date:20190107

Re: [Framers] Can't open character palette or hex input

2019-01-07 Thread Lin Sims

Unfortunately, none of these suggestions worked. I did check Task Manager
to see if there was a process I could switch to, but there wasn't anything
listed. In fact, as far as I can tell, neither the character palette nor
the hex input are working. I wonder what I borked.

On Sat, Jan 5, 2019 at 4:19 AM Klaus Daube  wrote:

> On 4 Jan 2019 at 16:22, john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com wrote:
>
> > Can you change your screen resolution to make your desktop bigger, move
> > the pallet to center, then revert the desktop resolution?
>
> Switching from double monitors to just the one of the laptop when offline,
> I have
> this trick:
> ---
> Undocked system
> ---
> Move window to left monitor
> o activate the app
> o ALT+space (system menu)
> o x (maXimise) or
> o m (Move) and then use arrow keys
> ---
>
> HTH Klaus
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[Framers] OT: Punctuation question

2019-01-07 Thread tammyvb

Consider the following three sentences:

 

1.)The information is displayed across five tabs, which, from left to
right, are the following: Overview, Category, Locus, Sequence, and Details.

2.)The information is displayed across five tabs, which from left to
right, are the following: Overview, Category, Locus, Sequence, and Details.

3.)The information is displayed across five tabs, which from left to
right are the following: Overview, Category, Locus, Sequence, and Details.

 

Three different editors. Three different copy edits. I have my 'druthers,
but I thought I would reach out to all the writers on this list and get a
majority opinion. And yes, I am saying opinion, because I know that there is
an absolute right and wrong, but I need to be neutral and non-judgmental
when supplying my feedback and making the correction. Three egos are
involved. . . . 

 

TVB

 

Tammy Van Boening

Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com

www.spectrumwritingllc.com

 

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Re: [Framers] OT: Punctuation question

2019-01-07 Thread Carol J. Elkins

I've always edited to your option #1. Nonrestrictive clauses are set 
off by commas.


But my personal choice would be to restructure so that the sentence 
uses a restrictive clause:
4.) The information is displayed across five tabs that, from left 
to right, are Overview, Category, Locus, Sequence, and Details.


Carol

At 11:34 AM 1/7/2019, tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com wrote:

Consider the following three sentences:

1.)The information is displayed across five tabs, which, from left to
right, are the following: Overview, Category, Locus, Sequence, and Details.

2.)The information is displayed across five tabs, which from left to
right, are the following: Overview, Category, Locus, Sequence, and Details.

3.)The information is displayed across five tabs, which from left to
right are the following: Overview, Category, Locus, Sequence, and Details.


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Re: [Framers] OT: Punctuation question

2019-01-07 Thread tammyvb

LOL. I always edit to #1 as well - and I tried "that." The only agreement
among these three "editors" is the use of "which." (Yea, don't go there!)

TVB

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Subject: Re: [Framers] OT: Punctuation question

I've always edited to your option #1. Nonrestrictive clauses are set off by
commas.

But my personal choice would be to restructure so that the sentence uses a
restrictive clause:
4.) The information is displayed across five tabs that, from left 
to right, are Overview, Category, Locus, Sequence, and Details.

Carol

At 11:34 AM 1/7/2019, tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com wrote:
>Consider the following three sentences:
>
>1.)The information is displayed across five tabs, which, from left to
>right, are the following: Overview, Category, Locus, Sequence, and Details.
>
>2.)The information is displayed across five tabs, which from left to
>right, are the following: Overview, Category, Locus, Sequence, and Details.
>
>3.)The information is displayed across five tabs, which from left to
>right are the following: Overview, Category, Locus, Sequence, and Details.

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Re: [Framers] OT: Punctuation question

2019-01-07 Thread John Sgammato

I would just say:
The information is displayed across five tabs: Overview, Category, Locus,
Sequence, and Details.

I would assume an English-language reader would assume left to right.

On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 1:34 PM  wrote:

> Consider the following three sentences:
>
>
>
> 1.)The information is displayed across five tabs, which, from left to
> right, are the following: Overview, Category, Locus, Sequence, and Details.
>
> 2.)The information is displayed across five tabs, which from left to
> right, are the following: Overview, Category, Locus, Sequence, and Details.
>
> 3.)The information is displayed across five tabs, which from left to
> right are the following: Overview, Category, Locus, Sequence, and Details.
>
>
>
> Three different editors. Three different copy edits. I have my 'druthers,
> but I thought I would reach out to all the writers on this list and get a
> majority opinion. And yes, I am saying opinion, because I know that there
> is
> an absolute right and wrong, but I need to be neutral and non-judgmental
> when supplying my feedback and making the correction. Three egos are
> involved. . . .
>
>
>
> TVB
>
>
>
> Tammy Van Boening
>
> Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
>
> www.spectrumwritingllc.com
>
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Re: [Framers] OT: Punctuation question

2019-01-07 Thread tammyvb

You would think so, but in another part of the manual, there is a plot that
distinctly shows a legend, and instead of only referring to the legend (as
in see legend for plot details), I was required to literally explain the
legend verbatim, as in Forward is highlighted in blue, Reverse is
highlighted in red, non-directional is highlighted in black, etc. 

I am too old for this head-banging - I will pick my battles. . . 

Tammy Van Boening
Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
www.spectrumwritingllc.com

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Subject: Re: [Framers] OT: Punctuation question

I would just say:
The information is displayed across five tabs: Overview, Category, Locus,
Sequence, and Details.

I would assume an English-language reader would assume left to right.

On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 1:34 PM  wrote:

> Consider the following three sentences:
>
>
>
> 1.)The information is displayed across five tabs, which, from left to
> right, are the following: Overview, Category, Locus, Sequence, and
Details.
>
> 2.)The information is displayed across five tabs, which from left to
> right, are the following: Overview, Category, Locus, Sequence, and
Details.
>
> 3.)The information is displayed across five tabs, which from left to
> right are the following: Overview, Category, Locus, Sequence, and Details.
>
>
>
> Three different editors. Three different copy edits. I have my 
> 'druthers, but I thought I would reach out to all the writers on this 
> list and get a majority opinion. And yes, I am saying opinion, because 
> I know that there is an absolute right and wrong, but I need to be 
> neutral and non-judgmental when supplying my feedback and making the 
> correction. Three egos are involved. . . .
>
>
>
> TVB
>
>
>
> Tammy Van Boening
>
> Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
>
> www.spectrumwritingllc.com
>
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Re: [Framers] OT: Punctuation question

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Re: [Framers] OT: Punctuation question

2019-01-07 Thread Stephen Rickaby

John and Tom, yes. Simplest is best, and the three options you list are all 
massively and unnecessarily verbose. Were I editing it I would deprecate all of 
them and the punctuation.

Who is the target audience? Do they have US or UK English as their first 
language? From what ethnic culture? These are all relevant questions: for 
example, a natural order of left to right cannot always be assumed.

To be really pedantic, the following in unnecessary in your options:

- 'The information' (huh?)

- 'five tabs' (not needed because you list them_

- 'left to right' (see above)

- 'the following' (implied by the colon)

- 'and' (whatever)

Removing these, it leaves us with: 'It/This is displayed across the tabs 
Overview, Category, Locus, Sequence, Details'.

If you must have the 'and' I would removed the Oxford comma as I hate them, but 
this is a matter of local style.

Simplest is almost always best.

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Re: [Framers] OT: Punctuation question

2019-01-07 Thread Stephen Rickaby

As an afterthought, I'm not sure above 'is displayed across' either, but then I 
don't know your software. It doesn't convey much. Is the user supposed to hunt 
over the five tabs to find what they want?
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Re: [Framers] OT: Punctuation question

2019-01-07 Thread Stephen Rickaby

...and 'is displayed' is passive voice, which is usually deprecated.
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Re: [Framers] OT: Punctuation question

2019-01-07 Thread Lin Sims

How about this?

The  information is organized into five tabs. From left to right, they
are Overview, Category, Locus, Sequence, and Details.


On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 1:48 PM  wrote:

> You would think so, but in another part of the manual, there is a plot that
> distinctly shows a legend, and instead of only referring to the legend (as
> in see legend for plot details), I was required to literally explain the
> legend verbatim, as in Forward is highlighted in blue, Reverse is
> highlighted in red, non-directional is highlighted in black, etc.
>
> I am too old for this head-banging - I will pick my battles. . .
>
> Tammy Van Boening
> Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
> www.spectrumwritingllc.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers
>  On
> Behalf Of John Sgammato
> Sent: Monday, January 7, 2019 11:45 AM
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
> 
> Subject: Re: [Framers] OT: Punctuation question
>
> I would just say:
> The information is displayed across five tabs: Overview, Category, Locus,
> Sequence, and Details.
>
> I would assume an English-language reader would assume left to right.
>
> On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 1:34 PM  wrote:
>
> > Consider the following three sentences:
> >
> >
> >
> > 1.)The information is displayed across five tabs, which, from left to
> > right, are the following: Overview, Category, Locus, Sequence, and
> Details.
> >
> > 2.)The information is displayed across five tabs, which from left to
> > right, are the following: Overview, Category, Locus, Sequence, and
> Details.
> >
> > 3.)The information is displayed across five tabs, which from left to
> > right are the following: Overview, Category, Locus, Sequence, and
> Details.
> >
> >
> >
> > Three different editors. Three different copy edits. I have my
> > 'druthers, but I thought I would reach out to all the writers on this
> > list and get a majority opinion. And yes, I am saying opinion, because
> > I know that there is an absolute right and wrong, but I need to be
> > neutral and non-judgmental when supplying my feedback and making the
> > correction. Three egos are involved. . . .
> >
> >
> >
> > TVB
> >
> >
> >
> > Tammy Van Boening
> >
> > Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
> >
> > www.spectrumwritingllc.com
> >
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Re: [Framers] OT: Punctuation question

2019-01-07 Thread Mike Wickham

For comma placement, I'd pick #1, which matches the _Chicago Manual of 
Style_, but I'd also suggest tightening the sentence and removing 
passive voice. Result:


"The information displays across five tabs: Overview, Category, Locus, 
Sequence, and Details."


I would note that the Chicago style is typically used by book 
publishers, while AP style is used for newspapers. The latter omits 
certain commas and words to make them fit better into short stories in 
narrow columns. In any case, sometimes minor rewrites eliminate fights 
over punctuation.


Mike Wickham

On 1/7/2019 12:34 PM, tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com wrote:

Consider the following three sentences:

  


1.)The information is displayed across five tabs, which, from left to
right, are the following: Overview, Category, Locus, Sequence, and Details.

2.)The information is displayed across five tabs, which from left to
right, are the following: Overview, Category, Locus, Sequence, and Details.

3.)The information is displayed across five tabs, which from left to
right are the following: Overview, Category, Locus, Sequence, and Details.

  


Three different editors. Three different copy edits. I have my 'druthers,
but I thought I would reach out to all the writers on this list and get a
majority opinion. And yes, I am saying opinion, because I know that there is
an absolute right and wrong, but I need to be neutral and non-judgmental
when supplying my feedback and making the correction. Three egos are
involved. . . .

  


TVB

  


Tammy Van Boening

Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com

www.spectrumwritingllc.com

  


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[Framers] OT: Punctuation question

2019-01-07 Thread Karen Robbins

Hi Tammy,

The information* is displayed across five tabs. From left to
right, they are Overview, Category, Locus, Sequence, and Details.

* labels? titles? topics? (+ "are")

My 2¢.

Karen Robbins
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Re: [Framers] OT: Punctuation question

2019-01-07 Thread Doug

>
>
> If you must have the 'and' I would removed the Oxford comma as I hate
> them, but this is a matter of local style.
>
>
I've always thought two of a tech writer's top values are accuracy, and
avoidance of ambiguity.  The Oxford (or serial) comma is essential for both
of these.
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Re: [Framers] OT: Punctuation question

2019-01-07 Thread tammyvb

I knew I would get a flurry of answers from the list, so thanks. I have what
I need to make some substantiated edits.

Much appreciated.

Tammy Van Boening
Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
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>
>
> If you must have the 'and' I would removed the Oxford comma as I hate 
> them, but this is a matter of local style.
>
>
I've always thought two of a tech writer's top values are accuracy, and
avoidance of ambiguity.  The Oxford (or serial) comma is essential for both
of these.
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