Re: adjusting an underline (underscore)
The only simple option in FM is to change from a regular underline to a numeric underline - this will change the spacing (slightly) but also change the line weight. Neither underlining style is adjustable, so you will have to test to see if you like the result. As others have said, there are a few more complex work-arounds you can use, but these definitely increase the long-term maintenance effort for the document(s). – Les Smalley From: Ken Poshedly poshe...@bellsouth.net To: FrameMaker Users List framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 3:46 PM Subject: adjusting an underline (underscore) FrameMaker 11 Can an underline be adjusted to increase the space between the underline and the text directly above the underline ? Next obvious question: If the answer is yes, then how to do it? -- Ken in Atlanta___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
cross reference crash postscript
Xrefs work OK in regular FrameMaker. The problem is in Structured Frame, which of course, is what I am using. Uninstalling Framescript doesn't seem to make a difference. Saving a file as MIF and then opening it still crashes. Fred -- Fred Wersan VT MÄK, Principal Technical Writer 150 Cambridge Park Drive, 3rd Floor, Cambridge, MA 02140 T: 857-209-3469 Email: fwer...@mak.com Where Live, Virtual, and Constructive Simulation Meets the Web www.mak.com/weblvc ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: cross reference crash postscript
Fred, I am also running Frame 8 on Win 7 (but unstructured). I have not had your cross-reference crashing problem, but I did have issues when I first moved to my new computer--I did have crashing issues, but I don't know that there was any consistent cause. Once I got myself fully patched, though, it's been (mostly) fine. So that would be my only suggestion. (I was re-installing Frame 8 from CD (DVD? don't remember) so there had been a few patches after that initial release.) I'm at Version 8.0p277 -Lise On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Fred Wersan fwer...@mak.com wrote: Xrefs work OK in regular FrameMaker. The problem is in Structured Frame, which of course, is what I am using. Uninstalling Framescript doesn't seem to make a difference. Saving a file as MIF and then opening it still crashes. Fred -- Fred Wersan VT MÄK, Principal Technical Writer 150 Cambridge Park Drive, 3rd Floor, Cambridge, MA 02140 T: 857-209-3469 Email: fwer...@mak.com Where Live, Virtual, and Constructive Simulation Meets the Web www.mak.com/weblvc ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as rentagoodb...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ rentagoodbook%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- *Save the earth.* It's the only planet with chocolate. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: adjusting an underline (underscore)
Use the numeric underline instead of the regular underline—this will leave some space between the line and the text. Brad On Apr 29, 2014, at 8:10 PM, Rick Quatro r...@rickquatro.com wrote: FrameMaker, no. InDesign, yes. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-366-4017 r...@frameexpert.com From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Ken Poshedly Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 3:47 PM To: FrameMaker Users List Subject: adjusting an underline (underscore) FrameMaker 11 Can an underline be adjusted to increase the space between the underline and the text directly above the underline ? Next obvious question: If the answer is yes, then how to do it? -- Ken in Atlanta ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as b...@frameusers.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/brad%40frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: RoboHelp links (from FM) appearing without a link destination
Thanks, Jeff - that indeed was the problem. Nice feature indeed. JG On Wednesday, April 30, 2014, Jeff Coatsworth jeff.coatswo...@jonasclub.com wrote: You’re probably running into an “undocumented feature” that TCS has – there’s a finite path length of around 35 characters that the xrefs to FM files can have before they break in RH. As a test, try taking a copy of your FM source and putting it on your root c:\ drive, then either import or link the content into a test RH project. *From:* framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com');[mailto: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com');] *On Behalf Of *John G *Sent:* April-27-14 3:29 PM *To:* framers@lists.frameusers.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','framers@lists.frameusers.com'); *Subject:* RoboHelp links (from FM) appearing without a link destination Using Adobe TCS Suite 4 - FrameMaker 11, RoboHelp 10 I have a problem where cross-refs from one FM chapter to another chapter in the same book are not being turned into links in the RH output. In the FM files, I verified all the links are fine - no broken cross-refs. When I generate a PDF from the FM book, all the cross-refs work. After updating the files in RH, the file Design view shows the links with the link text in blue and underlined, but there's no Hyperlink properties on the right-click menu, and HTML view shows that it's missing the href that specifies the link destination. There is a corresponding Japanese version for the documents and the same is happening there as well making me think it's more likely in FM than in RH. Somewhere there is either - a setting telling RH not to include the link destination for some links, or - a setting in FM telling it not to export the link destination for links to other FM files Any ideas where this might be? Also - any suggestions about what I could copy from another project to fix this? Help please - this was due yesterday ... ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM 12 Kindle Page Breaks
Hi Art_Campbell You can do that using pagination in conversion settings. http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WS2d2a17056e2191985844af1a142be0be50b-7ffc.html In publish pod (File - Publish) 1. Go to Edit settings by clicking on settings button 2. Go to conversion setting 3. Select the FM Para tag (where you want to have page break) 4. Check pagination 5. Click on Save close and publish You can also do the Special Page Break operation as local override. Please let us know if it is not working for you. Thanks Amit Jha -Original Message- On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Scott Prentice s...@leximation.comwrote: Art... Unfortunately this CSS setting isn't honored by most readers .. Kindles are typically worse in this regard than EPUB readers. The only guaranteed way to get a page break is to force the content into a separate content file in the package. You should be able to do this by starting a new FM file for each place you want a page break. I assume you're generating the MOBI from a FM book? Cheers, ...scott On 4/21/14 6:26 AM, Rick Quatro wrote: Hi Art, I don't know if there is a way to do this directly from FM12 to mobi. If you go to Epub, you can modify the CSS to give you page breaks then convert the Epub to mobi. There are two CSS declarations that you can try: page-break-before: always; or page-break-after: always; You will probably use the first one with the CSS for your headers that you want to force page breaks on. Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. Thank you very much. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-366-4017 r...@frameexpert.com *From:* framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [ mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.comframers-boun...@lists.fram eusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Art Campbell *Sent:* Monday, April 21, 2014 8:54 AM *To:* Framers List; Free Framers *Subject:* FM 12 Kindle Page Breaks I'm publishing a book into Amazon's Kindle format, mobi, and was hoping someone knows how to force a page break by adding it to a FM para tag or other FM code. Any ideas? Thanks, Art ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: adjusting an underline (underscore)
Although using a table cell as a formatting feature is very common in FrameMaker, it is only acceptable for publications printed on paper. If a document is exported to online formats, such as PDF or HTML serious issues appear. HTML code will be converted to an HTML table, with a full set of table tags. PDF files will be rendered not accessible according to Section 508 Compliance standards, since table should only be used as data Your best solution for controlling a line below a paragraph, that may resemble an underline, is to create a line on a Reference Page, then update or create a Paragraph Format Tag that refers to that line in Below Pgf, Advanced properties in the Paragraph Designer. FM does not give you any direct control over the position, weight or type of the line in an underline. Best regards, Urszula On April 30, 2014 at 4:15 AM Shmuel Wolfson shmue...@gmail.com wrote: ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as urszulawither...@jetsetcom.net. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/urszulawitherell%40jetsetcom.net Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Urszula Witherell | JetSet Communications, Inc. Adobe Certified Expert in Adobe InDesign, Adobe Acrobat, Adobe FrameMaker Certified Technical Trainer (CompTIA) cell: 301.524.3165 www.jetsetcom.net | www.trainingonsite.com___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: adjusting an underline (underscore)
I don't know any way to adjust the spacing but if you want an underline that's further away from the text, you can use the numeric underline. It's available from the character designer and the font tab of the paragraph designer. Anne On 4/29/2014 4:46 PM, Ken Poshedly wrote: FrameMaker 11 Can an underline be adjusted to increase the space between the underline and the text directly above the underline ? Next obvious question: If the answer is yes, then how to do it? -- Ken in Atlanta ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as anne.ma...@caris.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/anne.magee%40caris.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Overflow work
Please let me know if you are available for sporadic work. I need someone that already has Frame and Indesign. This will be long term, but no guarantees on how much work. It is as needed mostly editing , updates, and recreation. Local to Maryland is great but all remote is fine too. Thanks, Debbi Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Trying out CHM generation in Frame12
Hello frameusers. This week I've been playing with the 30 day trial of FrameMaker 12. Most of my work at the moment has been generating HTML Help: my existing workflow has been with TechComm Suite 4, authoring in Frame 11, linking the books into RoboHelp 10 and generating CHMs from there. I've found that workflow a bit cumbersome, and struggled quite a bit to get my CHM files looking the same as my Frame source (although I mostly got there in the end, not least with some help from others on this list...) I'm trying to see whether I could just use Frame 12 instead, and forget about RoboHelp and TechComm Suite. (As I don't need the multiplicity of output formats the latter can produce.) The dialog boxes for configuring CHM output from Frame 12 look very familiar ( :) yes, they're straight out of RoboHelp) and I was quickly and easily able to achieve about 95% of what I'd been doing in TCS4. The only 'gotcha' I have encountered is this: Creating a CHM from Frame12 still ignores anything that was on a Master Page or Reference Page - so any 'boilerplate' graphics etc get ditched. In TCS4, I'd instead used RoboHelp Master Pages to append a boilerplate footer to each CHM topic. Am I right that I can't do this with Frame12 alone? Or is there some workaround I'm overlooking? (Sadly I don't think I can do without this feature, so if it can't be done in Frame12 alone I'll need to stick with TCS4... TCS5 is no good as it doesn't have Illustrator, as many of you have already noted..) Also, the Glossary feature in Frame12 seems to be broken - I ought to be able to include GlossaryTerm markers on words, and have the marker text displayed in the CHM as tooltips, pop-ups, etc. It doesn't appear to work though (other people have confirmed the same issue on the Adobe Forums). Has anyone here tried this successfully? David *** Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any associated or attached files, is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This e-mail is confidential and may well also be legally privileged. If you have received it in error, you are on notice of its status. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message from your system. Please do not copy it or use it for any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person. This email comes from a division of the Invensys Group, owned by Invensys Limited, which is a company registered in England and Wales with its registered office at 3rd Floor, 40 Grosvenor Place, London, SW1X 7AW (Registered number 166023). For a list of European legal entities within the Invensys Group, please select the Legal Entities link at invensys.com. Invensys Limited is owned by the Schneider-Electric Group. You may contact Invensys Limited on +44 (0)20 3155 1200 or e-mail recept...@invensys.com. This e-mail and any attachments thereto may be subject to the terms of any agreements between Invensys (and/or its subsidiaries and affiliates) and the recipient (and/or its subsidiaries and affiliates). ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
