
online help, so the issue becomes critical for this.)

 

Has anyone experienced this or something similar at all? Why on earth won't
the pilcrow hold the color? 

 

FWIW, I am using FM9 (all patched and current) on a Win7 64-bit system.

 

TIA,

 

TVB

 

Tammy Van Boening

Owner/Principal

Spectrum Writing, LLC

www.spectrumwritingllc.com

i...@spectrumwritingllc.com
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RE: Annoying FM quirk

2010-11-10 Thread Spectrum Writing
Thanks all, I appreciate the insight and suggestions. I will modify it as
suggested and see if that works.

Thanks again,

TVB

Tammy Van Boening
Owner/Principal
Spectrum Writing, LLC
www.spectrumwritingllc.com
i...@spectrumwritingllc.com


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Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 12:19 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Annoying FM quirk

All,

 

I have a paragraph tag named PageBreak that is designed to do what the name
implies - put in a PageBreak at specific location that I select. The tag has
a 750.00 pt Below Pfg characteristic and I have also applied a bright
Fuschia color so that I can differentiate the pilcrow for the tag from that
of a simple Body tag. When I apply the tag, the pilcrow is displayed in the
Fuschia color, but after that, boom, it's a crapshoot. Sometimes the pilcrow
holds the color and other times, it doesn't and I have to go back manually
reapply the tag. It's very annoying as when proof-reading/editing my
documents, I need to confirm that the tag is indeed a PageBreak tag and not
a Body tag. (If I were just printing the manuals, then it wouldn't be an
issue, but I am single-sourcing these docs. and using ePublisher to produce
online help, so the issue becomes critical for this.)

 

Has anyone experienced this or something similar at all? Why on earth won't
the pilcrow hold the color? 

 

FWIW, I am using FM9 (all patched and current) on a Win7 64-bit system.

 

TIA,

 

TVB

 

Tammy Van Boening

Owner/Principal

Spectrum Writing, LLC

www.spectrumwritingllc.com

i...@spectrumwritingllc.com

 

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Re: Annoying FM quirk

2010-11-10 Thread Shane Taylor
FM tends to treat empty paragraphs differently than those containing 
text. Changing the paragraph style to use a space character as an 
autonumber *might* fool FM into treating the paragraph correctly, but I 
haven't tested this.


Shane Taylor Technical Writer
WebAssign 919.829.8181 x147


On 11/10/10 2:19 PM, Spectrum Writing wrote:

All,



I have a paragraph tag named PageBreak that is designed to do what the name
implies - put in a PageBreak at specific location that I select. The tag has
a 750.00 pt Below Pfg characteristic and I have also applied a bright
Fuschia color so that I can differentiate the pilcrow for the tag from that
of a simple Body tag. When I apply the tag, the pilcrow is displayed in the
Fuschia color, but after that, boom, it's a crapshoot. Sometimes the pilcrow
holds the color and other times, it doesn't and I have to go back manually
reapply the tag. It's very annoying as when proof-reading/editing my
documents, I need to confirm that the tag is indeed a PageBreak tag and not
a Body tag. (If I were just printing the manuals, then it wouldn't be an
issue, but I am single-sourcing these docs. and using ePublisher to produce
online help, so the issue becomes critical for this.)



Has anyone experienced this or something similar at all? Why on earth won't
the pilcrow hold the color?



FWIW, I am using FM9 (all patched and current) on a Win7 64-bit system.



TIA,



TVB



Tammy Van Boening

Owner/Principal

Spectrum Writing, LLC

www.spectrumwritingllc.com

i...@spectrumwritingllc.com



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Re: need to change equation size

2010-11-10 Thread Stuart Rogers

On 09/11/2010 9:14 AM, Bethany Lee wrote:

Hi all,



Using FM9, unstructured



I've searched but I can't find how to change an equation size from
medium to small (or medium to large). I can see how to change the preset
elements (font size, color etc.) of the small, medium and large
equations, but I simply want to go from a medium equation to a small
equation. Any tips?



I don't know of a command in FM to do that, but this works:

Insert a new equation of the size you need; select and copy all the 
content from the original equation and paste it into the new one; delete 
the original.


best,

--
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

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R: FM9/ Framemaker cannot initialize its dictionaries/ solved

2010-11-10 Thread Anton David
 Hello all,

I thought I should share the solution.

Jeff has advised to contact Adobe support where they said I should download
the installer again.
This was not the solution.
So far, I have copied the installer on a DVD and always launched the
installer from the DVD.
By chance, I copied the installer on a local disk, and launched it to
install FM9 on that same disk. This was the solution, i.e. don't launch
installer from a DVD but from the local disk itself.

Wish you a nice day

Anton David

-Messaggio originale-
Da: Anton David [mailto:an...@xlated.com] 
Inviato: giovedì 4 novembre 2010 14.24
A: 'framers@lists.frameusers.com'
Oggetto: R: FM9/ Framemaker cannot initialize its dictionaries

 Hello Jeff,

I tried to rename Linguistics folder. FM9 has created a new one but was
unable to open the application: I get the same error.

Anton

-Messaggio originale-
Da: Jeff Coatsworth [mailto:jeff.coatswo...@jonassoftware.com]
Inviato: giovedì 4 novembre 2010 14.05
A: Anton David; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Oggetto: RE: FM9/ Framemaker cannot initialize its dictionaries

I would rename your Linguistics folder under your \application data\adobe\
folder - FM will recreate it  should start up ok. 

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Subject: FM9/ Framemaker cannot initialize its dictionaries

 
Hello everybody,

I have installed FM9 on XP and Win7 but I get the same error.
When I try to launch it, it displays the message Framemaker cannot
initialize its dictionaries. Either the LanguageDir entry specified in the
initialization file is missing or incorrect, or the files in the LanguageDir
are missing or corrupted
After this error, Framemaker quits.

I have checked the make.ini file and it looks OK. Parameter
LanguageDir=dict.
To be on the safe side, please zip the dict folder of an FM9 installation
and send it to me.
Other suggestions welcome.

Thank you

Anton David
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FrameMaker 10 Officially Demonstrated At tekom Conference

2010-11-10 Thread Reng, Dr. Winfried
Hi Stuart,

No. RJ Jacquez focused on new features and not on bugs.
Maybe you should ask whether you can join the beta program. 
Then you can check this yourself. And you can help make the 
next FrameMaker version more stable.

However, Michael M?ller-Hillebrand told me that he wrote
an event script which refreshes the screen after each key
press (only when there is a paragraph with space below of
e.g. -20 pt and the next paragraph has space above of -20 pt;
this is sometimes necessary to align a symbol to the following
text; without this refresh the text would be invisible).

Best regards

Winfried

> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of 
> Stuart Rogers
> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 6:12 PM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: FrameMaker 10 Officially Demonstrated At tekom Conference
> 
> On 09/11/2010 2:29 AM, Reng, Dr. Winfried wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I attended this presentation as well. RJ Jacquez said that 
> he presented
> > in public. No-one signed a non-disclosure agreement. 
> Therefore all are
> > allowed to discuss the features in public.
> >
> 
> Any hint of automatic screen refresh (i.e., no need for 
> Ctrl-L) at long, 
> long, last?
> 
> 
> -- 
> Stuart Rogers
> Technical Communicator
> Phoenix Geophysics Limited
> 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
> Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
> +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325
> 
> http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com


Annoying FM quirk

2010-11-10 Thread David Spreadbury
I see the same, or very similar, behavior running 7.2.

Sometimes the pilcrow for a tag changes from 10pt to about 14pt Bold. 
Reapplying the tag fixes the problem. This doesn't appear to have any affect on 
generated PDFs. It seems to be a display issue within Frame. I am using 
Structured Frame, so a look at the Structure View displays that a NewPage 
element has been inserted.

It could be related to the age old display problem in Frame. There are times 
that entire paragraphs of test disappear behind an illustration. Pressing 
Ctrl+L (Refresh) puts everything back the way it is supposed to be. This has 
been a nuisance bug for years. Yours may be related. I believe Shlomo maintains 
a known buglist that should describe the problem better.

BTW, I have a similar tag, as your PageBreak, called NewPage. I can insert it 
anywhere to force an object (Figure, Table, step, whatever) to start on the 
next page, essentially inserting a page break. Nothing is displayed on the 
screen because the point size is set to a very small amount, 1 or 2pt.

--- On Wed, 11/10/10, Alison Craig  wrote:

From: Alison Craig 
Subject: RE: Annoying FM quirk
To: "info at spectrumwritingllc.com" , "framers 
at lists.frameusers.com" 
Date: Wednesday, November 10, 2010, 1:34 PM


I have exactly the same issue with my PageBreak tag (which is *supposed* to be 
Cyan in colour).

The formatting (900 pt below) holds true but the colour disappears.

If anyone has an answer, I'd love to know.

FYI:
FM 9 Version: 9.0p255
Unstructured
OS: XP Pro with SP3

Alison

Alison Craig, Technical Writer
Ultrasonix Medical Corporation
Tel: (604) 279-8550, ext 127
E-mail: alison.craig at ultrasonix.com


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From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Spectrum Writing
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 11:19 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Annoying FM quirk

All,



I have a paragraph tag named PageBreak that is designed to do what the name
implies - put in a PageBreak at specific location that I select. The tag has
a 750.00 pt Below Pfg characteristic and I have also applied a bright
Fuschia color so that I can differentiate the pilcrow for the tag from that
of a simple Body tag. When I apply the tag, the pilcrow is displayed in the
Fuschia color, but after that, boom, it's a crapshoot. Sometimes the pilcrow
holds the color and other times, it doesn't and I have to go back manually
reapply the tag. It's very annoying as when proof-reading/editing my
documents, I need to confirm that the tag is indeed a PageBreak tag and not
a Body tag. (If I were just printing the manuals, then it wouldn't be an
issue, but I am single-sourcing these docs. and using ePublisher to produce
online help, so the issue becomes critical for this.)



Has anyone experienced this or something similar at all? Why on earth won't
the pilcrow hold the color? 



FWIW, I am using FM9 (all patched and current) on a Win7 64-bit system.



TIA,



TVB



Tammy Van Boening

Owner/Principal

Spectrum Writing, LLC

www.spectrumwritingllc.com

info at spectrumwritingllc.com


R: FM9/ Framemaker cannot initialize its dictionaries/ solved

2010-11-10 Thread Anton David
 Hello all,

I thought I should share the solution.

Jeff has advised to contact Adobe support where they said I should download
the installer again.
This was not the solution.
So far, I have copied the installer on a DVD and always launched the
installer from the DVD.
By chance, I copied the installer on a local disk, and launched it to
install FM9 on that same disk. This was the solution, i.e. don't launch
installer from a DVD but from the local disk itself.

Wish you a nice day

Anton David

-Messaggio originale-
Da: Anton David [mailto:anton at xlated.com] 
Inviato: gioved? 4 novembre 2010 14.24
A: 'framers at lists.frameusers.com'
Oggetto: R: FM9/ Framemaker cannot initialize its dictionaries

 Hello Jeff,

I tried to rename Linguistics folder. FM9 has created a new one but was
unable to open the application: I get the same error.

Anton

-Messaggio originale-
Da: Jeff Coatsworth [mailto:jeff.coatsworth at jonassoftware.com]
Inviato: gioved? 4 novembre 2010 14.05
A: Anton David; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Oggetto: RE: FM9/ Framemaker cannot initialize its dictionaries

I would rename your Linguistics folder under your \application data\adobe\
folder - FM will recreate it & should start up ok. 

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Anton David
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 4:05 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: FM9/ Framemaker cannot initialize its dictionaries


Hello everybody,

I have installed FM9 on XP and Win7 but I get the same error.
When I try to launch it, it displays the message "Framemaker cannot
initialize its dictionaries. Either the LanguageDir entry specified in the
initialization file is missing or incorrect, or the files in the LanguageDir
are missing or corrupted"
After this error, Framemaker quits.

I have checked the make.ini file and it looks OK. Parameter
LanguageDir=dict.
To be on the safe side, please zip the dict folder of an FM9 installation
and send it to me.
Other suggestions welcome.

Thank you

Anton David
anton at xlated.com
Xlated ltd

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