Double entries in TOC
How does FM know what TOC style to associate with a heading style? I have three instances of TOC entries that show up twice: once correctly and once incorrectly. The duplicated TOC entries each use a different style. The style for the correct is an override. Is there a way to tell what part of the style causes the override? Here's a rough sample: ** About This Guide Chapter 1 About This Guide Section Title Section Title *** Same thing for the Glossary and Index. Thanks, Charlie Kyle
RE: FM8 HTML output
Judy, It sounds like you need some help setting up the numbering of chapters, headings, pages, and figures in your template. If you are in San Diego, I think Matt Sullivan is in your area and my understanding is that he is knowledgeable about FM and the TCS. His site is http://www.grafixtraining.com/ If you have to go it alone then I think the Adobe FM7.0 Classroom in a Book is a good resource. I had a great FM teacher in Boulder CO and we used that book. I'm in a similar boat in that I'm very familiar with RH, but less so with FM. Are you importing FM8 files directly or importing by reference? Importing by reference means your FM8 files stay synced with your HTML output. Two days ago I hooked up (imported by reference) an FM8 book to RH7 based on a PDF presentation from Kevin Siegal and a video by RJ Jacquez (see below). I have most of the stuff working that I need and I am trying to iron out the style mapping. I may wait to come back to this project after I've taken Kevin Siegal's virtual training class. Search for Kevin Siegal's presentation called Blurring the Production Lines here: http://www.stc.org/edu/55thConf/index.asp Kevin Siegal's site is http://www.iconlogic.com/ I plan to take his virtual training class called Integrating Adobe's Technical Communication Suite on October 18. RJ Jacquez, Adobe Product Manager, has a training video on getting started with TCS. Its located at https://admin.adobe.acrobat.com/_a295153/p13101233/ I've gone thru this a couple times and made a how doc from it. I'm getting grief from my manager because he said that he thought TCS was supposed to be integrated. He's half joking, but the additional time its taking me to figure this out from sources outside the user doc is messing up my schedule. Its too bad the product documentation from Adobe does not adequately cover the integration of FM and RH. One last thing. When the sys reqs for TCS say Intel(r) Pentium(r) 4 processor, they mean it. After a series of daily crashes, I'm upgrading my 1.5 GHz Pentium machine with 2 GB RAM to 2.8ghz p4 Dual Core processor with 2 GB RAM. Good luck and stay in touch, Charlie Kyle -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 11:54 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: FM8 HTML output Charlie, I'm trying to do the same thing. I've used RH for years, but I'm new to FM. I've finally gotten *most* of the unstructured FM functionality down and I'm moving my doc set into TCS. I'd be more than willing to share notes. I began with 1 shorter chapters (less than 100 pgs.) and was able to import them by copy to FM8 and tweak the formatting. I was also able to successfully add those by reference to RH.(At least I got topic files in RH. I haven't fiddled with the TOC and index.) Last week I attempted a much larger chapter and RH doesn't recognize it as a valid FM file. I found a thread in the user forum that said there's a file size limit. If I remember correctly, their experience was that 25MB would work. I've had 15MB files go unrecognized. I went back into FM and learned a lot about document properties and book settings, and am in the process of trying to work around that size limit. I was trying to include numbered chapters, headings, figures, and pages. I can do it successfully in 1 continuous *.fm file, but I have trouble if I have to break it into smaller files. I can get the page numbers to run consecutively, but heading, figure and table numbers restart with each new fm file! I think I may be able to further decrease my file size by entering the images by reference too, but that will take way more time than I have before my release deadline in early Dec.. (Did I mention I'm a lone writer and have to start writing the new content now?! This is a major leap of faith!) Does anyone out there have any ideas? Judy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 3:00 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Framers Digest, Vol 35, Issue 15 Send Framers mailing list submissions to framers@lists.frameusers.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/listinfo/framers or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Framers digest... Today's Topics: 1. Handling source files for translation to several languages (Andersen, Verner Engell VEA) 2. RE: FM8 HTML output (Diane Gaskill) 3. Re: FM8 HTML output (Yves Barbion) 4. Re: Hypertext command (Shlomo Perets) 5. Translation into japanese and chinese (Andersen, Verner Engell VEA) 6. Is it possible to use a PNG
FM8 HTML output
Judy, It sounds like you need some help setting up the numbering of chapters, headings, pages, and figures in your template. If you are in San Diego, I think Matt Sullivan is in your area and my understanding is that he is knowledgeable about FM and the TCS. His site is http://www.grafixtraining.com/ If you have to go it alone then I think the "Adobe FM7.0 Classroom in a Book" is a good resource. I had a great FM teacher in Boulder CO and we used that book. I'm in a similar boat in that I'm very familiar with RH, but less so with FM. Are you importing FM8 files directly or importing by reference? Importing by reference means your FM8 files stay synced with your HTML output. Two days ago I hooked up (imported by reference) an FM8 book to RH7 based on a PDF presentation from Kevin Siegal and a video by RJ Jacquez (see below). I have most of the stuff working that I need and I am trying to iron out the style mapping. I may wait to come back to this project after I've taken Kevin Siegal's virtual training class. Search for Kevin Siegal's presentation called "Blurring the Production Lines" here: http://www.stc.org/edu/55thConf/index.asp Kevin Siegal's site is http://www.iconlogic.com/ I plan to take his virtual training class called "Integrating Adobe's Technical Communication Suite" on October 18. RJ Jacquez, Adobe Product Manager, has a training video on getting started with TCS. Its located at https://admin.adobe.acrobat.com/_a295153/p13101233/ I've gone thru this a couple times and made a how doc from it. I'm getting grief from my manager because he said that he thought TCS was supposed to be integrated. He's half joking, but the additional time its taking me to figure this out from sources outside the user doc is messing up my schedule. Its too bad the product documentation from Adobe does not adequately cover the integration of FM and RH. One last thing. When the sys reqs for TCS say Intel(r) Pentium(r) 4 processor, they mean it. After a series of daily crashes, I'm upgrading my 1.5 GHz Pentium machine with 2 GB RAM to 2.8ghz p4 Dual Core processor with 2 GB RAM. Good luck and stay in touch, Charlie Kyle -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Judy Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 11:54 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: FM8 HTML output Charlie, I'm trying to do the same thing. I've used RH for years, but I'm new to FM. I've finally gotten *most* of the unstructured FM functionality down and I'm moving my doc set into TCS. I'd be more than willing to share notes. I began with 1 shorter chapters (less than 100 pgs.) and was able to import them by copy to FM8 and tweak the formatting. I was also able to successfully add those by reference to RH.(At least I got topic files in RH. I haven't fiddled with the TOC and index.) Last week I attempted a much larger chapter and RH doesn't recognize it as a valid FM file. I found a thread in the user forum that said there's a file size limit. If I remember correctly, their experience was that 25MB would work. I've had 15MB files go "unrecognized". I went back into FM and learned a lot about document properties and book settings, and am in the process of trying to work around that size limit. I was trying to include numbered chapters, headings, figures, and pages. I can do it successfully in 1 continuous *.fm file, but I have trouble if I have to break it into smaller files. I can get the page numbers to run consecutively, but heading, figure and table numbers restart with each new fm file! I think I may be able to further decrease my file size by entering the images by reference too, but that will take way more time than I have before my release deadline in early Dec.. (Did I mention I'm a lone writer and have to start writing the new content now?! This is a major leap of faith!) Does anyone out there have any ideas? Judy -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of framers-request at lists.frameusers.com Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 3:00 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Framers Digest, Vol 35, Issue 15 Send Framers mailing list submissions to framers at lists.frameusers.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/listinfo/framers or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to framers-request at lists.frameusers.com You can reach the person managing the list at framers-owner at lists.frameusers.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Framers digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Handling source files for translation to several languages (Andersen, Verner Engell VEA) 2. RE: FM8 HTML output (Dian
FM8 crashes
XP SP2, Pentium 1.5 GHz, 2 GB RAM Tech Com Suite 1.3, FM 8.0p277 With Outlook and FM open, FM seems to crash for no reason and I often get very sluggish performance in Outlook. Users around me report no slow down in their Outlook. Has anyone else had problems running FM8 concurrently with MS Office or other programs? Would a faster processor make a significant difference? Thanks, Charlie Kyle ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FM8 crashes
XP SP2, Pentium 1.5 GHz, 2 GB RAM Tech Com Suite 1.3, FM 8.0p277 With Outlook and FM open, FM seems to crash for no reason and I often get very sluggish performance in Outlook. Users around me report no slow down in their Outlook. Has anyone else had problems running FM8 concurrently with MS Office or other programs? Would a faster processor make a significant difference? Thanks, Charlie Kyle
Total Page Count on Title Page
Here a shortcut for the PDF if you have Acrobat Professional. In FM put some placeholder text on the cover such as Page count: 999. Open the PDF in Professional, select Tools \ Advanced Editing \ Touchup Text Tool, and change 999 to the correct page count. Sometimes there are problems with fonts, but its worth a shot. Charlie Kyle -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Hales-Crotchett, Nicole Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 12:52 PM To: Combs, Richard; Art Campbell Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Total Page Count on Title Page Thanks Richard, yes, this helps. I'll be going the PDF route most likely. Cheers, Nicole -Original Message- From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.co...@polycom.com] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 12:43 PM To: Art Campbell; Hales-Crotchett, Nicole Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Total Page Count on Title Page Art Campbell wrote: > On the last page of the book, create a unique tag. > > Where you want the last page count/number to display, insert a > cross-ref to the tag, using the Page building block. > Update the book Nope. Nicole said this is a folio-numbered book (chapter-page). If by Page building block, you mean <$pagenum>, that will just give you the number of the last page in the last file -- "4" if it's a 4-page index. If you're thinking of an xref format named Page, in a folio-numbered book that's probably defined as <$chapnum>-<$pagenum> -- maybe "IX-4" for that index. For a quick solution, David's idea of adding it in Acrobat will work. Or, heck, use Acrobat to determine the page count, then add it in FM and re-PDF. A longer-term, more extensible solution probably involves a script or plugin. In fact, I vaguely recall there being a FrameScript script to do this, but don't have time to track it down at the moment. HTH! Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as charlie.kyle at attachmate.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/charlie.kyle%40attac hmate.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FM8 HTML output
I am in the midst of hooking up a FM8 book to RH7. I'm following the instructions from RJ Jacquez demo at https://admin.adobe.acrobat.com/_a295153/p13101233/ This seems to be the only source of information from Adobe on how to do this. I'm importing the book by reference into an existing RH7 project and then going thru a reiterative process to fine tune stuff like style maps and xref styles. I was completely baffled by how get the FM TOC and Index associated with the Help project. As I was writing this email, I remembered a presentation by Kevin Siegal that I downloaded from the STC 2008 Conference web site. In there, I just found out that the TOC and Index have to be assigned to a RH layout. Caution! Small Digression: This process is reminding me of when I used to try to play Dungeons and Dragons from a VAX command line prompt. This was BI (Before Internet) when we had more time for such things and Games weren't part of the GNP :-) Does anyone know of a source for some information about hooking up FM8 books to RH7? Thanks, Charlie Kyle -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Matt Sullivan Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 2:29 PM To: 'Combs, Richard'; bruce.macarthur at vsea.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: FM8 HTML output If, along with FM, you have a need to keep Acrobat, Captivate or RoboHelp licenses current then the TCS is hard to beat. Along with the 4 apps is extra integration beyond HTM or Help outputs. Put Flash movies & simulations along with working 3D models into FM and output to the needed PDF or Help format. TCS 1.x is a bit finicky in setup and can have a 5-10 hour learning curve on the first project, but has a huge return on investment after setup. Currently there are only a few folks who can help with support outside Adobe. If you need help, let me know. If anyone else out there is working at a high level in this, let me (& Adobe) know and we can trade notes. -Matt Sullivan
RE: Framers Digest, Vol 34, Issue 25
This is the second empty msg I've gotten from Tony in the last couple days. I recently changed by subscription options to receive msgs. I'm trying to figure out which end has the problem. Has this happened to anyone else? Thanks, Charlie Kyle -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Marek Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 9:36 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Framers Digest, Vol 34, Issue 25 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/charlie.kyle%40attac hmate.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Framers Digest, Vol 34, Issue 25
This is the second empty msg I've gotten from Tony in the last couple days. I recently changed by subscription options to receive msgs. I'm trying to figure out which end has the problem. Has this happened to anyone else? Thanks, Charlie Kyle -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tony Marek Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 9:36 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Framers Digest, Vol 34, Issue 25 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as charlie.kyle at attachmate.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/charlie.kyle%40attac hmate.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct?
I am also a font simpleton (I hesitate to use the word ignoramus because I certainly haven't ignored font issues. But wayback in the 90s I realized that scaling fonts was a nastier job than scaling fish and the font wars between Apple and the Softies and Adobe stunk.) I'm a pacifist and a low intermediate FM 8.0 user and would also appreciate some straight forward information on fonts and FM. Even some links to relevant info would be very much appreciated. A couple weeks ago I opened some FM docs for updating and received the Missing fonts message. I looked in the online help and the FrameMaker 7 reference from Scriptorium, but I couldn't find a quick way to determine the names of the missing fonts. When FM produces the missing fonts message, does it know what fonts are missing or does it just know it can't find them? Thanks, Charlie Kyle -Original Message- From: John Sgammato [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 1:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct? I apologize for my clear ignorance on the topic of fonts. You're not the only ignorant one here. It sure would be nice if somebody knowledgeable were to pen a comprehensive article on the subject of font types and FM for Intercom. But I am certianly not knowledgeable in the subject; like many of us, I stick with what I know and hope nothing goes wrong. john ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct?
I am also a font simpleton (I hesitate to use the word ignoramus because I certainly haven't "ignored" font issues. But "wayback" in the 90s I realized that scaling fonts was a nastier job than scaling fish and the font wars between Apple and the Softies and Adobe stunk.) I'm a pacifist and a low intermediate FM 8.0 user and would also appreciate some straight forward information on fonts and FM. Even some links to relevant info would be very much appreciated. A couple weeks ago I opened some FM docs for updating and received the "Missing fonts" message. I looked in the online help and the FrameMaker 7 reference from Scriptorium, but I couldn't find a quick way to determine the names of the missing fonts. When FM produces the "missing fonts" message, does it know what fonts are missing or does it just know it can't find them? Thanks, Charlie Kyle -Original Message- From: John Sgammato [mailto:jsgamm...@imprivata.com] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 1:15 PM To: ActionA at aol.com; isaacs at adobe.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct? >I apologize for my clear ignorance on the topic of fonts. You're not the only ignorant one here. It sure would be nice if somebody knowledgeable were to pen a comprehensive article on the subject of font types and FM for Intercom. But I am certianly not knowledgeable in the subject; like many of us, I stick with what I know and hope nothing goes wrong. john
