RE: Registration marks missing

2011-02-08 Thread White, Scott 
Good points from all.

The bottom line though, is anyone on here getting registration marks to appear 
when using save as pdf instead of print to pdf? If so, can I get a step by step 
to see if I am missing something in my settings?

Thanks in advance.

Scott White
Manager - Content and Print Media
Belmont, NC - 704-398-5752
 
 
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From: Jacob Schäffer [mailto:j...@grafikhuset.dk] 
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 5:16 PM
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Subject: SV: Registration marks missing

Scott,

This is likely a PDF /CropBox understanding issue, which mean that
everything might be OK afterall. Unfortunately, the term CropBox might
bring confusion although the concept is clear.

/CropBox defines the *visible* page size in a viewer. CropBox has
effectively NOTHING to do with trimming according to crop marks - although
the name says so.

/MediaBox defines the RAW print paper size, ie. when you print a letter
size on legal or A3 paper, you'll see the cut marks and use a hand-held
knife to cut :-)

/ArtBox is of absolutely no use if you wish a reference to a fixed region
(I've NEVER understood the significant value of the ArtBox EXCEPT when
placing PDF as substitute for EPS -- in which case it's totally meaningless
to apply crop marks (because they will become art))

/TrimBox, which defines the true cutting edges in real-world production
anno 2011.

In many cases ignorant designers and quite a few software packages sets both
TrimBox and CropBox *wrong* and in some cases with reversed meaning --
adding huge to overall confusion.

Personally, I discarded the Save As PDF in Frame 9 a long time ago. I did
that when I discovered it was based on more than 10 years old PostScript
Level 1 code stolen from antediluvian Unix versions of Framemaker.

So, printing to PDF from Frame is *still* ultimately the best bet *IF* and
*ONLY* if you work with RGB bitmap art (TIFF, BMP, JPG) and avoid spot
colours like the plague.

If you use CMYK TIFF, don't go to print at all *unless* you can
*successfully* use Save As PDF *or* persuade your printer to accept
pre-separated PostScript or PDF for print. And -- in this case -- don't say
go without a final proof.

Unfortunately I can't offer a bullet-proof work-around. However, my Publi
PDF software has made quite a difference for SEVERAL Framemaker users
worldwide over the past decade, of which MANY users subscribe to this list.

I have paid enormous amounts to Flexera Software to keep an Activation
Service alive for Publi PDF, and through the past 3 years the residue from
the Publi PDF *single user* edition has been approx the price of one or two
(very, very, very good though) Italian Amarone(s). Anyway, today I'm working
on other very promising projects and really only win nothingness by keeping
the Publi PDF client licensed. Hence, Publi PDF - in the form most users
know it -- is going FREEWARE quite soon (USD 850 per license today).
 
I really think Publi PDF could help you with your catalogue, but you'll have
to experiment with it. As FREEWARE Publi PDF is *effectively* unsupported.

A good place to start is here: http://www.grafikhuset.net/PubliPDF/

You'll find a LOT of information here:
http://www.grafikhuset.net/PubliPDF/techdocs.htm. You MUST read this stuff
if you REALLY want to know what Publi PDF can do for you. I don't answer
questions that is already answered in the techdocs section.

The latest *official* single user edition is revision 1.50.0432. This is
available for download from: http://grafikhuset.net/PubliPDF/download.htm.
This edition works with Distiller 8.X to X and GPL GhostScript 8.70 or later
(that's not true, older versions are supported, but DON'T use them). This
version may work on Vista and Windows 7 if you understand how to disable
UAC. If not, wait for version 1.9.X.

The latest *real* Publi PDF Client is revision 1.9.X. It will be published
to http://grafikhuset.net/PubliPDF/download.htm as soon as I can find the
time for it. This version runs smoothly on Windows 7 (32- and 64-bit), and I
don't care anything about

RE: Please help me stop weeping

2011-02-08 Thread Graeme Worth 
There may be reasons why you can't follow this suggestion, but if all else 
fails, can you restructure your text by removing your manual links and 
using the auto-generated links?

Graeme Worth

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Re: Hyperlinking Between Frame and MS Word Source

2011-02-08 Thread Writer 
That's pretty cool. Does that work for Word to Frame, too? Xref to a marker in 
Frame?

Nadine

--- On Tue, 2/8/11, Ben Allums all...@webworks.com wrote:

 From: Ben Allums all...@webworks.com
 Subject: Re: Hyperlinking Between Frame and MS Word Source
 To: dr_go...@pobox.com
 Cc: Steve Johnson chinask...@gmail.com, Angela Akridge 
 angela.akri...@gmail.com, framers@lists.frameusers.com, writer668 
 generic...@yahoo.ca
 Date: Tuesday, February 8, 2011, 10:05 AM
 On 2/4/2011 6:12 PM, Steve Johnson
 wrote:
  I'm copying Bell Allums from WebWorks. There probably
 is a way but I
  can't recall it.
  
  On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Angela Akridgeangela.akri...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
  I basically have a hybrid help system that calls
 both Frame source and MS
  Word source. I use WebWorks. The help output looks
 great, and a customer
  can't distinguish the underlying source. However,
 I need to link
  (cross-reference/hyperlink) between these two
 sources.
  
  Is there a way to link from a Frame source (H1) to
 an MS Word source (H1)?
  Since they are both proprietary, I think not.
 
 Angela,
 
 It is certainly possible to link between FrameMaker and
 Word documents with ePublisher.  You'll just be working
 with FrameMaker's hypertext markers to make it happen.
 
 I've posted the required steps and a sample ePublisher
 project up on the WebWorks wiki if you'd like to try it
 out.
 
 http://wiki.webworks.com/HelpCenter/Tips/Linking%20between%20Frame
 and%20Word
 
 Enjoy!
 
 
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Re: Hyperlinking Between Frame and MS Word Source

2011-02-08 Thread Ben Allums 

On 2/4/2011 6:12 PM, Steve Johnson wrote:

I'm copying Bell Allums from WebWorks. There probably is a way but I
can't recall it.

On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Angela Akridgeangela.akri...@gmail.com  wrote:

I basically have a hybrid help system that calls both Frame source and MS
Word source. I use WebWorks. The help output looks great, and a customer
can't distinguish the underlying source. However, I need to link
(cross-reference/hyperlink) between these two sources.

Is there a way to link from a Frame source (H1) to an MS Word source (H1)?
Since they are both proprietary, I think not.


Angela,

It is certainly possible to link between FrameMaker and Word documents 
with ePublisher.  You'll just be working with FrameMaker's hypertext 
markers to make it happen.


I've posted the required steps and a sample ePublisher project up on the 
WebWorks wiki if you'd like to try it out.


http://wiki.webworks.com/HelpCenter/Tips/Linking%20between%20Frame 
and%20Word


Enjoy!


Ben Allums
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512-381-8885
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Re: Hyperlinking Between Frame and MS Word Source

2011-02-08 Thread Ben Allums 

On 2/8/2011 9:28 AM, Writer wrote:

That's pretty cool. Does that work for Word to Frame, too? Xref to a marker in 
Frame?


Sure.  Create your destinations with newlink markers in Frame and then 
create the requisite hyperlink in Word.


ePublisher will even validate the links between the different document 
types in your project.  ;-)


And yes, this trick is also possible to do with DITA documents.  You can 
mix/match content from all three sources to create a unified deliverable 
with ePublisher.



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WebWorks 7 Character Mapping

2011-02-08 Thread Brad Anderson 
Framers,

For those of you old-time WebWorks folks on the list.   I have a friend that is 
still using Frame 7 and WebWorks Publisher 7 to produce HTML.  The process has 
been working splendidly for the past 10 years.  I've recently had to do a bit 
of updating for him, and I'm having trouble with some of the special 
characters.  I think it is due to the special font mapping that FrameMaker had 
internally.   Most characters can be mapped fine by looking in the Windows 
Character Map utility or in the FrameMaker Character Set PDF.However, there 
are a couple of characters that I cannot find the \u code for.   The stickiest 
is the degree symbol.

If I use the \u00B0 WebWorks just blows by it and the degree (°) is output but 
then renders incorrectly in the browser.

I believe this to be the result of FrameMaker internal character mapping.  If I 
copy the degree symbol from the character map and paste it into Frame, it 
converts to something other than the degree.   If I use the masculine ordinal 
indicator (º) (it looks very close to the degree), everything works fine.

If anyone know how to find out which characters are mapped in Frame and how to 
intercept, I'd appreciate it.

Thanks,

Brad
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Re: WebWorks 7 Character Mapping

2011-02-08 Thread Michael Müller-Hillebrand 
Brad,

Starting with a certain version, WWP has an internal mapping that matches the 
FrameRoman encoding to Unicode (and it handles the Mac characters also). I 
remember that old charcater maps were kept in old form (mapping to FrameRoman), 
but new maps used Unicode. I am not sure how to detect the difference. But you 
can not mix \xfb (FrameRoman for the degree) and \u00B0 in the same character 
map. Could this be the source of the problem?

I understand you first need to match the character before thinking what the 
output should be.

My old WWP support pages are still available, they live here:

http://wwp.cap-studio.de/index.html.en

There is also a character lis document that might be helpful, even though it 
does not show Unicode values, only Western Windows ANSI codes:

http://wwp.cap-studio.de/common/res/FM_SBCS_complete.html

I have about one request/year regarding WWP and sometimes I remember some 
stuff...

- Michael


Am 08.02.2011 um 17:26 schrieb Brad Anderson b...@frameusers.com:

 Framers,
 
 For those of you old-time WebWorks folks on the list.   I have a friend that 
 is still using Frame 7 and WebWorks Publisher 7 to produce HTML.  The process 
 has been working splendidly for the past 10 years.  I've recently had to do a 
 bit of updating for him, and I'm having trouble with some of the special 
 characters.  I think it is due to the special font mapping that FrameMaker 
 had internally.   Most characters can be mapped fine by looking in the 
 Windows Character Map utility or in the FrameMaker Character Set PDF.
 However, there are a couple of characters that I cannot find the \u code for. 
   The stickiest is the degree symbol.
 
 If I use the \u00B0 WebWorks just blows by it and the degree (°) is output 
 but then renders incorrectly in the browser.
 
 I believe this to be the result of FrameMaker internal character mapping.  If 
 I copy the degree symbol from the character map and paste it into Frame, it 
 converts to something other than the degree.   If I use the masculine ordinal 
 indicator (º) (it looks very close to the degree), everything works fine.
 
 If anyone know how to find out which characters are mapped in Frame and how 
 to intercept, I'd appreciate it.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Brad
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RE: Master Page Usage confusion

2011-02-08 Thread Spectrum Writing 
Silicon Prairie's Master Page tool will solve all these heartaches. You can
specify how you want your Master Page settings once in a MasterPage.fm file
and then use paragraph tags and/or markers to apply all master pages in a
single step - no need to go through page by page. I have no financial
affiliation with the software - just a very satisfied customer.

http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/



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www.spectrumwritingllc.com
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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tim Pann
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 12:55 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Master Page Usage confusion

Hello all,

I just discovered four pages in a long document I published almost a
year ago that were missing appropriate headers. This happened because I
inadvertently had an appendix-related master page applied, rather than
Right/Left.

I'm not going to blame FrameMaker for my goof but I would like to know
if anyone else finds setting Master Page Usage to be very confusing?
Maybe it's just me, but it doesn't seem very smart, meaning, I seem to
have to keep going back and re-setting usage as pages add. Especially I
find that when I apply a master page that changes the layout from
portrait to landscape or vice-versa, I have to keep re-selecting pages
that missed the conversion because the layout caused repagination.

Either way, it seems that the only way to be sure that master page usage
is correct is to check every single page.

Am I missing something simple? I hope I'm explaining myself
sufficiently.

Tim

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RE: Master Page Usage confusion

2011-02-08 Thread Combs, Richard 
Tim Pann wrote:
 
 I'm not going to blame FrameMaker for my goof but I would like to know
 if anyone else finds setting Master Page Usage to be very confusing?
 Maybe it's just me, but it doesn't seem very smart, meaning, I seem to
 have to keep going back and re-setting usage as pages add. Especially I
 find that when I apply a master page that changes the layout from
 portrait to landscape or vice-versa, I have to keep re-selecting pages
 that missed the conversion because the layout caused repagination.

It would help to tell us what version of FM you're using and some more details 
about how you're using master pages. 

FM's master page usage isn't, by itself, intended to be smart -- just simple 
and consistent. Unless you tell it otherwise, FM automatically applies the Left 
master page to even pages and the Right master page to odd ones. 

In recent versions of FM (starting at 6 or 7, IIRC), you can use master page 
mapping to assign a specific master page when a particular pgf format occurs. 
Look up master page mapping in the help or doc. 

I've never used master page mapping myself. My chapter files are designed to 
use the default Left and Right master pages for everything except the first 
page. And the appendix files use the same master pages as the chapters. Files 
that require different master pages (title page file and index) have their own 
master pages different from those in the chapter files. 

If you can't rethink the way you use master pages (e.g., don't create custom 
master pages for an appendix), I suspect master page mapping is what you need. 

HTH!

Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
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Re: Master Page Usage confusion

2011-02-08 Thread Klaus Mueller 
Hello Tim,

 it seems that the only way to be sure that master page
 usage is correct is to check every single page.

You may want to check the FrameScript Report: Master Page Usage.

http://www.i-frame.itl.info/en/feature-description/i-frame-modules/quality-pack/report-master-page-usage.html

Kind regards,
Klaus Müller, itl AG


--- Original Message ---
From: Tim Pann
Date: 08.02.2011 20:54
 Hello all,
 
 I just discovered four pages in a long document I published almost a
 year ago that were missing appropriate headers. This happened because I
 inadvertently had an appendix-related master page applied, rather than
 Right/Left.
 
 I'm not going to blame FrameMaker for my goof but I would like to know
 if anyone else finds setting Master Page Usage to be very confusing?
 Maybe it's just me, but it doesn't seem very smart, meaning, I seem to
 have to keep going back and re-setting usage as pages add. Especially I
 find that when I apply a master page that changes the layout from
 portrait to landscape or vice-versa, I have to keep re-selecting pages
 that missed the conversion because the layout caused repagination.
 
 Either way, it seems that the only way to be sure that master page usage
 is correct is to check every single page.
 
 Am I missing something simple? I hope I'm explaining myself
 sufficiently.
 
 Tim

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Concurrent Installations of Adobe Acrobat and Reader

2011-02-08 Thread Mike Wickham 
Hmmm... this is interesting. I stumbled upon it while searching for the 
still unavailable 64-bit PDF iFilter v10. Adobe representatives have 
been telling us for years not to have multiple Acrobat/Reader 
installations on the same computer, but this seems to have changed with 
Acrobat X. Adobe now appears to be saying that there is an advantage to 
having both Acrobat X and Reader X installed because Reader X has a 
protected mode that is more secure for viewing. Does anyone have 
comments? Dov?


Here's the link to the Adobe article:
http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/874/cpsid_87424.html

Mike Wickham

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Registration marks missing

2011-02-08 Thread Alan T Litchfield 
Changing the page size will not resolve your problem since that will  
only move the marks further beyond your reach (they exist beyond the  
ArtBox that you see in the preview image of the file). It is probable  
the marks are there but that you just cannot see them.

Here is something you can try:
Open the pdf in Acrobat and select Advanced > Print Production > Crop  
Pages
With Show All Boxes selected, choose BleedBox from the drop down list
Set the Units to your preferred measure
Enter the distance you require into the Margin Controls Field (say 10mm)
Click OK.

Good Luck

Alan

On 8/02/2011, at 4:29 AM, White, Scott wrote:

> All your suggestions do not work for save as PDF with Registration
> Marks.
>
> But, when I use the print option with Adobe PDF as my printer it  
> works.
>
>
>
> Has anyone else run Save as PDF and gotten registration marks?
>
>
>
> However, I was under the impression that printing to PDF is not the
> right way to create a color "print-ready" pdf. Colors are all off.
>
> Second, I have access to Frame on the Mac and I'm just wondering if it
> would be safer to use that knowing I will get the color and output I
> expect. This is our new company's first 1,000-page catalog and want to
> avoid every pitfall I can.
>
>
>
> Could I do this catalog in Frame 9, save as .mif 7 and open on the old
> Mac version to do my color output? A thought.
>
>
>
> Again, the color frustrations raise their ugly heads with Frame.
>
>
>
> For those who may have missed:
>
> Mac OS 10.6.6 running parallels, Frame 9.0 on Windows 7 Home Premium
>
>
>
> Scott White
> Manager - Content and Print Media
> Belmont, NC - 704-398-5752
>
>
> This message and any attachments are intended only for the use
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> 
>
> From: Brad Anderson [mailto:brad at frameusers.com]
> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 9:16 AM
> To: White, Scott
> Cc: Brad Anderson; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: Registration marks missing
>
>
>
> Scott,
>
>
>
> If the final page size is 11 x 17, you'll have to set up a custom page
> size (add an inch to both size so the final page size is 12 x 18).
> You'll need the extra inch around the page to add the registration
> marks.
>
>
>
> If this fails, try printing to PS and then distill instead of saving  
> to
> PDF.
>
>
>
> Do the registration marks now show?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Brad
>
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 7, 2011, at 7:33 AM, White, Scott wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Ok I am missing something. I have generate acrobat data turned off.
> Final output is 11x17.
> My steps are:
> *Select adobe acrobat as my printer.
> *Turn off generate acrobat data
> *Save as pdf from the drop down menu in Frame
> *Select page size
> *Print
>
> What am I missing?
>
>
>
>
> Scott White
> Manager - Content and Print Media
> Belmont, NC - 704-398-5752
>
>
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> -Original Message-
> From: Brad Anderson [mailto:brad at frameusers.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 5:20 PM
> To: White, Scott
> Cc: Brad Anderson; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: Registration marks missing
>
> Scott,
>
> What was the final size of the PDF?  11x17 or 8.5 x 11?   Turn off the
> Generate Acrobat Data--the PDF is probably being cropped.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brad

Registration marks missing

2011-02-08 Thread Alan Litchfield 
OK. What if you print to PDF instead, and then follow those steps?

It is preferable, I think, to have FM create the marks so that they are
accurately placed as the time of creation.

At least you are headed in a better direction :)

Alan

White, Scott wrote:
> Alan
> I thought for sure your suggestion would show me the crops. Nothing.
> I was able to put the marks on the page using Acrobat. But still no luck
> natively.
>
> Amazing.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Alan T Litchfield [mailto:alan at alphabyte.co.nz]
> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 2:27 PM
> To: White, Scott
> Cc: Brad Anderson; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: Registration marks missing
>
> Changing the page size will not resolve your problem since that will
> only move the marks further beyond your reach (they exist beyond the
> ArtBox that you see in the preview image of the file). It is probable
> the marks are there but that you just cannot see them.
>
> Here is something you can try:
> Open the pdf in Acrobat and select Advanced > Print Production > Crop
> Pages
> With Show All Boxes selected, choose BleedBox from the drop down list
> Set the Units to your preferred measure
> Enter the distance you require into the Margin Controls Field (say 10mm)
> Click OK.
>
> Good Luck
>
> Alan
>
> On 8/02/2011, at 4:29 AM, White, Scott wrote:
>
>> All your suggestions do not work for save as PDF with Registration
>> Marks.
>>
>> But, when I use the print option with Adobe PDF as my printer it
>> works.
>>
>>
>>
>> Has anyone else run Save as PDF and gotten registration marks?
>>
>>
>>
>> However, I was under the impression that printing to PDF is not the
>> right way to create a color "print-ready" pdf. Colors are all off.
>>
>> Second, I have access to Frame on the Mac and I'm just wondering if it
>> would be safer to use that knowing I will get the color and output I
>> expect. This is our new company's first 1,000-page catalog and want to
>> avoid every pitfall I can.
>>
>>
>>
>> Could I do this catalog in Frame 9, save as .mif 7 and open on the old
>> Mac version to do my color output? A thought.
>>
>>
>>
>> Again, the color frustrations raise their ugly heads with Frame.
>>
>>
>>
>> For those who may have missed:
>>
>> Mac OS 10.6.6 running parallels, Frame 9.0 on Windows 7 Home Premium
>>
>>
>>
>> Scott White
>> Manager - Content and Print Media
>> Belmont, NC - 704-398-5752
>>
>>
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>>
>> From: Brad Anderson [mailto:brad at frameusers.com]
>> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 9:16 AM
>> To: White, Scott
>> Cc: Brad Anderson; framers at lists.frameusers.com
>> Subject: Re: Registration marks missing
>>
>>
>>
>> Scott,
>>
>>
>>
>> If the final page size is 11 x 17, you'll have to set up a custom page
>> size (add an inch to both size so the final page size is 12 x 18).
>> You'll need the extra inch around the page to add the registration
>> marks.
>>
>>
>>
>> If this fails, try printing to PS and then distill instead of saving
>> to
>> PDF.
>>
>>
>>
>> Do the registration marks now show?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> Brad
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 7, 2011, at 7:33 AM, White, Scott wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Ok I am missing something. I have generate acrobat data turned off.
>> Final output is 11x17.
>> My steps are:
>> *Select adobe acrobat as my printer.
>> *Turn off generate acrobat data
>> *Save as pdf from the drop down menu in Frame
>> *Select page size
>> *Print
>>
>> What am I missing?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Scott White
>> Manager - Content and Print Media
>> Belmont, NC - 704-398-5752
>>
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Adding fixed text to a single chapter's page numbering

2011-02-08 Thread Alan Litchfield 
Hi David,

Have a read of Lester's helpful summary here:

http://www.infocon.com/files/autonum.pdf

Good Luck

Alan

David Millis wrote:
> Frame 7.2
>
>
>
> My book begins and ends with chapters that use the small roman page
> numbering format. All other chapters except one use the continuing page
> number format of 1, 2, 3, ... The problem I can't figure out is I'd like
> to use the following page number format for my Appendix chapter: A-1,
> A-2, A-3, ... I've got a left and right Appendix master page using the
> format A-# and the Format > Document > Numbering > Page property is set
> to First Page # = 1 and Format is set to Numeric (14). Can someone
> please fill in the blanks so I can use this page number format for a
> single chapter?
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
>
>
> David
>
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Registration marks missing

2011-02-08 Thread White, Scott 
Good points from all.

The bottom line though, is anyone on here getting registration marks to appear 
when using save as pdf instead of print to pdf? If so, can I get a step by step 
to see if I am missing something in my settings?

Thanks in advance.

Scott White
Manager - Content and Print Media
Belmont, NC - 704-398-5752


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From: Jacob Sch?ffer [mailto:j...@grafikhuset.dk] 
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 5:16 PM
To: White, Scott; 'Brad Anderson'
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: SV: Registration marks missing

Scott,

This is likely a PDF /CropBox "understanding" issue, which mean that
everything might be OK afterall. Unfortunately, the term "CropBox" might
bring confusion although the concept is clear.

/CropBox defines the *visible* page size in a viewer. CropBox has
effectively NOTHING to do with "trimming" according to crop marks - although
the name says so.

/MediaBox defines the RAW "print" paper size, ie. when you print a "letter"
size on "legal" or "A3" paper, you'll see the cut marks and use a hand-held
knife to "cut" :-)

/ArtBox is of absolutely no use if you wish a reference to a fixed region
(I've NEVER understood the significant value of the ArtBox EXCEPT when
placing PDF as substitute for EPS -- in which case it's totally meaningless
to apply crop marks (because they will become "art"))

/TrimBox, which defines the true "cutting" edges in real-world production
anno 2011.

In many cases ignorant designers and quite a few software packages sets both
TrimBox and CropBox *wrong* and in some cases with reversed meaning --
adding huge to overall confusion.

Personally, I discarded the "Save As PDF" in Frame 9 a long time ago. I did
that when I discovered it was based on more than 10 years old PostScript
Level 1 code stolen from antediluvian Unix versions of Framemaker.

So, printing to PDF from Frame is *still* ultimately the best bet *IF* and
*ONLY* if you work with RGB bitmap art (TIFF, BMP, JPG) and avoid spot
colours like the plague.

If you use CMYK TIFF, don't go to print at all *unless* you can
*successfully* use "Save As PDF" *or* persuade your printer to accept
pre-separated PostScript or PDF for print. And -- in this case -- don't say
"go" without a final proof.

Unfortunately I can't offer a bullet-proof work-around. However, my Publi
PDF software has made quite a difference for SEVERAL Framemaker users
worldwide over the past decade, of which MANY users subscribe to this list.

I have paid enormous amounts to Flexera Software to keep an Activation
Service alive for Publi PDF, and through the past 3 years the residue from
the Publi PDF *single user* edition has been approx the price of one or two
(very, very, very good though) Italian Amarone(s). Anyway, today I'm working
on other very promising projects and really only win nothingness by keeping
the Publi PDF "client" licensed. Hence, Publi PDF - in the form most users
know it -- is going FREEWARE quite soon (USD 850 per license today).

I really think Publi PDF could help you with your catalogue, but you'll have
to experiment with it. As FREEWARE Publi PDF is *effectively* unsupported.

A good place to start is here: http://www.grafikhuset.net/PubliPDF/

You'll find a LOT of information here:
http://www.grafikhuset.net/PubliPDF/techdocs.htm. You MUST read this stuff
if you REALLY want to know what Publi PDF can do for you. I don't answer
questions that is already answered in the "techdocs" section.

The latest *official* single user edition is revision 1.50.0432. This is
available for download from: http://grafikhuset.net/PubliPDF/download.htm.
This edition works with Distiller 8.X to X and GPL GhostScript 8.70 or later
(that's not true, older versions are supported, but DON'T use them). This
version may work on Vista and Windows 7 if you understand how to disable
UAC. If not, wait for version 1.9.X.

The latest *real* Publi PDF Client is revision 1.9.X. It will be published
to http://grafikhuset.net/PubliPDF/download.htm as soon as I can find the
time for it. This version runs smoothly on Windows 7 (32- and 64-bit),

Please help me stop weeping

2011-02-08 Thread Graeme Worth 
There may be reasons why you can't follow this suggestion, but if all else 
fails, can you restructure your text by removing your manual links and 
using the auto-generated links?
Graeme Worth

Hyperlinking Between Frame and MS Word Source

2011-02-08 Thread Writer 
That's pretty cool. Does that work for Word to Frame, too? Xref to a marker in 
Frame?

Nadine

--- On Tue, 2/8/11, Ben Allums  wrote:

> From: Ben Allums 
> Subject: Re: Hyperlinking Between Frame and MS Word Source
> To: dr_gonzo at pobox.com
> Cc: "Steve Johnson" , "Angela Akridge" 
> , framers at lists.frameusers.com, "writer668" 
> 
> Date: Tuesday, February 8, 2011, 10:05 AM
> On 2/4/2011 6:12 PM, Steve Johnson
> wrote:
> > I'm copying Bell Allums from WebWorks. There probably
> is a way but I
> > can't recall it.
> > 
> > On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Angela Akridge?
> wrote:
> >> I basically have a "hybrid" help system that calls
> both Frame source and MS
> >> Word source. I use WebWorks. The help output looks
> great, and a customer
> >> can't distinguish the underlying source. However,
> I need to link
> >> (cross-reference/hyperlink) between these two
> sources.
> >> 
> >> Is there a way to link from a Frame source (H1) to
> an MS Word source (H1)?
> >> Since they are both proprietary, I think not.
> 
> Angela,
> 
> It is certainly possible to link between FrameMaker and
> Word documents with ePublisher.? You'll just be working
> with FrameMaker's hypertext markers to make it happen.
> 
> I've posted the required steps and a sample ePublisher
> project up on the WebWorks wiki if you'd like to try it
> out.
> 
>  and%20Word>
> 
> Enjoy!
> 
> 
> Ben Allums
> allums at webworks.com
> 512-381-8885
> 0%

Hyperlinking Between Frame and MS Word Source

2011-02-08 Thread Ben Allums 
On 2/4/2011 6:12 PM, Steve Johnson wrote:
> I'm copying Bell Allums from WebWorks. There probably is a way but I
> can't recall it.
>
> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Angela Akridge  
> wrote:
>> I basically have a "hybrid" help system that calls both Frame source and MS
>> Word source. I use WebWorks. The help output looks great, and a customer
>> can't distinguish the underlying source. However, I need to link
>> (cross-reference/hyperlink) between these two sources.
>>
>> Is there a way to link from a Frame source (H1) to an MS Word source (H1)?
>> Since they are both proprietary, I think not.

Angela,

It is certainly possible to link between FrameMaker and Word documents 
with ePublisher.  You'll just be working with FrameMaker's hypertext 
markers to make it happen.

I've posted the required steps and a sample ePublisher project up on the 
WebWorks wiki if you'd like to try it out.



Enjoy!


Ben Allums
allums at webworks.com
512-381-8885

Hyperlinking Between Frame and MS Word Source

2011-02-08 Thread Ben Allums 
On 2/8/2011 9:28 AM, Writer wrote:
> That's pretty cool. Does that work for Word to Frame, too? Xref to a marker 
> in Frame?

Sure.  Create your destinations with "newlink" markers in Frame and then 
create the requisite hyperlink in Word.

ePublisher will even validate the links between the different document 
types in your project.  ;-)

And yes, this trick is also possible to do with DITA documents.  You can 
mix/match content from all three sources to create a unified deliverable 
with ePublisher.


Ben Allums
allums at webworks.com
512-381-8885

WebWorks 7 & Character Mapping

2011-02-08 Thread Brad Anderson 
Framers,

For those of you old-time WebWorks folks on the list.   I have a friend that is 
still using Frame 7 and WebWorks Publisher 7 to produce HTML.  The process has 
been working splendidly for the past 10 years.  I've recently had to do a bit 
of updating for him, and I'm having trouble with some of the special 
characters.  I think it is due to the special font mapping that FrameMaker had 
internally.   Most characters can be mapped fine by looking in the Windows 
Character Map utility or in the FrameMaker Character Set PDF.However, there 
are a couple of characters that I cannot find the \u code for.   The stickiest 
is the degree symbol.

If I use the \u00B0 WebWorks just blows by it and the degree (?) is output but 
then renders incorrectly in the browser.

I believe this to be the result of FrameMaker internal character mapping.  If I 
copy the degree symbol from the character map and paste it into Frame, it 
converts to something other than the degree.   If I use the masculine ordinal 
indicator (?) (it looks very close to the degree), everything works fine.

If anyone know how to find out which characters are mapped in Frame and how to 
intercept, I'd appreciate it.

Thanks,

Brad

WebWorks 7 & Character Mapping

2011-02-08 Thread Michael Müller-Hillebrand 
Brad,

Starting with a certain version, WWP has an internal mapping that matches the 
FrameRoman encoding to Unicode (and it handles the Mac characters also). I 
remember that old charcater maps were kept in old form (mapping to FrameRoman), 
but new maps used Unicode. I am not sure how to detect the difference. But you 
can not mix \xfb (FrameRoman for the degree) and \u00B0 in the same character 
map. Could this be the source of the problem?

I understand you first need to match the character before thinking what the 
output should be.

My old WWP support pages are still available, they live here:

http://wwp.cap-studio.de/index.html.en

There is also a character lis document that might be helpful, even though it 
does not show Unicode values, only Western Windows ANSI codes:

http://wwp.cap-studio.de/common/res/FM_SBCS_complete.html

I have about one request/year regarding WWP and sometimes I remember some 
stuff...

- Michael


Am 08.02.2011 um 17:26 schrieb Brad Anderson :

> Framers,
> 
> For those of you old-time WebWorks folks on the list.   I have a friend that 
> is still using Frame 7 and WebWorks Publisher 7 to produce HTML.  The process 
> has been working splendidly for the past 10 years.  I've recently had to do a 
> bit of updating for him, and I'm having trouble with some of the special 
> characters.  I think it is due to the special font mapping that FrameMaker 
> had internally.   Most characters can be mapped fine by looking in the 
> Windows Character Map utility or in the FrameMaker Character Set PDF.
> However, there are a couple of characters that I cannot find the \u code for. 
>   The stickiest is the degree symbol.
> 
> If I use the \u00B0 WebWorks just blows by it and the degree (?) is output 
> but then renders incorrectly in the browser.
> 
> I believe this to be the result of FrameMaker internal character mapping.  If 
> I copy the degree symbol from the character map and paste it into Frame, it 
> converts to something other than the degree.   If I use the masculine ordinal 
> indicator (?) (it looks very close to the degree), everything works fine.
> 
> If anyone know how to find out which characters are mapped in Frame and how 
> to intercept, I'd appreciate it.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Brad

Master Page Usage confusion

2011-02-08 Thread Tim Pann 
Hello all,

I just discovered four pages in a long document I published almost a
year ago that were missing appropriate headers. This happened because I
inadvertently had an appendix-related master page applied, rather than
Right/Left.

I'm not going to blame FrameMaker for my goof but I would like to know
if anyone else finds setting Master Page Usage to be very confusing?
Maybe it's just me, but it doesn't seem very "smart," meaning, I seem to
have to keep going back and re-setting usage as pages add. Especially I
find that when I apply a master page that changes the layout from
portrait to landscape or vice-versa, I have to keep re-selecting pages
that missed the conversion because the layout caused repagination.

Either way, it seems that the only way to be sure that master page usage
is correct is to check every single page.

Am I missing something simple? I hope I'm explaining myself
sufficiently.

Tim

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Master Page Usage confusion

2011-02-08 Thread Spectrum Writing 
Silicon Prairie's Master Page tool will solve all these heartaches. You can
specify how you want your Master Page settings once in a MasterPage.fm file
and then use paragraph tags and/or markers to apply all master pages in a
single step - no need to go through page by page. I have no financial
affiliation with the software - just a very satisfied customer.

http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/



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www.spectrumwritingllc.com
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[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tim Pann
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 12:55 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Master Page Usage confusion

Hello all,

I just discovered four pages in a long document I published almost a
year ago that were missing appropriate headers. This happened because I
inadvertently had an appendix-related master page applied, rather than
Right/Left.

I'm not going to blame FrameMaker for my goof but I would like to know
if anyone else finds setting Master Page Usage to be very confusing?
Maybe it's just me, but it doesn't seem very "smart," meaning, I seem to
have to keep going back and re-setting usage as pages add. Especially I
find that when I apply a master page that changes the layout from
portrait to landscape or vice-versa, I have to keep re-selecting pages
that missed the conversion because the layout caused repagination.

Either way, it seems that the only way to be sure that master page usage
is correct is to check every single page.

Am I missing something simple? I hope I'm explaining myself
sufficiently.

Tim

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Master Page Usage confusion

2011-02-08 Thread Combs, Richard 
Tim Pann wrote:

> I'm not going to blame FrameMaker for my goof but I would like to know
> if anyone else finds setting Master Page Usage to be very confusing?
> Maybe it's just me, but it doesn't seem very "smart," meaning, I seem to
> have to keep going back and re-setting usage as pages add. Especially I
> find that when I apply a master page that changes the layout from
> portrait to landscape or vice-versa, I have to keep re-selecting pages
> that missed the conversion because the layout caused repagination.

It would help to tell us what version of FM you're using and some more details 
about how you're using master pages. 

FM's master page usage isn't, by itself, intended to be "smart" -- just simple 
and consistent. Unless you tell it otherwise, FM automatically applies the Left 
master page to even pages and the Right master page to odd ones. 

In recent versions of FM (starting at 6 or 7, IIRC), you can use master page 
mapping to assign a specific master page when a particular pgf format occurs. 
Look up master page mapping in the help or doc. 

I've never used master page mapping myself. My chapter files are designed to 
use the default Left and Right master pages for everything except the first 
page. And the appendix files use the same master pages as the chapters. Files 
that require different master pages (title page file and index) have their own 
master pages different from those in the chapter files. 

If you can't rethink the way you use master pages (e.g., don't create custom 
master pages for an appendix), I suspect master page mapping is what you need. 

HTH!

Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
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