Export a FM book to single Word file?

2008-03-20 Thread Art Campbell
I think you're right, Fred.
I looked at a copy of Standard and saw that it had the entry and
assumed it worked the same way that Pro does. But I leaped to the
wrong conclusion.

Thanks,
Art

On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 8:42 PM, Fred Ridder  wrote:
>
>  Art Campbell wrote:
>
>
>
> > If you want to create stand-alone PDFs that people can mark up with
>  > Reader 8, yes, you do need Pro or 3D.
>  >
>  > However, to make things a little less expensive, Standard delivers and
>  > performs the shared review functionality that includes the ability for
>  > reviewers to edit and comment with Reader, as stated on the Adobe
>  > site:
>  >
>  > http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/matrix.html
>  >
>  > Pro and 3D are great, but they're not required to conduct shared
>  > reviews with the reviewers using Reader 8. You only need them if you
>  > want to add this functionality outside the review cycle -- for
>  > instance, if you want customers to be able to download and annotate a
>  > PDF that you placed on your www site. But for reviews, if you're
>  > counting pennies, you can pass.
>
>  Sorry, Art, but I think you're misinterpreting the matrix. The shared
> review
>  capability that Acrobat Standard supports requires all reviewers to have
>  Acrobat and not just Adobe Reader. The minimum version that allows you
>  to create a PDF that can be annotated by people who have only Adobe
>  Reader is Acrobat Pro. So you can either buy the Standard version of
>  Acrobat for all reviewers, or pop for one copy of Acrobat Pro for the
>  tech writer preparing docs for review.
>
>  The Standard version of Acrobat 8.0 simply does not have the "Enable
>  for Commenting and Analysis in Adobe Reader" command.
>
>  -Fred Ridder
>
> 
> Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. Get it now!



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 No disclaimers apply.
 DoD 358


Export a FM book to single Word file?

2008-03-20 Thread Fred Ridder

Art Campbell wrote:

> If you want to create stand-alone PDFs that people can mark up with
> Reader 8, yes, you do need Pro or 3D.
> 
> However, to make things a little less expensive, Standard delivers and
> performs the shared review functionality that includes the ability for
> reviewers to edit and comment with Reader, as stated on the Adobe
> site:
> 
> http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/matrix.html
> 
> Pro and 3D are great, but they're not required to conduct shared
> reviews with the reviewers using Reader 8. You only need them if you
> want to add this functionality outside the review cycle -- for
> instance, if you want customers to be able to download and annotate a
> PDF that you placed on your www site. But for reviews, if you're
> counting pennies, you can pass.

Sorry, Art, but I think you're misinterpreting the matrix. The shared review
capability that Acrobat Standard supports requires all reviewers to have 
Acrobat and not just Adobe Reader. The minimum version that allows you
to create a PDF that can be annotated by people who have only Adobe
Reader is Acrobat Pro. So you can either buy the Standard version of 
Acrobat for all reviewers, or pop for one copy of Acrobat Pro for the
tech writer preparing docs for review.

The Standard version of Acrobat 8.0 simply does not have the "Enable 
for Commenting and Analysis in Adobe Reader" command.

-Fred Ridder
_
Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live.
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Export a FM book to single Word file?

2008-03-20 Thread Art Campbell
If you want to create stand-alone PDFs that people can mark up with
Reader 8, yes, you do need Pro or 3D.

However, to make things a little less expensive, Standard delivers and
performs the shared review functionality that includes the ability for
reviewers to edit and comment with Reader, as stated on the Adobe
site:

http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/matrix.html

Pro and 3D are great, but they're not required to conduct shared
reviews with the reviewers using Reader 8. You only need them if you
want to add this functionality outside the review cycle -- for
instance, if you want customers to be able to download and annotate a
PDF that you placed on your www site. But for reviews, if you're
counting pennies, you can pass.

Art

2008/3/20 Michael O'Neill :
> Sweet.  Just wanted to make sure I didn't get yelled at for suggesting the 
> most expensive option if cheaper alternatives existed.
>
>
>
>  -Michael
>
>
>
>  
>
>  From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docudoc at hotmail.com]
>  Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 5:23 PM
>  To: Michael O'Neill; Tina Ricks; Frame Users
>
> Subject: RE: Export a FM book to single Word file?
>
>
>
>
> Michale O'Neill write (in part):
>
>
>  > At the risk of confusing the issue, there seems to be a little bit of
>  > conflicting information out there as to what exactly is required to
>  > allow reviews with Adobe Reader. From
>  > http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/acrrfaq.html:
>
>
>  No real confusion except for the fact that the FAQ page clearly has not
>  been updated since Acrobat 7.0.
>
>  If you look at the product feature comparison matrix for Acrobat 8.0
>  http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/matrix.html
>  you will clearly see that the feature described as:
>   Enable Adobe Reader? users to participate in reviews with complete
>   commenting and markup tools, including sticky notes, highlighter, lines,
>   shapes, and stamps
>  is only supported by the Professional and 3D versions of the Acrobat
>  product suite.
>
>  Fred Ridder
>
>  
>
>  Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail(R)-get 
> your "fix". Check it out. <http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx>
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Re: Export a FM book to single Word file?

2008-03-20 Thread Art Campbell
I think you're right, Fred.
I looked at a copy of Standard and saw that it had the entry and
assumed it worked the same way that Pro does. But I leaped to the
wrong conclusion.

Thanks,
Art

On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 8:42 PM, Fred Ridder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  Art Campbell wrote:
>
>
>
> > If you want to create stand-alone PDFs that people can mark up with
>  > Reader 8, yes, you do need Pro or 3D.
>  >
>  > However, to make things a little less expensive, Standard delivers and
>  > performs the shared review functionality that includes the ability for
>  > reviewers to edit and comment with Reader, as stated on the Adobe
>  > site:
>  >
>  > http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/matrix.html
>  >
>  > Pro and 3D are great, but they're not required to conduct shared
>  > reviews with the reviewers using Reader 8. You only need them if you
>  > want to add this functionality outside the review cycle -- for
>  > instance, if you want customers to be able to download and annotate a
>  > PDF that you placed on your www site. But for reviews, if you're
>  > counting pennies, you can pass.
>
>  Sorry, Art, but I think you're misinterpreting the matrix. The shared
> review
>  capability that Acrobat Standard supports requires all reviewers to have
>  Acrobat and not just Adobe Reader. The minimum version that allows you
>  to create a PDF that can be annotated by people who have only Adobe
>  Reader is Acrobat Pro. So you can either buy the Standard version of
>  Acrobat for all reviewers, or pop for one copy of Acrobat Pro for the
>  tech writer preparing docs for review.
>
>  The Standard version of Acrobat 8.0 simply does not have the "Enable
>  for Commenting and Analysis in Adobe Reader" command.
>
>  -Fred Ridder
>
> 
> Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. Get it now!



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Export a FM book to single Word file?

2008-03-20 Thread Fred Ridder

Michale O'Neill write (in part):

> At the risk of confusing the issue, there seems to be a little bit of
> conflicting information out there as to what exactly is required to
> allow reviews with Adobe Reader. From
> http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/acrrfaq.html:

No real confusion except for the fact that the FAQ page clearly has not
been updated since Acrobat 7.0.

If you look at the product feature comparison matrix for Acrobat 8.0
http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/matrix.html
you will clearly see that the feature described as:
  Enable Adobe Reader? users to participate in reviews with complete 
  commenting and markup tools, including sticky notes, highlighter, lines, 
  shapes, and stamps
is only supported by the Professional and 3D versions of the Acrobat 
product suite.

Fred Ridder
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RE: Export a FM book to single Word file?

2008-03-20 Thread Fred Ridder

Art Campbell wrote:
 
> If you want to create stand-alone PDFs that people can mark up with
> Reader 8, yes, you do need Pro or 3D.
> 
> However, to make things a little less expensive, Standard delivers and
> performs the shared review functionality that includes the ability for
> reviewers to edit and comment with Reader, as stated on the Adobe
> site:
> 
> http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/matrix.html
> 
> Pro and 3D are great, but they're not required to conduct shared
> reviews with the reviewers using Reader 8. You only need them if you
> want to add this functionality outside the review cycle -- for
> instance, if you want customers to be able to download and annotate a
> PDF that you placed on your www site. But for reviews, if you're
> counting pennies, you can pass.
 
Sorry, Art, but I think you're misinterpreting the matrix. The shared review
capability that Acrobat Standard supports requires all reviewers to have 
Acrobat and not just Adobe Reader. The minimum version that allows you
to create a PDF that can be annotated by people who have only Adobe
Reader is Acrobat Pro. So you can either buy the Standard version of 
Acrobat for all reviewers, or pop for one copy of Acrobat Pro for the
tech writer preparing docs for review.
 
The Standard version of Acrobat 8.0 simply does not have the "Enable 
for Commenting and Analysis in Adobe Reader" command.
 
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Export a FM book to single Word file?

2008-03-20 Thread Michael O'Neill
Sweet.  Just wanted to make sure I didn?t get yelled at for suggesting the most 
expensive option if cheaper alternatives existed.



-Michael





From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 5:23 PM
To: Michael O'Neill; Tina Ricks; Frame Users
Subject: RE: Export a FM book to single Word file?



Michale O'Neill write (in part):


> At the risk of confusing the issue, there seems to be a little bit of
> conflicting information out there as to what exactly is required to
> allow reviews with Adobe Reader. From
> http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/acrrfaq.html:


No real confusion except for the fact that the FAQ page clearly has not
been updated since Acrobat 7.0.

If you look at the product feature comparison matrix for Acrobat 8.0
http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/matrix.html
you will clearly see that the feature described as:
  Enable Adobe Reader? users to participate in reviews with complete 
  commenting and markup tools, including sticky notes, highlighter, lines, 
  shapes, and stamps
is only supported by the Professional and 3D versions of the Acrobat 
product suite.

Fred Ridder



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Export a FM book to single Word file?

2008-03-20 Thread Michael O'Neill
At the risk of confusing the issue, there seems to be a little bit of
conflicting information out there as to what exactly is required to
allow reviews with Adobe Reader.  From
http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/acrrfaq.html:

Q. Can I mark up and review files in Adobe Reader?

A. Yes, if this functionality has been rights-enabled by the PDF author.
Adobe Acrobat or Adobe LiveCycle software lets PDF authors turn on
special commenting tools in Adobe Reader on a document-by-document
basis. This capability enables Adobe Reader 7.0 users to easily review
and mark up PDF files with a variety of commenting and markup tools. You
can add sticky notes; indicate text edits; and highlight, cross out, or
underline text. You can also add premade or dynamic stamps.

Q. Can I add comments to a PDF file with Adobe Reader?

A. PDF authors using Adobe LiveCycle(tm) enterprise server and design
software can activate special features in their documents that provide
additional functionality. These enabled Adobe PDF files allow people
with Adobe Reader to save the file to a local hard drive, fill out
forms, add comments and other markups, share it with others, and submit
a completed document electronically. In addition, Adobe PDF files can be
enabled to allow people to digitally sign, certify, and authenticate a
document.

The first answer does _not_ specify that Acrobat Professional is
required to turn on the special commenting tools when the PDF is opened
in Adobe Reader.  The second answer is more specific, requiring "Acrobat
Professional or Adobe LiveCycle".  In either case, Acrobat Professional
will do the job...but depending on what you want your reviewers to do
with Adobe Reader, you _may_ be able to get by with a less expensive
version of Acrobat.  

-Michael

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tina Ricks
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 4:09 PM
To: 'Frame Users'
Subject: RE: Export a FM book to single Word file?

Thanks for input everyone. It seems that buying Acrobat Pro for the
comments
feature is the most stable and the cheapest answer, and my Word-loving
reviewers will have to live with it. If I give them the choice of
reviewing
one PDF file with comments vs. 32 separate Word files, they'll choose
the
PDF.



Tina Ricks

Editor, Trial Guides

tina at trialguides.com





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Export a FM book to single Word file?

2008-03-20 Thread Art Campbell
You may want to see if MIF2Go will write a FM book file out as a
single .RTF file.
I know it'll process books, but I don't know what the output options are.

At the same time, you may want to make sure that your reviewers can
handle the file in Word, because it's large file / long doc handling
is still one of its big weaknesses. I think it's unlikely that Word
can handle it. About the third or fourth time that Word chokes on it
would be about the time that the reviewers give up, I'd guess.

Also, Acrobat 8 Standard is pretty cheap and available for a
30-day eval And enabling reviews is actually the least of its
review features. Handling and tracking the review comments is more
important, and it excels at that.

Cheers,
Art


On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Tina Ricks  
wrote:
> I'd like to export my Frame book (easily) to one giant Word file, and I
>  haven't figured out how to do it other than one file at a time, then put
>  them back together by hand in Word.
>
>
>
>  I have many outside reviewers who need to review and add comments
>  electronically, and like it or not, Word is the lingua franca of most of the
>  world. My reviewers are fine that the pages look a little weird in the Frame
>  RTF export.
>
>
>
>  I've been researching the commenting features in Acrobat 8, and I keep
>  coming across this statement: "Commenting tools are only available in PDFs
>  that have commenting enabled." OK. but it looks as if I can't enable
>  commenting rights from the PDFs that come out of FM8's File > Save as PDF
>  feature (unless I'm missing something). I don't really want to buy full
>  Acrobat just for this feature.
>
>
>
>  Sending an enormous zip file of little Word documents isn't very efficient
>  for the reader on the other end.
>
>
>
>  There's no RTF option in File > Save Book As.
>
>

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Re: Export a FM book to single Word file?

2008-03-20 Thread Art Campbell
If you want to create stand-alone PDFs that people can mark up with
Reader 8, yes, you do need Pro or 3D.

However, to make things a little less expensive, Standard delivers and
performs the shared review functionality that includes the ability for
reviewers to edit and comment with Reader, as stated on the Adobe
site:

http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/matrix.html

Pro and 3D are great, but they're not required to conduct shared
reviews with the reviewers using Reader 8. You only need them if you
want to add this functionality outside the review cycle -- for
instance, if you want customers to be able to download and annotate a
PDF that you placed on your www site. But for reviews, if you're
counting pennies, you can pass.

Art

2008/3/20 Michael O'Neill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Sweet.  Just wanted to make sure I didn't get yelled at for suggesting the 
> most expensive option if cheaper alternatives existed.
>
>
>
>  -Michael
>
>
>
>  
>
>  From: Fred Ridder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 5:23 PM
>  To: Michael O'Neill; Tina Ricks; Frame Users
>
> Subject: RE: Export a FM book to single Word file?
>
>
>
>
> Michale O'Neill write (in part):
>
>
>  > At the risk of confusing the issue, there seems to be a little bit of
>  > conflicting information out there as to what exactly is required to
>  > allow reviews with Adobe Reader. From
>  > http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/acrrfaq.html:
>
>
>  No real confusion except for the fact that the FAQ page clearly has not
>  been updated since Acrobat 7.0.
>
>  If you look at the product feature comparison matrix for Acrobat 8.0
>  http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/matrix.html
>  you will clearly see that the feature described as:
>   Enable Adobe Reader† users to participate in reviews with complete
>   commenting and markup tools, including sticky notes, highlighter, lines,
>   shapes, and stamps
>  is only supported by the Professional and 3D versions of the Acrobat
>  product suite.
>
>  Fred Ridder
>
>  
>
>  Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail(R)-get 
> your "fix". Check it out. <http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx>
>
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RE: Export a FM book to single Word file?

2008-03-20 Thread Michael O'Neill
Sweet.  Just wanted to make sure I didn’t get yelled at for suggesting the most 
expensive option if cheaper alternatives existed.

 

-Michael

 



From: Fred Ridder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 5:23 PM
To: Michael O'Neill; Tina Ricks; Frame Users
Subject: RE: Export a FM book to single Word file?

 

Michale O'Neill write (in part):
 

> At the risk of confusing the issue, there seems to be a little bit of
> conflicting information out there as to what exactly is required to
> allow reviews with Adobe Reader. From
> http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/acrrfaq.html:
 

No real confusion except for the fact that the FAQ page clearly has not
been updated since Acrobat 7.0.
 
If you look at the product feature comparison matrix for Acrobat 8.0
http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/matrix.html
you will clearly see that the feature described as:
  Enable Adobe Reader† users to participate in reviews with complete 
  commenting and markup tools, including sticky notes, highlighter, lines, 
  shapes, and stamps
is only supported by the Professional and 3D versions of the Acrobat 
product suite.
 
Fred Ridder



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RE: Export a FM book to single Word file?

2008-03-20 Thread Fred Ridder

Michale O'Neill write (in part):
 
> At the risk of confusing the issue, there seems to be a little bit of
> conflicting information out there as to what exactly is required to
> allow reviews with Adobe Reader. From
> http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/acrrfaq.html:
 
No real confusion except for the fact that the FAQ page clearly has not
been updated since Acrobat 7.0.
 
If you look at the product feature comparison matrix for Acrobat 8.0
http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/matrix.html
you will clearly see that the feature described as:
  Enable Adobe Reader† users to participate in reviews with complete 
  commenting and markup tools, including sticky notes, highlighter, lines, 
  shapes, and stamps
is only supported by the Professional and 3D versions of the Acrobat 
product suite.
 
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RE: Export a FM book to single Word file?

2008-03-20 Thread Michael O'Neill
At the risk of confusing the issue, there seems to be a little bit of
conflicting information out there as to what exactly is required to
allow reviews with Adobe Reader.  From
http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/acrrfaq.html:

Q. Can I mark up and review files in Adobe Reader?

A. Yes, if this functionality has been rights-enabled by the PDF author.
Adobe Acrobat or Adobe LiveCycle software lets PDF authors turn on
special commenting tools in Adobe Reader on a document-by-document
basis. This capability enables Adobe Reader 7.0 users to easily review
and mark up PDF files with a variety of commenting and markup tools. You
can add sticky notes; indicate text edits; and highlight, cross out, or
underline text. You can also add premade or dynamic stamps.

Q. Can I add comments to a PDF file with Adobe Reader?

A. PDF authors using Adobe LiveCycle(tm) enterprise server and design
software can activate special features in their documents that provide
additional functionality. These enabled Adobe PDF files allow people
with Adobe Reader to save the file to a local hard drive, fill out
forms, add comments and other markups, share it with others, and submit
a completed document electronically. In addition, Adobe PDF files can be
enabled to allow people to digitally sign, certify, and authenticate a
document.

The first answer does _not_ specify that Acrobat Professional is
required to turn on the special commenting tools when the PDF is opened
in Adobe Reader.  The second answer is more specific, requiring "Acrobat
Professional or Adobe LiveCycle".  In either case, Acrobat Professional
will do the job...but depending on what you want your reviewers to do
with Adobe Reader, you _may_ be able to get by with a less expensive
version of Acrobat.  
 
-Michael

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tina Ricks
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 4:09 PM
To: 'Frame Users'
Subject: RE: Export a FM book to single Word file?

Thanks for input everyone. It seems that buying Acrobat Pro for the
comments
feature is the most stable and the cheapest answer, and my Word-loving
reviewers will have to live with it. If I give them the choice of
reviewing
one PDF file with comments vs. 32 separate Word files, they'll choose
the
PDF.

 

Tina Ricks

Editor, Trial Guides

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

 

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Export a FM book to single Word file?

2008-03-20 Thread Michael O'Neill
You do need Acrobat Professional in order to save the PDF with
commenting enabled for Adobe Reader.  

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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tina Ricks
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 2:01 PM
To: 'Frame Users'
Subject: Export a FM book to single Word file?

I'd like to export my Frame book (easily) to one giant Word file, and I
haven't figured out how to do it other than one file at a time, then put
them back together by hand in Word.



I have many outside reviewers who need to review and add comments
electronically, and like it or not, Word is the lingua franca of most of
the
world. My reviewers are fine that the pages look a little weird in the
Frame
RTF export.



I've been researching the commenting features in Acrobat 8, and I keep
coming across this statement: "Commenting tools are only available in
PDFs
that have commenting enabled." OK. but it looks as if I can't enable
commenting rights from the PDFs that come out of FM8's File > Save as
PDF
feature (unless I'm missing something). I don't really want to buy full
Acrobat just for this feature.



Sending an enormous zip file of little Word documents isn't very
efficient
for the reader on the other end.



There's no RTF option in File > Save Book As.



Ideas?



Tina Ricks

Editor, Trial Guides

tina at trialguides.com





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RE: Export a FM book to single Word file?

2008-03-20 Thread Tina Ricks
Thanks for input everyone. It seems that buying Acrobat Pro for the comments
feature is the most stable and the cheapest answer, and my Word-loving
reviewers will have to live with it. If I give them the choice of reviewing
one PDF file with comments vs. 32 separate Word files, they'll choose the
PDF.

 

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Export a FM book to single Word file?

2008-03-20 Thread Tina Ricks
Thanks for input everyone. It seems that buying Acrobat Pro for the comments
feature is the most stable and the cheapest answer, and my Word-loving
reviewers will have to live with it. If I give them the choice of reviewing
one PDF file with comments vs. 32 separate Word files, they'll choose the
PDF.



Tina Ricks

Editor, Trial Guides

tina at trialguides.com







Re: Export a FM book to single Word file?

2008-03-20 Thread Art Campbell
You may want to see if MIF2Go will write a FM book file out as a
single .RTF file.
I know it'll process books, but I don't know what the output options are.

At the same time, you may want to make sure that your reviewers can
handle the file in Word, because it's large file / long doc handling
is still one of its big weaknesses. I think it's unlikely that Word
can handle it. About the third or fourth time that Word chokes on it
would be about the time that the reviewers give up, I'd guess.

Also, Acrobat 8 Standard is pretty cheap and available for a
30-day eval And enabling reviews is actually the least of its
review features. Handling and tracking the review comments is more
important, and it excels at that.

Cheers,
Art


On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Tina Ricks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'd like to export my Frame book (easily) to one giant Word file, and I
>  haven't figured out how to do it other than one file at a time, then put
>  them back together by hand in Word.
>
>
>
>  I have many outside reviewers who need to review and add comments
>  electronically, and like it or not, Word is the lingua franca of most of the
>  world. My reviewers are fine that the pages look a little weird in the Frame
>  RTF export.
>
>
>
>  I've been researching the commenting features in Acrobat 8, and I keep
>  coming across this statement: "Commenting tools are only available in PDFs
>  that have commenting enabled." OK. but it looks as if I can't enable
>  commenting rights from the PDFs that come out of FM8's File > Save as PDF
>  feature (unless I'm missing something). I don't really want to buy full
>  Acrobat just for this feature.
>
>
>
>  Sending an enormous zip file of little Word documents isn't very efficient
>  for the reader on the other end.
>
>
>
>  There's no RTF option in File > Save Book As.
>
>

-- 
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Re: Export a FM book to single Word file?

2008-03-20 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 12:00:38 -0700, "Tina Ricks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

>I'd like to export my Frame book (easily) to one giant Word file, and I
>haven't figured out how to do it other than one file at a time, then put
>them back together by hand in Word.

That's possible, but not a good idea.  Word has numerous problems
with large files, and a typical Frame book would produce a *very*
large Word file.

Nonetheless, if you still feel the need to do it, you can make up
a new Frame document and import by reference all of the files in
your book as insets.  You will lose any differences in master pages,
and your numbering will be continuous, so any use of <$chapnum>
will not work as expected.  But you can then convert the file to
a single Word file.

>I have many outside reviewers who need to review and add comments
>electronically, and like it or not, Word is the lingua franca of most of the
>world. My reviewers are fine that the pages look a little weird in the Frame
>RTF export.

If it's only "a little weird", you've done remarkably well!  ;-)

If you want the Word files to look almost exactly like the Frame
files, with features like sideheads and hyperlinks preserved,
have a look at Mif2Go.  There's a free, unlimited demo version at:
  http://www.omsys.com/dcl/download.htm

We're the developers of Mif2Go, so we may be biased , but we
don't know of any other tool that gives such a close rendering
of Frame files in Word.  In addition, Mif2Go produces top-quality
HTML and XML (including DocBook and DITA), plus numerous Help
formats, from unstructured as well as structured Frame, and can
be fully automated.  It's also fast and inexpensive.

HTH!
-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  http://www.omsys.com/
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Export a FM book to single Word file?

2008-03-20 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 12:00:38 -0700, "Tina Ricks"  
wrote:

>I'd like to export my Frame book (easily) to one giant Word file, and I
>haven't figured out how to do it other than one file at a time, then put
>them back together by hand in Word.

That's possible, but not a good idea.  Word has numerous problems
with large files, and a typical Frame book would produce a *very*
large Word file.

Nonetheless, if you still feel the need to do it, you can make up
a new Frame document and import by reference all of the files in
your book as insets.  You will lose any differences in master pages,
and your numbering will be continuous, so any use of <$chapnum>
will not work as expected.  But you can then convert the file to
a single Word file.

>I have many outside reviewers who need to review and add comments
>electronically, and like it or not, Word is the lingua franca of most of the
>world. My reviewers are fine that the pages look a little weird in the Frame
>RTF export.

If it's only "a little weird", you've done remarkably well!  ;-)

If you want the Word files to look almost exactly like the Frame
files, with features like sideheads and hyperlinks preserved,
have a look at Mif2Go.  There's a free, unlimited demo version at:
  http://www.omsys.com/dcl/download.htm

We're the developers of Mif2Go, so we may be biased , but we
don't know of any other tool that gives such a close rendering
of Frame files in Word.  In addition, Mif2Go produces top-quality
HTML and XML (including DocBook and DITA), plus numerous Help
formats, from unstructured as well as structured Frame, and can
be fully automated.  It's also fast and inexpensive.

HTH!
-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
http://www.omsys.com/


RE: Export a FM book to single Word file?

2008-03-20 Thread Michael O'Neill
You do need Acrobat Professional in order to save the PDF with
commenting enabled for Adobe Reader.  

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tina Ricks
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 2:01 PM
To: 'Frame Users'
Subject: Export a FM book to single Word file?

I'd like to export my Frame book (easily) to one giant Word file, and I
haven't figured out how to do it other than one file at a time, then put
them back together by hand in Word.

 

I have many outside reviewers who need to review and add comments
electronically, and like it or not, Word is the lingua franca of most of
the
world. My reviewers are fine that the pages look a little weird in the
Frame
RTF export.

 

I've been researching the commenting features in Acrobat 8, and I keep
coming across this statement: "Commenting tools are only available in
PDFs
that have commenting enabled." OK. but it looks as if I can't enable
commenting rights from the PDFs that come out of FM8's File > Save as
PDF
feature (unless I'm missing something). I don't really want to buy full
Acrobat just for this feature.

 

Sending an enormous zip file of little Word documents isn't very
efficient
for the reader on the other end.

 

There's no RTF option in File > Save Book As.

 

Ideas?

 

Tina Ricks

Editor, Trial Guides

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

 

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Export a FM book to single Word file?

2008-03-20 Thread Tina Ricks
I'd like to export my Frame book (easily) to one giant Word file, and I
haven't figured out how to do it other than one file at a time, then put
them back together by hand in Word.

 

I have many outside reviewers who need to review and add comments
electronically, and like it or not, Word is the lingua franca of most of the
world. My reviewers are fine that the pages look a little weird in the Frame
RTF export.

 

I've been researching the commenting features in Acrobat 8, and I keep
coming across this statement: "Commenting tools are only available in PDFs
that have commenting enabled." OK. but it looks as if I can't enable
commenting rights from the PDFs that come out of FM8's File > Save as PDF
feature (unless I'm missing something). I don't really want to buy full
Acrobat just for this feature.

 

Sending an enormous zip file of little Word documents isn't very efficient
for the reader on the other end.

 

There's no RTF option in File > Save Book As.

 

Ideas?

 

Tina Ricks

Editor, Trial Guides

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

 

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Export a FM book to single Word file?

2008-03-20 Thread Tina Ricks
I'd like to export my Frame book (easily) to one giant Word file, and I
haven't figured out how to do it other than one file at a time, then put
them back together by hand in Word.



I have many outside reviewers who need to review and add comments
electronically, and like it or not, Word is the lingua franca of most of the
world. My reviewers are fine that the pages look a little weird in the Frame
RTF export.



I've been researching the commenting features in Acrobat 8, and I keep
coming across this statement: "Commenting tools are only available in PDFs
that have commenting enabled." OK. but it looks as if I can't enable
commenting rights from the PDFs that come out of FM8's File > Save as PDF
feature (unless I'm missing something). I don't really want to buy full
Acrobat just for this feature.



Sending an enormous zip file of little Word documents isn't very efficient
for the reader on the other end.



There's no RTF option in File > Save Book As.



Ideas?



Tina Ricks

Editor, Trial Guides

tina at trialguides.com