Getting to SGML
FM9 on Windows 7 I write manuals for the US Navy, using FM – and I’m fine as long as I stay in FM. I structure them using the Navy DTD and all, and they should go to sgml without too much problem, but I just don’t have a good handle on the process. Part of the problem is that I only have to do this once every few years, so it doesn’t stick with me. Does anyone know of a book or other source that can really walk me through the process of getting my Navy manuals to acceptable sgml? It would need to include flowcharts or some other mechanism to educate me on not only how to, for instance, write a read-write rule, but when one is needed. Some information on element types would be helpful…. Etc. I really need my hand held here. TIA, Al Friend Safety Officer Tech Writer/Editor Documentation Control Coordinator Howell Laboratories, Inc. 207-647-3327 This email was sent by Howell Laboratories, Inc. or Shively Labs. It may contain information that is confidential or privileged. If you suspect you were not intended to receive it, please delete it without copying or forwarding it, and notify the sender by reply email or by calling 207-647-3327. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Table Continuation variable - how do I change to lower-case c?
We follow the Chicago Manual Of Style Sixteenth Edition (CMOS-16) as our primary standard. CMOS-16 3.21 on p. 122 (Captions) Syntax, punctuation, and capitalization tells us, ...Captions should be capitalized in sentence style (see 8.156) CMOS-16 8.156 on p. 448, Principals and examples of sentence-style capitalization explains sentence-style capitalization rules. My editors are complaining that when writers use the Table Continuation variable, Continued is initial capped. My editors want a lower-case c (continued). I can not determine how to change the Table Continuation variable from Continued to continued. Please, can someone tell me how to change the Table Continuation variable from a upper-case C to lower-case c? FM9, Win7Pro, Dell Precision T3500 workstation. Thanks! Richard ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Table Continuation variable - how do I change to lower-case c?
ri...@inficon.com wrote: I can not determine how to change the Table Continuation variable from Continued to continued. Please, can someone tell me how to change the Table Continuation variable from a upper-case C to lower-case c? The same way you edit the value of any variable. Go to Special Variable. In the Variable dialog box, select Table Continuation and click Edit Definition. In the Edit System Variable dialog box, edit the definition and click Edit. Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-903-6372 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Table Continuation variable - how do I change to lower-case c?
Thanks to everyone for their quick response. All responses were similar to David's (see below). However, when I select the Table Continuation variable then click Edit Definition it pulls up the Page Count variable in the Edit System Variable dialog box. I can't find the way to edit the Table Continuation variable. It should be so simple, but it just is not working for me this morning. Richard From: David Artman da...@davidartman.com To: ri...@inficon.com, framers@lists.frameusers.com Date: 05/16/2012 11:28 AM Subject: RE: Table Continuation variable - how do I change to lower-case c? On the FM main menu, select Special Variables. Find the Table Continuation variable. Click Edit Definition. Change the Definition field to suit your needs. Click Edit to commit the change. Click Done on the Variable dialog to close it. Should do it. HTH; David Original Message My editors are complaining that when writers use the Table Continuation variable, Continued is initial capped. My editors want a lower-case c (continued). ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
SOLVED Re: Table Continuation variable - how do I change to lower-case c?
I can not edit the variable by selecting Table Continuation in the Variables pod, then selecting Edit. I just can't find the Table Continuation variable anywhere in the Edit System Variable dialog box. But, if I place the Table Continuation variable, then click on the Table Continuation marker, it pulls up the Variables dialog box with Table Continuation highlighted. Now when I click Edit I can edit the variable from upper-case C to lower-case C in the Edit System Variable dialog box. OK, I'm stopping for lunch now. I need a break. Thanks again for your help! Richard ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Throw Sharepoint to the Curb and Use SVN Instead
You can't do a diff between two versions of an .fm file in SharePoint, either. On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 7:51 AM, Joseph Lorenzini jalo...@gmail.com wrote: ... The only downside is that because FrameMaker files are binary, there is no way to do SVN diffs between two different versions of the same file. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Random stray number
FrameMaker 10, Windows 7 64 bit, all apps up to date. I am single-sourcing some content here (unstructured), and this issue is driving me bug eyed. I am using a lot of text insets that have numbering. I have two styles for numbering these - one that sets the numbering to start at 1, and the other to increment the numbering. I keep the formatting of the text inset when I import to the main document. For some reason Frame displays a brand new 1 after the end of the numbered list, ONLY in the main document. I do not see it in the raw text inset. I've added spaces, added lines with body styles - even tried pulling all my hair out. Nothing seems to resolve this extraneous number. There is a clue however - this number only EVER appears on the very last page. I have 33 pages here, full of text insets with numbering. None misbehaves except the very last one. Anyone have a hint? Steve Cavanaugh ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
utility to check that all heading names are unique?
Is there a utility that will check a FrameMaker book and report duplicate heading names? I'm working on migrating from FrameMaker to Confluence, and duplicate heading names would cause problems. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Table Continuation variable - how do I change to lower-case c?
On the FM main menu, select Special Variables. Find the Table Continuation variable. Click Edit Definition. Change the Definition field to suit your needs. Click Edit to commit the change. Click Done on the Variable dialog to close it. Should do it. HTH; David Original Message My editors are complaining that when writers use the Table Continuation variable, Continued is initial capped. My editors want a lower-case c (continued). ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: utility to check that all heading names are unique?
Hi Robert, You could generate a list of paragraphs, save it to a text file, and use a text editor that can sort lines and show duplicates. I use EditPad Pro and it can do this. If you want a more automated and polished way of doing it, I could write you a FrameScript script to do it. If you are interested, please contact me off-list. Thanks. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-283-5045 585-219-8959 fax r...@frameexpert.com http://www.frameexpert.com -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 4:29 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: utility to check that all heading names are unique? Is there a utility that will check a FrameMaker book and report duplicate heading names? I'm working on migrating from FrameMaker to Confluence, and duplicate heading names would cause problems. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as r...@rickquatro.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rick%40rickquatro.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: utility to check that all heading names are unique?
On 2012-05-15 16:29, Robert Lauriston wrote: Is there a utility that will check a FrameMaker book and report duplicate heading names? You could use Special List Of Paragraphs (Alphabetical) for all your headings (or repeated Lists, one heading at a time), and then scan through them looking for duplicates. HTH, Stuart Rogers Phoenix Geophysics Ltd. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Tables on spreads
On 15/05/2012 9:54 AM, Steve Rickaby wrote: At 14:08 +0100 15/5/12, Steve Rickaby wrote: To save me a load of thrashing around, can I just check that I'm correct in assuming that FrameMaker doesn't understand the concept of a 'spread', as in for example InDesign, i.e. two facing pages . I need to straddle tables across facing pages somehow. I have a workaround: set up A3 landscape 2-col. It seems then that a table can then span both columns. If this will print 2-up A4 with the correct pagination I'm home and dry... I have another workaround, involving cross-referencing and cropping; if yours doesn't work, let me know and I'll provide more details. s. -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3 Toronto, ON, Canada M1W 3K5 +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Tables on spreads
At 15:35 -0400 16/5/12, Stuart Rogers wrote: I have another workaround, involving cross-referencing and cropping; if yours doesn't work, let me know and I'll provide more details. Stuart, thanks. Mine sort of doesn't work, in that I get ok PDF but cannot find a (Mac) printer option that does what I want, which is 'print one page on two sheets'. Lots of options to do the opposite, i.e. print two/many pages on one sheet. So please post your other workaround. I could load up my old A3 printer with A3 stock and sharpen a knife, but I don't have any left since my neighbourhood composer 'borrowed' it to print his latest opera score ;-) -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Tables on spreads
On 16/05/2012 3:43 PM, Steve Rickaby wrote: At 15:35 -0400 16/5/12, Stuart Rogers wrote: I have another workaround, involving cross-referencing and cropping; if yours doesn't work, let me know and I'll provide more details. Stuart, thanks. Mine sort of doesn't work, in that I get ok PDF but cannot find a (Mac) printer option that does what I want, which is 'print one page on two sheets'. Lots of options to do the opposite, i.e. print two/many pages on one sheet. So please post your other workaround. OK, here goes. I did try this once several years ago for someone who was asking the same sort of thing; I haven't used it myself in a production document. It's cumbersome to set up and maintain, but might work for you. (And I see now that I used text insets, not x-refs.) Page sizes are in North American terms; interpret to suit your national conventions :-) Create the table on an 11x17 landscape layout in its own file. In your working file, on a left page, create an anchored frame the same size and position as your text frame. Within it, create a text frame of the same dimensions and position. Put the insertion point in that text frame and import the table file as an inset. You now have the left half of your table on a left page, cropped by the anchored frame. Repeat the process on the following right page. Select the imported table on that page and set its Alignment in the Table Designer to Right. (This is an override; just Apply, don't Update All.) You now have the right half of the table on a right page, cropped by the anchored frame. Obviously, you'll have to do some playing around with a central table column with no borders or content, to accommodate the book's gutter. Also, the autonumbering, if it exists, will increment on the right page. You might have to fake the table numbering for your TOC by putting a titled empty table above the real one, and autonumber the real one with its own series label that is not used elsewhere, so as not to disrupt the numbering of other tables in the book. HTH, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3 Toronto, ON, Canada M1W 3K5 +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Random stray number
On 15/05/2012 3:01 PM, Steve Cavanaugh wrote: FrameMaker 10, Windows 7 64 bit, all apps up to date. I am single-sourcing some content here (unstructured), and this issue is driving me bug eyed. I am using a lot of text insets that have numbering. I have two styles for numbering these - one that sets the numbering to start at 1, and the other to increment the numbering. I keep the formatting of the text inset when I import to the main document. For some reason Frame displays a brand new 1 after the end of the numbered list, ONLY in the main document. I do not see it in the raw text inset. I've added spaces, added lines with body styles - even tried pulling all my hair out. Nothing seems to resolve this extraneous number. There is a clue however - this number only EVER appears on the very last page. I have 33 pages here, full of text insets with numbering. None misbehaves except the very last one. Anyone have a hint? Richard Combs wrote a good post on insets a year ago that I quote below. I think it applies to your problem. (It may make a difference to insert the extra space *before* you import the inset and reposition your cursor ahead of the space; not sure myself.) = A text inset is something like an anchored frame or table. It sits in the flow as a zero-width object at the spot where you inserted it, i.e., the container paragraph. You can demonstrate this to yourself by putting the cursor at the end of the paragraph before the text inset and then pressing the right arrow key repeatedly. You'll see that a single key-press moves the cursor from just before the text inset to just after. Type some text after the inset, then triple-click somewhere in that text to select the entire paragraph. You'll see that the text inset, like the rest of the paragraph that contains it, is selected. Since the text inset source is a complete flow, it necessarily ends with a paragraph end. So the extra space is the result of two paragraph ends in a row: the end of the last paragraph in the text inset source and the end of the empty container paragraph into which you inserted it. [...] The original problem: A long-standing FM bug causes the paragraph containing a text inset to inherit the format of the first paragraph in the text inset source _if_ the text inset sits adjacent to the pilcrow (end-of-paragraph symbol) of the container paragraph. This is similar/related) to the bug that causes a paragraph override if you apply a character tag adjacent to the pilcrow. The solution to both is simple: separate the text inset or char tag from the pilcrow with a space or something. I prefer putting text insets in their own empty paragraphs (instead of at the beginning of whatever follows), so I always insert a non-breaking space between the end of the text inset and the end of the container paragraph. A regular space would work, but I prefer having a visible symbol there as confirmation (I always work with View Text Symbols on and strongly encourage doing). I also use a dedicated paragraph format as the container for text insets, with size and spacing that works for me (i.e., introduces extra space that I've planned for and can live with). [R. Combs] -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3 Toronto, ON, Canada M1W 3K5 +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FM9: Cross refs lost when building a PDF (Terri Schultz)
We started using extensive Cross-refs about 5 years ago. Experienced similar
issues with some not working in pdf. At that time we turned on the links, which
generates Named Destinations all over the place, and the issue went away. We
decided to live with the bloated file size and more sluggish performance of the
pdfs.
Recently, we started doing more fancy stuff with annotations and other such in
the pdf, and the size became a huge issue with slow saves, sluggishness, etc.
Turning off the links, and optimizing the files cured that problem, but ...
some broken links reared up again. Some of these files are 50 pages of many
column tables in small print, so are most likely generating 50,000 or so named
destinations with the links on. This is not acceptable.
So we did some serious research and discovered the following:
When Frame populates Frame generated files, such as TOCs, Indexes, Lists of,
etc. it generates a Named Destination for its internal use for those
elements/paragraphs called in the generated files. This is permanently stored
in the Frame file. This is why the hyperlink markers in the generated files
always work, regardless of the links setting in the pdf setup.
We painfully discovered that if you manually create a hypertext marker of the
type used for generated files:
openObjectId {filename}:2 {UniqueID}
and point to a UniqueID that is called by a generated file the link works in
pdf, and if not called it does not work in pdf. Works great in Frame. As a test
I generated a file containing only the element/paratag type (Para in this
case), and recreated the pdf. The broken links for that element//paratag type
then worked, but but broken links for others not in the generate did not.
We use the FDK to create a highlight report, and build links manually to point
to the associated content. We now know why some work and some don't if the
links setting is off. Some were in content called by generates and some were
not.
We also had issues with some, but not all cross-refs when the links setting was
off. Here we discovered that if you point to another file in a Frame book, and
DO NOT UPDATE THE FRAME BOOK before you create the pdf, those cross-refs do not
work in the pdf, although they are OK in Frame. So it would seem that Frame
also creates and stores named destinations for cross-refs when you update the
book.
I surmise that after you complete your cross-ref work if you update the book
prior to pdf creation they will work with the link setting off. Same thing
should hold true for a single file. Updated the file before you do the pdf.
Others may have more insight on this. We are now researching methods to create
named destinations for our manually inserted hypertext markers without
resorting to turning on the links setting.
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Getting to SGML
FM9 on Windows 7 I write manuals for the US Navy, using FM ? and I?m fine as long as I stay in FM. I structure them using the Navy DTD and all, and they should go to sgml without too much problem, but I just don?t have a good handle on the process. Part of the problem is that I only have to do this once every few years, so it doesn?t stick with me. Does anyone know of a book or other source that can really walk me through the process of getting my Navy manuals to acceptable sgml? It would need to include flowcharts or some other mechanism to educate me on not only how to, for instance, write a read-write rule, but when one is needed. Some information on element types would be helpful?. Etc. I really need my hand held here. TIA, Al Friend Safety Officer Tech Writer/Editor Documentation Control Coordinator Howell Laboratories, Inc. 207-647-3327 This email was sent by Howell Laboratories, Inc. or Shively Labs. It may contain information that is confidential or privileged. If you suspect you were not intended to receive it, please delete it without copying or forwarding it, and notify the sender by reply email or by calling 207-647-3327. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20120516/702bb4fb/attachment.html>
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rinch at Inficon.com wrote: > I can not determine how to change the Table Continuation variable from > "Continued" to "continued." Please, can someone tell me how to change > the Table Continuation variable from a upper-case ?"C" to lower-case > "c"? The same way you edit the value of any variable. Go to Special > Variable. In the Variable dialog box, select Table Continuation and click Edit Definition. In the Edit System Variable dialog box, edit the definition and click Edit. Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-903-6372 --
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Table Continuation variable - how do I change to lower-case c?
On the FM main menu, select Special > Variables. Find the "Table Continuation" variable. Click Edit Definition. Change the Definition field to suit your needs. Click Edit to commit the change. Click Done on the Variable dialog to close it. Should do it. HTH; David Original Message My editors are complaining that when writers use the Table Continuation variable, "Continued" is initial capped. My editors want a lower-case c (continued).
utility to check that all heading names are unique?
Hi Robert, You could generate a list of paragraphs, save it to a text file, and use a text editor that can sort lines and show duplicates. I use EditPad Pro and it can do this. If you want a more automated and "polished" way of doing it, I could write you a FrameScript script to do it. If you are interested, please contact me off-list. Thanks. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-283-5045 585-219-8959 fax rick at frameexpert.com http://www.frameexpert.com -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 4:29 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: utility to check that all heading names are unique? Is there a utility that will check a FrameMaker book and report duplicate heading names? I'm working on migrating from FrameMaker to Confluence, and duplicate heading names would cause problems. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as rick at rickquatro.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rick%40rickquatro.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
utility to check that all heading names are unique?
On 2012-05-15 16:29, Robert Lauriston wrote: > Is there a utility that will check a FrameMaker book and report > duplicate heading names? > You could use Special > List Of > Paragraphs (Alphabetical) for all your headings (or repeated Lists, one heading at a time), and then scan through them looking for duplicates. HTH, Stuart Rogers Phoenix Geophysics Ltd.
Tables on spreads
On 15/05/2012 9:54 AM, Steve Rickaby wrote: > At 14:08 +0100 15/5/12, Steve Rickaby wrote: > >> To save me a load of thrashing around, can I just check that I'm >> correct in assuming that FrameMaker doesn't understand the concept >> of a 'spread', as in for example InDesign, i.e. two facing pages . >> I need to straddle tables across facing pages somehow. > > I have a workaround: set up A3 landscape 2-col. It seems then that a > table can then span both columns. If this will print 2-up A4 with the > correct pagination I'm home and dry... I have another workaround, involving cross-referencing and cropping; if yours doesn't work, let me know and I'll provide more details. s. -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3 Toronto, ON, Canada M1W 3K5 +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com
Tables on spreads
At 15:35 -0400 16/5/12, Stuart Rogers wrote: >I have another workaround, involving cross-referencing and cropping; if yours >doesn't work, let me know and I'll provide more details. Stuart, thanks. Mine sort of doesn't work, in that I get ok PDF but cannot find a (Mac) printer option that does what I want, which is 'print one page on two sheets'. Lots of options to do the opposite, i.e. print two/many pages on one sheet. So please post your other workaround. I could load up my old A3 printer with A3 stock and sharpen a knife, but I don't have any left since my neighbourhood composer 'borrowed' it to print his latest opera score ;-) -- Steve
Tables on spreads
On 16/05/2012 3:43 PM, Steve Rickaby wrote: > At 15:35 -0400 16/5/12, Stuart Rogers wrote: > >> I have another workaround, involving cross-referencing and >> cropping; if yours doesn't work, let me know and I'll provide more >> details. > > Stuart, thanks. Mine sort of doesn't work, in that I get ok PDF but > cannot find a (Mac) printer option that does what I want, which is > 'print one page on two sheets'. Lots of options to do the opposite, > i.e. print two/many pages on one sheet. So please post your other > workaround. > OK, here goes. I did try this once several years ago for someone who was asking the same sort of thing; I haven't used it myself in a production document. It's cumbersome to set up and maintain, but might work for you. (And I see now that I used text insets, not x-refs.) Page sizes are in North American terms; interpret to suit your national conventions :-) Create the table on an 11x17 landscape layout in its own file. In your working file, on a left page, create an anchored frame the same size and position as your text frame. Within it, create a text frame of the same dimensions and position. Put the insertion point in that text frame and import the table file as an inset. You now have the left half of your table on a left page, cropped by the anchored frame. Repeat the process on the following right page. Select the imported table on that page and set its Alignment in the Table Designer to Right. (This is an override; just Apply, don't Update All.) You now have the right half of the table on a right page, cropped by the anchored frame. Obviously, you'll have to do some playing around with a central table column with no borders or content, to accommodate the book's gutter. Also, the autonumbering, if it exists, will increment on the right page. You might have to fake the table numbering for your TOC by putting a titled empty table above the real one, and autonumber the real one with its own series label that is not used elsewhere, so as not to disrupt the numbering of other tables in the book. HTH, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3 Toronto, ON, Canada M1W 3K5 +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com
Random stray number
On 15/05/2012 3:01 PM, Steve Cavanaugh wrote: > FrameMaker 10, Windows 7 64 bit, all apps up to date. > > I am single-sourcing some content here (unstructured), and this issue is > driving me bug eyed. I am using a lot of text insets that have > numbering. I have two styles for numbering these - one that sets the > numbering to start at 1, and the other to increment the numbering. > > I keep the formatting of the text inset when I import to the main > document. For some reason Frame displays a brand new 1 after the end of > the numbered list, ONLY in the main document. I do not see it in the raw > text inset. I've added spaces, added lines with body styles - even tried > pulling all my hair out. Nothing seems to resolve this extraneous > number. > > There is a clue however - this number only EVER appears on the very last > page. I have 33 pages here, full of text insets with numbering. None > misbehaves except the very last one. Anyone have a hint? > > Richard Combs wrote a good post on insets a year ago that I quote below. I think it applies to your problem. (It may make a difference to insert the extra space *before* you import the inset and reposition your cursor ahead of the space; not sure myself.) = A text inset is something like an anchored frame or table. It sits in the flow as a zero-width object at the spot where you inserted it, i.e., the "container" paragraph. You can demonstrate this to yourself by putting the cursor at the end of the paragraph before the text inset and then pressing the right arrow key repeatedly. You'll see that a single key-press moves the cursor from just before the text inset to just after. Type some text after the inset, then triple-click somewhere in that text to select the entire paragraph. You'll see that the text inset, like the rest of the paragraph that contains it, is selected. Since the text inset source is a complete flow, it necessarily ends with a paragraph end. So the "extra" space is the result of two paragraph ends in a row: the end of the last paragraph in the text inset source and the end of the empty container paragraph into which you inserted it. [...] The original problem: A long-standing FM bug causes the paragraph containing a text inset to inherit the format of the first paragraph in the text inset source _if_ the text inset sits adjacent to the pilcrow (end-of-paragraph symbol) of the container paragraph. This is similar/related) to the bug that causes a paragraph override if you apply a character tag adjacent to the pilcrow. The solution to both is simple: separate the text inset or char tag from the pilcrow with a space or something. I prefer putting text insets in their own empty paragraphs (instead of at the beginning of whatever follows), so I always insert a non-breaking space between the end of the text inset and the end of the container paragraph. A regular space would work, but I prefer having a visible symbol there as confirmation (I always work with View > Text Symbols on and strongly encourage doing). I also use a dedicated paragraph format as the container for text insets, with size and spacing that works for me (i.e., introduces "extra" space that I've planned for and can live with). [R. Combs] -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3 Toronto, ON, Canada M1W 3K5 +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com
Archive all imported files
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Archive all imported files
[Resending because I *always* forget we're on an ancient listserv...] Hi, all; I'm wondering what ever happened to Bruce Foster's "Archive" tool for FM (v8). I am hunting around Carmen Publishing, Leximation, Techknowledgecorp's Handy FrameMaker tools page, and various other sites; and I can not seem to find it anywhere. We just want to open a book, click a menu item, and have it "package" the BOOK file and all of the FM, graphics, and text insets into a new folder or ZIP file, for purposes of archiving and "freezing" revisions (no, we don't have a CMS--got to do it all via folder/file operations). If Bruce's Archive isn't available anymore, what other options do we have? Seems like FrameScript could do it (of course) but I'm not sure if that's our simplest or most cost-effective option (i.e., we don't need "to pack a U-Haul for a weekend trip," so to speak). Suggestions? David
Random stray number
It seems I discovered that this is a longstanding bug in FrameMaker, as I found a solution on the Adobe forums that was developed for version 7.1. The bug is still there. If you import a text inset hard against the pilcrow, it automatically adds a paragraph after the inset. One that you cannot control. But if you import a text inset with a blank paragraph following it, everything is fine. Bizarre. Onward! Steve -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Steve Cavanaugh Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 12:02 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Random stray number FrameMaker 10, Windows 7 64 bit, all apps up to date. I am single-sourcing some content here (unstructured), and this issue is driving me bug eyed. I am using a lot of text insets that have numbering. I have two styles for numbering these - one that sets the numbering to start at 1, and the other to increment the numbering. I keep the formatting of the text inset when I import to the main document. For some reason Frame displays a brand new 1 after the end of the numbered list, ONLY in the main document. I do not see it in the raw text inset. I've added spaces, added lines with body styles - even tried pulling all my hair out. Nothing seems to resolve this extraneous number. There is a clue however - this number only EVER appears on the very last page. I have 33 pages here, full of text insets with numbering. None misbehaves except the very last one. Anyone have a hint? Steve Cavanaugh ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as steve.cavanaugh at coinstar.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/steve.cavanaugh%40co instar.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
utility to check that all heading names are unique?
I'm working with around a thousand pages here. That would not be practical. On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 10:34 AM, wrote: > You could use Special > List Of > Paragraphs (Alphabetical) for all your > headings (or repeated Lists, one heading at a time), and then scan through > them looking for duplicates.
utility to check that all heading names are unique?
EditPad Pro's my text editor of choice, never seen that feature. What's it called? On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 9:47 AM, Rick Quatro wrote: > You could generate a list of paragraphs, save it to a text file, and use a > text editor that can sort lines and show duplicates. I use EditPad Pro and > it can do this.
FrameMaker > Confluence 4.x?
Is anyone else working on exporting from FrameMaker to Confluence 4.x, or actually doing it using anything other than Confluence's Word import (which is slick but has some serious bugs) or WebWorks (which generates Confluence 3.x wiki markup rather than 4.x XHTML)?
