RE: FM 9p255 only uses 25% of CPU no matter what
I am on Win7-64 and have very few problems except for one: If I update a book and book file that had been compressed in the directory, then the book file causes a crash. If I open it and save it alone, the problem goes away. -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 2:12 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: FM 9p255 only uses 25% of CPU no matter what Win7 32 or 64? I've encountered many compatibility problems with the latter, would switch to 32 if it wasn't such a pain. On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Rob Shell rsh...@iafrica.com wrote: Hi Framers: I have taken to watching FM9 crash using task manager and winternals. What struck me is that no matter what load was put on FM9, it never used more than 25% of the CPU. It hovered at 24.9 but never above. Does that means only one of the four processors is being accessed. All coprocessors are working... Added to this disturbing reading (and maybe I have misunderstood how quads work) Windows 7 reports on running the compatibility add-on that FM is INCOMPATIBLE with windows 7. It tries to run it under the XP shell, but that makes FM very slow. My feeling is that FM9 was designed for Vista and nobody bothered to fix it after windows 7 was introduced. The last patch was two years ago. I know there are a lot of people out there who have the same issues. Plus, there are some shocking reviews. Rob Shell FM9 p255 4 gigs ram quad 3 terabyte drives OS Windows 7 with every update. Rob Shell Windows Seven FrameMaker 9 patched 4 GB RAM 3 TB hd ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as rob...@lauriston.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/robert%40lauriston .com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as jsgamm...@imprivata.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jsgammato%40imprivata.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FM 9p255 only uses 25% of CPU no matter what
I am on Win7-64 and have very few problems except for one: If I update a book and book file that had been compressed in the directory, then the book file causes a crash. If I open it and save it alone, the problem goes away. -Original Message- From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 2:12 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: FM 9p255 only uses 25% of CPU no matter what Win7 32 or 64? I've encountered many compatibility problems with the latter, would switch to 32 if it wasn't such a pain. On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Rob Shell wrote: > Hi Framers: > I have taken to watching FM9 crash using task manager and winternals. > What struck me is that no matter what load was put on FM9, it never > used more than 25% of the CPU. It hovered at 24.9 but never above. > Does that means only one of the four processors is being accessed. All > coprocessors are working... > Added to this disturbing reading (and maybe I have misunderstood how > quads > work) Windows 7 reports on running the compatibility add-on that FM is > "INCOMPATIBLE" with windows 7. > It tries to run it under the XP shell, but that makes FM very slow. > My feeling is that FM9 was designed for Vista and nobody bothered to > fix it after windows 7 was introduced. > The last patch was two years ago. I know there are a lot of people out > there who have the same issues. > Plus, there are some shocking reviews. > > Rob Shell > FM9 p255 > 4 gigs ram quad > 3 terabyte drives > OS Windows 7 with every update. > > >> > > Rob Shell > Windows Seven > FrameMaker 9 patched > 4 GB RAM > 3 TB hd > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as robert at lauriston.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/robert%40lauriston > .com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as jsgammato at imprivata.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jsgammato%40imprivata.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FM 9p255 only uses 25% of CPU no matter what
Hi Framers: I have taken to watching FM9 crash using task manager and winternals. What struck me is that no matter what load was put on FM9, it never used more than 25% of the CPU. It hovered at 24.9 but never above. Does that means only one of the four processors is being accessed. All coprocessors are working... Added to this disturbing reading (and maybe I have misunderstood how quads work) Windows 7 reports on running the compatibility add-on that FM is INCOMPATIBLE with windows 7. It tries to run it under the XP shell, but that makes FM very slow. My feeling is that FM9 was designed for Vista and nobody bothered to fix it after windows 7 was introduced. The last patch was two years ago. I know there are a lot of people out there who have the same issues. Plus, there are some shocking reviews. Rob Shell FM9 p255 4 gigs ram quad 3 terabyte drives OS Windows 7 with every update. Rob Shell Windows Seven FrameMaker 9 patched 4 GB RAM 3 TB hd ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FM 9p255 only uses 25% of CPU no matter what
Rob Shell wrote: I have taken to watching FM9 crash using task manager and winternals. What struck me is that no matter what load was put on FM9, it never used more than 25% of the CPU. It hovered at 24.9 but never above. Does that means only one of the four processors is being accessed. All coprocessors are working... It means that exactly. FM doesn't use multiple processors. Why does that disturb you? Many, many apps (even current releases) don't take advantage of multiple processors, or of only two (2 or 4 threads). There's little to be gained unless you're doing heavy graphics or video work. Your other processors are available to the other apps you're running at the same time. Added to this disturbing reading (and maybe I have misunderstood how quads work) Windows 7 reports on running the compatibility add-on that FM is INCOMPATIBLE with windows 7. It tries to run it under the XP shell, but that makes FM very slow. My feeling is that FM9 was designed for Vista and nobody bothered to fix it after windows 7 was introduced. The last patch was two years ago. I know there are a lot of people out there who have the same issues. FM 9 was released almost a year before Windows 7. FM 10, released more than a year ago, is compatible with Windows 7. But I wouldn't rush to upgrade, because FM 11 will likely be announced soon. It's unrealistic and unreasonable, IMHO, to expect Adobe to release an FM 9.x version that's Windows 7 compatible, or to fix anything other than security issues or other serious bugs. Plus, there are some shocking reviews. None recent, I'd guess, since it's 3+ years old. Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-903-6372 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM 9p255 only uses 25% of CPU no matter what
Hi Rob, FM9 is compatible with Win7 and I don't see any reason why it runs in WinXP compatibility mode on your PC. Framemaker 9 crashes because it is buggy. I would call it a beta version of Framemaker with the new interface. When I upgraded to FMv10, all the stability issues that you describe almost disappeared. I can't say that FMv10 does not crash at all, but it does so very rarely. HTH, Roman From: Rob Shell rsh...@iafrica.com To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 6:58 PM Subject: FM 9p255 only uses 25% of CPU no matter what Hi Framers: I have taken to watching FM9 crash using task manager and winternals. What struck me is that no matter what load was put on FM9, it never used more than 25% of the CPU. It hovered at 24.9 but never above. Does that means only one of the four processors is being accessed. All coprocessors are working... Added to this disturbing reading (and maybe I have misunderstood how quads work) Windows 7 reports on running the compatibility add-on that FM is INCOMPATIBLE with windows 7. It tries to run it under the XP shell, but that makes FM very slow. My feeling is that FM9 was designed for Vista and nobody bothered to fix it after windows 7 was introduced. The last patch was two years ago. I know there are a lot of people out there who have the same issues. Plus, there are some shocking reviews. Rob Shell FM9 p255 4 gigs ram quad 3 terabyte drives OS Windows 7 with every update. Rob Shell Windows Seven FrameMaker 9 patched 4 GB RAM 3 TB hd ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as banks_ro...@yahoo.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/banks_roman%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM 9p255 only uses 25% of CPU no matter what
Win7 32 or 64? I've encountered many compatibility problems with the latter, would switch to 32 if it wasn't such a pain. On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Rob Shell rsh...@iafrica.com wrote: Hi Framers: I have taken to watching FM9 crash using task manager and winternals. What struck me is that no matter what load was put on FM9, it never used more than 25% of the CPU. It hovered at 24.9 but never above. Does that means only one of the four processors is being accessed. All coprocessors are working... Added to this disturbing reading (and maybe I have misunderstood how quads work) Windows 7 reports on running the compatibility add-on that FM is INCOMPATIBLE with windows 7. It tries to run it under the XP shell, but that makes FM very slow. My feeling is that FM9 was designed for Vista and nobody bothered to fix it after windows 7 was introduced. The last patch was two years ago. I know there are a lot of people out there who have the same issues. Plus, there are some shocking reviews. Rob Shell FM9 p255 4 gigs ram quad 3 terabyte drives OS Windows 7 with every update. Rob Shell Windows Seven FrameMaker 9 patched 4 GB RAM 3 TB hd ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as rob...@lauriston.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/robert%40lauriston.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FM 9p255 only uses 25% of CPU no matter what
Hi Framers: I have taken to watching FM9 crash using task manager and winternals. What struck me is that no matter what load was put on FM9, it never used more than 25% of the CPU. It hovered at 24.9 but never above. Does that means only one of the four processors is being accessed. All coprocessors are working... Added to this disturbing reading (and maybe I have misunderstood how quads work) Windows 7 reports on running the compatibility add-on that FM is "INCOMPATIBLE" with windows 7. It tries to run it under the XP shell, but that makes FM very slow. My feeling is that FM9 was designed for Vista and nobody bothered to fix it after windows 7 was introduced. The last patch was two years ago. I know there are a lot of people out there who have the same issues. Plus, there are some shocking reviews. Rob Shell FM9 p255 4 gigs ram quad 3 terabyte drives OS Windows 7 with every update. > Rob Shell Windows Seven FrameMaker 9 patched 4 GB RAM 3 TB hd
FM 9p255 only uses 25% of CPU no matter what
Rob Shell wrote: I have taken to watching FM9 crash using task manager and winternals. > What struck me is that no matter what load was put on FM9, it never > used > more than 25% of the CPU. It hovered at 24.9 but never above. > Does that means only one of the four processors is being accessed. All > coprocessors are working... It means that exactly. FM doesn't use multiple processors. Why does that disturb you? Many, many apps (even current releases) don't take advantage of multiple processors, or of only two (2 or 4 threads). There's little to be gained unless you're doing heavy graphics or video work. Your other processors are available to the other apps you're running at the same time. > Added to this disturbing reading (and maybe I have misunderstood how > quads > work) Windows 7 reports on running the compatibility add-on that FM is > "INCOMPATIBLE" with windows 7. > It tries to run it under the XP shell, but that makes FM very slow. > My feeling is that FM9 was designed for Vista and nobody bothered to > fix it > after windows 7 was introduced. > The last patch was two years ago. I know there are a lot of people out > there > who have the same issues. FM 9 was released almost a year before Windows 7. FM 10, released more than a year ago, is compatible with Windows 7. But I wouldn't rush to upgrade, because FM 11 will likely be announced soon. It's unrealistic and unreasonable, IMHO, to expect Adobe to release an FM 9.x version that's Windows 7 compatible, or to fix anything other than security issues or other serious bugs. > Plus, there are some shocking reviews. None recent, I'd guess, since it's 3+ years old. Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-903-6372 --
FM 9p255 only uses 25% of CPU no matter what
Hi Rob, ? FM9 is compatible with Win7 and I don't see any reason why it runs in WinXP compatibility mode on your PC.?Framemaker 9?crashes because it is buggy. I would?call it a "beta version of Framemaker with the new interface". When?I upgraded to FMv10, all?the stability issues that you describe almost disappeared. I?can't say that FMv10 does not crash at all, but it does so very rarely. ? HTH, Roman From: Rob Shell <rsh...@iafrica.com> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 6:58 PM Subject: FM 9p255 only uses 25% of CPU no matter what Hi Framers: I have taken to watching FM9 crash using task manager and winternals. What struck me is that no matter what load was put on FM9, it never used more than 25% of the CPU. It hovered at 24.9 but never above. Does that means only one of the four processors is being accessed. All coprocessors are working... Added to this disturbing reading (and maybe I have misunderstood how quads work) Windows 7 reports on running the compatibility add-on that FM is "INCOMPATIBLE" with windows 7. It tries to run it under the XP shell, but that makes FM very slow. My feeling is that FM9 was designed for Vista and nobody bothered to fix it after windows 7 was introduced. The last patch was two years ago. I know there are a lot of people out there who have the same issues. Plus, there are some shocking reviews. Rob Shell FM9 p255 4 gigs ram quad 3 terabyte drives OS Windows 7 with every update. > Rob Shell Windows Seven FrameMaker 9 patched 4 GB RAM 3 TB hd ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as banks_roman at yahoo.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/banks_roman%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20120327/f47cbb88/attachment.html>
FM 9p255 only uses 25% of CPU no matter what
Win7 32 or 64? I've encountered many compatibility problems with the latter, would switch to 32 if it wasn't such a pain. On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Rob Shell wrote: > Hi Framers: > I have taken to watching FM9 crash using task manager and winternals. > What struck me is that no matter what load was put on FM9, it never used > more than 25% of the CPU. It hovered at 24.9 but never above. > Does that means only one of the four processors is being accessed. All > coprocessors are working... > Added to this disturbing reading (and maybe I have misunderstood how quads > work) Windows 7 reports on running the compatibility add-on that FM is > "INCOMPATIBLE" with windows 7. > It tries to run it under the XP shell, but that makes FM very slow. > My feeling is that FM9 was designed for Vista and nobody bothered to fix it > after windows 7 was introduced. > The last patch was two years ago. I know there are a lot of people out there > who have the same issues. > Plus, there are some shocking reviews. > > Rob Shell > FM9 p255 > 4 gigs ram quad > 3 terabyte drives > OS Windows 7 with every update. > > >> > > Rob Shell > Windows Seven > FrameMaker 9 patched > 4 GB RAM > 3 TB hd > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as robert at lauriston.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/robert%40lauriston.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.