Can Word identify graphic file names?

[Richard Doll]

Carol,

In reference to comments made by Nancy Allison and others

Easy!!! . . .  ??? . . .
0. convert the ".doc" file to ".htm" to ".txt".
1. the < image001 . . . o.title="Yerkes_Inn_Salem_NY"/> can be 
*programatically extracted* to an ASCII "listfile.txt" via a MSVisualBasic 
prgm.
2. the CD's Images (tif & eps) can be loaded into a single "manual" work 
folder.
3. an "Adobe Photoshop CS3" script developed by Rick Quatro that is very 
successful, can convert all the ".tif"s to ".eps" files.
4. enquire of Rick, if he can script, for Frame "image calls" to all be 
changed to only call the cvt'd ".eps" image NAME.eps.

and . . . if any/all/some images are 4/color . . . you want ".EPS"!!!

best to all
dick doll

caveats - what happens to the numbers when > 999

- Original Message - 
From: "Carol J. Elkins" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 4:26 PM
Subject: Can Word identify graphic file names?


> I've been given a CD with over 1500 graphic files of all formats on
> it. These graphics are used in a MSWord-formatted manual that I need
> to convert to FrameMaker. Unlike FrameMaker, which can easily
> generate a list of external files used and will also display the
> filename of each referenced graphic, to my knowledge there is no way
> to determine the filename of any graphic used in a Word doc.
>
> I can easily generate a thumbnail catalog of the graphic files on the
> CD using Photoshop so that I can visually locate each photo in the
> manual. But geez I so seriously do not want to have to do that. Does
> anyone know a workaround in Word that will help me identify all of
> these graphic files? A macro? I am not a Word guru so all help is 
> appreciated.
>
> Carol
>
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Bookmarks in structured Frame-7.2

[Richard Doll]

Hardware:
Dell Precision 490
2Meg CPU
dual monitors
2-80Meg hard drives
Software:
WinXP Pro SP-2
FrameMaker 7.2 all patches
Acrobat 7.0 Pro and Distiller 7.0 may actually be 7.01 - 7.1

at issue:

Structured environment in FrameMaker;

trying to >Save As "pdf", defining Bookmarks as/from ? styles
(appears as though . . .) Frame goes through the pages finding and making 
necessary changes while the (SandClock) ticks . . .
Then the (SClock) reduces in size maybe 10% and distiller "boots" into the 
"active prgm" tray at bottom of screen area . . .
And regurgitates the following:


Acrobat Distiller 7.0
Started: Monday, March 09, 2009 at 22:56:23
Adobe PostScript software version: 3016.102
Start Time: Monday, March 09, 2009 at 22:56:25
Source: Copy of CP-Sec05TestEquipment.tps
Destination: C:\Anixter\09CP\Sec05\Copy of CP-Sec05TestEquipment.pdf
Adobe PDF Settings: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\Adobe 
PDF\Settings\AnixCD.joboptions
%%[ ProductName: Distiller ]%%
%%[Page: 1]%%
%%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: pdfmark; ErrorInfo: StRetrieve P303179 
]%%
Stack:
/StRetrieve
/P303179
/StoreName
-dict-

%%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%%
%%[ Warning: PostScript error. No PDF file produced. ] %%
Distill Time: 15 seconds (00:00:15)
 End of Job 
---

I have successfully >Printed/created a good PDF of the 48pp section with a 
necessarily different tack (without the Bookmarking of >Save as PDF)
This IS my first attempt at Bookmarking . . . ever . . .
Possible caveat . . . the text data is an "attribute" of the 2 structure 
elements that have their  2 "Style"s being ID'd to be bookmarked.

I'm goin' acro-batty - - -

Your help and suggestions, sincerely appreciated!!!

best to all,

dick doll
317.539.4857
sgmlindy at tds.net

Some/many 4/C .EPS ills. display slowly on page

[Richard Doll]

sys: MS WinXP-Pro SerPk2
app.FrameMaker v7.2
box:Dell Precision PWS490, 1.6 GHz, 3.* GB RAM,
C:\Software, Apps. & Ills., etc. - 80GB
F:\WorkFiles-Frame\PShop\Excel\etc. - 80GB
I:\Backup - 1TB & Carbonite (both - specified folders) . . . OK, 
so I'm paranoid.

Issue:  Some (but, not all) EPS 4/c illustrations "open" for and are
displayed on-screen much slower than others.
   All are in an SGML structured environment of a file of 8pp-240pp
having 1 to 6 ills./pg.
   Some ills. do fly/snap through the display process, other stop
2-8 sec./ill (display it - then do the next ill.- etc.).
   This issue causes some pages to take almost a minute to display
and release control for me to do any adj'ts.

I have been unable, upon viewing diff. .eps ills. to deduce the issue
causing this slowness.

I have noticed two different happenings in the Frame file open :
one . . . Initial open of the sgml file (needing conversion) - All 
pages
"snap-to" upon completion/display. - like   the ills. are "print-ready" -
two . . . Subsequent open of the .fm file - Open /displaying (if 
"mal"defined eps is/are present) SLOWLY and are now being made 
"print-ready".

Appreciate your solutions, comments or hints!

best to all,

dick doll
317.539.4857
sgmlindy at tds.net 

"Color Definition / Print Setting... is inconsistent" error

[Richard Doll]

All,

I see this "error" every-time when I try to "print"  multisection catalogs 
as a "book".
So, I print the 12-to-15 sections seperately (with NO error messages).

The cause, in my projects, I have assumed to be quite obvious.
And, the below listed work flow explains my assunption.

1. All my projects begin as an SGML provided data stream.
2. Each section/chapter has a unique-colored full-length bleed-tab ID'd in 
 >Color Definitions as "X".
3. Color "X" is used as 100% and other %ages for type and tinted-boxes 
containing type.
4. This "setup" allows me to NOT NEED to have 15x15=225 color-related 
elements/formats in addition to the other 90 or so that handle the "black" 
text and tables just to compile a catalog.

When I print as a book . . . "X" being defined differently for each 
section/chapter - - - waa-laa > error.

So, its one ata time . . . no big deal here.

best to all,

dick doll
sgmlindy at tds.net

- Original Message - 
From: "Combs, Richard" 
To: "'Garnier Garnier'" ; 

Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 12:00 AM
Subject: RE: "Color Definition / Print Setting... is inconsistent" error


> Garnier Garnier wrote:
>
>> Any ideas how I can overcome the following error?
>>
>> "Color Definition / Print Setting... is inconsistent.."
>>
>> I know it can be ignored but this becomes a hindrance if I use a script
>> to convert the FM files to pdf.
>>
>> Tried all possible suggestions available on the net but so far nothing
>> helped me resolve the same.
>>
>> Help/suggestions/workaround appreciated.
>
> I've never seen an error message with that text. Are you sure you're 
> quoting it accurately?
>
> To get any meaningful help, you'll have to provide some context. For 
> starters, the version of FM and OS, what kind of document, whether it's 
> structured or unstructured, and what you were doing when the error message 
> appeared.
>
>
> Richard G. Combs
> Senior Technical Writer
> Polycom, Inc.
> richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
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[OT] Adobe's pricing policy

[Richard Doll]

from Collins English Dictionary . . .

X (symbol)
   1. indicating a film that may not be shown to anyone under 18 years of 
age.
   2. denoting an unknown
   3. (on letters, cards, etc.) a kiss
   4. (on ballot papers, etc.) a choice
   5. (on examination papers, etc.) an error
   6. for Christ: Christian [from the glyph of Grk. letter "khi"], 1st 
letter of "Khristos"
   7. {and last} the Roman numeral for 10 from the extinct Latin 
language-alphabet

writers choice . . . XOXO - representation of "modern" binary counting 
system for 10

?? Is this thread dead yet??

RIP

dick doll

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To: 
Cc: 
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: [OT] Adobe's pricing policy


>I don't PDF often, but when I do, I use DOS XX
>
> Bernard
>
>
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> To: SteveP at kaufmanco.com
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Sent: 10/29/10 9:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [OT] Adobe's pricing policy
>
>> That would be the most interesting software in the world.
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 9:28 AM, Steve Pawlowskis  wrote:
>> > If Adobe offered version 20 for really old operating systems would it 
>> > be Acrobat DOS XX ?
>>
>> -- 
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EDIT Busted

[Richard Doll]

With no apparent reason (brown-out/blackout/earthquake/global heat) Edit 
options are gone.

WinXP Pro (ServPk 2)
2 G memory
Frame 7.2 with updates
Dell 490 Workstation
APC Power Protection

The  drop-down (1st one to the right of  lists no options 
(doesen't activate anything).
Thus I have no .
Any fix clues are appreciated.

best to all,
dick doll
sgmlindy at tds.net 

EDiT busted - SOLVED

[Richard Doll]

Sorry for post . . .Reboot solved problem.

thanks for reading.

dick

Sticky Cursor - horiz. and vert.

[Richard Doll]

MSWin XP
Frame 7.22.158
mem - 1g

Beginning yesterday in the afternoon when an object was selected for 
movement, its trajectory to the intended position was stuttered/bounced in 
about 6pt increments.

The objects involves are: Frame created "rules and shapes", Table cell 
boundaries, and Graphic (.tif or .eps) boundaries.

I know not what I have done to cause this affliction.

I have searched for all (sys & app) *.ini files and find "fmtoolbr.ini - 
9/6/07 @ 5:13" to be the only .ini file to be "Modified" since 2/5/07.

So, . . . I opened the fmtoolbr.ini in Frame as text, But, I know "nada" 
about what I see there or even if I'm looking in the correct place.

As my customers fail to accept "approximately correct" this seems to be a 
serious problem.

Many thanks for sharing your knowledge of a solution.

best to all,

dick doll
317.539.4857
sgmlindy at tds.net 

sgml . . . How to? ?attribute #CDATA to TOC after used in HF1 and HF2?

[Richard Doll]

WinXP-pro
Dell 490 Precision Workstation
2g memory
2-80g hard drvs
dual 20-in monitors
MSOffice . . . 2003-Word, Excel . . .
Adobe - Illus-10, Pshop-7, Acrob-5.5 w/Dist, FRAME-7.2.158
  Framescript, TableCleaner and ColorChameleon

Running Structured in Frame since '94, so by now I ought to know what I'm 
doing, however . . .

This DTD Code with the corresponding EDD code does yield . . .




 the correct pair of "ears"/page headings on every page, every time.

How do I also get this page heading text into a TOC. LOF or IDX with the 
page #s.

The page headings look . . .

12PT CAPS p1 |  p2 
CAPS 12PT
24Pt Cap and Lower Casep1 |  p2   Cap and 
Lower Case 24Pt


thanks for your help and the best to all,

dick doll
317.539.4857
sgmlindy at tds.net 

A Hero, not a criminal

[Richard Doll]

dear gilli,

I think this list is not the list on which you want to air Callifornican 
"feel-good"isms.
This site is dedicated to those want-to-be excellent FrameMaker 
"do-good"ers.

Not to worry though, as there is a Pro Life-b(u)oy rising that eliminates 
the affects of BO.

best to all,
dick doll
8^)
- Original Message - 
From: "Flato, Gillian" 
To: "Framers List" 
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 8:14 PM
Subject: FW: A Hero, not a criminal


> These guys should be given medals for community service. Instead they
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3 pts at top of col. 1 ... gone

[Richard Doll]

Windows XP - SP 2
Dell 490 WorkStation, 2-meg mem, 2 80-meg disks, dual monitors
FrameMaker 7.2p158, Acrobat 7.1.0, GhostScript 8.60,  Publi PDF 1.50.0292

SGML 2-column Catalog with Foredge aligned running heads (2/pg) and foredge 
bleed Section numbers in one col. table-12rows deep.

1. Running Head A - 15pt, aligned to the foredge "SECTION NAME" - text from 
Element A attribute - on Master Pg
2. Running Head B - 28pt, aligned to the foreedge "Product Name" - text from 
Element B attribute - on Master Pg
3. Top of Page - The Element after/adjacent to the Head B Element is called 
, in 2pt (can't be made less) type on 0 line space, only function is to 
cause a "Top of Next Page".
4. First text line - contains 2 Elements (Run-in Paragraph) for indexing 
only.- 6pt on 7, white
5. Second text line - contains 3 Elements (Rin-in-Paragraphs) for indexing 
only - 6pt on2 - white
6. Product Title - Element is 1st visable "black type" in a 1-col. table 
with a 35% of color tint background

ISSUE: Upon the1st page and every following page (R or L) when the next RH-B 
Element occures, the main/general text flow, has (only in col. 1), the 1st 
line of text printing 3pts higher, which is the first line of visable text 
(6.) after the Running head B Element (2.).

At 400%; a 6pt straight-line rule drawn (with its + cursor exactly on the 
top edge of . . .) from a "left" offending table across the col. margin to 
the adjacent/right col. Product Title table has the "thick" rule lay exactly 
on the tables "top" edge. Thus I say the dif. betw. the cols. is 3pts.

I have looked at the 4 MasterPage format definitions at font sizes, line 
spacing and space around this text ... both A's and B's  are identical.
NO format definitions from 1 through 6 - which is 9 formats have [negative 
(above)] spacing and all spacing is the same.

SECTIONSECTION<--- A 
Head
OldProdName   NewProdName<--- B Head
|---|  |---|   |---|  |---|   <--- Top 
of Col Boundary
 TextTextTe
TextTextTe  TextTextTe^   TextTextTe
  |
  
|_ 
LIKE THIS!!! WITH THE TEXT BLEEDING

  above the Master Page boundary ???  ?? ?
What else might I look for to correct the problem?

best to all,

dick doll
317.539.4857
sgmlindy at tds.net 

Widow Word on Widow Line . . .

[Richard Doll]

The System: Dell Precision 490 WorkStation, WinXP SP2, 2G mem, Dual 20-in 
Monitors, FM-7.2-w/upgrades, 2 80G SATA drives.

Project: 600pp SGML Catalog w/2-indicies.

Issue: After 10+ years of production, customer wishes to no longer need to 
mark proofs for *widowed widows*.

Widows are currently satisfactorily controlled with the Format> Paragraph> 
Pagination >Widow/Orphan Lines quantity.

The "Widowed Widow" is the last 2 lines of a paragraph in which the 
widowed/last  "line" contains only, a single word.

How can I control this occurance in FM.

Using VisualBasic, I can/have searched the SGML data file for the end of an 
Element "

PDF>FrameMaker>PDF Color Issue

[Richard Doll]

Why is the color within ".pdf" files containing ".eps" objects totally 
ravaged by the Windows RGB GDI upon "Import>File".
Upon "Print" for output, black and grayscale images yield some % of yellow 
and Pantone SPOT is no longer accurately definable by any pre-press software 
"PDF to printing-plate system".

Adobe does own the copyrights to all the applications involved with this 
issue.
Can you divine a wholly complete solution within FrameMaker other than "Tech 
Note" ID 324220 
http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=324220 which in a 
name is a "kluge"

What could induce the creators of the software that provides us livelihood 
and compensation, to have this seemingly small issue resolved?
So . . . it isn't a small issue . . .  Adobe isn't a small corporation 
either.
Adobe has denied access to CMYK GDI OS hardware/applications while denying 
RGB GDI OS hardware/applications to correctly interpret color for printing.

My customers are depending on color to help market their products.
What path do you suggest that I take to enable them in reaching their goals.

Adobe is depending on their customers to sell their products.
Come-on Adobe guys and gals . . . suck it up and make FrameMaker colorful 
and happy!

I am a Windows XP user of  MSWord,Excel,VisBasic,etc,
AdobeFrameMaker,InDesign,PShop,Illust AcroPro,etc,
My thanks to Grafikhuset Publi PDF and Ghostscript. for 6 years of enableing 
the solution of  all the color issues
except for this one of  IMPORTING PDF INTO FrameMaker.

best to all,

dick doll
317.539.4857
sgmlindy at tds.net 

MstrPg-Use question using RefPg-Table in Structured FrameMaker - 7.2

[Richard Doll]

Framers,

Dell - 490 WorkStation ,
Mem-4G (3.2 useable),
Dual Monitors,
Dual 80G hard Drives w/one 1T Western Digital (for backup)
DSL for data communications (sure beats USPS, FedEx 'n UPS)
Win OpSys
XP Pro - Serv Pk 3 Fully patched
FrameMaker
7.2 - Fully Patched

My tables have a Table "columns" attribute that (with a Reference-Page 
table) will control a table-specified MasterPage based on column quantity.

My tables have column-quantities from 3-6 and a 2nd group from 10-14.
The 3-6 col. group needs to be on 2-col pages and the 10-14 group on a 1-col 
(full) page
I do have 4-different Masters . . . named . . . 2cRT, 2cLft, 1cRt and 1cLft 
which do quite well when applied manually, a one or a few pages at a time.
The Section pg count varies from 30pp - 250pp with 0-2 images on full-width 
pages and 1-6 images on 2-col pages.
The Section usually begins in full width (mode) and will alternate 1-col to 
2-col three to twelve times per Section.

You can see . . . they can get quite busy and  . . . what I want is . . . 
for the Table-Columns attribute to control pagination MasterPgs upon the 
input of the SGML-data file.

Two questions . .  .
1. Is this RefPg "Element-Attribute" Table>MasterPg a real, working, 
solution?
2. Where can I find written instruct's  that offers a "great" 
instructional view of How it works and How to make it work?
3. In the "columns" attribute value is the column-count(TEXTnumber) . . 
. In the RefPg Table - in the attribute value column . . . Can I enter <8 
and cause the 2-col. Master to be used and  . . . enter >8 to cause the 
full/p-1-col Master to be used???
4. or do I need to spec each col. quantity separately???

Thanks for reading this and double Thanks for answering!

best to all,

dick doll
317.539.4857
sgmlindy at tds.net 

Structured > Find/Change>Element>Graphic>AttributeName>align . . . from acenter to aright???

[Richard Doll]

Framers,

The Find/Change function ID'd in the Subject:(above) . . .
DOES change the attribute value in the "structure window"
BUT
the actual "anchored frame" - as viewed on the page - DOES NOT move.

Your help in learnin' this old coot . . .  on using  to cause 
the graphic's move-to-the-right-margin  . . . Will be Greatly appreciated!

FYI . . .
 selecting >Special>AnchoredFrame>Alignment>Right (one image at a time) 
DOES cause the AnchoredFrame to move, as desired.
CAVEAT:--- The structure window remains >acenter???

Other FIND details are. . .
>Attribute Name: is "align" is chosen
>Attribute Value: of "acenter" finds NOTHING . . . thus I have left it 
blank and (apparently) do find and change the Graphic/AnchoredFrame (see 
line 2-4 above).


best to all,

dick doll
317.539.4857
sgmlindy at tds.net 

Frame-10 (AdoTecCom-3.5) Structured Applicaton help

[Richard Doll]

Structured Framers,

I'm an "old" 76er who has been creating 4.5-5K pp/year with versions 4 thru 
7.2 for umpteen years and now have a BIG prob.
Previous to the current dilemma, about a month ago I did order the 
AdobeTechCommSuite 3.5 and have it installed on a Win-64bit Sys.
7.2 does not want to fly any more (I think some required frame-sys file has 
been deleted).

These catalog pages begin with provided ".sgm" text files (1 file per 
section / ea. sec.varying 48 to 260 pages).
The pages have  95% of which have "framed images", and table 
columns which vary 3 to 16 columns.
Their is a lot of  "hand makeup decisions" to determine the need of being a 
1-col. page or a 2-col. page and the need for hand-placement of "continued 
from/to" lines, pdf-ads and filler pages and when completed . . . several 
indexes (a 2-col. and a 5-col being 12 or 64pp) needing to be sorted and 
concatenated.

--

The IMMEDIATE  issue is . . . getting Frame-10 to convert (via the Apps) the 
data from SGML-//HaL and O'Reilly to Frame.

Seeking "paid" help . . . to fix/heal the required "applications" - (4 of 
them) to function in Frame-10.

If interested . . . please, please, plea, pl, respond.

Adobe's response - thus far - has been to email a pdf of the current 
Structure-manual . . . which I have yet to receive.



best to all,

dick doll
317.539.4857
sgmlindy at tds.net 

Adding a version number to PDF file property

[Richard Doll]

Jon,

IF you really want/need a version "ident" as part of a file name . . . (and I 
do understand its need) . . . ??
Then you probably have need to be able to follow it back to the source.
I accomplish this by adding an "alphanairy" number after a hyphen behind and as 
part-of the "logical" file name.

?alphanairy? . . . my own system to enable l-a-r-g-e numbers with fewer 
character positions.

to whit . . .  as the 1st column a = 1 and z = 26, one can count/define a 
version for 26 different iterations in any single thing with only one letter.
   using the 2nd column aa= 27 and ab = 28 as above
such that . . 676 versions can be accomplished with 2 "alphas" when going to 
"zz ( = ing 26 squared).

a quirky solution . . . but I know of no "auto-click" to enable 
"sys-versioning" accountability'

best to all,

dick doll 
sgmlindy at tds.net


- Original Message - 
  From: jon.harvey at teradyne.com 
  To: framers at lists.frameusers.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 10:32 AM
  Subject: Re: Adding a version number to PDF file property


  {This is my first posting from this email address and I'm not sure it went 
through the first time. As a result, I'm reposting}

  

  Everyone,

  Is there a way to incorporate a version number into the properties of a PDF 
file so that it appears in Window explorer properties? To see what I mean, do 
this:

  1. In Windows Explorer, right-click any PDF file and select Properties.
  2. Select the Details tab.

  The details for the PDF include the file name, type, folder path, size, etc. 
but not a file version. However, if you view the details of an application 
file, its file version appears.

  How can I add the file version properties for a PDF file?

  ... Jon




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Very slow paging in FM 10 in graphic-heavy files

[Richard Doll]

Very slow paging in FM 10 in graphic-heavy filesTammy,

What type of graphic(s) are involved???

.eps, .tif, .???, or .pfs

note - if printed output is needed . . . colors in CMYK will be required and 
FM-10 will not mess with them, even in the Windows environment.

and you will probably want 300dpi for best results

and (in my case. . . of 3k catalog pp/yr - each averaging 3.25 images/p) - .tif 
processes the quickest.

i do not know the physical difference between .eps and .tif,

but, a 4.3k .eps file  = the print quality of the same graphic when it is a 
.tif at 1.25k.

size must have something to do with amount of processing involved.

changing to .tifs has saved me sooo much time . . . is now a pleasure to see 
the progress-bar actually hurry across the screen.

if you need a script to do this conversion . . . talk with Rick Quatro


  - Original Message - 
  From: Tammy Van Boening 
  To: 'framers' 
  Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 6:40 PM
  Subject: Very slow paging in FM 10 in graphic-heavy files


  FM 10.0 (all patched and current)/Win 7, 64 -bit

  I have a book with 10 chapters and some appendices. Many of the chapters are 
graphic-laden, but all graphics are imported by reference. None are copied. 
Over the last few months when working on this book, I have noticed that paging 
through the opened chapters is taking an increased amount of time and that the 
files are very slow to refresh with the appropriate graphics displayed. I have 
tried the CTRL + L trick as well as the tried and true Page Up/Page Down trick 
to get the pages to refresh faster and that doesn't seem to help at all. It's 
really slowing me down to try to move through the chapters this way. If I need 
to get somewhere fast, I use the CTRL/G function to go to a specific page and 
then hope I am w/in one or two pages of where I want to be.

  This issue just seems to have progressed and gotten worse and worse over 
time, and I haven't added any more plugins/changed the setup, etc. 


  I was just wondering if anyone else has seen this issue/encountered this over 
time with FM10.

  TIA,

  TVB




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jpg images

[Richard Doll]

all,

?what version(s) of Framemaker (structured) supports and processes jpeg 
format images?

and

?what is the impact of their use in ink-on-paper (high quality 300dpi) 
printing?

best to all,

dick doll
317.539.4857
sgmlindy at tds.net 

NO Bolding of font being transfered from Frame7 into Frame10 via Acro10 ". pdf" via "Save as PDF"

[Richard Doll]

all,

Bolding of font in Frame-7 environment IS visable on-screen upon/after 
loading into Frame-10 . . .

HOWEVER . . .the Acrobat-10 SAVE AS PDF output  is "Plain/Normal".

I'm clue-less!!

Your HELP sincerly appreciated

best to all,

dick doll
317.539.4857
sgmlindy at tds.net 

dual monitor serup ? - Frame-10

[Richard Doll]

all,

have been doing structured catalog pages since ver. 4 when the 3.5-in. 
floppy was in a "hard"-envelope and have accomplished this with a variety of 
Dell WorkStations, all using dual monitors.

the dual monitors allow full-size facing pages on screen-1 and 
char.-para.-table.-designer with struct,-access, tool-bar, and two other
(mod-pods) located on screen-2. This set-up allows ALL the functionality to 
be in view all-the-time and is quick-access.

??? can/HOW can this be set-up on a new Dell-WS win7/64-bit sys for 
Frame-10???

the dual-screen "card" does allow for an application window to be 
drug-across both screens, if necessary.

anyway . . . who might you recommend calling to instruct me in set-up of 
this environment, or where is this kind of set-up defined. ???

thanks very much for your response!!!

best to all,

dick doll
317.539.4857
sgmlindy at tds.net 

Structured Table (Indents) from SGML structtired/tagged data

[Richard Doll]

Is there a solution other than Rick's Table Cleaner???

Hardware: Dell 340 Workstation
OpSys:Win2K
AppWare: Frame 7.0, Acrobat 5.+, Illus 10, PShop 7.0, MSWord, MSVisualBasic
6.+

Table style change:Catalog with "new" table style . . .!!! Tables now
Left Indensted 18pts from column boundary!!!
Problem:Table positioned with correct indent; BUT, now extend 18pts past
the right column boundary???

My actions:
saved new table style with new name.into new template
saved new table style in new named edd
imported new edd into new template
added new "application" into the SGML conversion file
manually checked table style in new template, its exactly correct

Current project is about 1000pp having about 7500 tables and 4000 images . .
. HELP!!!

I do not mind using Rick's Table Cleaner . . . just concerned if/or what
I've incorrectly done or not done.

best to all,

dick doll
sgmlindy at tds,net
All outgoing mail & attachments checked by Norton AntiVirus.

Font Management

[Richard Doll]

1st . . .many thanks to those who responded to my "dual-monitor" ???s
is was an eays install!
but, the grand-kids are still amazed at . . . how the cursor goes through a 
vertical desk part onto the adjacent screen. . . .and so am I.

Font Management . . .
I'm still using Abobe Type Manager Deluxe with no apparent problems.
Distiller knows where all the fonts live.
I use this "old" application to "activate" families . . .
Is this viable or not.

best to all,
dick doll
sgmlindy at tds.net
all mail and attachments chacked by Norton Antivirus

Dual Monitor(s) ??s

[Richard Doll]

As many of you have touted the advantages of dual monitors . . . My ??s
follow:

Replacing 4-yr. old (now too slow) Dell 360 Precision WrkStation with:
NewSys: WinXP Pro - Dell 490 PrecisionWorkStation - 2G Mem - 80Gig Hard
Drv - Dual Monitor IntFace/Contrlr
Apps: FMkr 7.2 - PShop - Illustrtr - AcrobtPro 5.05 w/Dstlr - MSWrd -
VisualBasic - ColourChameleon

Try'd 24" Wide Screen on this sys; but, aspect of wide-screen only stretches
display to fill monitor area. Such that 8.5x11-in page at 100% displays at
10.25x11 . . . like its quite chubby. Type and graphics also display
pixelized/distorted. Can change aspect to normal, but then, margins are
completely dead and type still pixcelized.
So, returning 2407 monitor for two regular (aspect) screens.

Question(s) is . . . How to direct certain apps to display on which screen
and (FMkr) how to have (para/table/structure/etc). designer "drop-downs" to
appear on screen2 next to the screen1 that would display the main/page
window.
And . . . should I care how the mouse knows that the right boundary of
screen #1 is really the left edge of screen #2 and will flow across? Or,
will I also need multi-mices? 8^)

best to all,
dick doll
sgmlindy at tds,net
All outgoing mail & attachments checked by Norton AntiVirus.

Adobe Acrobat 7.1

[Richard Doll]

all,

have desperate need for disc having installable Acrobat Pro ver: 7.1, with 
all necessary passwords.

please advise desired price $$

best to all,

dick doll
317.539.4857
sgmlindy at tds.net 

FrameMaker-7.2/Acrobat7.1 Issue

[Richard Doll]

the function of my catalog production for 15yrs has been as follows 
(sort-of).

1. input and page SGML text w/image calls into Frame with EDD styling.
2. crop/resize the .eps/.tif images (when nec.) and modify (when nec.) the 
text.
3. print via Acrobat to PDF and FTP to cust.
4. revise from cust. marked proof where nec. / and reprint for OK & extract 
TOC data.
5. In Frame "import" the opening "Section" PDF [p1] and the "TOC" [p2] - 
both unnumbered.
6. still in Frame "typeset and overlay" the TOC text and print the 2pp to 
PDF.
- - - Now comes the NEW TODAY problem - - -
7. in Acrobat . . . open the "body/text"-PDF and INSERT the 2p TOC "before" 
p1 of the body pp. [any quan. 16 to 256+]

7. errors . . . upon the INSERT  and dies without error message

I did call Adobe Support where the issue was acknowledged as a prob. and was 
connected to a tech and did as requested.

in order to replace/download an updated Acrobat . . .
I 1st needed to "remove" the current/existing version
which I did, then downloaded . . . and key'd in the "new" activation" 
24-digit number to have it error out.
Support details follow . . . Who should I contact NOW???

--
messages to/from support latest 1st
Notes from Customer
Friday, May 17, 2013 8:00:32 PM PDT
I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO HAVE THE Adobe Acrobat THAT WAS DOWNLOADED TODAY 
"activated with the number

1016-1415-6479-6184-1333-2468

   NOT working. . is rejected

ONLY successful action of this "download" process was DELETING/REMOVING the 
original and operating version of Acrobat at your direction.

So, NOW I have NO Acrobat.

Can you repair/my loss???

dick doll Phn. 317-539-4857

Notes from Customer
Friday, May 17, 2013 6:18:29 PM PDT
activation # of downloaded Adobe Acrobat Pro 7.0 FAILED,

Your process required (deletion of loaded program) and with activstion 
failure . . . NOW I HAVE NO ACROBAT.

And, NOW . . . What do I do.

Notes to Customer
Friday, May 17, 2013 1:45:35 PM PDT
Hi Richard,
Thank you for contacting Adobe. You contacted us as you wanted to know about 
activation of Adobe product.
We hope we were able to reslove your concern.
If you have any concerns or any further questions please feel free to 
contact us again, we are available 24x7.
Thanks,
jijo francis
Adobe Customer Support

-
best to all,

dick doll
317.539.4857
sgmlindy at tds.net 

OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

[Richard Doll]

all Adobe users

also signed the petition . . . because (follows)

had recent issues with customer supplied images as PDF (would crash my Acrobat 
7.1).
emailed "Support" who said "they knew of and had a fix to download, but would 
require me to delete/remove my 7.1.
asked them 3x more - all with "yes" response to remonal.
"activation" FAILED - with NO FURTHER response forthcoming.
except . . . could download "trial" of Acro-XI . . . and they desperately 
pushed for "subscription into the cloud".
opted for "purchase" which does function fine . . . just each launch has 
message box of "xx days remaining/ready to subscribe?"

all of which reminds me of my Frame-10 install of last Sept.
and its crash on 1/1/2013 with Notice . . . You have EXPIRED.
OPS!
maybe it was just a test of code embedded as request for more $$.

beware of stuff that emanates within clouds
If in doubt . . . ask a resident of Oklahoma City.


Scrooge
Graphic Communications
sgmlindy at tds.net
  - Original Message - 
  From: Shlomo Perets 
  To: framers at lists.frameusers.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 12:35 PM
  Subject: RE: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only


  Just signed the petition and indicated the following as the reason for 
signing:



  "It is really a matter of letting users choose, rather than aggressively 
force this or that option them. 

  Clearly, many Adobe users are still using older versions because many newer 
versions/upgrades were mediocre, half-baked, not too promising and/or too 
expensive. Instead of making an effort to produce inspiring/irresistible 
upgrades, they want to force all to constantly pay for the same software."



  [nothing original. I'm sure that these points and many other valid points 
were already made in the different threads in so many forums]





  Shlomo Perets



  MicroType, http:// microtype.com 

  FrameMaker/Acrobat/Captivate training & consulting * FM-to-Acrobat 
TimeSavers/Assistants



  Enable and encourage user input in PDFs (viewed with Adobe Reader) 
  Half-hour webinar (free; no fluff, no hype, no nonsense), June 5, starting 
9am PDT
  https://www3.gotomeeting.com/register/157658438









  -- Original message --




  At 14:54 -0700 20/5/13, Karen Robbins wrote:

  Adam Engst's article in TidBITs, Creative Cloud Complaints Darken Adobe's 
View of the Future, (http://tidbits.com/e/13765) 
makes/shares some excellent points. If the Creative Cloud experiment succeeds, 
TCS/FrameMaker could be next.

  I see from this article that there is a petition on Change.org to try to 
persuade Adobe to abandon this sales model. Please go here if you feel strongly 
about this issue:

  






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Adobe was hacked

[Richard Doll]

all,

AND . . . if you were a Frame-10 user on January 1, 2013 . . . you know 
EXPIRED SUBSCRIPTION embeded code . . . really does function.

ooops

So . . . if one does cease to "auto"-pay  . . . shall you become promptly 
de-ceased?

?Has anyone "on subscription" tried changing/advancing their system clock 
2-3 months to see if anything odd occurs?

please advise

cha-CHANG$$$

Dick Doll (Frame user since V4.1 thru V10)
graphic communications, llc
sgmlindy at tds.net

- Original Message - 
From: "Alan T Litchfield" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 6:46 PM
Subject: Re: Adobe was hacked


> The increased threat is the adoption of subscription payments where 
> previously different mechanisms were used to pay for this stuff. Now, 
> much is online and therefore vulnerable.
>
> It is the point you make that is the issue (and the answer to your own 
> question). What happens when your license expires? When a person takes 
> the default the option to have credit card details saved and reused at 
> renewal time, then that opens the doors for the criminal element to  "have 
> a go". That is an increased threat.
>
> Why should we trust a corporation for whom we have no direct 
> relationship, especially those who work within? A corporation that  wants 
> no relationship with us except to provide a product and dictates  a 
> payment method that provides the threat of harm? Yet, there is an 
> expectation of trust when credit card and other details are provided. 
> Adobe plays a patriarchal role in selectively ignoring pleas from its 
> customers (dependants) and in return those dependants respond with 
> increased offerings of trust and forgiveness when any kind of weakness  on 
> the part of the patriarch is displayed. Dependants are caused to  question 
> their own values and belief in the system when they ought to  be 
> questioning the system's values and making demands that services  are 
> provided so that trust is warranted.
>
> Alan
>
>
> On 5/10/2013, at 10:08 AM, Robert Lauriston wrote:
>
>> What increased threat? Trial, subscription, and purchase are identical
>> except for if and when the license expires.
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Alan T Litchfield > > wrote:
>>
>>> umm, is this a good time to bring up the new subscription licensing 
>>> model
>>> and its inherent weaknesses (or should I say the increased threat  of 
>>> harm
>>> through attack and incompetent data management practices) ?
>
> --
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> AlphaByte
> PO Box 1941, Auckland, 1140
> New Zealand
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dual monitor serup ? - Frame-10

[Richard Doll]

all,

have been doing structured catalog pages since ver. 4 when the 3.5-in. 
floppy was in a "hard"-envelope and have accomplished this with a variety of 
Dell WorkStations, all using dual monitors.


the dual monitors allow full-size facing pages on screen-1 and 
char.-para.-table.-designer with struct,-access, tool-bar, and two other
(mod-pods) located on screen-2. This set-up allows ALL the functionality to 
be in view all-the-time and is quick-access.


¿¿¿ can/HOW can this be set-up on a new Dell-WS win7/64-bit sys for 
Frame-10???


the dual-screen "card" does allow for an application window to be 
drug-across both screens, if necessary.


anyway . . . who might you recommend calling to instruct me in set-up of 
this environment, or where is this kind of set-up defined. ???


thanks very much for your response!!!

best to all,

dick doll
317.539.4857
sgmli...@tds.net 


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Re: Very slow paging in FM 10 in graphic-heavy files

[Richard Doll]

Very slow paging in FM 10 in graphic-heavy filesTammy,

What type of graphic(s) are involved???

.eps, .tif, .???, or .pfs

note - if printed output is needed . . . colors in CMYK will be required and 
FM-10 will not mess with them, even in the Windows environment.

and you will probably want 300dpi for best results

and (in my case. . . of 3k catalog pp/yr - each averaging 3.25 images/p) - .tif 
processes the quickest.

i do not know the physical difference between .eps and .tif,

but, a 4.3k .eps file  = the print quality of the same graphic when it is a 
.tif at 1.25k.

size must have something to do with amount of processing involved.

changing to .tifs has saved me sooo much time . . . is now a pleasure to see 
the progress-bar actually hurry across the screen.

if you need a script to do this conversion . . . talk with Rick Quatro


  - Original Message - 
  From: Tammy Van Boening 
  To: 'framers' 
  Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 6:40 PM
  Subject: Very slow paging in FM 10 in graphic-heavy files


  FM 10.0 (all patched and current)/Win 7, 64 -bit

  I have a book with 10 chapters and some appendices. Many of the chapters are 
graphic-laden, but all graphics are imported by reference. None are copied. 
Over the last few months when working on this book, I have noticed that paging 
through the opened chapters is taking an increased amount of time and that the 
files are very slow to refresh with the appropriate graphics displayed. I have 
tried the CTRL + L trick as well as the tried and true Page Up/Page Down trick 
to get the pages to refresh faster and that doesn't seem to help at all. It's 
really slowing me down to try to move through the chapters this way. If I need 
to get somewhere fast, I use the CTRL/G function to go to a specific page and 
then hope I am w/in one or two pages of where I want to be.

  This issue just seems to have progressed and gotten worse and worse over 
time, and I haven't added any more plugins/changed the setup, etc. 


  I was just wondering if anyone else has seen this issue/encountered this over 
time with FM10.

  TIA,

  TVB




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jpg images

[Richard Doll]

all,

¿what version(s) of Framemaker (structured) supports and processes jpeg 
format images?


and

¿what is the impact of their use in ink-on-paper (high quality 300dpi) 
printing?


best to all,

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317.539.4857
sgmli...@tds.net 


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FrameMaker-7.2/Acrobat7.1 Issue

[Richard Doll]

the function of my catalog production for 15yrs has been as follows 
(sort-of).


1. input and page SGML text w/image calls into Frame with EDD styling.
2. crop/resize the .eps/.tif images (when nec.) and modify (when nec.) the 
text.

3. print via Acrobat to PDF and FTP to cust.
4. revise from cust. marked proof where nec. / and reprint for OK & extract 
TOC data.
5. In Frame "import" the opening "Section" PDF [p1] and the "TOC" [p2] - 
both unnumbered.
6. still in Frame "typeset and overlay" the TOC text and print the 2pp to 
PDF.

- - - Now comes the NEW TODAY problem - - -
7. in Acrobat . . . open the "body/text"-PDF and INSERT the 2p TOC "before" 
p1 of the body pp. [any quan. 16 to 256+]


7. errors . . . upon the INSERT  and dies without error message

I did call Adobe Support where the issue was acknowledged as a prob. and was 
connected to a tech and did as requested.


in order to replace/download an updated Acrobat . . .
I 1st needed to "remove" the current/existing version
which I did, then downloaded . . . and key'd in the "new" activation" 
24-digit number to have it error out.

Support details follow . . . Who should I contact NOW???

--
messages to/from support latest 1st
Notes from Customer
Friday, May 17, 2013 8:00:32 PM PDT
I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO HAVE THE Adobe Acrobat THAT WAS DOWNLOADED TODAY 
"activated with the number


1016-1415-6479-6184-1333-2468

  NOT working. . is rejected

ONLY successful action of this "download" process was DELETING/REMOVING the 
original and operating version of Acrobat at your direction.


So, NOW I have NO Acrobat.

Can you repair/my loss???

dick doll Phn. 317-539-4857

Notes from Customer
Friday, May 17, 2013 6:18:29 PM PDT
activation # of downloaded Adobe Acrobat Pro 7.0 FAILED,

Your process required (deletion of loaded program) and with activstion 
failure . . . NOW I HAVE NO ACROBAT.


And, NOW . . . What do I do.

Notes to Customer
Friday, May 17, 2013 1:45:35 PM PDT
Hi Richard,
Thank you for contacting Adobe. You contacted us as you wanted to know about 
activation of Adobe product.

We hope we were able to reslove your concern.
If you have any concerns or any further questions please feel free to 
contact us again, we are available 24x7.

Thanks,
jijo francis
Adobe Customer Support

-
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317.539.4857
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Re: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

[Richard Doll]

all Adobe users

also signed the petition . . . because (follows)

had recent issues with customer supplied images as PDF (would crash my Acrobat 
7.1).
emailed "Support" who said "they knew of and had a fix to download, but would 
require me to delete/remove my 7.1.
asked them 3x more - all with "yes" response to remonal.
"activation" FAILED - with NO FURTHER response forthcoming.
except . . . could download "trial" of Acro-XI . . . and they desperately 
pushed for "subscription into the cloud".
opted for "purchase" which does function fine . . . just each launch has 
message box of "xx days remaining/ready to subscribe?"

all of which reminds me of my Frame-10 install of last Sept.
and its crash on 1/1/2013 with Notice . . . You have EXPIRED.
OPS!
maybe it was just a test of code embedded as request for more $$.

beware of stuff that emanates within clouds
If in doubt . . . ask a resident of Oklahoma City.


Scrooge
Graphic Communications
sgmli...@tds.net
  - Original Message - 
  From: Shlomo Perets 
  To: framers@lists.frameusers.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 12:35 PM
  Subject: RE: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only


  Just signed the petition and indicated the following as the reason for 
signing:

   

  "It is really a matter of letting users choose, rather than aggressively 
force this or that option them. 

  Clearly, many Adobe users are still using older versions because many newer 
versions/upgrades were mediocre, half-baked, not too promising and/or too 
expensive. Instead of making an effort to produce inspiring/irresistible 
upgrades, they want to force all to constantly pay for the same software."

   

  [nothing original. I'm sure that these points and many other valid points 
were already made in the different threads in so many forums]

   

   

  Shlomo Perets

   

  MicroType, http:// microtype.com 

  FrameMaker/Acrobat/Captivate training & consulting * FM-to-Acrobat 
TimeSavers/Assistants

   

  Enable and encourage user input in PDFs (viewed with Adobe Reader) 
  Half-hour webinar (free; no fluff, no hype, no nonsense), June 5, starting 
9am PDT
  https://www3.gotomeeting.com/register/157658438

   

   

   

   

  -- Original message --




  At 14:54 -0700 20/5/13, Karen Robbins wrote:

  Adam Engst's article in TidBITs, Creative Cloud Complaints Darken Adobe's 
View of the Future, (http://tidbits.com/e/13765) 
makes/shares some excellent points. If the Creative Cloud experiment succeeds, 
TCS/FrameMaker could be next.

  I see from this article that there is a petition on Change.org to try to 
persuade Adobe to abandon this sales model. Please go here if you feel strongly 
about this issue:

  


   



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Adobe Acrobat 7.1

[Richard Doll]

all,

have desperate need for disc having installable Acrobat Pro ver: 7.1, with 
all necessary passwords.


please advise desired price $$

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Re: Adobe was hacked

[Richard Doll]

all,

AND . . . if you were a Frame-10 user on January 1, 2013 . . . you know 
EXPIRED SUBSCRIPTION embeded code . . . really does function.


   ooops

So . . . if one does cease to "auto"-pay  . . . shall you become promptly 
de-ceased?


¿Has anyone "on subscription" tried changing/advancing their system clock 
2-3 months to see if anything odd occurs?


please advise

cha-CHANG$$$

Dick Doll (Frame user since V4.1 thru V10)
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- Original Message - 
From: "Alan T Litchfield" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 6:46 PM
Subject: Re: Adobe was hacked


The increased threat is the adoption of subscription payments where 
previously different mechanisms were used to pay for this stuff. Now, 
much is online and therefore vulnerable.


It is the point you make that is the issue (and the answer to your own 
question). What happens when your license expires? When a person takes 
the default the option to have credit card details saved and reused at 
renewal time, then that opens the doors for the criminal element to  "have 
a go". That is an increased threat.


Why should we trust a corporation for whom we have no direct 
relationship, especially those who work within? A corporation that  wants 
no relationship with us except to provide a product and dictates  a 
payment method that provides the threat of harm? Yet, there is an 
expectation of trust when credit card and other details are provided. 
Adobe plays a patriarchal role in selectively ignoring pleas from its 
customers (dependants) and in return those dependants respond with 
increased offerings of trust and forgiveness when any kind of weakness  on 
the part of the patriarch is displayed. Dependants are caused to  question 
their own values and belief in the system when they ought to  be 
questioning the system's values and making demands that services  are 
provided so that trust is warranted.


Alan


On 5/10/2013, at 10:08 AM, Robert Lauriston wrote:


What increased threat? Trial, subscription, and purchase are identical
except for if and when the license expires.

On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Alan T Litchfield  wrote:

umm, is this a good time to bring up the new subscription licensing 
model
and its inherent weaknesses (or should I say the increased threat  of 
harm

through attack and incompetent data management practices) ?


--
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AlphaByte
PO Box 1941, Auckland, 1140
New Zealand
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NO Bolding of font being transfered from Frame7 into Frame10 via Acro10 ". pdf" via "Save as PDF"

[Richard Doll]

all,

Bolding of font in Frame-7 environment IS visable on-screen upon/after 
loading into Frame-10 . . .


HOWEVER . . .the Acrobat-10 SAVE AS PDF output  is "Plain/Normal".

I'm clue-less!!

Your HELP sincerly appreciated

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Some/many 4/C .EPS ills. display slowly on page

[Richard Doll]

sys: MS WinXP-Pro SerPk2
app.FrameMaker v7.2
box:Dell Precision PWS490, 1.6 GHz, 3.* GB RAM,
   C:\Software, Apps. & Ills., etc. - 80GB
   F:\WorkFiles-Frame\PShop\Excel\etc. - 80GB
   I:\Backup - 1TB & Carbonite (both - specified folders) . . . OK, 
so I'm paranoid.


Issue:  Some (but, not all) EPS 4/c illustrations "open" for and are
displayed on-screen much slower than others.
  All are in an SGML structured environment of a file of 8pp-240pp
having 1 to 6 ills./pg.
  Some ills. do fly/snap through the display process, other stop
2-8 sec./ill (display it - then do the next ill.- etc.).
  This issue causes some pages to take almost a minute to display
and release control for me to do any adj'ts.

I have been unable, upon viewing diff. .eps ills. to deduce the issue
causing this slowness.

I have noticed two different happenings in the Frame file open :
   one . . . Initial open of the sgml file (needing conversion) - All 
pages

"snap-to" upon completion/display. - like   the ills. are "print-ready" -
   two . . . Subsequent open of the .fm file - Open /displaying (if 
"mal"defined eps is/are present) SLOWLY and are now being made 
"print-ready".


Appreciate your solutions, comments or hints!

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Re: [OT] Adobe's pricing policy

[Richard Doll]

from Collins English Dictionary . . .

X (symbol)
  1. indicating a film that may not be shown to anyone under 18 years of 
age.

  2. denoting an unknown
  3. (on letters, cards, etc.) a kiss
  4. (on ballot papers, etc.) a choice
  5. (on examination papers, etc.) an error
  6. for Christ: Christian [from the glyph of Grk. letter "khi"], 1st 
letter of "Khristos"
  7. {and last} the Roman numeral for 10 from the extinct Latin 
language-alphabet


writers choice . . . XOXO - representation of "modern" binary counting 
system for 10


¿¿ Is this thread dead yet??

RIP

dick doll

- Original Message - 
From: 

To: 
Cc: 
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: [OT] Adobe's pricing policy



I don't PDF often, but when I do, I use DOS XX

Bernard


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To: ste...@kaufmanco.com
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Sent: 10/29/10 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: [OT] Adobe's pricing policy


That would be the most interesting software in the world.

On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 9:28 AM, Steve Pawlowskis  wrote:
> If Adobe offered version 20 for really old operating systems would it 
> be Acrobat DOS XX ?


--
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Re: "Color Definition / Print Setting... is inconsistent" error

[Richard Doll]

All,

I see this "error" every-time when I try to "print"  multisection catalogs 
as a "book".

So, I print the 12-to-15 sections seperately (with NO error messages).

The cause, in my projects, I have assumed to be quite obvious.
And, the below listed work flow explains my assunption.

1. All my projects begin as an SGML provided data stream.
2. Each section/chapter has a unique-colored full-length bleed-tab ID'd in 
>Color Definitions as "X".
3. Color "X" is used as 100% and other %ages for type and tinted-boxes 
containing type.
4. This "setup" allows me to NOT NEED to have 15x15=225 color-related 
elements/formats in addition to the other 90 or so that handle the "black" 
text and tables just to compile a catalog.


When I print as a book . . . "X" being defined differently for each 
section/chapter - - - waa-laa > error.


So, its one ata time . . . no big deal here.

best to all,

dick doll
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- Original Message - 
From: "Combs, Richard" 
To: "'Garnier Garnier'" ; 


Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 12:00 AM
Subject: RE: "Color Definition / Print Setting... is inconsistent" error



Garnier Garnier wrote:


Any ideas how I can overcome the following error?

"Color Definition / Print Setting... is inconsistent.."

I know it can be ignored but this becomes a hindrance if I use a script
to convert the FM files to pdf.

Tried all possible suggestions available on the net but so far nothing
helped me resolve the same.

Help/suggestions/workaround appreciated.


I've never seen an error message with that text. Are you sure you're 
quoting it accurately?


To get any meaningful help, you'll have to provide some context. For 
starters, the version of FM and OS, what kind of document, whether it's 
structured or unstructured, and what you were doing when the error message 
appeared.



Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
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rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
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Structured > Find/Change>Element>Graphic>AttributeName>align . . . from acenter to aright???

[Richard Doll]

Framers,

The Find/Change function ID'd in the Subject:(above) . . .
   DOES change the attribute value in the "structure window"
   BUT
   the actual "anchored frame" - as viewed on the page - DOES NOT move.

Your help in learnin' this old coot . . .  on using  to cause 
the graphic's move-to-the-right-margin  . . . Will be Greatly appreciated!


FYI . . .
selecting >Special>AnchoredFrame>Alignment>Right (one image at a time) 
DOES cause the AnchoredFrame to move, as desired.

   CAVEAT:--- The structure window remains >acenter???

Other FIND details are. . .
   >Attribute Name: is "align" is chosen
   >Attribute Value: of "acenter" finds NOTHING . . . thus I have left it 
blank and (apparently) do find and change the Graphic/AnchoredFrame (see 
line 2-4 above).



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MstrPg-Use question using RefPg-Table in Structured FrameMaker - 7.2

[Richard Doll]

Framers,

Dell - 490 WorkStation ,
   Mem-4G (3.2 useable),
   Dual Monitors,
   Dual 80G hard Drives w/one 1T Western Digital (for backup)
   DSL for data communications (sure beats USPS, FedEx 'n UPS)
Win OpSys
   XP Pro - Serv Pk 3 Fully patched
FrameMaker
   7.2 - Fully Patched

My tables have a Table "columns" attribute that (with a Reference-Page 
table) will control a table-specified MasterPage based on column quantity.


My tables have column-quantities from 3-6 and a 2nd group from 10-14.
The 3-6 col. group needs to be on 2-col pages and the 10-14 group on a 1-col 
(full) page
I do have 4-different Masters . . . named . . . 2cRT, 2cLft, 1cRt and 1cLft 
which do quite well when applied manually, a one or a few pages at a time.
The Section pg count varies from 30pp - 250pp with 0-2 images on full-width 
pages and 1-6 images on 2-col pages.
The Section usually begins in full width (mode) and will alternate 1-col to 
2-col three to twelve times per Section.


You can see . . . they can get quite busy and  . . . what I want is . . . 
for the Table-Columns attribute to control pagination MasterPgs upon the 
input of the SGML-data file.


Two questions . .  .
   1. Is this RefPg "Element-Attribute" Table>MasterPg a real, working, 
solution?
   2. Where can I find written instruct's  that offers a "great" 
instructional view of How it works and How to make it work?
   3. In the "columns" attribute value is the column-count(TEXTnumber) . . 
. In the RefPg Table - in the attribute value column . . . Can I enter <8 
and cause the 2-col. Master to be used and  . . . enter >8 to cause the 
full/p-1-col Master to be used???

   4. or do I need to spec each col. quantity separately???

Thanks for reading this and double Thanks for answering!

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Frame-10 (AdoTecCom-3.5) Structured Applicaton help

[Richard Doll]

Structured Framers,

I'm an "old" 76er who has been creating 4.5-5K pp/year with versions 4 thru 
7.2 for umpteen years and now have a BIG prob.
Previous to the current dilemma, about a month ago I did order the 
AdobeTechCommSuite 3.5 and have it installed on a Win-64bit Sys.
7.2 does not want to fly any more (I think some required frame-sys file has 
been deleted).


These catalog pages begin with provided ".sgm" text files (1 file per 
section / ea. sec.varying 48 to 260 pages).
The pages have  95% of which have "framed images", and table 
columns which vary 3 to 16 columns.
Their is a lot of  "hand makeup decisions" to determine the need of being a 
1-col. page or a 2-col. page and the need for hand-placement of "continued 
from/to" lines, pdf-ads and filler pages and when completed . . . several 
indexes (a 2-col. and a 5-col being 12 or 64pp) needing to be sorted and 
concatenated.


--

The IMMEDIATE  issue is . . . getting Frame-10 to convert (via the Apps) the 
data from SGML-//HaL and O'Reilly to Frame.


Seeking "paid" help . . . to fix/heal the required "applications" - (4 of 
them) to function in Frame-10.


If interested . . . please, please, plea, pl, respond.

Adobe's response - thus far - has been to email a pdf of the current 
Structure-manual . . . which I have yet to receive.




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Re: Adding a version number to PDF file property

[Richard Doll]

Jon,

IF you really want/need a version "ident" as part of a file name . . . (and I 
do understand its need) . . . ??
Then you probably have need to be able to follow it back to the source.
I accomplish this by adding an "alphanairy" number after a hyphen behind and as 
part-of the "logical" file name.

¿alphanairy? . . . my own system to enable l-a-r-g-e numbers with fewer 
character positions.

to whit . . .  as the 1st column a = 1 and z = 26, one can count/define a 
version for 26 different iterations in any single thing with only one letter.
   using the 2nd column aa= 27 and ab = 28 as above
such that . . 676 versions can be accomplished with 2 "alphas" when going to 
"zz ( = ing 26 squared).

a quirky solution . . . but I know of no "auto-click" to enable 
"sys-versioning" accountability'

best to all,

dick doll 
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- Original Message - 
  From: jon.har...@teradyne.com 
  To: framers@lists.frameusers.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 10:32 AM
  Subject: Re: Adding a version number to PDF file property


  {This is my first posting from this email address and I'm not sure it went 
through the first time. As a result, I'm reposting}

  

  Everyone,

  Is there a way to incorporate a version number into the properties of a PDF 
file so that it appears in Window explorer properties? To see what I mean, do 
this:

  1. In Windows Explorer, right-click any PDF file and select Properties.
  2. Select the Details tab.

  The details for the PDF include the file name, type, folder path, size, etc. 
but not a file version. However, if you view the details of an application 
file, its file version appears.

  How can I add the file version properties for a PDF file?

  ... Jon




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Sticky Cursor - horiz. and vert.

[Richard Doll]

MSWin XP
Frame 7.22.158
mem - 1g

Beginning yesterday in the afternoon when an object was selected for 
movement, its trajectory to the intended position was stuttered/bounced in 
about 6pt increments.


The objects involves are: Frame created "rules and shapes", Table cell 
boundaries, and Graphic (.tif or .eps) boundaries.


I know not what I have done to cause this affliction.

I have searched for all (sys & app) *.ini files and find "fmtoolbr.ini - 
9/6/07 @ 5:13" to be the only .ini file to be "Modified" since 2/5/07.


So, . . . I opened the fmtoolbr.ini in Frame as text, But, I know "nada" 
about what I see there or even if I'm looking in the correct place.


As my customers fail to accept "approximately correct" this seems to be a 
serious problem.


Many thanks for sharing your knowledge of a solution.

best to all,

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sgml . . . How to? ?attribute #CDATA to TOC after used in HF1 and HF2?

[Richard Doll]

WinXP-pro
Dell 490 Precision Workstation
2g memory
2-80g hard drvs
dual 20-in monitors
MSOffice . . . 2003-Word, Excel . . .
Adobe - Illus-10, Pshop-7, Acrob-5.5 w/Dist, FRAME-7.2.158
 Framescript, TableCleaner and ColorChameleon

Running Structured in Frame since '94, so by now I ought to know what I'm 
doing, however . . .


This DTD Code with the corresponding EDD code does yield . . .




the correct pair of "ears"/page headings on every page, every time.

How do I also get this page heading text into a TOC. LOF or IDX with the 
page #s.


The page headings look . . .

12PT CAPS p1 |  p2 
CAPS 12PT
24Pt Cap and Lower Casep1 |  p2   Cap and 
Lower Case 24Pt



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PDF>FrameMaker>PDF Color Issue

[Richard Doll]

Why is the color within ".pdf" files containing ".eps" objects totally 
ravaged by the Windows RGB GDI upon "Import>File".
Upon "Print" for output, black and grayscale images yield some % of yellow 
and Pantone SPOT is no longer accurately definable by any pre-press software 
"PDF to printing-plate system".

Adobe does own the copyrights to all the applications involved with this 
issue.
Can you divine a wholly complete solution within FrameMaker other than "Tech 
Note" ID 324220 
http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=324220 which in a 
name is a "kluge"

What could induce the creators of the software that provides us livelihood 
and compensation, to have this seemingly small issue resolved?
So . . . it isn't a small issue . . .  Adobe isn't a small corporation 
either.
Adobe has denied access to CMYK GDI OS hardware/applications while denying 
RGB GDI OS hardware/applications to correctly interpret color for printing.

My customers are depending on color to help market their products.
What path do you suggest that I take to enable them in reaching their goals.

Adobe is depending on their customers to sell their products.
Come-on Adobe guys and gals . . . suck it up and make FrameMaker colorful 
and happy!

I am a Windows XP user of  MSWord,Excel,VisBasic,etc,
AdobeFrameMaker,InDesign,PShop,Illust AcroPro,etc,
My thanks to Grafikhuset Publi PDF and Ghostscript. for 6 years of enableing 
the solution of  all the color issues
except for this one of  IMPORTING PDF INTO FrameMaker.

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Widow Word on Widow Line . . .

[Richard Doll]

The System: Dell Precision 490 WorkStation, WinXP SP2, 2G mem, Dual 20-in 
Monitors, FM-7.2-w/upgrades, 2 80G SATA drives.

Project: 600pp SGML Catalog w/2-indicies.

Issue: After 10+ years of production, customer wishes to no longer need to 
mark proofs for *widowed widows*.

Widows are currently satisfactorily controlled with the Format> Paragraph> 
Pagination >Widow/Orphan Lines quantity.

The "Widowed Widow" is the last 2 lines of a paragraph in which the 
widowed/last  "line" contains only, a single word.

How can I control this occurance in FM.

Using VisualBasic, I can/have searched the SGML data file for the end of an 
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3 pts at top of col. 1 ... gone

[Richard Doll]

Windows XP - SP 2
Dell 490 WorkStation, 2-meg mem, 2 80-meg disks, dual monitors
FrameMaker 7.2p158, Acrobat 7.1.0, GhostScript 8.60,  Publi PDF 1.50.0292

SGML 2-column Catalog with Foredge aligned running heads (2/pg) and foredge 
bleed Section numbers in one col. table-12rows deep.

1. Running Head A - 15pt, aligned to the foredge "SECTION NAME" - text from 
Element A attribute - on Master Pg
2. Running Head B - 28pt, aligned to the foreedge "Product Name" - text from 
Element B attribute - on Master Pg
3. Top of Page - The Element after/adjacent to the Head B Element is called 
, in 2pt (can't be made less) type on 0 line space, only function is to 
cause a "Top of Next Page".
4. First text line - contains 2 Elements (Run-in Paragraph) for indexing 
only.- 6pt on 7, white
5. Second text line - contains 3 Elements (Rin-in-Paragraphs) for indexing 
only - 6pt on2 - white
6. Product Title - Element is 1st visable "black type" in a 1-col. table 
with a 35% of color tint background

ISSUE: Upon the1st page and every following page (R or L) when the next RH-B 
Element occures, the main/general text flow, has (only in col. 1), the 1st 
line of text printing 3pts higher, which is the first line of visable text 
(6.) after the Running head B Element (2.).

At 400%; a 6pt straight-line rule drawn (with its + cursor exactly on the 
top edge of . . .) from a "left" offending table across the col. margin to 
the adjacent/right col. Product Title table has the "thick" rule lay exactly 
on the tables "top" edge. Thus I say the dif. betw. the cols. is 3pts.

I have looked at the 4 MasterPage format definitions at font sizes, line 
spacing and space around this text ... both A's and B's  are identical.
NO format definitions from 1 through 6 - which is 9 formats have [negative 
(above)] spacing and all spacing is the same.

SECTIONSECTION<--- A 
Head
OldProdName   NewProdName<--- B Head
|---|  |---|   |---|  |---|   <--- Top 
of Col Boundary
 TextTextTe
TextTextTe  TextTextTe^   TextTextTe
  |
  
|_ 
LIKE THIS!!! WITH THE TEXT BLEEDING
 
  above the Master Page boundary ???  ?? ?
What else might I look for to correct the problem?

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Re: A Hero, not a criminal

[Richard Doll]

dear gilli,

I think this list is not the list on which you want to air Callifornican 
"feel-good"isms.
This site is dedicated to those want-to-be excellent FrameMaker 
"do-good"ers.

Not to worry though, as there is a Pro Life-b(u)oy rising that eliminates 
the affects of BO.

best to all,
dick doll
8^)
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Bookmarks in structured Frame-7.2

[Richard Doll]

Hardware:
Dell Precision 490
2Meg CPU
dual monitors
2-80Meg hard drives
Software:
WinXP Pro SP-2
FrameMaker 7.2 all patches
Acrobat 7.0 Pro and Distiller 7.0 may actually be 7.01 - 7.1

at issue:

Structured environment in FrameMaker;

trying to >Save As "pdf", defining Bookmarks as/from ¶ styles
(appears as though . . .) Frame goes through the pages finding and making 
necessary changes while the (SandClock) ticks . . .
Then the (SClock) reduces in size maybe 10% and distiller "boots" into the 
"active prgm" tray at bottom of screen area . . .
And regurgitates the following:


Acrobat Distiller 7.0
Started: Monday, March 09, 2009 at 22:56:23
Adobe PostScript software version: 3016.102
Start Time: Monday, March 09, 2009 at 22:56:25
Source: Copy of CP-Sec05TestEquipment.tps
Destination: C:\Anixter\09CP\Sec05\Copy of CP-Sec05TestEquipment.pdf
Adobe PDF Settings: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\Adobe 
PDF\Settings\AnixCD.joboptions
%%[ ProductName: Distiller ]%%
%%[Page: 1]%%
%%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: pdfmark; ErrorInfo: StRetrieve P303179 
]%%
Stack:
/StRetrieve
/P303179
/StoreName
-dict-

%%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%%
%%[ Warning: PostScript error. No PDF file produced. ] %%
Distill Time: 15 seconds (00:00:15)
 End of Job 
---

I have successfully >Printed/created a good PDF of the 48pp section with a 
necessarily different tack (without the Bookmarking of >Save as PDF)
This IS my first attempt at Bookmarking . . . ever . . .
Possible caveat . . . the text data is an "attribute" of the 2 structure 
elements that have their  2 "Style"s being ID'd to be bookmarked.

I'm goin' acro-batty - - -

Your help and suggestions, sincerely appreciated!!!

best to all,

dick doll
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Re: Can Word identify graphic file names?

[Richard Doll]

Carol,

In reference to comments made by Nancy Allison and others

Easy!!! . . .  ??? . . .
0. convert the ".doc" file to ".htm" to ".txt".
1. the < image001 . . . o.title="Yerkes_Inn_Salem_NY"/> can be 
*programatically extracted* to an ASCII "listfile.txt" via a MSVisualBasic 
prgm.
2. the CD's Images (tif & eps) can be loaded into a single "manual" work 
folder.
3. an "Adobe Photoshop CS3" script developed by Rick Quatro that is very 
successful, can convert all the ".tif"s to ".eps" files.
4. enquire of Rick, if he can script, for Frame "image calls" to all be 
changed to only call the cvt'd ".eps" image NAME.eps.

and . . . if any/all/some images are 4/color . . . you want ".EPS"!!!

best to all
dick doll

caveats - what happens to the numbers when > 999

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Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 4:26 PM
Subject: Can Word identify graphic file names?


> I've been given a CD with over 1500 graphic files of all formats on
> it. These graphics are used in a MSWord-formatted manual that I need
> to convert to FrameMaker. Unlike FrameMaker, which can easily
> generate a list of external files used and will also display the
> filename of each referenced graphic, to my knowledge there is no way
> to determine the filename of any graphic used in a Word doc.
>
> I can easily generate a thumbnail catalog of the graphic files on the
> CD using Photoshop so that I can visually locate each photo in the
> manual. But geez I so seriously do not want to have to do that. Does
> anyone know a workaround in Word that will help me identify all of
> these graphic files? A macro? I am not a Word guru so all help is 
> appreciated.
>
> Carol
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Structured Table (Indents) from SGML structtired/tagged data

[Richard Doll]

Is there a solution other than Rick's Table Cleaner???

Hardware: Dell 340 Workstation
OpSys:Win2K
AppWare: Frame 7.0, Acrobat 5.+, Illus 10, PShop 7.0, MSWord, MSVisualBasic
6.+

Table style change:Catalog with "new" table style . . .!!! Tables now
Left Indensted 18pts from column boundary!!!
Problem:Table positioned with correct indent; BUT, now extend 18pts past
the right column boundary???

My actions:
saved new table style with new name.into new template
saved new table style in new named edd
imported new edd into new template
added new "application" into the SGML conversion file
manually checked table style in new template, its exactly correct

Current project is about 1000pp having about 7500 tables and 4000 images . .
. HELP!!!

I do not mind using Rick's Table Cleaner . . . just concerned if/or what
I've incorrectly done or not done.

best to all,

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Dual Monitor(s) ??s

[Richard Doll]

As many of you have touted the advantages of dual monitors . . . My ??s
follow:

Replacing 4-yr. old (now too slow) Dell 360 Precision WrkStation with:
NewSys: WinXP Pro - Dell 490 PrecisionWorkStation - 2G Mem - 80Gig Hard
Drv - Dual Monitor IntFace/Contrlr
Apps: FMkr 7.2 - PShop - Illustrtr - AcrobtPro 5.05 w/Dstlr - MSWrd -
VisualBasic - ColourChameleon

Try'd 24" Wide Screen on this sys; but, aspect of wide-screen only stretches
display to fill monitor area. Such that 8.5x11-in page at 100% displays at
10.25x11 . . . like its quite chubby. Type and graphics also display
pixelized/distorted. Can change aspect to normal, but then, margins are
completely dead and type still pixcelized.
So, returning 2407 monitor for two regular (aspect) screens.

Question(s) is . . . How to direct certain apps to display on which screen
and (FMkr) how to have (para/table/structure/etc). designer "drop-downs" to
appear on screen2 next to the screen1 that would display the main/page
window.
And . . . should I care how the mouse knows that the right boundary of
screen #1 is really the left edge of screen #2 and will flow across? Or,
will I also need multi-mices? 8^)

best to all,
dick doll
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Font Management

[Richard Doll]

1st . . .many thanks to those who responded to my "dual-monitor" ???s
is was an eays install!
but, the grand-kids are still amazed at . . . how the cursor goes through a 
vertical desk part onto the adjacent screen. . . .and so am I.


Font Management . . .
I'm still using Abobe Type Manager Deluxe with no apparent problems.
Distiller knows where all the fonts live.
I use this "old" application to "activate" families . . .
Is this viable or not.

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EDIT Busted

[Richard Doll]

With no apparent reason (brown-out/blackout/earthquake/global heat) Edit 
options are gone.


WinXP Pro (ServPk 2)
2 G memory
Frame 7.2 with updates
Dell 490 Workstation
APC Power Protection

The  drop-down (1st one to the right of  lists no options 
(doesen't activate anything).

Thus I have no .
Any fix clues are appreciated.

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EDiT busted - SOLVED

[Richard Doll]

Sorry for post . . .Reboot solved problem.

thanks for reading.

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