Re: Does anyones have an EDD for the Bible?

2007-06-20 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 23:56 + 19/6/07, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson wrote:

I think I have seen a Bible DTD for XML, but not an EDD...

Well, this would give you a flying start if you needed to work up an EDD, as 
FrameMaker will create an EDD from the DTD for you.

Am I over my head in this?

Probably not, but where Icelandic is concerned, I suspect that most of the rest 
of us are ;-) Hope someone can help.

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Re: Does anyones have an EDD for the Bible?

2007-06-20 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 03:56 -0500 20/6/07, Peter Gold wrote:

Is there any reason you can't just use two stone tablets and a chisel?G

Probably because you need the Finger of God, not a mere chisel.

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RE: Does anyones have an EDD for the Bible?

2007-06-20 Thread Daniel Doornbos
Now those comments show just how much you guys know about the Bible.
The 10 Commandments are in the Old Testament.
But Bodvar is working on the New Testament.
The NT writers used pen and paper, incidently.
Bibles, whether you are translating or formatting the pages, are
especially challenging work.
I don't have the FM skills Bodvar asked for but I do appreciate the work
has undertaken from a professional as well as a spiritual perspective.

Daniel

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At 03:56 -0500 20/6/07, Peter Gold wrote:

Is there any reason you can't just use two stone tablets and a 
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Probably because you need the Finger of God, not a mere chisel.

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RE: Does anyones have an EDD for the Bible?

2007-06-20 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 10:32 -0700 20/6/07, Daniel Doornbos wrote:

Now those comments show just how much you guys know about the Bible.
The 10 Commandments are in the Old Testament.
But Bodvar is working on the New Testament.

Ah... so that's what 'NT' stood for. I though it was a Windoze reference ;-)

The NT writers used pen and paper, incidently.

I'm disappointed: I always thought it was goat skin. Better for the goats, I 
guess.

Bibles, whether you are translating or formatting the pages, are
especially challenging work.

Don't doubt it.

I don't have the FM skills Bodvar asked for but I do appreciate the work
has undertaken from a professional as well as a spiritual perspective.

I expect we all do, Daniel.

-- 
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Re: Does anyones have an EDD for the Bible?

2007-06-20 Thread Peter Gold

If you want to see an ambitious project, browse through
http://www.saintjohnsbible.org/. In the public TV documentary, I
recall that it took a heck of a long time, a lot of gifted folks
working a lot of hours, days, years, and a bunch of bucks to produce
the original replica. Somewhere along the line it's been published to
pages, but I don't think they used an EDDG.

Good wishes and luck to Bodvar!

On 6/20/07, Daniel Doornbos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Now those comments show just how much you guys know about the Bible.
The 10 Commandments are in the Old Testament.
But Bodvar is working on the New Testament.
The NT writers used pen and paper, incidently.
Bibles, whether you are translating or formatting the pages, are
especially challenging work.
I don't have the FM skills Bodvar asked for but I do appreciate the work
has undertaken from a professional as well as a spiritual perspective.




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Re: Does anyones have an EDD for the Bible?

2007-06-20 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 12:55 -0500 20/6/07, Peter Gold wrote:

If you want to see an ambitious project, browse through 
http://www.saintjohnsbible.org/. In the public TV documentary, I recall that 
it took a heck of a long time, a lot of gifted folks working a lot of hours, 
days, years, and a bunch of bucks to produce the original replica. Somewhere 
along the line it's been published to pages, but I don't think they used an 
EDDG.

Absolutely true: I have a friend on the Wales team.

Of course, these guys don't use FrameMaker: if they did, they'd have finished 
years ago, but it wouldn't have looked quite so pretty.

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RE: Does anyones have an EDD for the Bible?

2007-06-20 Thread Daniel Doornbos
I think you are correct, Steve. Paper in those days was made of goat and
other skins. I guess papyrus from Egypt was too expensive. I wonder if
any of the technical material we write today will be remembered 2K years
from now...

Daniel


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At 10:32 -0700 20/6/07, Daniel Doornbos wrote:

Now those comments show just how much you guys know about the Bible. 
The 10 Commandments are in the Old Testament. But Bodvar is working on 
the New Testament.

Ah... so that's what 'NT' stood for. I though it was a Windoze reference
;-)

The NT writers used pen and paper, incidently.

I'm disappointed: I always thought it was goat skin. Better for the
goats, I guess.

Bibles, whether you are translating or formatting the pages, are 
especially challenging work.

Don't doubt it.

I don't have the FM skills Bodvar asked for but I do appreciate the 
work has undertaken from a professional as well as a spiritual 
perspective.

I expect we all do, Daniel.

-- 
Steve
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RE: Does anyones have an EDD for the Bible?

2007-06-20 Thread Charles Beck
*I* wonder if any of the technical material we write today will be
remember 2 *decades* from now...

;o)

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I think you are correct, Steve. Paper in those days was made of goat and
other skins. I guess papyrus from Egypt was too expensive. I wonder if
any of the technical material we write today will be remembered 2K years
from now...

Daniel


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At 10:32 -0700 20/6/07, Daniel Doornbos wrote:

Now those comments show just how much you guys know about the Bible. 
The 10 Commandments are in the Old Testament. But Bodvar is working on 
the New Testament.

Ah... so that's what 'NT' stood for. I though it was a Windoze reference
;-)

The NT writers used pen and paper, incidently.

I'm disappointed: I always thought it was goat skin. Better for the
goats, I guess.

Bibles, whether you are translating or formatting the pages, are 
especially challenging work.

Don't doubt it.

I don't have the FM skills Bodvar asked for but I do appreciate the 
work has undertaken from a professional as well as a spiritual 
perspective.

I expect we all do, Daniel.

-- 
Steve
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RE: Does anyones have an EDD for the Bible?

2007-06-20 Thread Lin Surasky
Actually, according to an historical film I saw as a child, there were
actually three tablets, but one fell off the mountain and was never
replaced 

Now THAT's an editing job! 

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 Lin Surasky wrote:
   
  I'm sorry. We're having a tool discussion on another 
 thread, and I'm 
  afraid that this stone/chisel suggestion is going to end up 
 as the top 
  choice!
  
  (Would it be better than RoboHelp for creating documentation?)
  ;-)
 
 I think this early PDF (Portable Decree Format) has been 
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Does anyones have an EDD for the Bible?

2007-06-20 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
I am about to undertake the task of preparing special issue NT plus
based on a new translation (Icelandic) of the Bible that is ready to
be printed. I will only be getting the files in PDF (hopefully no
ligatures) as the last changes were made at the layout company, in
Denmark, I think. Maybe I will be able to get them in HTML as the
local publishing company is backward engineering the the files from
PDF. Not that I did not tell them about XML or FrameMaker. I did so
two years ago.

Anyway, I think this project is a typical structured thing, and as I
have very little time (in my time off), I wonder whether someone has,
or knows of, a suitable EDD for such a task. I think I have seen a
Bible DTD for XML, but not an EDD. There are XML Schemas and several
special markup languages for this too (USFM, USFX, OSIS, etc.),
because of the limitations of DTD (and EDD). However, I think this
could be done, especially if quotation marks are just typed and not
relying on an element or an attribute (maybe attributes may be used
for opening and closing quotes, etc.).

Am I over my head in this?

Please respond on or off the list.

Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
Iceland



Does anyones have an EDD for the Bible?

2007-06-20 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 23:56 + 19/6/07, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson wrote:

>I think I have seen a Bible DTD for XML, but not an EDD...

Well, this would give you a flying start if you needed to work up an EDD, as 
FrameMaker will create an EDD from the DTD for you.

>Am I over my head in this?

Probably not, but where Icelandic is concerned, I suspect that most of the rest 
of us are ;-) Hope someone can help.

-- 
Steve



Does anyones have an EDD for the Bible?

2007-06-20 Thread Peter Gold
Is there any reason you can't just use two stone tablets and a chisel?

Regards,

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Does anyones have an EDD for the Bible?

2007-06-20 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 03:56 -0500 20/6/07, Peter Gold wrote:

>Is there any reason you can't just use two stone tablets and a chisel?

Probably because you need the Finger of God, not a mere chisel.

-- 
Steve



Does anyones have an EDD for the Bible?

2007-06-20 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
On 6/20/07, Peter Gold  wrote:
> Is there any reason you can't just use two stone tablets and a chisel?

I am afraid that more than two would be needed, and for two reasons:
1. Only the ten (or nine?) commandments fitted on the tablets;
2. I would probably break a few in the process.

> KnowHow ProServices
>

Well, shouldn't you KnowHow? ;-) (just could not stand it!)

Bodvar



Does anyones have an EDD for the Bible?

2007-06-20 Thread Daniel Doornbos
Now those comments show just how much you guys know about the Bible.
The 10 Commandments are in the Old Testament.
But Bodvar is working on the New Testament.
The NT writers used pen and paper, incidently.
Bibles, whether you are translating or formatting the pages, are
especially challenging work.
I don't have the FM skills Bodvar asked for but I do appreciate the work
has undertaken from a professional as well as a spiritual perspective.

Daniel

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At 03:56 -0500 20/6/07, Peter Gold wrote:

>Is there any reason you can't just use two stone tablets and a 
>chisel?

Probably because you need the Finger of God, not a mere chisel.

-- 
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Does anyones have an EDD for the Bible?

2007-06-20 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 10:32 -0700 20/6/07, Daniel Doornbos wrote:

>Now those comments show just how much you guys know about the Bible.
>The 10 Commandments are in the Old Testament.
>But Bodvar is working on the New Testament.

Ah... so that's what 'NT' stood for. I though it was a Windoze reference ;-)

>The NT writers used pen and paper, incidently.

I'm disappointed: I always thought it was goat skin. Better for the goats, I 
guess.

>Bibles, whether you are translating or formatting the pages, are
>especially challenging work.

Don't doubt it.

>I don't have the FM skills Bodvar asked for but I do appreciate the work
>has undertaken from a professional as well as a spiritual perspective.

I expect we all do, Daniel.

-- 
Steve



Does anyones have an EDD for the Bible?

2007-06-20 Thread Daniel Doornbos
I think you are correct, Steve. Paper in those days was made of goat and
other skins. I guess papyrus from Egypt was too expensive. I wonder if
any of the technical material we write today will be remembered 2K years
from now...

Daniel


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Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 10:47 AM
To: Daniel Doornbos; peter at knowhowpro.com
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Subject: RE: Does anyones have an EDD for the Bible?


At 10:32 -0700 20/6/07, Daniel Doornbos wrote:

>Now those comments show just how much you guys know about the Bible. 
>The 10 Commandments are in the Old Testament. But Bodvar is working on 
>the New Testament.

Ah... so that's what 'NT' stood for. I though it was a Windoze reference
;-)

>The NT writers used pen and paper, incidently.

I'm disappointed: I always thought it was goat skin. Better for the
goats, I guess.

>Bibles, whether you are translating or formatting the pages, are 
>especially challenging work.

Don't doubt it.

>I don't have the FM skills Bodvar asked for but I do appreciate the 
>work has undertaken from a professional as well as a spiritual 
>perspective.

I expect we all do, Daniel.

-- 
Steve



Does anyones have an EDD for the Bible?

2007-06-20 Thread Charles Beck
*I* wonder if any of the technical material we write today will be
remember 2 *decades* from now...

;o)

Chuck Beck

Sr. Technical Writer | Infor | Office: 614.523.7302 |
Charles.Beck at infor.com 



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Subject: RE: Does anyones have an EDD for the Bible?

I think you are correct, Steve. Paper in those days was made of goat and
other skins. I guess papyrus from Egypt was too expensive. I wonder if
any of the technical material we write today will be remembered 2K years
from now...

Daniel


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At 10:32 -0700 20/6/07, Daniel Doornbos wrote:

>Now those comments show just how much you guys know about the Bible. 
>The 10 Commandments are in the Old Testament. But Bodvar is working on 
>the New Testament.

Ah... so that's what 'NT' stood for. I though it was a Windoze reference
;-)

>The NT writers used pen and paper, incidently.

I'm disappointed: I always thought it was goat skin. Better for the
goats, I guess.

>Bibles, whether you are translating or formatting the pages, are 
>especially challenging work.

Don't doubt it.

>I don't have the FM skills Bodvar asked for but I do appreciate the 
>work has undertaken from a professional as well as a spiritual 
>perspective.

I expect we all do, Daniel.

-- 
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Does anyones have an EDD for the Bible?

2007-06-20 Thread Rene Stephenson
In telecommunications, the expiration date would be more on the order of 2 
*years* from now, if it's still current when published.

:o)
Rene Stephenson

Charles Beck  wrote: *I* wonder if any of the 
technical material we write today will be
remember 2 *decades* from now...

;o)

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Does anyones have an EDD for the Bible?

2007-06-20 Thread Peter Gold
Daniel:

Yes, it's pricey, or as they say here in Minnesota, "spendy!"

I remembered from some English course that included some history of
the novel, publishing, printing, etc., as you noted, that books at
first were too costly for the unwealthy.

Before mass-production printing techniques developed, the course's
text noted, that illustrations were a huge problem, because most were
re-drawn versions of earlier versions; each generation and artist
introduced new, unique, and creative errors and distortions that
sooner or later had no inkling of their original sources. (It took a
few hundred more years for the photocopy machine to introduce the same
kind of failure of copying.)

For this reason, pictureless copies of scientific materials that were
well-written by accurate observers were considered more accurate,
because even illiterate copyists could get the words right, whether
they were transcribed well or poorly.

Later, it went on, as the spread of mass-produced religious printed
materials, the graphics problem still was problematic. Woodcuts were
costly to create, but the invention of conditional variables for
graphics solved the problem! The garments of religious figures were
shown as generically religious garb. However, the faces needed to be
different for each group, so the woodcuts were made with empty holes
for faces. The holes were plugged with blocks that printed specific
faces and headgear for each market.

I always thought this was pretty cool, but in reading through Meggs'
"History of Graphic Design," 3rd ed., a book that's almost as
painstakingly researched and compiled as the St John's Bible ,
there's no mention of this "rubber-stamp" technology in his coverage
of the evolution of graphic communication from the beginnings of
language through written and printed forms, media, methods, and
technologies. Was I misled early on by that old course material?

Regards,

Peter
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On 6/20/07, Daniel Doornbos  wrote:
>
> Peter,
>
> I did not know about the Saint John's Bible project.
> And as soon as I read about it online I wanted one.
> Until I saw the $115,000 price tag.
> That reflects the situation in the days before the printing press, when
> only the wealthy could afford books.
> Thanks for the link.
>
> Daniel
>
>



Does anyones have an EDD for the Bible?

2007-06-20 Thread Bill Briggs
At 3:56 AM -0500 6/20/07, Peter Gold wrote:
>Is there any reason you can't just use two stone tablets and a chisel?

 That's only good for documents of about, hmmm, say 10 lines or so.

 - web



Does anyones have an EDD for the Bible?

2007-06-20 Thread Lin Surasky

I'm sorry. We're having a tool discussion on another thread, and I'm
afraid that this stone/chisel suggestion is going to end up as the top
choice!

(Would it be better than RoboHelp for creating documentation?)
;-)

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> >Is there any reason you can't just use two stone tablets and a 
> >chisel?
> 
>  That's only good for documents of about, hmmm, say 10 lines or so.
> 
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Does anyones have an EDD for the Bible?

2007-06-20 Thread Rene Stephenson
It would fall in line with RH for FM: DEAD.


Rene

Lin Surasky  wrote:  
I'm sorry. We're having a tool discussion on another thread, and I'm
afraid that this stone/chisel suggestion is going to end up as the top
choice!

(Would it be better than RoboHelp for creating documentation?)
;-)

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> At 3:56 AM -0500 6/20/07, Peter Gold wrote:
> >Is there any reason you can't just use two stone tablets and a 
> >chisel?
> 
>  That's only good for documents of about, hmmm, say 10 lines or so.
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Does anyones have an EDD for the Bible?

2007-06-20 Thread Stuart Rogers
Lin Surasky wrote:
>  
> I'm sorry. We're having a tool discussion on another thread, and I'm
> afraid that this stone/chisel suggestion is going to end up as the top
> choice!
> 
> (Would it be better than RoboHelp for creating documentation?)
> ;-)

I think this early PDF (Portable Decree Format) has been abandoned, as 
it turned out to be surprisingly fragile -- the first deliverables were 
damaged by the carrier and had to be replaced.

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Stuart Rogers
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Does anyones have an EDD for the Bible?

2007-06-20 Thread Lin Surasky
Actually, according to an historical film I saw as a child, there were
actually three tablets, but one fell off the mountain and was never
replaced 

Now THAT's an editing job! 

> -Original Message-
> From: Stuart Rogers [mailto:srogers at phoenix-geophysics.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 1:06 PM
> To: Lin Surasky
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: Does anyones have an EDD for the Bible?
> 
> Lin Surasky wrote:
> >  
> > I'm sorry. We're having a tool discussion on another 
> thread, and I'm 
> > afraid that this stone/chisel suggestion is going to end up 
> as the top 
> > choice!
> > 
> > (Would it be better than RoboHelp for creating documentation?)
> > ;-)
> 
> I think this early PDF (Portable Decree Format) has been 
> abandoned, as it turned out to be surprisingly fragile -- the 
> first deliverables were damaged by the carrier and had to be replaced.
> 
> --
> Stuart Rogers
> Technical Communicator
> Phoenix Geophysics Limited
> Toronto, ON, Canada
> +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325
> 
> srogers phoenix-geophysics com
> 
> "Developers explain How the Product Works.
> Technical writers explain How to Work the Product."
> 



Does anyones have an EDD for the Bible?

2007-06-19 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson

I am about to undertake the task of preparing special issue NT plus
based on a new translation (Icelandic) of the Bible that is ready to
be printed. I will only be getting the files in PDF (hopefully no
ligatures) as the last changes were made at the layout company, in
Denmark, I think. Maybe I will be able to get them in HTML as the
local publishing company is backward engineering the the files from
PDF. Not that I did not tell them about XML or FrameMaker. I did so
two years ago.

Anyway, I think this project is a typical structured thing, and as I
have very little time (in my time off), I wonder whether someone has,
or knows of, a suitable EDD for such a task. I think I have seen a
Bible DTD for XML, but not an EDD. There are XML Schemas and several
special markup languages for this too (USFM, USFX, OSIS, etc.),
because of the limitations of DTD (and EDD). However, I think this
could be done, especially if quotation marks are just typed and not
relying on an element or an attribute (maybe attributes may be used
for opening and closing quotes, etc.).

Am I over my head in this?

Please respond on or off the list.

Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
Iceland
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