table anchor location

[Timothy DeWees]

I've been struggling to get a table anchor to be at the bottom of one page
and the table to start at the next. This is something that seems to really
be important to my client.  I understand that I can tell the table to start
at the top of a page, but then the anchor ends up on a blank page all by
itself.  I've tried to set the anchor format to keep it with the previous
paragraph, but rather than the anchor moving back to the previous page, it
will pull the last line of text from the previous page to the top of next
page with the anchor. I've also tried setting negative space at the top of
my table, but the anchor still takes up a little bit of space and my client
will notice this.  I'm thinking there must be something simple here that I
am missing. Thanks for any help.



Tim

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Converting images with searchable text

[Timothy DeWees]

I'm working in a large, complex book (3000+ pages).  One of my co-workers
was tasked with creating some new images for the book using visio. I
suggested converting the visio images into pdf images and pulling them
into the book that way thinking that the text within the images would be
searchable. The text within the original pdf images is searchable. But once
the entire book is converted to pdf, the text in the images is no longer
searchable.  I understand that I can run OCR on the new pdf file and the
text will be made searchable.  I was wondering though if there is something
I can do in the process of converting the visio figures and pulling them
into the frame book where the text would still be searchable after the frame
book is converted to pdf?  I did some research and there seemed to be
varying opinions on this, with some recommending third-party software.  But
I was wondering what I could do to improve this process without using
third-party software?  Thanks in advance for your help. 

 

Tim

 

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Converting images with searchable text

[Timothy DeWees]

I'm working in a large, complex book (3000+ pages).  One of my co-workers
was tasked with creating some new images for the book using visio. I
suggested converting the visio images into pdf "images" and pulling them
into the book that way thinking that the text within the images would be
searchable. The text within the original pdf images is searchable. But once
the entire book is converted to pdf, the text in the images is no longer
searchable.  I understand that I can run OCR on the new pdf file and the
text will be made searchable.  I was wondering though if there is something
I can do in the process of converting the visio figures and pulling them
into the frame book where the text would still be searchable after the frame
book is converted to pdf?  I did some research and there seemed to be
varying opinions on this, with some recommending third-party software.  But
I was wondering what I could do to improve this process without using
third-party software?  Thanks in advance for your help. 



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RE: global master page changes

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Thanks everyone for the great advice on the master pages. My client loved
the idea of using date variables.  I've been using frame for several years
and still find there are elements of it that I under-utilize.  Better to
have too many options than not enough.

Tim DeWees



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[Timothy DeWees]

Thanks everyone for the great advice on the master pages. My client loved
the idea of using date variables.  I've been using frame for several years
and still find there are elements of it that I under-utilize.  Better to
have too many options than not enough.

Tim DeWees

global master page changes

[Timothy DeWees]

I have a document that changes very frequently, sometimes every month. The
client likes to have a version in the header, such as March 2013
Version, April 2013 Version, etc.  Is there a way to globally revise all
of my master pages in the book from say March to April in the header title?
I'm currently running FM10 and would prefer to do this without using
framescript since not everyone working with these documents has framescript.
Thanks in advance for the help.

 

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[Timothy DeWees]

I have a document that changes very frequently, sometimes every month. The
client likes to have a "version" in the header, such as "March 2013
Version", "April 2013 Version," etc.  Is there a way to globally revise all
of my master pages in the book from say March to April in the header title?
I'm currently running FM10 and would prefer to do this without using
framescript since not everyone working with these documents has framescript.
Thanks in advance for the help.



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RE: FM10 special character

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Thanks Robert and everyone for the help. I always learn a lot of new useful
stuff here. 

-Original Message-
From: robert.lauris...@gmail.com [mailto:robert.lauris...@gmail.com] On
Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2012 2:00 PM
To: Timothy DeWees; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: FM10 special character

The rightward arrow is Unicode U+2192.

The first thing you need to do is choose a font that that character.
At least in Windows 7, Arial, Courier New, and Times New Roman all have it.
You can use Windows' (not FrameMaker's) Character Map utility's Advanced
View to check other fonts.

If necessary, you can define a character tag to apply that font to U+2192.

On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 2:30 AM, Timothy DeWees tdew...@charter.net wrote:
 We upgraded to FM10 this year and now I'm having trouble creating a 
 special character.  I'm trying to create a right arrow, as in a chemical
equation.
 (I have the special toolbar, but it doesn't include this.) I can't 
 seem to get this symbol using the old FM8 method of using a character 
 and applying a symbol character tag.  I looked online and it 
 suggests using the character palette, but I can't get that to open.  
 It seems maybe that was in FM9, but not included in FM10?  Thanks in
advance for any advice!

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[Timothy DeWees]

We upgraded to FM10 this year and now I'm having trouble creating a special
character.  I'm trying to create a right arrow, as in a chemical equation.
(I have the special toolbar, but it doesn't include this.) I can't seem to
get this symbol using the old FM8 method of using a character and applying a
symbol character tag.  I looked online and it suggests using the character
palette, but I can't get that to open.  It seems maybe that was in FM9, but
not included in FM10?  Thanks in advance for any advice!

 

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RE: FM10 Special Character

[Timothy DeWees]

Shmuel, thanks for the ASCII codes. I used to have that list, but lost it at
some point.   Unfortunately it doesn't have that arrow on it that I was
looking for, but it has a lot of other useful symbols.

 

Rick, thanks. But I still can't find that palette.  I even managed to get my
UI pretty messed up trying different things, but no palette.  I've been
using FM10 for at least six months now and am underwhelmed.  I preferred
FM8. 

 

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FM10 Special Character

[Timothy DeWees]

Shmuel, thanks for the ASCII codes. I used to have that list, but lost it at
some point.   Unfortunately it doesn't have that arrow on it that I was
looking for, but it has a lot of other useful symbols.



Rick, thanks. But I still can't find that palette.  I even managed to get my
UI pretty messed up trying different things, but no palette.  I've been
using FM10 for at least six months now and am underwhelmed.  I preferred
FM8. 



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FM10 special character

[Timothy DeWees]

Thanks Robert and everyone for the help. I always learn a lot of new useful
stuff here. 

-Original Message-
From: robert.lauriston at gmail.com [mailto:robert.lauris...@gmail.com] On
Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2012 2:00 PM
To: Timothy DeWees; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: FM10 special character

The rightward arrow is Unicode U+2192.

The first thing you need to do is choose a font that that character.
At least in Windows 7, Arial, Courier New, and Times New Roman all have it.
You can use Windows' (not FrameMaker's) Character Map utility's Advanced
View to check other fonts.

If necessary, you can define a character tag to apply that font to U+2192.

On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 2:30 AM, Timothy DeWees  wrote:
> We upgraded to FM10 this year and now I'm having trouble creating a 
> special character.  I'm trying to create a right arrow, as in a chemical
equation.
> (I have the special toolbar, but it doesn't include this.) I can't 
> seem to get this symbol using the old FM8 method of using a character 
> and applying a "symbol" character tag.  I looked online and it 
> suggests using the character palette, but I can't get that to open.  
> It seems maybe that was in FM9, but not included in FM10?  Thanks in
advance for any advice!

FM10 special character

[Timothy DeWees]

We upgraded to FM10 this year and now I'm having trouble creating a special
character.  I'm trying to create a right arrow, as in a chemical equation.
(I have the special toolbar, but it doesn't include this.) I can't seem to
get this symbol using the old FM8 method of using a character and applying a
"symbol" character tag.  I looked online and it suggests using the character
palette, but I can't get that to open.  It seems maybe that was in FM9, but
not included in FM10?  Thanks in advance for any advice!



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RE: FM10 converting to italics

[Timothy DeWees]

Rebecca,

 

It does look now like it's a missing font issue. Our client still uses Times
which is an ancient font. Every time I upgrade something, whether frame, or
acrobat, or Windows, I get problems with this font being missing. I should
have thought of that right off. Looking at my FM8 maker.ini file, it's still
not clear to me how my FM8 was locating this font. I think I need to located
it on my old computer and install it in the normal location of my new
machine.

 

Thanks for your help.

 

Tim

 

From: rebecca officer [mailto:rebecca.offi...@alliedtelesis.co.nz] 
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 4:49 PM
To: Timothy DeWees
Subject: Re: FM10 converting to italics

 

How weird.

 

Did you have any font remapping in your frame 8 maker.ini file?

 

And have you tried washing a file through mif to see if the problem
disappears?

 

Good luck with this one!

Rebecca

 Timothy DeWees tdew...@charter.net 2/04/12 03:33 

Sorry if this has been discussed before, but I just upgraded to FM10. For
some reason when I convert to pdf, paragraph text always converts in
italics. I can take a document I created a while ago in FM8, open it with
FM8 and convert to pdf with no problem. But if I open the exact same
document in FM10 and convert to pdf, all of the body text is in italics.
???

 

Tim DeWees


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RE: FM10 converting to italics

[Timothy DeWees]

Thanks Mike, I was able to correct the problem by adding a font file
timr45w.ttf to my fonts folder. I did notice the line you mentioned in the
maker.ini file, but wasn't sure why it worked with FM8 and not FM10. In any
case, I think having the right font file is better in the long run than
having it substitute. It was confusing because it turned out I had the Times
italic and bold fonts, but FM8 was substituting for the plain Times font. I
had never noticed it before. Anyway, problem solved, thanks.

 

From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Mike Wickham
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 10:24 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: FM10 converting to italics

 

Times is also one of the basic PostScript fonts built into PostScript
printers. If you can't find it installed, you may be able to locate it on
the installation disk of a PostScript printer.

You can also remap Times to Times New Roman in the [UnknownToKnowFontMap]
section of maker.ini. The following entry is there by default, but may have
gotten turned off:

Times, *, *, *=Times New Roman, *, *, *

Mike Wickham

On 4/2/2012 5:04 AM, Timothy DeWees wrote: 

Rebecca,

 

It does look now like it's a missing font issue. Our client still uses Times
which is an ancient font. Every time I upgrade something, whether frame, or
acrobat, or Windows, I get problems with this font being missing. I should
have thought of that right off. Looking at my FM8 maker.ini file, it's still
not clear to me how my FM8 was locating this font. I think I need to located
it on my old computer and install it in the normal location of my new
machine.

 

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FM10 converting to italics

[Timothy DeWees]

Rebecca,



It does look now like it's a missing font issue. Our client still uses Times
which is an ancient font. Every time I upgrade something, whether frame, or
acrobat, or Windows, I get problems with this font being missing. I should
have thought of that right off. Looking at my FM8 maker.ini file, it's still
not clear to me how my FM8 was locating this font. I think I need to located
it on my old computer and install it in the normal location of my new
machine.



Thanks for your help.



Tim



From: rebecca officer [mailto:rebecca.offi...@alliedtelesis.co.nz] 
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 4:49 PM
To: Timothy DeWees
Subject: Re: FM10 converting to italics



How weird.



Did you have any font remapping in your frame 8 maker.ini file?



And have you tried washing a file through mif to see if the problem
disappears?



Good luck with this one!

Rebecca

>>> "Timothy DeWees"  2/04/12 03:33 >>>

Sorry if this has been discussed before, but I just upgraded to FM10. For
some reason when I convert to pdf, paragraph text always converts in
italics. I can take a document I created a while ago in FM8, open it with
FM8 and convert to pdf with no problem. But if I open the exact same
document in FM10 and convert to pdf, all of the body text is in italics.
???



Tim DeWees


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FM10 converting to italics

[Timothy DeWees]

Thanks Mike, I was able to correct the problem by adding a font file
"timr45w.ttf" to my fonts folder. I did notice the line you mentioned in the
maker.ini file, but wasn't sure why it worked with FM8 and not FM10. In any
case, I think having the right font file is better in the long run than
having it substitute. It was confusing because it turned out I had the Times
italic and bold fonts, but FM8 was substituting for the plain Times font. I
had never noticed it before. Anyway, problem solved, thanks.



From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Mike Wickham
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 10:24 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: FM10 converting to italics



Times is also one of the basic PostScript fonts built into PostScript
printers. If you can't find it installed, you may be able to locate it on
the installation disk of a PostScript printer.

You can also remap Times to Times New Roman in the [UnknownToKnowFontMap]
section of maker.ini. The following entry is there by default, but may have
gotten turned off:

Times, *, *, *=Times New Roman, *, *, *

Mike Wickham

On 4/2/2012 5:04 AM, Timothy DeWees wrote: 

Rebecca,



It does look now like it's a missing font issue. Our client still uses Times
which is an ancient font. Every time I upgrade something, whether frame, or
acrobat, or Windows, I get problems with this font being missing. I should
have thought of that right off. Looking at my FM8 maker.ini file, it's still
not clear to me how my FM8 was locating this font. I think I need to located
it on my old computer and install it in the normal location of my new
machine.



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FM10 converting to italics

[Timothy DeWees]

Sorry if this has been discussed before, but I just upgraded to FM10. For
some reason when I convert to pdf, paragraph text always converts in
italics. I can take a document I created a while ago in FM8, open it with
FM8 and convert to pdf with no problem. But if I open the exact same
document in FM10 and convert to pdf, all of the body text is in italics.
???

 

Tim DeWees

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[Timothy DeWees]

Sorry if this has been discussed before, but I just upgraded to FM10. For
some reason when I convert to pdf, paragraph text always converts in
italics. I can take a document I created a while ago in FM8, open it with
FM8 and convert to pdf with no problem. But if I open the exact same
document in FM10 and convert to pdf, all of the body text is in italics.
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RE: Keep paragraph with table

[Timothy DeWees]

Thanks Stuart, I'm sure I will get the spacing just right. I'm just so busy 
converting this massive document so some other writers can begin revising the 
content, that I haven't taken much time for fine tuning the pgf's. I like to do 
the tweaking later when nobody is waiting on me. That's one of the things I 
love about frame. I'm only using a handful of pgf's in this document and will 
be able to easily make formatting changes at any time during the conversion and 
revision process.

Tim

-Original Message-
From: Stuart Rogers [mailto:srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 1:16 PM
To: Timothy DeWees
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Keep paragraph with table

Tim,

You shouldn't get any extra white space.  Double check the the two Space 
settings, and make sure their absolute values are equal to each other and as 
large as or larger than the font size of the anchor pgf. For example, if your 
anchor pgf font is 11pt, make the Space Below -12pt and the table's Space Above 
-12pt.  The table should then begin right below the pgf preceding the anchor 
pgf.  (Also check Space Below in the preceding pgf, and Space Above in the 
anchor pgf -- Frame will use the larger of the two if they are non-zero.)

HTH,

s.


On 26/03/2012 5:50 AM, Timothy DeWees wrote:
 Stuart,

 Thanks very much for your suggestion. It works very well. I got a 
 little bit of extra white space, but the breaks look much, much 
 cleaner. And if I tweak the spacing some, I might even be able to get 
 rid of  the extra white space. Thanks again.

 Tim

 -Original Message- From: Stuart Rogers 
 [mailto:srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com] Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012
 10:32 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com; tdew...@charter.net
 Subject: Re: Keep paragraph with table

 On 23/03/2012 4:05 AM, Timothy DeWees wrote:
 I’ve got a very large document where we are using a table with no 
 title to handle two-column text. Often, the separated “title” will be 
 a heading 3 or 4, etc. How can I get the heading 3 paragraph to stay 
 with the table below it rather than breaking across a page? I 
 selected “keep with next paragraph”, but I’m not sure frame sees that 
 table as a paragraph. Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

 Tim

 Best practice seems to be to create a pgf tag dedicated to holding the 
 table anchor and nothing else.  If you set its Space Below to a 
 negative number equal to the font size, and set the Table tag's Space 
 Above to the same negative number, the pgf will take no additional 
 space itself. Then Keep With Next Pgf will work to stick your heading 
 to the table.

 HTH,

 -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited
 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3 Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5 +1
 (416) 491-7340 x 325

 http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com



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Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
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RE: Keep paragraph with table

[Timothy DeWees]

Stuart,

Thanks very much for your suggestion. It works very well. I got a little bit of 
extra white space, but the breaks look much, much cleaner. And if I tweak the 
spacing some, I might even be able to get rid of  the extra white space. Thanks 
again.

Tim

-Original Message-
From: Stuart Rogers [mailto:srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 10:32 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com; tdew...@charter.net
Subject: Re: Keep paragraph with table

On 23/03/2012 4:05 AM, Timothy DeWees wrote:
 I’ve got a very large document where we are using a table with no 
 title to handle two-column text. Often, the separated “title” will be 
 a heading 3 or 4, etc. How can I get the heading 3 paragraph to stay 
 with the table below it rather than breaking across a page? I selected 
 “keep with next paragraph”, but I’m not sure frame sees that table as 
 a paragraph. Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

 Tim

Best practice seems to be to create a pgf tag dedicated to holding the table 
anchor and nothing else.  If you set its Space Below to a negative number equal 
to the font size, and set the Table tag's Space Above to the same negative 
number, the pgf will take no additional space itself. 
  Then Keep With Next Pgf will work to stick your heading to the table.

HTH,

--
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com

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Keep paragraph with table

[Timothy DeWees]

Stuart,

Thanks very much for your suggestion. It works very well. I got a little bit of 
extra white space, but the breaks look much, much cleaner. And if I tweak the 
spacing some, I might even be able to get rid of  the extra white space. Thanks 
again.

Tim

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From: Stuart Rogers [mailto:srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 10:32 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com; tdewees at charter.net
Subject: Re: Keep paragraph with table

On 23/03/2012 4:05 AM, Timothy DeWees wrote:
> I?ve got a very large document where we are using a table with no 
> title to handle two-column text. Often, the separated ?title? will be 
> a heading 3 or 4, etc. How can I get the heading 3 paragraph to stay 
> with the table below it rather than breaking across a page? I selected 
> ?keep with next paragraph?, but I?m not sure frame sees that table as 
> a paragraph. Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
>
> Tim

Best practice seems to be to create a pgf tag dedicated to holding the table 
anchor and nothing else.  If you set its Space Below to a negative number equal 
to the font size, and set the Table tag's Space Above to the same negative 
number, the pgf will take no additional space itself. 
  Then Keep With Next Pgf will work to stick your heading to the table.

HTH,

--
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com

Keep paragraph with table

[Timothy DeWees]

Thanks Stuart, I'm sure I will get the spacing just right. I'm just so busy 
converting this massive document so some other writers can begin revising the 
content, that I haven't taken much time for fine tuning the pgf's. I like to do 
the tweaking later when nobody is waiting on me. That's one of the things I 
love about frame. I'm only using a handful of pgf's in this document and will 
be able to easily make formatting changes at any time during the conversion and 
revision process.

Tim

-Original Message-
From: Stuart Rogers [mailto:srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 1:16 PM
To: Timothy DeWees
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Keep paragraph with table

Tim,

You shouldn't get any extra white space.  Double check the the two Space 
settings, and make sure their absolute values are equal to each other and as 
large as or larger than the font size of the anchor pgf. For example, if your 
anchor pgf font is 11pt, make the Space Below -12pt and the table's Space Above 
-12pt.  The table should then begin right below the pgf preceding the anchor 
pgf.  (Also check Space Below in the preceding pgf, and Space Above in the 
anchor pgf -- Frame will use the larger of the two if they are non-zero.)

HTH,

s.


On 26/03/2012 5:50 AM, Timothy DeWees wrote:
> Stuart,
>
> Thanks very much for your suggestion. It works very well. I got a 
> little bit of extra white space, but the breaks look much, much 
> cleaner. And if I tweak the spacing some, I might even be able to get 
> rid of  the extra white space. Thanks again.
>
> Tim
>
> -Original Message- From: Stuart Rogers 
> [mailto:srogers at phoenix-geophysics.com] Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012
> 10:32 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com; tdewees at charter.net
> Subject: Re: Keep paragraph with table
>
> On 23/03/2012 4:05 AM, Timothy DeWees wrote:
>> I?ve got a very large document where we are using a table with no 
>> title to handle two-column text. Often, the separated ?title? will be 
>> a heading 3 or 4, etc. How can I get the heading 3 paragraph to stay 
>> with the table below it rather than breaking across a page? I 
>> selected ?keep with next paragraph?, but I?m not sure frame sees that 
>> table as a paragraph. Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
>>
>> Tim
>
> Best practice seems to be to create a pgf tag dedicated to holding the 
> table anchor and nothing else.  If you set its Space Below to a 
> negative number equal to the font size, and set the Table tag's Space 
> Above to the same negative number, the pgf will take no additional 
> space itself. Then Keep With Next Pgf will work to stick your heading 
> to the table.
>
> HTH,
>
> -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited
> 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3 Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5 +1
> (416) 491-7340 x 325
>
> http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com
>


--
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com

Keep paragraph with table

[Timothy DeWees]

I've got a very large document where we are using a table with no title to
handle two-column text. Often, the separated title will be a heading 3 or
4, etc.  How can I get the heading 3 paragraph to stay with the table below
it rather than breaking across a page? I selected keep with next
paragraph, but I'm not sure frame sees that table as a paragraph. Thanks in
advance for any suggestions.

 

Tim

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I've got a very large document where we are using a table with no title to
handle two-column text. Often, the separated "title" will be a heading 3 or
4, etc.  How can I get the heading 3 paragraph to stay with the table below
it rather than breaking across a page? I selected "keep with next
paragraph", but I'm not sure frame sees that table as a paragraph. Thanks in
advance for any suggestions.



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[Timothy DeWees]

Hi folks,

 

I was the guy with the problem pulling in text from a source table and
having it straddle rows in my new table. I thank you all as I got lots of
great suggestions and I promised to report back. In the end as I'm looking
at converting a 1700 page document, I decided it was time to get
FrameScript. As I know it has a pretty steep learning curve, I had Rick
Quatro set up my first script for me. I'm VERY happy with the decision I
made. I was looking at a hellish conversion and now I can convert the stuff
quickly and easily. 

 

I don't intend this to sound like an advertisement. I've been lurking (with
the occasional post) on this list for years. I've often thought about
Framescript, but learning frame was hard enough and I was a little
intimidated by it. But with this latest massive conversion, I felt the time
was right and it was. I'm currently reading Rick's book and hope I can learn
to write my own scripts soon. 

 

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[Timothy DeWees]

Hi folks,



I was the guy with the problem pulling in text from a source table and
having it straddle rows in my new table. I thank you all as I got lots of
great suggestions and I promised to report back. In the end as I'm looking
at converting a 1700 page document, I decided it was time to get
FrameScript. As I know it has a pretty steep learning curve, I had Rick
Quatro set up my first script for me. I'm VERY happy with the decision I
made. I was looking at a hellish conversion and now I can convert the stuff
quickly and easily. 



I don't intend this to sound like an advertisement. I've been lurking (with
the occasional post) on this list for years. I've often thought about
Framescript, but learning frame was hard enough and I was a little
intimidated by it. But with this latest massive conversion, I felt the time
was right and it was. I'm currently reading Rick's book and hope I can learn
to write my own scripts soon. 



Tim DeWees

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[Timothy DeWees]

Hi All,

 

Thanks for the many great suggestions. I'm going to try out some things and
see what works best. I will post back later what approach I found worked out
best for me.

 

Tim

 

From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campb...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 7:09 AM
To: Timothy DeWees
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Copy / paste table cells

 

If I were doing the project, I'd take a couple steps backwards, to the HTML
file, which I assume is still online.

 

Although I haven't done it, if you Google the string: html table to excel
you'll find pages full of tools, including an Excel macro which apparently
will bring it in cleanly.

 

Otherwise (the method I've used in the past), you can view the source code
in another window of your browser. Copy and paste that into a text editor
(Notepad, NoteTab Pro, whatever) and do a search and replace for the cell
separator coding and row ends/beginnings to convert them either to tabs or
commas, and carriage returns, respectively.

 

Once you have a comma or tab delimited table, you should be able to work on
it in Excel, which I suspect will be quicker and easier for editing.

Then bring the cleaned up file into Frame by exporting as a text format FM
can deal with -- the comma or tab delimited file.

 

Art 

 

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On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Timothy DeWees tdew...@charter.net wrote:

Hi all,

 

I'm working on a project where a large document was originally in a database
(I don't know what software) that was updated and posted online as some sort
of html document. The database was then converted to a Word file which I
subsequently converted to frame. The whole document rendered as a huge,
unmanageable table. So I created a new frame template so we will have a
workable document in the future. The main problem I'm having is copying text
in table cells from the old document into the new. For example, I'm trying
to copy two table columns of text into a new two column table.  But when I
do, the text from the 1st column will cause my two columns to merge into a
single column and the text from the second column does not appear anywhere.
If I copy text individual cell by cell, it works fine. But this is going to
be a 1500 page document and that would take forever. 

 

Any suggestions on an approach I might take so that I can copy / paste
multiple rows at one time? I'm sorry I haven't provided much info on the
original table, but I don't understand it myself. The original table was
created in the conversion process and I would have no idea how to duplicate
it. Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

 

Tim DeWees


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Hi All,



Thanks for the many great suggestions. I'm going to try out some things and
see what works best. I will post back later what approach I found worked out
best for me.



Tim



From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campb...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 7:09 AM
To: Timothy DeWees
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Copy / paste table cells



If I were doing the project, I'd take a couple steps backwards, to the HTML
file, which I assume is still online.



Although I haven't done it, if you Google the string: "html table to excel"
you'll find pages full of tools, including an Excel macro which apparently
will bring it in cleanly.



Otherwise (the method I've used in the past), you can view the source code
in another window of your browser. Copy and paste that into a text editor
(Notepad, NoteTab Pro, whatever) and do a search and replace for the cell
separator coding and row ends/beginnings to convert them either to tabs or
commas, and carriage returns, respectively.



Once you have a comma or tab delimited table, you should be able to work on
it in Excel, which I suspect will be quicker and easier for editing.

Then bring the cleaned up file into Frame by exporting as a text format FM
can deal with -- the comma or tab delimited file.



Art 



Art Campbell
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a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
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On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Timothy DeWees  wrote:

Hi all,



I'm working on a project where a large document was originally in a database
(I don't know what software) that was updated and posted online as some sort
of html document. The database was then converted to a Word file which I
subsequently converted to frame. The whole document rendered as a huge,
unmanageable table. So I created a new frame template so we will have a
workable document in the future. The main problem I'm having is copying text
in table cells from the old document into the new. For example, I'm trying
to copy two table columns of text into a new two column table.  But when I
do, the text from the 1st column will cause my two columns to merge into a
single column and the text from the second column does not appear anywhere.
If I copy text individual cell by cell, it works fine. But this is going to
be a 1500 page document and that would take forever. 



Any suggestions on an approach I might take so that I can copy / paste
multiple rows at one time? I'm sorry I haven't provided much info on the
original table, but I don't understand it myself. The original table was
created in the conversion process and I would have no idea how to duplicate
it. Thanks in advance for any suggestions.



Tim DeWees


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[Timothy DeWees]

Hi all,

 

I'm working on a project where a large document was originally in a database
(I don't know what software) that was updated and posted online as some sort
of html document. The database was then converted to a Word file which I
subsequently converted to frame. The whole document rendered as a huge,
unmanageable table. So I created a new frame template so we will have a
workable document in the future. The main problem I'm having is copying text
in table cells from the old document into the new. For example, I'm trying
to copy two table columns of text into a new two column table.  But when I
do, the text from the 1st column will cause my two columns to merge into a
single column and the text from the second column does not appear anywhere.
If I copy text individual cell by cell, it works fine. But this is going to
be a 1500 page document and that would take forever. 

 

Any suggestions on an approach I might take so that I can copy / paste
multiple rows at one time? I'm sorry I haven't provided much info on the
original table, but I don't understand it myself. The original table was
created in the conversion process and I would have no idea how to duplicate
it. Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

 

Tim DeWees

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[Timothy DeWees]

Hi all,



I'm working on a project where a large document was originally in a database
(I don't know what software) that was updated and posted online as some sort
of html document. The database was then converted to a Word file which I
subsequently converted to frame. The whole document rendered as a huge,
unmanageable table. So I created a new frame template so we will have a
workable document in the future. The main problem I'm having is copying text
in table cells from the old document into the new. For example, I'm trying
to copy two table columns of text into a new two column table.  But when I
do, the text from the 1st column will cause my two columns to merge into a
single column and the text from the second column does not appear anywhere.
If I copy text individual cell by cell, it works fine. But this is going to
be a 1500 page document and that would take forever. 



Any suggestions on an approach I might take so that I can copy / paste
multiple rows at one time? I'm sorry I haven't provided much info on the
original table, but I don't understand it myself. The original table was
created in the conversion process and I would have no idea how to duplicate
it. Thanks in advance for any suggestions.



Tim DeWees

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[Timothy DeWees]

Thanks Roger! It will be tomorrow before I get back in those documents, but 
you’ve armed me with a lot of “weapons” to try. I feel comfortable now that I 
can get the number not to break, but still maintain adequate cell margin.

 

Tim

 

From: Roger Shuttleworth [mailto:rshuttlewo...@avbasesystems.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 7:44 AM
To: Timothy DeWees
Subject: Re: Stop number break in table

 

Hello Tim

A couple of things come to mind:

1.  Check your para format settings, on the Table Cell tab in the paragraph 
designer. There may be padding added there that you can eliminate.
2.  Check the table format settings for padding inside the cells. These are 
*added* to any padding referred to in #1.
3.  Check other para format settings, e.g. right tabs, indents, etc.
4.  Since you say this doc is converted from Word, check for hidden 
characters at the end of lines. Word usually add a narrow hidden character 
immediately before the paragraph mark (pilcrow). To test for this, check that 
Vew  Text Symbols is on, then use your right-arrow key to move a step at a 
time to the end of the line. The easiest way to get rid of these hidden 
characters is to save as MIF and then reopen and save as FM. It's a good idea 
to do that anyway.

Hope this helps!

Roger

Roger Shuttleworth
Technical Documentation
AV-BASE Systems Inc.
1000 Air Ontario Drive, Suite 200
London, Ontario
N5V 3S4
Tel. 519 691-0919 ext. 330

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From: Timothy DeWees [mailto:tdew...@charter.net]
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 05:37:30 -0500
Subject: Stop number break in table

I am in the process of converting a Word Document to FrameMaker. I’ve got 
everything working correctly except for one detail. The document has a number 
of tables with a narrow column on the right margin for revision numbers. For 
numbers 1-9, it looks fine. But when I get to a two digit number (the document 
is currently on revision 10), the “10” insists on breaking across two lines. 
I’ve tried changing fonts and reducing cell margins to where it looks like 
there is plenty of space in the column to display the “10” on one line. But it 
still insists on breaking it across two lines. Thanks in advance for any advice 
you can give me!

 

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[Timothy DeWees]

More excellent suggestions, thanks!

 

From: Sarah O'Keefe [mailto:oke...@scriptorium.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 7:47 AM
To: Timothy DeWees
Subject: Re: Stop number break in table

 

Create a unique paragraph and change the Table settings for that paragraph
in the paragraph designer (last tab on the right)...

 

Sarah

 

On Dec 1, 2011, at 4:37 AM, Timothy DeWees wrote:





 

Thanks, that does work. But one problem is that reduces the cell insets for
all cells in the table and causes text in other cells to run too close
together. That was an issue in the original Word document that I was tasked
to fix in the frame document. The whole document now looks great in frame, I
just can't get this one number to render correctly in the right column.

 

Tim

 

From: Matt Sullivan [mailto:sullivanma...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 7:00 PM
To: Timothy DeWees
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Stop number break in table

 

Check the cell insets in the Table Designer. Reduce them and you should be
ok

 

-Matt

@mattrsullivan

On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 2:37 AM, Timothy DeWees tdew...@charter.net wrote:

I am in the process of converting a Word Document to FrameMaker. I've got
everything working correctly except for one detail. The document has a
number of tables with a narrow column on the right margin for revision
numbers. For numbers 1-9, it looks fine. But when I get to a two digit
number (the document is currently on revision 10), the 10 insists on
breaking across two lines. I've tried changing fonts and reducing cell
margins to where it looks like there is plenty of space in the column to
display the 10 on one line. But it still insists on breaking it across two
lines. Thanks in advance for any advice you can give me!

 

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Works like a champ guys, thanks.  At first it didn't appear to work, but I
forgot that the default setting for table margin in the paragraph designer
is Cell margin *plus* what you put in the box. I had to change that to
custom. Since I normally establish cell margins for a table in the table
designer rather than the paragraph designer, I wasn't as familiar with that
option. But that's a great trick because I work with tables a lot and that
will come in handy in the future.

 

From: Matt Sullivan [mailto:sullivanma...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 10:57 AM
To: Rick Quatro
Cc: Timothy DeWees; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Stop number break in table

 

Yep, Stuart and Rick are correct...just create a Paragraph Formant for those
numbers that sets the Table Cell properties appropriately and independently
of the Table Format

 

-Matt

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On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 8:20 AM, Rick Quatro r...@rickquatro.com wrote:

You can reduce the individual cell margins via the Table Cell tab of the
Paragraph Designer.

 

Rick Quatro

Carmen Publishing Inc.

585-659-8267

r...@frameexpert.com

http://www.frameexpert.com

 

 

 

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Timothy DeWees
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 4:37 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: FW: Stop number break in table

 

 

Thanks, that does work. But one problem is that reduces the cell insets for
all cells in the table and causes text in other cells to run too close
together. That was an issue in the original Word document that I was tasked
to fix in the frame document. The whole document now looks great in frame, I
just can't get this one number to render correctly in the right column. 

 

Tim

 

From: Matt Sullivan [mailto:sullivanma...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 7:00 PM
To: Timothy DeWees
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Stop number break in table

 

Check the cell insets in the Table Designer. Reduce them and you should be
ok

 

-Matt

@mattrsullivan

On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 2:37 AM, Timothy DeWees tdew...@charter.net wrote:

I am in the process of converting a Word Document to FrameMaker. I've got
everything working correctly except for one detail. The document has a
number of tables with a narrow column on the right margin for revision
numbers. For numbers 1-9, it looks fine. But when I get to a two digit
number (the document is currently on revision 10), the 10 insists on
breaking across two lines. I've tried changing fonts and reducing cell
margins to where it looks like there is plenty of space in the column to
display the 10 on one line. But it still insists on breaking it across two
lines. Thanks in advance for any advice you can give me!

 

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[Timothy DeWees]

 

Thanks, that does work. But one problem is that reduces the cell insets for
all cells in the table and causes text in other cells to run too close
together. That was an issue in the original Word document that I was tasked
to fix in the frame document. The whole document now looks great in frame, I
just can't get this one number to render correctly in the right column. 

 

Tim

 

From: Matt Sullivan [mailto:sullivanma...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 7:00 PM
To: Timothy DeWees
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Stop number break in table

 

Check the cell insets in the Table Designer. Reduce them and you should be
ok

 

-Matt

@mattrsullivan

On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 2:37 AM, Timothy DeWees tdew...@charter.net wrote:

I am in the process of converting a Word Document to FrameMaker. I've got
everything working correctly except for one detail. The document has a
number of tables with a narrow column on the right margin for revision
numbers. For numbers 1-9, it looks fine. But when I get to a two digit
number (the document is currently on revision 10), the 10 insists on
breaking across two lines. I've tried changing fonts and reducing cell
margins to where it looks like there is plenty of space in the column to
display the 10 on one line. But it still insists on breaking it across two
lines. Thanks in advance for any advice you can give me!

 

Tim DeWees


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FW: Stop number break in table

[Timothy DeWees]

Thanks, that does work. But one problem is that reduces the cell insets for
all cells in the table and causes text in other cells to run too close
together. That was an issue in the original Word document that I was tasked
to fix in the frame document. The whole document now looks great in frame, I
just can't get this one number to render correctly in the right column. 



Tim



From: Matt Sullivan [mailto:sullivanma...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 7:00 PM
To: Timothy DeWees
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Stop number break in table



Check the cell insets in the Table Designer. Reduce them and you should be
ok



-Matt

@mattrsullivan

On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 2:37 AM, Timothy DeWees  wrote:

I am in the process of converting a Word Document to FrameMaker. I've got
everything working correctly except for one detail. The document has a
number of tables with a narrow column on the right margin for revision
numbers. For numbers 1-9, it looks fine. But when I get to a two digit
number (the document is currently on revision 10), the "10" insists on
breaking across two lines. I've tried changing fonts and reducing cell
margins to where it looks like there is plenty of space in the column to
display the "10" on one line. But it still insists on breaking it across two
lines. Thanks in advance for any advice you can give me!



Tim DeWees


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Stop number break in table

[Timothy DeWees]

Thanks Roger! It will be tomorrow before I get back in those documents, but 
you?ve armed me with a lot of ?weapons? to try. I feel comfortable now that I 
can get the number not to break, but still maintain adequate cell margin.



Tim



From: Roger Shuttleworth [mailto:rshuttlewo...@avbasesystems.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 7:44 AM
To: Timothy DeWees
Subject: Re: Stop number break in table



Hello Tim

A couple of things come to mind:

1.  Check your para format settings, on the Table Cell tab in the paragraph 
designer. There may be padding added there that you can eliminate.
2.  Check the table format settings for padding inside the cells. These are 
*added* to any padding referred to in #1.
3.  Check other para format settings, e.g. right tabs, indents, etc.
4.  Since you say this doc is converted from Word, check for hidden 
characters at the end of lines. Word usually add a narrow hidden character 
immediately before the paragraph mark (pilcrow). To test for this, check that 
Vew > Text Symbols is on, then use your right-arrow key to move a step at a 
time to the end of the line. The easiest way to get rid of these hidden 
characters is to save as MIF and then reopen and save as FM. It's a good idea 
to do that anyway.

Hope this helps!

Roger

Roger Shuttleworth
Technical Documentation
AV-BASE Systems Inc.
1000 Air Ontario Drive, Suite 200
London, Ontario
N5V 3S4
Tel. 519 691-0919 ext. 330

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From: Timothy DeWees [mailto:tdew...@charter.net]
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 05:37:30 -0500
Subject: Stop number break in table

I am in the process of converting a Word Document to FrameMaker. I?ve got 
everything working correctly except for one detail. The document has a number 
of tables with a narrow column on the right margin for revision numbers. For 
numbers 1-9, it looks fine. But when I get to a two digit number (the document 
is currently on revision 10), the ?10? insists on breaking across two lines. 
I?ve tried changing fonts and reducing cell margins to where it looks like 
there is plenty of space in the column to display the ?10? on one line. But it 
still insists on breaking it across two lines. Thanks in advance for any advice 
you can give me!



Tim DeWees

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Stop number break in table

[Timothy DeWees]

More excellent suggestions, thanks!



From: Sarah O'Keefe [mailto:oke...@scriptorium.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 7:47 AM
To: Timothy DeWees
Subject: Re: Stop number break in table



Create a unique paragraph and change the Table settings for that paragraph
in the paragraph designer (last tab on the right)...



Sarah



On Dec 1, 2011, at 4:37 AM, Timothy DeWees wrote:







Thanks, that does work. But one problem is that reduces the cell insets for
all cells in the table and causes text in other cells to run too close
together. That was an issue in the original Word document that I was tasked
to fix in the frame document. The whole document now looks great in frame, I
just can't get this one number to render correctly in the right column.



Tim



From: Matt Sullivan [mailto:sullivanma...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 7:00 PM
To: Timothy DeWees
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Stop number break in table



Check the cell insets in the Table Designer. Reduce them and you should be
ok



-Matt

@mattrsullivan

On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 2:37 AM, Timothy DeWees  wrote:

I am in the process of converting a Word Document to FrameMaker. I've got
everything working correctly except for one detail. The document has a
number of tables with a narrow column on the right margin for revision
numbers. For numbers 1-9, it looks fine. But when I get to a two digit
number (the document is currently on revision 10), the "10" insists on
breaking across two lines. I've tried changing fonts and reducing cell
margins to where it looks like there is plenty of space in the column to
display the "10" on one line. But it still insists on breaking it across two
lines. Thanks in advance for any advice you can give me!



Tim DeWees


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[Timothy DeWees]

Works like a champ guys, thanks.  At first it didn't appear to work, but I
forgot that the default setting for table margin in the paragraph designer
is "Cell margin *plus*" what you put in the box. I had to change that to
custom. Since I normally establish cell margins for a table in the table
designer rather than the paragraph designer, I wasn't as familiar with that
option. But that's a great trick because I work with tables a lot and that
will come in handy in the future.



From: Matt Sullivan [mailto:sullivanma...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 10:57 AM
To: Rick Quatro
Cc: Timothy DeWees; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Stop number break in table



Yep, Stuart and Rick are correct...just create a Paragraph Formant for those
numbers that sets the Table Cell properties appropriately and independently
of the Table Format



-Matt

@mattrsullivan

On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 8:20 AM, Rick Quatro  wrote:

You can reduce the individual cell margins via the Table Cell tab of the
Paragraph Designer.



Rick Quatro

Carmen Publishing Inc.

585-659-8267

rick at frameexpert.com

http://www.frameexpert.com







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[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Timothy DeWees
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 4:37 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: FW: Stop number break in table





Thanks, that does work. But one problem is that reduces the cell insets for
all cells in the table and causes text in other cells to run too close
together. That was an issue in the original Word document that I was tasked
to fix in the frame document. The whole document now looks great in frame, I
just can't get this one number to render correctly in the right column. 



Tim



From: Matt Sullivan [mailto:sullivanma...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 7:00 PM
To: Timothy DeWees
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Stop number break in table



Check the cell insets in the Table Designer. Reduce them and you should be
ok



-Matt

@mattrsullivan

On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 2:37 AM, Timothy DeWees  wrote:

I am in the process of converting a Word Document to FrameMaker. I've got
everything working correctly except for one detail. The document has a
number of tables with a narrow column on the right margin for revision
numbers. For numbers 1-9, it looks fine. But when I get to a two digit
number (the document is currently on revision 10), the "10" insists on
breaking across two lines. I've tried changing fonts and reducing cell
margins to where it looks like there is plenty of space in the column to
display the "10" on one line. But it still insists on breaking it across two
lines. Thanks in advance for any advice you can give me!



Tim DeWees


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Post Script error on conversion to pdf - related to table

[Timothy DeWees]

I am working in a document that was edited by someone else, so I don't know
all of the details of how the document was edited. But after I finished my
editing, I went to convert to pdf and one of the files is causing a post
script error. I was able to narrow it down to a specific file and a specific
table within that file. I deleted the table and re-built it to ensure it was
correct, but still get the PS error. If I remove the table, the error goes
away. The error looks like this:

 

%%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: num ]%%

Stack:

2

/Heading

/T

-mark-

 

Note that if I build the same table somewhere else in the same file, it
works fine. It seems to be some kind of conflict with building a table
within a heading 2 subsection, but I'm not sure what's going on. Thanks for
any help you can provide.

 

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RE: Post Script error on conversion to pdf - related to table

[Timothy DeWees]

David,

 

Thanks, that seems to have worked! It looks like there was something going
on in the paragraph above the table. The guy who did the previous editing is
only somewhat familiar with frame. It appears he had something in that
paragraph that was causing the PS error. Thanks again for your help.

 

Tim

 

From: David A Starr [mailto:dast...@ra.rockwell.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 7:50 AM
To: Timothy DeWees
Subject: Re: Post Script error on conversion to pdf - related to table

 


Tim, 

Try deleting paragraphs immediately surrounding the table, especially the
paragraph where the table is attached. It's worked for me a couple of times
in the past. 

Your statement that building a replacement table, and inserting it elsewhere
works indicates the problem may reside elesewhere. 

Dave Starr
Sr. Technical Information Developer |  Architecture and Software
Phone: 952.942.3617 
Email: dast...@ra.rockwell.com
Rockwell Automation | 10120 West 76th St, Suite B | Eden Prairie, MN 55344






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10/26/2011 07:02 AM 


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I am working in a document that was edited by someone else, so I don't know
all of the details of how the document was edited. But after I finished my
editing, I went to convert to pdf and one of the files is causing a post
script error. I was able to narrow it down to a specific file and a specific
table within that file. I deleted the table and re-built it to ensure it was
correct, but still get the PS error. If I remove the table, the error goes
away. The error looks like this: 
  
%%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: num ]%% 
Stack: 
2 
/Heading 
/T 
-mark- 
  
Note that if I build the same table somewhere else in the same file, it
works fine. It seems to be some kind of conflict with building a table
within a heading 2 subsection, but I'm not sure what's going on. Thanks for
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[Timothy DeWees]

David,



Thanks, that seems to have worked! It looks like there was something going
on in the paragraph above the table. The guy who did the previous editing is
only somewhat familiar with frame. It appears he had something in that
paragraph that was causing the PS error. Thanks again for your help.



Tim



From: David A Starr [mailto:dast...@ra.rockwell.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 7:50 AM
To: Timothy DeWees
Subject: Re: Post Script error on conversion to pdf - related to table




Tim, 

Try deleting paragraphs immediately surrounding the table, especially the
paragraph where the table is attached. It's worked for me a couple of times
in the past. 

Your statement that building a replacement table, and inserting it elsewhere
works indicates the problem may reside elesewhere. 

Dave Starr
Sr. Technical Information Developer |  Architecture and Software
Phone: 952.942.3617 
Email: dastarr at ra.rockwell.com
Rockwell Automation | 10120 West 76th St, Suite B | Eden Prairie, MN 55344






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I am working in a document that was edited by someone else, so I don't know
all of the details of how the document was edited. But after I finished my
editing, I went to convert to pdf and one of the files is causing a post
script error. I was able to narrow it down to a specific file and a specific
table within that file. I deleted the table and re-built it to ensure it was
correct, but still get the PS error. If I remove the table, the error goes
away. The error looks like this: 

%%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: num ]%% 
Stack: 
2 
/Heading 
/T 
-mark- 

Note that if I build the same table somewhere else in the same file, it
works fine. It seems to be some kind of conflict with building a table
within a heading 2 subsection, but I'm not sure what's going on. Thanks for
any help you can provide. 

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[Timothy DeWees]

I am working in a document that was edited by someone else, so I don't know
all of the details of how the document was edited. But after I finished my
editing, I went to convert to pdf and one of the files is causing a post
script error. I was able to narrow it down to a specific file and a specific
table within that file. I deleted the table and re-built it to ensure it was
correct, but still get the PS error. If I remove the table, the error goes
away. The error looks like this:



%%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: num ]%%

Stack:

2

/Heading

/T

-mark-



Note that if I build the same table somewhere else in the same file, it
works fine. It seems to be some kind of conflict with building a table
within a heading 2 subsection, but I'm not sure what's going on. Thanks for
any help you can provide.



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Cannot select and delete imported image file

[Timothy DeWees]

I am working with a document where a former employee attempted to import
some image file (jpg) into anchored frames that I had set up in the template
document. This person was a novice with framemaker. The images obviously
were not correctly imported into the anchored frames, because they will move
out of the anchored frame if text is added/deleted, etc.  I thought, no
problem, I will just delete the images and import them correctly into the
anchored frame. The problem is that I cannot select the images in order to
delete them.  They were obviously imported by reference, since if I remove
the image source files, frame will give me a dialogue saying that the files
are missing and a gray box appears. But I simply cannot find a way to select
the images in order to delete them and re-import them correctly. Any
suggestions?  The person who originally imported these is not available, so
I cannot ask him how he did the import. Thanks in advance for your help. 

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If the images don't move with the anchored frame, they were probably placed
directly on the page. If you can't select them, they're probably behind the
text frame. Try this: select the text frame, select Graphics  Send to Back,
and then click the image to select it. 

HTH!

Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111

Worked like a charm! Thanks for your help and everyone who responded. 

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[Timothy DeWees]

I am working with a document where a former employee attempted to import
some image file (jpg) into anchored frames that I had set up in the template
document. This person was a novice with framemaker. The images obviously
were not correctly imported into the anchored frames, because they will move
out of the anchored frame if text is added/deleted, etc.  I thought, no
problem, I will just delete the images and import them correctly into the
anchored frame. The problem is that I cannot select the images in order to
delete them.  They were obviously imported by reference, since if I remove
the image source files, frame will give me a dialogue saying that the files
are missing and a gray box appears. But I simply cannot find a way to select
the images in order to delete them and re-import them correctly. Any
suggestions?  The person who originally imported these is not available, so
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[Timothy DeWees]

>If the images don't move with the anchored frame, they were probably placed
directly on the page. If you can't select them, they're probably behind the
text frame. Try this: select the text frame, select Graphics > Send to Back,
>and then click the image to select it. 

>HTH!

>Richard G. Combs
>Senior Technical Writer
>Polycom, Inc.
>richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
>303-223-5111

Worked like a charm! Thanks for your help and everyone who responded. 

Tim DeWees

Unresolved text inset book errors

[Timothy DeWees]

I just replaced a bunch of text insets in a book with new text inset files.
I deleted the old text inset files from the folder which are no longer being
used. Everything seems to be working fine, but when I regenerate the book, I
get a stream of unresolved text inset errors listing the file names for
those insets I deleted. However, those are no longer in use. When I do a
book search for unresolved text insets, the search does not find any.  I can
even generate a pdf and everything looks fine.  So there doesn't seem to be
an actual problem, it is just annoying that every time I regen the book, I
get this long list of errors. Any ideas?  Thanks.

Tim

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[Timothy DeWees]

I just replaced a bunch of text insets in a book with new text inset files.
I deleted the old text inset files from the folder which are no longer being
used. Everything seems to be working fine, but when I regenerate the book, I
get a stream of unresolved text inset errors listing the file names for
those insets I deleted. However, those are no longer in use. When I do a
book search for unresolved text insets, the search does not find any.  I can
even generate a pdf and everything looks fine.  So there doesn't seem to be
an actual problem, it is just annoying that every time I regen the book, I
get this long list of "errors". Any ideas?  Thanks.

Tim

Opening book files without opening the book

[Timothy DeWees]

 
I am currently working with a couple of other people who are new to
framemaker. I've been using frame for a bit over two years on a near daily
basis. I use the practice of always opening a frame book before editing
individual files within that book. My concern is that by working in an
individual file without opening the book, that errors such as broken
cross-references, re-mapping of text insets, or other errors may occur. Is
my concern founded, or is it ok to edit individual book files without ever
opening the book?  If anyone has a link to a discussion of this topic, that
would be particularly helpful. 
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[Timothy DeWees]

I am currently working with a couple of other people who are new to
framemaker. I've been using frame for a bit over two years on a near daily
basis. I use the practice of always opening a frame book before editing
individual files within that book. My concern is that by working in an
individual file without opening the book, that errors such as broken
cross-references, re-mapping of text insets, or other errors may occur. Is
my concern founded, or is it ok to edit individual book files without ever
opening the book?  If anyone has a link to a discussion of this topic, that
would be particularly helpful.