RE: FM 9p255 only uses 25% of CPU no matter what

2012-03-28 Thread John Sgammato
I am on Win7-64 and have very few problems except for one: If I update a book 
and book file that had been compressed in the directory, then the book file 
causes a crash. If I open it and save it alone, the problem goes away.

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Subject: Re: FM 9p255 only uses 25% of CPU no matter what

Win7 32 or 64? I've encountered many compatibility problems with the latter, 
would switch to 32 if it wasn't such a pain.

On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Rob Shell rsh...@iafrica.com wrote:
 Hi Framers:
 I have taken to watching FM9 crash using task manager and winternals.
 What struck me is that no matter what load was put on FM9, it never 
 used more than 25% of the CPU. It hovered at 24.9 but never above.
 Does that means only one of the four processors is being accessed. All 
 coprocessors are working...
 Added to this disturbing reading (and maybe I have misunderstood how 
 quads
 work) Windows 7 reports on running the compatibility add-on that FM is 
 INCOMPATIBLE with windows 7.
 It tries to run it under the XP shell, but that makes FM very slow.
 My feeling is that FM9 was designed for Vista and nobody bothered to 
 fix it after windows 7 was introduced.
 The last patch was two years ago. I know there are a lot of people out 
 there who have the same issues.
 Plus, there are some shocking reviews.

 Rob Shell
 FM9 p255
 4 gigs ram quad
 3 terabyte drives
 OS Windows 7 with every update.




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 FrameMaker 9 patched
 4 GB RAM
 3 TB hd


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FM 9p255 only uses 25% of CPU no matter what

2012-03-28 Thread John Sgammato
I am on Win7-64 and have very few problems except for one: If I update a book 
and book file that had been compressed in the directory, then the book file 
causes a crash. If I open it and save it alone, the problem goes away.

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Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 2:12 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: FM 9p255 only uses 25% of CPU no matter what

Win7 32 or 64? I've encountered many compatibility problems with the latter, 
would switch to 32 if it wasn't such a pain.

On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Rob Shell  wrote:
> Hi Framers:
> I have taken to watching FM9 crash using task manager and winternals.
> What struck me is that no matter what load was put on FM9, it never 
> used more than 25% of the CPU. It hovered at 24.9 but never above.
> Does that means only one of the four processors is being accessed. All 
> coprocessors are working...
> Added to this disturbing reading (and maybe I have misunderstood how 
> quads
> work) Windows 7 reports on running the compatibility add-on that FM is 
> "INCOMPATIBLE" with windows 7.
> It tries to run it under the XP shell, but that makes FM very slow.
> My feeling is that FM9 was designed for Vista and nobody bothered to 
> fix it after windows 7 was introduced.
> The last patch was two years ago. I know there are a lot of people out 
> there who have the same issues.
> Plus, there are some shocking reviews.
>
> Rob Shell
> FM9 p255
> 4 gigs ram quad
> 3 terabyte drives
> OS Windows 7 with every update.
>
>
>>
>
> Rob Shell
> Windows Seven
> FrameMaker 9 patched
> 4 GB RAM
> 3 TB hd
>
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FM 9p255 only uses 25% of CPU no matter what

2012-03-27 Thread Rob Shell
Hi Framers:
I have taken to watching FM9 crash using task manager and winternals.
What struck me is that no matter what load was put on FM9, it never used
more than 25% of the CPU. It hovered at 24.9 but never above.
Does that means only one of the four processors is being accessed. All
coprocessors are working...
Added to this disturbing reading (and maybe I have misunderstood how quads
work) Windows 7 reports on running the compatibility add-on that FM is
INCOMPATIBLE with windows 7.
It tries to run it under the XP shell, but that makes FM very slow.
My feeling is that FM9 was designed for Vista and nobody bothered to fix it
after windows 7 was introduced.
The last patch was two years ago. I know there are a lot of people out there
who have the same issues.
Plus, there are some shocking reviews.

Rob Shell
FM9 p255
4 gigs ram quad
3 terabyte drives
OS Windows 7 with every update.




Rob Shell
Windows Seven
FrameMaker 9 patched
4 GB RAM
3 TB hd


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RE: FM 9p255 only uses 25% of CPU no matter what

2012-03-27 Thread Combs, Richard
Rob Shell wrote:
 I have taken to watching FM9 crash using task manager and winternals.
 What struck me is that no matter what load was put on FM9, it never
 used
 more than 25% of the CPU. It hovered at 24.9 but never above.
 Does that means only one of the four processors is being accessed. All
 coprocessors are working...

It means that exactly. FM doesn't use multiple processors. Why does that 
disturb you? 

Many, many apps (even current releases) don't take advantage of multiple 
processors, or of only two (2 or 4 threads). There's little to be gained unless 
you're doing heavy graphics or video work. Your other processors are available 
to the other apps you're running at the same time. 

 Added to this disturbing reading (and maybe I have misunderstood how
 quads
 work) Windows 7 reports on running the compatibility add-on that FM is
 INCOMPATIBLE with windows 7.
 It tries to run it under the XP shell, but that makes FM very slow.
 My feeling is that FM9 was designed for Vista and nobody bothered to
 fix it
 after windows 7 was introduced.
 The last patch was two years ago. I know there are a lot of people out
 there
 who have the same issues.

FM 9 was released almost a year before Windows 7. FM 10, released more than a 
year ago, is compatible with Windows 7. But I wouldn't rush to upgrade, because 
FM 11 will likely be announced soon. 

It's unrealistic and unreasonable, IMHO, to expect Adobe to release an FM 9.x 
version that's Windows 7 compatible, or to fix anything other than security 
issues or other serious bugs. 

 Plus, there are some shocking reviews. 

None recent, I'd guess, since it's 3+ years old. 


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Polycom, Inc.
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Re: FM 9p255 only uses 25% of CPU no matter what

2012-03-27 Thread Roman Banks
Hi Rob,
 
FM9 is compatible with Win7 and I don't see any reason why it runs in WinXP 
compatibility mode on your PC. Framemaker 9 crashes because it is buggy. I 
would call it a beta version of Framemaker with the new interface. When I 
upgraded to FMv10, all the stability issues that you describe almost 
disappeared. I can't say that FMv10 does not crash at all, but it does so very 
rarely.
 
HTH,
Roman

From: Rob Shell rsh...@iafrica.com
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 6:58 PM
Subject: FM 9p255 only uses 25% of CPU no matter what

Hi Framers:
I have taken to watching FM9 crash using task manager and winternals.
What struck me is that no matter what load was put on FM9, it never used
more than 25% of the CPU. It hovered at 24.9 but never above.
Does that means only one of the four processors is being accessed. All
coprocessors are working...
Added to this disturbing reading (and maybe I have misunderstood how quads
work) Windows 7 reports on running the compatibility add-on that FM is
INCOMPATIBLE with windows 7.
It tries to run it under the XP shell, but that makes FM very slow.
My feeling is that FM9 was designed for Vista and nobody bothered to fix it
after windows 7 was introduced.
The last patch was two years ago. I know there are a lot of people out there
who have the same issues.
Plus, there are some shocking reviews.

Rob Shell
FM9 p255
4 gigs ram quad
3 terabyte drives
OS Windows 7 with every update.




Rob Shell
Windows Seven
FrameMaker 9 patched
4 GB RAM
3 TB hd


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Re: FM 9p255 only uses 25% of CPU no matter what

2012-03-27 Thread Robert Lauriston
Win7 32 or 64? I've encountered many compatibility problems with the
latter, would switch to 32 if it wasn't such a pain.

On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Rob Shell rsh...@iafrica.com wrote:
 Hi Framers:
 I have taken to watching FM9 crash using task manager and winternals.
 What struck me is that no matter what load was put on FM9, it never used
 more than 25% of the CPU. It hovered at 24.9 but never above.
 Does that means only one of the four processors is being accessed. All
 coprocessors are working...
 Added to this disturbing reading (and maybe I have misunderstood how quads
 work) Windows 7 reports on running the compatibility add-on that FM is
 INCOMPATIBLE with windows 7.
 It tries to run it under the XP shell, but that makes FM very slow.
 My feeling is that FM9 was designed for Vista and nobody bothered to fix it
 after windows 7 was introduced.
 The last patch was two years ago. I know there are a lot of people out there
 who have the same issues.
 Plus, there are some shocking reviews.

 Rob Shell
 FM9 p255
 4 gigs ram quad
 3 terabyte drives
 OS Windows 7 with every update.




 Rob Shell
 Windows Seven
 FrameMaker 9 patched
 4 GB RAM
 3 TB hd


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FM 9p255 only uses 25% of CPU no matter what

2012-03-27 Thread Rob Shell
Hi Framers:
I have taken to watching FM9 crash using task manager and winternals.
What struck me is that no matter what load was put on FM9, it never used
more than 25% of the CPU. It hovered at 24.9 but never above.
Does that means only one of the four processors is being accessed. All
coprocessors are working...
Added to this disturbing reading (and maybe I have misunderstood how quads
work) Windows 7 reports on running the compatibility add-on that FM is
"INCOMPATIBLE" with windows 7.
It tries to run it under the XP shell, but that makes FM very slow.
My feeling is that FM9 was designed for Vista and nobody bothered to fix it
after windows 7 was introduced.
The last patch was two years ago. I know there are a lot of people out there
who have the same issues.
Plus, there are some shocking reviews.

Rob Shell
FM9 p255
4 gigs ram quad
3 terabyte drives
OS Windows 7 with every update.


>

Rob Shell
Windows Seven
FrameMaker 9 patched
4 GB RAM
3 TB hd




FM 9p255 only uses 25% of CPU no matter what

2012-03-27 Thread Combs, Richard
Rob Shell wrote:
 I have taken to watching FM9 crash using task manager and winternals.
> What struck me is that no matter what load was put on FM9, it never
> used
> more than 25% of the CPU. It hovered at 24.9 but never above.
> Does that means only one of the four processors is being accessed. All
> coprocessors are working...

It means that exactly. FM doesn't use multiple processors. Why does that 
disturb you? 

Many, many apps (even current releases) don't take advantage of multiple 
processors, or of only two (2 or 4 threads). There's little to be gained unless 
you're doing heavy graphics or video work. Your other processors are available 
to the other apps you're running at the same time. 

> Added to this disturbing reading (and maybe I have misunderstood how
> quads
> work) Windows 7 reports on running the compatibility add-on that FM is
> "INCOMPATIBLE" with windows 7.
> It tries to run it under the XP shell, but that makes FM very slow.
> My feeling is that FM9 was designed for Vista and nobody bothered to
> fix it
> after windows 7 was introduced.
> The last patch was two years ago. I know there are a lot of people out
> there
> who have the same issues.

FM 9 was released almost a year before Windows 7. FM 10, released more than a 
year ago, is compatible with Windows 7. But I wouldn't rush to upgrade, because 
FM 11 will likely be announced soon. 

It's unrealistic and unreasonable, IMHO, to expect Adobe to release an FM 9.x 
version that's Windows 7 compatible, or to fix anything other than security 
issues or other serious bugs. 

> Plus, there are some shocking reviews. 

None recent, I'd guess, since it's 3+ years old. 


Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
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FM 9p255 only uses 25% of CPU no matter what

2012-03-27 Thread Roman Banks
Hi Rob,
?
FM9 is compatible with Win7 and I don't see any reason why it runs in WinXP 
compatibility mode on your PC.?Framemaker 9?crashes because it is buggy. I 
would?call it a "beta version of Framemaker with the new interface". When?I 
upgraded to FMv10, all?the stability issues that you describe almost 
disappeared. I?can't say that FMv10 does not crash at all, but it does so very 
rarely.
?
HTH,
Roman

From: Rob Shell <rsh...@iafrica.com>
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 6:58 PM
Subject: FM 9p255 only uses 25% of CPU no matter what

Hi Framers:
I have taken to watching FM9 crash using task manager and winternals.
What struck me is that no matter what load was put on FM9, it never used
more than 25% of the CPU. It hovered at 24.9 but never above.
Does that means only one of the four processors is being accessed. All
coprocessors are working...
Added to this disturbing reading (and maybe I have misunderstood how quads
work) Windows 7 reports on running the compatibility add-on that FM is
"INCOMPATIBLE" with windows 7.
It tries to run it under the XP shell, but that makes FM very slow.
My feeling is that FM9 was designed for Vista and nobody bothered to fix it
after windows 7 was introduced.
The last patch was two years ago. I know there are a lot of people out there
who have the same issues.
Plus, there are some shocking reviews.

Rob Shell
FM9 p255
4 gigs ram quad
3 terabyte drives
OS Windows 7 with every update.


>

Rob Shell
Windows Seven
FrameMaker 9 patched
4 GB RAM
3 TB hd


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FM 9p255 only uses 25% of CPU no matter what

2012-03-27 Thread Robert Lauriston
Win7 32 or 64? I've encountered many compatibility problems with the
latter, would switch to 32 if it wasn't such a pain.

On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Rob Shell  wrote:
> Hi Framers:
> I have taken to watching FM9 crash using task manager and winternals.
> What struck me is that no matter what load was put on FM9, it never used
> more than 25% of the CPU. It hovered at 24.9 but never above.
> Does that means only one of the four processors is being accessed. All
> coprocessors are working...
> Added to this disturbing reading (and maybe I have misunderstood how quads
> work) Windows 7 reports on running the compatibility add-on that FM is
> "INCOMPATIBLE" with windows 7.
> It tries to run it under the XP shell, but that makes FM very slow.
> My feeling is that FM9 was designed for Vista and nobody bothered to fix it
> after windows 7 was introduced.
> The last patch was two years ago. I know there are a lot of people out there
> who have the same issues.
> Plus, there are some shocking reviews.
>
> Rob Shell
> FM9 p255
> 4 gigs ram quad
> 3 terabyte drives
> OS Windows 7 with every update.
>
>
>>
>
> Rob Shell
> Windows Seven
> FrameMaker 9 patched
> 4 GB RAM
> 3 TB hd
>
>
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