Store and reapply format overrides

[de Rouck, Tom (Gent)]

Hello all,

For a long time now I've been looking for a solution to archive Framemaker 7.2 
books with a lot of text insets, often inserted with a paragraph override on 
the anchor (e.g. top of column).
When I use the Archive book plugin all these overrides are lost.
So I was wondering if someone knows how to store overrides in a book and 
reapply them after archiving? Maybe with a script.
I've tried all other ways to archive books (Pack and Go script from itl, using 
higher Framemaker versions) but all of them fail (cross-references or overrides 
get lost).

Thanks for your ideas.

Kind regards,

Tom De Rouck
SGS Documentation Services
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Re: Using PDF for context-sensitive help

[Vikrant Rai]

Hi,

I don't really know the Framemaker angle here, but the following blog post can 
point you in the right direction on how it works on the PDF side.
See 
http://blogs.adobe.com/tcs/2011/01/tcs-specific/linking-to-a-page-within-a-pdf-and-more.html


Thanks,
Vikrant



 From: Harvey, Peggy peggy_har...@alliedtelesis.com
To: 'framers@lists.frameusers.com' framers@lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Thursday, 3 January 2013 11:08 PM
Subject: Using PDF for context-sensitive help
 

Hi,
 
I was wondering if anyone could help me with this. I’ve come into a situation 
where I need to maintain an online help system that uses a PDF document as the 
target. When you click a Help button in a dialog box it’s supposed to bring up 
a particular page (or go to a particular heading) in the PDF – not just open 
the PDF on page 1. Does anyone know how this might be done? The PDF is created 
from FrameMaker so I’m assuming there must be markers in the FrameMaker files 
somewhere but I can’t find them, or I’m not sure what to look for. The person 
who created this system isn’t here anymore so I’m trying to figure out what he 
did to make this work. When it worked the PDF was created from FrameMaker 7; 
I’m using FrameMaker 9. It appears all of the Help buttons in the product are 
broken now – they open up the PDF file I created in FM 9 but only to the first 
page, so they aren’t context-sensitive anymore. I don’t know if upgrading to FM 
9
 made a difference here or not.
 
I know using PDF for context-sensitive help isn’t ideal – that’s a different 
story.
 
Thanks for your help –
 
Peggy
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RE: RE: FrameMaker 10 does not start (licensing expired)

[Kapil Verma]

Dear Framers,

Thanks again for your patience as we worked through the issue and provided the 
patch to fix this problem. 

Just to summarize for everyone, there is a FM10 patch out that you should 
download and apply, which would fix this issue. The webpage which has the links 
to the patch describes in detail which of the 2 patches you should apply 
depending on your product/version. Please refer to the patch page here URL 
http://helpx.adobe.com/framemaker/kb/cant-launch-framemaker-10.html

Also, the link to the original blog post (summarizing the issue, our response 
and the various updates made) is here 
http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/2013/01/update-on-the-issue-of-framemaker-10-not-launching.html

Hope this summary information is helpful.  Wishing you all a great weekend!

Regards,
Kapil Verma
Sr. Product Manager - FrameMaker line of products


-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Craig Ede
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 9:36 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: RE: FrameMaker 10 does not start (licensing expired)

To display your Framemaker version number, start Framemaker 10, go to the Help 
menu item and click on About Framemaker. This works for a TCS 3 installation.

Note that if you can't start Framemaker due to the license expired message you 
may have to set your date back into 2012, but that would be a good sign you 
don't have the update.

Craig



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Using PDF for context-sensitive help

[VLM TechSubs]

There is a utility called Bookmark Docs, http://www.bookmarkdocs.com/. Just a 
thought.
Elchanan
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Harvey, Peggy
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 9:38 AM
To: 'framers@lists.frameusers.com'
Subject: Using PDF for context-sensitive help
 
Hi,
 
I was wondering if anyone could help me with this. I've come into a situation 
where I need to maintain an online help system that
uses a PDF document as the target. When you click a Help button in a dialog box 
it's supposed to bring up a particular page (or go
to a particular heading) in the PDF - not just open the PDF on page 1. Does 
anyone know how this might be done? The PDF is created
from FrameMaker so I'm assuming there must be markers in the FrameMaker files 
somewhere but I can't find them, or I'm not sure what
to look for. The person who created this system isn't here anymore so I'm 
trying to figure out what he did to make this work. When
it worked the PDF was created from FrameMaker 7; I'm using FrameMaker 9. It 
appears all of the Help buttons in the product are
broken now - they open up the PDF file I created in FM 9 but only to the first 
page, so they aren't context-sensitive anymore. I
don't know if upgrading to FM 9 made a difference here or not.
 
I know using PDF for context-sensitive help isn't ideal - that's a different 
story.
 
Thanks for your help -
 
Peggy
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Re: RE: FrameMaker 10 does not start (licensing expired)

[Böðvar Björgvinsson]

Hi Kapil,

Thanks for a quick response and the solution. It would be nice if all of
Adobe's responses were as quick and accurate as yours. :-)

Happy new year!

Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
Iceland





On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 9:21 AM, Kapil Verma kve...@adobe.com wrote:

 Dear Framers,

 Thanks again for your patience as we worked through the issue and provided
 the patch to fix this problem.

 Just to summarize for everyone, there is a FM10 patch out that you should
 download and apply, which would fix this issue. The webpage which has the
 links to the patch describes in detail which of the 2 patches you should
 apply depending on your product/version. Please refer to the patch page
 here URL
 http://helpx.adobe.com/framemaker/kb/cant-launch-framemaker-10.html

 Also, the link to the original blog post (summarizing the issue, our
 response and the various updates made) is here
 http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/2013/01/update-on-the-issue-of-framemaker-10-not-launching.html

 Hope this summary information is helpful.  Wishing you all a great weekend!

 Regards,
 Kapil Verma
 Sr. Product Manager - FrameMaker line of products


 -Original Message-
 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:
 framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Craig Ede
 Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 9:36 PM
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: RE: FrameMaker 10 does not start (licensing expired)

 To display your Framemaker version number, start Framemaker 10, go to the
 Help menu item and click on About Framemaker. This works for a TCS 3
 installation.

 Note that if you can't start Framemaker due to the license expired message
 you may have to set your date back into 2012, but that would be a good sign
 you don't have the update.

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Courier Std Problem

[Joel]

Hi folks,

I recently received a new work PC with Windows 7 and upgraded to Frame 11.
I have some text that uses Courier Std in its regular weight, but since my
upgrade, whenever I export to PDF, the results is Courier Std bold, not
regular, in the PDF.

Any thoughts on how to fix this? Thanks,

Joel
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Reposting fix for license problem in FM 10: no problems in keeper 11

[Rob Shell]

Hello everyone,
 
a quick update. there is an additional workaround that has been posted. We
have posted a utility which will do the suitable modification to make FM10
launch successfully. you can download the utility and how to run it, from
the original blog post
http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/2013/01/update-on-the-issue-of-framema
ker-10-not-launching.html. Please refer to this workaround on the blog post.
 
Please stay tuned for more updates
 
Thanks,
Kapil Verma




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Re: Sorting paragraphs

[Chris Despopoulos]

There's every reason to have this capability...  Create a bullet list and then 
sort it...  Add new entries and sort it again.  The work flow would be, select 
a range of pgfs, and execute teh sort.  Many times I have had to convert to 
table, sort, then un-table the table.  Even if it doesn't trash the xrefs, this 
work flow is a drag.  This request looks like a good candidate for a nifty 
ExtendScript.  Should not be too hard to accomplish.

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RE: Sorting paragraphs

[Craig Ede]

This sort of sorting action is especially necessary when dealing with 
translated documents that contained alphabetically sorted paragraphs in the 
source language.  Craig 
 Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2013 10:24:40 -0800
From: despopoulos_chr...@yahoo.com
There's every reason to have this capability...  Create a bullet list and then 
sort it...  Add new entries and sort it again.  The work flow would be, select 
a range of pgfs, and execute teh sort.  Many times I have had to convert to 
table, sort, then un-table the table.  Even if it doesn't trash the xrefs, this 
work flow is a drag.  This request looks like a good candidate for a nifty 
ExtendScript.  Should not be too hard to accomplish. cud
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converting giant tables to running text

[Robert Lauriston]

I inherited this document with a lot of stuff awkwardly formatted as
two-column tables that run on for 20 pages or more.

I want to convert those to running text with the left column as topic
headings and the right column as the following paragraphs.

I was thinking I would cut the table and paste it, convert to
paragraphs, replace the paragraph tags, and paste it back. Anybody
have a slicker way to do it?
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Re: Courier Std Problem

[Robert Lauriston]

Have you installed Courier Std on the new PC?

On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 7:13 AM, Joel eleys...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi folks,

 I recently received a new work PC with Windows 7 and upgraded to Frame 11. I
 have some text that uses Courier Std in its regular weight, but since my
 upgrade, whenever I export to PDF, the results is Courier Std bold, not
 regular, in the PDF.
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Re: Using PDF for context-sensitive help

[Robert Lauriston]

The PDF has to be generated with Enable Fast Web View on and the
links have to be to named destinations, for example:

http://www.adobe.com/content/dam/Adobe/en/devnet/acrobat/pdfs/pdf_open_parameters_v9.pdf#nameddest=G4.1500435

Also, if the PDF is on a server, it has to support byte serving.

On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Harvey, Peggy
peggy_har...@alliedtelesis.com wrote:
 I was wondering if anyone could help me with this. I’ve come into a
 situation where I need to maintain an online help system that uses a PDF
 document as the target. When you click a Help button in a dialog box it’s
 supposed to bring up a particular page (or go to a particular heading) in
 the PDF – not just open the PDF on page 1. Does anyone know how this might
 be done? The PDF is created from FrameMaker so I’m assuming there must be
 markers in the FrameMaker files somewhere but I can’t find them, or I’m not
 sure what to look for. The person who created this system isn’t here anymore
 so I’m trying to figure out what he did to make this work. When it worked
 the PDF was created from FrameMaker 7; I’m using FrameMaker 9. It appears
 all of the Help buttons in the product are broken now – they open up the PDF
 file I created in FM 9 but only to the first page, so they aren’t
 context-sensitive anymore. I don’t know if upgrading to FM 9 made a
 difference here or not.
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Re: Using PDF for context-sensitive help

[Johnson, Jennifer]

Hi Peggy,

 

We use the following pdfmark command to embed help IDs into Frame
documents. Placing the destinations into the PDF itself is not an option
for us because the document is translated into 14 languages so we have
to embed the named destinations into the source Framemaker document. 

 

[/Dest/Help111/DEST pdfmark

 

Help111 is the dialog ID and named destination. There is no right
bracket.

 

Create the line of code in a text frame within an anchored frame and
position it on the page that you want the pdf to open to when the user
presses the help button. 

 

Select the text frame, then choose Graphics  Object Properties and
select the PostScript Code check box. You won't be able to edit the code
once you tag it as PostScript, but you can turn the tag on and off.

 

Acrobat processes the codes into named destinations only when you print
to PDF. Save as PDF will not work. After you print to PDF, open your
PDF, then open the Destinations panel (you may have to select a View
option to have Acrobat display the Destinations panel  - a target icon
that appears below the bookmark icon). You will see many auto-generated
destinations there, sorted alphabetically, and be able to locate the
named destinations you created in Frame. 

 

Hope this helps. 

Jennifer

 

 

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Re: Using PDF for context-sensitive help

[Robert Lauriston]

If this was working with FrameMaker 7 and is not working with
FrameMaker 9, the problem is with your PDF settings. You shouldn't
need to install anything or change the FrameMaker source.

When saving as PDF, make sure that on the Links tab you have Create
Named Destinations for All Paragraphs checked.

After saving, open the PDF in Acrobat and make sure that Enable Fast
Web View is Yes.

http://help.adobe.com/en_US/acrobat/pro/using/WS58a04a822e3e50102bd615109794195ff-7f52.w.html

On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote:
 The PDF has to be generated with Enable Fast Web View on and the
 links have to be to named destinations, for example:

 http://www.adobe.com/content/dam/Adobe/en/devnet/acrobat/pdfs/pdf_open_parameters_v9.pdf#nameddest=G4.1500435

 Also, if the PDF is on a server, it has to support byte serving.

 On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Harvey, Peggy
 peggy_har...@alliedtelesis.com wrote:
 I was wondering if anyone could help me with this. I’ve come into a
 situation where I need to maintain an online help system that uses a PDF
 document as the target. When you click a Help button in a dialog box it’s
 supposed to bring up a particular page (or go to a particular heading) in
 the PDF – not just open the PDF on page 1. Does anyone know how this might
 be done? The PDF is created from FrameMaker so I’m assuming there must be
 markers in the FrameMaker files somewhere but I can’t find them, or I’m not
 sure what to look for. The person who created this system isn’t here anymore
 so I’m trying to figure out what he did to make this work. When it worked
 the PDF was created from FrameMaker 7; I’m using FrameMaker 9. It appears
 all of the Help buttons in the product are broken now – they open up the PDF
 file I created in FM 9 but only to the first page, so they aren’t
 context-sensitive anymore. I don’t know if upgrading to FM 9 made a
 difference here or not.
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Re: converting giant tables to running text

[Stuart Rogers]

On 04/01/2013 1:38 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote:

I inherited this document with a lot of stuff awkwardly formatted as
two-column tables that run on for 20 pages or more.

I want to convert those to running text with the left column as topic
headings and the right column as the following paragraphs.

I was thinking I would cut the table and paste it, convert to
paragraphs, replace the paragraph tags, and paste it back. Anybody
have a slicker way to do it?
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I'm not sure why you would do all that cutting and pasting.

You can select the left column and apply your heading pgf tag to all the 
cells; select the right column and apply the body pgf tag to all the 
cells.  Then select the table and Table  Convert to Text, Row by Row.


HTH,

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Re: converting giant tables to running text

[MamaRed Knight]

One thing I would do before following Stuart Rogers wonderful advice is to
apply the correct paragraph style to each column BEFORE converting to
text...could save you some time doing the formatting.

On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.comwrote:

 I inherited this document with a lot of stuff awkwardly formatted as
 two-column tables that run on for 20 pages or more.

 I want to convert those to running text with the left column as topic
 headings and the right column as the following paragraphs.

 I was thinking I would cut the table and paste it, convert to
 paragraphs, replace the paragraph tags, and paste it back. Anybody
 have a slicker way to do it?
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Re: converting giant tables to running text

[Stuart Rogers]

On 04/01/2013 3:26 PM, MamaRed Knight wrote:

One thing I would do before following Stuart Rogers wonderful advice is
to apply the correct paragraph style to each column BEFORE converting to
text...could save you some time doing the formatting.



Um...  I think that *was* my wonderful advice  ;-)


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RE: Using PDF for context-sensitive help

[Rick Quatro]

This is one of the benefits of TimeSavers: you can use pdfmark commands in
FrameMaker using markers instead of PostScript text frames. This avoids the
anchored frames and text frames. I have used and supported TimeSavers for
years and it is well worth the money.

 

You could go further and automate the insertion of the TimeSavers markers.
For example, if you had a spreadsheet of headings and help IDs, you could
use FrameScript (or ExtendScript with FrameMaker 10 or higher) to read the
spreadsheet and insert the IDs in the correct locations in your FrameMaker
document or book. This would make the whole process pretty seamless. Please
let me know if you have any questions or comments. Thank you very much.

 

Rick

 

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Carmen Publishing Inc.

585-283-5045

r...@frameexpert.com

 

 

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Johnson, Jennifer
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 2:31 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Using PDF for context-sensitive help

 

Hi Peggy,

 

We use the following pdfmark command to embed help IDs into Frame documents.
Placing the destinations into the PDF itself is not an option for us because
the document is translated into 14 languages so we have to embed the named
destinations into the source Framemaker document. 

 

[/Dest/Help111/DEST pdfmark

 

Help111 is the dialog ID and named destination. There is no right bracket.

 

Create the line of code in a text frame within an anchored frame and
position it on the page that you want the pdf to open to when the user
presses the help button. 

 

Select the text frame, then choose Graphics  Object Properties and select
the PostScript Code check box. You won't be able to edit the code once you
tag it as PostScript, but you can turn the tag on and off.

 

Acrobat processes the codes into named destinations only when you print to
PDF. Save as PDF will not work. After you print to PDF, open your PDF, then
open the Destinations panel (you may have to select a View option to have
Acrobat display the Destinations panel  - a target icon that appears below
the bookmark icon). You will see many auto-generated destinations there,
sorted alphabetically, and be able to locate the named destinations you
created in Frame. 

 

Hope this helps. 

Jennifer

 

 

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Store and reapply format overrides

[de Rouck, Tom (Gent)]

Hello all,

For a long time now I've been looking for a solution to archive Framemaker 7.2 
books with a lot of text insets, often inserted with a paragraph override on 
the anchor (e.g. top of column).
When I use the Archive book plugin all these overrides are lost.
So I was wondering if someone knows how to store overrides in a book and 
reapply them after archiving? Maybe with a script.
I've tried all other ways to archive books (Pack and Go script from itl, using 
higher Framemaker versions) but all of them fail (cross-references or overrides 
get lost).

Thanks for your ideas.

Kind regards,

Tom De Rouck
SGS Documentation Services
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Using PDF for context-sensitive help

[Vikrant Rai]

Hi,

I don't really know the Framemaker angle here, but the following blog post can 
point you in the right direction on how it works on the PDF side.
See?http://blogs.adobe.com/tcs/2011/01/tcs-specific/linking-to-a-page-within-a-pdf-and-more.html


Thanks,
Vikrant



 From: "Harvey, Peggy" 
To: "'framers at lists.frameusers.com'"  
Sent: Thursday, 3 January 2013 11:08 PM
Subject: Using PDF for context-sensitive help


Hi,
?
I was wondering if anyone could help me with this. I?ve come into a situation 
where I need to maintain an online help system that uses a PDF document as the 
target. When you click a Help button in a dialog box it?s supposed to bring up 
a particular page (or go to a particular heading) in the PDF ? not just open 
the PDF on page 1. Does anyone know how this might be done? The PDF is created 
from FrameMaker so I?m assuming there must be markers in the FrameMaker files 
somewhere but I can?t find them, or I?m not sure what to look for. The person 
who created this system isn?t here anymore so I?m trying to figure out what he 
did to make this work. When it worked the PDF was created from FrameMaker 7; 
I?m using FrameMaker 9. It appears all of the Help buttons in the product are 
broken now ? they open up the PDF file I created in FM 9 but only to the first 
page, so they aren?t context-sensitive anymore. I don?t know if upgrading to FM 
9
 made a difference here or not.
?
I know using PDF for context-sensitive help isn?t ideal ? that?s a different 
story.
?
Thanks for your help ?
?
Peggy
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FrameMaker 10 does not start ("licensing expired")

[Kapil Verma]

Dear Framers,

Thanks again for your patience as we worked through the issue and provided the 
patch to fix this problem. 

Just to summarize for everyone, there is a FM10 patch out that you should 
download and apply, which would fix this issue. The webpage which has the links 
to the patch describes in detail which of the 2 patches you should apply 
depending on your product/version. Please refer to the patch page here URL 
http://helpx.adobe.com/framemaker/kb/cant-launch-framemaker-10.html

Also, the link to the original blog post (summarizing the issue, our response 
and the various updates made) is here 
http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/2013/01/update-on-the-issue-of-framemaker-10-not-launching.html

Hope this summary information is helpful.  Wishing you all a great weekend!

Regards,
Kapil Verma
Sr. Product Manager - FrameMaker line of products


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From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Craig Ede
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 9:36 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: RE: FrameMaker 10 does not start ("licensing expired")

To display your Framemaker version number, start Framemaker 10, go to the Help 
menu item and click on About Framemaker. This works for a TCS 3 installation.

Note that if you can't start Framemaker due to the license expired message you 
may have to set your date back into 2012, but that would be a good sign you 
don't have the update.

Craig



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Using PDF for context-sensitive help

[ob...@me.com]

Install and set up the Timesavers plugin.

Embed your screen help IDs in the relevant places in your Frame file.  They 
must be the same help ID for the the relevant screen in the app.

When you make your PDF directly from frame, the plugin will keep acrobat from 
changing your help IDs.  

Your developlers will have to code the app so that a help call will use the 
help ID in the screen to call the PDF file and the right help ID  "Named 
Destination".

I and the software folks at a former job set this up.  Works beautifully.

best,
Paul

On D?ardaoin, 3 Ean?ir, 2013, at 09:38, "Harvey, Peggy"  wrote:

> Hi,
>  
> I was wondering if anyone could help me with this. I?ve come into a situation 
> where I need to maintain an online help system that uses a PDF document as 
> the target. When you click a Help button in a dialog box it?s supposed to 
> bring up a particular page (or go to a particular heading) in the PDF ? not 
> just open the PDF on page 1. Does anyone know how this might be done? The PDF 
> is created from FrameMaker so I?m assuming there must be markers in the 
> FrameMaker files somewhere but I can?t find them, or I?m not sure what to 
> look for. The person who created this system isn?t here anymore so I?m trying 
> to figure out what he did to make this work. When it worked the PDF was 
> created from FrameMaker 7; I?m using FrameMaker 9. It appears all of the Help 
> buttons in the product are broken now ? they open up the PDF file I created 
> in FM 9 but only to the first page, so they aren?t context-sensitive anymore. 
> I don?t know if upgrading to FM 9 made a difference here or not.
>  
> I know using PDF for context-sensitive help isn?t ideal ? that?s a different 
> story.
>  
> Thanks for your help ?
>  
> Peggy
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Using PDF for context-sensitive help

[VLM TechSubs]

There is a utility called "Bookmark Docs", http://www.bookmarkdocs.com/. Just a 
thought.
Elchanan
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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Harvey, Peggy
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 9:38 AM
To: 'framers at lists.frameusers.com'
Subject: Using PDF for context-sensitive help

Hi,

I was wondering if anyone could help me with this. I've come into a situation 
where I need to maintain an online help system that
uses a PDF document as the target. When you click a Help button in a dialog box 
it's supposed to bring up a particular page (or go
to a particular heading) in the PDF - not just open the PDF on page 1. Does 
anyone know how this might be done? The PDF is created
from FrameMaker so I'm assuming there must be markers in the FrameMaker files 
somewhere but I can't find them, or I'm not sure what
to look for. The person who created this system isn't here anymore so I'm 
trying to figure out what he did to make this work. When
it worked the PDF was created from FrameMaker 7; I'm using FrameMaker 9. It 
appears all of the Help buttons in the product are
broken now - they open up the PDF file I created in FM 9 but only to the first 
page, so they aren't context-sensitive anymore. I
don't know if upgrading to FM 9 made a difference here or not.

I know using PDF for context-sensitive help isn't ideal - that's a different 
story.

Thanks for your help -

Peggy
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Courier Std Problem

[Joel]

Hi folks,

I recently received a new work PC with Windows 7 and upgraded to Frame 11.
I have some text that uses Courier Std in its regular weight, but since my
upgrade, whenever I export to PDF, the results is Courier Std bold, not
regular, in the PDF.

Any thoughts on how to fix this? Thanks,

Joel
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Reposting fix for license problem in FM 10: no problems in "keeper 11"

[Rob Shell]

Hello everyone,

a quick update. there is an additional workaround that has been posted. We
have posted a utility which will do the suitable modification to make FM10
launch successfully. you can download the utility and how to run it, from
the original blog post
http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/2013/01/update-on-the-issue-of-framema
ker-10-not-launching.html. Please refer to this workaround on the blog post.

Please stay tuned for more updates

Thanks,
Kapil Verma

Sorting paragraphs

[Chris Despopoulos]

There's every reason to have this capability...? Create a bullet list and then 
sort it...? Add new entries and sort it again.? The work flow would be, select 
a range of pgfs, and execute teh sort.? Many times I have had to convert to 
table, sort, then un-table the table.? Even if it doesn't trash the xrefs, this 
work flow is a drag.? This request looks like a good candidate for a nifty 
ExtendScript.? Should not be too hard to accomplish.

cud
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Sorting paragraphs

[Craig Ede]

This sort of sorting action is especially necessary when dealing with 
translated documents that contained alphabetically sorted paragraphs in the 
source language.  Craig 
 Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2013 10:24:40 -0800
From: despopoulos_chr...@yahoo.com
There's every reason to have this capability...  Create a bullet list and then 
sort it...  Add new entries and sort it again.  The work flow would be, select 
a range of pgfs, and execute teh sort.  Many times I have had to convert to 
table, sort, then un-table the table.  Even if it doesn't trash the xrefs, this 
work flow is a drag.  This request looks like a good candidate for a nifty 
ExtendScript.  Should not be too hard to accomplish. cud

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converting giant tables to running text

[Robert Lauriston]

I inherited this document with a lot of stuff awkwardly formatted as
two-column tables that run on for 20 pages or more.

I want to convert those to running text with the left column as topic
headings and the right column as the following paragraphs.

I was thinking I would cut the table and paste it, convert to
paragraphs, replace the paragraph tags, and paste it back. Anybody
have a slicker way to do it?

Courier Std Problem

[Robert Lauriston]

Have you installed Courier Std on the new PC?

On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 7:13 AM, Joel  wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I recently received a new work PC with Windows 7 and upgraded to Frame 11. I
> have some text that uses Courier Std in its regular weight, but since my
> upgrade, whenever I export to PDF, the results is Courier Std bold, not
> regular, in the PDF.

Using PDF for context-sensitive help

[Robert Lauriston]

The PDF has to be generated with "Enable Fast Web View" on and the
links have to be to named destinations, for example:

http://www.adobe.com/content/dam/Adobe/en/devnet/acrobat/pdfs/pdf_open_parameters_v9.pdf#nameddest=G4.1500435

Also, if the PDF is on a server, it has to support byte serving.

On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Harvey, Peggy
 wrote:
> I was wondering if anyone could help me with this. I?ve come into a
> situation where I need to maintain an online help system that uses a PDF
> document as the target. When you click a Help button in a dialog box it?s
> supposed to bring up a particular page (or go to a particular heading) in
> the PDF ? not just open the PDF on page 1. Does anyone know how this might
> be done? The PDF is created from FrameMaker so I?m assuming there must be
> markers in the FrameMaker files somewhere but I can?t find them, or I?m not
> sure what to look for. The person who created this system isn?t here anymore
> so I?m trying to figure out what he did to make this work. When it worked
> the PDF was created from FrameMaker 7; I?m using FrameMaker 9. It appears
> all of the Help buttons in the product are broken now ? they open up the PDF
> file I created in FM 9 but only to the first page, so they aren?t
> context-sensitive anymore. I don?t know if upgrading to FM 9 made a
> difference here or not.

Using PDF for context-sensitive help

[Johnson, Jennifer]

Hi Peggy,



We use the following pdfmark command to embed help IDs into Frame
documents. Placing the destinations into the PDF itself is not an option
for us because the document is translated into 14 languages so we have
to embed the named destinations into the source Framemaker document. 



[/Dest/Help111/DEST pdfmark



Help111 is the dialog ID and named destination. There is no right
bracket.



Create the line of code in a text frame within an anchored frame and
position it on the page that you want the pdf to open to when the user
presses the help button. 



Select the text frame, then choose Graphics > Object Properties and
select the PostScript Code check box. You won't be able to edit the code
once you tag it as PostScript, but you can turn the tag on and off.



Acrobat processes the codes into named destinations only when you print
to PDF. Save as PDF will not work. After you print to PDF, open your
PDF, then open the Destinations panel (you may have to select a View
option to have Acrobat display the Destinations panel  - a target icon
that appears below the bookmark icon). You will see many auto-generated
destinations there, sorted alphabetically, and be able to locate the
named destinations you created in Frame. 



Hope this helps. 

Jennifer





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[Robert Lauriston]

If this was working with FrameMaker 7 and is not working with
FrameMaker 9, the problem is with your PDF settings. You shouldn't
need to install anything or change the FrameMaker source.

When saving as PDF, make sure that on the Links tab you have Create
Named Destinations for All Paragraphs checked.

After saving, open the PDF in Acrobat and make sure that Enable Fast
Web View is Yes.

http://help.adobe.com/en_US/acrobat/pro/using/WS58a04a822e3e50102bd615109794195ff-7f52.w.html

On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Robert Lauriston  
wrote:
> The PDF has to be generated with "Enable Fast Web View" on and the
> links have to be to named destinations, for example:
>
> http://www.adobe.com/content/dam/Adobe/en/devnet/acrobat/pdfs/pdf_open_parameters_v9.pdf#nameddest=G4.1500435
>
> Also, if the PDF is on a server, it has to support byte serving.
>
> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Harvey, Peggy
>  wrote:
>> I was wondering if anyone could help me with this. I?ve come into a
>> situation where I need to maintain an online help system that uses a PDF
>> document as the target. When you click a Help button in a dialog box it?s
>> supposed to bring up a particular page (or go to a particular heading) in
>> the PDF ? not just open the PDF on page 1. Does anyone know how this might
>> be done? The PDF is created from FrameMaker so I?m assuming there must be
>> markers in the FrameMaker files somewhere but I can?t find them, or I?m not
>> sure what to look for. The person who created this system isn?t here anymore
>> so I?m trying to figure out what he did to make this work. When it worked
>> the PDF was created from FrameMaker 7; I?m using FrameMaker 9. It appears
>> all of the Help buttons in the product are broken now ? they open up the PDF
>> file I created in FM 9 but only to the first page, so they aren?t
>> context-sensitive anymore. I don?t know if upgrading to FM 9 made a
>> difference here or not.

converting giant tables to running text

[Stuart Rogers]

On 04/01/2013 1:38 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote:
> I inherited this document with a lot of stuff awkwardly formatted as
> two-column tables that run on for 20 pages or more.
>
> I want to convert those to running text with the left column as topic
> headings and the right column as the following paragraphs.
>
> I was thinking I would cut the table and paste it, convert to
> paragraphs, replace the paragraph tags, and paste it back. Anybody
> have a slicker way to do it?
> ___
>
>

I'm not sure why you would do all that cutting and pasting.

You can select the left column and apply your heading pgf tag to all the 
cells; select the right column and apply the body pgf tag to all the 
cells.  Then select the table and Table > Convert to Text, Row by Row.

HTH,

-- 
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Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com

converting giant tables to running text

[MamaRed Knight]

One thing I would do before following Stuart Rogers wonderful advice is to
apply the correct paragraph style to each column BEFORE converting to
text...could save you some time doing the formatting.

On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote:

> I inherited this document with a lot of stuff awkwardly formatted as
> two-column tables that run on for 20 pages or more.
>
> I want to convert those to running text with the left column as topic
> headings and the right column as the following paragraphs.
>
> I was thinking I would cut the table and paste it, convert to
> paragraphs, replace the paragraph tags, and paste it back. Anybody
> have a slicker way to do it?
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converting giant tables to running text

[Stuart Rogers]

On 04/01/2013 3:26 PM, MamaRed Knight wrote:
> One thing I would do before following Stuart Rogers wonderful advice is
> to apply the correct paragraph style to each column BEFORE converting to
> text...could save you some time doing the formatting.


Um...  I think that *was* my wonderful advice  ;-)


-- 
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Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

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Using PDF for context-sensitive help

[Rick Quatro]

This is one of the benefits of TimeSavers: you can use pdfmark commands in
FrameMaker using markers instead of PostScript text frames. This avoids the
anchored frames and text frames. I have used and supported TimeSavers for
years and it is well worth the money.



You could go further and automate the insertion of the TimeSavers markers.
For example, if you had a spreadsheet of headings and help IDs, you could
use FrameScript (or ExtendScript with FrameMaker 10 or higher) to read the
spreadsheet and insert the IDs in the correct locations in your FrameMaker
document or book. This would make the whole process pretty seamless. Please
let me know if you have any questions or comments. Thank you very much.



Rick



Rick Quatro

Carmen Publishing Inc.

585-283-5045

rick at frameexpert.com





From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Johnson, Jennifer
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 2:31 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Using PDF for context-sensitive help



Hi Peggy,



We use the following pdfmark command to embed help IDs into Frame documents.
Placing the destinations into the PDF itself is not an option for us because
the document is translated into 14 languages so we have to embed the named
destinations into the source Framemaker document. 



[/Dest/Help111/DEST pdfmark



Help111 is the dialog ID and named destination. There is no right bracket.



Create the line of code in a text frame within an anchored frame and
position it on the page that you want the pdf to open to when the user
presses the help button. 



Select the text frame, then choose Graphics > Object Properties and select
the PostScript Code check box. You won't be able to edit the code once you
tag it as PostScript, but you can turn the tag on and off.



Acrobat processes the codes into named destinations only when you print to
PDF. Save as PDF will not work. After you print to PDF, open your PDF, then
open the Destinations panel (you may have to select a View option to have
Acrobat display the Destinations panel  - a target icon that appears below
the bookmark icon). You will see many auto-generated destinations there,
sorted alphabetically, and be able to locate the named destinations you
created in Frame. 



Hope this helps. 

Jennifer





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Using PDF for context-sensitive help

[Robert Lauriston]

I believe that pdfmark text frame approach was an old kludge to work
around the lack of a direct way to specify a named destination in
FrameMaker.

Current best practice is to insert a Hypertext marker with the Specify
Named Destination (newlink ) option.

Jennifer's source was apparently generating named destinations in
FrameMaker 7, so she should not have to do anything to make it work
with FrameMaker 9 other than adjust her PDF settings.

On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Johnson, Jennifer
 wrote:
> We use the following pdfmark command to embed help IDs into Frame documents.
> Placing the destinations into the PDF itself is not an option for us because
> the document is translated into 14 languages so we have to embed the named
> destinations into the source Framemaker document.
>
> [/Dest/Help111/DEST pdfmark
>
> Help111 is the dialog ID and named destination. There is no right bracket.
>
> Create the line of code in a text frame within an anchored frame and
> position it on the page that you want the pdf to open to when the user
> presses the help button. ...

converting giant tables to running text

[Robert Lauriston]

I guess I didn't provide enough detail. I'm working in a scratch file
because while the left column is all headings, some of the cells in
the right column include multiple paragraphs with different tags.

On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Stuart Rogers
 wrote:
> I'm not sure why you would do all that cutting and pasting.
>
> You can select the left column and apply your heading pgf tag to all the
> cells; select the right column and apply the body pgf tag to all the cells.
> Then select the table and Table > Convert to Text, Row by Row.

Using PDF for context-sensitive help

[Johnson, Jennifer]

Hi Robert,

We tried that and the named destination came through as
M8.newlink.helpid. We could find no good way to scrub the "M8.newlink."
out of the named destination without a 3rd party tool.

Jennifer 



-Original Message-
From: robert.lauriston at gmail.com [mailto:robert.lauris...@gmail.com] On
Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 3:20 PM
To: Johnson, Jennifer; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Using PDF for context-sensitive help

I believe that pdfmark text frame approach was an old kludge to work
around the lack of a direct way to specify a named destination in
FrameMaker.

Current best practice is to insert a Hypertext marker with the Specify
Named Destination (newlink ) option.

Jennifer's source was apparently generating named destinations in
FrameMaker 7, so she should not have to do anything to make it work with
FrameMaker 9 other than adjust her PDF settings.

On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Johnson, Jennifer
 wrote:
> We use the following pdfmark command to embed help IDs into Frame
documents.
> Placing the destinations into the PDF itself is not an option for us 
> because the document is translated into 14 languages so we have to 
> embed the named destinations into the source Framemaker document.
>
> [/Dest/Help111/DEST pdfmark
>
> Help111 is the dialog ID and named destination. There is no right
bracket.
>
> Create the line of code in a text frame within an anchored frame and 
> position it on the page that you want the pdf to open to when the user

> presses the help button. ...

Using PDF for context-sensitive help

[Robert Lauriston]

D'oh! I forgot I had the same issue:

http://forums.adobe.com/thread/316277

Are the help targets defined in FrameMaker using named destinations?

On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Johnson, Jennifer
 wrote:
> Hi Robert,
>
> We tried that and the named destination came through as
> M8.newlink.helpid. We could find no good way to scrub the "M8.newlink."
> out of the named destination without a 3rd party tool.

Making IETMs using Frame possible?

[Ben Allums]

On 12/22/2012 10:18 PM, Apurva Bahadur wrote:
> Dear Framers,
>
> Can Framemaker/Robohelp create Interactive Electronic Technical Manuals
> (IETM - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IETM)?
>
> Looking at the Wikipedia document, the Type 1, class 1, 2 and 3 should
> certainly be possible with Frame/Robohelp.
>
> Anyone with experience in authoring IETMs? Any other tools that you
> suggest for IETM authoring?

DISCLAIMER: I work for WebWorks.

Apurva,

As you point out, Frame+RoboHelp can get you to class 1, 2, and 3.  You 
can also get their via other tools, such as WebWorks ePublisher.  One 
example is our own documentation set:

   

This is created from FrameMaker source files.

There are other products available, so perhaps you should evaluate each 
one in turn and find the best fit tool for your needs.


Ben Allums
allums at webworks.com
512-381-8885

Using PDF for context-sensitive help

[Harvey, Peggy]

Thanks to everyone who responded to my request to solve this mystery. I figured 
it was probably done with named destinations somehow but I've searched the 
files and I can't find any evidence of the necessary links - no hypertext 
markers or pdfmark text boxes. I looked at the Destinations panel in a a PDF 
where this worked as Jennifer suggested (thanks for that tip!) and I see the 
auto-generated destinations but not any that look like they were manually 
created for help button links.

Ultimately, I plan to create an HTML-based online help system for the product 
that will be easier to maintain in the long run. In the meantime it looks like 
the PDF problem will remain a mystery for now.

Thanks again,

Peggy

From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Harvey, Peggy
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 12:38 PM
To: 'framers at lists.frameusers.com'
Subject: Using PDF for context-sensitive help

Hi,

I was wondering if anyone could help me with this. I've come into a situation 
where I need to maintain an online help system that uses a PDF document as the 
target. When you click a Help button in a dialog box it's supposed to bring up 
a particular page (or go to a particular heading) in the PDF - not just open 
the PDF on page 1. Does anyone know how this might be done? The PDF is created 
from FrameMaker so I'm assuming there must be markers in the FrameMaker files 
somewhere but I can't find them, or I'm not sure what to look for. The person 
who created this system isn't here anymore so I'm trying to figure out what he 
did to make this work. When it worked the PDF was created from FrameMaker 7; 
I'm using FrameMaker 9. It appears all of the Help buttons in the product are 
broken now - they open up the PDF file I created in FM 9 but only to the first 
page, so they aren't context-sensitive anymore. I don't know if upgrading to FM 
9 made a difference here or not.

I know using PDF for context-sensitive help isn't ideal - that's a different 
story.

Thanks for your help -

Peggy
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Using PDF for context-sensitive help

[Robert Lauriston]

Peggy, what do the help target markers look like in FrameMaker? I'm
thinking maybe your predecessor had TimeSavers installed. The marker
text syntax could indicate whether that's the case.

On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Rick Quatro  wrote:
> This is one of the benefits of TimeSavers: you can use pdfmark commands in
> FrameMaker using markers instead of PostScript text frames. This avoids the
> anchored frames and text frames. I have used and supported TimeSavers for
> years and it is well worth the money.]