Re: Can Word identify graphic file names?

2009-07-01 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
It depends on how the graphics were inserted. When you insert graphics 
in Word you have the option to link them to the source file. If they are 
inserted and linked (or just linked), than in all versions of Word until 
Word 2007 you could select the graphic and press SHIFT+F9 to reveal the 
field code including the path. If they are inserted in the doc (and not 
linked), than Word saved them in the doc itself so there is no path.

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Shmuel Wolfson
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052-763-7133


Carol J. Elkins wrote:
 I've been given a CD with over 1500 graphic files of all formats on 
 it. These graphics are used in a MSWord-formatted manual that I need 
 to convert to FrameMaker. Unlike FrameMaker, which can easily 
 generate a list of external files used and will also display the 
 filename of each referenced graphic, to my knowledge there is no way 
 to determine the filename of any graphic used in a Word doc.

 I can easily generate a thumbnail catalog of the graphic files on the 
 CD using Photoshop so that I can visually locate each photo in the 
 manual. But geez I so seriously do not want to have to do that. Does 
 anyone know a workaround in Word that will help me identify all of 
 these graphic files? A macro? I am not a Word guru so all help is appreciated.

 Carol

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Can Word identify graphic file names?

2009-07-01 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
It depends on how the graphics were inserted. When you insert graphics 
in Word you have the option to link them to the source file. If they are 
inserted and linked (or just linked), than in all versions of Word until 
Word 2007 you could select the graphic and press SHIFT+F9 to reveal the 
field code including the path. If they are inserted in the doc (and not 
linked), than Word saved them in the doc itself so there is no path.

-- 
Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
052-763-7133


Carol J. Elkins wrote:
> I've been given a CD with over 1500 graphic files of all formats on 
> it. These graphics are used in a MSWord-formatted manual that I need 
> to convert to FrameMaker. Unlike FrameMaker, which can easily 
> generate a list of external files used and will also display the 
> filename of each referenced graphic, to my knowledge there is no way 
> to determine the filename of any graphic used in a Word doc.
>
> I can easily generate a thumbnail catalog of the graphic files on the 
> CD using Photoshop so that I can visually locate each photo in the 
> manual. But geez I so seriously do not want to have to do that. Does 
> anyone know a workaround in Word that will help me identify all of 
> these graphic files? A macro? I am not a Word guru so all help is appreciated.
>
> Carol
>
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Can Word identify graphic file names?

2009-06-30 Thread Carol J. Elkins
I've been given a CD with over 1500 graphic files of all formats on 
it. These graphics are used in a MSWord-formatted manual that I need 
to convert to FrameMaker. Unlike FrameMaker, which can easily 
generate a list of external files used and will also display the 
filename of each referenced graphic, to my knowledge there is no way 
to determine the filename of any graphic used in a Word doc.

I can easily generate a thumbnail catalog of the graphic files on the 
CD using Photoshop so that I can visually locate each photo in the 
manual. But geez I so seriously do not want to have to do that. Does 
anyone know a workaround in Word that will help me identify all of 
these graphic files? A macro? I am not a Word guru so all help is appreciated.

Carol

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RE: Can Word identify graphic file names?

2009-06-30 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
I think there's a trick you can use if the Word doc is one of the new
Office 2007 docx formats. The docx document is a collection of files all
in xml. I think if you treat it as a zipped file you can get it to
extract itself into all of its components in sub-folders (graphics
included). Have a google around to find the trick - I ran across it on
some Tech Writing blog somewhere this spring.

Jeff 

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Subject: Can Word identify graphic file names?

I've been given a CD with over 1500 graphic files of all formats on it.
These graphics are used in a MSWord-formatted manual that I need to
convert to FrameMaker. Unlike FrameMaker, which can easily generate a
list of external files used and will also display the filename of each
referenced graphic, to my knowledge there is no way to determine the
filename of any graphic used in a Word doc.

I can easily generate a thumbnail catalog of the graphic files on the CD
using Photoshop so that I can visually locate each photo in the manual.
But geez I so seriously do not want to have to do that. Does anyone know
a workaround in Word that will help me identify all of these graphic
files? A macro? I am not a Word guru so all help is appreciated.

Carol

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Re: Can Word identify graphic file names?

2009-06-30 Thread Nancy Allison

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Re: RE: Can Word identify graphic file names?

2009-06-30 Thread Nancy Allison

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Fwd: Re: RE: Can Word identify graphic file names?

2009-06-30 Thread Nancy Allison
Sorry, sorry. Here it is in plain text.

Jeff suggested something that made me take a look at the html output. You get a 
folder with all your files if you save to html also, but the graphics are 
autonumbered image001.jpg, image002.jpg, etc. 

But, if you look in the htm file itself in Notepad, you can dig out the 
filenames. I made a test doc and imported an image called 
Yerkes_Inn_Salem_NY.jpg.

The line in the html file, saved from that .doc file, is

v:imagedata src=test_files/image001.jpg mce_src=test_files/image001.jpg 
o:title=Yerkes_Inn_Salem_NY/

I hope this helps!

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Re: Can Word identify graphic file names?

2009-06-30 Thread Carol J. Elkins
Thanks to the folks who suggested that I convert the Word docs to 
HTML to obtain the filenames for the graphics. If I remember, that 
was a trick useful when the original graphics are not available 
because saving to HTML causes Word to convert the graphics to gifs 
and jpgs.  But in doing so, the HTML then references the converted 
file's filename, not the filename of the graphic actually used in the 
Word doc. Having gifs and jpgs of the graphics doesn't help me much 
because I need to be able to use the .eps and .tif files given to me on the CD.

Is there something I should be doing to force Word to save the 
filename of the graphics? It doesn't seem to matter if I copy and 
paste a graphic or insert it by navigating to the file (sorta 
equivalent to Frame's importing by reference)--Word 2000 and Word 
2003 still convert the file when saving as HTML.

Carol

Save the file to html and then open it in Notepad.

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Re: Can Word identify graphic file names?

2009-06-30 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:26:07 -0600, Carol J. Elkins 
celk...@awrittenword.com wrote:

I've been given a CD with over 1500 graphic files of all formats on 
it. These graphics are used in a MSWord-formatted manual that I need 
to convert to FrameMaker. Unlike FrameMaker, which can easily 
generate a list of external files used and will also display the 
filename of each referenced graphic, to my knowledge there is no way 
to determine the filename of any graphic used in a Word doc.

I can easily generate a thumbnail catalog of the graphic files on the 
CD using Photoshop so that I can visually locate each photo in the 
manual. But geez I so seriously do not want to have to do that. Does 
anyone know a workaround in Word that will help me identify all of 
these graphic files? A macro? I am not a Word guru so all help is 
appreciated.

If Word knew the name of the graphic at import, that is, if
the image was imported from a file rather than pasted in,
Word should still have the original name.  Try saving the
Word file to RTF, then run Mif2Go's exwmf.exe utility,
which is in the free unlimited demo available at:
  http://www.omsys.com/dcl/download.htm

The User's Guide explains, in par. 29.6.2, Using the 
Mif2Go exwmf utility:
 Run the exwmf utility program included with Mif2Go on 
 the Word RTF file, by typing on a command line:
   exwmf filename.rtf
 This utility extracts from Word's RTF the internal WMF
 image that Word made for each imported graphic, and
 names it according to the original graphic name but 
 with a .wmf extension.

For bitmaps, WMF includes a BMP of the image, rather
than the original image format.  But that is what Word 
keeps.  Given the name, however, you may be able to
locate the original.

Another possibility is to show all Word field codes,
and see if any INCLUDEGRAPHIC fields show up by the 
images.

HTH!

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Re: Can Word identify graphic file names?

2009-06-30 Thread Richard Doll
Carol,

In reference to comments made by Nancy Allison and others

Easy!!! . . .  ??? . . .
0. convert the .doc file to .htm to .txt.
1. the  image001 . . . o.title=Yerkes_Inn_Salem_NY/ can be 
*programatically extracted* to an ASCII listfile.txt via a MSVisualBasic 
prgm.
2. the CD's Images (tif  eps) can be loaded into a single manual work 
folder.
3. an Adobe Photoshop CS3 script developed by Rick Quatro that is very 
successful, can convert all the .tifs to .eps files.
4. enquire of Rick, if he can script, for Frame image calls to all be 
changed to only call the cvt'd .eps image NAME.eps.

and . . . if any/all/some images are 4/color . . . you want .EPS!!!

best to all
dick doll

caveats - what happens to the numbers when  999

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Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 4:26 PM
Subject: Can Word identify graphic file names?


 I've been given a CD with over 1500 graphic files of all formats on
 it. These graphics are used in a MSWord-formatted manual that I need
 to convert to FrameMaker. Unlike FrameMaker, which can easily
 generate a list of external files used and will also display the
 filename of each referenced graphic, to my knowledge there is no way
 to determine the filename of any graphic used in a Word doc.

 I can easily generate a thumbnail catalog of the graphic files on the
 CD using Photoshop so that I can visually locate each photo in the
 manual. But geez I so seriously do not want to have to do that. Does
 anyone know a workaround in Word that will help me identify all of
 these graphic files? A macro? I am not a Word guru so all help is 
 appreciated.

 Carol

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Can Word identify graphic file names?

2009-06-30 Thread Carol J. Elkins
I've been given a CD with over 1500 graphic files of all formats on 
it. These graphics are used in a MSWord-formatted manual that I need 
to convert to FrameMaker. Unlike FrameMaker, which can easily 
generate a list of external files used and will also display the 
filename of each referenced graphic, to my knowledge there is no way 
to determine the filename of any graphic used in a Word doc.

I can easily generate a thumbnail catalog of the graphic files on the 
CD using Photoshop so that I can visually locate each photo in the 
manual. But geez I so seriously do not want to have to do that. Does 
anyone know a workaround in Word that will help me identify all of 
these graphic files? A macro? I am not a Word guru so all help is appreciated.

Carol

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Can Word identify graphic file names?

2009-06-30 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
I think there's a trick you can use if the Word doc is one of the new
Office 2007 docx formats. The docx document is a collection of files all
in xml. I think if you treat it as a zipped file you can get it to
extract itself into all of its components in sub-folders (graphics
included). Have a google around to find the trick - I ran across it on
some Tech Writing blog somewhere this spring.

Jeff 

-Original Message-
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[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Carol J.
Elkins
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 4:26 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Can Word identify graphic file names?

I've been given a CD with over 1500 graphic files of all formats on it.
These graphics are used in a MSWord-formatted manual that I need to
convert to FrameMaker. Unlike FrameMaker, which can easily generate a
list of external files used and will also display the filename of each
referenced graphic, to my knowledge there is no way to determine the
filename of any graphic used in a Word doc.

I can easily generate a thumbnail catalog of the graphic files on the CD
using Photoshop so that I can visually locate each photo in the manual.
But geez I so seriously do not want to have to do that. Does anyone know
a workaround in Word that will help me identify all of these graphic
files? A macro? I am not a Word guru so all help is appreciated.

Carol

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Can Word identify graphic file names?

2009-06-30 Thread Nancy Allison


Can Word identify graphic file names?

2009-06-30 Thread Nancy Allison


Fwd: Re: RE: Can Word identify graphic file names?

2009-06-30 Thread Nancy Allison
Sorry, sorry. Here it is in plain text.

Jeff suggested something that made me take a look at the html output. You get a 
folder with all your files if you save to html also, but the graphics are 
autonumbered image001.jpg, image002.jpg, etc. 

But, if you look in the htm file itself in Notepad, you can dig out the 
filenames. I made a test doc and imported an image called 
Yerkes_Inn_Salem_NY.jpg.

The line in the html file, saved from that .doc file, is



I hope this helps!

--Nancy


Can Word identify graphic file names?

2009-06-30 Thread Carol J. Elkins
Thanks to the folks who suggested that I convert the Word docs to 
HTML to obtain the filenames for the graphics. If I remember, that 
was a trick useful when the original graphics are not available 
because saving to HTML causes Word to convert the graphics to gifs 
and jpgs.  But in doing so, the HTML then references the converted 
file's filename, not the filename of the graphic actually used in the 
Word doc. Having gifs and jpgs of the graphics doesn't help me much 
because I need to be able to use the .eps and .tif files given to me on the CD.

Is there something I should be doing to force Word to save the 
filename of the graphics? It doesn't seem to matter if I copy and 
paste a graphic or insert it by navigating to the file (sorta 
equivalent to Frame's importing by reference)--Word 2000 and Word 
2003 still convert the file when saving as HTML.

Carol

>Save the file to html and then open it in Notepad.



Can Word identify graphic file names?

2009-06-30 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:26:07 -0600, "Carol J. Elkins" 
 wrote:

>I've been given a CD with over 1500 graphic files of all formats on 
>it. These graphics are used in a MSWord-formatted manual that I need 
>to convert to FrameMaker. Unlike FrameMaker, which can easily 
>generate a list of external files used and will also display the 
>filename of each referenced graphic, to my knowledge there is no way 
>to determine the filename of any graphic used in a Word doc.
>
>I can easily generate a thumbnail catalog of the graphic files on the 
>CD using Photoshop so that I can visually locate each photo in the 
>manual. But geez I so seriously do not want to have to do that. Does 
>anyone know a workaround in Word that will help me identify all of 
>these graphic files? A macro? I am not a Word guru so all help is 
>appreciated.

If Word knew the name of the graphic at import, that is, if
the image was imported from a file rather than pasted in,
Word should still have the original name.  Try saving the
Word file to RTF, then run Mif2Go's exwmf.exe utility,
which is in the free unlimited demo available at:
  http://www.omsys.com/dcl/download.htm

The User's Guide explains, in par. 29.6.2, "Using the 
Mif2Go exwmf utility":
> Run the exwmf utility program included with Mif2Go on 
> the Word RTF file, by typing on a command line:
>   exwmf filename.rtf
> This utility extracts from Word's RTF the internal WMF
> image that Word made for each imported graphic, and
> names it according to the original graphic name but 
> with a .wmf extension.

For bitmaps, WMF includes a BMP of the image, rather
than the original image format.  But that is what Word 
keeps.  Given the name, however, you may be able to
locate the original.

Another possibility is to show all Word field codes,
and see if any INCLUDEGRAPHIC fields show up by the 
images.

HTH!

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
http://www.omsys.com/


Can Word identify graphic file names?

2009-06-30 Thread Richard Doll
Carol,

In reference to comments made by Nancy Allison and others

Easy!!! . . .  ??? . . .
0. convert the ".doc" file to ".htm" to ".txt".
1. the < image001 . . . o.title="Yerkes_Inn_Salem_NY"/> can be 
*programatically extracted* to an ASCII "listfile.txt" via a MSVisualBasic 
prgm.
2. the CD's Images (tif & eps) can be loaded into a single "manual" work 
folder.
3. an "Adobe Photoshop CS3" script developed by Rick Quatro that is very 
successful, can convert all the ".tif"s to ".eps" files.
4. enquire of Rick, if he can script, for Frame "image calls" to all be 
changed to only call the cvt'd ".eps" image NAME.eps.

and . . . if any/all/some images are 4/color . . . you want ".EPS"!!!

best to all
dick doll

caveats - what happens to the numbers when > 999

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Carol J. Elkins" <celk...@awrittenword.com>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 4:26 PM
Subject: Can Word identify graphic file names?


> I've been given a CD with over 1500 graphic files of all formats on
> it. These graphics are used in a MSWord-formatted manual that I need
> to convert to FrameMaker. Unlike FrameMaker, which can easily
> generate a list of external files used and will also display the
> filename of each referenced graphic, to my knowledge there is no way
> to determine the filename of any graphic used in a Word doc.
>
> I can easily generate a thumbnail catalog of the graphic files on the
> CD using Photoshop so that I can visually locate each photo in the
> manual. But geez I so seriously do not want to have to do that. Does
> anyone know a workaround in Word that will help me identify all of
> these graphic files? A macro? I am not a Word guru so all help is 
> appreciated.
>
> Carol
>
> **
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> mailto:celkins at awrittenword.com
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