Re: [Framers] Footnote problem Tamy

[Julie A. Sigrist]

Yes, there are, and Rick did a much better job explaining the issue. Thanks, 
Rick.

Julie Sigrist
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From: Framers 
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Footnote problem Tamy

Hi All,

Here is the link as no information that identifies my client or this 
information for them is shown in the video. And Julie S., I think this is what 
you were describing to me. Brilliant minds on this list.

https://youtu.be/VGcibNwQ0EU



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>
> Hi Tammy,
>
> I am sending you a video link that I think shows the solution. It is a 
> private link
> because I am not sure if the content of your file should be shared. If my
> solution is correct, perhaps you can share it with the list.
>
> Rick
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>
> Hi Klaus,
>
> Yes, I understand that. So how do I break the flow and be able to start adding
> new content after the last footnote in the series?
>
> Thanks!
>
> TVB
>
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> > Subject: [Framers] Footnote problem Tamy
> >
> > {table footnote, no matter what type of tag I select with point and
> > click, and then press enter to start a new line and start another tag,
> > it s like the hold ofated the table footnote will not go away. It s
> > like FrameMaker won t let me start any new tag after a table footnote.
> > It s stuck thinking everything that follows should be kept with the
> > table footnotes } Please keep in mind that a footnote/table footnote is a 
> > flow
> (terminated by §)!
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Re: [Framers] Table Footnote question

[Julie A. Sigrist]

I noticed that when adding footnotes that each paragraph has an End of flow 
symbol. To break from that I had to find the original End of flow symbol for my 
document and work from there. When testing, I inserted the table at the End of 
Flow symbol and had to go above the table to find that symbol and put my return 
in at that point.

Not sure if I explained this correctly, but hopefully it might help.

Julie Sigrist
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Table Footnote question

I might give this a try!

Thanks!

TVB

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> What about creating the next heading level *before* adding the footnotes?
> Possibly with the extra pilcrow after the table as an added buffer?
>
>
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>
> Hi Dan,
> Yeah I ve tried that too and I m just at my wit s end. After I hit a return 
> from
> the last table footnote, no matter what type of tag I select with point and 
> click,
> and then press enter to start a new line and start another tag, it s like the 
> hold
> of the table footnote will not go away. It s like FrameMaker won t let me 
> start
> any new tag after a table footnote. It s stuck thinking everything that 
> follows
> should be kept with the table footnotes
>
> I ve given up for now and have just manually numbered the footnotes because
> there s only four of them and there s no expectation that they ll change at 
> all.
> However, I still would like to know why after a table footnote when you hit
> return, and then try to point and click and setting new tag at the pilcrow,
> Framemaker isn t recognizing the new tag s properties. It appears to stay 
> stuck
> in table footnote mode.
>
> Thank you!
>
> TVB
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone. Blame Steve Jobs for any typos.
>
> > On Feb 12, 2024, at 1:55 PM, Harding, Dan 
> > mailto:dhard...@illinois.edu>> wrote:
> >
> > ?Poor man's workaround: what about putting an empty paragraph after the
> final footnote and THEN the paragraph style that is tagged to start a new
> page? Whatever is clinging to the final footnote may stick with the empty
> paragraph rather than the paragraph starting the next page.
> >
> > Not elegant, I realize, but...
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Re: [Framers] Table Footnote question

[Julie A. Sigrist]

I do not use footnotes so this may not even apply, but is there a chance a 
paragraph tag is set to keep with next paragraph?

Julie Sigrist
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Subject: [Framers] Table Footnote question

So, I hope I can adequately describe the situation I am trying to resolve. I 
have a table w/ a set table format (I call it FieldTable_Title). Each of the 
column headers in this one instance of the table has to have a footnote 
reference. There are 4 table columns, hence, four table footnotes. I have used 
the Table Footnote feature to insert the automatically numbered footnotes and 
yes, they do go after the table. Here's the rub: After the 4th footnote, I want 
to start a new page of content. I hit the Enter key at the end of the last 
table footnote and at the pilcrow, I click HeadLev1 in my paragraph catalog to 
start w/ the new content (and this tag is set to start on new page) and instead 
of a clean break from the Table Footnotes, the last table footnote is brought 
over to the top of the next page and AFTER this last table footnote, I get the 
placeholder for HeadLev1. I have tried 8 ways from Sunday to figure out how to 
"break free" from the hold of these Table Footnotes and get a c
lean break on starting new text, but everything that I am trying keeps yanking 
the last footnote over to the next page. It's not behaving as I expect in FM 
where after you put in a hard return and then point and click to change the tag 
as needed.

Help!

TIA!

Tammy Van Boening
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Re: [Framers] Track Changes has stopped working

[Julie A. Sigrist]

I just upgraded to Windows 11 at work. I see where the "Enable" command remains 
selectable, but when I start working in the file, the Track/Edit feature is 
working.

Julie

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Subject: [Framers] Track Changes has stopped working

I'm posting this for my contractor.

And note that sometimes something he tries works for a bit, then it stops
working.



Track Changes has stopped working.

At the start of the project, it was working great...and then it wasn't. I
can only assume I have somehow blocked the process.

I have tried to Enable Track Changes in my document and the Bookfile from
the Edit menu as well as using the Toolbar functions. The only action I can
make is to click OK on a pop message that says "Finished Enable Track Text
Edit in Book" but the Enable feature still remains selectable.

I have attempted to resolve this issue by performing the following steps:

* Saving as a Mif
* Update the Bookfile
* Installed the latest Updates
* Closed out of FrameMaker

However, none of these steps have worked.

I am currently using FrameMaker version 17.0.3.546

on a 64-bit OS

Running Windows 11 Home edition





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Re: [Framers] Regarding "Converting a frame maker document to a word document"

[Julie A. Sigrist]

A very professional approach, and it worked. Have one on me.

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From: Framers 
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Regarding "Converting a frame maker document to a word 
document"

Update: So, I demonstrated to my client how/why I was using 
Framemaker versus Word and explained to them that they would be going down the 
same hellacious road that they hired me to rescue them from in the first place 
if they went back to Word and I also emphasized the exorbitant cost in having 
me convert everything to Word and miracles upon miracles, here is their 
response verbatim: " We have decided to skill up with framemaker, so no worries 
about the word versions." Score one for the gipper!!!

I promised to leave them a very clean point and click template and provide a 
video of how to switch back and forth between the two conditions (SPG and 
Equations) which represent the two different guides!!!

Now, I am going to drink heavily but this time to celebrate!!!

Happy Holidays everyone!!

TVB

Tammy Van Boening
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> Thanks everyone for all the responses. Despite the "death knell" tone, I was
> 99.9% sure that that was going to be the case. Sigh. I need to reach out to my
> client and set the expectations and let them decide how badly they want to go
> down the rabbit hole - and it won't be cheap. I am still sticking with my 
> original
> solution which is to drink heavily and then run away.
>
> TVB
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> > a word document"
> >
> >
> > That may be useful for single files, but what about a book file
> > containing multiple .fm files?
> > Dennis
> >
> > --
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> >
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Re: [Framers] Regarding "Converting a frame maker document to a word document"

[Julie A. Sigrist]

I agree with Alison. I also use a FRAME > PDF > WORD option so personnel can 
edit the docs. They prefer to use something other than the comment capabilities 
of Acrobat. Usually, the conversion is relatively good, but I find many issues 
when scientific/mathematical symbols are used. It can get quite ugly.

Your client has yet to deal with long documents like this in Word. "Drink 
heavily and then run away" also sounds like a good option.

Julie Sigrist
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Regarding "Converting a frame maker document to a word 
document"

I've been using the FRAME > PDF > WORD option a lot lately (50-150 page docs) 
so the engineers can do their editing and commenting in the Word doc.

But I always preface my explanation to them with the caveat... "this creates an 
incredibly ugly Word file".

If you do the test run on 20 pages or so (pick complex pages) and do a truly 
honest quote, I can't imagine why the client would want to continue.

But " drink heavily and then run away" is a really good option as well. :-)

Alison


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Subject: Re: [Framers] Regarding "Converting a frame maker document to a word 
document"

Thanks everyone for all the responses. Despite the "death knell" tone, I was 
99.9% sure that that was going to be the case. Sigh. I need to reach out to my 
client and set the expectations and let them decide how badly they want to go 
down the rabbit hole - and it won't be cheap. I am still sticking with my 
original solution which is to drink heavily and then run away.

TVB

Tammy Van Boening
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www.spectrumwritingllc.com

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>
> That may be useful for single files, but what about a book file
> containing multiple .fm files?
> Dennis
>
> --
> Dennis Hays
> Quantum Mechanic
> +1 518.779.2322
>
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Re: [Framers] Section in a book

[Julie A. Sigrist]

https://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/using-framemaker/user-guide/frm_books_bk-book-groups-and-folders.html#topic_book-groups-and-folders__section_book-groups

You are right, there is very little information out there about "Groups". There 
is an icon next to the add a folder icon that will add a group or it is 
available under the Insert menu when you have the book selected.

Julie Sigrist
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Section in a book

So, in the online "help" for FM2019, there's a section about all the different 
things that you can add to a book, and there is a single entry that states 
"learn more about groups and how to add them," yet there is not a single 
explanation about what a group is/does and that statement is not even a link as 
the text implies. GRRR. . .

This list, as usual, is the source of help.

TVB

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> The difference between using a folder and a group when organizing files in a
> book is that you can't control the volume, chapter, etc. hierarchy in a group 
> as
> you can in a folder structure.
>
> Julie Sigrist
>
>
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> > The icon with three squares is a "Group". I've never used the group
> > feature so would have to do some research before answering further.
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> > Subject: [Framers] Section in a book
> >
> > OK All,
> >
> > Please go gently with me. I am working with a book that I haven't
> > touched in a year for some things and like 7 years for others (no
> > joke). The book is in FM2019. I have a book structure where there is a
> > component that I have named Section followed by a manually entered
> > section number, such as Section 1, Section 2, etc. it's simply a
> > d

Re: [Framers] Section in a book

[Julie A. Sigrist]

The difference between using a folder and a group when organizing files in a 
book is that you can't control the volume, chapter, etc. hierarchy in a group 
as you can in a folder structure.

Julie Sigrist


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Subject: Re: [Framers] Section in a book

Thank you

Tammy Van Boening
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>
> The icon with three squares is a "Group". I've never used the group feature so
> would have to do some research before answering further.
>
> Julie Sigrist
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> From: Framers  bounces+julie.sigrist=airbornemx@lists.frameusers.com<mailto:bounces+julie.sigrist=airbornemx@lists.frameusers.com>>
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> mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com>>
> Subject: [Framers] Section in a book
>
> OK All,
>
> Please go gently with me. I am working with a book that I haven't touched in a
> year for some things and like 7 years for others (no joke). The book is in
> FM2019. I have a book structure where there is a component that I have
> named Section followed by a manually entered section number, such as
> Section 1, Section 2, etc. it's simply a divider in the book that shows the
> different sections of the book. The icon for it is a square w/ three little 
> squares
> in it and I can expand/collapse this icon to show all the actual FM files
> underneath the section indicator.
>
> OK, how in the frick' did I create these little placeholders that aren't FM 
> files,
> but just placeholders in the overall book structure to keep/maintain different
> groups of files in the book? For the life of me, I can't figure out how I did 
> this
> and I don't see any option in the icon/toolbar above the book for adding a
> book section. G. . .
>
> I have googled this and also used the FM2019 help to no avail, and I
> desperately need to add a few more sections to this book.
>
> TIA!
>
> TVB (whose aging mind is showing w/ this question!)
>
>
> Tammy Van Boening
> Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
> www.spectrumwritingllc.com<http://www.spectrumwritingllc.com><http://www.spectrumwritingllc.com<http://www.spectrumwritingllc.com>>
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Re: [Framers] Free FrameMaker Generated Files Course

[Julie A. Sigrist]

Rick, The YouTube videos look good. You included so many topics that I learned 
the hard way, trial and error. I would definitely recommend them to someone 
starting out with FrameMaker books.

Julie Sigrist
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Take a look at my comprehensive FrameMaker Generated Files videos on
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Re: [Framers] Section in a book

[Julie A. Sigrist]

The icon with three squares is a "Group". I've never used the group feature so 
would have to do some research before answering further.

Julie Sigrist
http://www.airbornemx.com
From: Framers 
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Sent: Monday, September 11, 2023 3:36 PM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. 

Subject: [Framers] Section in a book

OK All,

Please go gently with me. I am working with a book that I haven't touched in a 
year for some things and like 7 years for others (no joke). The book is in 
FM2019. I have a book structure where there is a component that I have named 
Section followed by a manually entered section number, such as Section 1, 
Section 2, etc. it's simply a divider in the book that shows the different 
sections of the book. The icon for it is a square w/ three little squares in it 
and I can expand/collapse this icon to show all the actual FM files underneath 
the section indicator.

OK, how in the frick' did I create these little placeholders that aren't FM 
files, but just placeholders in the overall book structure to keep/maintain 
different groups of files in the book? For the life of me, I can't figure out 
how I did this and I don't see any option in the icon/toolbar above the book 
for adding a book section. G. . .

I have googled this and also used the FM2019 help to no avail, and I 
desperately need to add a few more sections to this book.

TIA!

TVB (whose aging mind is showing w/ this question!)


Tammy Van Boening
Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
www.spectrumwritingllc.com




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Re: [Framers] Landscape Page/Table Style Question

[Julie A. Sigrist]

My documents are not as large and I use unstructured FrameMaker.  I've had 
success using a master page mapping table to use paragraph tags to automate the 
master page that is used. The Tech Comm Tools FrameMaker Working with Content 
book has an excellent section explaining how to produce the mapping table on a 
reference page.

Julie Sigrist
Technical Writer


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Hello all,

Is there a way to force a particular table style to always use the Landscape 
Master Page Layout type? I've grown weary of paging through 800 pages in order 
to correct pagination when there's an insertion or deletion that causes pages 
to roll.

Thanks in advance!

Janet Goodwin
Technical Editor/Writer


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Re: [Framers] Can Someone Take the Reins?

[Julie A. Sigrist]

I also want to thank Carol & Rick for their years of service to this group. I 
started out 11 years ago in a job that required FrameMaker. I had a long 
background with Quark Xpress & InDesign, but had never seen FrameMaker and had 
no one there that could train me. Not sure what I would have done without this 
list serve that contributed hugely to my ability to learn FrameMaker.

I'm also getting ready to retire, but will never forget Rick & Carol and 
everyone on this list that has helped me out over the years.

Thank you.

Julie Sigrist
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