Re: [Framers] Appearance of graphics in the generated PDF

[Caroline Tabach]

Possibly you don't have to save as html.

I can't check this right now, but docx, is itself xml.

This is how you can get graphics from a Word docx,  by changing extension
to zip

Text below is from a text from David Creamer to this list a few years ago,
but I don't remember where I learnt it

There are various tutorials on the web

I might suggest a slightly different way of getting the graphics out of a
Word file (works for PowerPoint too)...

Make sure the file is in the .docx format, not .doc (and .pptx, not .ppt)
Make a copy of the file for safety
Change the file extension from .docx to .zip
Open the zip file
Look for the doc folder (or ppt)
Look for the media folder
All the graphics are there--usually in a higher quality than a web export

Give it a try to get your graphics files


On Fri, 6 Aug 2021, 01:32 ,  wrote:

> I have an equation-laden document that I am writing. The equations are
> being
> created in a Word doc (.docx) using Word's native equation editor. The
> .docx
> file is then saved as an .htm/.html file and all the equations in the
> document are automatically saved as .pngs in a separate folder named as
> image.(n), where n is the image number.  I double-click an equation in this
> folder to automatically open the equation in my image editor (SnagIT - I
> don't need anything as heavy as Photoshop as I am not doing any
> modifications to the equations) and save the equation without any changes
> to
> it whatsoever with a new name. I then import the image into Framemaker by
> reference.   I don't mess w/ the dpi of the image when I select it for
> import - any image in the folder that was created during the saving of the
> Word file shows a dpi of 96 in the Imported Graphic Scaling dialog box when
> I select it for import and although this seems nutty to me (because none of
> the images are over-sized). . . they look clear and crisp in the source FM
> file (The Advanced Properties of any image in SnagIT is also showing a
> resolution of 96 dpi);  however, upon generation of the PDF, it goes to
> h*ll
> in a handbasket. The equation looks almost as if the font is almost bold
> and
> therefore much darker than the text in the FM source file, and it's not
> nearly as crisp and clear as in the source FM document - it actually looks
> blurry/pixelated.
>
>
>
> Initially, the font that was  being used in the equations is Cambria Math,
> Size 14 with a default color of black without any lightening of the color.
> (The font that is being used in the book is also set to a default color of
> black without any lightening of the color.) I tried lightening the font
> color by different percentages in the Word document and then regenerated
> the
> equations as graphics, and that helps a bit, but overall, these graphics
> are
> just not nearly as crisp as they need to be in the final PDF.  Any other
> graphics that were taken as a capture and then imported by reference as
> PNG
> are as crisp as I am used to in FM.
>
>
>
>
>
> I am just at a loss for how to get this cleared up, but it's absolutely
> mandatory that I get this problem resolved because the whole focus of the
> book is the equations.
>
>
>
> Any thoughts are sincerely appreciated.
>
>
>
> TVB
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Tammy Van Boening
>
> Principal/Owner
>
> Spectrum Writing, LLC
>
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>
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Re: [Framers] Appearance of graphics in the generated PDF

[Peter Gold]

On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 7:30 PM tammyvb spectrumwritingllc.com <
tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote:

> Hi Lise,
>
> I won’t bore you with all the details, but unfortunately, a screen grab
> direct from the Word doc is not an option.
>
> Thanks for replying. . . Believe me, it just helps to know that someone is
> trying for me😊
>
> Sent from my iPhone. Pardon the typos.
>
> > On Aug 5, 2021, at 5:42 PM, Lise Bible  wrote:
> >
> > Tammy, that sounds hair-tearingly-out frustrating!
>

Obviously, anyone who could coin and use a term like"hair-tearingly-out
frustrating" can imagine creative ways to solve problems that may not have
solutions.  ;) Thanks for the attempt, Lise!

I remember my small company's CEO commenting after a few of us brought him
a messy problem to sort out, "Hmmm... Too many handoffs! See if fixing that
solves it." So, I’m looking at the transformations from Word's equation
editor to HTML to PNG to PDF via FM, and wondering if somewhere along the
line there are opportunities to control the fonts. Seems like opportunities
for rounding errors to affect line widths of recalculated fonts. Perhaps
specifying a different original font size, weight, or foundry, or a
different HTML conversion tool or method might make a difference.

HTH
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Re: [Framers] Appearance of graphics in the generated PDF

[tammyvb spectrumwritingllc . com]

Hi Lise,

I won’t bore you with all the details, but unfortunately, a screen grab direct 
from the Word doc is not an option.

Thanks for replying. . . Believe me, it just helps to know that someone is 
trying for me😊

Sent from my iPhone. Pardon the typos.

> On Aug 5, 2021, at 5:42 PM, Lise Bible  wrote:
> 
> Tammy, that sounds hair-tearingly-out frustrating!
> I don't have any brilliant technical clues to help you, but would it be
> just as fast (e.g., slow) to use Snag-It to capture the equation in Word
> when it's on-screen, and save that?
> If you're already opening the exported images from Word in Snag-it, would
> that save a step?
> Or does that not result in any great advantage or better resolution? I
> don't have Snag-it on this computer so I don't know what the image
> resolution options are when capturing.
> 
> Good luck!
> Lise
> 
>> On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 5:32 PM  wrote:
>> 
>> I have an equation-laden document that I am writing. The equations are
>> being
>> created in a Word doc (.docx) using Word's native equation editor. The
>> .docx
>> file is then saved as an .htm/.html file and all the equations in the
>> document are automatically saved as .pngs in a separate folder named as
>> image.(n), where n is the image number.  I double-click an equation in this
>> folder to automatically open the equation in my image editor (SnagIT - I
>> don't need anything as heavy as Photoshop as I am not doing any
>> modifications to the equations) and save the equation without any changes
>> to
>> it whatsoever with a new name. I then import the image into Framemaker by
>> reference.   I don't mess w/ the dpi of the image when I select it for
>> import - any image in the folder that was created during the saving of the
>> Word file shows a dpi of 96 in the Imported Graphic Scaling dialog box when
>> I select it for import and although this seems nutty to me (because none of
>> the images are over-sized). . . they look clear and crisp in the source FM
>> file (The Advanced Properties of any image in SnagIT is also showing a
>> resolution of 96 dpi);  however, upon generation of the PDF, it goes to
>> h*ll
>> in a handbasket. The equation looks almost as if the font is almost bold
>> and
>> therefore much darker than the text in the FM source file, and it's not
>> nearly as crisp and clear as in the source FM document - it actually looks
>> blurry/pixelated.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Initially, the font that was  being used in the equations is Cambria Math,
>> Size 14 with a default color of black without any lightening of the color.
>> (The font that is being used in the book is also set to a default color of
>> black without any lightening of the color.) I tried lightening the font
>> color by different percentages in the Word document and then regenerated
>> the
>> equations as graphics, and that helps a bit, but overall, these graphics
>> are
>> just not nearly as crisp as they need to be in the final PDF.  Any other
>> graphics that were taken as a capture and then imported by reference as
>> PNG
>> are as crisp as I am used to in FM.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I am just at a loss for how to get this cleared up, but it's absolutely
>> mandatory that I get this problem resolved because the whole focus of the
>> book is the equations.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Any thoughts are sincerely appreciated.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> TVB
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Tammy Van Boening
>> 
>> Principal/Owner
>> 
>> Spectrum Writing, LLC
>> 
>> www.spectrumwritingllc.com 
>> 
>> 303-840-1755
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Framers] Appearance of graphics in the generated PDF

[Lise Bible]

Tammy, that sounds hair-tearingly-out frustrating!
I don't have any brilliant technical clues to help you, but would it be
just as fast (e.g., slow) to use Snag-It to capture the equation in Word
when it's on-screen, and save that?
If you're already opening the exported images from Word in Snag-it, would
that save a step?
Or does that not result in any great advantage or better resolution? I
don't have Snag-it on this computer so I don't know what the image
resolution options are when capturing.

Good luck!
Lise

On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 5:32 PM  wrote:

> I have an equation-laden document that I am writing. The equations are
> being
> created in a Word doc (.docx) using Word's native equation editor. The
> .docx
> file is then saved as an .htm/.html file and all the equations in the
> document are automatically saved as .pngs in a separate folder named as
> image.(n), where n is the image number.  I double-click an equation in this
> folder to automatically open the equation in my image editor (SnagIT - I
> don't need anything as heavy as Photoshop as I am not doing any
> modifications to the equations) and save the equation without any changes
> to
> it whatsoever with a new name. I then import the image into Framemaker by
> reference.   I don't mess w/ the dpi of the image when I select it for
> import - any image in the folder that was created during the saving of the
> Word file shows a dpi of 96 in the Imported Graphic Scaling dialog box when
> I select it for import and although this seems nutty to me (because none of
> the images are over-sized). . . they look clear and crisp in the source FM
> file (The Advanced Properties of any image in SnagIT is also showing a
> resolution of 96 dpi);  however, upon generation of the PDF, it goes to
> h*ll
> in a handbasket. The equation looks almost as if the font is almost bold
> and
> therefore much darker than the text in the FM source file, and it's not
> nearly as crisp and clear as in the source FM document - it actually looks
> blurry/pixelated.
>
>
>
> Initially, the font that was  being used in the equations is Cambria Math,
> Size 14 with a default color of black without any lightening of the color.
> (The font that is being used in the book is also set to a default color of
> black without any lightening of the color.) I tried lightening the font
> color by different percentages in the Word document and then regenerated
> the
> equations as graphics, and that helps a bit, but overall, these graphics
> are
> just not nearly as crisp as they need to be in the final PDF.  Any other
> graphics that were taken as a capture and then imported by reference as
> PNG
> are as crisp as I am used to in FM.
>
>
>
>
>
> I am just at a loss for how to get this cleared up, but it's absolutely
> mandatory that I get this problem resolved because the whole focus of the
> book is the equations.
>
>
>
> Any thoughts are sincerely appreciated.
>
>
>
> TVB
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Tammy Van Boening
>
> Principal/Owner
>
> Spectrum Writing, LLC
>
> www.spectrumwritingllc.com 
>
> 303-840-1755
>
>
>
>
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[Framers] Appearance of graphics in the generated PDF

[tammyvb]

I have an equation-laden document that I am writing. The equations are being
created in a Word doc (.docx) using Word's native equation editor. The .docx
file is then saved as an .htm/.html file and all the equations in the
document are automatically saved as .pngs in a separate folder named as
image.(n), where n is the image number.  I double-click an equation in this
folder to automatically open the equation in my image editor (SnagIT - I
don't need anything as heavy as Photoshop as I am not doing any
modifications to the equations) and save the equation without any changes to
it whatsoever with a new name. I then import the image into Framemaker by
reference.   I don't mess w/ the dpi of the image when I select it for
import - any image in the folder that was created during the saving of the
Word file shows a dpi of 96 in the Imported Graphic Scaling dialog box when
I select it for import and although this seems nutty to me (because none of
the images are over-sized). . . they look clear and crisp in the source FM
file (The Advanced Properties of any image in SnagIT is also showing a
resolution of 96 dpi);  however, upon generation of the PDF, it goes to h*ll
in a handbasket. The equation looks almost as if the font is almost bold and
therefore much darker than the text in the FM source file, and it's not
nearly as crisp and clear as in the source FM document - it actually looks
blurry/pixelated.

 

Initially, the font that was  being used in the equations is Cambria Math,
Size 14 with a default color of black without any lightening of the color.
(The font that is being used in the book is also set to a default color of
black without any lightening of the color.) I tried lightening the font
color by different percentages in the Word document and then regenerated the
equations as graphics, and that helps a bit, but overall, these graphics are
just not nearly as crisp as they need to be in the final PDF.  Any other
graphics that were taken as a capture and then imported by reference as  PNG
are as crisp as I am used to in FM. 

 

 

I am just at a loss for how to get this cleared up, but it's absolutely
mandatory that I get this problem resolved because the whole focus of the
book is the equations.

 

Any thoughts are sincerely appreciated.

 

TVB

 

 

 

Tammy Van Boening

Principal/Owner

Spectrum Writing, LLC

www.spectrumwritingllc.com  

303-840-1755

 


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