Re: Frame crashes when trying to generate output from DITA map... (cross posting)
Thanks again Scott! Yes, I've installed OT (properly or not-don't know) and sundry other components... Apache... JDK .. Java Help etc and have made the changes in system variables. Apart from this, the files we need to copy in various locations... DLLs ...ant sctips.. project.xml etc... and yes, Dita Options are pointing to the right locations. When I start Frame, I get the message that two of the (OT related) components are loaded. I am trying to generate output from the ditafm.ditamap file... haven't created my own yet. The problem is if I have nothing open... and just select Generate Output then also it crashes! Anyway, as I mentioned... I am doing it all over again on my colleagues PC. Hoping it will work this time. Thanks for your patience! :) Cheers, Gyanesh On 6/7/07, Scott Prentice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Gyanesh... Sorry .. I misunderstood which function you were using. I thought you were using the Build FM book from ditamap (yeah, I know you clearly said the Generate Output command). What happens if you save the map before running the Generate Output command? It only asks to save if the file was unsaved. Also, you can say No to the OK to save dialog .. try that as well. feel free to send me your files .. it's possible that there's something in your ditamap that the system doesn't like. Something else to check .. In the DITA Options dialog, do you have the Topic, Map, and Book structure application assigned properly to the corresponding options? When you start Frame, do you get any messages in the console window? Many people are successfully generating HTML and CHM output through the App Pack .. however, this requires that you have the DITA Open Toolkit installed properly as well (this is no small task). All the Generate Output command does is pass some parameters off to the OT, there is no CHM or HTML output processing provided with the App Pack. You may want to sign up for the framemaker-dita Yahoo group (http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/framemaker-dita/), since that's the forum where these things are discussed more regularly. ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Gyanesh Talwar wrote: Hey Scott.. thanks again. And sorry, I didn't see your earlier message earlier. But, I am afraid, the patch hasn't solved my problem. I just have to say Generate Output and I hear that loud thud... everytime! I am trying to implement DITA on my colleagues machine. But guys, is there's anyone out there who has worked with DITA application pack successfully to generate CHMs or HTML? I am asking because I shared this problem with someone in the Frame development team... and the response wasn't very encouraging. This person just asked me to go for the 8 beta, as it has integrated DITA support... one doesn't need to grapple with the Application pack. Regards, Gyanesh On 6/5/07, Scott Prentice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Gyanesh... I responded to your last posting, but just in case you didn't get it .. you should install the latest FM update (7.2p158). I have seen some odd problems with the version you're using. http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=22platform=Windows ...scott Gyanesh Talwar wrote: Hi All, Sorry for cross posting... but this is urgent... so I am cross posting this to Framers as well as the DITA+Frame yahoogroup. 7.2b144 OT 1.2.2 I have setup DITA and am trying to generate output from the test example, as explained in Adobe's Using the DITA OT with Frame Application Pack for DITA PDF. However, as soon as I say Generate Output, Frame asks to save the Ditamap file and Crashes … citing 7204, 6109890, and 7778516, 0. I even tried reallocating more space to my C to provide Frame more room, but it did not help. Anyone else also encountered this? Will uninstalling Framescript and other plugins help? Thanks in Advance, Gyanesh -- Gyanesh Talwar |~~^~~^~~~^~~^~~| Bunbu Itchi |~~^~~^~~~^~~^~~| ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Frame crashes when trying to generate output from DITA map... (cross posting)
It worked! I can create CHM and HTML now. Just implemented the same things on a fresh machine. I tried the tutorial example, as well as created a new DITAMAP. On my machine, it's probably conflicting with other DLLs, as I have other plug-ins installed. My next worry: the number of elements in DITA are too many. Can I just go and delete un-necessary elements? Regards, Gyanesh On 6/7/07, Gyanesh Talwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks again Scott! Yes, I've installed OT (properly or not-don't know) and sundry other components... Apache... JDK .. Java Help etc and have made the changes in system variables. Apart from this, the files we need to copy in various locations... DLLs ...ant sctips.. project.xml etc... and yes, Dita Options are pointing to the right locations. When I start Frame, I get the message that two of the (OT related) components are loaded. I am trying to generate output from the ditafm.ditamap file... haven't created my own yet. The problem is if I have nothing open... and just select Generate Output then also it crashes! Anyway, as I mentioned... I am doing it all over again on my colleagues PC. Hoping it will work this time. Thanks for your patience! :) Cheers, Gyanesh On 6/7/07, Scott Prentice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Gyanesh... Sorry .. I misunderstood which function you were using. I thought you were using the Build FM book from ditamap (yeah, I know you clearly said the Generate Output command). What happens if you save the map before running the Generate Output command? It only asks to save if the file was unsaved. Also, you can say No to the OK to save dialog .. try that as well. feel free to send me your files .. it's possible that there's something in your ditamap that the system doesn't like. Something else to check .. In the DITA Options dialog, do you have the Topic, Map, and Book structure application assigned properly to the corresponding options? When you start Frame, do you get any messages in the console window? Many people are successfully generating HTML and CHM output through the App Pack .. however, this requires that you have the DITA Open Toolkit installed properly as well (this is no small task). All the Generate Output command does is pass some parameters off to the OT, there is no CHM or HTML output processing provided with the App Pack. You may want to sign up for the framemaker-dita Yahoo group (http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/framemaker-dita/), since that's the forum where these things are discussed more regularly. ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Gyanesh Talwar wrote: Hey Scott.. thanks again. And sorry, I didn't see your earlier message earlier. But, I am afraid, the patch hasn't solved my problem. I just have to say Generate Output and I hear that loud thud... everytime! I am trying to implement DITA on my colleagues machine. But guys, is there's anyone out there who has worked with DITA application pack successfully to generate CHMs or HTML? I am asking because I shared this problem with someone in the Frame development team... and the response wasn't very encouraging. This person just asked me to go for the 8 beta, as it has integrated DITA support... one doesn't need to grapple with the Application pack. Regards, Gyanesh On 6/5/07, Scott Prentice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Gyanesh... I responded to your last posting, but just in case you didn't get it .. you should install the latest FM update (7.2p158). I have seen some odd problems with the version you're using. http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=22platform=Windows ...scott Gyanesh Talwar wrote: Hi All, Sorry for cross posting... but this is urgent... so I am cross posting this to Framers as well as the DITA+Frame yahoogroup. 7.2b144 OT 1.2.2 I have setup DITA and am trying to generate output from the test example, as explained in Adobe's Using the DITA OT with Frame Application Pack for DITA PDF. However, as soon as I say Generate Output, Frame asks to save the Ditamap file and Crashes … citing 7204, 6109890, and 7778516, 0. I even tried reallocating more space to my C to provide Frame more room, but it did not help. Anyone else also encountered this? Will uninstalling Framescript and other plugins help? Thanks in Advance, Gyanesh -- Gyanesh Talwar |~~^~~^~~~^~~^~~| Bunbu Itchi |~~^~~^~~~^~~^~~| -- Gyanesh Talwar |~~^~~^~~~^~~^~~| Bunbu Itchi |~~^~~^~~~^~~^~~| ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit
Re: Frame crashes when trying to generate output from DITA map... (cross posting)
Hmm .. that sounds like a bug. The idea with the Generate Output command is that it generates output from the current file (map or topic). If you have no file open, it *should* tell you that no file is open when you choose the Build button. I'm wondering if you have some document open invisibly and that's confusing things (I'll do some testing to see if I can get it to break). However, in the future, you should open a file first, then run the command. ...scott Gyanesh Talwar wrote: Thanks again Scott! Yes, I've installed OT (properly or not-don't know) and sundry other components... Apache... JDK .. Java Help etc and have made the changes in system variables. Apart from this, the files we need to copy in various locations... DLLs ...ant sctips.. project.xml etc... and yes, Dita Options are pointing to the right locations. When I start Frame, I get the message that two of the (OT related) components are loaded. I am trying to generate output from the ditafm.ditamap file... haven't created my own yet. The problem is if I have nothing open... and just select Generate Output then also it crashes! Anyway, as I mentioned... I am doing it all over again on my colleagues PC. Hoping it will work this time. Thanks for your patience! :) Cheers, Gyanesh On 6/7/07, Scott Prentice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Gyanesh... Sorry .. I misunderstood which function you were using. I thought you were using the Build FM book from ditamap (yeah, I know you clearly said the Generate Output command). What happens if you save the map before running the Generate Output command? It only asks to save if the file was unsaved. Also, you can say No to the OK to save dialog .. try that as well. feel free to send me your files .. it's possible that there's something in your ditamap that the system doesn't like. Something else to check .. In the DITA Options dialog, do you have the Topic, Map, and Book structure application assigned properly to the corresponding options? When you start Frame, do you get any messages in the console window? Many people are successfully generating HTML and CHM output through the App Pack .. however, this requires that you have the DITA Open Toolkit installed properly as well (this is no small task). All the Generate Output command does is pass some parameters off to the OT, there is no CHM or HTML output processing provided with the App Pack. You may want to sign up for the framemaker-dita Yahoo group (http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/framemaker-dita/), since that's the forum where these things are discussed more regularly. ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Gyanesh Talwar wrote: Hey Scott.. thanks again. And sorry, I didn't see your earlier message earlier. But, I am afraid, the patch hasn't solved my problem. I just have to say Generate Output and I hear that loud thud... everytime! I am trying to implement DITA on my colleagues machine. But guys, is there's anyone out there who has worked with DITA application pack successfully to generate CHMs or HTML? I am asking because I shared this problem with someone in the Frame development team... and the response wasn't very encouraging. This person just asked me to go for the 8 beta, as it has integrated DITA support... one doesn't need to grapple with the Application pack. Regards, Gyanesh On 6/5/07, Scott Prentice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Gyanesh... I responded to your last posting, but just in case you didn't get it .. you should install the latest FM update (7.2p158). I have seen some odd problems with the version you're using. http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=22platform=Windows ...scott Gyanesh Talwar wrote: Hi All, Sorry for cross posting... but this is urgent... so I am cross posting this to Framers as well as the DITA+Frame yahoogroup. 7.2b144 OT 1.2.2 I have setup DITA and am trying to generate output from the test example, as explained in Adobe's Using the DITA OT with Frame Application Pack for DITA PDF. However, as soon as I say Generate Output, Frame asks to save the Ditamap file and Crashes … citing 7204, 6109890, and 7778516, 0. I even tried reallocating more space to my C to provide Frame more room, but it did not help. Anyone else also encountered this? Will uninstalling Framescript and other plugins help? Thanks in Advance, Gyanesh ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Frame crashes when trying to generate output from DITA map... (cross posting)
Can you tell me which other plugins you've got installed? I'd like to try to resolve any conflicts. You can .. carefully .. delete elements from the EDD (just be sure to delete them from the general rules as well). It's best to clone the default structure applications and make your tweaks there. If you do trim down the data model, be aware that if you try to open other DITA files that have the elements you've removed from your EDD, you'll run into trouble. Rather than deleting elements, you might want to look into specializing the topic (or other topic-based container .. concept, task, reference) into a topic that only makes use of the elements that you want to use. This will keep things completely DITA-compliant. You may already have things set up this way, but just in case .. it's good practice to only allow the valid elements to be visible in the Element Catalog. To do this choose the Options button at the bottom of the Element Catalog window, and select the first option (Valid elements for working start to finish). This will keep the list of available elements to a minimum. ...scott Gyanesh Talwar wrote: It worked! I can create CHM and HTML now. Just implemented the same things on a fresh machine. I tried the tutorial example, as well as created a new DITAMAP. On my machine, it's probably conflicting with other DLLs, as I have other plug-ins installed. My next worry: the number of elements in DITA are too many. Can I just go and delete un-necessary elements? Regards, Gyanesh On 6/7/07, Gyanesh Talwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks again Scott! Yes, I've installed OT (properly or not-don't know) and sundry other components... Apache... JDK .. Java Help etc and have made the changes in system variables. Apart from this, the files we need to copy in various locations... DLLs ...ant sctips.. project.xml etc... and yes, Dita Options are pointing to the right locations. When I start Frame, I get the message that two of the (OT related) components are loaded. I am trying to generate output from the ditafm.ditamap file... haven't created my own yet. The problem is if I have nothing open... and just select Generate Output then also it crashes! Anyway, as I mentioned... I am doing it all over again on my colleagues PC. Hoping it will work this time. Thanks for your patience! :) Cheers, Gyanesh On 6/7/07, Scott Prentice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Gyanesh... Sorry .. I misunderstood which function you were using. I thought you were using the Build FM book from ditamap (yeah, I know you clearly said the Generate Output command). What happens if you save the map before running the Generate Output command? It only asks to save if the file was unsaved. Also, you can say No to the OK to save dialog .. try that as well. feel free to send me your files .. it's possible that there's something in your ditamap that the system doesn't like. Something else to check .. In the DITA Options dialog, do you have the Topic, Map, and Book structure application assigned properly to the corresponding options? When you start Frame, do you get any messages in the console window? Many people are successfully generating HTML and CHM output through the App Pack .. however, this requires that you have the DITA Open Toolkit installed properly as well (this is no small task). All the Generate Output command does is pass some parameters off to the OT, there is no CHM or HTML output processing provided with the App Pack. You may want to sign up for the framemaker-dita Yahoo group (http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/framemaker-dita/), since that's the forum where these things are discussed more regularly. ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Gyanesh Talwar wrote: Hey Scott.. thanks again. And sorry, I didn't see your earlier message earlier. But, I am afraid, the patch hasn't solved my problem. I just have to say Generate Output and I hear that loud thud... everytime! I am trying to implement DITA on my colleagues machine. But guys, is there's anyone out there who has worked with DITA application pack successfully to generate CHMs or HTML? I am asking because I shared this problem with someone in the Frame development team... and the response wasn't very encouraging. This person just asked me to go for the 8 beta, as it has integrated DITA support... one doesn't need to grapple with the Application pack. Regards, Gyanesh On 6/5/07, Scott Prentice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Gyanesh... I responded to your last posting, but just in case you didn't get it .. you should install the latest FM update (7.2p158). I have seen some odd problems with the version you're using. http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=22platform=Windows ...scott Gyanesh Talwar wrote: Hi All, Sorry for cross posting... but this is urgent... so I
Frame crashes when trying to generate output from DITA map... (cross posting)
Hey Scott.. thanks again. And sorry, I didn't see your earlier message earlier. But, I am afraid, the patch hasn't solved my problem. I just have to say "Generate Output" and I hear that loud thud... everytime! I am trying to implement DITA on my colleagues machine. But guys, is there's anyone out there who has worked with DITA application pack successfully to generate CHMs or HTML? I am asking because I shared this problem with someone in the Frame development team... and the response wasn't very encouraging. This person just asked me to go for the 8 beta, as it has integrated DITA support... one doesn't need to grapple with the Application pack. Regards, Gyanesh On 6/5/07, Scott Prentice wrote: > Hi Gyanesh... > > I responded to your last posting, but just in case you didn't get it .. > you should install the latest FM update (7.2p158). I have seen some odd > problems with the version you're using. > > > http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=22=Windows > > ...scott > > > Gyanesh Talwar wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > Sorry for cross posting... but this is urgent... so I am cross posting > > this to Framers as well as the DITA+Frame yahoogroup. > > > > 7.2b144 > > OT 1.2.2 > > > > I have setup DITA and am trying to generate output from the "test" > > example, as explained in Adobe's "Using the DITA OT with Frame > > Application Pack for DITA" PDF. > > > > However, as soon as I say Generate Output, Frame asks to save the > > Ditamap file and Crashes ? citing "7204, 6109890, and 7778516, 0." > > > > I even tried reallocating more space to my C to provide Frame more > > room, but it did not help. > > > > Anyone else also encountered this? Will uninstalling Framescript and > > other plugins help? > > > > Thanks in Advance, > > > > Gyanesh > > > > -- Gyanesh Talwar |~~^~~^~~~^~~^~~| "Bunbu Itchi" |~~^~~^~~~^~~^~~|
Frame crashes when trying to generate output from DITA map... (cross posting)
Thanks again Scott! Yes, I've installed OT (properly or not-don't know) and sundry other components... Apache... JDK .. Java Help etc and have made the changes in system variables. Apart from this, the files we need to copy in various locations... DLLs ...ant sctips.. project.xml etc... and yes, Dita Options are pointing to the right locations. When I start Frame, I get the message that two of the (OT related) components are loaded. I am trying to generate output from the "ditafm.ditamap" file... haven't created my own yet. The problem is if I have nothing open... and just select "Generate Output" then also it crashes! Anyway, as I mentioned... I am doing it all over again on my colleagues PC. Hoping it will work this time. Thanks for your patience! :) Cheers, Gyanesh On 6/7/07, Scott Prentice wrote: > Hi Gyanesh... > > Sorry .. I misunderstood which function you were using. I thought you > were using the "Build FM book from ditamap" (yeah, I know you clearly > said the "Generate Output" command). What happens if you save the map > before running the Generate Output command? It only asks to save if the > file was unsaved. Also, you can say "No" to the "OK to save" dialog .. > try that as well. feel free to send me your files .. it's possible that > there's something in your ditamap that the system doesn't like. > > Something else to check .. In the DITA Options dialog, do you have the > Topic, Map, and Book structure application assigned properly to the > corresponding options? When you start Frame, do you get any messages in > the console window? > > Many people are successfully generating HTML and CHM output through the > App Pack .. however, this requires that you have the DITA Open Toolkit > installed properly as well (this is no small task). All the Generate > Output command does is pass some parameters off to the OT, there is no > CHM or HTML output processing provided with the App Pack. > > You may want to sign up for the framemaker-dita Yahoo group > (http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/framemaker-dita/), since that's the > forum where these things are discussed more regularly. > > ...scott > > Scott Prentice > Leximation, Inc. > www.leximation.com > +1.415.485.1892 > > > > Gyanesh Talwar wrote: > > Hey Scott.. thanks again. > > > > And sorry, I didn't see your earlier message earlier. > > > > But, I am afraid, the patch hasn't solved my problem. I just have to > > say "Generate Output" and I hear that loud thud... everytime! > > > > I am trying to implement DITA on my colleagues machine. > > > > But guys, is there's anyone out there who has worked with DITA > > application pack successfully to generate CHMs or HTML? I am asking > > because I shared this problem with someone in the Frame development > > team... and the response wasn't very encouraging. This person just > > asked me to go for the 8 beta, as it has integrated DITA support... > > one doesn't need to grapple with the Application pack. > > > > Regards, > > Gyanesh > > > > On 6/5/07, Scott Prentice wrote: > >> Hi Gyanesh... > >> > >> I responded to your last posting, but just in case you didn't get it .. > >> you should install the latest FM update (7.2p158). I have seen some odd > >> problems with the version you're using. > >> > >> > >> http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=22=Windows > >> > >> > >> ...scott > >> > >> > >> Gyanesh Talwar wrote: > >> > Hi All, > >> > > >> > Sorry for cross posting... but this is urgent... so I am cross posting > >> > this to Framers as well as the DITA+Frame yahoogroup. > >> > > >> > 7.2b144 > >> > OT 1.2.2 > >> > > >> > I have setup DITA and am trying to generate output from the "test" > >> > example, as explained in Adobe's "Using the DITA OT with Frame > >> > Application Pack for DITA" PDF. > >> > > >> > However, as soon as I say Generate Output, Frame asks to save the > >> > Ditamap file and Crashes ? citing "7204, 6109890, and 7778516, 0." > >> > > >> > I even tried reallocating more space to my C to provide Frame more > >> > room, but it did not help. > >> > > >> > Anyone else also encountered this? Will uninstalling Framescript and > >> > other plugins help? > >> > > >> > Thanks in Advance, > >> > > >> > Gyanesh > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > -- Gyanesh Talwar |~~^~~^~~~^~~^~~| "Bunbu Itchi" |~~^~~^~~~^~~^~~|
Frame crashes when trying to generate output from DITA map... (cross posting)
It worked! I can create CHM and HTML now. Just implemented the same things on a fresh machine. I tried the tutorial example, as well as created a new DITAMAP. On my machine, it's probably conflicting with other DLLs, as I have other plug-ins installed. My next worry: the number of elements in DITA are too many. Can I just go and delete un-necessary elements? Regards, Gyanesh On 6/7/07, Gyanesh Talwar wrote: > Thanks again Scott! > > Yes, I've installed OT (properly or not-don't know) and sundry other > components... Apache... JDK .. Java Help etc and have made the changes > in system variables. > > Apart from this, the files we need to copy in various locations... > DLLs ...ant sctips.. project.xml etc... and yes, Dita Options are > pointing to the right locations. > > When I start Frame, I get the message that two of the (OT related) > components are loaded. > > I am trying to generate output from the "ditafm.ditamap" file... > haven't created my own yet. The problem is if I have nothing open... > and just select "Generate Output" then also it crashes! > > Anyway, as I mentioned... I am doing it all over again on my > colleagues PC. Hoping it will work this time. > > Thanks for your patience! :) > > Cheers, > Gyanesh > > > > On 6/7/07, Scott Prentice wrote: > > Hi Gyanesh... > > > > Sorry .. I misunderstood which function you were using. I thought you > > were using the "Build FM book from ditamap" (yeah, I know you clearly > > said the "Generate Output" command). What happens if you save the map > > before running the Generate Output command? It only asks to save if the > > file was unsaved. Also, you can say "No" to the "OK to save" dialog .. > > try that as well. feel free to send me your files .. it's possible that > > there's something in your ditamap that the system doesn't like. > > > > Something else to check .. In the DITA Options dialog, do you have the > > Topic, Map, and Book structure application assigned properly to the > > corresponding options? When you start Frame, do you get any messages in > > the console window? > > > > Many people are successfully generating HTML and CHM output through the > > App Pack .. however, this requires that you have the DITA Open Toolkit > > installed properly as well (this is no small task). All the Generate > > Output command does is pass some parameters off to the OT, there is no > > CHM or HTML output processing provided with the App Pack. > > > > You may want to sign up for the framemaker-dita Yahoo group > > (http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/framemaker-dita/), since that's the > > forum where these things are discussed more regularly. > > > > ...scott > > > > Scott Prentice > > Leximation, Inc. > > www.leximation.com > > +1.415.485.1892 > > > > > > > > Gyanesh Talwar wrote: > > > Hey Scott.. thanks again. > > > > > > And sorry, I didn't see your earlier message earlier. > > > > > > But, I am afraid, the patch hasn't solved my problem. I just have to > > > say "Generate Output" and I hear that loud thud... everytime! > > > > > > I am trying to implement DITA on my colleagues machine. > > > > > > But guys, is there's anyone out there who has worked with DITA > > > application pack successfully to generate CHMs or HTML? I am asking > > > because I shared this problem with someone in the Frame development > > > team... and the response wasn't very encouraging. This person just > > > asked me to go for the 8 beta, as it has integrated DITA support... > > > one doesn't need to grapple with the Application pack. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Gyanesh > > > > > > On 6/5/07, Scott Prentice wrote: > > >> Hi Gyanesh... > > >> > > >> I responded to your last posting, but just in case you didn't get it .. > > >> you should install the latest FM update (7.2p158). I have seen some odd > > >> problems with the version you're using. > > >> > > >> > > >> http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=22=Windows > > >> > > >> > > >> ...scott > > >> > > >> > > >> Gyanesh Talwar wrote: > > >> > Hi All, > > >> > > > >> > Sorry for cross posting... but this is urgent... so I am cross posting > > >> > this to Framers as well as the DITA+Frame yahoogroup. > > >> > > > >> > 7.2b144 > > >> > OT 1.2.2 > > >> > > > >> > I have setup DITA and am trying to generate output from the "test" > > >> > example, as explained in Adobe's "Using the DITA OT with Frame > > >> > Application Pack for DITA" PDF. > > >> > > > >> > However, as soon as I say Generate Output, Frame asks to save the > > >> > Ditamap file and Crashes ? citing "7204, 6109890, and 7778516, 0." > > >> > > > >> > I even tried reallocating more space to my C to provide Frame more > > >> > room, but it did not help. > > >> > > > >> > Anyone else also encountered this? Will uninstalling Framescript and > > >> > other plugins help? > > >> > > > >> > Thanks in Advance, > > >> > > > >> > Gyanesh > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Gyanesh Talwar > |~~^~~^~~~^~~^~~| >"Bunbu Itchi" >
Frame crashes when trying to generate output from DITA map... (cross posting)
Hmm .. that sounds like a bug. The idea with the Generate Output command is that it generates output from the "current" file (map or topic). If you have no file open, it *should* tell you that no file is open when you choose the Build button. I'm wondering if you have some document open invisibly and that's confusing things (I'll do some testing to see if I can get it to break). However, in the future, you should open a file first, then run the command. ...scott Gyanesh Talwar wrote: > Thanks again Scott! > > Yes, I've installed OT (properly or not-don't know) and sundry other > components... Apache... JDK .. Java Help etc and have made the changes > in system variables. > > Apart from this, the files we need to copy in various locations... > DLLs ...ant sctips.. project.xml etc... and yes, Dita Options are > pointing to the right locations. > > When I start Frame, I get the message that two of the (OT related) > components are loaded. > > I am trying to generate output from the "ditafm.ditamap" file... > haven't created my own yet. The problem is if I have nothing open... > and just select "Generate Output" then also it crashes! > > Anyway, as I mentioned... I am doing it all over again on my > colleagues PC. Hoping it will work this time. > > Thanks for your patience! :) > > Cheers, > Gyanesh > > > > On 6/7/07, Scott Prentice wrote: >> Hi Gyanesh... >> >> Sorry .. I misunderstood which function you were using. I thought you >> were using the "Build FM book from ditamap" (yeah, I know you clearly >> said the "Generate Output" command). What happens if you save the map >> before running the Generate Output command? It only asks to save if the >> file was unsaved. Also, you can say "No" to the "OK to save" dialog .. >> try that as well. feel free to send me your files .. it's possible that >> there's something in your ditamap that the system doesn't like. >> >> Something else to check .. In the DITA Options dialog, do you have the >> Topic, Map, and Book structure application assigned properly to the >> corresponding options? When you start Frame, do you get any messages in >> the console window? >> >> Many people are successfully generating HTML and CHM output through the >> App Pack .. however, this requires that you have the DITA Open Toolkit >> installed properly as well (this is no small task). All the Generate >> Output command does is pass some parameters off to the OT, there is no >> CHM or HTML output processing provided with the App Pack. >> >> You may want to sign up for the framemaker-dita Yahoo group >> (http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/framemaker-dita/), since that's the >> forum where these things are discussed more regularly. >> >> ...scott >> >> Scott Prentice >> Leximation, Inc. >> www.leximation.com >> +1.415.485.1892 >> >> >> >> Gyanesh Talwar wrote: >> > Hey Scott.. thanks again. >> > >> > And sorry, I didn't see your earlier message earlier. >> > >> > But, I am afraid, the patch hasn't solved my problem. I just have to >> > say "Generate Output" and I hear that loud thud... everytime! >> > >> > I am trying to implement DITA on my colleagues machine. >> > >> > But guys, is there's anyone out there who has worked with DITA >> > application pack successfully to generate CHMs or HTML? I am asking >> > because I shared this problem with someone in the Frame development >> > team... and the response wasn't very encouraging. This person just >> > asked me to go for the 8 beta, as it has integrated DITA support... >> > one doesn't need to grapple with the Application pack. >> > >> > Regards, >> > Gyanesh >> > >> > On 6/5/07, Scott Prentice wrote: >> >> Hi Gyanesh... >> >> >> >> I responded to your last posting, but just in case you didn't get >> it .. >> >> you should install the latest FM update (7.2p158). I have seen >> some odd >> >> problems with the version you're using. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=22=Windows >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ...scott >> >> >> >> >> >> Gyanesh Talwar wrote: >> >> > Hi All, >> >> > >> >> > Sorry for cross posting... but this is urgent... so I am cross >> posting >> >> > this to Framers as well as the DITA+Frame yahoogroup. >> >> > >> >> > 7.2b144 >> >> > OT 1.2.2 >> >> > >> >> > I have setup DITA and am trying to generate output from the "test" >> >> > example, as explained in Adobe's "Using the DITA OT with Frame >> >> > Application Pack for DITA" PDF. >> >> > >> >> > However, as soon as I say Generate Output, Frame asks to save the >> >> > Ditamap file and Crashes ? citing "7204, 6109890, and 7778516, 0." >> >> > >> >> > I even tried reallocating more space to my C to provide Frame more >> >> > room, but it did not help. >> >> > >> >> > Anyone else also encountered this? Will uninstalling Framescript >> and >> >> > other plugins help? >> >> > >> >> > Thanks in Advance, >> >> > >> >> > Gyanesh >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > >
Frame crashes when trying to generate output from DITA map... (cross posting)
Can you tell me which other plugins you've got installed? I'd like to
try to resolve any conflicts.
You can .. carefully .. delete elements from the EDD (just be sure to
delete them from the general rules as well). It's best to clone the
default structure applications and make your tweaks there. If you do
trim down the data model, be aware that if you try to open other DITA
files that have the elements you've removed from your EDD, you'll run
into trouble.
Rather than deleting elements, you might want to look into specializing
the topic (or other topic-based container .. concept, task, reference)
into a "topic" that only makes use of the elements that you want to use.
This will keep things completely DITA-compliant.
You may already have things set up this way, but just in case .. it's
good practice to only allow the valid elements to be visible in the
Element Catalog. To do this choose the Options button at the bottom of
the Element Catalog window, and select the first option ("Valid elements
for working start to finish"). This will keep the list of available
elements to a minimum.
...scott
Gyanesh Talwar wrote:
> It worked! I can create CHM and HTML now.
>
> Just implemented the same things on a fresh machine.
>
> I tried the tutorial example, as well as created a new DITAMAP.
>
> On my machine, it's probably conflicting with other DLLs, as I have
> other plug-ins installed.
>
> My next worry: the number of elements in DITA are too many. Can I just
> go and delete un-necessary elements?
>
> Regards,
> Gyanesh
>
>
> On 6/7/07, Gyanesh Talwar wrote:
>> Thanks again Scott!
>>
>> Yes, I've installed OT (properly or not-don't know) and sundry other
>> components... Apache... JDK .. Java Help etc and have made the changes
>> in system variables.
>>
>> Apart from this, the files we need to copy in various locations...
>> DLLs ...ant sctips.. project.xml etc... and yes, Dita Options are
>> pointing to the right locations.
>>
>> When I start Frame, I get the message that two of the (OT related)
>> components are loaded.
>>
>> I am trying to generate output from the "ditafm.ditamap" file...
>> haven't created my own yet. The problem is if I have nothing open...
>> and just select "Generate Output" then also it crashes!
>>
>> Anyway, as I mentioned... I am doing it all over again on my
>> colleagues PC. Hoping it will work this time.
>>
>> Thanks for your patience! :)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Gyanesh
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/7/07, Scott Prentice wrote:
>> > Hi Gyanesh...
>> >
>> > Sorry .. I misunderstood which function you were using. I thought you
>> > were using the "Build FM book from ditamap" (yeah, I know you clearly
>> > said the "Generate Output" command). What happens if you save the map
>> > before running the Generate Output command? It only asks to save if
>> the
>> > file was unsaved. Also, you can say "No" to the "OK to save" dialog ..
>> > try that as well. feel free to send me your files .. it's possible
>> that
>> > there's something in your ditamap that the system doesn't like.
>> >
>> > Something else to check .. In the DITA Options dialog, do you have the
>> > Topic, Map, and Book structure application assigned properly to the
>> > corresponding options? When you start Frame, do you get any
>> messages in
>> > the console window?
>> >
>> > Many people are successfully generating HTML and CHM output through
>> the
>> > App Pack .. however, this requires that you have the DITA Open Toolkit
>> > installed properly as well (this is no small task). All the Generate
>> > Output command does is pass some parameters off to the OT, there is no
>> > CHM or HTML output processing provided with the App Pack.
>> >
>> > You may want to sign up for the framemaker-dita Yahoo group
>> > (http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/framemaker-dita/), since that's
>> the
>> > forum where these things are discussed more regularly.
>> >
>> > ...scott
>> >
>> > Scott Prentice
>> > Leximation, Inc.
>> > www.leximation.com
>> > +1.415.485.1892
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Gyanesh Talwar wrote:
>> > > Hey Scott.. thanks again.
>> > >
>> > > And sorry, I didn't see your earlier message earlier.
>> > >
>> > > But, I am afraid, the patch hasn't solved my problem. I just have to
>> > > say "Generate Output" and I hear that loud thud... everytime!
>> > >
>> > > I am trying to implement DITA on my colleagues machine.
>> > >
>> > > But guys, is there's anyone out there who has worked with DITA
>> > > application pack successfully to generate CHMs or HTML? I am asking
>> > > because I shared this problem with someone in the Frame development
>> > > team... and the response wasn't very encouraging. This person just
>> > > asked me to go for the 8 beta, as it has integrated DITA support...
>> > > one doesn't need to grapple with the Application pack.
>> > >
>> > > Regards,
>> > > Gyanesh
>> > >
>> > > On 6/5/07, Scott Prentice wrote:
>> > >> Hi Gyanesh...
>> > >>
>> > >> I responded to your last posting, but just in case you didn't
Re: Frame crashes when trying to generate output from DITA map... (cross posting)
Hey Scott.. thanks again. And sorry, I didn't see your earlier message earlier. But, I am afraid, the patch hasn't solved my problem. I just have to say Generate Output and I hear that loud thud... everytime! I am trying to implement DITA on my colleagues machine. But guys, is there's anyone out there who has worked with DITA application pack successfully to generate CHMs or HTML? I am asking because I shared this problem with someone in the Frame development team... and the response wasn't very encouraging. This person just asked me to go for the 8 beta, as it has integrated DITA support... one doesn't need to grapple with the Application pack. Regards, Gyanesh On 6/5/07, Scott Prentice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Gyanesh... I responded to your last posting, but just in case you didn't get it .. you should install the latest FM update (7.2p158). I have seen some odd problems with the version you're using. http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=22platform=Windows ...scott Gyanesh Talwar wrote: Hi All, Sorry for cross posting... but this is urgent... so I am cross posting this to Framers as well as the DITA+Frame yahoogroup. 7.2b144 OT 1.2.2 I have setup DITA and am trying to generate output from the test example, as explained in Adobe's Using the DITA OT with Frame Application Pack for DITA PDF. However, as soon as I say Generate Output, Frame asks to save the Ditamap file and Crashes … citing 7204, 6109890, and 7778516, 0. I even tried reallocating more space to my C to provide Frame more room, but it did not help. Anyone else also encountered this? Will uninstalling Framescript and other plugins help? Thanks in Advance, Gyanesh -- Gyanesh Talwar |~~^~~^~~~^~~^~~| Bunbu Itchi |~~^~~^~~~^~~^~~| ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Frame crashes when trying to generate output from DITA map... (cross posting)
Hi Gyanesh... Sorry .. I misunderstood which function you were using. I thought you were using the "Build FM book from ditamap" (yeah, I know you clearly said the "Generate Output" command). What happens if you save the map before running the Generate Output command? It only asks to save if the file was unsaved. Also, you can say "No" to the "OK to save" dialog .. try that as well. feel free to send me your files .. it's possible that there's something in your ditamap that the system doesn't like. Something else to check .. In the DITA Options dialog, do you have the Topic, Map, and Book structure application assigned properly to the corresponding options? When you start Frame, do you get any messages in the console window? Many people are successfully generating HTML and CHM output through the App Pack .. however, this requires that you have the DITA Open Toolkit installed properly as well (this is no small task). All the Generate Output command does is pass some parameters off to the OT, there is no CHM or HTML output processing provided with the App Pack. You may want to sign up for the framemaker-dita Yahoo group (http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/framemaker-dita/), since that's the forum where these things are discussed more regularly. ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Gyanesh Talwar wrote: > Hey Scott.. thanks again. > > And sorry, I didn't see your earlier message earlier. > > But, I am afraid, the patch hasn't solved my problem. I just have to > say "Generate Output" and I hear that loud thud... everytime! > > I am trying to implement DITA on my colleagues machine. > > But guys, is there's anyone out there who has worked with DITA > application pack successfully to generate CHMs or HTML? I am asking > because I shared this problem with someone in the Frame development > team... and the response wasn't very encouraging. This person just > asked me to go for the 8 beta, as it has integrated DITA support... > one doesn't need to grapple with the Application pack. > > Regards, > Gyanesh > > On 6/5/07, Scott Prentice wrote: >> Hi Gyanesh... >> >> I responded to your last posting, but just in case you didn't get it .. >> you should install the latest FM update (7.2p158). I have seen some odd >> problems with the version you're using. >> >> >> http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=22=Windows >> >> >> >> ...scott >> >> >> Gyanesh Talwar wrote: >> > Hi All, >> > >> > Sorry for cross posting... but this is urgent... so I am cross posting >> > this to Framers as well as the DITA+Frame yahoogroup. >> > >> > 7.2b144 >> > OT 1.2.2 >> > >> > I have setup DITA and am trying to generate output from the "test" >> > example, as explained in Adobe's "Using the DITA OT with Frame >> > Application Pack for DITA" PDF. >> > >> > However, as soon as I say Generate Output, Frame asks to save the >> > Ditamap file and Crashes ? citing "7204, 6109890, and 7778516, 0." >> > >> > I even tried reallocating more space to my C to provide Frame more >> > room, but it did not help. >> > >> > Anyone else also encountered this? Will uninstalling Framescript and >> > other plugins help? >> > >> > Thanks in Advance, >> > >> > Gyanesh >> > >> >> > >
Frame crashes when trying to generate output from DITA map... (cross posting)
Hi All, Sorry for cross posting... but this is urgent... so I am cross posting this to Framers as well as the DITA+Frame yahoogroup. 7.2b144 OT 1.2.2 I have setup DITA and am trying to generate output from the test example, as explained in Adobe's Using the DITA OT with Frame Application Pack for DITA PDF. However, as soon as I say Generate Output, Frame asks to save the Ditamap file and Crashes … citing 7204, 6109890, and 7778516, 0. I even tried reallocating more space to my C to provide Frame more room, but it did not help. Anyone else also encountered this? Will uninstalling Framescript and other plugins help? Thanks in Advance, Gyanesh ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Frame crashes when trying to generate output from DITA map... (cross posting)
Hi Gyanesh... I responded to your last posting, but just in case you didn't get it .. you should install the latest FM update (7.2p158). I have seen some odd problems with the version you're using. http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=22platform=Windows ...scott Gyanesh Talwar wrote: Hi All, Sorry for cross posting... but this is urgent... so I am cross posting this to Framers as well as the DITA+Frame yahoogroup. 7.2b144 OT 1.2.2 I have setup DITA and am trying to generate output from the test example, as explained in Adobe's Using the DITA OT with Frame Application Pack for DITA PDF. However, as soon as I say Generate Output, Frame asks to save the Ditamap file and Crashes … citing 7204, 6109890, and 7778516, 0. I even tried reallocating more space to my C to provide Frame more room, but it did not help. Anyone else also encountered this? Will uninstalling Framescript and other plugins help? Thanks in Advance, Gyanesh ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Frame crashes when trying to generate output from DITA map... (cross posting)
Hi Gyanesh... I responded to your last posting, but just in case you didn't get it .. you should install the latest FM update (7.2p158). I have seen some odd problems with the version you're using. http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=22=Windows ...scott Gyanesh Talwar wrote: > Hi All, > > Sorry for cross posting... but this is urgent... so I am cross posting > this to Framers as well as the DITA+Frame yahoogroup. > > 7.2b144 > OT 1.2.2 > > I have setup DITA and am trying to generate output from the "test" > example, as explained in Adobe's "Using the DITA OT with Frame > Application Pack for DITA" PDF. > > However, as soon as I say Generate Output, Frame asks to save the > Ditamap file and Crashes ? citing "7204, 6109890, and 7778516, 0." > > I even tried reallocating more space to my C to provide Frame more > room, but it did not help. > > Anyone else also encountered this? Will uninstalling Framescript and > other plugins help? > > Thanks in Advance, > > Gyanesh >
