BookMifWash

[Mike Wickham]

With the FrameMaker 10 version of BookMIFWash, the documentation is 
ridiculously hidden in the fm_bookmifwash.c file. Use a text editor to 
view the file and you will find this at the beginning:

//
/* */
/* ADOBE SYSTEMS INCORPORATED */
/* Copyright 1986 - 2010 Adobe Systems Incorporated */
/* All Rights Reserved */
/* */
/* NOTICE: Adobe permits you to use, modify, and distribute this */
/* file in accordance with the terms of the Adobe license agreement */
/* accompanying it. If you have received this file from a source */
/* other than Adobe, then your use, modification, or distribution */
/* of it requires the prior written permission of Adobe. */
/* */
//
/*The client will add a new Menu ?Book Utilities when the books is in 
the current focus.
This Menu option will have following two sub-menus:
- Book MIF Wash: MIF Wash the book components. Before continuing the 
operation the
client will prompt the user to make a backup copy of the file set as the 
files
in the book will be overwritten after MIF wash operation. The client 
will then
open the files in book one by one, saving them as MIFs and also saving 
them back
to fm file format at the same time.
- Open all Book Components (Suppress Warnings): Open all components in 
the book with
suppressed warnings and alert messages. User would not need to click on 
missing
fonts, missing graphics and other such alerts while opening the documents.

//
/*
* -
* To Register your client with the FrameMaker product.
* -
* The FrameMaker product needs to know about your client to initialize 
it. To let the FrameMaker product know about this client, you must make 
some changes to the environment under which the client runs.
* 1. Copy the attached dll to FrameMaker 10\fminit folder in the Program 
Files installation directory.
* 2. Open maker.ini file in the FrameMaker 10 directory. Add the 
following lines to the [APIClients] section of the maker.ini file:
* MIFwash=Standard, MIF Wash, fminit\BookComponentMIFWash.dll, all

* Note: This is the format for the maker.ini client entry.
* ClientName=ClientType, description, path, mode
* ClientName is the name that the FrameMaker product and other clients 
use to reference your client. ClientType specifies your client type: for 
example, Standard, DocReport, or TextImport. description is a string 
describing your client. path is the pathname of your client?s DLL. mode 
determines what product interfaces your client supports?can be one of 
all, maker, or structured.

* 3. Launch FrameMaker 10. To verify that the client has been registered 
successfully open a new book. A menu bar with ?Book MIF Wash? name 
should get added.
*/

Mike Wickham

On 5/28/2013 1:21 PM, Judy Bragg wrote:
> I understand that Framemaker 11 comes with several Scripts/Utilities, 
> one of which is BookMIFWash. I'm interested in seeing how this works, 
> but I haven't been able to find any documentation on it

Master pages' Room for Side Heads not being honoured

[Mark Lehmann]

I have a book file containing all the usual suspects: a front matter 
file, TOC, LOF and LOT files, assorted chapter and appendix files, an IX 
(index) file and an end file. [FM10, Win7 SP3]
I've created two master pages, Right_Index and Left_Index, and applied 
them to the appropriate pages in the IX file. The two IX master pages 
differ from the main Left and Right master pages in that they have Room 
for Side Heads un-ticked and Columns = 2, so that the IX pages are all 
2-column with no room for sideheads (duh).
I've propagated these two master pages to all other files in the book, 
and the IX pages look correct.
So far, so good.

But . . .
After I import Page Layouts into the IX file from another file in the 
book, the IX pages all have Room for Side Heads ticked!
Checking the IX file shows that Right_Index and Left_Index master pages 
are correctly applied, and they correctly show Room for Side Heads = off 
. . . but the document pages now all have Room for Side Heads = on. (And 
if I open master pages then go back to document pages, I'm NOT warned 
about overrides.)
But behold, there's more: if I manually set Room for Side Heads = off 
for the main text frame on the first page of the IX file, ALL pages in 
the file come good.

Any ideas what's going on?
How can I fix things so that I don't have to remember to do this manual 
tweak?

Cheers,
Mark Lehmann

Feature Request - Print to File Warning

[Shmuel Wolfson]

I personal request for the Adobe FrameMaker development team:

When I print to file (which I do when I make a PDF) then I later change 
to a different printer to print out a hard copy, the preference of Print 
to File remains unless I clear the checkbox. This is very annoying. I 
end up printing things to the office printer and walking to the printer 
only then to realize that I forgot to clear the Print to File checkbox.

Since the majority of the time people are not printing to a file 
(especially when they are changing the printer often), could you please 
add a warning that "Print to File is selected" when someone changes the 
printer?

When Print to File is not selected and the printer is changed, I don't 
think it is not necessary to have a warning that "Print to File is not 
selected," and I think it would be rather annoying. So please do not add 
a warning in this case.

Thanks!

-- 
Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
052-763-7133

Feature Request - Print to File Warning

[Craig Ede]

Yep, I do save specific job option files.

I think I was focusing (in error) on the SaveAs PDF option rather than the
Print Book option you were describing. My mistake.

Craig

-Original Message-
From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.co...@polycom.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 10:39 AM
To: craigede at hotmail.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Feature Request - Print to File Warning

Craig Ede wrote:

> There are times when quite specific Distiller job options are required 
> by clients who may be providing the resulting PDF to service bureaus, 
> etc. This makes printing from .ps files more desirable than simple 
> direct printing to PDF.

In the Print Book dialog box, click PDF Setup. On the Settings tab of the
dialog box, set PDF Job Options to the job options file you want to use. 

You do create and save .joboptions files for the specific Distiller job
options required by your clients, right? 

Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
303-903-6372
--

Re: BookMifWash

[Mike Wickham]

With the FrameMaker 10 version of BookMIFWash, the documentation is 
ridiculously hidden in the fm_bookmifwash.c file. Use a text editor to 
view the file and you will find this at the beginning:


//
/* */
/* ADOBE SYSTEMS INCORPORATED */
/* Copyright 1986 - 2010 Adobe Systems Incorporated */
/* All Rights Reserved */
/* */
/* NOTICE: Adobe permits you to use, modify, and distribute this */
/* file in accordance with the terms of the Adobe license agreement */
/* accompanying it. If you have received this file from a source */
/* other than Adobe, then your use, modification, or distribution */
/* of it requires the prior written permission of Adobe. */
/* */
//
/*The client will add a new Menu –Book Utilities when the books is in 
the current focus.

This Menu option will have following two sub-menus:
- Book MIF Wash: MIF Wash the book components. Before continuing the 
operation the
client will prompt the user to make a backup copy of the file set as the 
files
in the book will be overwritten after MIF wash operation. The client 
will then
open the files in book one by one, saving them as MIFs and also saving 
them back

to fm file format at the same time.
- Open all Book Components (Suppress Warnings): Open all components in 
the book with
suppressed warnings and alert messages. User would not need to click on 
missing

fonts, missing graphics and other such alerts while opening the documents.

//
/*
* -
* To Register your client with the FrameMaker product.
* -
* The FrameMaker product needs to know about your client to initialize 
it. To let the FrameMaker product know about this client, you must make 
some changes to the environment under which the client runs.
* 1. Copy the attached dll to FrameMaker 10\fminit folder in the Program 
Files installation directory.
* 2. Open maker.ini file in the FrameMaker 10 directory. Add the 
following lines to the [APIClients] section of the maker.ini file:

* MIFwash=Standard, MIF Wash, fminit\BookComponentMIFWash.dll, all

* Note: This is the format for the maker.ini client entry.
* ClientName=ClientType, description, path, mode
* ClientName is the name that the FrameMaker product and other clients 
use to reference your client. ClientType specifies your client type: for 
example, Standard, DocReport, or TextImport. description is a string 
describing your client. path is the pathname of your client’s DLL. mode 
determines what product interfaces your client supports—can be one of 
all, maker, or structured.


* 3. Launch FrameMaker 10. To verify that the client has been registered 
successfully open a new book. A menu bar with “Book MIF Wash” name 
should get added.

*/

Mike Wickham

On 5/28/2013 1:21 PM, Judy Bragg wrote:
I understand that Framemaker 11 comes with several Scripts/Utilities, 
one of which is BookMIFWash. I'm interested in seeing how this works, 
but I haven't been able to find any documentation on it


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Anyone know of an FM to TeX "converter"

[Jeremy H. Griffith]

On Tue, 28 May 2013 13:57:12 -0700, "Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at 
aeris.net)"  wrote:

>Interesting! They have a MIF to LaTeX converter ... if the original FM 
>document used their la_temp templates ...
>
>I will have to see how much work might be involved in using the la_temp 
>templates to change my existing FM files ...

Before you get too far into it, note this statement on the
home page:

==
The testbed for these programs was FrameMaker version 3.2 
on NEXTSTEP 3.3/OPENSTEP 4.2 (the latest version for this 
platform). The programs may work on a wider variety of 
FrameMaker versions and platforms. 
==

But I wouldn't count on it.  There were some major changes
in 4.0 that pretty much wiped earlier templates, when the
text flows were separated from the master pages...  ;-)

We've had maybe five requests for LaTEX... in the last ten
years.  Not exactly huge demand.  But you might see what
you could do with our "Generic XML" output, which can be
tweaked to produce plain text and probably many more
non-XML formats.

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
  http://mif2go.com/

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Feature Request - Print to File Warning

[Bethany Lee]

Richard, thanks:

"Second, it's a bad idea to keep changing printers from Adobe PDF to a physical 
printer and back again, which generally causes the available fonts to change, 
potentially affecting the formatting and pagination of the document."

I had not considered this one (though, I don't think I encountered that). Also, 
I guess I usually do print from my PDFs and recently switched over to doing a 
save as PDF anyways. It occurs to me that I was seconding the idea based on 
memory of how it used to be for me. :-)

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Combs, Richard
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 10:39 AM
To: Shmuel Wolfson; Framers
Subject: RE: Feature Request - Print to File Warning

I strongly suggest that you reconsider your workflow instead. First, there is 
no reason to print to file in order to create a PDF. If you're using a very old 
version of FM or are still superstitious about using Save As PDF, simply select 
Adobe PDF as your printer and leave Print to File turned off. You'll be 
prompted to choose a file name and location, and your PDF will be created 
directly by the same process as if you'd printed to a PostScript file and then 
distilled it. 

Second, it's a bad idea to keep changing printers from Adobe PDF to a physical 
printer and back again, which generally causes the available fonts to change, 
potentially affecting the formatting and pagination of the document. 

If you're creating PDFs, print the PDFs, not the FM files. I recommend 
installing the SetPrint plugin from sundorne.com, which makes Adobe PDF your 
default printer in FM regardless of what you default printer is in Windows. 

Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
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Feature Request - Print to File Warning

[Bethany Lee]

I second that request! It's 45 steps to my office printer (one way) and very 
annoying indeed if I forgot to clear the print to file.

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 10:20 AM
To: Framers
Subject: Feature Request - Print to File Warning

I personal request for the Adobe FrameMaker development team:

When I print to file (which I do when I make a PDF) then I later change 
to a different printer to print out a hard copy, the preference of Print 
to File remains unless I clear the checkbox. This is very annoying. I 
end up printing things to the office printer and walking to the printer 
only then to realize that I forgot to clear the Print to File checkbox.

Since the majority of the time people are not printing to a file 
(especially when they are changing the printer often), could you please 
add a warning that "Print to File is selected" when someone changes the 
printer?

When Print to File is not selected and the printer is changed, I don't 
think it is not necessary to have a warning that "Print to File is not 
selected," and I think it would be rather annoying. So please do not add 
a warning in this case.

Thanks!

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Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
052-763-7133


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RE: Anyone know of an FM to TeX "converter"

[Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)]

Ah, good input!

I will test thoroughly and see what happens ...

Thanks, Jeremy.

Z

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy H. Griffith
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 2:12 PM
To: 'framers@lists.frameusers.com'
Subject: Re: Anyone know of an FM to TeX "converter"

On Tue, 28 May 2013 13:57:12 -0700, "Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)" 
 wrote:

>Interesting! They have a MIF to LaTeX converter ... if the original FM 
>document used their la_temp templates ...
>
>I will have to see how much work might be involved in using the la_temp 
>templates to change my existing FM files ...

Before you get too far into it, note this statement on the home page:

==
The testbed for these programs was FrameMaker version 3.2 on NEXTSTEP 
3.3/OPENSTEP 4.2 (the latest version for this platform). The programs may work 
on a wider variety of FrameMaker versions and platforms. 
==

But I wouldn't count on it.  There were some major changes in 4.0 that pretty 
much wiped earlier templates, when the text flows were separated from the 
master pages...  ;-)

We've had maybe five requests for LaTEX... in the last ten years.  Not exactly 
huge demand.  But you might see what you could do with our "Generic XML" 
output, which can be tweaked to produce plain text and probably many more 
non-XML formats.

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
  http://mif2go.com/
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Anyone know of an FM to TeX "converter"

[Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)]

Ah, good input!

I will test thoroughly and see what happens ...

Thanks, Jeremy.

Z

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy H. Griffith
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 2:12 PM
To: 'framers at lists.frameusers.com'
Subject: Re: Anyone know of an FM to TeX "converter"

On Tue, 28 May 2013 13:57:12 -0700, "Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at 
aeris.net)"  wrote:

>Interesting! They have a MIF to LaTeX converter ... if the original FM 
>document used their la_temp templates ...
>
>I will have to see how much work might be involved in using the la_temp 
>templates to change my existing FM files ...

Before you get too far into it, note this statement on the home page:

==
The testbed for these programs was FrameMaker version 3.2 on NEXTSTEP 
3.3/OPENSTEP 4.2 (the latest version for this platform). The programs may work 
on a wider variety of FrameMaker versions and platforms. 
==

But I wouldn't count on it.  There were some major changes in 4.0 that pretty 
much wiped earlier templates, when the text flows were separated from the 
master pages...  ;-)

We've had maybe five requests for LaTEX... in the last ten years.  Not exactly 
huge demand.  But you might see what you could do with our "Generic XML" 
output, which can be tweaked to produce plain text and probably many more 
non-XML formats.

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
  http://mif2go.com/
___

RE: Anyone know of an FM to TeX "converter"

[Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)]

Thanks, Alan!

You have mentioned one thing that will indeed be _relatively_ (I hope) easy for 
me. Most of my FrameMaker documents are long specifications and documents, 
where I was careful to use a template to get similar look and feel. Yes, the 
template has evolved over time, but it should not be too painful to conform 
even older documents to them without _too_ much work - whenever I updated a 
spec, I would update it to the new template regardless!

So, I am hoping that converting to the la_temp templates from that site you and 
David pointed me to _may_ also work fine. If I can apply those templates 
consistently, and get the "same as if I had done the documents in LaTeX in the 
first place" outcome, then that is perfectly fine with me, even if the PDF 
output looks very different from what I currently have in my documents! At 
least, I will be in a _new_ consistent format place. :)

Of course, this needs a lot of testing!

For my remaining FrameMaker files that are not consistent specs, and have very 
different look and feel in general, I suspect I will just convert them to Word 
- most of them are fairly short.

Once I can get my non-spec FrameMaker documents over to Word reasonably cleanly 
(maybe a purchase of Mif2Go will be necessary!), then I think that I will be 
quite comfortable in the future.

And, then, Adobe's recent upgrade price gouging, and their push to 
cloud-controlled tools, will be non-events for me then, fortunately!

By the way, my recent tests of Microsoft Word 2013, in preparation for getting 
rid of FrameMaker permanently, have been surprisingly decent - much better than 
my way earlier frustrations with it. My latest white paper was written entirely 
in Word last week - almost 30 pages long - and it is looking very good. No 
funny crashes, oddball behavior (that I could not change/control), etc. And the 
PDF from it is excellent, including with hyperlinks.

Z

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Alan T Litchfield
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 2:01 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Anyone know of an FM to TeX "converter"

There have been the la_mml templates and stuff around for a while: 
http://www.cs.stir.ac.uk/~kjt/software/framemaker/

I think a better approach (depending upon how many unique FM functions and 
formats you require) might be to export the text to rtf or xml and take that 
into a LaTeX environment. If you use XML, you might want to consider xelatex 
because it has better support for UTF8.
http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsi&id=xetex

rtf2latex2e has been around a while now and does a reasonable job of converting 
to LaTeX, but of course, you will need to manually fix tables and such. There 
is always a certain amount of cleaning up required.
http://rtf2latex2e.sourceforge.net/

The biggest issue (always the case) is the large number of possible 
combinations of style and format in the source document and how these are to be 
translated through a common filter. This is where any of the scripted solutions 
tend to have their weak points. If, however, you are anything like me and tend 
to use similarly named styles and formats over the years, then using named 
output formats for conversion is made simpler. That may mean changing the 
scripts to suit.

The beauty of TeX and friends is that there are virtually unlimited options 
available when defining and redefining macros. For the unwary, that is also its 
downside. That means too, that a lot (and I mean a
lottt) can be scripted if automation is desired.

So, if you have a large number of files that need conversion and they are 
somewhat similar in style. You might want to consider creating a batch process 
to dump all the files out as text and then run them all through a conversion 
filter. After that, you have look for anomalies as d/required.

Alan

On 29/05/13 8:27 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) wrote:
> Hi, all.
>
> As the subject says ... a MIF (or binary-FM) to TeX would be a good tool!
>
> LaTeX would be far more useful, but I suspect that getting a clean fit from 
> _any_ given FM file to templates in LaTeX might be difficult. Getting the 
> output "close enough" would be workable, as long as I could tweak the output 
> files to make them work out well in LaTeX.
>
> In my search to reduce my dependency on FrameMaker (because of the recent 
> Adobe pricing and cloud decisions), I am hoping to change my 17+ years of 
> FrameMaker files to another format. I  have used LaTeX in the distant past, 
> and for 90% of my specifications written in FrameMaker, it would be a 
> completely workable solution! The remaining ones could be moved to Word.
>
> Z
>
> P.S.: Jeremy (hoping you are reading this e-mail), does Mif2Go perhaps 
> support output in TeX? Or any possible plans to do so?
>
> ___
>
>
> You are currently subscribed 

Anyone know of an FM to TeX "converter"

[Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)]

Thanks, Alan!

You have mentioned one thing that will indeed be _relatively_ (I hope) easy for 
me. Most of my FrameMaker documents are long specifications and documents, 
where I was careful to use a template to get similar look and feel. Yes, the 
template has evolved over time, but it should not be too painful to conform 
even older documents to them without _too_ much work - whenever I updated a 
spec, I would update it to the new template regardless!

So, I am hoping that converting to the la_temp templates from that site you and 
David pointed me to _may_ also work fine. If I can apply those templates 
consistently, and get the "same as if I had done the documents in LaTeX in the 
first place" outcome, then that is perfectly fine with me, even if the PDF 
output looks very different from what I currently have in my documents! At 
least, I will be in a _new_ consistent format place. :)

Of course, this needs a lot of testing!

For my remaining FrameMaker files that are not consistent specs, and have very 
different look and feel in general, I suspect I will just convert them to Word 
- most of them are fairly short.

Once I can get my non-spec FrameMaker documents over to Word reasonably cleanly 
(maybe a purchase of Mif2Go will be necessary!), then I think that I will be 
quite comfortable in the future.

And, then, Adobe's recent upgrade price gouging, and their push to 
cloud-controlled tools, will be non-events for me then, fortunately!

By the way, my recent tests of Microsoft Word 2013, in preparation for getting 
rid of FrameMaker permanently, have been surprisingly decent - much better than 
my way earlier frustrations with it. My latest white paper was written entirely 
in Word last week - almost 30 pages long - and it is looking very good. No 
funny crashes, oddball behavior (that I could not change/control), etc. And the 
PDF from it is excellent, including with hyperlinks.

Z

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Alan T Litchfield
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 2:01 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Anyone know of an FM to TeX "converter"

There have been the la_mml templates and stuff around for a while: 
http://www.cs.stir.ac.uk/~kjt/software/framemaker/

I think a better approach (depending upon how many unique FM functions and 
formats you require) might be to export the text to rtf or xml and take that 
into a LaTeX environment. If you use XML, you might want to consider xelatex 
because it has better support for UTF8.
http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsi&id=xetex

rtf2latex2e has been around a while now and does a reasonable job of converting 
to LaTeX, but of course, you will need to manually fix tables and such. There 
is always a certain amount of cleaning up required.
http://rtf2latex2e.sourceforge.net/

The biggest issue (always the case) is the large number of possible 
combinations of style and format in the source document and how these are to be 
translated through a common filter. This is where any of the scripted solutions 
tend to have their weak points. If, however, you are anything like me and tend 
to use similarly named styles and formats over the years, then using named 
output formats for conversion is made simpler. That may mean changing the 
scripts to suit.

The beauty of TeX and friends is that there are virtually unlimited options 
available when defining and redefining macros. For the unwary, that is also its 
downside. That means too, that a lot (and I mean a
lottt) can be scripted if automation is desired.

So, if you have a large number of files that need conversion and they are 
somewhat similar in style. You might want to consider creating a batch process 
to dump all the files out as text and then run them all through a conversion 
filter. After that, you have look for anomalies as d/required.

Alan

On 29/05/13 8:27 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net) wrote:
> Hi, all.
>
> As the subject says ... a MIF (or binary-FM) to TeX would be a good tool!
>
> LaTeX would be far more useful, but I suspect that getting a clean fit from 
> _any_ given FM file to templates in LaTeX might be difficult. Getting the 
> output "close enough" would be workable, as long as I could tweak the output 
> files to make them work out well in LaTeX.
>
> In my search to reduce my dependency on FrameMaker (because of the recent 
> Adobe pricing and cloud decisions), I am hoping to change my 17+ years of 
> FrameMaker files to another format. I  have used LaTeX in the distant past, 
> and for 90% of my specifications written in FrameMaker, it would be a 
> completely workable solution! The remaining ones could be moved to Word.
>
> Z
>
> P.S.: Jeremy (hoping you are reading this e-mail), does Mif2Go perhaps 
> support output in TeX? Or any possible plans to do so?
>
> ___
>
>
> You are currently su

BookMifWash

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I understand that Framemaker 11 comes with several Scripts/Utilities, 
one of which is BookMIFWash.  I'm interested in seeing how this works, 
but I haven't been able to find any documentation on it and when I 
attempt to run a script, the program is looking for a javascript file. 
Neither file in the C:\Program Files 
(x86)\Adobe\AdobeFrameMaker11\Samples\ScriptsAndUtilities\BookMIFWash 
folder are javascript files.

Can anyone out there please explain what the process is or point me 
toward documentation?

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Re: Anyone know of an FM to TeX "converter"

[Jeremy H. Griffith]

On Tue, 28 May 2013 13:57:12 -0700, "Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)" 
 wrote:

>Interesting! They have a MIF to LaTeX converter ... if the original FM 
>document used their la_temp templates ...
>
>I will have to see how much work might be involved in using the la_temp 
>templates to change my existing FM files ...

Before you get too far into it, note this statement on the
home page:

==
The testbed for these programs was FrameMaker version 3.2 
on NEXTSTEP 3.3/OPENSTEP 4.2 (the latest version for this 
platform). The programs may work on a wider variety of 
FrameMaker versions and platforms. 
==

But I wouldn't count on it.  There were some major changes
in 4.0 that pretty much wiped earlier templates, when the
text flows were separated from the master pages...  ;-)

We've had maybe five requests for LaTEX... in the last ten
years.  Not exactly huge demand.  But you might see what
you could do with our "Generic XML" output, which can be
tweaked to produce plain text and probably many more
non-XML formats.

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Re: Anyone know of an FM to TeX "converter"

[Alan T Litchfield]

There have been the la_mml templates and stuff around for a while: 
http://www.cs.stir.ac.uk/~kjt/software/framemaker/


I think a better approach (depending upon how many unique FM functions 
and formats you require) might be to export the text to rtf or xml and 
take that into a LaTeX environment. If you use XML, you might want to 
consider xelatex because it has better support for UTF8.

http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsi&id=xetex

rtf2latex2e has been around a while now and does a reasonable job of 
converting to LaTeX, but of course, you will need to manually fix tables 
and such. There is always a certain amount of cleaning up required.

http://rtf2latex2e.sourceforge.net/

The biggest issue (always the case) is the large number of possible 
combinations of style and format in the source document and how these 
are to be translated through a common filter. This is where any of the 
scripted solutions tend to have their weak points. If, however, you are 
anything like me and tend to use similarly named styles and formats over 
the years, then using named output formats for conversion is made 
simpler. That may mean changing the scripts to suit.


The beauty of TeX and friends is that there are virtually unlimited 
options available when defining and redefining macros. For the unwary, 
that is also its downside. That means too, that a lot (and I mean a 
lottt) can be scripted if automation is desired.


So, if you have a large number of files that need conversion and they 
are somewhat similar in style. You might want to consider creating a 
batch process to dump all the files out as text and then run them all 
through a conversion filter. After that, you have look for anomalies as 
d/required.


Alan

On 29/05/13 8:27 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) wrote:

Hi, all.

As the subject says ... a MIF (or binary-FM) to TeX would be a good tool!

LaTeX would be far more useful, but I suspect that getting a clean fit from _any_ given 
FM file to templates in LaTeX might be difficult. Getting the output "close 
enough" would be workable, as long as I could tweak the output files to make them 
work out well in LaTeX.

In my search to reduce my dependency on FrameMaker (because of the recent Adobe 
pricing and cloud decisions), I am hoping to change my 17+ years of FrameMaker 
files to another format. I  have used LaTeX in the distant past, and for 90% of 
my specifications written in FrameMaker, it would be a completely workable 
solution! The remaining ones could be moved to Word.

Z

P.S.: Jeremy (hoping you are reading this e-mail), does Mif2Go perhaps support 
output in TeX? Or any possible plans to do so?

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RE: Anyone know of an FM to TeX "converter"

[Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)]

Interesting! They have a MIF to LaTeX converter ... if the original FM document 
used their la_temp templates ...

I will have to see how much work might be involved in using the la_temp 
templates to change my existing FM files ...

Thanks again, David!

Z

From: Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 1:48 PM
To: David Spreadbury; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Anyone know of an FM to TeX "converter"

Thanks much, David. I will take a look ... I should have thunk to search first, 
but was hoping someone here already knew the answer. :)

Z

From: David Spreadbury [mailto:dspre...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 1:47 PM
To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net); 
framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Anyone know of an FM to TeX "converter"

A little more searching found this link 
http://www.cs.stir.ac.uk/~kjt/software/framemaker/.
Maybe something there can help.



From: David Spreadbury mailto:dspre...@yahoo.com>>
To: "Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)" 
mailto:syed.hos...@aeris.net>>; 
"framers@lists.frameusers.com" 
mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 3:41 PM
Subject: Re: Anyone know of an FM to TeX "converter"

Syed,
If you do a search for "convert to LaTeX" you will find several ways listed, 
but none from raw FrameMaker. But, there are ways to convert Word or RTF to 
LaTex, as well as HTML to LaTex. Not the cleanest I am sure, but maybe 
possible. Frame -> Word or RTF -- Word/RTF -> LaTeX??



From: "Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)" 
mailto:syed.hos...@aeris.net>>
To: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" 
mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 3:27 PM
Subject: Anyone know of an FM to TeX "converter"

Hi, all.

As the subject says ... a MIF (or binary-FM) to TeX would be a good tool!

LaTeX would be far more useful, but I suspect that getting a clean fit from 
_any_ given FM file to templates in LaTeX might be difficult. Getting the 
output "close enough" would be workable, as long as I could tweak the output 
files to make them work out well in LaTeX.

In my search to reduce my dependency on FrameMaker (because of the recent Adobe 
pricing and cloud decisions), I am hoping to change my 17+ years of FrameMaker 
files to another format. I  have used LaTeX in the distant past, and for 90% of 
my specifications written in FrameMaker, it would be a completely workable 
solution! The remaining ones could be moved to Word.

Z

P.S.: Jeremy (hoping you are reading this e-mail), does Mif2Go perhaps support 
output in TeX? Or any possible plans to do so?

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Anyone know of an FM to TeX "converter"

[Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)]

Interesting! They have a MIF to LaTeX converter ... if the original FM document 
used their la_temp templates ...

I will have to see how much work might be involved in using the la_temp 
templates to change my existing FM files ...

Thanks again, David!

Z

From: Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 1:48 PM
To: David Spreadbury; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Anyone know of an FM to TeX "converter"

Thanks much, David. I will take a look ... I should have thunk to search first, 
but was hoping someone here already knew the answer. :)

Z

From: David Spreadbury [mailto:dspre...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 1:47 PM
To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net<mailto:Syed.Hosain at 
aeris.net>); framers at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers at 
lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Re: Anyone know of an FM to TeX "converter"

A little more searching found this link 
http://www.cs.stir.ac.uk/~kjt/software/framemaker/.
Maybe something there can help.



From: David Spreadbury mailto:dspre...@yahoo.com>>
To: "Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net<mailto:Syed.Hosain at 
aeris.net>)" mailto:Syed.Hosain at aeris.net>>; 
"framers at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com>" 
mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 3:41 PM
Subject: Re: Anyone know of an FM to TeX "converter"

Syed,
If you do a search for "convert to LaTeX" you will find several ways listed, 
but none from raw FrameMaker. But, there are ways to convert Word or RTF to 
LaTex, as well as HTML to LaTex. Not the cleanest I am sure, but maybe 
possible. Frame -> Word or RTF -- Word/RTF -> LaTeX??



From: "Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net<mailto:Syed.Hosain at 
aeris.net>)" mailto:syed.hos...@aeris.net>>
To: "framers at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com>" 
mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 3:27 PM
Subject: Anyone know of an FM to TeX "converter"

Hi, all.

As the subject says ... a MIF (or binary-FM) to TeX would be a good tool!

LaTeX would be far more useful, but I suspect that getting a clean fit from 
_any_ given FM file to templates in LaTeX might be difficult. Getting the 
output "close enough" would be workable, as long as I could tweak the output 
files to make them work out well in LaTeX.

In my search to reduce my dependency on FrameMaker (because of the recent Adobe 
pricing and cloud decisions), I am hoping to change my 17+ years of FrameMaker 
files to another format. I  have used LaTeX in the distant past, and for 90% of 
my specifications written in FrameMaker, it would be a completely workable 
solution! The remaining ones could be moved to Word.

Z

P.S.: Jeremy (hoping you are reading this e-mail), does Mif2Go perhaps support 
output in TeX? Or any possible plans to do so?

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RE: Anyone know of an FM to TeX "converter"

[Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)]

Thanks much, David. I will take a look ... I should have thunk to search first, 
but was hoping someone here already knew the answer. :)

Z

From: David Spreadbury [mailto:dspre...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 1:47 PM
To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net); framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Anyone know of an FM to TeX "converter"

A little more searching found this link 
http://www.cs.stir.ac.uk/~kjt/software/framemaker/.
Maybe something there can help.



From: David Spreadbury mailto:dspre...@yahoo.com>>
To: "Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)" 
mailto:syed.hos...@aeris.net>>; 
"framers@lists.frameusers.com" 
mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 3:41 PM
Subject: Re: Anyone know of an FM to TeX "converter"

Syed,
If you do a search for "convert to LaTeX" you will find several ways listed, 
but none from raw FrameMaker. But, there are ways to convert Word or RTF to 
LaTex, as well as HTML to LaTex. Not the cleanest I am sure, but maybe 
possible. Frame -> Word or RTF -- Word/RTF -> LaTeX??



From: "Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)" 
mailto:syed.hos...@aeris.net>>
To: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" 
mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 3:27 PM
Subject: Anyone know of an FM to TeX "converter"

Hi, all.

As the subject says ... a MIF (or binary-FM) to TeX would be a good tool!

LaTeX would be far more useful, but I suspect that getting a clean fit from 
_any_ given FM file to templates in LaTeX might be difficult. Getting the 
output "close enough" would be workable, as long as I could tweak the output 
files to make them work out well in LaTeX.

In my search to reduce my dependency on FrameMaker (because of the recent Adobe 
pricing and cloud decisions), I am hoping to change my 17+ years of FrameMaker 
files to another format. I  have used LaTeX in the distant past, and for 90% of 
my specifications written in FrameMaker, it would be a completely workable 
solution! The remaining ones could be moved to Word.

Z

P.S.: Jeremy (hoping you are reading this e-mail), does Mif2Go perhaps support 
output in TeX? Or any possible plans to do so?

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Anyone know of an FM to TeX "converter"

[Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)]

Thanks much, David. I will take a look ... I should have thunk to search first, 
but was hoping someone here already knew the answer. :)

Z

From: David Spreadbury [mailto:dspre...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 1:47 PM
To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net); framers at 
lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Anyone know of an FM to TeX "converter"

A little more searching found this link 
http://www.cs.stir.ac.uk/~kjt/software/framemaker/.
Maybe something there can help.



From: David Spreadbury mailto:dspre...@yahoo.com>>
To: "Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net<mailto:Syed.Hosain at 
aeris.net>)" mailto:Syed.Hosain at aeris.net>>; 
"framers at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com>" 
mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 3:41 PM
Subject: Re: Anyone know of an FM to TeX "converter"

Syed,
If you do a search for "convert to LaTeX" you will find several ways listed, 
but none from raw FrameMaker. But, there are ways to convert Word or RTF to 
LaTex, as well as HTML to LaTex. Not the cleanest I am sure, but maybe 
possible. Frame -> Word or RTF -- Word/RTF -> LaTeX??



From: "Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net<mailto:Syed.Hosain at 
aeris.net>)" mailto:syed.hos...@aeris.net>>
To: "framers at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com>" 
mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 3:27 PM
Subject: Anyone know of an FM to TeX "converter"

Hi, all.

As the subject says ... a MIF (or binary-FM) to TeX would be a good tool!

LaTeX would be far more useful, but I suspect that getting a clean fit from 
_any_ given FM file to templates in LaTeX might be difficult. Getting the 
output "close enough" would be workable, as long as I could tweak the output 
files to make them work out well in LaTeX.

In my search to reduce my dependency on FrameMaker (because of the recent Adobe 
pricing and cloud decisions), I am hoping to change my 17+ years of FrameMaker 
files to another format. I  have used LaTeX in the distant past, and for 90% of 
my specifications written in FrameMaker, it would be a completely workable 
solution! The remaining ones could be moved to Word.

Z

P.S.: Jeremy (hoping you are reading this e-mail), does Mif2Go perhaps support 
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[David Spreadbury]

A little more searching found this link 
http://www.cs.stir.ac.uk/~kjt/software/framemaker/.
Maybe something there can help.





 From: David Spreadbury 
To: "Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)" ; 
"framers@lists.frameusers.com"  
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 3:41 PM
Subject: Re: Anyone know of an FM to TeX "converter"
 


Syed,
If you do a search for "convert to LaTeX" you will find several ways listed, 
but none from raw FrameMaker. But, there are ways to convert Word or RTF to 
LaTex, as well as HTML to LaTex. Not the cleanest I am sure, but maybe 
possible. Frame -> Word or RTF -- Word/RTF -> LaTeX??





 From: "Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)" 
To: "framers@lists.frameusers.com"  
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 3:27 PM
Subject: Anyone know of an FM to TeX "converter"
 

Hi, all.

As the subject says ... a MIF (or binary-FM) to TeX would be a good tool!

LaTeX would be far more useful, but I suspect that getting a clean fit from 
_any_ given FM file to templates in LaTeX might be difficult. Getting the 
output "close enough" would be workable, as long as I could tweak the output 
files to make them work out well in LaTeX.

In my search to reduce my dependency on FrameMaker (because of the recent Adobe 
pricing and cloud decisions), I am hoping to change my 17+ years of FrameMaker 
files to another format. I  have used LaTeX in the distant past, and for 90% of 
my specifications written in FrameMaker, it would be a completely workable 
solution! The remaining ones could be moved to
 Word.

Z

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[David Spreadbury]

A little more searching found this link 
http://www.cs.stir.ac.uk/~kjt/software/framemaker/.
Maybe something there can help.





 From: David Spreadbury 
To: "Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net)" ; 
"framers at lists.frameusers.com"  
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 3:41 PM
Subject: Re: Anyone know of an FM to TeX "converter"



Syed,
If you do a search for "convert to LaTeX" you will find several ways listed, 
but none from raw FrameMaker. But, there are ways to convert Word or RTF to 
LaTex, as well as HTML to LaTex. Not the cleanest I am sure, but maybe 
possible. Frame -> Word or RTF -- Word/RTF -> LaTeX??





 From: "Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net)" 
To: "framers at lists.frameusers.com"  
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 3:27 PM
Subject: Anyone know of an FM to TeX "converter"


Hi, all.

As the subject says ... a MIF (or binary-FM) to TeX would be a good tool!

LaTeX would be far more useful, but I suspect that getting a clean fit from 
_any_ given FM file to templates in LaTeX might be difficult. Getting the 
output "close enough" would be workable, as long as I could tweak the output 
files to make them work out well in LaTeX.

In my search to reduce my dependency on FrameMaker (because of the recent Adobe 
pricing and cloud decisions), I am hoping to change my 17+ years of FrameMaker 
files to another format. I? have used LaTeX in the distant past, and for 90% of 
my specifications written in FrameMaker, it would be a completely workable 
solution! The remaining ones could be moved to
 Word.

Z

P.S.: Jeremy (hoping you are reading this e-mail), does Mif2Go perhaps support 
output in TeX? Or any possible plans to do so? 

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Re: Anyone know of an FM to TeX "converter"

[David Spreadbury]

Syed,
If you do a search for "convert to LaTeX" you will find several ways listed, 
but none from raw FrameMaker. But, there are ways to convert Word or RTF to 
LaTex, as well as HTML to LaTex. Not the cleanest I am sure, but maybe 
possible. Frame -> Word or RTF -- Word/RTF -> LaTeX??





 From: "Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)" 
To: "framers@lists.frameusers.com"  
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 3:27 PM
Subject: Anyone know of an FM to TeX "converter"
 

Hi, all.

As the subject says ... a MIF (or binary-FM) to TeX would be a good tool!

LaTeX would be far more useful, but I suspect that getting a clean fit from 
_any_ given FM file to templates in LaTeX might be difficult. Getting the 
output "close enough" would be workable, as long as I could tweak the output 
files to make them work out well in LaTeX.

In my search to reduce my dependency on FrameMaker (because of the recent Adobe 
pricing and cloud decisions), I am hoping to change my 17+ years of FrameMaker 
files to another format. I  have used LaTeX in the distant past, and for 90% of 
my specifications written in FrameMaker, it would be a completely workable 
solution! The remaining ones could be moved to Word.

Z

P.S.: Jeremy (hoping you are reading this e-mail), does Mif2Go perhaps support 
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Anyone know of an FM to TeX "converter"

[David Spreadbury]

Syed,
If you do a search for "convert to LaTeX" you will find several ways listed, 
but none from raw FrameMaker. But, there are ways to convert Word or RTF to 
LaTex, as well as HTML to LaTex. Not the cleanest I am sure, but maybe 
possible. Frame -> Word or RTF -- Word/RTF -> LaTeX??





 From: "Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net)" 
To: "framers at lists.frameusers.com"  
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 3:27 PM
Subject: Anyone know of an FM to TeX "converter"


Hi, all.

As the subject says ... a MIF (or binary-FM) to TeX would be a good tool!

LaTeX would be far more useful, but I suspect that getting a clean fit from 
_any_ given FM file to templates in LaTeX might be difficult. Getting the 
output "close enough" would be workable, as long as I could tweak the output 
files to make them work out well in LaTeX.

In my search to reduce my dependency on FrameMaker (because of the recent Adobe 
pricing and cloud decisions), I am hoping to change my 17+ years of FrameMaker 
files to another format. I? have used LaTeX in the distant past, and for 90% of 
my specifications written in FrameMaker, it would be a completely workable 
solution! The remaining ones could be moved to Word.

Z

P.S.: Jeremy (hoping you are reading this e-mail), does Mif2Go perhaps support 
output in TeX? Or any possible plans to do so? 

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Anyone know of an FM to TeX "converter"

[Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)]

Hi, all.

As the subject says ... a MIF (or binary-FM) to TeX would be a good tool!

LaTeX would be far more useful, but I suspect that getting a clean fit from 
_any_ given FM file to templates in LaTeX might be difficult. Getting the 
output "close enough" would be workable, as long as I could tweak the output 
files to make them work out well in LaTeX.

In my search to reduce my dependency on FrameMaker (because of the recent Adobe 
pricing and cloud decisions), I am hoping to change my 17+ years of FrameMaker 
files to another format. I  have used LaTeX in the distant past, and for 90% of 
my specifications written in FrameMaker, it would be a completely workable 
solution! The remaining ones could be moved to Word.

Z

P.S.: Jeremy (hoping you are reading this e-mail), does Mif2Go perhaps support 
output in TeX? Or any possible plans to do so? 

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Anyone know of an FM to TeX "converter"

[Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)]

Hi, all.

As the subject says ... a MIF (or binary-FM) to TeX would be a good tool!

LaTeX would be far more useful, but I suspect that getting a clean fit from 
_any_ given FM file to templates in LaTeX might be difficult. Getting the 
output "close enough" would be workable, as long as I could tweak the output 
files to make them work out well in LaTeX.

In my search to reduce my dependency on FrameMaker (because of the recent Adobe 
pricing and cloud decisions), I am hoping to change my 17+ years of FrameMaker 
files to another format. I  have used LaTeX in the distant past, and for 90% of 
my specifications written in FrameMaker, it would be a completely workable 
solution! The remaining ones could be moved to Word.

Z

P.S.: Jeremy (hoping you are reading this e-mail), does Mif2Go perhaps support 
output in TeX? Or any possible plans to do so? 

BookMifWash

[Judy Bragg]

I understand that Framemaker 11 comes with several Scripts/Utilities, 
one of which is BookMIFWash.  I'm interested in seeing how this works, 
but I haven't been able to find any documentation on it and when I 
attempt to run a script, the program is looking for a javascript file. 
Neither file in the C:\Program Files 
(x86)\Adobe\AdobeFrameMaker11\Samples\ScriptsAndUtilities\BookMIFWash 
folder are javascript files.


Can anyone out there please explain what the process is or point me 
toward documentation?


Thanks so much,

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Feature Request - Print to File Warning

[Jeff Coatsworth]

I'd use this site to bring this to their attention - 
https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform 

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson
Sent: May-28-13 10:20 AM
To: Framers
Subject: Feature Request - Print to File Warning

I personal request for the Adobe FrameMaker development team:

When I print to file (which I do when I make a PDF) then I later change 
to a different printer to print out a hard copy, the preference of Print 
to File remains unless I clear the checkbox. This is very annoying. I 
end up printing things to the office printer and walking to the printer 
only then to realize that I forgot to clear the Print to File checkbox.

Since the majority of the time people are not printing to a file 
(especially when they are changing the printer often), could you please 
add a warning that "Print to File is selected" when someone changes the 
printer?

When Print to File is not selected and the printer is changed, I don't 
think it is not necessary to have a warning that "Print to File is not 
selected," and I think it would be rather annoying. So please do not add 
a warning in this case.

Thanks!

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Technical Writer
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Feature Request - Print to File Warning

[Craig Ede]

There are times when quite specific Distiller job options are required by
clients who may be providing the resulting PDF to service bureaus, etc. This
makes printing from .ps files more desirable than simple direct printing to
PDF. 

Craig

-Original Message-

I strongly suggest that you reconsider your workflow instead. First, there
is no reason to print to file in order to create a PDF. If you're using a
very old version of FM or are still superstitious about using Save As PDF,
simply select Adobe PDF as your printer and leave Print to File turned off.
You'll be prompted to choose a file name and location, and your PDF will be
created directly by the same process as if you'd printed to a PostScript
file and then distilled it. 

Access -> Frame -> pdf. Help with a (fun) project, maybe?

[Shlomo Perets]

With respect to PDF bookmarks: using TimeSavers, you can define custom
bookmarks (or multiple sets of custom bookmarks) that appear every time the
PDF is created. You can control all aspects of these bookmarks as part of
the specification (text/appearance/targets etc.). 

The custom bookmarks can be defined through a configuration file (in which
case, nothing is changed in the source FM file) and/or through custom
markers in the specific FM file. 

Standard bookmarks as generated by FM (pointing to paragraphs in the same
PDF) are handled as usual, through the PDF Setup dialog box in FrameMaker.


Shlomo Perets

MicroType, http:// microtype.com 
FrameMaker/Acrobat/Captivate training & consulting * FM-to-Acrobat
TimeSavers/Assistants

Enable and encourage user input in PDFs (viewed with Adobe Reader) 
Half-hour webinar (free; no fluff, no hype, no nonsense), June 5, starting
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https://www3.gotomeeting.com/register/157658438



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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Theresa de
Valence
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 7:22 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Access -> Frame -> pdf. Help with a (fun) project, maybe?

Hi Framers,

I have an Access database which holds records for a crime fiction story,
collaboratively written by a number of authors. On a repeating basis, I need
to "publish" this story in a form which I can then attach to a website so
that readers (and the collaborating authors) can see how the story is doing.
Originally I posted each author as webpage using basic html, unremarkably
named "Chapter X", but now I'm moving the story around, so I would like to
maintain the story in only one place, i.e. in the Access database.

I am unable to use any of Access' tools for exporting to XML or Text or
Excel and import into either Word or Frame. (They all fail). I am able to
export directly from an Access report to a pdf but this has the disadvantage
that I manually have to add Bookmarks, etc., so I am thinking of getting the
data into Frame and then using MicroType's Frame-to-Acrobat tools.

The story itself is in BookComponent.StoryText. The order of the
BookComponents is goverened by BookComponent.Sortnum.

Any advice?

Thanks,
Theresa

P.S. In case you happen to like crime fiction, we've got some great (and
famous) authors, so please visit our story:
http://www.reviewsbytdev.com/content/Whos-Murdering-Crime-Fiction

RE: Feature Request - Print to File Warning

[Combs, Richard]

Craig Ede wrote:
 
> There are times when quite specific Distiller job options are required by
> clients who may be providing the resulting PDF to service bureaus, etc. This
> makes printing from .ps files more desirable than simple direct printing to
> PDF.

In the Print Book dialog box, click PDF Setup. On the Settings tab of the 
dialog box, set PDF Job Options to the job options file you want to use. 

You do create and save .joboptions files for the specific Distiller job options 
required by your clients, right? 

Richard G. Combs
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Polycom, Inc.
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Feature Request - Print to File Warning

[Combs, Richard]

Craig Ede wrote:

> There are times when quite specific Distiller job options are required by
> clients who may be providing the resulting PDF to service bureaus, etc. This
> makes printing from .ps files more desirable than simple direct printing to
> PDF.

In the Print Book dialog box, click PDF Setup. On the Settings tab of the 
dialog box, set PDF Job Options to the job options file you want to use. 

You do create and save .joboptions files for the specific Distiller job options 
required by your clients, right? 

Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
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Master pages' Room for Side Heads not being honoured

[Harro de Jong]

Mark Lehmann wrote:


> 
> I have a book file containing all the usual suspects: a front matter file, 
> TOC, LOF
> and LOT files, assorted chapter and appendix files, an IX
> (index) file and an end file. [FM10, Win7 SP3] I've created two master pages,
> Right_Index and Left_Index, and applied them to the appropriate pages in the 
> IX file.
> The two IX master pages differ from the main Left and Right master pages in 
> that
> they have Room for Side Heads un-ticked and Columns = 2, so that the IX pages
> are all 2-column with no room for sideheads (duh).
> I've propagated these two master pages to all other files in the book, and 
> the IX
> pages look correct.
> So far, so good.
> 
> But . . .
> After I import Page Layouts into the IX file from another file in the book, 
> the IX pages
> all have Room for Side Heads ticked!
> Checking the IX file shows that Right_Index and Left_Index master pages are
> correctly applied, and they correctly show Room for Side Heads = off . . . 
> but the
> document pages now all have Room for Side Heads = on. (And if I open master
> pages then go back to document pages, I'm NOT warned about overrides.) But
> behold, there's more: if I manually set Room for Side Heads = off for the 
> main text
> frame on the first page of the IX file, ALL pages in the file come good.


I've seen this behavior as well. The 'Room for sideheads' property is not 
recognized as an override of the master page. 
I think the reason is that 'Room for sideheads' is considered a property of the 
text flow, and not of the individual master page. 
Try setting the flow tag of your index pages to be different from the flow tag 
of the chapters. 

Harro de Jong
Triview

RE: Feature Request - Print to File Warning

[Combs, Richard]

Shmuel Wolfson wrote:
 
> When I print to file (which I do when I make a PDF) then I later change
> to a different printer to print out a hard copy, the preference of Print
> to File remains unless I clear the checkbox. This is very annoying. I
> end up printing things to the office printer and walking to the printer
> only then to realize that I forgot to clear the Print to File checkbox.
> 
> Since the majority of the time people are not printing to a file
> (especially when they are changing the printer often), could you please
> add a warning that "Print to File is selected" when someone changes the
> printer?
> 
> When Print to File is not selected and the printer is changed, I don't
> think it is not necessary to have a warning that "Print to File is not
> selected," and I think it would be rather annoying. So please do not add
> a warning in this case.

I strongly suggest that you reconsider your workflow instead. First, there is 
no reason to print to file in order to create a PDF. If you're using a very old 
version of FM or are still superstitious about using Save As PDF, simply select 
Adobe PDF as your printer and leave Print to File turned off. You'll be 
prompted to choose a file name and location, and your PDF will be created 
directly by the same process as if you'd printed to a PostScript file and then 
distilled it. 

Second, it's a bad idea to keep changing printers from Adobe PDF to a physical 
printer and back again, which generally causes the available fonts to change, 
potentially affecting the formatting and pagination of the document. 

If you're creating PDFs, print the PDFs, not the FM files. I recommend 
installing the SetPrint plugin from sundorne.com, which makes Adobe PDF your 
default printer in FM regardless of what you default printer is in Windows. 

Richard G. Combs
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Polycom, Inc.
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Feature Request - Print to File Warning

[Combs, Richard]

Shmuel Wolfson wrote:

> When I print to file (which I do when I make a PDF) then I later change
> to a different printer to print out a hard copy, the preference of Print
> to File remains unless I clear the checkbox. This is very annoying. I
> end up printing things to the office printer and walking to the printer
> only then to realize that I forgot to clear the Print to File checkbox.
> 
> Since the majority of the time people are not printing to a file
> (especially when they are changing the printer often), could you please
> add a warning that "Print to File is selected" when someone changes the
> printer?
> 
> When Print to File is not selected and the printer is changed, I don't
> think it is not necessary to have a warning that "Print to File is not
> selected," and I think it would be rather annoying. So please do not add
> a warning in this case.

I strongly suggest that you reconsider your workflow instead. First, there is 
no reason to print to file in order to create a PDF. If you're using a very old 
version of FM or are still superstitious about using Save As PDF, simply select 
Adobe PDF as your printer and leave Print to File turned off. You'll be 
prompted to choose a file name and location, and your PDF will be created 
directly by the same process as if you'd printed to a PostScript file and then 
distilled it. 

Second, it's a bad idea to keep changing printers from Adobe PDF to a physical 
printer and back again, which generally causes the available fonts to change, 
potentially affecting the formatting and pagination of the document. 

If you're creating PDFs, print the PDFs, not the FM files. I recommend 
installing the SetPrint plugin from sundorne.com, which makes Adobe PDF your 
default printer in FM regardless of what you default printer is in Windows. 

Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
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--
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RE: Feature Request - Print to File Warning

[Jeff Coatsworth]

I'd use this site to bring this to their attention - 
https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform 

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson
Sent: May-28-13 10:20 AM
To: Framers
Subject: Feature Request - Print to File Warning

I personal request for the Adobe FrameMaker development team:

When I print to file (which I do when I make a PDF) then I later change 
to a different printer to print out a hard copy, the preference of Print 
to File remains unless I clear the checkbox. This is very annoying. I 
end up printing things to the office printer and walking to the printer 
only then to realize that I forgot to clear the Print to File checkbox.

Since the majority of the time people are not printing to a file 
(especially when they are changing the printer often), could you please 
add a warning that "Print to File is selected" when someone changes the 
printer?

When Print to File is not selected and the printer is changed, I don't 
think it is not necessary to have a warning that "Print to File is not 
selected," and I think it would be rather annoying. So please do not add 
a warning in this case.

Thanks!

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052-763-7133


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Feature Request - Print to File Warning

[Shmuel Wolfson]

I personal request for the Adobe FrameMaker development team:

When I print to file (which I do when I make a PDF) then I later change 
to a different printer to print out a hard copy, the preference of Print 
to File remains unless I clear the checkbox. This is very annoying. I 
end up printing things to the office printer and walking to the printer 
only then to realize that I forgot to clear the Print to File checkbox.


Since the majority of the time people are not printing to a file 
(especially when they are changing the printer often), could you please 
add a warning that "Print to File is selected" when someone changes the 
printer?


When Print to File is not selected and the printer is changed, I don't 
think it is not necessary to have a warning that "Print to File is not 
selected," and I think it would be rather annoying. So please do not add 
a warning in this case.


Thanks!

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Technical Writer
052-763-7133


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Master pages' Room for Side Heads not being honoured

[Theresa de Valence]

Mark,

I'm not sure I follow exactly what's going on, but I have learned this 
about Master Pages.
-ALL of the pages should exist in one master file, i.e. have the same 
list of Master Pages.
-You can control which page uses which master file by use of a single 
paragraph tag (IIRC) at the top of the page. (Make it really small)
-On the references page, build a table which tells which paragraph tag 
calls which master page

Hope this helps,
Theresa
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Re: Master pages' Room for Side Heads not being honoured

[Theresa de Valence]

Mark,

I'm not sure I follow exactly what's going on, but I have learned this 
about Master Pages.
-ALL of the pages should exist in one master file, i.e. have the same 
list of Master Pages.
-You can control which page uses which master file by use of a single 
paragraph tag (IIRC) at the top of the page. (Make it really small)
-On the references page, build a table which tells which paragraph tag 
calls which master page


Hope this helps,
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RE: Master pages' Room for Side Heads not being honoured

[Harro de Jong]

Mark Lehmann wrote:


> 
> I have a book file containing all the usual suspects: a front matter file, 
> TOC, LOF
> and LOT files, assorted chapter and appendix files, an IX
> (index) file and an end file. [FM10, Win7 SP3] I've created two master pages,
> Right_Index and Left_Index, and applied them to the appropriate pages in the 
> IX file.
> The two IX master pages differ from the main Left and Right master pages in 
> that
> they have Room for Side Heads un-ticked and Columns = 2, so that the IX pages
> are all 2-column with no room for sideheads (duh).
> I've propagated these two master pages to all other files in the book, and 
> the IX
> pages look correct.
> So far, so good.
> 
> But . . .
> After I import Page Layouts into the IX file from another file in the book, 
> the IX pages
> all have Room for Side Heads ticked!
> Checking the IX file shows that Right_Index and Left_Index master pages are
> correctly applied, and they correctly show Room for Side Heads = off . . . 
> but the
> document pages now all have Room for Side Heads = on. (And if I open master
> pages then go back to document pages, I'm NOT warned about overrides.) But
> behold, there's more: if I manually set Room for Side Heads = off for the 
> main text
> frame on the first page of the IX file, ALL pages in the file come good.


I've seen this behavior as well. The 'Room for sideheads' property is not 
recognized as an override of the master page. 
I think the reason is that 'Room for sideheads' is considered a property of the 
text flow, and not of the individual master page. 
Try setting the flow tag of your index pages to be different from the flow tag 
of the chapters. 

Harro de Jong
Triview
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Re: Acrobat restriction for large paper sizes still there?

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi Klaus, 

Adobe states for Acrobat X: 

"For printers capable of
producing very large print areas, Acrobat supports pages as large as
15,000,000 in. (38,100,000 cm) by 15,000,000 in. (38,100,000 cm)."


This does not say anything about the resolution, of course. 

I tried
with Indesign 5.5 - max. page height here is *only* 5586 mm, which was
cropped to 5080 mm when producing a PDF. Acrobat displayed the file
correctly incl. some high resolution images on it (> 200 dpi), so I
guess for the size of your banner Acrobat X will work. 

Obviously, all
programs (FM, Indesign, ...) still have further individual limitations
for single objects that can be placed on a page. 

Quite interesting
banner, by the way... 

Kind regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Am
2013-05-27 19:22, schrieb Klaus Daube: 

> Dear all, 
> 
> When i want
to create a poster of 2260 x 297mm with FM and Acrobat 9.5.5 I encounter
the restriction described in fmaker43.html [1]: There must be only 32000
pixels on the longer edge of the page. Hence the resolution for such
posters can not be high. 
> For test you can access the FM-11 file at
dtp-banner.fm [2] 
> 
> Is this restriction still there in newer Acrobat
versions? 
> 
> Thank You for an answer. 
> Klaus Daube 
> 
>
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[2]
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Re: I bought Framemaker 10 with a download - no CD - how do I reinstall with "no" CD

[Anjaneai S]

Hi Dave,

Can you please drop an email to tcs...@adobe.com requesting the installer.

Adobe FrameMaker team would provide you a Download for FrameMaker 10
installer, it would be 2 files one with .7z extension and another .exe use
the Executable file to initialize the installer..

Thanks,
Anjaneai


On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 11:16 PM, Dave Jacobi wrote:

> I have all the information from purchase.
>
> Or, how do I buy a CD now?
>
> I will have to rebuild my computer to get rid of a problem.
>
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RE: I bought Framemaker 10 with a download - no CD - how do I reinstall with "no" CD

[Harro de Jong]

Dave Jacobi wrote:


> I have all the information from purchase.
> Or, how do I buy a CD now?
> I will have to rebuild my computer to get rid of a problem.

The installer unpacks the installation files to a 'temporary' directory and 
installs from there. The 'temporary' directory is not deleted at the end of the 
installation process, so it may still be available. Its default location is 
C:\Adobe FrameMaker 10 (or something like that). 

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Master pages' Room for Side Heads not being honoured

[Mark Lehmann]

I have a book file containing all the usual suspects: a front matter 
file, TOC, LOF and LOT files, assorted chapter and appendix files, an IX 
(index) file and an end file. [FM10, Win7 SP3]
I've created two master pages, Right_Index and Left_Index, and applied 
them to the appropriate pages in the IX file. The two IX master pages 
differ from the main Left and Right master pages in that they have Room 
for Side Heads un-ticked and Columns = 2, so that the IX pages are all 
2-column with no room for sideheads (duh).
I've propagated these two master pages to all other files in the book, 
and the IX pages look correct.

So far, so good.

But . . .
After I import Page Layouts into the IX file from another file in the 
book, the IX pages all have Room for Side Heads ticked!
Checking the IX file shows that Right_Index and Left_Index master pages 
are correctly applied, and they correctly show Room for Side Heads = off 
. . . but the document pages now all have Room for Side Heads = on. (And 
if I open master pages then go back to document pages, I'm NOT warned 
about overrides.)
But behold, there's more: if I manually set Room for Side Heads = off 
for the main text frame on the first page of the IX file, ALL pages in 
the file come good.


Any ideas what's going on?
How can I fix things so that I don't have to remember to do this manual 
tweak?


Cheers,
Mark Lehmann
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