FM and Distiller distort Visio drawing

[Steve Rickaby]

At 08:55 -0700 3/6/13, Roman Banks wrote:

>Do you have any ideas what makes FM and Distiller distort the drawing, and how 
>to solve this problem?

Roman - it might not be FrameMaker. You mention PNG. PNG is (presumably) 
created via an export filter from Visio. Historically, we have had endless 
problems with Visio export filters to 'foreign' (i.e. non-Microsoft) formats 
producing non-faithful reproductions of images that look correct in Visio. So 
my suggestion is to first check that your graphic is not being distorted by the 
export process from Visio before you start looking for problems in the 
FrameMaker/Distiller/PDF domain. I cannot for sure state that this is the 
problem in your case, but you should check if first before looking for issues 
outside of Visio.

You also mention FrameMaker's 'Save as PDF' feature. This also, historically, 
has been a cause of problems, although they may have been fixed in your version 
of FrameMaker (which you don't mention). So I suggest you also try saving to 
.ps and distilling separately, if you have a full version of Acrobat.

-- 
Steve

RE: BookMifWash

[Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)]

Stuart Rogers wrote:
On 2013-May-29 10:21 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain 
(syed.hos...@aeris.net) wrote:
> > Thanks for the info!
> >
> > As a side comment, the documentation seems to be incorrect to me. I hope it 
> > does _not_ do what I think it says it does:
> >
> > The client will then open the files in book one by one, saving them as MIFs 
> > and also saving them back to fm file format at the
> > same time.

> Any documentation that includes a statement like, "To let the FrameMaker 
> product know about this client," is obviously not written by a tech writer... 
>  I'm sure the plug-in does not do exactly what the author has written!

Yeah, probably! ☺

As a final note though, let me share a quote:

“When the code and the comments disagree, both are probably wrong.” — Norm 
Schryer

from my C Style Guide document (that we use here … it is based on a document 
from Bell Labs many years ago), because we want our engineers to do good code 
comments. And the definition of “good” is clearly defined too!
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[Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)]

Stuart Rogers wrote:
On 2013-May-29 10:21 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at 
aeris.net<mailto:Syed.Hosain at aeris.net>) wrote:
> > Thanks for the info!
> >
> > As a side comment, the documentation seems to be incorrect to me. I hope it 
> > does _not_ do what I think it says it does:
> >
> > The client will then open the files in book one by one, saving them as MIFs 
> > and also saving them back to fm file format at the
> > same time.

> Any documentation that includes a statement like, "To let the FrameMaker 
> product know about this client," is obviously not written by a tech writer... 
>  I'm sure the plug-in does not do exactly what the author has written!

Yeah, probably! ?

As a final note though, let me share a quote:

?When the code and the comments disagree, both are probably wrong.? ? Norm 
Schryer

from my C Style Guide document (that we use here ? it is based on a document 
from Bell Labs many years ago), because we want our engineers to do good code 
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[Jerilynne Knight]

Thanks for correcting that Stuart (was multi-tasking, not wise!)


On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Stuart Rogers <
srogers at phoenix-geophysics.com> wrote:

>  On 2013-Jun-03 1:27 PM, Jerilynne Knight wrote:
>
>  Another way I've done this is to insert at least 3 tab characters (not
> tab stops) before the page number. Maybe that will give you a bit of
> automation for those long entries.
>
>
>  ... Jerilynne means, "on the reference page" for the TOC or other
> generated file.
>
>
>
>  On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Jay Mahler  wrote:
>
>>  I?m sure you?ve all had the problem with TOCs, LOTs, LOFs, and even
>> indexes. When the title reaches the end of the line (or too many index
>> entries), the tab character that should position the page number at right
>> aligned tab doesn?t work, and the page number appears left justified on the
>> second line with or without continued text. I?ve always gone through and
>> manually fixed the issue by inserting soft returns after the lists are
>> generated, but I have a client with a huge document and LOTs and LOFs that
>> are 20 pages each. Has anyone figured out an automated way to fix this
>> problem? My experiments haven?t turned up a solution.
>>
>>
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FM and Distiller distort Visio drawing

[Stuart Rogers]

On 2013-Jun-03 11:55 AM, Roman Banks wrote:
> Hi everybody,
> I have a simple Visio drawing containing basic Visio shapes (e.g., a 
> rectangle with a green background). I inserted a PNG (an icon with a 
> transparent background) via Insert-->Picture-->From File and put it on 
> top of the rectangle. So far, everything looked perfect. However, when 
> I embedded the Visio drawing in Framemaker (without resizing), the 
> icon became fuzzy and distorted. When I opened the Visio from 
> Framemaker - everything looked fine again, but when I closed it, the 
> icon had a stroke ;-). I wasn't too concerned with that as I've seen 
> many times that Framemaker distorts images, but when converted to PDF, 
> they look OK again. However, it wasn't the case this time.
> When I converted the FM file to PDF (File --> Save as PDF), the icon 
> itself looked OK, BUT it was surrounded by a white background! In the 
> Distiller settings, I deselected the "CMYK to RGB" option, and 
> generated the PDF again -- the white background disappeared, but the 
> icon looked fuzzy and distorted as in Framemaker.
> Do you have any ideas what makes FM and Distiller distort the drawing, 
> and how to solve this problem?
>


AFAIK, FM still does not support transparency, so that's why you get the 
white background.  Not sure why the fuzziness, unless Visio is producing 
a low-res preview as in EPS files. (I have never used Visio.)

HTH a bit,

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[Stuart Rogers]

On 2013-Jun-03 1:27 PM, Jerilynne Knight wrote:
> Another way I've done this is to insert at least 3 tab characters (not 
> tab stops) before the page number. Maybe that will give you a bit of 
> automation for those long entries.
>
>
... Jerilynne means, "on the reference page" for the TOC or other 
generated file.


> On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Jay Mahler  <mailto:jay at mahler.com>> wrote:
>
> I?m sure you?ve all had the problem with TOCs, LOTs, LOFs, and
> even indexes. When the title reaches the end of the line (or too
> many index entries), the tab character that should position the
> page number at right aligned tab doesn?t work, and the page number
> appears left justified on the second line with or without
> continued text. I?ve always gone through and manually fixed the
> issue by inserting soft returns after the lists are generated, but
> I have a client with a huge document and LOTs and LOFs that are 20
> pages each. Has anyone figured out an automated way to fix this
> problem? My experiments haven?t turned up a solution.
>
>

-- 
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+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

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The Problem with Long Titles in Generated Lists

[Jerilynne Knight]

Another way I've done this is to insert at least 3 tab characters (not tab
stops) before the page number. Maybe that will give you a bit of automation
for those long entries.


On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Jay Mahler  wrote:

> I?m sure you?ve all had the problem with TOCs, LOTs, LOFs, and even
> indexes. When the title reaches the end of the line (or too many index
> entries), the tab character that should position the page number at right
> aligned tab doesn?t work, and the page number appears left justified on the
> second line with or without continued text. I?ve always gone through and
> manually fixed the issue by inserting soft returns after the lists are
> generated, but I have a client with a huge document and LOTs and LOFs that
> are 20 pages each. Has anyone figured out an automated way to fix this
> problem? My experiments haven?t turned up a solution.
>
> ** **
>
> Also, since I?m sure this isn?t the first time someone has asked this
> question, I wanted to search old posts and the archives. I can?t figure out
> how to do that other than looking at each month manually. Is there a search
> tool available somewhere?
>
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>
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The Problem with Long Titles in Generated Lists

[Lin Sims]

Chris Despoupolis's (sp?) TocBreaker might be of use. You'd have to insert
your soft returns once and run TocBreaker to save the information. After
that, you run TocBreaker after regenerating. (http://cudspan.net/) It works
with all generated lists.

You can use Google to search the archives by specifying "site:
www.framerusers.org"


On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Jay Mahler  wrote:

> I?m sure you?ve all had the problem with TOCs, LOTs, LOFs, and even
> indexes. When the title reaches the end of the line (or too many index
> entries), the tab character that should position the page number at right
> aligned tab doesn?t work, and the page number appears left justified on the
> second line with or without continued text. I?ve always gone through and
> manually fixed the issue by inserting soft returns after the lists are
> generated, but I have a client with a huge document and LOTs and LOFs that
> are 20 pages each. Has anyone figured out an automated way to fix this
> problem? My experiments haven?t turned up a solution.
>
> ** **
>
> Also, since I?m sure this isn?t the first time someone has asked this
> question, I wanted to search old posts and the archives. I can?t figure out
> how to do that other than looking at each month manually. Is there a search
> tool available somewhere?
>
> ** **
>
> Jay Mahler
>
> 734-645-6298
>
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FM and Distiller distort Visio drawing

[Robert Lauriston]

I don't know about transparency, but this is what works well for me:

In Visio, use File > Page Setup > Page Size > "Size to fit drawing
contents" to eliminate unused space around the drawing, then File >
Save As > Enhanced Metafile (*.emf).

In FrameMaker, import the .emf file by reference.

Re: FM and Distiller distort Visio drawing

[Steve Rickaby]

At 08:55 -0700 3/6/13, Roman Banks wrote:

>Do you have any ideas what makes FM and Distiller distort the drawing, and how 
>to solve this problem?

Roman - it might not be FrameMaker. You mention PNG. PNG is (presumably) 
created via an export filter from Visio. Historically, we have had endless 
problems with Visio export filters to 'foreign' (i.e. non-Microsoft) formats 
producing non-faithful reproductions of images that look correct in Visio. So 
my suggestion is to first check that your graphic is not being distorted by the 
export process from Visio before you start looking for problems in the 
FrameMaker/Distiller/PDF domain. I cannot for sure state that this is the 
problem in your case, but you should check if first before looking for issues 
outside of Visio.

You also mention FrameMaker's 'Save as PDF' feature. This also, historically, 
has been a cause of problems, although they may have been fixed in your version 
of FrameMaker (which you don't mention). So I suggest you also try saving to 
.ps and distilling separately, if you have a full version of Acrobat.

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straightforward approach for adding icons to paragraph tag? (no tables, macros, or multiple tags, please)

[Robert Lauriston]

OK, Autonumber Format works. Deja Vu Sans has the dingbat, if I set
the character tag to 24 pt and Subscript, it looks about right. I used
the Frame Above Pgf and Frame Below Pgf to add horizontal rules.

On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Robert Lauriston  
wrote:
> Hmmm ... I could do it with Autonumber Format if I could find a
> dingbat font with the right icons.
>
> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Robert Lauriston  
> wrote:
>> Somebody wants Note and Caution icons to the left of paragraphs.
>>
>> For single-source motives I don't want multiple paragraph tags or a
>> table. I want to define the Caution and Note paragraph tags so the
>> icon appears at the left in PDF output. If it doesn't appear in
>> FrameMaker that's fine.
>>
>> Is there any way to do this in FrameMaker 10?

Re: The Problem with Long Titles in Generated Lists

[Jerilynne Knight]

Thanks for correcting that Stuart (was multi-tasking, not wise!)


On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Stuart Rogers <
srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com> wrote:

>  On 2013-Jun-03 1:27 PM, Jerilynne Knight wrote:
>
>  Another way I've done this is to insert at least 3 tab characters (not
> tab stops) before the page number. Maybe that will give you a bit of
> automation for those long entries.
>
>
>  ... Jerilynne means, "on the reference page" for the TOC or other
> generated file.
>
>
>
>  On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Jay Mahler  wrote:
>
>>  I’m sure you’ve all had the problem with TOCs, LOTs, LOFs, and even
>> indexes. When the title reaches the end of the line (or too many index
>> entries), the tab character that should position the page number at right
>> aligned tab doesn’t work, and the page number appears left justified on the
>> second line with or without continued text. I’ve always gone through and
>> manually fixed the issue by inserting soft returns after the lists are
>> generated, but I have a client with a huge document and LOTs and LOFs that
>> are 20 pages each. Has anyone figured out an automated way to fix this
>> problem? My experiments haven’t turned up a solution.
>>
>>
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Re: FM and Distiller distort Visio drawing

[Stuart Rogers]

On 2013-Jun-03 11:55 AM, Roman Banks wrote:

Hi everybody,
I have a simple Visio drawing containing basic Visio shapes (e.g., a 
rectangle with a green background). I inserted a PNG (an icon with a 
transparent background) via Insert-->Picture-->From File and put it on 
top of the rectangle. So far, everything looked perfect. However, when 
I embedded the Visio drawing in Framemaker (without resizing), the 
icon became fuzzy and distorted. When I opened the Visio from 
Framemaker - everything looked fine again, but when I closed it, the 
icon had a stroke ;-). I wasn't too concerned with that as I've seen 
many times that Framemaker distorts images, but when converted to PDF, 
they look OK again. However, it wasn't the case this time.
When I converted the FM file to PDF (File --> Save as PDF), the icon 
itself looked OK, BUT it was surrounded by a white background! In the 
Distiller settings, I deselected the "CMYK to RGB" option, and 
generated the PDF again -- the white background disappeared, but the 
icon looked fuzzy and distorted as in Framemaker.
Do you have any ideas what makes FM and Distiller distort the drawing, 
and how to solve this problem?





AFAIK, FM still does not support transparency, so that's why you get the 
white background.  Not sure why the fuzziness, unless Visio is producing 
a low-res preview as in EPS files. (I have never used Visio.)


HTH a bit,

--
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Technical Communicator
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Re: The Problem with Long Titles in Generated Lists

[Stuart Rogers]

On 2013-Jun-03 1:27 PM, Jerilynne Knight wrote:
Another way I've done this is to insert at least 3 tab characters (not 
tab stops) before the page number. Maybe that will give you a bit of 
automation for those long entries.



... Jerilynne means, "on the reference page" for the TOC or other 
generated file.



On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Jay Mahler > wrote:


I’m sure you’ve all had the problem with TOCs, LOTs, LOFs, and
even indexes. When the title reaches the end of the line (or too
many index entries), the tab character that should position the
page number at right aligned tab doesn’t work, and the page number
appears left justified on the second line with or without
continued text. I’ve always gone through and manually fixed the
issue by inserting soft returns after the lists are generated, but
I have a client with a huge document and LOTs and LOFs that are 20
pages each. Has anyone figured out an automated way to fix this
problem? My experiments haven’t turned up a solution.




--
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Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

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straightforward approach for adding icons to paragraph tag? (no tables, macros, or multiple tags, please)

[Robert Lauriston]

Hmmm ... I could do it with Autonumber Format if I could find a
dingbat font with the right icons.

On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Robert Lauriston  
wrote:
> Somebody wants Note and Caution icons to the left of paragraphs.
>
> For single-source motives I don't want multiple paragraph tags or a
> table. I want to define the Caution and Note paragraph tags so the
> icon appears at the left in PDF output. If it doesn't appear in
> FrameMaker that's fine.
>
> Is there any way to do this in FrameMaker 10?

straightforward approach for adding icons to paragraph tag? (no tables, macros, or multiple tags, please)

[Robert Lauriston]

Somebody wants Note and Caution icons to the left of paragraphs.

For single-source motives I don't want multiple paragraph tags or a
table. I want to define the Caution and Note paragraph tags so the
icon appears at the left in PDF output. If it doesn't appear in
FrameMaker that's fine.

Is there any way to do this in FrameMaker 10?

BookMifWash

[Stuart Rogers]

On 2013-May-29 10:21 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net) wrote:
> Thanks for the info!
>
> As a side comment, the documentation seems to be incorrect to me. I hope it 
> does _not_ do what I think it says it does:
>
>> The client will then open the files in book one by one, saving them as MIFs 
>> and also saving them back to fm file format at the same time.
>


Any documentation that includes a statement like, "To let the FrameMaker 
product know about this client," is obviously not written by a tech 
writer...  I'm sure the plug-in does not do /exactly/ what the author 
has written!

s.

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FM and Distiller distort Visio drawing

[Robert Lauriston]

What sequence of commands are you using to embed it?

On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Roman Banks  wrote:
> when I
> embedded the Visio drawing in Framemaker (without resizing), the icon became
> fuzzy and distorted.

Re: The Problem with Long Titles in Generated Lists

[Jerilynne Knight]

Another way I've done this is to insert at least 3 tab characters (not tab
stops) before the page number. Maybe that will give you a bit of automation
for those long entries.


On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Jay Mahler  wrote:

> I’m sure you’ve all had the problem with TOCs, LOTs, LOFs, and even
> indexes. When the title reaches the end of the line (or too many index
> entries), the tab character that should position the page number at right
> aligned tab doesn’t work, and the page number appears left justified on the
> second line with or without continued text. I’ve always gone through and
> manually fixed the issue by inserting soft returns after the lists are
> generated, but I have a client with a huge document and LOTs and LOFs that
> are 20 pages each. Has anyone figured out an automated way to fix this
> problem? My experiments haven’t turned up a solution.
>
> ** **
>
> Also, since I’m sure this isn’t the first time someone has asked this
> question, I wanted to search old posts and the archives. I can’t figure out
> how to do that other than looking at each month manually. Is there a search
> tool available somewhere?
>
> ** **
>
> Jay Mahler
>
> 734-645-6298
>
> ** **
>
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Re: The Problem with Long Titles in Generated Lists

[Lin Sims]

Chris Despoupolis's (sp?) TocBreaker might be of use. You'd have to insert
your soft returns once and run TocBreaker to save the information. After
that, you run TocBreaker after regenerating. (http://cudspan.net/) It works
with all generated lists.

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On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Jay Mahler  wrote:

> I’m sure you’ve all had the problem with TOCs, LOTs, LOFs, and even
> indexes. When the title reaches the end of the line (or too many index
> entries), the tab character that should position the page number at right
> aligned tab doesn’t work, and the page number appears left justified on the
> second line with or without continued text. I’ve always gone through and
> manually fixed the issue by inserting soft returns after the lists are
> generated, but I have a client with a huge document and LOTs and LOFs that
> are 20 pages each. Has anyone figured out an automated way to fix this
> problem? My experiments haven’t turned up a solution.
>
> ** **
>
> Also, since I’m sure this isn’t the first time someone has asked this
> question, I wanted to search old posts and the archives. I can’t figure out
> how to do that other than looking at each month manually. Is there a search
> tool available somewhere?
>
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FM and Distiller distort Visio drawing

[Roman Banks]

Hi everybody,
 
I have a simple Visio drawing containing basic Visio shapes (e.g., a rectangle 
with a green background). I inserted a PNG (an icon with a transparent 
background) via Insert-->Picture-->From File and put it on top of the 
rectangle. So far, everything looked perfect. However, when I embedded the 
Visio drawing in Framemaker (without resizing), the icon became fuzzy and 
distorted. When I opened the Visio from Framemaker - everything looked fine 
again, but when I closed it, the icon had a stroke ;-). I wasn't too concerned 
with that as I've seen many times that Framemaker distorts images, but when 
converted to PDF, they look OK again. However, it wasn't the case this time.
 
When I converted the FM file to PDF (File --> Save as PDF), the icon itself 
looked OK, BUT it was surrounded by a white background! In the Distiller 
settings, I deselected the "CMYK to RGB" option, and generated the PDF again -- 
the white background disappeared, but the icon looked fuzzy and distorted as in 
Framemaker.
 
Do you have any ideas what makes FM and Distiller distort the drawing, and how 
to solve this problem?
 
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RE: Automate resolution of broken x-refs after renaming target files?

[Harro de Jong]

You can use Jesper Storm Bache's XtraBookUtils to change cross-references in 
bulk:


Harro de Jong


From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
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[srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk]
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2013 14:13
To: Duncan, Gary; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Automate resolution of broken x-refs after renaming target files?

At 20:54 -0400 1/6/13, Duncan, Gary wrote:

>If I rename Frame files in a book, is it possible to automate changing the 
>file names in cross-reference hypertext markers to repair the cross-references 
>that will break? Specifically, we'd like to rename Frame files so that there 
>are no spaces in the names (same characters in the file names but no spaces). 
>I'd like to be able to search all cross-reference marker text to find file 
>names with spaces and remove the spaces.

As a 'quick and dirty' method, have you tried a search/replace on a MIF version 
of the file(s)? (Caveat: I have not tried this, but in MIF an xref contains the 
destination file name in the XRefSrcFile tag, so it should work.)

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RE: "Drop shadow" in Frame 11 tab text

[Harro de Jong]

I doubt it. I've currently got FM9 and 11 installed on the same system, FM9 is 
readable while FM11 shows these awful drop shadows.

Harro de Jong


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Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 23:12
To: Saunders, Ian; framers
Subject: RE: "Drop shadow" in Frame 11 tab text

It may have been something "fixed" in the OS and not in the FM application.
Craig

> From: isaund...@enghouse.com
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: "Drop shadow" in Frame 11 tab text
> Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 09:28:49 +
>
> Thanks guys!
>
> Do Adobe actually test their GUIs with real people? The text was perfectly 
> readable in Frame 10. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it".

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Re: Automate resolution of broken x-refs after renaming target files?

[Robert Lauriston]

Yes, that works for me. Select the document you want to rename in the
list in the book file, then use FrameMaker's command to rename it.

On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 8:42 PM, Mike Wickham  wrote:
> If I remember right, renaming the files from inside the book window takes
> care of all that automatically. If you rename the files outside FrameMaker
> using Windows Explorer or other method, you break the links.
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The Problem with Long Titles in Generated Lists

[Jay Mahler]

I'm sure you've all had the problem with TOCs, LOTs, LOFs, and even indexes. 
When the title reaches the end of the line (or too many index entries), the tab 
character that should position the page number at right aligned tab doesn't 
work, and the page number appears left justified on the second line with or 
without continued text. I've always gone through and manually fixed the issue 
by inserting soft returns after the lists are generated, but I have a client 
with a huge document and LOTs and LOFs that are 20 pages each. Has anyone 
figured out an automated way to fix this problem? My experiments haven't turned 
up a solution.

Also, since I'm sure this isn't the first time someone has asked this question, 
I wanted to search old posts and the archives. I can't figure out how to do 
that other than looking at each month manually. Is there a search tool 
available somewhere?

Jay Mahler
734-645-6298

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Length of text flow names reduced

[info . dkpress]

Dear all,

FM 11 has another quite disturbing new feature: The length of the name of a
textflow is reduced to the size of the window (18 characters with numbers;
12 characters when inserting big "M"). In Version 9 I could insert any
amount of characters in this field. The old names are still visible in full
length but new text flows names can't have more characters.

If you only use A, B, C, D its not a problem. But I reuse safety notes as
named text flows. The naming is quite tough with 12 characters.

 

cid:image005.jpg@01CE5314.105E2620

 

Maybe a task for debugging or is it a new feature?!

With best regards

Markus Drenckhan

 

 

 

 

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FM and Distiller distort Visio drawing

[Roman Banks]

Hi everybody,
?
I have a simple Visio drawing containing basic Visio shapes (e.g., a rectangle 
with a green background). I inserted a PNG?(an icon with a transparent 
background) via Insert-->Picture-->From File and put it on top of the 
rectangle. So far, everything looked perfect. However, when I embedded the 
Visio drawing in Framemaker (without resizing), the icon became fuzzy and 
distorted. When I opened the Visio from Framemaker - everything looked fine 
again, but when I closed it, the icon had a?stroke ;-). I wasn't too concerned 
with that as I've seen many times that Framemaker distorts images, but when 
converted to PDF, they look OK again. However, it wasn't the case this time.
?
When I converted the FM file to PDF (File --> Save as PDF), the icon itself 
looked OK, BUT it was surrounded by a white background! In the Distiller 
settings, I deselected the "CMYK to RGB" option, and generated the PDF again -- 
the white background disappeared, but the icon looked fuzzy and distorted as in 
Framemaker.
?
Do you have any ideas what makes FM and Distiller distort the drawing, and how 
to solve this problem?
?
TIA!!!
Roman
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Length of text flow names reduced

[info . dkpress]

Dear all,

FM 11 has another quite disturbing new feature: The length of the name of a
textflow is reduced to the size of the window (18 characters with numbers;
12 characters when inserting big "M"). In Version 9 I could insert any
amount of characters in this field. The old names are still visible in full
length but new text flows names can't have more characters.

If you only use A, B, C, D its not a problem. But I reuse safety notes as
named text flows. The naming is quite tough with 12 characters.



cid:image005.jpg at 01CE5314.105E2620



Maybe a task for debugging or is it a new feature?!

With best regards

Markus Drenckhan









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Automate resolution of broken x-refs after renaming target files?

[Harro de Jong]

You can use Jesper Storm Bache's XtraBookUtils to change cross-references in 
bulk:


Harro de Jong


From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [framers-bounces at 
lists.frameusers.com] on behalf of Steve Rickaby 
[srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk]
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2013 14:13
To: Duncan, Gary; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Automate resolution of broken x-refs after renaming target files?

At 20:54 -0400 1/6/13, Duncan, Gary wrote:

>If I rename Frame files in a book, is it possible to automate changing the 
>file names in cross-reference hypertext markers to repair the cross-references 
>that will break? Specifically, we'd like to rename Frame files so that there 
>are no spaces in the names (same characters in the file names but no spaces). 
>I'd like to be able to search all cross-reference marker text to find file 
>names with spaces and remove the spaces.

As a 'quick and dirty' method, have you tried a search/replace on a MIF version 
of the file(s)? (Caveat: I have not tried this, but in MIF an xref contains the 
destination file name in the XRefSrcFile tag, so it should work.)

--
Steve
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"Drop shadow" in Frame 11 tab text

[Harro de Jong]

I doubt it. I've currently got FM9 and 11 installed on the same system, FM9 is 
readable while FM11 shows these awful drop shadows.

Harro de Jong


From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [framers-bounces at 
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Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 23:12
To: Saunders, Ian; framers
Subject: RE: "Drop shadow" in Frame 11 tab text

It may have been something "fixed" in the OS and not in the FM application.
Craig

> From: ISaunders at enghouse.com
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: "Drop shadow" in Frame 11 tab text
> Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 09:28:49 +
>
> Thanks guys!
>
> Do Adobe actually test their GUIs with real people? The text was perfectly 
> readable in Frame 10. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it".

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Re: BookMifWash

[Stuart Rogers]

On 2013-May-29 10:21 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) wrote:

Thanks for the info!

As a side comment, the documentation seems to be incorrect to me. I hope it 
does _not_ do what I think it says it does:


The client will then open the files in book one by one, saving them as MIFs and 
also saving them back to fm file format at the same time.





Any documentation that includes a statement like, "To let the FrameMaker 
product know about this client," is obviously not written by a tech 
writer...  I'm sure the plug-in does not do /exactly/ what the author 
has written!


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