RE: Proofread your EMails
Where are you? It's Wednesday here :-) Peter Original Message Wow! All this good fun, and it's not even Friday! (Sorta like "Christmas in July", it's "Friday on Tuesday"...?) Chuck ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Acrobat 8/8.1 Dropping Text in PDF
Art, Can you give me a link to that forum please. Peter Original Message information in the archives here and in the Adobe FM User Forum (where ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Recall: FM to RH Import Settings?
To late! It's already been sent to the world! Peter Original Message Handel, Randy would like to recall the message, "FM to RH Import Settings?". ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/peter%40galley.ie Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Keyboard shortcuts stop working
I occasionally get this with 7.1p116 Peter Original Message Hi all, a fellow Framer is using FrameMaker 7.2b144. Sometimes (and we don't know how it's triggered) the keyboard shortcuts (CTRL+X, CTRL+Z and others) stop working. When he quits and restarts FrameMaker, everything is fine again. Is this a known bug? Has anyone had the same problem before? In which version? Kind regards -- Yves Barbion Documentation Architect Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/peter%40galley.ie Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FrameMaker 8 Online Manuals
In my case they're at: C:\Program Files\Adobe\FrameMaker7.1\OnlineManuals Peter Original Message Hello Framers, I am sorry for the repeat question, as I think it has been asked before. I am looking for the FrameMaker 8 Online Manuals, particulary the Structured Application Developers Manual. Thanks in advance. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FrameMaker 8 Online Manuals
Oops! Sorry, that's 7.1 - can'y help with 8 Peter Original Message Hello Framers, I am sorry for the repeat question, as I think it has been asked before. I am looking for the FrameMaker 8 Online Manuals, particulary the Structured Application Developers Manual. Thanks in advance. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: [Framers] Converting a frame maker document to a word document
Could you save as PDF and then save that as Word? Alternately, you could sub-contract the job to me 😊 Peter -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of Tammy Van Boening Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2023 4:41 PM To: Framers Subject: [Framers] Converting a frame maker document to a word document Hello all, I have an absolutely massive frame maker document (700+ pages including a bibliography) that is laden with cross references and graphics. It’s a heavily detailed scientific guide that I’m also single sourcing to produce another guide from. I’ve gone round and round with my client on this, but they’ve decided that they want everything in Word now, despite all my articulate arguments about why Word is not the source tool you want to use for something like this. That said, that means I have to convert this beast to a word document. I know I’m probably up the proverbial creek without a paddle, but is there any even remotely possible way to do this short of copying and pasting everything in and manually reformatting ? I have tons across references. I have numbered figures that need to remain numbered sequentially. I have a bibliography that uses super scripts for cross references, etc. It’s just a nightmare and I don’t even want to think about starting this but I don’t have a choice. Any and all advice short of drinking heavily and running away is appreciated Thank you so much, Tam Sent from my iPhone. Blame Steve Jobs for any typos. ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
RE: PDF'd colored figures from FM to B/W?
What printer is defined when you create the PDF? I've seen this happen if you specified a mono printer. Peter Original Message HI Everyone, Does anyone have a clue why the following happens? I have an FM file with a colored PDF figure (imported by Ref). (Don't ask why I have the PDF figures and not tif or something more suitable, currrently, that's what the client has). The FM file looks fine. Then, after I PDF the FM file (with the PDF figure/s) in it, my PDF figures come out in black and white, but not colored. The rest of the PDF is fine, including the other fig's (tif or eps or other). I'm running FM 6 on Window 2000, acrobat 6 and/or 7 were used to create the PDF with the same job options on all apps. Any clues? Thanks, Orly. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FM 7.2 starts much slower than 7.1
There is a similar set for FM 7.1 too. Peter Original Message When I received my FM7.2 upgrade I knew it was supplied with a new set of fonts so I looked on the CD but couldn't find them anywhere. After inspecting my FM7.2 installation I found them all lurking in \Program Files\Adobe\FrameMaker7.2\fminit\fonts\Adobe. I then attempted to install the fonts from there using the Windows "Fonts" control panel. After some puzzlement I eventually realised they were "Private Fonts" which could only be used in FM 7.2. They are clearly loaded by FM during program startup and thus lead to the extended startup time. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: table anchors - best practices?
I always anchor tables and figures in their own paragraph with a style called Anchorline. Anchor line is set to 2pt text. Peter Original Message Richard Combs had a comment in the thread "Question about the hyperlink from the LOF to the figure": "NOTE: There's a good case to be made for anchoring tables in their own empty pgf, not at the end of the preceding text pgf, but I don't want to complicate this any further. :-)" This made me curious! I searched the archives, and I found 2 relevant threads, which provided more food for thought: "small paragraphs for adding tables" from Sept. 1, 2005 "RE: start a table at top of column?" from Sept 18, 2005 My take on this - and I am looking for support, comments, or modifications - is that you should have a unique table anchor paragraph tag for anchoring all tables. I believe this gives you best overall control. Two reasons so far: 1. A unique tag always gives good control over material. 2. Wise formatting of this tag gives consistent spacing. And because the formatting is built into a tag, you do not have to resort to any manual formatting, which you might need to do, if you just attach/anchor the table to the preceding block of text or whatever. Right now, our policy is no separate paragraph tags for tables. I am currently working on a monster manual with over 600 tables. There are many situations where you have table after table with no text inbetween. Based on this, I want to propose that we do have a unique tag for anchoring tables. Richard's comment came at a perfect time, so now I am asking what the rest of you think - or whether Richard wants to reveal his reasons? I'd like to hear what people have to say. Thanks! regards, Karen Mardahl PS Just FYI: Unstructured Frame 7.1p116 WinXP ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/peter%40galley.ie Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Problems with special characters
Greater or equal is alt-0179 (I believe the 0 is required). You probably need to wrap this in symbol font. Peter Original Message Dear all, I have a tough time finding shortcuts for special characters. On the Internet, I found an Ascii table which specifies ALT + 242 for "greater or equal than" ; unfortunately, when I type that, an "equal" character appears. I modified the regional options on my computer (set to French at first) through the configuration panel but it did not change anything. I have the same problem for the "different than" character. Do you simply recommend using the Equation palette ? Any help appreciated. Mathieu ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/peter%40galley.ie Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Shortcut keys stop working
I get this too, on FM 7.1p116. I only have to exit FM and restart to fix it. Peter Original Message Hi guys, Working in FM 7p492 on XP for about 2+ hours ... suddenly the shortcut keys (that is, Cltr + C to copy and so forth) stop working. Using the menu commands work fine. My fix is to restart the machine, but I wondered if anyone has experienced this and if they have a better fix. thanks, - Paul ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/peter%40galley.ie Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FrameMaker 8.0.3 Update Now Available via Adobe Updater
Some processes continue unwanted after you close the application. Try terminating the process in Windows Task Manager. Open it with Ctrl+Alt+Del, select the FrameMaker process in the Process pane, RightClick, choose End Process Tree. On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 6:16 PM, Linda G. Gallagher wrote: > I've tried at least three times when I know FM was closed, and it failed > every time. This getting old. HTH Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
What version of Frame to Get Started ?
Good Morning, I want to learn more about Framemaker, I have Ver. 5.5 and have fooled with that but need more experience... The prices of the latest version scare me, unless I had a contract or revenue input from writing... Recognizing that ver. 5.5 has basic functionality, what would be a next step? Is it worth searching EBay for ver. 6.0 or try to find ver. 7.1 at a reasonable price? On occasion, I find late versions of "Upgrade" packages available on EBay... Would some version of Upgrade 7.0 (or 7.1) bring my ver. 5.5 up to the next current level? The recent List discussion on Jahred's "Beyond the Basics" has stirred my curiosity, therefore I have found a copy of that text to read and review... Any comments appreciated A (latent) newbie Writer. -pc
What version of Frame to Get Started ?
Good Afternoon, Dov Isaacs said (in reference to Framemaker): "what is hawked on EBay is either pirated or stolen goods." Gosh, I am happy that you told me that. I have seen Framemaker listed on EBay that stipulates "installed on one machine, only" and other variants of this statement. So I did wonder about that (registration and installation) and said to myself: "Well how would you know?" So unless that it was stated that "it is new" or Shrink-wrapped, and that "it is returnable" I do not even consider reading more... I recently saw a Ver 7.2 (on EBay) with an attractive price, that I got excited about, until I read down into the Listing and it said "Absolutely No Returns"... So I said: "I don't think so !!!" Regards Peter --- On Thu, 5/15/08, Dov Isaacs wrote: > From: Dov Isaacs > Subject: RE: What version of Frame to Get Started ? > To: "neat_gent at yahoo.com" , "framers at > lists.frameusers.com" > Date: Thursday, May 15, 2008, 6:04 PM > Please be careful wrt/ EBay software "purchases" - > a large percentage > of what is hawked on EBay is either pirated or stolen > goods. Pirated > includes simply copying disks and giving you the serial > number as well > as massive CD duplication efforts. In some cases what is > being "sold" > is a copy of a package that already has been upgraded and > not eligible > to be legally transferred to someone else. Before bidding > on such an > item, get proof that it is indeed a legal copy that can be > legally > transferred. Such information could be obtained from Adobe > Customer > Support given a name and serial number. > > - Dov > > > -Original Message- > > From: Peter Courlis > > Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 6:54 AM > > > > Good Morning, > > > > I want to learn more about Framemaker, > > I have Ver. 5.5 and have fooled with that but > > need more experience... > > > > The prices of the latest version scare me, unless > > I had a contract or revenue input from writing... > > > > Recognizing that ver. 5.5 has basic functionality, > > what would be a next step? > > Is it worth searching EBay for ver. 6.0 or try > > to find ver. 7.1 at a reasonable price? > > > > On occasion, I find late versions of > "Upgrade" packages > > available on EBay... Would some version of Upgrade 7.0 > > (or 7.1) bring my ver. 5.5 up to the next current > level? > > > > The recent List discussion on Jahred's > "Beyond the Basics" > > has stirred my curiosity, therefore I have found a > copy > > of that text to read and review... > > > > Any comments appreciated > > A (latent) newbie Writer. > > > > -pc
Emphasis on characters within paragraphs
Hi, Sayed: On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 10:23 PM, wrote: >> Set all other attributes of the character style to As Is. This is >> easiest to do when the cursor is not in a text frame. > > Hmmm ... yes, but that is already the situation that I have - all *other* > attributes are already "As Is". So, I don't understand your response per se! > Can you elaborate, please? > > To iterate (in case I was not clear - my apologies): what I want to do is > have a *single* Character tag (called "Emphasis"), that *automatically* makes > the selected text Italic in paragraphs that have a default font that is > Regular, and makes the selected text Regular (non-Italic) in paragraphs that > have a default font that is Italic. You'll need to use Find to locate and select instances of the character tag you want to remove, then manually apply Default Paragraph Font from the Character Format Catalog, then manually apply the character format you want. While a FM character format can apply specific font properties to selected text, it can't "unapply" character properties - whether applied by a named character format, or applied as an override. "As Is" means "do not change;" it would be great if FM offered a "Restore Default Paragraph Font" feature. You can file a feature request at: http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform HTH Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
Publisher to Frame Conversion
Markzware offers a Publisher-to-InDesign converter. Not sure if it will help, but it's worth a look. > On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Howard Rauch >> My client is intending to convert a number of publications from Publisher to >> Frame. She is thinking that the firm will have to cut in Publisher, paste >> into Frame, and reformat. Is there an easier way? HTH Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
Subject: creating a table with row headings instead of column headings
Great solution, Wim! Regards, Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 2:27 AM, Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp wrote: > Hi Ben, > > To make a table with (repeating) row headers you can use a rotated frame, > create table and rotate the text. In fact you turn the tabel (90 degrees) > and use rotated the text (-90 degrees) so the display will be 'normal'. > You could make a special master page with a rotated text frame to hold the > table and maintain table continuation. > > HTH > > > Vriendelijke groet, > > Wim Hooghwinkel > > Adobe Certified Expert (ACE) in FrameMaker > > iDTP > > International DTP and Documentation Consultancy > > tel. +31652036811 > info at idtp.eu > www.idtp.eu
Sorting: Ignoring periods
Hi, Darren: Have you tried specifying the sort order with square brackets in each index marker? For example: Heidi Chronicles.[Heidi Chronicles] Heidi.[Heidi] etc. Markerworker is a free marker editing tool from cudspan. Search Google for: markerworker cudspan HTH Regards, Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 8:03 AM, Butler, Darren J CTR USAF AFMC 584 CBSS/GBHAC wrote: > Fred Ridder wrote: >>>The cause is easy. Period follow spaces in the standard sort order. > Any entry that includes Heidi followed by a space will sort before an > entry that has Heidi followed by a period (or almost any other > punctuation character). The best fix for your situation is another > matter...<< > > > If changing the SortOrder or the IgnoreChars building blocks won't help, > does anybody have any ideas on what else I can do - even if it's not a > total fix - because I have a customer that's producing very large > indexes. Finding every out-of-order "Heidi" would be tedious and > eye-straining. > > Thanx, > DJ > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docudoc at hotmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 12:33 PM > To: Butler, Darren J CTR USAF AFMC 584 CBSS/GBHAC > Subject: RE: Sorting: Ignoring periods > > The cause is easy. Period follow spaces in the standard sort order. > Any entry that includes Heidi followed by a space will sort before an > entry that has Heidi followed by a period (or almost any other > punctuation character). > > The best fix for your situation is another matter... > > > >> Subject: Sorting: Ignoring periods >> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:43:32 -0400 >> From: Darren.Butler.ctr at Robins.af.mil >> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com >> >> Hello fellow FrameManiacs, >> >> >> >> In an index of paragraph titles; >> >> >> >> I WANT: >> >> Heidi. >> >> Heidi Chronicles. >> >> Heidi Fleiss. >> >> Heidi Ho. >> >> Heidi Klum. >> >> >> >> I GET: >> >> Heidi Chronicles. >> >> Heidi Fleiss. >> >> Heidi Ho. >> >> Heidi Klum. >> >> Heidi. >> >> >> >> Do I need to monkey with the SortOrder of the IgnoreChars? >> >> >> >> TIA, >> >> DJ
FrameMaker -- removing heading rows in existing tables
Hi, Jim: Table formats don't set the number or size of rows or columns; creating or modifying a table sets these features. Table formats remember the size and number of columns and rows of the selected table when you create or revise a table format. For existing tables, you might try selecting and merging (Table > Straddle) the two heading rows. This combines the content of the two rows, so you may need to do some clean up editing. To revise the format to one heading row, select a new one-heading row table, and click Update All in the Table Designer. New tables will have the revised format. On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Jim Owens wrote: > Thanks, I'll keep it in mind. I was hoping to update the existing table > format somehow, so that we don't have to add a new format to the catalog > or manually edit each table. Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
RANT: FrameMaker's "help" function
Hi, Deirdre: In FM Help, it's common that information is present, but it is described in terms that aren't exactly the ones you expect or search for, or it is buried in the mass of found topics. Your search did find what you needed, about 12 lines down, in the topic, "Breaking tables at a specific place." Searches in Help file that's included in your FrameMaker installation (the one that comes up with the F1 key, or from Help > Help Topics) is and in the online Help you get by choosing Help > Complete FrameMaker Help, which takes you to a page at Adobe.com sometimes rank responses differently. Under User Guides, Using Adobe FrameMaker 8, clicking LiveDocs takes you to a searchable online version of the User Guide. Searching for table break returns the topic "Breaking tables at a specific place" as the third entry. This is all un- or under-documented. LiveDocs for some Adobe applications work like wikis - you can post comments and correction requests directly to them. You can contribute greatly to the FrameMaker community if you'd post a formal request at http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform to make the FM LiveDocs interactive, and also to correct the LiveDocs, PDF, and distributed versions of the FM Help topics "Controlling page breaks in tables," and "Controlling where tables begin" to include linked references to the topic "Breaking tables at a specific place." Future generations of FM users will thank you. HTH Regards, Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 2:56 PM, Deirdre Reagan wrote: > Is anyone else as annoyed by FrameMaker's useless help function as I am? > > I want to put a page break in my table. Here's what I get when I type > "table break" into the Help search function: > > *** > Controlling page breaks in tables > > If all the rows of a table don't fit in a text column, some of the > rows move to the next page or column. You can control how the table > breaks between pages or columns. For example, you can set the minimum > number of rows that can appear on a page or column, or specify that > two rows always appear together on the same page or column. You can > also force a break at any row in a table. > > When you insert a table, the minimum number of rows in a column or on > a page is determined by the table format. You can change this number > in the Table Designer. > > On the other hand, keeping two rows together and forcing a page break > are not part of the format; they are custom settings, which you make > on a case-by-case basis. If you apply a different format to the table, > these settings are not overwritten. > > For information on controlling where a table starts on a page or in a > column, see Controlling where tables begin. > *** > > Ok. So, I can control how the table breaks. Great! I can force a > break at any row in a table. Fantastic! > > Anyone notice anything missing? > > I especially like this nugget of useful information: "forcing a page > break [is] not part of the format; they are custom settings, which you > make on a case-by-case basis." > > Um, where? How? > > In case anyone here doesn't know, it's Table> Row Format > Start Row:. > > Deirdre > ___ >
RANT: FrameMaker's "help" function
Hi, Dierdre: On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Deirdre Reagan wrote: > Look at that! Yes indeed. > > If only someone would invent a function that allows a link between > text in one file and text in another file. Ah, a girl can dream. > > LOL > > Thanks, You're welcome. Please do file your requests for these improvements. In the meantime, you can download the FM 8 User Manual PDF and create a full-text searchable index for it with Acrobat's Catalog function, so you can perform searches any which-way you can think of, then comment the topics you needed to find, and save. IOW, a living help document. Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
Specifying HTML Colors in FM?
Hi, Ben: > On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 10:36 AM, Ben Hechter wrote: >> Hi Folks, >> >> Is there a way to specify HTML color codes in FM (e.g., #FF)? >> >> Thanks! >> >> Ben Hechter Use View > Color > Definitions > Color Libraries, and select Online in the pull-down list. Add the color(s) to the active list of colors in the current document; you can change the name to a text name like ShellPink, or use the #112233 notation. Then, you'll find the new color in the options wherever in FM that you specify colors. Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
Printing with line numbers
Gurus, Does anyone know if it is possible to get FM to print with line numbers? If so, how? I have reviewers wanting this. Peter
Unresolved Cross Reference
Howard, Change your view to "master pages" then search again. Peter -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Howard Rauch Sent: 21 October 2008 11:30 To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Unresolved Cross Reference Perhaps someone has a suggestion about how to resolve this. I have just?resolved all unresolved cross references in a 50-page document. When I search for any unresolved cross references, I get a message that none are found. Yet when I want to open or print the document, I get a message stating that the document has unresolved cross references. Is this?another FrameMaker glitsch? Howard Rauch?
Weird little anomoly...
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 12:01 PM, Art Campbell wrote: ... > Working in a book file, spell check refused to end. It reached the > last chapter in the book, then just kept on running. I got status > messages that spelling was OK, but it never stopped. > > AND... in both a book and file level Find&Replace, it doesn't stop > searching. Just goes on and on and on... > > Any ideas? Yes! To quote the intro to the TV show "Outer Limits," "There is nothing wrong with your set. Do not attempt to adjust the picture. We will control transmission..." The IT update probably enabled a hidden "future technology" switch in the spell checker. You're seeing a spell checker that tries to keep up with the constantly-changing English language, in real time. Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
Two-column layout and large graphics
>>I think the client would prefer that the text in the left column continue >>down the left column below the graphic, then continue to top of the right >>column, then below the graphic in the right column. >> >>Is there a way to do that in FM? Actually, yes, if you don't want the frame's content to be anchored to text and flow with it. Create a text or graphic frame with runaround contour or bounding box property, and position it over the two columns. The displaced text will snake down the left column, then to the top of the right column. HTH Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
Commas in paragraph tags
Hi, Chuck: I don't have a solution, but I do have a suggestion. It sounds as if you've found a bug in how FM processes the naming of paragraph (and probably character) format names. If an embedded comma confuses the running header/footer variable, it shouldn't be permitted when defining the format's name. An explanatory alert should appear. You might want to submit this as a bug report / feature request, at: http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices On Mon, Oct 27, 2008. at 10:56 AM, Charles Beck wrote: > Esteemed Framers, > > I have a problem I am hoping someone can help me solve. I have searched > the Frame documentation to no avail. I do not have time to search > through all the archives for this list; so please forgive if the info is > there (which I rather doubt). > > I have a set of templates that I inherited. I want to use the Heading 2 > paragraph style in a running header. Unfortunately, the paragraph style > is actually named "Heading 2,H2", which confuses FrameMaker when > encountered in a system variable paragraph tag <$paratext[Heading > 2,H2]>. Frame thinks it is a multiple style reference because of the > comma. That much I have learned from the documentation. > > The question is, short of renaming the paragraph style (which is not > really an option for us), is there any way to get Frame to recognized > this as a single paragraph style in a paragraph tag for a running > header? > > Please reply to me directly, as I am on digest. > > TIA for whatever help anyone can give me! > > Chuck Beck
Commas in paragraph tags
Hi, Charles: You can rename paragraph formats across a book's files using only FM's tools, this way: * Before proceeding, from the book window, perform Shift+File > Open All Files In Book, if they're not already open. Then, perform Shift+File > Save All Files In Book. * Click in a paragraph whose format you want to rename. * In the Paragraph Tag box of the Paragraph Designer, type the new name and click Apply. * Check Store in Catalog and Apply to Selection. The paragraph format now has the new name and the old properties. * Copy the paragraph format with Edit > Copy Special > Paragraph Format. The format is copied to the clipboard. * With a selection in any book file or the book window, use Edit > Find/Change > Find > Paragraph Tag and type in the old format name exactly (spaces, symbols, punctuation, comma, capitalization, etc) * Choose Change > By Pasting * Select Look In > Book * Try a few find/replace operations manually to see that things are working correctly. If all's OK, Click Change All to propagate the change across all the files in the book. * Do some spot checks in the chapters to verify the results. When you approve, from the book window, perform Shift+File > Save All Files In Book. If you have many files that are in different books, or are not in books at all, you can create a new book to contain them all, just for the purpose of changing the formats. Perform the Find/Change across the files, BUT don't update the book, to avoid changing any properties that are set in other books or individual chapters. HTH Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
Server-based (hosted) documentation and user comments (DocBook?)
[cross-posted to TECHWR-L mailing list] Can anyone recommend technologies to do the following: * Hosted documentation, available on the internet as a web service. * Each doc topic allows users to add comments. (e.g. "Here's a better example to do this task...") * Management tools to moderate user comments, and to handle documentation updates (retaining the comments). * Authoring tools to produce said documentation. The open source community exploits these technologies. How do they do it? I have an inkling for a solution: FrameMaker>DocBook>ePublisher? Thanks for your ideas
FrameImage (was Equation Editor Issues)
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 9:02 AM, wrote: > Question: What does "Save FrameImage with Imported Graphics" do? > Answer: Back in the early days when FrameMaker was a true cross-platform tool > that would allow you to work the same Frame file on Windows, Mac and various > flavors of Unix, FrameImage was an equilizer giving you a common format > across the three platforms for imported raster images. > While you could probably still use it with mif, etc. I doubt that many need > it today. FrameImage is mostly an artifact. Turning it on will bloat your > file sizes and give you little or no benefit. The common format was for image previews in FM documents, regardless of the platform or graphic format. Without a FrameImage, a graphic that couldn't be previewed would appear as a gray box placeholder on screen, but would reproduce correctly when output. Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
InDesign as a replacement for Framemaker
Hi, Dov: On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Dov Isaacs wrote: > To be very clear, although designed as a replacement for PageMaker, InDesign > was certainly not designed by Adobe to be a "replacement for FrameMaker." > > Yes, over time a number of FrameMaker features have been incorporated into > InDesign, but unless you are using none of FrameMaker's structured features > (support for XML and DITA), and conditional text, equations, etc., InDesign > won't satisfy your needs. InDesign's XML abilities are used in database publishing and other automated workflows. It also works with DTDs. Can you comment the pros and cons of FM's XML support vs. ID's XML support? Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
InDesign as a replacement for Framemaker
I respectfully disagree with Art's conclusion. While this feature comparison checklist is pretty thorough, and though it omits some features of both products, it is useful for some purposes. However, because it doesn't present a user's experience or evaluation in using either product for its intended professional work, or for the other product's intended professional work, by itself, it's not sufficiently informative for making a decision about adopting one or the other for one's technical-publishing workflow. On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 9:12 PM, Art Campbell wrote: > Adobe actually presents the case for deciding pretty well. > > http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/comparison.html >-- Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
InDesign as a replacement for Framemaker
This time I agree fully with Art! On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 8:24 AM, Art Campbell wrote: > As interesting as the thread on XML is (and it is), the OP didn't ask > anything about, or related to, XML. So we're experiencing some basic > thread drift. > > He's asking about moving from a technical publishing tool to a > design-driven tool, but not providing any details on why, or what > features he uses, or needs, or any other useful details. > > So other than saying that "Yes, you can do it, but unless you require > something that ID offers that FM doesn't it probably isn't worth the > bother," it's really difficult to go further than that. IMHO, of > course. It would be great to hear from the original poster, as well as anyone else who's considering making the move, or who is trying to make the move, about what's absolutely essential, what's been troublesome to adjust to, and what adjustments were smooth. Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
InDesign as a replacement for Framemaker
Hi, Robert: On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Robert Rogge wrote: > A drop in the pond on this runaway thread - > > For the documents I produce, there is no way that InDesign could handle the > work of Frame. That would be a real nightmare. In other words, they > *cannot*do each other?s jobs. > > I tend to be a meticulous user of Frame, and all of those features missing > from ID are key components to my workflow, and were they lost, I seriously > doubt that my documents could be managed effectively. Further, it goes > beyond these basics and when you start getting into the details, you find > similar problems. > > Variables, equations, and conditional text are *really, really > powerful*tools if you just develop the right work habits. Are there any other features and tools that you rely on in FM, that are missing in ID? Have you posted ID feature requests to the official request site: http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform You never know when or if your wishes will come true. > At first it > might seem a > pain in the ass, but once you get into the flow (and with some planning), > you start saving time incrementally. I agree that investing in the effort to learn things you need has its share of pain that's usually repaid by being to work efficiently and accurately. However, from your statement, it's a little ambiguous which pain you're referring to. Are you saying that the investment in pain is in planning and the learning curve in FM? Or is the pain in investing the effort in ID? Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
InDesign as a replacement for Framemaker
On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 1:51 PM, mulholland4 wrote: > Hi Peter, > I sent an email to Art and received a very good reply which I think answers > all of my questions (I have pasted them in the lower section of this email.) > My original reason for asking about InDesign as a replacement for > Framemaker was that I have been asked by a new manager to dispose of > Framemaker and transfer all writing tasks, 700 page User Guides, and various > other docs to InDesign. The problem I am worried about is that we use a lot > of cross references throughout the chapters and books and have a large > fairly comprehensive Index. I reviewed the DTP Tools Cross-Reference plug-in for InDesign CS2 and CS3 for InDesign Magazine around last December's issue. You'd have to buy the issue to see the whole review, but very briefly: It's on par with FM's cross-reference ability, and in some ways a little better. There's also a free cross-reference script that creates page-number-only references, and a commercial cross-reference tool from Virginia Systems that I didn't test. > I also use conditional text to output several > versions of the same doc. Can this be done in InDesign? ID CS3 has no conditional text, and I'm not aware of a third-party tool that offers it. The usual workaround is to create the different versions of content on different layers, and show or hide them as needed. It's not a good solution for content, product, or audience variations in a single language, because you really are maintaining multiple copies of the common content, and have to be careful to avoid introducing unwanted differences when editing. This is much the same effort as maintaining one separate file for each version. For multiple languages, where all content, or at least all text content, is translated in each variation, layers can work. Text wrap (FM's Text Runaround object property) is smart about working through layers, so showing/hiding different language layers with careful planning may simplify handling graphics in each language) and, BTW, ID wraps text around all sides of an object if you want, not just three sides as FM does. However, another approach is to use ID's XML ability to filter marked-up XML content. Mostly XML is being used with ID for variable-data publishing, and other automated production. There's no dedicated DITA support in ID. > And what about > generating a help system for InDesign, is it possible? There's no tightly-bound partner for help from ID, though again its XML export is one way to implement help coupled with other third-party tools. RTF export may be another possibility. I haven't heard anyone claim to be doing this. Yet. > > I believe that Art answered all of these questions, but feel free to make > any other comments or suggestions. > > Thanks for the help > Mulholand > > Here are Art's comments: > << I've moved books & files from FM to InDesign CS3, and unless there's > something else going on that the manager didn't share with you or you > didn't present in your email, this is going to be a Bad Idea of large > tarbaby proportions... > > InDesign is great for short docs, or even books, that require a lot of > individual formatting and exceptions to the base template or master > pages. It was designed as a PageMaker replacement, and it fulfills > that role very nicely. It's a nice program. > > Frame was designed to handle large books, multiple documents, and doc > sets that basically use the same type or set of page layouts in order > to produce a uniform look and feel. Essentially the 700 page User > Guide scenario that you present. ID has running header/footer variables, user-defined variables, master pages (even master pages based on other master pages), multiple numbering streams (1.1.1.1, and 1,A,ii,b, etc) for lists, figure captions, etc, as FM has. Page and chapter numbering, footnotes, and across-file numbering in books, are the same, but ID also can make multi-page spreads with appropriate page numbers on left and right (or on spreads of as many as ten pages) - FM can't. This isn't a common need in technical docs, so it's not a biggie. ID CS3 books are better than FM's in some ways, the same in some others, and worse in a few others. ID book files are lists of files, and instructions for processing them, like FM books. FM's cool feature of showing filename or first paragraph content in the book list is a good tool that ID lacks, but ID's Pages panel (like PageMaker's, if you know PM) shows thumbnail views of the pages in the current file, as well as identifying the master pages used on each page; you can identify chapter-opener page thumbnails easily, which is mostly what showing the first paragraph feature does. You can rearrange ID pages by drag
CORRECTION Re: InDesign as a replacement for Framemaker
Ooops! I just caught a typo, an omission that reverses the meaning. It's embedded in the body below, marked with * >Thanks Peter! You're welcome. > i'll take some time to go over this carefully, but this will be a great help > to me! > cheers > Mulholland On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Peter Gold wrote: On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 1:51 PM, mulholland4 wrote: > Hi Peter, > I sent an email to Art and received a very good reply which I think answers > all of my questions (I have pasted them in the lower section of this email.) > My original reason for asking about InDesign as a replacement for > Framemaker was that I have been asked by a new manager to dispose of > Framemaker and transfer all writing tasks, 700 page User Guides, and various > other docs to InDesign. The problem I am worried about is that we use a lot > of cross references throughout the chapters and books and have a large > fairly comprehensive Index. I reviewed the DTP Tools Cross-Reference plug-in for InDesign CS2 and CS3 for InDesign Magazine around last December's issue. You'd have to buy the issue to see the whole review, but very briefly: It's on par with FM's cross-reference ability, and in some ways a little better. There's also a free cross-reference script that creates page-number-only references, and a commercial cross-reference tool from Virginia Systems that I didn't test. > I also use conditional text to output several > versions of the same doc. Can this be done in InDesign? ID CS3 has no conditional text, and I'm not aware of a third-party tool that offers it. The usual workaround is to create the different versions of content on different layers, and show or hide them as needed. It's not a good solution for content, product, or audience variations in a single language, because you really are maintaining multiple copies of the common content, and have to be careful to avoid introducing unwanted differences when editing. This is much the same effort as maintaining one separate file for each version. For multiple languages, where all content, or at least all text content, is translated in each variation, layers can work. Text wrap (FM's Text Runaround object property) is smart about working through layers, so showing/hiding different language layers with careful planning may simplify handling graphics in each language) and, BTW, ID wraps text around all sides of an object if you want, not just three sides as FM does. However, another approach is to use ID's XML ability to filter marked-up XML content. Mostly XML is being used with ID for variable-data publishing, and other automated production. There's no dedicated DITA support in ID. > And what about > generating a help system for InDesign, is it possible? There's no tightly-bound partner for help from ID, though again its XML export is one way to implement help coupled with other third-party tools. RTF export may be another possibility. I haven't heard anyone claim to be doing this. Yet. > > I believe that Art answered all of these questions, but feel free to make > any other comments or suggestions. > > Thanks for the help > Mulholand > > Here are Art's comments: > << I've moved books & files from FM to InDesign CS3, and unless there's > something else going on that the manager didn't share with you or you > didn't present in your email, this is going to be a Bad Idea of large > tarbaby proportions... > > InDesign is great for short docs, or even books, that require a lot of > individual formatting and exceptions to the base template or master > pages. It was designed as a PageMaker replacement, and it fulfills > that role very nicely. It's a nice program. > > Frame was designed to handle large books, multiple documents, and doc > sets that basically use the same type or set of page layouts in order > to produce a uniform look and feel. Essentially the 700 page User > Guide scenario that you present. ID has running header/footer variables, user-defined variables, master pages (even master pages based on other master pages), multiple numbering streams (1.1.1.1, and 1,A,ii,b, etc) for lists, figure captions, etc, as FM has. Page and chapter numbering, footnotes, and across-file numbering in books, are the same, but ID also can make multi-page spreads with appropriate page numbers on left and right (or on spreads of as many as ten pages) - FM can't. This isn't a common need in technical docs, so it's not a biggie. ID CS3 books are better than FM's in some ways, the same in some others, and worse in a few others. ID book files are lists of files, and instructions for processing them, like FM books. FM's cool feature of showing filename or first paragraph content in the book list
FrameMaker vs. InDesign, round CS4
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 5:24 PM, wrote: > Sarah, > > As a final thought, I'll add this. Any tool that won't automatically > add pages to the text flow when I come to the end of a page is an > automatic no-go. If I have to add text boxes to the page in order to > enter text, it's a no-go. Here's the deal: Smart Text Reflow is one of the "smaller" new features in ID CS4. It's a preference you need to set, and it's got some options. It adds pages as you type, and deletes empty ones when you delete content from them, which isn't often a designer's need. ID has always had auto-flow for "placed" content (like File > Import > File in FM). It creates pages as it needs them. You'll need to read the short passage in Help, when ID CS4 is released. HTH Regards, Peter Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
FrameMaker vs. InDesign, round CS4
Hi, Sarah: (I also posted on your blog) "...UNTIL NOW...," as the late movie trailer guy might say, I've been under Adobe's non-disclosure agreement for ID CS4 pre-release testers. "...BUT, IN A WORLD..." where disclosure can now be thrown to the winds, I'll add a few comments. ID's been sneaking up on FM's long technical-document authoring tool set for a few releases. ID CS3 added system- and user-defined variables, running headers, table styles (named table formats), cell styles, named object styles, and nested styles - the ability to specify a pattern that applies named character styles to matching content within paragraphs - and it improved numbered lists a HUGE amount. ID CS4 is closing in with new additions that matter to technical authors: cross-references, conditional text, smart text reflow (real-time adding new pages as needed, and deleting them when empty), along with boosting the already-powerful nested paragraph feature to include, selecting by a GREP pattern as you noted, and also by line number within the paragraph, so the nth line will get the character style you specify, no matter how it wraps or flows, and the ability to repeat (or loop) applying the sequence of styles (sort of a macro ability.) FrameMaker users who don't use CS3-level Adobe Illustrator or Photoshop will need time to adjust to Adobe's corporate user interface, and learning new ways to perform familiar tasks. Plus, just because something's on the package label, trust - but verify. Don't assume. Here are a few FrameMaker features that you may miss: * Run-in paragraphs * Side headings and side-heading area * Paragraphs that flow with text and also straddle multiple columns, and multiple columns AND side heads * Table sorting * No Track Changes * No logical conditional text expressions - AND and NOT were added in FM 8 * No "size matters" inter-paragraph spacing - FM uses the larger of space below and space above for paragraph spacing. ID, like most other applications, adds the space below and space above, which makes it more complicated to set up paragraph formats that will space as you need, regardless of who-follows-what. * Frame above /below paragraphs can contain graphics, text, or a mix. ID's rules above/below paragraph are great, but they aren't containers. Here are a few FrameMaker features in ID CS4 that are a little more complicated to do: * To jump to a cross-reference source from within FrameMaker, instead of Ctrl+Alt+Click, you click in the Cross-Reference panel * Index markers support multiple-level entries, but can't create multiple entries in one marker like FM's ":" technique * Without run-in paragraphs, you need to strategize to create TOC entries from a partial heading There's a very good third-party conversion tool that converts MIF files to InDesign (dtptools.com). However, migrating FrameMaker content to InDesign depends on what FrameMaker are in them for which InDesign has no direct counterpart, whether you use a commercial tool or do it manually. It's something like converting Microsoft Word files to FrameMaker. There's work to be done. The conversion tool's nearly-clonelike reproduction of FM pages in ID comes from its minute adjustments of paragraph formats, meaning many formats are overridden uniquely. Most of the tweaks are paragraph settings - space between, run-in, side heading, straddle headings, frame above/below, table-cell properties. One of the greatest ID features from early on is the INFINITE UNDO UNDO UNDO! It doesn't clear its history when you perform certain actions. You can experiment nearly forever, and roll back to "square one." ID saves every action you perform - an instant autosave; after a crash, it can restore almost every last one. If you're considering ID as a replacement for FM, test-drive ID in parallel with an FM project or two, to see if your wishes are rewarded or exceeded, and if your needs are served. During my testing, I compared the long-document features so much that I decided to write a book on the core issues for FrameMaker users moving to Indesign. FM Mac diehards - don't forget that ID works on Mac OS X, both Intel and PowerPC G4/G5 chips. FM's stuck at 7.0 on Classic or OS 9 on Mac. Regards, Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
Element boundaries
Hi, Roger: The property is saved in each file. You can set the property for multiple files by selecting them in a book window and using View > Show (or Hide) Element Boundaries, then perform Shift+File > Save All Files In Book. HTH Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Shuttleworth, Roger wrote: > Hello All > > > > I am working with XML files in FM 7.1. > > > > I prefer to work with Element Boundaries visible, so after opening a file I > set this option on the View menu. However, when I close the file and open > another one, I have to set it again. Is there any way to have this set as a > permanent preference? I searched the maker.ini file but there seems to be > no option there. > >
Space!........ABOVE & BELOW!!
Hi, Darren: It's a good idea to avoid surprises caused by the addition of space below/above consecutive paragraphs. I'm not sure if you know that FrameMaker is nearly unique* in its method of inter-paragraph space settings. It's about "size matters." FrameMaker honors the larger of space below and space above to set the space between them. Almost all other text-creation tools combine the spaces. The additive method requires more thought about designing for many possible combinations of consecutive paragraph formats. *I believe that Ventura Publisher offers the option to work either larger one wins, or additive. Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Butler, Darren J CTR USAF AFMC 584 CBSS/GBHAC wrote: > Hello fellow FrameManiacs, > > I'd like to know your philosophy - if you have one - on using the > "Above Pfg:" and "Below Pgf:" parameters when designing templates. > > I have recently set all my ParaTags to "Below Pgf: = 0.0" to avoid any > compounding of spaces. I'm using the "Below " setting only in special > cases or when I need to override a tag (which I try and keep to a > minimum). > > > > Thanx, > > DJ > > > > Darren J Butler > > NG Corp > > [Space; the Final Frontier...] >
Page numbering question
Hi, Keith: Search FM Help for last page in book, and choose the topic "Including the total page count of a book in a header or footer," (or just search for "total page count.") HTH Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 5:42 PM, Keith Soltys wrote: > I've run into something that's stumped me. > > Our house style for our technical docs has the page numbering style Page > x of y, where y is the total number of pages in the document. This is > easy to do in Word. I don't like it, but I need to set up a template in > Frame that matches the Word template we've been using. > > I thought it would be easy to do in Frame, as there is a > <$LastPageCount> variable which includes the last page number of the > document. But, in a book with multiple files I want the last page number > of the book. And what I'm getting is not right. For example, in chapter > 1 I get page 7 of 13, in chapter 2 I get page 18 of 26, and so on. The > page number count is correct but the last page number is the last page > number of the chapter file, not the book. It's only accurate for the > last file in the book. > > Does anyone know if it's possible to do this type of page numbering in > Frame and if so, how? > > Thanks > Keith > ___
InDesign and FrameMaker Text Entry Comparison (WAS: FrameMaker vs. InDesign, round CS4)
This is really a new topic.
>> On 23 Sep 2008, at 21:05, quills at airmail.net wrote:
>
>> Every time I try the demo of InDesign I can't get past the part where
>> I make a page and look for where the text entry starts. As in, where
>> is the cursor for text?
and
> On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 9:38 AM, Paul Findon
> responded:
>
> On the New Document dialog box, select Master Text Frame, then click
> OK. When the new document appears, select the Text tool, Command-
> Shift-click (Ctrl+Shift+click) the frame, and start typing.
This is a good start, but, wait, there's more to it. While the "power
click" brings an InDesign master-page text frame to the body page,
where it works both like and differently from FM, you'll soon fill it
to overflowing, and then...
* You can only type to the bottom of the first text frame; additional
typing is "overset," as typographers call it, indicated by a red "+"
in the lower-right text-frame border, if the Screen Mode is Normal
(not Preview), and the text frame is selected (use the black arrow
tool, aka Selection tool.)
* In FM, it's called "overflow," indicated by a horizontal black line
at the bottom of the frame, if View > Borders is enabled. Because FM
documents typically are designed with auto-connect properties that
cause filled main text frames (like Flow A) to create new text frames
on new pages, it's uncommon to overflow main text flow frames
unintentionally. Main text frames on disconnected FM pages, or those
drawn on any body pages with the text frame tool, do overflow, rather
than connecting automatically to new frames on new pages. You can
connect disconnected text frames manually, using Format > Customize
Layout > Connect Text Frames, to thread text flows across frames and
pages. This is similar to the method of flowing stories across frames
and pages in most layout programs.
* In InDesign earlier than CS4, to add content across pages by typing,
you'd need to manually add pages and connect ("thread") the text
frames manually.
* You can work in the Story Editor window in all InDesign versions,
instead of a layout window, and enter text without concern about
getting stuck when a text frame becomes overset. The Story Editor
indicates where overset begins, but it doesn't stop you from adding
new content.
* In CS4, there's a new feature, Auto Text Reflow, that makes ID work
as you're expecting, based on your experience in FrameMaker, or other
non-layout-centric DTP tools and word-processors.
* ID and FM can do many of the same things, but they often work
differently, as in this example. If you're giving ID a good workout
and get stuck, these InDesign-specific resources will be helpful:
* The Adobe User-to-User InDesign Macintosh and Windows forums (often
the postings aren't platform-specific, so you need to read both to see
all questions and answers), and the Lassosoft InDesign list. Adobe.com
offers a lot of video tutorials and other resources on all the Adobe
products.
* Don't overlook the Help
* Visit the third-party InDesign book descriptions at Amazon.com. Two
very popular dedicated InDesign titles are "Adobe InDesign CS3 Visual
Quick Start," by Sandee Cohen, and "Real World InDesign CS3," by Olav
Kvern and David Blatner.
* These ID-specific resources don't address FM-to-ID issues, so if you
find that applying the FrameMaker side of your brain InDesign causes
headaches, post your questions here.
HTH
Regards,
Peter
__
Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices
Structure View won't appear
Hi, Ben: It's possible that the window is opening off screen. This can be caused by lowering your screen resolution, or changing to a smaller monitor, between the time you closed FM with the window far off-center, and opening FM in the smaller screen. Have you tried using the Windows control menu - the one that comes up when you click the icon in the top-left corner of the application's (FM's) menu bar, choosing Move, then using the cursor arrow keys to move a possibly-off-screen structure window bqck "home?" The structure window may be to the left, right, top, or bottom. I believe the window settings are saved in one of the maker.ini files (there are two, one for user, one for application; use Windows Search to find them. Make a safety copy, then pen in a text editor or FM and look for windows location settings: four pairs of numbers separated by commas, to define the corner locations. I think if you change the first one to 10,10 it locates the top-left corner ten pixels down and ten pixels in from the left. Save the file - IF IN FM, REMEMBER TO SAVE AS TEXT! Quit and restart FM. If this messes things up, rename maker.ini to xmaker.ini, and rename the safety copy to maker.ini, then restart FM. HTH Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 2:22 PM, wrote: > Whenever I try to modify a structured document, the Structure View will > not appear when I click the Structure View button. All of the other > dialogs will open when I click them (i.e. the Element Catalog). Even if > I try the keyboard shortcut, the Structure View still will not open. I > even tried uninstalling and then reinstalling Frame, and I still have > the problem. Has anyone else experienced this issue? I'm running > FrameMaker 8.0p277. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Ben Hardesty > > Senior Technical Writer > > Eaton Corporation > > Electrical Group > > tel: 412-893-4627 > > cell: 412-913-3316 > > www.eaton.com
Backup folder in Frame 7.0?
I would strongly suggest giving the folders numeric names in the mmdd format (e.g. 20080929) then you will be easily able to find the latest. Peter -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art Campbell Sent: 29 September 2008 12:34 To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Backup folder in Frame 7.0? And building on that, you can, occasionally, convert them into a snapshot backup directory. Just move the files to a date-stamped directory of your choice: /project/August_10/ /project/August_20/ /project/August_30/ As you reopen and save files in FM, the .backup.fms are created again, so you have both a collection of last-saved files and incremental backup directories. Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded grl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 10:00 PM, Fred Ridder wrote: > > Jack Molisani wrote: >> I like that FM can make a backup copy of files, but I don't like the >> backup files cluttering up the same folder as the source files. >> >> Is there any way to specify where FrameMaker 7.0 should create the >> backup files? > The "backup" files aren't really backups. Once you understand what > they actually are it will become clear that they can only exist in the > same directory as the working source files. > > The "backup" are actually the last saved version of the file but with > a new, secondary filename extension. When you select the "Automatic > backup on save" option, all that FrameMaker does when you do a Save is > rename the previous version of the file with a .bak extenstion rather > than flagging it for deletion by the OS. The "backup" is therefore > always one save behind the working file unless you go to the extra > trouble of making FrameMaker let you do two consecutive saves. If you > save frequenty, the differences between the .bak and the workng file > may not be major, but the .bak will *always* lack the last set of > saved changes. > > -Fred Ridder > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gma > il.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as peter at galley.ie. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/peter%40galley.ie Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Migrating features over to InDesign
Hi, Lea: In case you missed it, I've noted some of the differences between FM and ID that make it difficult to accomplish perfect automated conversions in this thread: http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/2008-September/013757.html If your documents rely heavily on the problematic features, consider posting your requests for changes in both FM and ID at Adobe's official link: http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform HTH Regards, Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 10:57 AM, Lea Rush wrote: > Damn. Thanks for the heads' up. My hope is that once they consider InDesign > to have incorporated Frame's features, they also make the migration of > existing Frame projects reasonably simple. > > _ > > Lea Rush
Migrating features over to InDesign
Hi, Lea: On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Lea Rush wrote: > Hi Peter, > > Thanks for the reminder and the link. You're welcome. > Quite frankly, I'll be using Frame > until it's metaphorically pried from my cold, dead fingers. I have a lot of > duties aside from document creation and maintainence*, and the longer I can > put off the inevitable learning curve, the better. I hope I haven't unintentionally implied or added to the suspicion that FM is/will be discontinued in favor of ID. The FM "Next" development team is working intensely as always. Don't be shy about posting wishes to Adobe's official feature-request site: http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
FrameMaker-Acrobat-Other?
Hi, Ben: Have you examined the links in the PDF with the Link tool? Perhaps you'll find a clue that sheds light on the behavior. HTH On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 4:16 PM, Anderson, Ben wrote: > > An additional note about this error. The hyperlinks in my PDF index > open to the first page of the corresponding PDF, not the actual page the > index tag references. > > Could this be a SharePoint issue? > Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
Password and restrict copying rights on pdf files generated fromFramemaker
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Flato, Gillian wrote: > I don't know if you can do it in Frame, but you can definitely do it in > Adobe Acrobat Pro. I do it for all of my PDF manuals. > > -Gillian > > > -Original Message- > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Andersen, > Verner Engell VEA > Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 2:16 AM > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Password and restrict copying rights on pdf files generated > fromFramemaker > > Hi > > Can you set pdf file generation from Framemaker up so that pdf files are > protected from editing and copying? > > Med venlig hilsen - Best regards InDesign's PDF export offers security options. This suggests that it's possible to create the appropriate security code when creating the PDF. So, perhaps there's a FrameMaker add-on or plug-in that might offer the same options. HTH Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
FM 9 Keyboard Shortcuts (ATTN: R. Jacquez!)
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Mike Wickham wrote: >>At the very least, give us a list of keyboard commands for UI manipulation. > > I found some commands in wincmds.cfg: > >> (Toggle) Between open document tabs? > > Ctrl-F6 (ShowNextKit) and Shift-Ctrl-F6 (ShowPrevKit) > There is still some bugginess, though. The commands worked always in with > .FM files. Ctrl-F6 would cycle through the .FM files, then jump back to the > first and cycle again. Shift-Ctrl-F6 did the same in reverse. > > Book files, pods, and panels seem to want to work the same way, but as a > conglomerate that is separate from the .FM files. That is, if one of them is > the focus, Ctrl-F6 can cycle between them all, but skips the .FM files. This > is where I found bugginess. The command would not jump to the Variables and > locked up. This may be related to the bug that keeps one from using the > Commands button in the Designer panels until the panel is first closed and > reopened, or switched to another designer panel page. I noticed that closing > and reopening the Variables pod made Ctrl-F6 work for it, too. When the > command cycles to the Paragraph Designer, there is no flashing cursor to let > you know. > >> Between pages of the Designer dialogs? I'm on my Mac now, so I can't check this out, but in FM 8 and earlier, PgUp/PgDn would cycle through Paragraph, Character, and (I think) Table designer property pages. HTH Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
searching for article in front of a variable
> I have a variable (government ministry of health shortform) that affects > the > article in front of it. Each province has a different shortform. When I > change the variable, the article may be affected. > > For example, in the Ontario doc, it's "an MOH bill", while in New > Brunswick, > it should be "a DHW bill". > > Is there any way to search for "a " or "an ", or do I > have to just search for all instances of that variable to check the article > in front of it? If the form name always appears with appropriate article, would it suffice to define the variable with the article and the form name, as: "a DHW " or "an MOH "? HTH Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
Table footnotes
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Martinek, Carla wrote: > Is there a way to increase the spacing between the bottom line of the > table, and the text in a table footnote? My text appears to be right up > against the bottom of the table, and nothing I've tried can get it to > move. The table footnote separator frame on the reference page controls the spacing below the table, and the position of the separator line within the frame. HTH Regards, Peter ______ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
Table footnotes
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Martinek, Carla wrote: > > > Thank you! ?I should have known that... > > Problem solved. Of course you knew it! You just forgot that you knew it. I only reminded you! Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
[Free Framers] FrameMaker 9 screen-refresh problems with VMWare Fusion 2 on Intel Mac with OS X 10.5.6 "Leopard"
[Cross-posted to "Framers (E-mail)" , FrameMaker Discussion Forum , adobe.framemaker at forum.adobe.com] Thanks to all who responded. Apologies for the delay in replying; I wanted to be sure the problem was solved, which seems to be the case. Wayne's suggestion seems to be the one that works. FrameMaker wasn't the only thing affected; it was just the first application I tried; its history of screen redraw issues erroneously made it the first usual suspect. Later, I noticed that the same redraw issues existed in Windows XP under Fusion 2 with my memory settings. I think the principle is something like: The memory setting for VMware Fusion controls the guest operating system's environment - XP, in this case, and the host platform - Mac, in this case - manages the memory needs of the application(s) running in the VMware Fusion environment, as if it were just another Mac application. So, this may help me delay giving in to the hardware lust lurking in me; I won't buy that 6GB RAM upgrade from Other World Computing right away! But, there's this attractive 7200 RPM replacement notebook drive that's... On my MacBook Pro laptop, although it's got 512 MB of VRAM, I thought the problem might also involve the refreshing of its 17" screen with its many pixels, so I also lowered the Windows display setting to 16-bit color from the default 32-bit. I haven't seen any graphics look bad enough for me to try setting it back to 32-bit, yet. On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 4:24 AM, Wayne Brissette wrote: > Peter: > > I would knock down the memory on the windows side. I know it sounds > strange, but leaving it at 640 (the VM default) actually seems to work > without any issues. Whereas when I increased it, it simply causes all > sorts of odd issues similar to what you're seeing. That would be my > first step at this point however. >>Is it just me or my equipment, or payback for sins of my childhood? >>I'd appreciate hearing from anyone who's having these problems, as >>well as those who are using a similar setup and don't have the >>problem. > Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
FrameMaker 9 screen-refresh problems with VMWare Fusion 2 on Intel Mac with OS X 10.5.6 "Leopard"
I've just started using this combination of tools: FrameMaker 9.0 p196 VMWare Fusion 2 Intel Mac MacBook Pro Mac OS X 10.5.6 '' Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
Cross-ref formats
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Les Smalley wrote: > I think you need to have at least formats for referring only to the numbered > bit (e.g., Appendix D) as well as the entire title with number (e.g. Appendix > D,?"Frying Pans and Toasters.") > > The biggest issue with the second format is if the text being cited includes > punctuation itself. > > My preference would be to exclude terminal punctuation from the text and > allow the writers to add it as needed in constructing their sentences > including the references. > > I would also omit the quotation marks from the XRef formats and instead > italicize (or bold) the text being cited (including the numbered prefixing > info) to help it stand out from the surround paragraph and give your writers > the maximum flexibility with a minimal number of formats to insert in their > content. > > ? Les Smalley As usual, Les has hit the nail! It's a good solution unless your style guide is iron-clad in its support of the common usage of enclosing quoted material in double quotes. Although these citations are quotes, they are also source names; it's common to use italics or other emphasis property to identify source names, such as these heading titles. I'd add the suggestion that you create a uniquely-named character format, for example, "head_cite," that applies only the unique text properties to the referenced material; this makes it easy to modify the appearance, if necessary, without affecting "Emphasis, bold" or other defined character formats. HTH Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProService
FM9 and two monitors
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Mike Wickham wrote: > You can even have multiple FM documents open on > multiple monitors. Although FM still doesn't offer multiple window views of a single document in FM 9, it's always been possible to launch FM multiple times, and open additional copies of one document for viewing different parts of the same document at the same time. When you open an open document in another FM instance, FM displays a message that the document is open, and offers the options of opening an untitled editable copy, a view-only copy, or opening the document for editing again (with a caution.) The safest choice is to open a read-only copy, because you can copy content from it by pressing Ctrl (Shift+Ctrl if using FM in a Windows virtual environment on a Macintosh) and dragging to select text for copying. Working with only one editable window and one or more uneditable windows avoids the problem of saving the wrong version over the correct one. In FM 9, the Track Text Edits feature is very helpful to keep things straight; in earlier releases, you can apply condition tags, save progressive edited versions and use File > Utilities > Compare Documents to monitor changes. Multiple monitors make the process easier, but you can customize your working view on a single monitor by Right Clicking on the Windows task bar to present the option of tiling active (non-minimized) applications, similar to tiling document windows in a single application. HTH Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
View Only
Is it possible that either you've imported the PDF of the chart into the frame that held the drawn graphic chart, or you've inadvertently copied a frame on top of the frame that contains the chart? I suspect this happened when you dragged the frame on the master page, if, while you held Ctrl to change the text pointer to the graphic pointer in order to select the frame, you dragged the frame with Ctrl still pressed. HTH Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Art Campbell wrote: > Try keying in: > ? Esc F l k > > the file lock command toggle, and see if anything changes. You should > see the menus change immediately and be able to work in the file. > > If nothing at all happens, do it a second time to toggle it off. > > Art Campbell > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? art.campbell at gmail.com > ?"... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 > Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?No disclaimers apply. > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? DoD 358 > > > > On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 9:23 AM, Judy Bragg wrote: >> I'm using FM8 to build PDF documents >> Yesterday, I spent quite a while building a flowchart.? Each step is a >> hotspot that takes them to the relavant topic in the manual.? I got it done >> just in time to insert it to the manual, PDF it and send it to tech. support. >> Today, I'd like to take that flowchart and modify it for a similar program.? >> My problem is that, for some reason, it acts like a view only document.? I >> can select the text box from the master page and I can select the graphic >> frame in which I drew the flowchart, but I can't select the component parts >> of the flowchart itself.? I've tried both methods of toggling the View Only >> property and the button in the Hypertext dialog changes back and forth.? >> Unfortunately, when (according to the status of the button) the document >> should be editable, I still can't edit my flow chart. >> Does anyone out there have any ideas what else I could try? >> Thanks in advance for your wisdom and help! >> Judy Bragg >> Technical Writer >> Hypack, Inc. >> judy at hypack.com
View Only
Hi, Judy: On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Judy wrote: > Peter, > You win the prize! ?I had a text frame covering the entire chart. ?I often > inadvertently copy by continuing to hold the Ctrl key while I attempt to > move a frame. ?I'm sure that must've happened and I didn't notice. Been there, done that, trained people not to do that. A good way to learn how to fix mistakes is to make them. > Thanks for solving the mystery and saving me a ton of time! You're welcome! Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices > Judy > > Peter Gold wrote: >> >> Is it possible that either you've imported the PDF of the chart into >> the frame that held the drawn graphic chart, or you've inadvertently >> copied a frame on top of the frame that contains the chart? I suspect >> this happened when you dragged the frame on the master page, if, while >> you held Ctrl to change the text pointer to the graphic pointer in >> order to select the frame, you dragged the frame with Ctrl still >> pressed. >> >> HTH >> >> Regards, >> >> Peter >> __ >> Peter Gold >> KnowHow ProServices >> >> On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Art Campbell >> wrote: >> >>> >>> Try keying in: >>> ?Esc F l k >>> >>> the file lock command toggle, and see if anything changes. You should >>> see the menus change immediately and be able to work in the file. >>> >>> If nothing at all happens, do it a second time to toggle it off. >>> >>> Art Campbell >>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ?art.campbell at gmail.com >>> ?"... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 >>> Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson >>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? No disclaimers apply. >>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?DoD 358 >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 9:23 AM, Judy Bragg wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> I'm using FM8 to build PDF documents >>>> Yesterday, I spent quite a while building a flowchart. ?Each step is a >>>> hotspot that takes them to the relavant topic in the manual. ?I got it done >>>> just in time to insert it to the manual, PDF it and send it to tech. >>>> support. >>>> Today, I'd like to take that flowchart and modify it for a similar >>>> program. ?My problem is that, for some reason, it acts like a view only >>>> document. ?I can select the text box from the master page and I can select >>>> the graphic frame in which I drew the flowchart, but I can't select the >>>> component parts of the flowchart itself. ?I've tried both methods of >>>> toggling the View Only property and the button in the Hypertext dialog >>>> changes back and forth. ?Unfortunately, when (according to the status of >>>> the >>>> button) the document should be editable, I still can't edit my flow chart. >>>> Does anyone out there have any ideas what else I could try? >>>> Thanks in advance for your wisdom and help! >>>> Judy Bragg >>>> Technical Writer >>>> Hypack, Inc. >>>> judy at hypack.com >>>> >> >> >> >
FM9 and Text Frames
Hi, Alison: The space above the first paragraph in a text frame is ignored; space below the last paragraph is also ignored. You can achieve the space above by one of these approaches: * Create a named graphic frame of the desired height on the document's Reference Page, and in the Frame Above property in the Advance panel of the Paragraph Designer, for the callout paragraph format, specify the reference frame's name, to attach the frame above the paragraph. Look up Reference Frame in FM Help for details. * Create a character format with everything set to As Is, except set the font size to a size that will create the extra space above. You'll need to iterate this a few times, after you do the next step. In the paragraph designer's Autonumber Format text box, for the callout paragraph format, enter "\st" without quotes; this will create a thin space in the place where autonumbers usually go. Choose the character format you created with only a font size; this will make the thin space taller than the main font size of the paragraph. Look up autonumbering in FM help, then choose Specify a Special Bullet Symbol, to see how to use special character formats with autonumbers. HTH Regards, Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices > --- On Wed, 8/19/09, Alison Craig wrote: > > From: Alison Craig > Subject: FM9 and Text Frames > To: "framers at lists.frameusers.com" > Received: Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 2:27 PM > > Version: FM9 > OS: XP Pro with SP3 > > I am almost finished transferring my User Manuals from MS Word to FM9, > however, I have run into a problem with some images. > > In Word, I use Text Boxes to highlight various items in an image. Each Text > Box is surrounded by a border of a specific weight that sits a specific > distance from the actual text. > > I have not been able to achieve this effect in FM9 with Text Frames. After a > bit of trial and error I managed to get the side borders to sit a specific > distance from the text (eg, 1mm) but the text on the top always touches the > actual text as if it were an underline (or "overline" as it were). The > Paragraph style I created to use inside the Text Frame specifies the indents > and spacing but the text doesn't seem to obey the Above and Below Pgf > settings - no matter how big I make them. > > Does anyone have any suggestions for overcoming this? I have a lot of these > "labeled" images to handle. I just gave a quick try to create an image with > Visio and then import it, but Visio seems to have issues of its own. > > I can send an example image of what I am getting in FM9 as well as I what I > am trying for (from Word) if this would help. > > Also, is there any way to make the corners of the Text Frames rounded instead > of square? > > Thanks, > > Alison > > > Alison Craig, Technical Writer > Ultrasonix Medical Corporation > 130 - 4311 Viking Way > Richmond, BC? V6V 2K9 > Tel: (604) 279-8550, ext 127 > Fax: (604) 279-8559 > E-mail: alison.craig at ultrasonix.com<mailto:alison.craig at ultrasonix.com> > >
TOC/Index unformatted
Hi, Linda: On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Branam, Linda C wrote: > I'm a newbie to the list and to FrameMaker. I am working on my first document > and when I Update Book, the TOC and Index are created, but they are not > formatted. > > Can anyone tell me what's wrong and how to resolve it? > > > Thanks, > Linda > Linda Frost Branam > Senior Technical Editor - Aesbus Knowledge Solutions > HP Personal Systems Group--Notebooks Your documentation team should have a formatted TOC and index template for the doc set you're working on. Check with your teammates and manager for their location. When you find them, open them, and open the unformatted generated TOC and index you created. With the unformatted TOC active, use File > Import > Formats and choose the TOC template to import its formatting; do the same from the unformatted index. HTH Regards, Peter ___ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
TOC/Index unformatted
Hi, Brenda: On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 6:01 PM, Branam, Linda C wrote: > Peter, > > That did it. Glad to hear it. > But now I have another problem. It's a good practice to start a new thread with an identifying title, for an unrelated problem, so folks can be more likely to find it and offer help. Regards, Peter _______ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices > I wanted registration marks and specified them everywhere I could think of, > but they aren't showing, even though I made sure Western was selected in both > the Print Book dialog and the subdialog PDF Setup for Selected Files. > > Anyone have any idea what's going on? > > Thanks, > Linda > > -Original Message- > From: knowhowpro at gmail.com [mailto:knowhowpro at gmail.com] On Behalf Of > Peter Gold > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 2:32 PM > To: Branam, Linda C > Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: TOC/Index unformatted > > Hi, Linda: > > On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Branam, Linda C wrote: >> I'm a newbie to the list and to FrameMaker. I am working on my first >> document and when I Update Book, the TOC and Index are created, but they are >> not formatted. >> >> Can anyone tell me what's wrong and how to resolve it? >> >> >> Thanks, >> Linda >> Linda Frost Branam >> Senior Technical Editor - Aesbus Knowledge Solutions HP Personal >> Systems Group--Notebooks > > Your documentation team should have a formatted TOC and index template for > the doc set you're working on. Check with your teammates and manager for > their location. When you find them, open them, and open the unformatted > generated TOC and index you created. With the unformatted TOC active, use > File > Import > Formats and choose the TOC template to import its formatting; > do the same from the unformatted index. > > > HTH > > Regards, > > Peter > ___ > Peter Gold > KnowHow ProServices >
Missing registration marks
On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Fred Ridder wrote: > > I just tried creating a PDF with registration marks from FrameMaker 8.0 and > Acrobat 9.0 Pro using the "print to Adobe PDF printer" method with the > Standard job options (box standard Adobe setup) and it worked fine. It even > worked fine using the Smallest File Size job options settings. So that > doesn't appear to be the problem. > > -Fred Ridder The paper size has to be "larger enough" than the page size to display the marks. IOW, a slightly-larger paper size may not have enough room for the marks. Try a tabloid or larger paper size. HTH Regards, Peter ___ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
Missing registration marks
Sounds like someone should enter a feature request to fix the UI so this is made clear. Regards, Peter ___ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Fred Ridder wrote: > > > Good one Linda. I forgot about that and nobody had mentioned it yet. I'll bet > money that this was the cause of Linda Branam's problem. > > Registration marks and interactive features like hyperlinks are for mutually > exclusive applications. > > -Fred Ridder >
Disappearing anchored frames: strange FrameMaker bug
Just a quick thought: With View > Text Symbols ON, does any frame in the text flow display the black line overflow indicator at the bottom of the frame? This might shed a bit more light on where to seek the missing frame. It's a bit counter-intuitive because usually this only occurs in the last frame in a flow, one that lacks the Autoflow property to create a "next" frame for the overflow; it sounds as if this isn't the case for you. HTH Regards, Peter ___ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
Conditional Text used within a table with endnotes.
I don't have FrameMaker available right now, so I'm working from memory, but AFAIK, there's no Special > Endnote command in FrameMaker. Endnotes in FrameMaker are created by manually typing the notes somewhere in the current file, or a different file, in paragraphs that include the auto-numbering property. Usually end notes are placed at the end of the current file, or the separate file is placed at the end of a book. You can place the end notes after a table, if you like. The end note references are created by inserting cross-references to the notes with Special > Cross-Reference, using a cross-reference format that captures the auto-number. Showing or hiding the cross-reference reference numbers - in the conditional table rows, in this case - has no effect on the auto-numbered paragraphs that are the cross-reference sources. If you want the end notes to appear and disappear when their reference numbers are shown and hidden, conditionalize the notes. If you want the end notes to remain in place and renumber when the conditonalized reference numbers are hidden or shown, you'll need to invent a strategy. However, I'm wondering if you're using table footnotes - they appear after a table. The visibility of table footnotes should depend upon the visibility of the table footnote source content. If you're using table footnotes, are you saying that the table footnotes aren't showing/hiding in response to the showing/hiding of the source content, and they are not renumbering? HTH Regards, Peter ___ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Bill Swallow wrote: > I am having trouble following you. So the end notes are numbered and > the numbering does not update as some are conditioned out? Have you > tried saving the file and then generating/updating the book again? > > On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 3:11 PM, ? wrote: >> I have a table that consists of multiple rows. ?Each row of the table >> represents a specific condition. ? I currently have endnotes that >> appear at the end of the table. The first instance of each endnote is >> added via Special > Endnote, there after I insert a cross-reference if >> . It should be noted that I want each "letter" to represent a different >> occurance of the end noted item. The problem that I am having is that >> when I turn the certain conditions off i.e., the instance that >> "defined" the endnote may or may not be included in the resulting >> document with conditions applied. >> >> I am sure I could remedy this via a separate table for each condition >> but that would mean more work trying to maintain the multiple tables. >> If ?for example I need to add another colum in the future I would have >> to do it for each table. The other option I considered is making a >> separarate set of endnotes for each condition. ?The downside of that is >> that if all of the endnotes labeled "2" needed to be updated I would >> have to go through them manually and fix them. >> >> I have tried the update references but it does not allow for starting >> or adjusting the numbering for those end notes that are not needed due >> to the conditions eliminating them. >> >> Sample Table >> >> CondtionA 1 >> ConditionA 2 >> ConditionA 1 >> ConditionB 2 >> ConditionC 1 >> >> >> 1 This is endnote 1 >> 2 This is endnote 2 >> >> >> >> I get : >> >> ConditionB 2 >> >> >> >> 2 This is endnote 2 >> >> >> >> Not: >> >> >> ConditionB 1 ?(This was 2 but since 1 is not used as a condition it >> should be adjusted to 1 >> >> 1 This is endnote 1 (This is actually the text for 2 but reads 1 since >> it is the first condition. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> >> You are currently subscribed to Framers as techcommdood at gmail.com. >> >> Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. >> >> To unsubscribe send a blank email to >> framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com >> or visit >> http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/techcommdood%40gmail.com >> >> Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit >> http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >> > > > > -- > Bill Swallow > > Twitter: @techcommdood > Blog: http://techcommdood.com > LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/techcommdood > > Available for contract and full time opportunities. > > > STC Ideas: http://stcideas.ning.com > Join: http://stcideas.ning.com/?xgi=6X1vNGI > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as peter at knowhowpro.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/peter%40knowhowpro.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
how to prevent empty pages in a book? (part xxviii)
I don't have FrameMaker available now, but IIRC, there's a setting under Edit > Update that can turn off automatic checking of links when a file is opened. I can't remember if it's book-wide, document-wide, or application-wide, depending on the active context when you set it. Regards, Peter ___ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Les Smalley wrote: > Text insets and cross-references that are updated automatically (upon opening > the file),? even if no changes result, will also cause Frame to think the > file is modified.? Took me a while to figure that out, as it is very > confusing to simply open a file and have FM indicate that it's been modified. > > ? Les > > --- On Wed, 12/16/09, Stuart Rogers wrote: > Jakob Fix wrote: > >> Richard, I should have said this in my initial message, but yes I >> checked this and found the Pagination > Start: Anywhere for the first >> paragraph (which is actually the table itself). > > The table itself, the Table Title pgf, or the pgf containing the table > anchor?? All three have their own Start settings that you should check. > >> On the second page the only thing that's visible (if text symbols is >> toggled on) is the ? sign. Another observation for which I don't have >> an explanation is that the page numbers that are displayed in the >> status bar for each book component file are followed by an asterisk, >> like this: Pages: 180-181 *? Does that mean they've been modified? > > The asterisk means the file has been modified, although you may not have > modified the content yourself.? Something as simple as changing the zoom > counts as "modification".? Also, if you generate a TOC or cross-reference > from another file, FM inserts markers thereby also modifying the files. > >> Oh, and we're not using chapters at all (at least not knowingly). The >> numbering for chapters is "as is" -- I could change this to "continue >> numbering from previous file". > > Each file that is part of a book is commonly called a "chapter", whether > you title it as such or not.? The numbering properties don't affect > pagination, so don't worry about changing that. > > HTH > > -- > Stuart Rogers
"Anchoring" Callout Text to a Figure
If I understand the original poster's process, importing a graphic with an insertion point in text creates an anchored frame. This is why the graphic flows with the text. It shouldn't be necessary to group text lines or text frames with the graphic in the anchored frame, for the callouts to move with the anchored frame; the callouts just need to inside the anchored frame. The best way to assure that they are is to be sure that the mouse pointer is inside the boundary of the anchored frame when you drag the callout, then release the mouse. To select the text frame callout, press Ctrl when you point the mouse over the text frame; this changes the cursor to a graphic pointer. When the text frame is selected, you can release Ctrl and just drag the callout inside the anchored frame boundary. You can position the callouts within the anchored frame by dragging, or by selecting and using the arrow keys to move by one pixel per key press, or use Shift+arrow keys to move by five pixels. HTH Regards, Peter ___ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 3:44 PM, David Spreadbury wrote: > You select the graphic frame, then press Ctrl+A (Select All), then Graphics >> Group from the FrameMaker menu bar. Now everything is one piece. If you > need to change a callout, you will need to ungroup, edit, then regroup the > entities in the graphic frame. > > David Spreadbury > Sr. Technical Writer > > > -Original Message- > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of > jdeland1 at comcast.net > Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 3:36 PM > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: "Anchoring" Callout Text to a Figure > > OK, noob alert. What is the preferred way of creating text callouts so that > they are anchored to a figure, i.e., if the figure is moved down or up a few > lines, the callouts move with it? > > I import a graphic by reference. I create text in a text frame selected from > the Graphics Toolbar, and position it. I then add a line return above it, > and of course the graphic moves down but the callout stays "floating" in its > original position. > > FM 9 on XP Pro SP3
"Anchoring" Callout Text to a Figure
Richard: Good point about enlarging the anchored frame around the graphic, in order to make room for the callouts. Also, good point about turning ON View > Borders, and View > Text Symbols; it's always a good idea to see these useful "infrastructure tools" while working in documents, and, they don't appear in printed or PDF'd documents. Regards, Peter ___ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Combs, Richard wrote: > David Spreadbury wrote: > >> Not to beat this horse much further into the ground, but why would I > place >> a callout to an item in a graphic outside the frame containing the > graphic? >> >> Obviously, if I place the callout outside the frame containing the >> illustration, there is not binding of the callouts and the > illustration. If >> I place the callouts inside the graphic frame containing the > illustration I >> can then bind them together as one object, after grouping. Then I > don't >> care what happens outside the graphic frame, everything in the frame > stays >> together. > > The OP _did_ preface the question with "noob alert." Someone not > familiar with FM may not realize that FM automatically created an > anchored frame to hold the imported graphic, or the difference between > an anchored frame and a frame simply sitting on the page (especially if > that person works with View > Borders and View > Symbols turned off). > > So, jdeland1, you may want to take a look at the info about anchored > frames in the help/manual. An anchored frame can contain many things -- > multiple imported graphics, FM graphics, text lines, text frames. The > anchored frame moves with the pgf in which it's anchored (well, that > depends on its anchoring position...), but all its contents remain in > the relative positions in which you put them. > > So you simply need to resize the anchored frame containing the imported > graphic to make room for the callout, and then put the text frame > containing the callout into the anchored frame. > > HTH! > > Richard G. Combs > Senior Technical Writer > Polycom, Inc. > richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom > 303-223-5111 > -- > rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom > 303-777-0436 > -- > > > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as peter at knowhowpro.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/peter%40knowhowpro.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
TCS2 Distiller license problem
I'm really scared. If "cud" can't figure this out, what about mere FrameMaker mortals? Regards, Peter ___ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
"Anchoring" Callout Text to a Figure
Hi, Jack: On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 7:01 PM, Jack DeLand wrote: > Well, in my case, this is an example of an FM noob expecting a behavior > learned in other tools to work in FM. ?If one can place objects on a > virtual page through whatever means, why not be able to select them all > and easily group them together? ? It works in X, it works in Y, so ... > why should I have to put things inside a certain dotted line to make it > work? There are at least three problems when learning something new that has some similarity to something you already have experience in: * When to stop expecting that past experience with x will work the same way in y * When to start expecting that you're moving past the complete novice stage * When to apply the Serenity Prayer "...the wisdom to know the difference." > I really like FrameMaker, but there are many "intuitive" things that > just aren't so to someone starting out. ?That's why I read the Help, > open some books, and ask people on this list. Good plan, good attitude! The more information you can provide when asking a question, the more useful the answers will likely be the first time around. Usually this includes what operating system, what version of FrameMaker (in Help > About FrameMaker, there's a number like 9.something followed by p something; all of this comprises the version number.) Since you mentioned that your expectations from working with "X," perhaps it would help to name X; some of us may have experience with X, and may have some painfully-learned experience that can help you make the transition to FrameMaker. > Thanks to all. Ask anytime. HTH Regards, Peter ___ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
Footnote Out of Sequence
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Pinkham, Jim wrote: >> I have a series of footnotes associated with tables on the same page. >> The first and second are normal. The third references the same footnote >> as the second. Because the precedent is not to add an identical footnote >> and call it 3, this is accomplished by a cross-reference to the third >> footnote. However, the next footnote should be footnote 3, and the >> numbering instead reverts to 1. My fiddling with Format - Document - >> Numbering and the footnote tab is, thus far, to no avail. >> >> Here's what my section of this page looks like: >> >> http://www.yourfilelink.com/get.php?fid=484457. (Beware the big download >> button and look instead for the small "Proceed to file download page" >> just above it.) >> What to do? >> >> Jim >> >> BTW, I'm also open to suggestions for a better way to share a file but >> not attach it. >> ___ Hi, Jim: If I understand your situation correctly, I believe multiple references to the same footnote should use the same reference number in the main text or table cell text. Using this model, your second reference to footnote 2 should also display 2, so you may want to change your approach and use the cross-reference technique to capture the number 2 from the second footnote, rather than faking an increment to 3. If a new footnote reference is inserted before footnote 1 or 2, they'll increment correctly; the cross-reference to multiple instances of 2 may require a cross-reference update action, but otherwise, as any cross-reference, these are self-maintaining. HTH Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
Footnote Out of Sequence
Hi, Jim: On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Pinkham, Jim wrote: > Hi, Peter -- > > Thanks for taking this on. The sequence is 1,2,2,1. The first three are > fine. The second 2 is indeed accomplished by the cross-reference > technique. The only thing I had expected, based on the marked-up manual > I'm revising, was that the final footnote would be a 3, not a 1. Based > on Art's comment, the 1 is apparently what should be expected because it > is a new table. If there's another way to get to 3 for the final note, > in addition to the approach Art suggested, I'd be interested to learn > about it and consider going that route. Unless it's possible to fake the two tables as a single table, I'm out of ideas. Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
My document "properties" in template turns sideheads on for several files where it is unwanted
Hi, Baruch: Search Google for "fluidview framemaker" without quotes. HTH Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Baruch Brodersen wrote: > Richard, > > Interesting. Amazing really. > > I use Rick Quattro's ImportFormatsSpecial plug-in which splits out Document > Properties into these constituent parts: Volume number, chapter numbering, > page numbering, paragraph numbering, text options, change bars, footnote > props. & num., table footnote props. & num., marker type names, PDF > properties, and view options. > > For a screenshot go here: > http://www.frameexpert.com/plugins/importformatsspecial/index.htm > > When I select and import all of these, I observe no effect on column layout, > one column or two column, with or without sideheads. > > However, when I look at the file's underlying MIF syntax I did find > lurking in the Document Properties section. Changing > the tag to had no visible effect on the document. The > MIF Reference Online Manual (FM 7.0) I have does not document this tag, so I > am at a loss as to what it does. > > Baruch > > > -Original Message- > From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.combs at Polycom.com] > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 5:47 PM > To: Baruch Brodersen; Andersen, Verner Engell VEA; > framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: My document "properties" in template turns sideheads on for > severalfiles where it is unwanted > > Baruch Brodersen wrote: > >> My test showed no effect on column layout (i.e., sideheads) by > importing >> any >> or all Document Properties formats. Importing Page Layouts however, > did. > > Column layout and room for side heads are two different issues. > > I did some testing, too. I opened an index file, which has a two-column > layout with no room for side heads. I selected File > Import > Formats. > In the dialog, I made sure Document Properties was the only item > selected, and then I imported from a chapter file, which has a > one-column layout with room for side heads. > > The index file retained its two-column layout, but room for side heads > became turned on. Interestingly, the master pages were unchanged -- > their text frames still did not have room for side heads. But the main > body flow did, confirming that room for side heads is a flow property, > not a text frame property. > > I reverted to saved and repeated the experiment, this time importing > only Page Layouts. Except for the first page (which uses a custom > master page unique to my index files), the index file lost its > two-column layout. But room for side heads did _not_ turn on. The > default master pages were replaced by the single-column ones from the > chapter file, and they had room for side heads turned on. But the main > body flow did not. > > Richard > > > Richard G. Combs > Senior Technical Writer > Polycom, Inc. > richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom > 303-223-5111 > -- > rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom > 303-777-0436 > -- > > > > >
S-L-O-W cursor movement in FrameMaker 9
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Art Campbell wrote: > I was able to get something like this to happen this weekend, too, and Sounds like you should give FM the weekend off to recharge. Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
Getting earlier version of FM
Hi, Christopher: On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Brewster, Christopher C wrote: > I've been a sporadic user of Framemaker but trying to learn more about > it in case a job pops up that needs it. I have version 8 as part of the > Adobe Technical Communication Suite. Well, a job did pop up, but it > needs version 6 + SGML. Since I'm a licensed user, is it possible to get > an earlier version? Thanks... > > Christopher C. Brewster Multimedia Design Engineer > ___ > Technical Documents and Training|Lockheed Martin MS2 > christopher.c.brewster at lmco.com | 651-456-4597 Eagan Hi, from bleak warm soggy Minneapolis! I'm not clear on what you really are looking for. If your employer is Lockheed Martin, they should provide the FM 6.x +SGML for you to work on their projects. If this project is a freelance project for another client, then they may expect you to have the software. As Art notes, the SGML smarts are built into FM 7.x and later. The Developer's Guide PDF in the installation has the info you need, though it's not a tutorial approach. The structured application and files you create are very likely convertable to FM6 + SGML, by saving as Maker Interchange Format (MIF). I don't believe there's any different structured functionality or features in FM 7.x or later, from FM 6 + SGML. However I believe there were changes to the programming language in the SDK (Software Development Kit) that requires rewriting the add-on tools you'd create with the SDK. Your status as a registered owner of a FM release has no bearing on whether you can buy a licensed copy of an older release from Adobe or other authorized reseller - it all depends on whether there's any stock. You can buy a used copy from a licensed owner; you'll need to vet the seller and the license to be sure it's not a fake or stolen license, and the seller should fill out an Adobe transfer of ownership form, so you can register your purchase legally. In addition, you'll want to verify that the disks are complete and usable, because replacements are scarce. There's an Adobe User-to-User Structured FrameMaker forum you may want to look into for more focused assistance. You'll probably get more useful responses to your questions if you provide some context on your work situation . For example, are you expected to be developing or refining structured FM templates? Or, will mature templates be provided for you, and you'll only need to use them to create or maintain content with them? HTH Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
Numbering question
Look up autonumber in FM Help. The most pertinent topic is: Using multiple counters in an autonumber format but most of the topics are relevant. In File > New > Explore Standard Templates, the outline templates are examples of different numbering styles. Choose Show Sample for each outline template to display examples of the numbering. With the Paragraph Designer open to the Numbering properties pane, move your insertion pointer through the example paragraphs, and observe the paragraph tag name and its Autonumber format to see the formats and their results. HTH Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
converting email addresses to hyperlink
On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 4:44 AM, Avraham Makeler wrote: > Ok, I typed those things in the Command and Syntax fields. > > Now where is the OK (or Set) button ...? > > (I tried clicking on *Make View-Only *and it locked up my book. Then it neda > frantic call to a friend to get myself unlocked...) Searching for view-only in Help would also work. HTH ____ Regards, Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
Greater Than Or Equal To symbol in Frame 8 on XP pro
Hi, Brian: On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 3:37 PM, wrote: > All, > > I have been searching for how to insert a greater than or equal to symbol (a > less than or equal to symbol would be useful, too) into my document. I am > using Arial font, if that help. > > According to the User Guide that came with the application, I should be able > to do this by pressing ctrl+q, 3. * Be sure you press Ctrl and hold it down while you tap lowercase q * Then let go both keys * Do NOT touch the comma * Then tap 3 on the top row of keys (not on the number pad and not F3) > It doesn't work. I have also searched the character sets pdf that is loaded > with the application. I have searched Google. I can't seem to get it to work. > > Any tips? > > Thanks, > > Brian > _______ HTH Regards, Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
pilcrow before tag name in character catalog
Hi, Milan: It is possible to use the pilcrow character in a FM format tag name. Perhaps the document's creator used this as a convention. To verify this, select some text tagged with this format and open the Character Designer to see if the pilcrow appears in the Character Tag text box. On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Milan Davidovic wrote: > (I tried Google for the answer to this one, but with no luck; if you > know how to make the answer appear, I'd be happy to know how too... ) > > I thought that a pilcrow appearing before the tag name in character > catalog meant that the tag in question was used in a paragraph format, > but I can't seem to make one appear there myself. > > Am I interpreting the pilcrow correctly? Might there be some reason > why I can't get one to appear there myself? I made the para format, > incorporated a char format, saved, closed the doc and Frame itself and > reopened, but nothing new in the catalog. > > Many thanks. > > -- > Milan Davidovic HTH Regards, Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
Easiest way to create a new book from a template (unstructured FM8)
Good Morning, Does anyone know of a source of Book templates (free) that a newbie might have access to, for study? TIA -peter --- On Mon, 1/12/09, David Spreadbury wrote: > From: David Spreadbury > Subject: Re: Easiest way to create a new book from a template (unstructured > FM8) > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com, "Andersen, Verner Engell VEA" > > Date: Monday, January 12, 2009, 6:49 AM > Verner, > You should be able to do a File > Save Book As, renaming > the book file. This should rename your generated files to > match the book filename. > > --- On Mon, 1/12/09, Andersen, Verner Engell VEA > wrote: > > From: Andersen, Verner Engell VEA > > Subject: Easiest way to create a new book from a template > (unstructured FM8) > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Date: Monday, January 12, 2009, 2:42 AM > > My FM template contains all formats in the book. When I > create a new > book I take a chapter file at set it all up from there: > > Add front page, toc, chapters, glossary index and rear > page. All set up > by using specific headings to call the correct master > pages. I set up > the page and chapter numbering from the book and set up the > Table of > Contents from the "Set up Table of Contents > menu". > > Now a Documentation group is going to use my template. They > are all new > to Framemaker. Can I set up a "dummy book" that > they just copy to > their > working directory? I see that I can rename files from > within the book > and get links working but I cannot rename the book file > itself. > > Is there an easy way to get the book file renamed and get > the generated > files like TOC, Index and Glossary working without having > to set them up > from scratch again? > > Do you have any other good ideas on how to optimize a > template for group > usage. > > > > > Med venlig hilsen - Best regards > Verner Andersen > Technical Writer > > Radiometer Medical ApS > Phone +45 3827 3612 > Fax +45 3827 2727 > verner.andersen at radiometer.dk > > > > > Radiometer Medical ApS > Akandevej 21 > 2700 Bronshoj > Denmark > Phone: +45 38 27 38 27 > CVR: 27 50 91 85 > > > > Please be advised that this email may contain confidential > information. > If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, > copy or > re-transmit this email. If you have received this email in > error, > please notify us by email by replying to the sender and by > telephone > (call us collect at +1 202-828-0850) and delete this > message and any > attachments. Thank you in advance for your cooperation and > assistance. > > In addition, Danaher and its subsidiaries disclaim that the > content of > this email constitutes an offer to enter into, or the > acceptance of, > any > contract or agreement or any amendment thereto; provided > that the > foregoing disclaimer does not invalidate the binding effect > of any > digital or other electronic reproduction of a manual > signature that is > included in any attachment to this email. > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as > dspreadb at yahoo.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dspreadb%40yahoo.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. > Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as > neat_gent at yahoo.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/neat_gent%40yahoo.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. > Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Easiest way to create a new book from a template (unstructuredFM8)
Thank you for the quick response. (I have learned so much, as a result of monitoring this List.) - Peter --- On Mon, 1/12/09, Phil Heron wrote: > From: Phil Heron > Subject: RE: Easiest way to create a new book from a template > (unstructuredFM8) > To: "framers" > Cc: neat_gent at yahoo.com > Date: Monday, January 12, 2009, 7:31 AM > Peter, > > Try the Frame Template Packs. > > Although designed for Frame 5.5, they can be used just as > well with more up-to-date versions of FrameMaker. > > You can get the template packs from: > > http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/tempseries/ > > Phil Heron > > > -Original Message- > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of > Peter Courlis > Sent: 12 January 2009 12:29 > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com; Andersen, Verner Engell > VEA; dspreadb at yahoo.com > Subject: Re: Easiest way to create a new book from a > template (unstructured FM8) > > Good Morning, > > Does anyone know of a source of Book templates (free) > that a newbie might have access to, for study? > > TIA > > -peter > > > --- On Mon, 1/12/09, David Spreadbury > wrote: > > > From: David Spreadbury > > Subject: Re: Easiest way to create a new book from a > template (unstructured FM8) > > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com, "Andersen, > Verner Engell VEA" > > > Date: Monday, January 12, 2009, 6:49 AM > > Verner, > > You should be able to do a File > Save Book As, > renaming > > the book file. This should rename your generated files > to > > match the book filename. > > > > --- On Mon, 1/12/09, Andersen, Verner Engell VEA > > wrote: > > > > From: Andersen, Verner Engell VEA > > > > Subject: Easiest way to create a new book from a > template > > (unstructured FM8) > > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > > Date: Monday, January 12, 2009, 2:42 AM > > > > My FM template contains all formats in the book. When > I > > create a new > > book I take a chapter file at set it all up from > there: > > > > Add front page, toc, chapters, glossary index and rear > > page. All set up > > by using specific headings to call the correct master > > pages. I set up > > the page and chapter numbering from the book and set > up the > > Table of > > Contents from the "Set up Table of Contents > > menu". > > > > Now a Documentation group is going to use my template. > They > > are all new > > to Framemaker. Can I set up a "dummy book" > that > > they just copy to > > their > > working directory? I see that I can rename files from > > within the book > > and get links working but I cannot rename the book > file > > itself. > > > > Is there an easy way to get the book file renamed and > get > > the generated > > files like TOC, Index and Glossary working without > having > > to set them up > > from scratch again? > > > > Do you have any other good ideas on how to optimize a > > template for group > > usage. > > > > > > > > > > Med venlig hilsen - Best regards > > Verner Andersen > > Technical Writer > > > > Radiometer Medical ApS > > Phone +45 3827 3612 > > Fax +45 3827 2727 > > verner.andersen at radiometer.dk > > > > > > > > > > > Radiometer Medical ApS > > Akandevej 21 > > 2700 Bronshoj > > Denmark > > Phone: +45 38 27 38 27 > > CVR: 27 50 91 85 > > > > > > > > > Please be advised that this email may contain > confidential > > information. > > If you are not the intended recipient, please do not > read, > > copy or > > re-transmit this email. If you have received this > email in > > error, > > please notify us by email by replying to the sender > and by > > telephone > > (call us collect at +1 202-828-0850) and delete this > > message and any > > attachments. Thank you in advance for your > cooperation and > > assistance. > > > > In addition, Danaher and its subsidiaries disclaim > that the > > content of > > this email constitutes an offer to enter into, or the > > acceptance of, > > any > > contract or agreement or any amendment thereto; > provided > > that the > > foregoing disclaimer do
Recent file list?
Hi, Lea: You asked: > I maintain four different operation manuals and occasionally work on more > than one of them at a time. Is there a way to increase the number of recent > files shown at the bottom of the Files drop-down menu? Have you considered adding the files to a new book file? You can open one or multiple selected files from a book window. Another option is to create a folder of shortcuts for these files and place it on the desktop or wherever it's most convenient to find, then open the file(s) with the shortcut(s). HTH Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
Text Insets Appear In TOC
Hi, Joseph: Is there a compelling reason NOT to tag non-feature H1s with a name like H1NonF, and extract only regular H1s for the TOC? You can create a book file for all the non-feature documents and use find/replace to replace all H1 with H1NonF in one pass, by: * Make secure backups of all files involved. * Then open and save all the files you'll be working with, so that any changes can be reverted with File > Revert, or, from the book window, press Shift+File > Close All Files in Book, and click No (don't save) for each, then close the book file with no save, and start over. Alternatively, with no book file selected, press Shift+File > Close All Open Files, and click No for all. * From the book window, use Shift+File > Open All Files in Book (they open minimized), so that any changes won't be saved until you explicitly save the changed files, or close all and reopen and try again. * In a file that has non-feature H1s, with the insertion point in a H1 paragraph, create and apply the H1NonF paragraph format. * Use Edit > Copy Special > Paragraph Format to place the H1NonF on the clilpboard. * Use Edit > Find > Paragraph Tag > H1; whole word only (to avoid picking up H1something) to find a H1 paragraph. Choose by Pasting from the Replace pop-up menu. * Click Replace, then Find Next. Do a few like this to verify that it works the way you want. When you're satisfied, select Document or Book and click Replace All. The "Not Undoable" message is correct, but I've outlined the open-all-files / close-all-files-without-saving method above to revert, if necessary. HTH Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
Off List
Howard said: "let's make sure it deals with the use of FrameMaker" Gosh, I like that! -pc --- On Sun, 1/25/09, Howard Rauch wrote: > From: Howard Rauch > Subject: Off List > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Date: Sunday, January 25, 2009, 9:36 AM > One of the qualities of this list that I have always > considered important was that it was devoted to the best > ways for using?FrameMaker whether for solving problems or > evaluating its use.?I have subscribed to other lists and > discontinued them because so many of the participants were > pushing their own personal agendas (I call them > "whiners") as opposed to the purpose of the list. > > I have personally noted that a few have been pursuing the > green agenda as of late (myself included) whether pro-green > or anti-green. The questionnaire about printing user manuals > itself promoted?neither agenda, but (1) it has promoted a > good deal of controversial responses on both sides of the > green issue and (2) it was not really a FrameMaker issue. > > My point is this: When any of us submit anything to the > FrameMaker list, let's make sure it deals with the use > of FrameMaker and not with personal issues. > > Howard Rauch > > Technology Transfer, Inc. > "Linking Creators and Users of Technology" > 933 North 18th Street > Manitowoc WI 54220 > Office: 920-682-1528 > Cell: 920-629-0080 > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as > neat_gent at yahoo.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/neat_gent%40yahoo.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. > Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Outline
Here's a method that nobody's mentioned yet. It's not complete or perfect, but it may be useful: * Create a TOC that extracts all the heading paragraph formats that you want in an outline. Be sure to check Make Hypertext Links. The TOC can be for a single document or a book. * Modify the *TOC paragraph formats to indent the way you want. * Format the TOC page to a narrow column, and a height that's readable when zoomed to full-height on your screen. * Set the zoom to Fit Page to Text Frame. * Arrange your screen with the narrow outline frame next to the document page frame. * Use Frame's Ctrl+Alt+Click on a heading in the TOC to move the insertion point to that heading, so you can edit at that location. * Regenerate the TOC NOTES: - To make the links in the TOC active with a single click, instead of with Ctrl+Alt+Click: tap Escape, tap Shift+F, tap k. The same sequence restores editabiity. - To reuse the outline TOC, save it to a new name. This is handy if you've moved stuff and then need to restore the original order. - Save the "real" TOC with a new name, and save a copy of the narrow outline TOC to a new name. When you want to generate the real TOC, close the outline TOC and delete or rename it, then open the real TOC, save it to the correct name, and generate. HTH Regards, Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
Soliciting hardware recommendations
Hi, Donna: You can postpone buying Windows by installing Windows 7 Release Candidate 1 public beta. I'm using this with Fusion 2 and TCS2 on a 2.4gHz MacBook Pro running OS X 10.5.7 (latest update to "Leopard") No significant problems in FM 9.x and Acrobat 9.x in the TCS2. Initially I had problems with screen rewriting. Mostly this was due to setting the Fusion memory amount higher than needed (1.0 GB seems sufficient), and also not having enough system RAM; I had 3 GB, which left only 2 GB for the Mac OS. Replacing my 1 GB RAM chip with a 2 GB chip from Other World Computing for around $30, gave back 3 GB for for Mac OS X, and retained 1 GB for Fusion 2. Jenny: you might want to look at Google's Calendar. HTH Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Jenny Greenleaf wrote: > I am running TCS in VMWare Fusion on a 2.8 GHz Mac. It works great. > Rock solid. Crashes less than most pure Windows machines I've used. In > fact, I don't think Windows has ever crashed. Frame has a few times, > but the patches fixed that. > > You can try most of this before making a commitment. You can download > a 30-day trial of Fusion and obtain a 30-day trial of TCS (DVD). You > do have to buy a Windows XP license. I just bought one at Fry's. The > process to create a VM and load Windows is pretty simple. > > I work on-site at my client's. I bring in my laptop, hook up to the > client's network. It was a bit of a hassle configuring printers, but > other than that I haven't had any problems. ?I connect to shared > drives, point my Mac Mail client at their Exchange server. I don't > have great calendaring ability, but I don't want to buy Office for > Windows, and I don't want to mess with Entourage. > > Jenny > > > > On Jul 14, 2009, at 9:54 AM, D L Reynolds wrote: > >> First of all, you folks are the best. Within minutes of posting, I >> was getting helpful responses. >> >> Some of you have suggested I run Windows on my beloved Mac. I've been >> hesitant to do that, fearful that it might be buggy or cranky in some >> way. From what I'm hearing, that isn't the case. So, one last >> question -- >> >> Are any of you running the Adobe Technical Communications Suite on a >> Mac > VMWare Fusion > Windows XP? I'd love to go this route if it's >> reliable. And if I get reports that TCS is stable in this >> environment, the Windows box is heading for the dumpster. (For the >> record, I'm still running FM8 and will be for the foreseeable future.) >> >> Again, most sincere thanks to all of you. You are amazing! >> >> ? ?--Donna Reynolds >> ___
OT: Heading levels in a UG
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 7:31 AM, Lin Sims wrote: > On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 3:25 AM, Evanth, > Henrik wrote: >> Hi All >> >> I have an off-topic question that may or may not interest you. >> >> We are having a discussion at the office regarding the maximum levels of >> heading that a User guide/User manual can/should contain. Do you know of any >> best practice rules that define how deep a publication should/could be. >> Personally I think that 6 levels is too deep for a user, but that is just a >> personal preference that I cannot back up with "evidence". >> >> Heading 1 >> ? Heading 2 >> ? ? ?Heading 3 >> ? ? ? ? Heading 4 >> ? ? ? ? ? ?Heading 5 >> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Heading 6 >> >> Insights, comments or instructions are highly appreciated. > > I attended an Edward Tufte seminar a number of years ago. He does book > signings at these, and while he was signing my copies he asked my > profession. When I said "technical writer", his response was "No more > than 3 levels of headings." > > -- > Lin Sims > ___ Art Campbell says it this way: "I agree, four is as many as you need (and, I believe the most I've ever seen in a published book) -- if you think you need more, it may be because of an organizational problem." I guess Tufte didn't verbally indicate "*" and "" with his comment. His methods of providing multiple layers of information - sparklines, common measurement references across graphics that vary in scale, and various graphic schemes that indicate data and information relationships - present much of the additional levels of information, without additional heading levels. IOW, "organizational problem" solutions. Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
OT: List of files w/i a directory
* Start > Run > command to open a DOS window and keep it open At the prompt, type "help dir" (without quotes) * Search with Google for directory print list utilities, some free and some shareware. HTH Regards, Peter ______ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Paul Kent wrote: > I'm getting ready to send off a CD to my client's customer and have been > asked to provide a list of files on the CD. > > I've got a vague recollection of a DOS command that would list all of the > files in a directory and it's subdirectories and pipe them to a txt file, but > its been err, well, a bit longer than a week or two since I've used that > command. > > I'm thinking it's something like > > > Dir *.* >list.txt > > That command would do a directory of everything in the folder and it's > subdirectories and pipe them to a txt file. > > Can someone help me with the correct syntax for the DOS command or an easier > way to do this with the magic of Windows (XP and Office 2003 in case that > makes a difference)? > > Plz reply directly as I'm on digest and kind of need to get crackin on this > today if at all possible. > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > J. Paul Kent > 206-383-0539 > ___
Is FM8 --> FM9 worth the money?
Check the What's New section of the FM9 PDF user manual Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 10:08 PM, Writer wrote: > If you're using it to author in DITA, then I would say yes. If you're > authoring in unstructured, I would say meh. > > Nadine > > Hedley Finger wrote: >> Does anyone with /extensive experience/ with FrameMaker 9 think it is >> worth upgrading from FM8? ?I downloaded the trial and played with it a >> bit and like the new menus. ?But was any substantially or even slightly >> useful functionality added that makes it must have?
cross book cross-references
Regarding cross-references that span across books. BACKGROUND I reviewed framer archives and I'm able to create functioning cross-references in the resulting PDF files. For example, a cross-reference in myBook1.pdf can find its target inside of myBook2.pdf. PROBLEM But... this only works when generating the PDFs from FrameMaker. Are there any WebWorks Automap users who use this feature? When I generate the PDFs with Automap, the cross-references attempt to find their targets in the individual chapter files instead of in the generated book file. For example, a cross reference in myBook1.pdf attempts to find its target inside myChapter2.pdf, which does not exist (because it is generated inside myBook2.pdf). Solutions? __ Peter Crimmin Documentation Manager NUANCE COMMUNICATIONS, INC. One Wayside Road Burlington MA 01803 m 617 308 4974 (preferred) h 617 924 5095 (at home in Boston)
OT: Cannot extract text from PDF
>> I have a PDF that was created using Mac OSX 10.3.9. It displays fine on my >> Windows XP SP3 machine, but I cannot extract the text and create a Word >> doc. When I try Save As, I get nothing produced except an error: >> >> >> >> Bad PDF; could not read page structure. > cannot find CMAP resource file> [33] If the PDF was made using Mac's Preview application, this could be the problem; check document info for Creator. If you get the same error when trying to Save As with all documents, the Acrobat installation may be corrupted. HTH Regards, Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
OT: Cannot extract text from PDF
Have you tried: * Copy/Paste * Printing to PDF from Acrobat Pro, then trying to extract text by Save As? HTH Regards, Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Shuttleworth, Roger wrote: > Thanks for your help. > > I can save other PDFs without a problem. > My Acrobat version is Acrobat Pro 7.1.0. > The Application was AppleWorks. The PDF Producer is Mac OSX 10.3.9 Quartz > PdfContext according to the Document Properties window. There seems to be > nothing else interesting in the metadata, and no security applied. > > Roger > > -Original Message- > From: knowhowpro at gmail.com [mailto:knowhowpro at gmail.com] On Behalf Of > Peter Gold > Sent: March 10, 2009 12:47 PM > To: Art Campbell > Cc: Shuttleworth, Roger; framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: OT: Cannot extract text from PDF > >>> I have ?a PDF that was created using Mac OSX 10.3.9. It displays fine on my >>> Windows XP SP3 machine, but I cannot extract the text and create a Word >>> doc. When I try Save As, I get nothing produced except an error: >>> >>> >>> >>> Bad PDF; could not read page structure. >> fonts: cannot find CMAP resource file> [33] > > If the PDF was made using Mac's Preview application, this could be the > problem; > check document info for Creator. > > If you get the same error when trying to Save As with all documents, > the Acrobat installation may be corrupted. >
[semi-OT] Anyone having problems with this morning's Acrobat and Reader patches?
Is it possible that the new releases use more memory, and are running into a memory hardware problem? Can you run a diagnostic on the RAM chips, or at least swap their positions and reseat them? Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Pinkham, Jim wrote: > It WAS a vain hope. For the moment, I can still open my AI and EPS files > in Illy 9, but not in CS 4 (Illy 14). The "not enough memory to open > illustration" error persists -- although at the moment I have Outlook > 2003, Frame 7p1, and Illustrator 9 open -- and am only using about 2 > percent of my CPU resources. > > Any ideas on what to do next? > --
Combining separate FM files in print out
Hi, Nadine: On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 8:31 AM, Writer wrote: > > I'm using FM 8 & 9. I have several small files (unstructured). I want to > print them to a PDF in a continuous flow, rather than having each file start > on a new page. > > For example, if the first file stops half a page down, the next file starts > on the second half of the page. You'll need to create a file that looks this way to print it this way. You can create such a file by importing the individual files as text insets into one "container" file. Look up text insets in FM Help. HTH Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
Using Framers to network for job-hunting?
Framers Seems like it is an appropriate time for a SpinOff [JOBS] list... This economic storm is going to be with us awhile, therefore, I suggest we'll share a lot of interest in a Spin Off List... peter --- On Fri, 3/20/09, Art Campbell wrote: > From: Art Campbell > Subject: Re: Using Framers to network for job-hunting? > To: "Framers" > Cc: vallipow at aol.com, "John Sgammato" > Date: Friday, March 20, 2009, 9:28 AM > I agree that it's an appropriate topic, but I'd > encourage people to > use [OT] or [JOB] prefixes in the subject line. And I'd > also draw the > line at posting if you're available rather than > offering a job, to > cut down on the volume of posts, but that's just me. > > We'll see if the list owners/moderator is paying > attention... Job > postings are prohibited on the TWRL list that this company > also owns > and operates, unless you provide some cash for an ad. > > Cheers, > Art > > Art Campbell >art.campbell at gmail.com > "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this > world beats a '52 > Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson > No > disclaimers apply. > >DoD 358 > > > > On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:08 AM, mulholland4 > wrote: > > Hello John and Valerie, > > Yes, I think this an appropriate place given the > exceptional economic > > circumstances. While we don't want this forum to > become a job site, it is > > perhaps the only common venue many of us have to > discuss our Frame related > > issues, especially for lone writers. So any useful > links or information > > regarding Framemaker and related writing jobs will be > appreciated by many. > > ?Good topic Valerie, thanks for bringing it up. > > Mulholland > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 7:06 AM, John Sgammato > wrote: > > > >> IMO it is perfectly appropriate. FrameMaker is > often a requirement for a > >> good job, and a job that does not require > FrameMaker may be a really bad fit > >> for a writer who has used FrameMaker for a long > time. > >> I Replied to All because I think this is a good > subject to discuss if > >> anyone feels differently. > >> > >> john > >> > >> > >> > >> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com on > behalf of Valerie Lipow > >> Sent: Fri 3/20/2009 1:02 AM > >> To: Framers > >> Subject: Using Framers to network for job-hunting? > >> > >> > >> > >> I don't know if this is appropriate or > effective. Would anyone care to > >> calibrate me offline? > >> > >> -- > >> Valerie Lipow > >> vallipow at gmail.com > >> ___ > >> > >> > >> You are currently subscribed to Framers as > jsgammato at imprivata.com. > >> > >> Send list messages to > framers at lists.frameusers.com. > >> > >> To unsubscribe send a blank email to > >> framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > >> or visit > >> > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jsgammato%40imprivata.com > >> > >> Send administrative questions to > listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > >> http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and > info. > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> > >> > >> You are currently subscribed to Framers as > mulholland4 at gmail.com. > >> > >> Send list messages to > framers at lists.frameusers.com. > >> > >> To unsubscribe send a blank email to > >> framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > >> or visit > >> > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/mulholland4%40gmail.com > >> > >> Send administrative questions to > listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > >> http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and > info. > >> > > ___ > > > > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as > art.campbell at gmail.com. > > > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > > > Send administrative questions to > listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and > info. > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as > neat_gent at yahoo.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/neat_gent%40yahoo.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. > Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Need to have larger fonts in dialog boxes and for menu items on the Solaris platform
Hi, Sharon: On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Sharon Veach wrote: > Hi: > > Second try, more platform information. > I am running Frame on a Solaris system on a GNOME desktop. ?The GNOME > desktop preferences fonts do not affect the font of anything in Frame - > not the menus, > not the default text size in the window, not the size of the initial > Frame menu box. > > How can I increase the font size of menu items and dialog box fonts from > within Frame? > > I can increase the font size where I type, but I am having difficulty > seeing > the fonts in dialog boxes. The File Open dialog box is particularly > tricky, since > it is the first one that comes up, and its font size is minute. > > In EPIC, you can pass the fonts to the application by running the > following command > in a shell: > > epic -font encoding:iso88591-family:helvetica-size:14 > > When I try that with Frame, the format of the font is not recognized: > > maker -font encoding:iso88591-family:helvetica-size:14 > > Frame returns the message: > **Warning: Cannot convert string > "encoding:iso88591-family:helvetica-size:16" to type FontStruct ** > > So, what is the magic format where a font encoding is readable by Frame, > and then Frame can turn it > into a FontStruct that Frame recognizes? > > Thanx for any pointers, > Sharon > ___ Look for the PDF or .fm document "Customizing Frame Products" in the onlinemanuals directory in your FM installation tree. It may be in the fminit directory. I believe that Unix FM is the only FM version that permits customizing the fonts in dialog boxes. I may be wrong on this - it may only customize fonts in catalog titles, like Character Format catalog and Paragraph Format catalog, and menu titles and options. Many unix FM properties are configurable via x-resources. I seem to recall that an x-resource can set fonts. Another approach is to lower your screen resolution to show less real estate at a larger size. HTH Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
Printing Structured View in Frame 8
Have you tried the scrolling-window capture feature in screen capture tools like SnagIt? I'm on my Mac now, so I can't try it myself. If you don't have SnagIt, you can download a trial copy, or you can search Google for free Windows screen-capture tools. HTH` Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Yves Barbion wrote: > Hi Tony > > I don't know whether you can print the structure view of a file in > FrameMaker. ?oXygen XML Editor, however, has a Tree Editor which is quite > similar to Frame's Structure View and you can either print this tree view of > an XML document or save it as a JPG image. > > So, if your file is an XML file, you can download and install a trial > version of oXygen XML Editor to print your tree view or you can send your > XML file to me and I will print it for you. > > Hope this helps (a bit). > > -- > Yves Barbion ? Managing Director ? Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor > www.scripto.nu ?? skype: yves.barbion ?? T: +32 494 12 01 89 > > > On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Tony Tasillo < > Tony.Tasillo at teexmail.tamu.edu> wrote: > >> Is there a way to print the structured view of a file in Frame 8? I would >> like to print this particular view to use as a sample of the structure for a >> meeting but want to be able print the entire document not just a few screen >> captures. >> >> Thank you, >> >> >> >> Tony Tasillo >> Project Specialist and >> Customer Service Relations Representative
Anyway/tool to update cross-ref defs easily
Hi, Kanti: * Depending on how you've defined the cross-reference formats to capture the compound chapter-page numbers, you may find that modifying the cross-reference formats and importing them across your books works. (Back-up all files before experimenting.) * markerworker is a free FM plug-in that might work for you. It's not been updated in a long time, so it may not work with FM 8 or 9. Find it at: http://www.freeframers.org/freeware/cud/ Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 8:44 AM, wrote: > Hello: > > I'm about to update templates to use simple, sequential page numbering, > rather than chapter-pagenum in our books. > > Of course, that's a number of definitional updates, one of which I so > dislike is the cross-ref formats. > > Is there any tool (such as IXgen for index markers) or tricak that will > let me see cross-ref formats more easily (other than MIF)??? > > Kanti M. Mann | Manager, Technical Publications > SeaChange International, Inc.
OT: Adobe TCS2--RoboHelp 8 integration with FrameMaker 9
Hello everybody, I just tried evaluating the Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and found that RoboHelp 8 in particular did not produce consistent results. I managed to corrupt every project I created only by continuously making changes in the style mappings from FM to RH and then regenerating. Sometimes the TOC would not generate at all. Has anyone been using RH8 and has anyone been able to get good results? If so what are you doing right? Yes I watched the tutorial Adobe produced on FM9 and RH8, which helped improve my results but it doesn't change the fact that RH8 seems unstable. Best, Peter
