Re: [Framers] Captions

[Ant Davey]

   Hi Doug,

   My more academically inclined colleagues tell me (in Britain at least)
   table titles go above and figure titles go below.  However, I've always
   put both above.  For the reason that you state, about cross references
   going to the top of the page.  The same happens in PDFs if you have
   bookmarked the titles.  So, seeing the table or figure - or at least
   part of it - with the title has always seemed preferable.

   Ant

   On 13 December 2019 at 13:19 Doug < [1]dbailey4...@gmail.com> wrote:

   Is there an industry standard or best practice to follow when deciding

   where to place the caption for an image, table, or equation? The
   obvious

   choices are either above the object or below it.

   Also, if you place your captions below, how do you deal with making

   cross-references to the caption? In my experience the caption displays
   at

   the top of the screen after the link jump. which puts the object out of

   sight above the top of the screen in this case.

   It almost seems as if FrameMaker expects users to put captions above
   the

   object.

   Doug

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Re: [Framers] Importing large PDF documents i.e. over 1.27 metres

[Ant Davey]

   Is the PDF resolution an issue. Could the original have been saved out
   at more than 300ppi? And so, more than (about) 3,400 pixels?
   Ant

 On 08 October 2019 at 14:22 Simon BUCH <[1]simon.b...@m-ais.com>
 wrote:
 Hello,
 In all the years that I have been using Adobe FrameMaker, I know it
 can
 handle some humongous sized documents - up to 216 inches square i.e.
 5.48 metres!
 However today I found that I am unable to import a large PDF
 document at
 100%.  The PDF is 1.35m x 40cm, and FrameMaker keeps resizing it to
 be
 50% of the size.
 If I try to resize it, I get the FrameMaker warning message:
 Object size is too large or too small.
 The width and height must be between 0.125 and 3600 points.
 3600 points is only 50 inches == 1.27m
 Has anyone encountered this limitation before?
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Re: [Framers] FM19 without Creative Cloud

[Ant Davey]

   Not quite then same, but I run FM15 and CC on Windows machines with no
   issues.  And, as Jeff says, FM is not part of CC.

   Ant

 On 06 February 2019 at 13:48 Jeff Coatsworth
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 AFAIK FM2019 isn't part of the CC..
 
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 Hi guys...I'm looking to upgrade to FM19 and my people are balking
 at

 installing the Creative Cloud. Can FM19 be installed without it?
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Re: [Framers] Windows 10 backwards compatibility?

[Ant Davey]

   Hi Tammy,

   I've been using Frame 2012 and 2015 on Windows 10 (64-bit) and Acrobat
   Pro for about 3 years with no issues that I remember as giving me
   nightmares.

   Best regards,

   Ant

 On 08 January 2018 at 19:41 Tammy Van Boening wrote:
 All,
 I might be forced to upgrade to Windows 10 from Windows 7 Ultimate.
 (The
 reasons are not important.) I have FM 10, FM 12 and Adobe Acrobat
 Pro XI
 currently installed. Here is a comment that I found on HowToGeek's
 website:
 
 
 
 
 *
 Microsoft's Windows 10 seems like a big change. The version number
 alone is
 a big leap from Windows 7, and most of the default apps are
 new-style
 "universal apps," not traditional desktop apps.
 But, if you depend on traditional Windows desktop applications, you
 shouldn't worry. Don't let Windows 10's new look fool you - if an
 application ran on Windows 7, it should also run on Windows 10.
 
 
 
 
 *
 But, is this true? Will FM 10 and 12 and Adobe Acrobat XI run on
 Windows 10?
 (64-bit system). Have any of you had experience
 (good/bad/indifferent)
 running these programs on Windows 10?
 Thanks!
 TVB
 Tammy Van Boening
 Owner/Principal
 Spectrum Writing, LLC
 Tammy dot Vanboening at spectrumwritingllc.com
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Re: [Framers] Machinations of .Portrait and .Landscape

[Ant Davey]

   Thank you Peter,

   Making more master pages may have to be the way to go in the short
   term.  I can make editorial changes sometimes, but usually don't have
   the time to do that in my world.  Only one tech writer to many SMEs and
   other content providers.

   I already use InDesign for some of our outputs.  Frame is generally
   reserved for 'reports', which run into tens of pages (> 50).  Imported
   from Word, as the only text tool that our SMEs have access to (and a
   small understanding of how to use it effectively).

   Yes Rick, I really DO need to explore ExtendScript!

   Best regards,
   Ant

 On 17 February 2017 at 16:46 Peter Gold
 <peter@petergold.photography> wrote:

 Yes, altering text frame size is a high-maintenance error-prone
 strategy.

 One thing I've done, when really fine control is needed, is to work
 with
 authors to get permission to edit text so it fits layout better.
 Depending
 on the material, subject matter experts, perhaps even lawyers and
 marketers
 might be needed to avoid changing meaning in unintended ways.

 There's a formal way to enter feature requests. Others on the list
 can
 point you there.

 If you're interested, InDesign has some features that FM lacks,
 which might
 solve some of your problems, but probably won't make it worthwhile
 to
 completely adopt it and abandon FM. ID has much more powerful,
 flexible,
 and automated text-composition features, which can help text fit
 itself
 intelligently into frames. Also, its text frames offer properties
 and rules
 that adjust height, width, or both, to suit text they contain.

 HTH

 On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 7:41 AM, Ant Davey <a...@ant-davey.com>
 wrote:

 Hi All,

 Is there a way to make the .Portrait and .Landscape commands in the
 Reference pages work sensibly?

 What I want to achieve is to have the content immediately after a
 .Landscape paragraph appear on a Landscape oriented page. I don't
 want
 the specific page on which I place the marker (and those thereafter
 until told otherwise) to be landscape. Inevitably, there will be
 changes to an earlier part of a document, which will alter the page
 layout.

 In the same vein, is there a way to retain overrides when Applying
 Master Pages? For neatness, to avoid widows and orphans or fit an
 image with is descriptive text, I will sometimes lengthen the text
 frame on a page. Applying Master Pages, to get the .Landscape and
 .Portrait commands to work will throw out all my little adjustments
 and
 make their time saving benefits almost redundant.

 If there are no workarounds for this, Adobe please consider these as
 feature requests.

 Many thanks,

 Ant

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Re: [Framers] Machinations of .Portrait and .Landscape

[Ant Davey]

   Craig,

   Thank you for taking the time to respond in your 'zoned-out' state.  I
   didn't explain myself clearly...

   What I'm trying to achieve is that the .Landscape paragraph (which I'd
   insert before the content to appear on a landscape page) doesn't act
   like any other paragraph.  It appears to stick to the top of the page
   on which is is inserted.  Regardless of what content changes are made
   before it.

   And that's my issue. I work in an environment where changes are almost
   inevitable.  'Can we move this section...'  or 'I think it would be
   good if we inserted a new image/table here.'  'Let's just add these two
   paragraphs in here.' and so on.  Oh the joys of working with SMEs, who
   don't look outside their world.

   Many thanks,
   Ant

 On 17 February 2017 at 16:42 Craig Ede  wrote:

 Corrections below. Sorry, I'm still blurry eyed out here in the
 Pacific Time Zone.

 Craig

 
 From: Framers
  on
 behalf of Craig Ede 
 Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 10:36 AM
 To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
 Subject: Re: [Framers] Machinations of .Portrait and .Landscape

 You can limit the page used to one page or to persist until you
 apply another change. Consult the documentation:

 [1]http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/2015/using/using-framemake
 r-2015/frm_page_layout_pl/Assign_master_pages_to_body_pages-.htm
 Assign master pages to body pages -
 help.adobe.com
 help.adobe.com
 Assign master pages to body pages. You can assign a master page to a
 body page at any time. FrameMaker uses the template text frame from
 the master page and displays ...

 Forget the idea that you have about applying it immediately after
 your paragraph. It doesn't work that way. It works beginning with
 the paragraph you defined as assigned to the Master page in question
 (which is, after all, more sensible).

 Regarding your second question: Define another master page with the
 slightly longer page to solve that problem. Having an apply master
 pages command that respects page overrides would essentially not
 result in the application of the master pages, but acceptance of
 what you already had.

 Good luck

 Craig

 Assign master pages to body pages -
 help.adobe.com
 Assign master pages to body pages -
 help.adobe.com
 help.adobe.com
 Assign master pages to body pages. You can assign a master page to a
 body page at any time. FrameMaker uses the template text frame from
 the master page and displays ...

 help.adobe.com
 Assign master pages to body pages. You can assign a master page to a
 body page at any time. FrameMaker uses the template text frame from
 the master page and displays ...

 
 ...
 "What I want to achieve is to have the content immediately after a
 .Landscape paragraph appear on a Landscape oriented page. I don't
 want
 the specific page on which I place the marker (and those thereafter
 until told otherwise) to be landscape."
 ...

 In the same vein, is there a way to retain overrides when Applying
 Master Pages? For neatness, to avoid widows and orphans or fit an
 image with is descriptive text, I will sometimes lengthen the text
 frame on a page. Applying Master Pages, to get the .Landscape and
 .Portrait commands to work will throw out all my little adjustments
 and
 make their time saving benefits almost redundant.

 If there are no workarounds for this, Adobe please consider these as
 feature requests.

 Many thanks,

 Ant
 
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[Framers] Machinations of .Portrait and .Landscape

[Ant Davey]

   Hi All,

   Is there a way to make the .Portrait and .Landscape commands in the
   Reference pages work sensibly?

   What I want to achieve is to have the content immediately after a
   .Landscape paragraph appear on a Landscape oriented page.  I don't want
   the specific page on which I place the marker (and those thereafter
   until told otherwise) to be landscape.  Inevitably, there will be
   changes to an earlier part of a document, which will alter the page
   layout.

   In the same vein, is there a way to retain overrides when Applying
   Master Pages?  For neatness, to avoid widows and orphans or fit an
   image with is descriptive text, I will sometimes lengthen the text
   frame on a page.  Applying Master Pages, to get the .Landscape and
   .Portrait commands to work will throw out all my little adjustments and
   make their time saving benefits almost redundant.

   If there are no workarounds for this, Adobe please consider these as
   feature requests.

   Many thanks,

   Ant
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Re: [Framers] Master Page Issue

[Ant Davey]

   Only jumping in ahead of John because I'm in a different time zone...

   Open your Release Notes base document.

   In Menu bar, select Format > Page Layout > New Master page.

   In the dialog box, give your new master page a name.  FM will tell you
   it has been created.

   In Menu bar, select View > Master Pages

   Find the view of your new master page.

   To delete any unwanted text frames, place cursor on edge of bounding
   box so that a type cursor appears.

   Press CTRL and left click.  Frame will show as active with black
   squares on corners and middle of edges.  Press Delete key.

   To change size, shape, and position of other text frame, make it
   active, then with cursor inside the frame, left click and select Object
   properties.

   In the dialog box, select Dimensions.  Make changes in the new dialog
   box.

   To add graphics at the bottom of the page:

   In Menu bar, select File > Import > File

   Browse for (correctly sized) logo file, click enter, select resolution
   radio button and click Set button.

   With the image active, right click and select Object properties to set
   its offset position at the bottom of the page.

   Repeat for second logo.

   Save.

   [I usually add a graphics frame to my master pages, and place the
   imported image file inside that.  But that's because I sometimes need
   to put different images in the same place for different documents.]

   I do hope this is what you needed...

   Best regards,

   Ant

 On 26 November 2016 at 01:01 "Craig, Alison"
  wrote:
 This template will be used for every release so a Master Page is the
 preferred way to go.
 As file is likely to have edits right up until the last moment and
 the graphic is actually 2 graphics, dealing with it at the end of
 the process would a royal pain.
 So, how do I go about having a "last page" master page?
 Alison
 From: John Sgammato [mailto:john.sgamm...@actifio.com]
 Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 4:33 PM
 To: Craig, Alison
 Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Re: [Framers] Master Page Issue
 If I understand correctly, this is not a job for a master page,
 unless you create a special Master Page Last.
 You want the image to appear on the last page, which in this case is
 a left page.
 But if you use master page = Left, then it will also appear on p2.
 So you need either a custom Master Page for Last with the image, or
 else don't use a master page for this image. Simply add it to the
 last page when everything else is in order.
 On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 7:28 PM, Craig, Alison
 > wrote:
 - Windows 7 64 bit
 - Frame 12
 I have a Master Page problem that I'm not sure how to fix (I really
 hate Master Pages!)
 99% of the time my Release Notes are only 2 pages, max. This is not
 one of those times.
 Page 1 is easy to set up properly, but it's the last page I'm having
 problems with as I have a particular graphic that needs to go at the
 bottom of the page.
 Currently, when I go to Master Page view, there are 3 pages:
 * First (3 of 3)
 * Right (2 of 3)
 * Left (1 of 3)
 [cid:image002.jpg@01D24738.F4DE0F60]
 Ordinarily, I just use the first 2 pages so the graphic is on page
 Left (1 of 3) then make sure I delete the last (empty) page before
 creating the PDF.
 I have moved the graphic onto Right (2 of 3) but that doesn't work
 as it shows up on page 3 not page 4 of the finished document.
 How do I get the graphic to show up on the last page (I want an even
 number of pages).
 Alison Craig
 Technical Documentation Specialist
 BK Ultrasound |
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Re: [Framers] Frame2015 (and 12) change paragraph format for paragraph format

[Ant Davey]

   Thank you Bernard and Lin,

   Both very helpful workarounds.

   This list is GOOD.

   Best regards,

   Ant

 On 12 August 2016 at 16:20 "Bernard Aschwanden (Publishing Smarter)"
 <bern...@publishingsmarter.com> wrote:
 In FM 2015 there is an option at import to define what styles are
 used.
 Video:
 http://tv.adobe.com/watch/framemaker-2015/fm-bttr-word-import/
 For v12 as one idea, you could:
 1. import to your template
 2. click in first instance of Normal
 3. apply Body
 4. click in second instance of Normal
 5. open Paragraph Designer
 6. manually change the name "Normal" in the designer by typing in
 "Body"
 7. click Update All
 8. confirm that you want to rename all Normal to Body
 9. click in the 'original' and first 'Body' tag (from step 3)
 10. click Update All, confirm if needed
 Not pretty but it lets you get to the Body format you want.
 Bernard
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 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: [Framers] Frame2015 (and 12) change paragraph format for
 paragraph
 format
 Dear All,
 I'm using a set template to import Word into Frame and on occasion,
 Frame seems to be importing the Body paragraph format from Word as
 Normal, rather than transferring it into the Body format in Frame.
 Is there a way to get Frame to change one paragraph format into
 another, rather than just the obvious options of replacing it with a
 character format?
 Many thanks,
 Ant
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[Framers] Frame2015 (and 12) change paragraph format for paragraph format

[Ant Davey]

   Dear All,

   I'm using a set template to import Word into Frame and on occasion,
   Frame seems to be importing the Body paragraph format from Word as
   Normal, rather than transferring it into the Body format in Frame.

   Is there a way to get Frame to change one paragraph format into
   another, rather than just the obvious options of replacing it with a
   character format?

   Many thanks,

   Ant
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