Hypertext?

[Theresa de Valence]

In a Frame to pdf document, how do I put in an email address so that 
clicking on it opens the viewer's email? I.e. I know that it can be 
created (e.g. TdeV at bstw.com ), but how to do it in 
Frame?

Thanks,
Theresa

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Hypertext?

[Writer]

If you only need to output to PDF, I don't think you need to do anything. I ran 
a quick test with FM 9/Acrobat Pro 8, and Acrobat Pro automatically recognized 
the text in the FM file as an email address (although, I can't find how to 
prevent it from doing this). You might want to give the address a character tag 
in FM to make it look like a link.

Nadine




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> From: Theresa de Valence 
>To: "framers at lists.frameusers.com"  
>Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 1:50:21 PM
>Subject: Hypertext?
> 
>
>In a Frame to pdf document, how do I put in an email address so that clicking 
>on it opens the viewer's email? I.e. I know that it can be created (e.g.? TdeV 
>at bstw.com), but how to do it in Frame?
>
>Thanks,
>Theresa
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Hypertext?

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Theresa,



Here is the Hypertext marker syntax that you need:



message URL mailto:rick at frameexpert.com



Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. Thank you very
much.



Rick Quatro

Carmen Publishing Inc.

*** 585-283-5045 *** NEW NUMBER

rick at frameexpert.com

http://www.frameexpert.com







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clicking on it opens the viewer's email? I.e. I know that it can be created
(e.g.  TdeV at bstw.com), but how to do it in Frame?

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Hypertext?

[Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)]

Highlight the text in FrameMaker, and put in a hypertext marker as "message URL 
mailto:TdeV at bstw.com" ... this comes out  in the PDF as a clickable link 
that will invoke the default e-mail client compose window to that address.

Z


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Hypertext?

[Shlomo Perets]

Nadine,

You wrote:

>If you only need to output to PDF, I don't think you need to do anything. 
>I ran a quick test with FM 9/Acrobat Pro 8, and Acrobat Pro automatically 
>recognized the text in the FM file as an email address (although, I can't 
>find how to prevent it from doing this). You might want to give the 
>address a character tag in FM to make it look like a link.


Inserting a hypertext marker, as described by Rick Quatro and Syed Zaeem 
Hosain, which results in an Acrobat link, is recommended.

When you don't insert the marker, you may still see what looks like a 
link,  because of the Acrobat/Reader feature of detecting links in the 
content (Edit>Preferences, General; in versions 8/9/X it is called "Create 
Links from URLs",  in version 7 "Automatically detect URLs from text").

This detection has some limitations, depending on the Acrobat/Reader 
version used by your end users; it is not available with Reader versions 
earlier than 7 (and may also also not be available in non-Adobe PDF viewers)

To have fully-functional e-mail links in all versions of Reader, I 
recommend adding hypertext links in FrameMaker, so that "real" e-mail links 
are present in the PDF (and not relying on auto-detected ones).


Shlomo Perets

MicroType, http://www.microtype.com
FrameMaker/TCS training & consulting * FM-to-Acrobat TimeSavers/Assistants 

Hypertext?

[Writer]

Thanks, Shlomo. I was actually concerned about how to turn it off. The help 
provided no help in the matter, and poking around Acrobat made me none the 
wiser.

Cheers,

Nadine




>
> From: Shlomo Perets 
>To: Writer  
>Cc: Theresa de Valence ; framers at lists.frameusers.com 
>Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 4:58:49 AM
>Subject: Re: Hypertext?
> 
>Nadine,
>
>You wrote:
>
>> If you only need to output to PDF, I don't think you need to do anything. I 
>> ran a quick test with FM 9/Acrobat Pro 8, and Acrobat Pro automatically 
>> recognized the text in the FM file as an email address (although, I can't 
>> find how to prevent it from doing this). You might want to give the address 
>> a character tag in FM to make it look like a link.
>
>
>Inserting a hypertext marker, as described by Rick Quatro and Syed Zaeem 
>Hosain, which results in an Acrobat link, is recommended.
>
>When you don't insert the marker, you may still see what looks like a link,? 
>because of the Acrobat/Reader feature of detecting links in the content 
>(Edit>Preferences, General; in versions 8/9/X it is called "Create Links from 
>URLs",? in version 7 "Automatically detect URLs from text").
>
>This detection has some limitations, depending on the Acrobat/Reader version 
>used by your end users; it is not available with Reader versions earlier than 
>7 (and may also also not be available in non-Adobe PDF viewers)
>
>To have fully-functional e-mail links in all versions of Reader, I recommend 
>adding hypertext links in FrameMaker, so that "real" e-mail links are present 
>in the PDF (and not relying on auto-detected ones).
>
>
>Shlomo Perets
>
>MicroType, http://www.microtype.com
>FrameMaker/TCS training & consulting * FM-to-Acrobat TimeSavers/Assistants 
>
>
>
>
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Hypertext?

[Robert Lauriston]

The HyperText syntax is "message URL mailto:...";

On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Theresa de Valence  wrote:
> In a Frame to pdf document, how do I put in an email address so that
> clicking on it opens the viewer's email? I.e. I know that it can be created
> (e.g.? TdeV at bstw.com), but how to do it in Frame?

Hypertext?

[Theresa de Valence]

On 3/27/2012 5:31 PM, Rick Quatro wrote:
> Here is the Hypertext marker syntax that you need:
> message URL mailto:rick at frameexpert.com


THANK YOU!

Hypertext?

[Stuart Rogers]

On 27/03/2012 9:03 PM, Theresa de Valence wrote:
> On 3/27/2012 5:31 PM, Rick Quatro wrote:
>> Here is the Hypertext marker syntax that you need:
>> message URL mailto:rick at frameexpert.com
>
>
> THANK YOU!

You might also find these hypertext commands useful if you want to 
automatically add a subject line, cc, etc.:

http://www.addressmunger.com/mailto_syntax_tutorial/


-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com

Hypertext?

[Theresa de Valence]

In a Frame to pdf document, how do I put in an email address so that 
clicking on it opens the viewer's email? I.e. I know that it can be 
created (e.g. t...@bstw.com ), but how to do it in 
Frame?


Thanks,
Theresa

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Hypertext command

[Stephen O'Brien]

I place the hypertext command below in a FM 8 
document to open a PDF file on clicking the link. 
It works unless the file name has an apostrophe 
(happens often as the file names are in French), like below:

Type: Message Client

Command: message openfile \\civette/4654 Project d'IMSurvey.pdf

Does anyone know how to solve this problem?

For now I remane the PDF file and replace the 
apostrophe by undescore, but it's manual and not 
practical. Would prefer getting the hypertext command to work...

Thanks for your ideas.

Stephen O'Brien
R?dacteur technique / Technical Writer
InnovMetric Logiciels inc. / InnovMetric Software Inc.
2014, Cyrille-Duquet, suite 310
Qu?bec (Qu?bec) Canada G1N 4N6

Tel.: (418) 688-2061
Fax: (418) 688-3001
E-mail: sobrien at innovmetric.com
www.innovmetric.com
PolyWorks, the Universal 3D Metrology Software Platform for Manufacturing (TM)

Hypertext command

[Shlomo Perets]

Stephen,

You wrote:

>I place the hypertext command below in a FM 8
>document to open a PDF file on clicking the link.
>It works unless the file name has an apostrophe
>(happens often as the file names are in French), like below:
>
>Type: Message Client
>
>Command: message openfile \\civette/4654 Project d'IMSurvey.pdf
>
>Does anyone know how to solve this problem?
>
>For now I remane the PDF file and replace the
>apostrophe by undescore, but it's manual and not
>practical. Would prefer getting the hypertext command to work...


In the Hypertext dialog box, type \" (backslash followed by a straight 
quote character) instead of the apostrophe.

Shlomo Perets
MicroType, FrameMaker/Acrobat training & consulting

"24 easy ways to improve your PDFs with FrameMaker-to-Acrobat 
TimeSavers/Assistants",
http://www.microtype.com/ImprovePDF.html

hypertext problem

[Jo Watkiss]

I am trying to create a link to a specific page in a pdf file, but
cannot get the link to go to the correct page.  



Both source and destination files are created in FrameMaker. 

The destination file is a frame book file, that is distilled to a single
pdf file.  

Each frame file re-starts page numbering at page 1.  (1-1, 1-2, ... 2-1,
2-2, 2-3 ... 3-1, 3-2 etc).  The PDF pages are simply numbered from 1
onwards.



If I set a link to go to page 27, it goes to 2-27, which is actually
page 45.  This is the first chapter that has 27 pages.



I have tried using all the following syntaxes:

gotopage filename:pagenumber

openpage filename:pagenumber

openlink filename:pagenumber



I would prefer not to put the links in manually in the pdf (there are
lots of them).

Adding a linkname marker in the destination document works, but is not
feasible because it is a legacy document.



Any suggestions?



(FM9, Acrobat 9 on Win 7)



Thanks,

Jo Watkiss 




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hypertext problem

[Jo Watkiss]

I am trying to create a link to a specific page in a pdf file, but
cannot get the link to go to the correct page.  

 

Both source and destination files are created in FrameMaker. 

The destination file is a frame book file, that is distilled to a single
pdf file.  

Each frame file re-starts page numbering at page 1.  (1-1, 1-2, ... 2-1,
2-2, 2-3 ... 3-1, 3-2 etc).  The PDF pages are simply numbered from 1
onwards.

 

If I set a link to go to page 27, it goes to 2-27, which is actually
page 45.  This is the first chapter that has 27 pages.

 

I have tried using all the following syntaxes:

gotopage filename:pagenumber

openpage filename:pagenumber

openlink filename:pagenumber

 

I would prefer not to put the links in manually in the pdf (there are
lots of them).

Adding a linkname marker in the destination document works, but is not
feasible because it is a legacy document.

 

Any suggestions?

 

(FM9, Acrobat 9 on Win 7)

 

Thanks,

Jo Watkiss 

 


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Re: Hypertext?

[Writer]

If you only need to output to PDF, I don't think you need to do anything. I ran 
a quick test with FM 9/Acrobat Pro 8, and Acrobat Pro automatically recognized 
the text in the FM file as an email address (although, I can't find how to 
prevent it from doing this). You might want to give the address a character tag 
in FM to make it look like a link.

Nadine




>
> From: Theresa de Valence 
>To: "framers@lists.frameusers.com"  
>Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 1:50:21 PM
>Subject: Hypertext?
> 
>
>In a Frame to pdf document, how do I put in an email address so that clicking 
>on it opens the viewer's email? I.e. I know that it can be created (e.g.  
>t...@bstw.com), but how to do it in Frame?
>
>Thanks,
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RE: Hypertext?

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Theresa,

 

Here is the Hypertext marker syntax that you need:

 

message URL mailto:r...@frameexpert.com

 

Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. Thank you very
much.

 

Rick Quatro

Carmen Publishing Inc.

*** 585-283-5045 *** NEW NUMBER

r...@frameexpert.com

http://www.frameexpert.com

 

 

 

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Subject: Hypertext?

 

In a Frame to pdf document, how do I put in an email address so that
clicking on it opens the viewer's email? I.e. I know that it can be created
(e.g.  t...@bstw.com), but how to do it in Frame?

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RE: Hypertext?

[Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)]

Highlight the text in FrameMaker, and put in a hypertext marker as "message URL 
mailto:t...@bstw.com"; ... this comes out  in the PDF as a clickable link that 
will invoke the default e-mail client compose window to that address.

Z


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Subject: Hypertext?

In a Frame to pdf document, how do I put in an email address so that clicking 
on it opens the viewer's email? I.e. I know that it can be created (e.g.  
t...@bstw.com), but how to do it in Frame?

Thanks,
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Re: Hypertext?

[Shlomo Perets]

Nadine,

You wrote:

If you only need to output to PDF, I don't think you need to do anything. 
I ran a quick test with FM 9/Acrobat Pro 8, and Acrobat Pro automatically 
recognized the text in the FM file as an email address (although, I can't 
find how to prevent it from doing this). You might want to give the 
address a character tag in FM to make it look like a link.



Inserting a hypertext marker, as described by Rick Quatro and Syed Zaeem 
Hosain, which results in an Acrobat link, is recommended.


When you don't insert the marker, you may still see what looks like a 
link,  because of the Acrobat/Reader feature of detecting links in the 
content (Edit>Preferences, General; in versions 8/9/X it is called "Create 
Links from URLs",  in version 7 "Automatically detect URLs from text").


This detection has some limitations, depending on the Acrobat/Reader 
version used by your end users; it is not available with Reader versions 
earlier than 7 (and may also also not be available in non-Adobe PDF viewers)


To have fully-functional e-mail links in all versions of Reader, I 
recommend adding hypertext links in FrameMaker, so that "real" e-mail links 
are present in the PDF (and not relying on auto-detected ones).



Shlomo Perets

MicroType, http://www.microtype.com
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Re: Hypertext?

[Writer]

Thanks, Shlomo. I was actually concerned about how to turn it off. The help 
provided no help in the matter, and poking around Acrobat made me none the 
wiser.

Cheers,

Nadine




>
> From: Shlomo Perets 
>To: Writer  
>Cc: Theresa de Valence ; framers@lists.frameusers.com 
>Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 4:58:49 AM
>Subject: Re: Hypertext?
> 
>Nadine,
>
>You wrote:
>
>> If you only need to output to PDF, I don't think you need to do anything. I 
>> ran a quick test with FM 9/Acrobat Pro 8, and Acrobat Pro automatically 
>> recognized the text in the FM file as an email address (although, I can't 
>> find how to prevent it from doing this). You might want to give the address 
>> a character tag in FM to make it look like a link.
>
>
>Inserting a hypertext marker, as described by Rick Quatro and Syed Zaeem 
>Hosain, which results in an Acrobat link, is recommended.
>
>When you don't insert the marker, you may still see what looks like a link,  
>because of the Acrobat/Reader feature of detecting links in the content 
>(Edit>Preferences, General; in versions 8/9/X it is called "Create Links from 
>URLs",  in version 7 "Automatically detect URLs from text").
>
>This detection has some limitations, depending on the Acrobat/Reader version 
>used by your end users; it is not available with Reader versions earlier than 
>7 (and may also also not be available in non-Adobe PDF viewers)
>
>To have fully-functional e-mail links in all versions of Reader, I recommend 
>adding hypertext links in FrameMaker, so that "real" e-mail links are present 
>in the PDF (and not relying on auto-detected ones).
>
>
>Shlomo Perets
>
>MicroType, http://www.microtype.com
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>
>
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Re: Hypertext?

[Robert Lauriston]

The HyperText syntax is "message URL mailto:...";

On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Theresa de Valence  wrote:
> In a Frame to pdf document, how do I put in an email address so that
> clicking on it opens the viewer's email? I.e. I know that it can be created
> (e.g.  t...@bstw.com), but how to do it in Frame?
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Re: Hypertext?

[Theresa de Valence]

On 3/27/2012 5:31 PM, Rick Quatro wrote:

Here is the Hypertext marker syntax that you need:
message URL mailto:r...@frameexpert.com



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Re: Hypertext?

[Stuart Rogers]

On 27/03/2012 9:03 PM, Theresa de Valence wrote:

On 3/27/2012 5:31 PM, Rick Quatro wrote:

Here is the Hypertext marker syntax that you need:
message URL mailto:r...@frameexpert.com



THANK YOU!


You might also find these hypertext commands useful if you want to 
automatically add a subject line, cc, etc.:


http://www.addressmunger.com/mailto_syntax_tutorial/


--
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
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Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
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Hypertext command

[Stephen O'Brien]

I place the hypertext command below in a FM 8 
document to open a PDF file on clicking the link. 
It works unless the file name has an apostrophe 
(happens often as the file names are in French), like below:

Type: Message Client

Command: message openfile \\civette/4654 Project d'IMSurvey.pdf

Does anyone know how to solve this problem?

For now I remane the PDF file and replace the 
apostrophe by undescore, but it's manual and not 
practical. Would prefer getting the hypertext command to work...

Thanks for your ideas.

Stephen O'Brien
Rédacteur technique / Technical Writer
InnovMetric Logiciels inc. / InnovMetric Software Inc.
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Pop-up on hypertext in a pdf document/hypertext?

[Fausset, Marilyn]

Shlomo Perets replied re PDFs:
>>>There are no built-in FrameMaker mechanisms supporting the creation
of PDF 
>>>popups (regardless of the FM version).
>>> [ The FrameMaker-to-Acrobat TimeSavers add-on and its extensions
provide 
>>>several solutions for FM->PDF pop-ups; see 
>>>http://www.microtype.com/ImprovePDF08.html for more information and
sample 
>>>PDFs with pop-ups -- text, image, audio or video ]

Is there any way to use FrameMaker (and perhaps an add-on) to create
pop-ups when saving Frame as HTML?


Marilyn Fausset
Technical Writer
Storage Networking Industry Association

Pop-up on hypertext in a pdf document/hypertext?

[Jeremy H. Griffith]

On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 15:30:48 -0600, "Fausset, Marilyn" 
 wrote:

>Is there any way to use FrameMaker (and perhaps an add-on) to create
>pop-ups when saving Frame as HTML?

Sure.  I don't know if Frame's native HTML export supports them,
but Mif2Go certainly does, in HTML-based Help systems.  See the
User's Guide, par. 6.8.3, "Displaying a topic in a pop-up window",
for a brief summary.  You can view the User's Guide in OmniHelp
format at:
  http://www.omsys.com/dcl/ohusergd/

Par. 6.8.1, "Understanding pop-up hotspots, links, and topics",
shows a popup link.  Naturally, you have to allow the popups in
your browser for them to work.

If you want a popup in non-Help HTML, you need to use JavaScript.
Mif2Go also supports inclusion of arbitrary JS wherever you want.

HTH!
-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
http://www.omsys.com/

Formatting Hypertext Links

[Doug]

I currently am inserting hypertext links into my FM documents linking
to PDFs.  The links work fine; after I PDF Document A, the link opens
the PDF Document B in Acrobat when click the link in PDF A.

What I want to know is this:  I want the keyword I lighted when I
created the link to be formatted with blue color and underlining.  Is
there a way to add this automatically when I create the link, or do I
need to create a format with the appropriate characteristics?

--Doug

Formatting Hypertext Links

[Shlomo Perets]

Doug,

You wrote:

>I currently am inserting hypertext links into my FM documents linking
>to PDFs.  The links work fine; after I PDF Document A, the link opens
>the PDF Document B in Acrobat when click the link in PDF A.
>
>What I want to know is this:  I want the keyword I lighted when I
>created the link to be formatted with blue color and underlining.  Is
>there a way to add this automatically when I create the link, or do I
>need to create a format with the appropriate characteristics?

Applying a character format to the link text is essential (even when you 
don't want to show the link distinctly), because it lets you limit the 
link's area. Numeric underline is recommended, as it somewhat lower 
compared to the regular underline, and also thinner.

FrameMaker lets you create the link, but does not let you control the 
visual properties of the link (as available in Acrobat): highlight style or 
border/underline associated with the link as an object.

[ With my FM-to-Acrobat TimeSavers add-on it is possible to to have an 
underline that behaves and looks differently: it can be visible on-screen 
but not printed, so that paper output is not cluttered. Properties that can 
be controlled include underline color, thickness, baseline offset, link 
highlight style.
These underlines are displayed uniformly in Acrobat, regardless of the zoom 
level; FrameMaker's underlines -- whether single or thin -- are thick and 
are displayed inconsistently (some may show up as thick and other as thin; 
zoom in or out and what was thick may now be thin and vice versa).
Acrobat/Reader 6 or higher are needed to display the PDF.
A sample PDF is available at http://www.microtype.com/showcase/VisLinks.pdf 
(60K); see http://www.microtype.com/improvePDF.html#19 for more information.
The entire active area created by cross-references and hypertext markers 
can be automatically handled this way; applying a character format is still 
needed to control the link area. ]

Shlomo Perets

MicroType, http://www.microtype.com
Training, consulting & add-ons: FrameMaker, Structured FM and Acrobat

Hypertext Link Strangeness

[Donald M Rinderknecht]

Hi All,

I've got one for you I am making hypertext links active in the PDF 
output by using a "message URL" hypertext marker. I use a character tag 
to identify the text to include in the link. This has worked fine for me 
in the past in unstructured docs.

I have recently noticed that in my structured doc the link is not 
working the way I expect. In some cases I get only a part of the address 
in the link or no active link at all.

Could this be related to 7.2 or the fact that I am using a structured 
doc? Do I need to define an element for the link?

Thanks,
Don.

-- 
Don Rinderknecht -- KD5MVV
Meteorologist Instructor/Developer ~ Warning Decision Training Branch
Donald.M.Rinderknecht at noaa.gov ~ http://wdtb.noaa.gov

Hypertext Link Strangeness

[Daniel Emory]

 wrote:
> I've got one for you I am making hypertext links
> active in the PDF 
> output by using a "message URL" hypertext marker. I
> use a character tag 
> to identify the text to include in the link. This
> has worked fine for me 
> in the past in unstructured docs.
> 
> I have recently noticed that in my structured doc
> the link is not 
> working the way I expect. In some cases I get only a
> part of the address 
> in the link or no active link at all.
=
My experience with converting structured docs with
hyperlinks to PDF is that the links don't work if you
insert the gotolink (or message URL marker) at the
before the first text character in a text line.
Instead, insert the marker at the end of the
highlighted text (i.e., just before the end bracket ])
delineating the end of the character tag.

The same goes for newlink markers. Namely, never
insert a newlink marker before the first text
character in text line.

I use EDD-defined structure rules to define the link
components, as follows:
=
GoToExt (a link to another FM document or URL)
The structure rule for this element consists of the
names of one or more marker-type elements:

(FmGotlink | MailLink | whatever else is needed)
Each element specified in the structure rule is
defined as being a marker of a particular type. 

Element GotoExt is defined as a text-range element and
the format rule specifies colored text.

==
GoToint (a link to a newlink marker within the same
document). The structure rule for this element is:

(FmGotolink | whatever else is needed)
Each element specified in the structure rule is
defined as being a marker of a particular type. 
=
Element NewLink (an element of type newlink marker,
which specifies the unique name of a hypertext node
within a FrameMaker document.

Obviously, no colored text is required in this case.





Dan Emory & Associates
FrameMaker/FrameMaker+SGML Document Design & Database Publishing

Hypertext link problems

[Shlomo Perets]

Karen,

You wrote:

>FrameMaker 7.2
>Acrobat Pro 7
>Windows XP
>
>I'm running into problems with hypertext mailto: links. If the email addy
>has a period, underscore, or dash in it, only the addy after that mark
>appears on the To: line when executed from the PDF. Any ideas?


Most likely, the problematic e-mail links are not "real links" in Acrobat; 
the activity you see is related to the "Automatically detect URLs from 
text" preference (Acrobat and Reader *7 only*: Edit > Preferences, General).

Acrobat's interpretation of text-based web addresses is problematic when 
the URL is split between lines, or when the "underlying" text is not 
recognized properly. In the case of e-mail addresses, the presence of 
characters such as dot, underscore or dash indeed causes a problem in the 
interpretation (so a_b at company.com is interpreted as b at company.com).

Links that are intentionally defined in FrameMaker using hypertext markers 
result in an active area, showing a 'w' or '+' in the hand icon when you 
hover above it (depending on the web capture preference). In Acrobat/Reader 
7, such links also trigger a Security Warning ("the document is trying to 
connect to the site: http://.   If you trust the site click 'Allow', 
otherwise click 'Block'." There is an option to remember your action per 
web address).

Web links that are detected automatically only show the hand icon, and do 
not trigger the Security message.

It is possible that you have a "real" link, but that its area does not 
match the corresponding text. Try activating the link tool in Acrobat to 
make sure the link area is what you expect.

It is also possible that you have e-mail markers in FrameMaker, but that 
there is a problem with the syntax of some markers, or they may have the 
wrong type (when using Special > Marker, FrameMaker changes the default 
marker type based on markers present in the selected text area, so it's too 
easy to try and insert a hypertext marker but end up inserting an Index or 
Cross-Ref).


Shlomo Perets

MicroType, http://www.microtype.com * ToolbarPlus Express for FrameMaker
FrameMaker/Acrobat training & consulting * FrameMaker-to-Acrobat 
TimeSavers/Assistants
Template Design, Single Sourcing, FM-to-PDF & Technical Indexing seminars

Hypertext in Windows

[Pierre Brandeis]

Hi everybody


I usually use FM on the Mac (Classic in Tiger). I have no probl?me with
automatic hypertext links generated in TOCs, indexes or Xrefs.

When I happen to use the Windows version (on my clients systems) the
hypertext only half works : Crtl-Atl-Clic opens the target file and
highlights correctly the marker, but if the target window is already open in
the background, it does'nt make it active (the window stays behind). In
other words, the target window does not get to the foreground.

Is there any thing to dossier to correct this behaviour ?

Thanks

Pierre, Saclay, France

Hypertext link problems

[Karen L. Zorn]

FrameMaker 7.2
Acrobat Pro 7
Windows XP

I'm running into problems with hypertext mailto: links. If the email addy
has a period, underscore, or dash in it, only the addy after that mark
appears on the To: line when executed from the PDF. Any ideas?

Karen L. Zorn
Zorn Technologies, Inc.
Mesa, AZ

Hypertext link problems

[Combs, Richard]

Karen L. Zorn wrote: 

> I'm running into problems with hypertext mailto: links. If 
> the email addy has a period, underscore, or dash in it, only 
> the addy after that mark appears on the To: line when 
> executed from the PDF. Any ideas?

No idea why it's happening, but here's something to try: Use the HTML
entity names -- "." "_" "‐" (minus the quotes, of
course) -- and see if any or all of those work. 

HTH!
Richard


--
Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
303-777-0436
--

Hypertext link problems

[Peter Gold]

Hi, Karen:

* Does the problem happen in FrameMaker, with Ctrl+Alt+Click, or only in 
the PDF? If the hyperlink works correctly in FrameMaker, it's likely a 
bug in Acrobat's parsing of the addresses.

* Is your Acrobat 7 updated fully? Have you tried with earlier releases 
of Reader, like 6, 5, etc?

* Have you tried not making the addresses as hyperlinks in FrameMaker, 
and turning on the Acrobat (and Reader) 7.x preference to detect links? 
Any difference?

HTH

Regards,

Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices

Karen L. Zorn wrote:
> FrameMaker 7.2
> Acrobat Pro 7
> Windows XP
>  
> I'm running into problems with hypertext mailto: links. If the email addy
> has a period, underscore, or dash in it, only the addy after that mark
> appears on the To: line when executed from the PDF. Any ideas?
>  
>   

Hypertext link problems

[Karen L. Zorn]

* Does the problem happen in FrameMaker, with Ctrl+Alt+Click, or only in 
the PDF? If the hyperlink works correctly in FrameMaker, it's likely a 
bug in Acrobat's parsing of the addresses.

Works in FM, not PDF

* Is your Acrobat 7 updated fully? Have you tried with earlier releases 
of Reader, like 6, 5, etc?

Running 7.0.8, so fully updated

* Have you tried not making the addresses as hyperlinks in FrameMaker, 
and turning on the Acrobat (and Reader) 7.x preference to detect links? 
Any difference?

It seems that the email links are the ones that fail. Some work, some don't.
I went into the PDF and checked all converted links, then added the ones
that were missing. Frankly, this is a royal pain. But, if that's what it
takes!

Thanks all for the suggestions and help.

Karen L. Zorn
Zorn Technologies, Inc.
Mesa, AZ

Hypertext link problems

[Peter Gold]

Hi, Karen:

Karen L. Zorn wrote:
> * Does the problem happen in FrameMaker, with Ctrl+Alt+Click, or only in 
> the PDF? If the hyperlink works correctly in FrameMaker, it's likely a 
> bug in Acrobat's parsing of the addresses.
>
> Works in FM, not PDF
>
> * Is your Acrobat 7 updated fully? Have you tried with earlier releases 
> of Reader, like 6, 5, etc?
>
> Running 7.0.8, so fully updated
>
> * Have you tried not making the addresses as hyperlinks in FrameMaker, 
> and turning on the Acrobat (and Reader) 7.x preference to detect links? 
> Any difference?
>
> It seems that the email links are the ones that fail. Some work, some don't.
> I went into the PDF and checked all converted links, then added the ones
> that were missing. Frankly, this is a royal pain. But, if that's what it
> takes!
>   

I'm not clear - are you saying that the links that fail in the PDF are 
improperly constructed, rather than that Acrobat is failing to parse 
them correctly?
> Thanks all for the suggestions and help.
>   
Sure! I'm always curious about new things that break.

Regards,

Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices

hypertext marker problem

[Paul Grigg]

Using Framemaker 6.0, Webworks professional 7.0
=

When you have a hypertext link in a CHM file that points to an external
website, the default behavior is to open that website within the CHM. If you
want the link opened in the browser, then the link needs to have
TARGET="_NEW" appended to it. 

However, when you create hypertext markers in framemaker with TARGET="_NEW"
appended to them, the resultant link in the compiled CHM file does not work.


Has anyone come across the problem, and is there a solution?

Thanks, Paul

hypertext marker problem

[Rick Henkel]

Paul Grigg wrote:
> Using Framemaker 6.0, Webworks professional 7.0
> =
>
> When you have a hypertext link in a CHM file that points to an external
> website, the default behavior is to open that website within the CHM. If you
> want the link opened in the browser, then the link needs to have
> TARGET="_NEW" appended to it. 
>
> However, when you create hypertext markers in framemaker with TARGET="_NEW"
> appended to them, the resultant link in the compiled CHM file does not work.
>
>
> Has anyone come across the problem, and is there a solution?
>   


I haven't tried this with any version of Webworks or CHM files, but when 
I run my Frame files through Flare, changing

message URL http://www.adobe.com

to

message NewURL http://www.adobe.com

creates the following hypertext link in WebHelp:

http://www.adobe.com"; target="_blank">


-- 
Rick Henkel
http://rickhenkel.googlepages.com/index.htm

hypertext marker problem

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Am 04.12.2007 um 14:37 schrieb Paul Grigg:

> Using Framemaker 6.0, Webworks professional 7.0
> =
>
> When you have a hypertext link in a CHM file that points to an  
> external
> website, the default behavior is to open that website within the  
> CHM. If you
> want the link opened in the browser, then the link needs to have
> TARGET="_NEW" appended to it.
>
> However, when you create hypertext markers in framemaker with  
> TARGET="_NEW"
> appended to them, the resultant link in the compiled CHM file does  
> not work.

Oh, this last bit is a dirty trick! You write

message URL http://www.checkpoint.com target="_blank

without a trailing quote and that may give you

http://www.checkpoint.com target="_blank">

in your HTML. Dirty, dirty!

Better: You modify the Webworks Style which is handling the  
hyperlinks (Marker Style "GotoLinkOpen") to detect that you are  
creating an 'external' link (check for "http://"; in the marker text)  
and if that is the case add the target attribute.

- Michael

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http://cap-studio.de/ -- Tel. +49 (9131) 28747

hypertext marker problem

[Paul Grigg]

Using Framemaker 6.0, Webworks professional 7.0
=

When you have a hypertext link in a CHM file that points to an external
website, the default behavior is to open that website within the CHM. If you
want the link opened in the browser, then the link needs to have
TARGET="_NEW" appended to it. 

However, when you create hypertext markers in framemaker with TARGET="_NEW"
appended to them, the resultant link in the compiled CHM file does not work.


Has anyone come across the problem, and is there a solution?

Thanks, Paul



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Formatting Hypertext Links

[Doug]

I currently am inserting hypertext links into my FM documents linking
to PDFs.  The links work fine; after I PDF Document A, the link opens
the PDF Document B in Acrobat when click the link in PDF A.

What I want to know is this:  I want the keyword I lighted when I
created the link to be formatted with blue color and underlining.  Is
there a way to add this automatically when I create the link, or do I
need to create a format with the appropriate characteristics?

--Doug
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Hypertext Link Strangeness

[Donald M Rinderknecht]

Hi All,

I've got one for you I am making hypertext links active in the PDF 
output by using a "message URL" hypertext marker. I use a character tag 
to identify the text to include in the link. This has worked fine for me 
in the past in unstructured docs.


I have recently noticed that in my structured doc the link is not 
working the way I expect. In some cases I get only a part of the address 
in the link or no active link at all.


Could this be related to 7.2 or the fact that I am using a structured 
doc? Do I need to define an element for the link?


Thanks,
Don.

--
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Meteorologist Instructor/Developer ~ Warning Decision Training Branch
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ http://wdtb.noaa.gov

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Hypertext in Windows

[Pierre Brandeis]

Hi everybody


I usually use FM on the Mac (Classic in Tiger). I have no problème with
automatic hypertext links generated in TOCs, indexes or Xrefs.

When I happen to use the Windows version (on my clients systems) the
hypertext only half works : Crtl-Atl-Clic opens the target file and
highlights correctly the marker, but if the target window is already open in
the background, it does'nt make it active (the window stays behind). In
other words, the target window does not get to the foreground.

Is there any thing to dossier to correct this behaviour ?

Thanks

Pierre, Saclay, France


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Hypertext link problems

[Karen L. Zorn]

FrameMaker 7.2
Acrobat Pro 7
Windows XP
 
I'm running into problems with hypertext mailto: links. If the email addy
has a period, underscore, or dash in it, only the addy after that mark
appears on the To: line when executed from the PDF. Any ideas?
 
Karen L. Zorn
Zorn Technologies, Inc.
Mesa, AZ
 
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Re: Pop-up on hypertext in a pdf document/hypertext?

[Fausset, Marilyn]

Shlomo Perets replied re PDFs:
>>>There are no built-in FrameMaker mechanisms supporting the creation
of PDF 
>>>popups (regardless of the FM version).
>>> [ The FrameMaker-to-Acrobat TimeSavers add-on and its extensions
provide 
>>>several solutions for FM->PDF pop-ups; see 
>>>http://www.microtype.com/ImprovePDF08.html for more information and
sample 
>>>PDFs with pop-ups -- text, image, audio or video ]

Is there any way to use FrameMaker (and perhaps an add-on) to create
pop-ups when saving Frame as HTML?


Marilyn Fausset
Technical Writer
Storage Networking Industry Association


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Re: Pop-up on hypertext in a pdf document/hypertext?

[Jeremy H. Griffith]

On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 15:30:48 -0600, "Fausset, Marilyn" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Is there any way to use FrameMaker (and perhaps an add-on) to create
>pop-ups when saving Frame as HTML?

Sure.  I don't know if Frame's native HTML export supports them,
but Mif2Go certainly does, in HTML-based Help systems.  See the
User's Guide, par. 6.8.3, "Displaying a topic in a pop-up window",
for a brief summary.  You can view the User's Guide in OmniHelp
format at:
  http://www.omsys.com/dcl/ohusergd/

Par. 6.8.1, "Understanding pop-up hotspots, links, and topics",
shows a popup link.  Naturally, you have to allow the popups in
your browser for them to work.

If you want a popup in non-Help HTML, you need to use JavaScript.
Mif2Go also supports inclusion of arbitrary JS wherever you want.

HTH!
-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  http://www.omsys.com/
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Backslashes In Hypertext Commands

[Richard Pesant]

Win XP SP2, P4 Extreme Ed. 3.46GHz + 3.47GHz 2GB, FM 8.0p277



Thanks to Rick Quattro, I am now aware of the backslash issue in dialog
boxes and have a workaround within scripts. However, I need to create an
hypertext command and do not know how to work around this issue. The
hypertext command ?openlink
D:\Docs\Products\CARDIO\DAR-9400f\M517-E063L-E099D_DAR-9400f Ops
Manuals_v3.0\D90+94_02-Overview.fm:2 998348? becomes ?openlink
D:?ocs\Products\CARDIO?AR-9400f\sm517-E063L-E099D_DAR-9400f Ops
Manuals_v3.0?90+94_02-Overview.fm:2 998348? where ?\D? becomes ??? and ?\M?
becomes ?\sm?. If I use the ?openObjectId? command, the backslashes are not
replaced but the link does not work.



Does anyone knows a good  work around for this issue?



Thanks,

Richard Pesant

Backslashes In Hypertext Commands

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Richard,

Use forward slashes instead of backslashes in the Hypertext markers.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com


> Win XP SP2, P4 Extreme Ed. 3.46GHz + 3.47GHz 2GB, FM 8.0p277
>
>
>
> Thanks to Rick Quattro, I am now aware of the backslash issue in dialog
> boxes and have a workaround within scripts. However, I need to create an
> hypertext command and do not know how to work around this issue. The
> hypertext command ?openlink
> D:\Docs\Products\CARDIO\DAR-9400f\M517-E063L-E099D_DAR-9400f Ops
> Manuals_v3.0\D90+94_02-Overview.fm:2 998348? becomes ?openlink
> D:?ocs\Products\CARDIO?AR-9400f\sm517-E063L-E099D_DAR-9400f Ops
> Manuals_v3.0?90+94_02-Overview.fm:2 998348? where ?\D? becomes ??? and 
>  ?\M?
> becomes ?\sm?. If I use the ?openObjectId? command, the backslashes are 
> not
> replaced but the link does not work.
>
>
>
> Does anyone knows a good  work around for this issue?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Richard Pesant

Backslashes In Hypertext Commands

[Stuart Rogers]

Richard Pesant wrote:
> Win XP SP2, P4 Extreme Ed. 3.46GHz + 3.47GHz 2GB, FM 8.0p277
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks to Rick Quattro, I am now aware of the backslash issue in dialog
> boxes and have a workaround within scripts. However, I need to create an
> hypertext command and do not know how to work around this issue. The
> hypertext command ?openlink
> D:\Docs\Products\CARDIO\DAR-9400f\M517-E063L-E099D_DAR-9400f Ops
> Manuals_v3.0\D90+94_02-Overview.fm:2 998348? becomes ?openlink
> D:?ocs\Products\CARDIO?AR-9400f\sm517-E063L-E099D_DAR-9400f Ops
> Manuals_v3.0?90+94_02-Overview.fm:2 998348? where ?\D? becomes ??? and ?\M?
> becomes ?\sm?. If I use the ?openObjectId? command, the backslashes are not
> replaced but the link does not work.
> 
>  
> 
> Does anyone knows a good  work around for this issue?
> 

Have you tried adding a second backslash at the problem points?  I think 
  that's how to get a literal backslash, but I haven't tested...

HTH,

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Hypertext Links not Working

[Heinlein, Roberta]

I'm having a frustrating problem with hypertext links. We create
hypertext links in FM 7.2 to PDF files. Then we convert the FM document
to PDF. The links work. We place the files in Documentum where they are
moved to our intranet. The links work perfectly.

We just upgraded to FM 8.0. The links still work in the PDF file until
it is moved to our intranet-then the links no longer work. We don't want
to have to revert back to FM 7.2 but we can't figure out how to correct
this problem. I have tried turning on Create Named Destinations for All
Paragraphs but it still doesn't work.



I'm new to the list, but I have searched the archives and haven't found
any discussion related to this problem.

TIA



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Hypertext Links not Working

[Stuart Rogers]

Heinlein, Roberta wrote:
> I'm having a frustrating problem with hypertext links. We create
> hypertext links in FM 7.2 to PDF files. Then we convert the FM document
> to PDF. The links work. We place the files in Documentum where they are
> moved to our intranet. The links work perfectly.
> 
> We just upgraded to FM 8.0. The links still work in the PDF file until
> it is moved to our intranet-then the links no longer work. We don't want
> to have to revert back to FM 7.2 but we can't figure out how to correct
> this problem. I have tried turning on Create Named Destinations for All
> Paragraphs but it still doesn't work.
> 


A little more info might help.

What is the nature of the links, e.g.,
-- simple x-ref's within the same file
-- cross-file within the same book
-- cross-file to other documents not in the book
-- links to URLs
-- mailto: links
-- other hypertext commands?

Do ALL links fail, or if only some, what's different?

Are you following the identical procedure as before when creating the 
PDF files?  Using Print to Adobe PDF vs. Save As PDF?  All files open, 
including book files of cross-ref targets outside this book?  (If you 
have cross-file links, the nature of the path information saved in the 
PDF will be different depending on whether or not the target's book file 
is open at the time.)  Is your folder structure the same as before?

best,


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Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
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Hypertext Links not Working

[Stuart Rogers]

Heinlein, Roberta wrote:
> Stuart,
> 
> The links that aren't working were created with the hypertext option
> using the Open Document command. We enter the relative address a
> separate file. The cross-reference links within the file seem to still
> be working.
> 


Are the paths and filenames correct when you open/edit the links with 
the Link tool in Acrobat?

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to beg in the streets, steal bread, or sleep under a bridge."

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Hypertext Links not Working

[Shlomo Perets]

Roberta,

You wrote:

>I'm having a frustrating problem with hypertext links. We create
>hypertext links in FM 7.2 to PDF files. Then we convert the FM document
>to PDF. The links work. We place the files in Documentum where they are
>moved to our intranet. The links work perfectly.
>
>We just upgraded to FM 8.0. The links still work in the PDF file until
>it is moved to our intranet-then the links no longer work. We don't want
>to have to revert back to FM 7.2 but we can't figure out how to correct
>this problem. I have tried turning on Create Named Destinations for All
>Paragraphs but it still doesn't work.
>
>I'm new to the list, but I have searched the archives and haven't found
>any discussion related to this problem.


Make sure you use FM8.0p273 or later. Cross-file links in PDFs authored in 
earlier releases of FrameMaker 8.0 use Unicode-encoded file paths and file 
names, which are not be supported in all environments.

Select Help > About FrameMaker to see the FM version.

To update your FM8 version, select Help > Updates.


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Hypertext Links not Working

[Heinlein, Roberta]

Stuart,

The links that aren't working were created with the hypertext option
using the Open Document command. We enter the relative address a
separate file. The cross-reference links within the file seem to still
be working.

Roberta Heinlein

SOP Specialist, Internal Audit-Corporate Compliance C-10

770-433-8211 x19827

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From: Stuart Rogers [mailto:srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 11:09 AM
To: Heinlein, Roberta
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Hypertext Links not Working

Heinlein, Roberta wrote:
> I'm having a frustrating problem with hypertext links. We create
> hypertext links in FM 7.2 to PDF files. Then we convert the FM
document
> to PDF. The links work. We place the files in Documentum where they
are
> moved to our intranet. The links work perfectly.
> 
> We just upgraded to FM 8.0. The links still work in the PDF file until
> it is moved to our intranet-then the links no longer work. We don't
want
> to have to revert back to FM 7.2 but we can't figure out how to
correct
> this problem. I have tried turning on Create Named Destinations for
All
> Paragraphs but it still doesn't work.
> 


A little more info might help.

What is the nature of the links, e.g.,
-- simple x-ref's within the same file
-- cross-file within the same book
-- cross-file to other documents not in the book
-- links to URLs
-- mailto: links
-- other hypertext commands?

Do ALL links fail, or if only some, what's different?

Are you following the identical procedure as before when creating the 
PDF files?  Using Print to Adobe PDF vs. Save As PDF?  All files open, 
including book files of cross-ref targets outside this book?  (If you 
have cross-file links, the nature of the path information saved in the 
PDF will be different depending on whether or not the target's book file

is open at the time.)  Is your folder structure the same as before?

best,


-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

srogers phoenix-geophysics com

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to beg in the streets, steal bread, or sleep under a bridge."

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Hypertext Links not Working

[Heinlein, Roberta]

Yes, the links appear to be correct in Acrobat using the Link Tool. The
link shows as an absolute link and we put relative links in the FM file.
The absolute link is correct and changes when I move the file to another
folder-still correct for that folder. The links work correctly as well,
until the file is moved to our intranet. Although the folder names are
different in the intranet, the relative position is the same.

Thank you

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[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Stuart Rogers
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 12:29 PM
To: Heinlein, Roberta
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Hypertext Links not Working

Heinlein, Roberta wrote:
> Stuart,
> 
> The links that aren't working were created with the hypertext option
> using the Open Document command. We enter the relative address a
> separate file. The cross-reference links within the file seem to still
> be working.
> 


Are the paths and filenames correct when you open/edit the links with 
the Link tool in Acrobat?

-- 
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Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

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Hypertext Links not Working

[Heinlein, Roberta]

Hallelujah! It worked. I was running on FM 8.0p236. After I installed
all of the available updates, my links are working again. Thank you,
Shlomo.  Now I can breathe again.

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From: Shlomo Perets [mailto:shlo...@microtype.com] 
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 5:59 AM
To: Heinlein, Roberta
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Hypertext Links not Working

Roberta,

You wrote:

>I'm having a frustrating problem with hypertext links. We create
>hypertext links in FM 7.2 to PDF files. Then we convert the FM document
>to PDF. The links work. We place the files in Documentum where they are
>moved to our intranet. The links work perfectly.
>
>We just upgraded to FM 8.0. The links still work in the PDF file until
>it is moved to our intranet-then the links no longer work. We don't
want
>to have to revert back to FM 7.2 but we can't figure out how to correct
>this problem. I have tried turning on Create Named Destinations for All
>Paragraphs but it still doesn't work.
>
>I'm new to the list, but I have searched the archives and haven't found
>any discussion related to this problem.


Make sure you use FM8.0p273 or later. Cross-file links in PDFs authored
in 
earlier releases of FrameMaker 8.0 use Unicode-encoded file paths and
file 
names, which are not be supported in all environments.

Select Help > About FrameMaker to see the FM version.

To update your FM8 version, select Help > Updates.


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Hypertext on a network

[Mohamed_Mahmoud/BBAD/bombard...@aero.bombardier.com]

Hi All,
I was trying to use Hypertext (Clickable links in the final PDF)  to PDF
files located on clustered network (No IP or URL) with no success.

My process:

Select text in a paragraph,
Special==> Hypertext ==> message client ==> message openfile [path]
The PDF works fin, the link is clickable but Acrobat fails to open the file
and displays the path with French characters instead of \\


My system:

XP, SP2, FM 7.2, Acrobat 7.1 Professional

Did any of you try this feature before?

Mohamed

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Hypertext on a network

[Combs, Richard]

Mohamed_Mahmoud wrote: 

> My process:
> 
> Select text in a paragraph,
> Special==> Hypertext ==> message client ==> message openfile 
> [path] The PDF works fin, the link is clickable but Acrobat 
> fails to open the file and displays the path with French 
> characters instead of \\

I don't know about the French characters, but I'm sure you need to use
forward slashes in all paths.

HTH!
Richard


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Trouble with hypertext link

[Tim Pann]

Hello all,

Frame 9, Windows XP SP3

Is anyone a good resource to help me understand the rather odd manner
that Frame 9 does hypertext links?

I'm trying to put make a hypertext link from a phrase that's a subset of
an entire line, but Frame treats the entire line as hypertext. I'm
wondering if there's a "stop" marker I should be adding?

Tim


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Trouble with hypertext link

[Steve Johnson]

Frame and/or Acrobat determine the beginning and end of a hyperlink by
a change in character tag, so try highlighting the hyperlink with any
character tag, regenerate the PDF, and see if that fixes it. If so
then choose which tag you want to use.

On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Tim Pann  wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> Frame 9, Windows XP SP3
>
> Is anyone a good resource to help me understand the rather odd manner that
> Frame 9 does hypertext links?
>
> I?m trying to put make a hypertext link from a phrase that?s a subset of an
> entire line, but Frame treats the entire line as hypertext. I?m wondering if
> there?s a ?stop? marker I should be adding?
>
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Trouble with hypertext link

[Combs, Richard]

Tim Pann wrote: 
 Is anyone a good resource to help me understand the rather odd manner
> that Frame 9 does hypertext links?
> I'm trying to put make a hypertext link from a phrase that's a subset
> of an entire line, but Frame treats the entire line as hypertext. I'm
> wondering if there's a "stop" marker I should be adding?

To elaborate a little on what Steve said: 

You don't make a hypertext link from a phrase. You insert a hypertext marker at 
a specific text location (if you have a text range selected, IIRC, the marker 
is inserted at the beginning of the range). If you work with symbols turned on 
(you should), you'll see the marker. FM extends the hotspot in both directions 
from the marker to the next char format change or, if none, to the end of the 
pgf. It's been this way since probably FM 3 or so. 

In general, you probably want your readers to _recognize_ a link, right? So you 
should apply a char tag that formats the text you want to use as the hotspot -- 
typically either blue or blue underlined. 

Best practice, IMO: Select the hotspot text and apply your Link (or whatever 
you call it) char tag. (The selected text remains selected.) Then go to Special 
> Hypertext and create the hypertext marker.

By separating the creation of the hypertext command (the marker) from the 
designation of the hotspot to which it applies, FM gives you greater control. 
If later, you decide to extend (or shrink, or rephrase) the hotspot text, you 
can do so without messing with the hypertext marker. 

HTH!

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Trouble with hypertext link

[Fred Ridder]

Richard beat me to the punch with his excellent elaboration on the way 
Hypertext links are designed to work. But I would like to add some further 
elaboration on two fairly minor points.

First, the determination of the beginning and end of the active area for a 
hyperlink (the "hot spot") is entorely done by FrameMaker. This information is 
part of what is contained in the "Acrobat data" (as in the "Generate Acrobat 
data" option in the FrameMaker Print dialog) that FrameMaker passes to Acrobat.

Second, it is not necessary for the character tag that is used to delimit the 
hyperlink hot spot to actually change the format;.the tag itself is enough. In 
other words, you can define a character tag that sets all the formatting to As 
Is and it will still work for hyperlinks. But as Richard notes, it is usually 
desirable to signal to the reader that hyperlinks actually exists at specified 
points in the text. 

-Fred Ridder


> From: richard.combs at Polycom.com
> To: TPann at telecomsys.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 00:30:42 -0700
> Subject: RE: Trouble with hypertext link
> 
> Tim Pann wrote: 
> Is anyone a good resource to help me understand the rather odd manner
> > that Frame 9 does hypertext links?
> > I'm trying to put make a hypertext link from a phrase that's a subset
> > of an entire line, but Frame treats the entire line as hypertext. I'm
> > wondering if there's a "stop" marker I should be adding?
> 
> To elaborate a little on what Steve said: 
> 
> You don't make a hypertext link from a phrase. You insert a hypertext marker 
> at a specific text location (if you have a text range selected, IIRC, the 
> marker is inserted at the beginning of the range). If you work with symbols 
> turned on (you should), you'll see the marker. FM extends the hotspot in both 
> directions from the marker to the next char format change or, if none, to the 
> end of the pgf. It's been this way since probably FM 3 or so. 
> 
> In general, you probably want your readers to _recognize_ a link, right? So 
> you should apply a char tag that formats the text you want to use as the 
> hotspot -- typically either blue or blue underlined. 
> 
> Best practice, IMO: Select the hotspot text and apply your Link (or whatever 
> you call it) char tag. (The selected text remains selected.) Then go to 
> Special > Hypertext and create the hypertext marker.
> 
> By separating the creation of the hypertext command (the marker) from the 
> designation of the hotspot to which it applies, FM gives you greater control. 
> If later, you decide to extend (or shrink, or rephrase) the hotspot text, you 
> can do so without messing with the hypertext marker. 
> 
> HTH!
> 
> Richard G. Combs
> Senior Technical Writer
> Polycom, Inc.
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Trouble with hypertext link

[Tim Pann]

Thank you Steve and Fred. That helps a lot.

I guess now the question I need to figure out an answer to is why my
posts to frameusers take two days to post. :)

Tim

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From: Steve Johnson [mailto:chinask...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 8:04 PM
To: Tim Pann
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Trouble with hypertext link

Frame and/or Acrobat determine the beginning and end of a hyperlink by
a change in character tag, so try highlighting the hyperlink with any
character tag, regenerate the PDF, and see if that fixes it. If so
then choose which tag you want to use.

On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Tim Pann  wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> Frame 9, Windows XP SP3
>
> Is anyone a good resource to help me understand the rather odd manner
that
> Frame 9 does hypertext links?
>
> I'm trying to put make a hypertext link from a phrase that's a subset
of an
> entire line, but Frame treats the entire line as hypertext. I'm
wondering if
> there's a "stop" marker I should be adding?
>
> Tim
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Hypertext links not working

[dave.st...@gdc4s.com]

2013-08-22-04T20:00Z

Windows 7 Enterprise Service Pack 1
4?GB RAM
64-bit operating system
FrameMaker 11.0.2.384
FrameMaker installed on workstation
Folder and all files on a server on the local area network in accordance with 
corporate policy

I am unable to consistently encode hypertext links among five files in one 
unstructured book.

Here's how the files are arranged:

NOTE:  The .book file and all the target files are "children" of folder 
\Abc_Def.  File BEGIN_HERE.fm is "sibling" of folder \Abc_Def and is to contain 
links to all four targets.

Folder \Abc_Def
File dir_Abc_Def.book
File targetA.fm
File targetB.fm
File targetC.fm
File targetD.fm
File BEGIN_HERE.fm

I moved File BEGIN_HERE.fm out of folder \Abc_Def because a recipient of the 
informational product (portable document format files) wants it that way.  I am 
using a character tag to constrain both the newlinks and gotolinks to small 
amounts of text.  Before I moved file BEGIN_HERE.fm out of folder \Abc_Def, 
crossreferences among all files worked flawlessly.

My latest attempt has been to specify named destinations (for example, newlink 
dir_About.fm) and jumps to named destinations (for example, gotolink 
dir_About.fm).

In the source .fm files, these jumps work only a small part of the time.  In 
the deliverable .pdf files, they don't work at all.

Dave Stamm
Information Engineer

Hypertext links not working

[dave.st...@gdc4s.com]

2013-08-23-05T11:40Z

Robert -

Thanks for the info.  I, too, haven't done this since years ago.  So
long ago, in fact that I've tracked down my materials from Shlomo
Perets' training back in 2002.

Yes, all the files are part of dir_Abc_Def.book.  The odd thing, for
myself, is that the "child" file, is outside the folder that contains
the rest of the book.

Nothing I've tried so far works, so I'm hoping that someone on the list
can help me find the "secret sauce" that I'm missing from the "recipe."

Regards,
Dave Stamm
Information Engineer
General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.

-Original Message-
From: robert.lauriston at gmail.com [mailto:robert.lauris...@gmail.com] On
Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
Sent: 2013-08-22-Thursday 16:24
To: Stamm, David-P45904
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Hypertext links not working

I haven't done that sort of thing in some years, but it used to be that
if you defined cross-references between .fm files in different
directories, all the files had to be open when you saved a book as PDF.

Also, the PDFs have to have the same relative directory relationship.
If you have ./foo/foo.book and ./bar/bar.book, links in foo.pdf will be
to ../bar/bar.pdf.

If BEGIN_HERE.pdf is generated from an .fm file instead of a .book, that
might be a problem.

On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:00 PM,   wrote:
> 2013-08-22-04T20:00Z
>
> Windows 7 Enterprise Service Pack 1
> 4 GB RAM
> 64-bit operating system
> FrameMaker 11.0.2.384
> FrameMaker installed on workstation
> Folder and all files on a server on the local area network in 
> accordance with corporate policy
>
> I am unable to consistently encode hypertext links among five files in
one unstructured book.
>
> Here's how the files are arranged:
>
> NOTE:  The .book file and all the target files are "children"
of folder \Abc_Def.  File BEGIN_HERE.fm is "sibling" of folder \Abc_Def
and is to contain links to all four targets.
>
> Folder \Abc_Def
> File dir_Abc_Def.book
> File targetA.fm
> File targetB.fm
> File targetC.fm
> File targetD.fm
> File BEGIN_HERE.fm
>
> I moved File BEGIN_HERE.fm out of folder \Abc_Def because a recipient
of the informational product (portable document format files) wants it
that way.  I am using a character tag to constrain both the newlinks and
gotolinks to small amounts of text.  Before I moved file BEGIN_HERE.fm
out of folder \Abc_Def, crossreferences among all files worked
flawlessly.
>
> My latest attempt has been to specify named destinations (for example,
newlink dir_About.fm) and jumps to named destinations (for example,
gotolink dir_About.fm).
>
> In the source .fm files, these jumps work only a small part of the
time.  In the deliverable .pdf files, they don't work at all.
>
> Dave Stamm
> Information Engineer
>
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Hypertext links not working

[Robert Lauriston]

I haven't done that sort of thing in some years, but it used to be
that if you defined cross-references between .fm files in different
directories, all the files had to be open when you saved a book as
PDF.

Also, the PDFs have to have the same relative directory relationship.
If you have ./foo/foo.book and ./bar/bar.book, links in foo.pdf will
be to ../bar/bar.pdf.

If BEGIN_HERE.pdf is generated from an .fm file instead of a .book,
that might be a problem.

On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:00 PM,   wrote:
> 2013-08-22-04T20:00Z
>
> Windows 7 Enterprise Service Pack 1
> 4 GB RAM
> 64-bit operating system
> FrameMaker 11.0.2.384
> FrameMaker installed on workstation
> Folder and all files on a server on the local area network in accordance with 
> corporate policy
>
> I am unable to consistently encode hypertext links among five files in one 
> unstructured book.
>
> Here's how the files are arranged:
>
> NOTE:  The .book file and all the target files are "children" of 
> folder \Abc_Def.  File BEGIN_HERE.fm is "sibling" of folder \Abc_Def and is 
> to contain links to all four targets.
>
> Folder \Abc_Def
> File dir_Abc_Def.book
> File targetA.fm
> File targetB.fm
> File targetC.fm
> File targetD.fm
> File BEGIN_HERE.fm
>
> I moved File BEGIN_HERE.fm out of folder \Abc_Def because a recipient of the 
> informational product (portable document format files) wants it that way.  I 
> am using a character tag to constrain both the newlinks and gotolinks to 
> small amounts of text.  Before I moved file BEGIN_HERE.fm out of folder 
> \Abc_Def, crossreferences among all files worked flawlessly.
>
> My latest attempt has been to specify named destinations (for example, 
> newlink dir_About.fm) and jumps to named destinations (for example, gotolink 
> dir_About.fm).
>
> In the source .fm files, these jumps work only a small part of the time.  In 
> the deliverable .pdf files, they don't work at all.
>
> Dave Stamm
> Information Engineer
>
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Hypertext links not working

[Robert Lauriston]

Maybe .fm files have to be in the directory containing the .book file
or a subdirectory of that directory?

On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 4:39 AM,   wrote:
> 2013-08-23-05T11:40Z
>
> Robert -
>
> Thanks for the info.  I, too, haven't done this since years ago.  So
> long ago, in fact that I've tracked down my materials from Shlomo
> Perets' training back in 2002.
>
> Yes, all the files are part of dir_Abc_Def.book.  The odd thing, for
> myself, is that the "child" file, is outside the folder that contains
> the rest of the book.
>
> Nothing I've tried so far works, so I'm hoping that someone on the list
> can help me find the "secret sauce" that I'm missing from the "recipe."
>
> Regards,
> Dave Stamm
> Information Engineer
> General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: robert.lauriston at gmail.com [mailto:robert.lauriston at gmail.com] On
> Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
> Sent: 2013-08-22-Thursday 16:24
> To: Stamm, David-P45904
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: Hypertext links not working
>
> I haven't done that sort of thing in some years, but it used to be that
> if you defined cross-references between .fm files in different
> directories, all the files had to be open when you saved a book as PDF.
>
> Also, the PDFs have to have the same relative directory relationship.
> If you have ./foo/foo.book and ./bar/bar.book, links in foo.pdf will be
> to ../bar/bar.pdf.
>
> If BEGIN_HERE.pdf is generated from an .fm file instead of a .book, that
> might be a problem.
>
> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:00 PM,   wrote:
>> 2013-08-22-04T20:00Z
>>
>> Windows 7 Enterprise Service Pack 1
>> 4 GB RAM
>> 64-bit operating system
>> FrameMaker 11.0.2.384
>> FrameMaker installed on workstation
>> Folder and all files on a server on the local area network in
>> accordance with corporate policy
>>
>> I am unable to consistently encode hypertext links among five files in
> one unstructured book.
>>
>> Here's how the files are arranged:
>>
>> NOTE:  The .book file and all the target files are "children"
> of folder \Abc_Def.  File BEGIN_HERE.fm is "sibling" of folder \Abc_Def
> and is to contain links to all four targets.
>>
>> Folder \Abc_Def
>> File dir_Abc_Def.book
>> File targetA.fm
>> File targetB.fm
>> File targetC.fm
>> File targetD.fm
>> File BEGIN_HERE.fm
>>
>> I moved File BEGIN_HERE.fm out of folder \Abc_Def because a recipient
> of the informational product (portable document format files) wants it
> that way.  I am using a character tag to constrain both the newlinks and
> gotolinks to small amounts of text.  Before I moved file BEGIN_HERE.fm
> out of folder \Abc_Def, crossreferences among all files worked
> flawlessly.
>>
>> My latest attempt has been to specify named destinations (for example,
> newlink dir_About.fm) and jumps to named destinations (for example,
> gotolink dir_About.fm).
>>
>> In the source .fm files, these jumps work only a small part of the
> time.  In the deliverable .pdf files, they don't work at all.
>>
>> Dave Stamm
>> Information Engineer
>>
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Hypertext links not working

[dave.st...@gdc4s.com]

2013-08-26-01T12:50Z



Tino ?



Thanks for your time, interest, and effort.  Unfortunately, I failed to include 
in my original posting that I must produce _separate_ .pdf files.  So, I still 
have the problem.



After I print the book to separate files, I check a link while all the files 
are in [WatchedFolder] \ out.  The links work great.  Unfortunately, after I 
move ?BEGIN_HERE.pdf? into its place and the other files into their place, the 
links don?t work.



Please note that I?m posting this to the Frame-to-Acrobat list, too.



Regards,

Dave Stamm

Information Engineer



From: Heiko Haida [mailto:i...@heiko-haida.de] 
Sent: 2013-08-23-Friday 11:31
To: Stamm, David-P45904; Framers
Subject: Re: Hypertext links not working



Hi Dave,

I just set up some files according to your description, with hyperlinks from 
each "target"-file to the others and back to the BEGIN_HERE.fm.

Well, I could see no problems within the files or in the pdf...

(My files are mainly local, but I also copied the folder to an external drive 
for the test.)

Just to make sure:

If "TargetA" is one example for a named hyperlink-destination in file 
"targetA.fm" (and so on...), and "BEGIN" is the named destination in the file 
"BEGIN_HERE.fm", the link options look like this:

Link from BEGIN_HERE.fm to the other files:gotolink 
ABC_DEF/targetA.fm:TargetA (...and so forth for B, C, and D)

Link from targetA.fm to targetB.fm:gotolink 
targetB.fm:TargetB

Link from targetA.fm back to BEGIN_HERE.fm: gotolink ..//BEGIN_HERE.fm:BEGIN

I am enclosing my PDF, if you don't mind.

Good luck...

Tino H. Haida. Berlin





Dave.Stamm at gdc4s.com:

2013-08-22-04T20:00Z

Windows 7 Enterprise Service Pack 1
4 GB RAM
64-bit operating system
FrameMaker 11.0.2.384
FrameMaker installed on workstation
Folder and all files on a server on the local area network in 
accordance with corporate policy

I am unable to consistently encode hypertext links among five files in 
one unstructured book.

Here's how the files are arranged:

  NOTE:  The .book file and all the target files are "children" of 
folder \Abc_Def.  File BEGIN_HERE.fm is "sibling" of folder \Abc_Def and is to 
contain links to all four targets.

Folder \Abc_Def
  File dir_Abc_Def.book
  File targetA.fm
  File targetB.fm
  File targetC.fm
  File targetD.fm
File BEGIN_HERE.fm

I moved File BEGIN_HERE.fm out of folder \Abc_Def because a recipient 
of the informational product (portable document format files) wants it that 
way.  I am using a character tag to constrain both the newlinks and gotolinks 
to small amounts of text.  Before I moved file BEGIN_HERE.fm out of folder 
\Abc_Def, crossreferences among all files worked flawlessly.

My latest attempt has been to specify named destinations (for example, 
newlink dir_About.fm) and jumps to named destinations (for example, gotolink 
dir_About.fm).

In the source .fm files, these jumps work only a small part of the 
time.  In the deliverable .pdf files, they don't work at all.

Dave Stamm
Information Engineer

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Hypertext Marker: Message URL

[Karen L. Zorn]

I've been using the message URL hypertext marker in a newsletter I publish
in PDF. When readers who open the file in the browser window click a link,
the destination replaces the PDF in the browser window. Is there any code
that can be added to the "message url www.whatever.com" to cause the link to
open in another instance of the browser window?

Karen L. Zorn
Zorn Technologies, Inc.
Mesa, AZ

Hypertext Marker: Message URL

[Charles Beck]

Hi Karen,

At the end of the URL, add the following code snippet:  " target="_blank

Take special note of the double qoutes and their placement. It makes a
difference.

HTH,
Chuck


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Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 6:51 PM
To: Framers List
Subject: Hypertext Marker: Message URL

I've been using the message URL hypertext marker in a newsletter I
publish in PDF. When readers who open the file in the browser window
click a link, the destination replaces the PDF in the browser window. Is
there any code that can be added to the "message url www.whatever.com"
to cause the link to open in another instance of the browser window?

Karen L. Zorn
Zorn Technologies, Inc.
Mesa, AZ

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Hypertext links not working

[Dave.Stamm]

2013-08-22-04T20:00Z

Windows 7 Enterprise Service Pack 1
4 GB RAM
64-bit operating system
FrameMaker 11.0.2.384
FrameMaker installed on workstation
Folder and all files on a server on the local area network in accordance with 
corporate policy

I am unable to consistently encode hypertext links among five files in one 
unstructured book.

Here's how the files are arranged:

NOTE:  The .book file and all the target files are "children" of folder 
\Abc_Def.  File BEGIN_HERE.fm is "sibling" of folder \Abc_Def and is to contain 
links to all four targets.

Folder \Abc_Def
File dir_Abc_Def.book
File targetA.fm
File targetB.fm
File targetC.fm
File targetD.fm
File BEGIN_HERE.fm

I moved File BEGIN_HERE.fm out of folder \Abc_Def because a recipient of the 
informational product (portable document format files) wants it that way.  I am 
using a character tag to constrain both the newlinks and gotolinks to small 
amounts of text.  Before I moved file BEGIN_HERE.fm out of folder \Abc_Def, 
crossreferences among all files worked flawlessly.

My latest attempt has been to specify named destinations (for example, newlink 
dir_About.fm) and jumps to named destinations (for example, gotolink 
dir_About.fm).

In the source .fm files, these jumps work only a small part of the time.  In 
the deliverable .pdf files, they don't work at all.

Dave Stamm
Information Engineer

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Trouble with hypertext link

[Tim Pann]

Hello all,

Frame 9, Windows XP SP3

Is anyone a good resource to help me understand the rather odd manner
that Frame 9 does hypertext links?

I'm trying to put make a hypertext link from a phrase that's a subset of
an entire line, but Frame treats the entire line as hypertext. I'm
wondering if there's a "stop" marker I should be adding?

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Hypertext on a network

[Mohamed_Mahmoud/BBAD/Bombardier]

Hi All,
I was trying to use Hypertext (Clickable links in the final PDF)  to PDF
files located on clustered network (No IP or URL) with no success.

My process:

Select text in a paragraph,
Special==> Hypertext ==> message client ==> message openfile [path]
The PDF works fin, the link is clickable but Acrobat fails to open the file
and displays the path with French characters instead of \\


My system:

XP, SP2, FM 7.2, Acrobat 7.1 Professional

Did any of you try this feature before?

Mohamed

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Re: hypertext marker problem

[Rick Henkel]

Paul Grigg wrote:
> Using Framemaker 6.0, Webworks professional 7.0
> =
>
> When you have a hypertext link in a CHM file that points to an external
> website, the default behavior is to open that website within the CHM. If you
> want the link opened in the browser, then the link needs to have
> TARGET="_NEW" appended to it. 
>
> However, when you create hypertext markers in framemaker with TARGET="_NEW"
> appended to them, the resultant link in the compiled CHM file does not work.
>
>
> Has anyone come across the problem, and is there a solution?
>   


I haven't tried this with any version of Webworks or CHM files, but when 
I run my Frame files through Flare, changing

message URL http://www.adobe.com

to

message NewURL http://www.adobe.com

creates the following hypertext link in WebHelp:

http://www.adobe.com"; target="_blank">


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Re: hypertext marker problem

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Am 04.12.2007 um 14:37 schrieb Paul Grigg:

> Using Framemaker 6.0, Webworks professional 7.0
> =
>
> When you have a hypertext link in a CHM file that points to an  
> external
> website, the default behavior is to open that website within the  
> CHM. If you
> want the link opened in the browser, then the link needs to have
> TARGET="_NEW" appended to it.
>
> However, when you create hypertext markers in framemaker with  
> TARGET="_NEW"
> appended to them, the resultant link in the compiled CHM file does  
> not work.

Oh, this last bit is a dirty trick! You write

message URL http://www.checkpoint.com target="_blank

without a trailing quote and that may give you

http://www.checkpoint.com target="_blank">

in your HTML. Dirty, dirty!

Better: You modify the Webworks Style which is handling the  
hyperlinks (Marker Style "GotoLinkOpen") to detect that you are  
creating an 'external' link (check for "http://"; in the marker text)  
and if that is the case add the target attribute.

- Michael

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Backslashes In Hypertext Commands

[Richard Pesant]

Win XP SP2, P4 Extreme Ed. 3.46GHz + 3.47GHz 2GB, FM 8.0p277

 

Thanks to Rick Quattro, I am now aware of the backslash issue in dialog
boxes and have a workaround within scripts. However, I need to create an
hypertext command and do not know how to work around this issue. The
hypertext command “openlink
D:\Docs\Products\CARDIO\DAR-9400f\M517-E063L-E099D_DAR-9400f Ops
Manuals_v3.0\D90+94_02-Overview.fm:2 998348” becomes “openlink
D:‡ocs\Products\CARDIO‡AR-9400f\sm517-E063L-E099D_DAR-9400f Ops
Manuals_v3.0‡90+94_02-Overview.fm:2 998348” where “\D” becomes “‡” and “\M”
becomes “\sm”. If I use the “openObjectId” command, the backslashes are not
replaced but the link does not work.

 

Does anyone knows a good  work around for this issue?

 

Thanks,

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Hypertext Links not Working

[Heinlein, Roberta]

I'm having a frustrating problem with hypertext links. We create
hypertext links in FM 7.2 to PDF files. Then we convert the FM document
to PDF. The links work. We place the files in Documentum where they are
moved to our intranet. The links work perfectly.

We just upgraded to FM 8.0. The links still work in the PDF file until
it is moved to our intranet-then the links no longer work. We don't want
to have to revert back to FM 7.2 but we can't figure out how to correct
this problem. I have tried turning on Create Named Destinations for All
Paragraphs but it still doesn't work.

 

I'm new to the list, but I have searched the archives and haven't found
any discussion related to this problem.

TIA

 

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770-433-8211 x19827

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Re: Formatting Hypertext Links

[Shlomo Perets]

Doug,

You wrote:


I currently am inserting hypertext links into my FM documents linking
to PDFs.  The links work fine; after I PDF Document A, the link opens
the PDF Document B in Acrobat when click the link in PDF A.

What I want to know is this:  I want the keyword I lighted when I
created the link to be formatted with blue color and underlining.  Is
there a way to add this automatically when I create the link, or do I
need to create a format with the appropriate characteristics?


Applying a character format to the link text is essential (even when you 
don't want to show the link distinctly), because it lets you limit the 
link's area. Numeric underline is recommended, as it somewhat lower 
compared to the regular underline, and also thinner.


FrameMaker lets you create the link, but does not let you control the 
visual properties of the link (as available in Acrobat): highlight style or 
border/underline associated with the link as an object.


[ With my FM-to-Acrobat TimeSavers add-on it is possible to to have an 
underline that behaves and looks differently: it can be visible on-screen 
but not printed, so that paper output is not cluttered. Properties that can 
be controlled include underline color, thickness, baseline offset, link 
highlight style.
These underlines are displayed uniformly in Acrobat, regardless of the zoom 
level; FrameMaker's underlines -- whether single or thin -- are thick and 
are displayed inconsistently (some may show up as thick and other as thin; 
zoom in or out and what was thick may now be thin and vice versa).

Acrobat/Reader 6 or higher are needed to display the PDF.
A sample PDF is available at http://www.microtype.com/showcase/VisLinks.pdf 
(60K); see http://www.microtype.com/improvePDF.html#19 for more information.
The entire active area created by cross-references and hypertext markers 
can be automatically handled this way; applying a character format is still 
needed to control the link area. ]


Shlomo Perets

MicroType, http://www.microtype.com
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RE: Hypertext Link Strangeness

[Daniel Emory]

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've got one for you.... I am making hypertext links
> active in the PDF 
> output by using a "message URL" hypertext marker. I
> use a character tag 
> to identify the text to include in the link. This
> has worked fine for me 
> in the past in unstructured docs.
> 
> I have recently noticed that in my structured doc
> the link is not 
> working the way I expect. In some cases I get only a
> part of the address 
> in the link or no active link at all.
=
My experience with converting structured docs with
hyperlinks to PDF is that the links don't work if you
insert the gotolink (or message URL marker) at the
before the first text character in a text line.
Instead, insert the marker at the end of the
highlighted text (i.e., just before the end bracket ])
delineating the end of the character tag.

The same goes for newlink markers. Namely, never
insert a newlink marker before the first text
character in text line.

I use EDD-defined structure rules to define the link
components, as follows:
=
GoToExt (a link to another FM document or URL)
The structure rule for this element consists of the
names of one or more marker-type elements:

(FmGotlink | MailLink | whatever else is needed)
Each element specified in the structure rule is
defined as being a marker of a particular type. 

Element GotoExt is defined as a text-range element and
the format rule specifies colored text.

==
GoToint (a link to a newlink marker within the same
document). The structure rule for this element is:

(FmGotolink | whatever else is needed)
Each element specified in the structure rule is
defined as being a marker of a particular type. 
=
Element NewLink (an element of type newlink marker,
which specifies the unique name of a hypertext node
within a FrameMaker document.

Obviously, no colored text is required in this case.





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Hypertext Marker: Message URL

[Karen L. Zorn]

I've been using the message URL hypertext marker in a newsletter I publish
in PDF. When readers who open the file in the browser window click a link,
the destination replaces the PDF in the browser window. Is there any code
that can be added to the "message url www.whatever.com" to cause the link to
open in another instance of the browser window?
 
Karen L. Zorn
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RE: Hypertext link problems

[Combs, Richard]

Karen L. Zorn wrote: 
  
> I'm running into problems with hypertext mailto: links. If 
> the email addy has a period, underscore, or dash in it, only 
> the addy after that mark appears on the To: line when 
> executed from the PDF. Any ideas?

No idea why it's happening, but here's something to try: Use the HTML
entity names -- "." "_" "‐" (minus the quotes, of
course) -- and see if any or all of those work. 

HTH!
Richard


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Re: Hypertext link problems

[Peter Gold]

Hi, Karen:

* Does the problem happen in FrameMaker, with Ctrl+Alt+Click, or only in 
the PDF? If the hyperlink works correctly in FrameMaker, it's likely a 
bug in Acrobat's parsing of the addresses.


* Is your Acrobat 7 updated fully? Have you tried with earlier releases 
of Reader, like 6, 5, etc?


* Have you tried not making the addresses as hyperlinks in FrameMaker, 
and turning on the Acrobat (and Reader) 7.x preference to detect links? 
Any difference?


HTH

Regards,

Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices

Karen L. Zorn wrote:

FrameMaker 7.2
Acrobat Pro 7
Windows XP
 
I'm running into problems with hypertext mailto: links. If the email addy

has a period, underscore, or dash in it, only the addy after that mark
appears on the To: line when executed from the PDF. Any ideas?
 
  


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RE: Hypertext link problems

[Karen L. Zorn]

* Does the problem happen in FrameMaker, with Ctrl+Alt+Click, or only in 
the PDF? If the hyperlink works correctly in FrameMaker, it's likely a 
bug in Acrobat's parsing of the addresses.

Works in FM, not PDF

* Is your Acrobat 7 updated fully? Have you tried with earlier releases 
of Reader, like 6, 5, etc?

Running 7.0.8, so fully updated

* Have you tried not making the addresses as hyperlinks in FrameMaker, 
and turning on the Acrobat (and Reader) 7.x preference to detect links? 
Any difference?

It seems that the email links are the ones that fail. Some work, some don't.
I went into the PDF and checked all converted links, then added the ones
that were missing. Frankly, this is a royal pain. But, if that's what it
takes!

Thanks all for the suggestions and help.

Karen L. Zorn
Zorn Technologies, Inc.
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Re: Hypertext link problems

[Peter Gold]

Hi, Karen:

Karen L. Zorn wrote:
* Does the problem happen in FrameMaker, with Ctrl+Alt+Click, or only in 
the PDF? If the hyperlink works correctly in FrameMaker, it's likely a 
bug in Acrobat's parsing of the addresses.


Works in FM, not PDF

* Is your Acrobat 7 updated fully? Have you tried with earlier releases 
of Reader, like 6, 5, etc?


Running 7.0.8, so fully updated

* Have you tried not making the addresses as hyperlinks in FrameMaker, 
and turning on the Acrobat (and Reader) 7.x preference to detect links? 
Any difference?


It seems that the email links are the ones that fail. Some work, some don't.
I went into the PDF and checked all converted links, then added the ones
that were missing. Frankly, this is a royal pain. But, if that's what it
takes!
  


I'm not clear - are you saying that the links that fail in the PDF are 
improperly constructed, rather than that Acrobat is failing to parse 
them correctly?

Thanks all for the suggestions and help.
  

Sure! I'm always curious about new things that break.

Regards,

Peter Gold
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Re: Hypertext link problems

[Shlomo Perets]

Karen,

You wrote:


FrameMaker 7.2
Acrobat Pro 7
Windows XP

I'm running into problems with hypertext mailto: links. If the email addy
has a period, underscore, or dash in it, only the addy after that mark
appears on the To: line when executed from the PDF. Any ideas?



Most likely, the problematic e-mail links are not "real links" in Acrobat; 
the activity you see is related to the "Automatically detect URLs from 
text" preference (Acrobat and Reader *7 only*: Edit > Preferences, General).


Acrobat's interpretation of text-based web addresses is problematic when 
the URL is split between lines, or when the "underlying" text is not 
recognized properly. In the case of e-mail addresses, the presence of 
characters such as dot, underscore or dash indeed causes a problem in the 
interpretation (so [EMAIL PROTECTED] is interpreted as [EMAIL PROTECTED]).


Links that are intentionally defined in FrameMaker using hypertext markers 
result in an active area, showing a 'w' or '+' in the hand icon when you 
hover above it (depending on the web capture preference). In Acrobat/Reader 
7, such links also trigger a Security Warning ("the document is trying to 
connect to the site: http://.   If you trust the site click 'Allow', 
otherwise click 'Block'." There is an option to remember your action per 
web address).


Web links that are detected automatically only show the hand icon, and do 
not trigger the Security message.


It is possible that you have a "real" link, but that its area does not 
match the corresponding text. Try activating the link tool in Acrobat to 
make sure the link area is what you expect.


It is also possible that you have e-mail markers in FrameMaker, but that 
there is a problem with the syntax of some markers, or they may have the 
wrong type (when using Special > Marker, FrameMaker changes the default 
marker type based on markers present in the selected text area, so it's too 
easy to try and insert a hypertext marker but end up inserting an Index or 
Cross-Ref).



Shlomo Perets

MicroType, http://www.microtype.com * ToolbarPlus Express for FrameMaker
FrameMaker/Acrobat training & consulting * FrameMaker-to-Acrobat 
TimeSavers/Assistants

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Help: Hypertext command "popup menu"

[Stephen O'Brien]

Hi,

I use hypertext commands in the header area of a 
FM 8 document (latest patch) to display a menu 
(ex. Snacks) with two submenus (ex. Fruits and Vegetables). See example below:

Snacks
[Fruits]...Apple
 Orange
 Banana
[Vegetables]...Carrot
Potato

The commands on each submenu (a name with a link 
to a URL) show when I click a submenu name, but 
only the items in the first submenu, when 
clicked, actually work (open the URL). So, 
clicking Apple works, but not Carrot or Potato (and veggies are important!).

Any ideas? I really need a second and a third submenu!!

See, I am conceiving a header area of a FM 
document (it automatically loads on starting FM) 
that would provide access via menus/submenus to 
all Documentation ressources (books, documents, 
Excel files, Web sites, etc.). Makes it easy to 
add new ressources and explain them to new tech 
writers without having to browse subdirectory 
structures, create Windows shortcuts, etc.

Thanks for any help!!

Stephen O'Brien
R?dacteur technique senior / Senior Technical Writer
InnovMetric Logiciels inc. / InnovMetric Software Inc.
2014, Cyrille-Duquet, suite 310
Qu?bec (Qu?bec) Canada G1N 4N6

Tel.: (418) 688-2061
Fax: (418) 688-3001
E-mail: sobrien at innovmetric.com
www.innovmetric.com
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Help: Hypertext command "popup menu"

[Matt Sullivan]

Hi Stephen,


Have you isolated the individual markers with separate paragraphs or with
character tags? If you have multiple markers within the same para, FM (IIRC)
only recognizes the first.

-Matt



Matt Sullivan
GRAFIX Training & Consulting

office 714 960-6840

cell 714 585-2335

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Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 1:21 PM
To: framers at frameusers.com; framers at omsys.com
Subject: Help: Hypertext command "popup menu"

Hi,

I use hypertext commands in the header area of a 
FM 8 document (latest patch) to display a menu 
(ex. Snacks) with two submenus (ex. Fruits and Vegetables). See example
below:

Snacks
[Fruits]...Apple
 Orange
 Banana
[Vegetables]...Carrot
Potato

The commands on each submenu (a name with a link 
to a URL) show when I click a submenu name, but 
only the items in the first submenu, when 
clicked, actually work (open the URL). So, 
clicking Apple works, but not Carrot or Potato (and veggies are important!).

Any ideas? I really need a second and a third submenu!!

See, I am conceiving a header area of a FM 
document (it automatically loads on starting FM) 
that would provide access via menus/submenus to 
all Documentation ressources (books, documents, 
Excel files, Web sites, etc.). Makes it easy to 
add new ressources and explain them to new tech 
writers without having to browse subdirectory 
structures, create Windows shortcuts, etc.

Thanks for any help!!

Stephen O'Brien
R?dacteur technique senior / Senior Technical Writer
InnovMetric Logiciels inc. / InnovMetric Software Inc.
2014, Cyrille-Duquet, suite 310
Qu?bec (Qu?bec) Canada G1N 4N6

Tel.: (418) 688-2061
Fax: (418) 688-3001
E-mail: sobrien at innovmetric.com
www.innovmetric.com
PolyWorks, the Universal 3D Metrology Software Platform for Manufacturing
(TM)

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Help: Hypertext command "popup menu"

[Stephen O'Brien]

Each submenu item (ex. Apple) is on a separate 
line on a reference page (whose workflow name is used by the popup command).

I make sure the proper paragraph format is applied.

I use the same approach fo the second submenu as for the first.

Have you tried and gotten two submenus to work (their commands that is)?

Thanks.

At 04:38 PM 16/01/2009, Matt Sullivan wrote:
>Hi Stephen,
>
>
>Have you isolated the individual markers with separate paragraphs or with
>character tags? If you have multiple markers within the same para, FM (IIRC)
>only recognizes the first.
>
>-Matt
>
>
>
>Matt Sullivan
>GRAFIX Training & Consulting
>
>office 714 960-6840
>
>cell 714 585-2335
>
>-Original Message-
>From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
>[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Stephen O'Brien
>Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 1:21 PM
>To: framers at frameusers.com; framers at omsys.com
>Subject: Help: Hypertext command "popup menu"
>
>Hi,
>
>I use hypertext commands in the header area of a
>FM 8 document (latest patch) to display a menu
>(ex. Snacks) with two submenus (ex. Fruits and Vegetables). See example
>below:
>
>Snacks
> [Fruits]...Apple
>  Orange
>  Banana
> [Vegetables]...Carrot
> Potato
>
>The commands on each submenu (a name with a link
>to a URL) show when I click a submenu name, but
>only the items in the first submenu, when
>clicked, actually work (open the URL). So,
>clicking Apple works, but not Carrot or Potato (and veggies are important!).
>
>Any ideas? I really need a second and a third submenu!!
>
>See, I am conceiving a header area of a FM
>document (it automatically loads on starting FM)
>that would provide access via menus/submenus to
>all Documentation ressources (books, documents,
>Excel files, Web sites, etc.). Makes it easy to
>add new ressources and explain them to new tech
>writers without having to browse subdirectory
>structures, create Windows shortcuts, etc.
>
>Thanks for any help!!
>
>Stephen O'Brien
>R?dacteur technique senior / Senior Technical Writer
>InnovMetric Logiciels inc. / InnovMetric Software Inc.
>2014, Cyrille-Duquet, suite 310
>Qu?bec (Qu?bec) Canada G1N 4N6
>
>Tel.: (418) 688-2061
>Fax: (418) 688-3001
>E-mail: sobrien at innovmetric.com
>www.innovmetric.com
>PolyWorks, the Universal 3D Metrology Software Platform for Manufacturing
>(TM)
>
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Qu?bec (Qu?bec) Canada G1N 4N6

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Help: Hypertext command "popup menu"

[Matt Sullivan]

So they are separate para's, not just separate lines?

I'd be happy to take a peek if you can send an example my way.

-Matt



Matt Sullivan
GRAFIX Training & Consulting

office 714 960-6840

cell 714 585-2335


-Original Message-
From: Stephen O'Brien [mailto:sobr...@innovmetric.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 2:22 PM
To: Matt Sullivan; 'Stephen O'Brien'; framers at frameusers.com;
framers at omsys.com
Subject: RE: Help: Hypertext command "popup menu"

Each submenu item (ex. Apple) is on a separate 
line on a reference page (whose workflow name is used by the popup command).

I make sure the proper paragraph format is applied.

I use the same approach fo the second submenu as for the first.

Have you tried and gotten two submenus to work (their commands that is)?

Thanks.

At 04:38 PM 16/01/2009, Matt Sullivan wrote:
>Hi Stephen,
>
>
>Have you isolated the individual markers with separate paragraphs or with
>character tags? If you have multiple markers within the same para, FM
(IIRC)
>only recognizes the first.
>
>-Matt
>
>
>
>Matt Sullivan
>GRAFIX Training & Consulting
>
>office 714 960-6840
>
>cell 714 585-2335
>
>-Original Message-
>From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
>[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Stephen O'Brien
>Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 1:21 PM
>To: framers at frameusers.com; framers at omsys.com
>Subject: Help: Hypertext command "popup menu"
>
>Hi,
>
>I use hypertext commands in the header area of a
>FM 8 document (latest patch) to display a menu
>(ex. Snacks) with two submenus (ex. Fruits and Vegetables). See example
>below:
>
>Snacks
> [Fruits]...Apple
>  Orange
>  Banana
> [Vegetables]...Carrot
> Potato
>
>The commands on each submenu (a name with a link
>to a URL) show when I click a submenu name, but
>only the items in the first submenu, when
>clicked, actually work (open the URL). So,
>clicking Apple works, but not Carrot or Potato (and veggies are
important!).
>
>Any ideas? I really need a second and a third submenu!!
>
>See, I am conceiving a header area of a FM
>document (it automatically loads on starting FM)
>that would provide access via menus/submenus to
>all Documentation ressources (books, documents,
>Excel files, Web sites, etc.). Makes it easy to
>add new ressources and explain them to new tech
>writers without having to browse subdirectory
>structures, create Windows shortcuts, etc.
>
>Thanks for any help!!
>
>Stephen O'Brien
>R?dacteur technique senior / Senior Technical Writer
>InnovMetric Logiciels inc. / InnovMetric Software Inc.
>2014, Cyrille-Duquet, suite 310
>Qu?bec (Qu?bec) Canada G1N 4N6
>
>Tel.: (418) 688-2061
>Fax: (418) 688-3001
>E-mail: sobrien at innovmetric.com
>www.innovmetric.com
>PolyWorks, the Universal 3D Metrology Software Platform for Manufacturing
>(TM)
>
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Hypertext Links to Excel Worksheets?

[Ted Poulos]

Does anyone know if it is possible, and, if so, the correct syntax for a 
hypertext link from a FrameMaker doc to an Excel worksheet?
Message openfile  successfully opens the Excel workbook, but I 
want to designate a specific tab (worksheet) in the workbook as my destination.

Thanks,

Ted Poulos

Hypertext Links to Excel Worksheets?

[David Spreadbury]

Ted,
I don't know if this will help, but the Excel2007 Help provides the
following information on linking to a specific sheet within a workbook:

Note   You may find it more convenient to create an external reference link
without opening the workbook on the Web. For each cell in the destination
workbook where you want the external reference link, click the cell, and
then type an equal sign (=), the URL (Uniform Resource Locator (URL): An
address that specifies a protocol (such as HTTP or FTP) and a location of an
object, document, World Wide Web page, or other destination on the Internet
or an intranet, for example: http://www.microsoft.com/.) address, and the
location in the workbook. For example: 

='http://www.someones.homepage/[file.xls]Sheet1'!A1

Note that the link has a keyword 'Sheetx'. I would think that Frame could
use this syntax in openfile .

Maybe something like:

Message openfile \workbooks\myworkbook.xlsSheetx!A1

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Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 8:03 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Hypertext Links to Excel Worksheets?

Does anyone know if it is possible, and, if so, the correct syntax for a 
hypertext link from a FrameMaker doc to an Excel worksheet?
Message openfile  successfully opens the Excel workbook, but I 
want to designate a specific tab (worksheet) in the workbook as my
destination.

Thanks,

Ted Poulos

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Hypertext/Linking Problems and WebWorks

[Kristy Nolan]

Hi, all!

I have a manual that we are trying to clean up past formatting issues.
According to what I have read (I don't know much about this function), I
can link to other documents using the Hypertext dialog box, choosing the
"Go to URL Command" and entering the actual address. This works fine in
Frame when I save as View Only and when I save as PDF. These look nicer
in my draft document too, with just the link in blue.

However, this manual actually gets published by running it through
WebWorks Publisher Pro (yes, older). All of the links I have set up the
above way don't work. All of the older format links do. Those older
links look something like this:
https://www.life.com/guidelines.pdf"; target="_blank">Guidelines
for Leaders
This confuses many of the people who are reviewing these as PDFs,
wanting to know why this "garbage" is in there, and what is really what
they'll see.

So, how do I get it to look nice on the draft side, and still work and
look right on the publish side?

Thanks for any and all advice!
Kristy

Kristy Nolan
Manager, Ground Operations
Central Publications HDQ-1CP
Southwest Airlines
2702 Love Field Dr.
Dallas, TX 75235






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Hypertext/Linking Problems and WebWorks

[Kristy Nolan]

I wanted to clarify - the html text isn't showing up in the
post-WebWorks-ed files, only in the original Frame docs, and
corresponding PDFs.
K

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Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 9:04 AM
To: Frame Users
Subject: Hypertext/Linking Problems and WebWorks

Hi, all!

I have a manual that we are trying to clean up past formatting issues.
According to what I have read (I don't know much about this function), I
can link to other documents using the Hypertext dialog box, choosing the
"Go to URL Command" and entering the actual address. This works fine in
Frame when I save as View Only and when I save as PDF. These look nicer
in my draft document too, with just the link in blue.

However, this manual actually gets published by running it through
WebWorks Publisher Pro (yes, older). All of the links I have set up the
above way don't work. All of the older format links do. Those older
links look something like this:
https://www.life.com/guidelines.pdf"; target="_blank">Guidelines
for Leaders This confuses many of the people who are reviewing these
as PDFs, wanting to know why this "garbage" is in there, and what is
really what they'll see.

So, how do I get it to look nice on the draft side, and still work and
look right on the publish side?

Thanks for any and all advice!
Kristy

Kristy Nolan
Manager, Ground Operations
Central Publications HDQ-1CP
Southwest Airlines
2702 Love Field Dr.
Dallas, TX 75235






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Hypertext/Linking Problems and WebWorks

[Stuart Rogers]

Kristy Nolan wrote:
> I wanted to clarify - the html text isn't showing up in the
> post-WebWorks-ed files, only in the original Frame docs, and
> corresponding PDFs.
> K
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Kristy Nolan
> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 9:04 AM
> To: Frame Users
> Subject: Hypertext/Linking Problems and WebWorks
> 
> Hi, all!
> 
> I have a manual that we are trying to clean up past formatting issues.
> According to what I have read (I don't know much about this function), I
> can link to other documents using the Hypertext dialog box, choosing the
> "Go to URL Command" and entering the actual address. This works fine in
> Frame when I save as View Only and when I save as PDF. These look nicer
> in my draft document too, with just the link in blue.
> 
> However, this manual actually gets published by running it through
> WebWorks Publisher Pro (yes, older). All of the links I have set up the
> above way don't work. All of the older format links do. Those older
> links look something like this:
> https://www.life.com/guidelines.pdf"; target="_blank">Guidelines
> for Leaders This confuses many of the people who are reviewing these
> as PDFs, wanting to know why this "garbage" is in there, and what is
> really what they'll see.
> 
> So, how do I get it to look nice on the draft side, and still work and
> look right on the publish side?
> 
> Thanks for any and all advice!
> Kristy
> 


I can think of two solutions:

1)  Create two condition tags (e.g., Draft, Publish) and duplicate every 
link, once for each style; tag with the appropriate condition and 
show/hide appropriately before sending to WWPP or Distiller.

2)  Publish to WWPP and then use
Acrobat File > Create PDF > From Multiple Files
or > From Web Page
depending on WWPP's output.

(Neither is very appealing in terms of workload/maintenance or 
usability.  Can't you just educate your reviewers??)

HTH,

-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

srogers phoenix-geophysics com

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Hypertext markers: possible FM9 bug

[Roger Shuttleworth]

Hello All

Using FM9.0 p250 on Windows XP Pro SP3. Structured Authoring environment, DITA 
DTD.

We've come across a rather strange phenomenon when using hypertext markers. 
Here's the scenario:

1. Add a topic element and several nested tasks, concepts, etc.
2. In one paragraph, add an fm-xref element. When the DITA CROSS-REFERENCE 
dialog appears, click External Xref.
3. In the small dialog box, add the URL and the cross-ref text, e.g. "website", 
and click OK. The xref is inserted as a xref element (not fm-xref) and a 
messageURL hypertext marker is added, and the word "website" is a live link.
4. Add some more text in the same paragraph, immediately after the hypertext 
marker.

Now I can use the right-arrow key to move right, but I can't move the 
left-arrow key - the cursed cursor won't move to the left. Using the backspace 
key is problematic too. I can click in the previous text and move right, but 
not left.

I thought perhaps this was only happening on my (fairly old) machine, but my 
colleague has also noticed it on a new Vista box with lots of RAM.

Can anyone confirm this?

Roger

Roger Shuttleworth
Technical Documentation
AV-BASE Systems Inc.
1000 Air Ontario Drive, Suite 200
London, Ontario
N5V 3S4
Tel. 519 691-0919 ext. 330

RE. Hypertext on a network

[Mohamed_Mahmoud/BBAD/bombard...@aero.bombardier.com]

Thanks Richard. This is what I was using with the results I mentioned
earlier.

Mohamed

>I don't know about the French characters, but I'm sure you need to use
forward slashes in all paths.

HTH!
Richard

Hypertext can't find target doc

[Butler, Darren J CTR USAF AFMC 584 CBSS/GBHAC]

FM.8.0, Windows XP



When using the Hypertext Command "Open Document" and adding the target file 
name to the syntax, I get a "file does not exist error message" and the target 
filename gets truncated. Is there a limit to the filename length?

Hypertext can't find target doc

[Rick Quatro]

Are you using forward slashes in the file path? You need to use forward 
slashes instead of back slashes.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com



> FM.8.0, Windows XP
>
>
>
> When using the Hypertext Command "Open Document" and adding the target 
> file name to the syntax, I get a "file does not exist error message" and 
> the target filename gets truncated. Is there a limit to the filename 
> length?
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Rename Files - Was Hypertext command

[FCI Info]

The best - and cheaper - program to rename files is 
Bulk Rename Utility. 
As I know it's the only that has correct support to regular expressions.

Only a satisfied customer.

Furia

>For now I remane the PDF file and replace the
>apostrophe by undescore, but it's manual and not
>practical.

Rename Files - Was Hypertext command

[Robert Rogge]

Yes, Bulk Rename Utility is a lifesaver sometimes.

On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 11:15 PM, FCI Info  wrote:

> The best - and cheaper - program to rename files is
> Bulk Rename Utility.
> As I know it's the only that has correct support to regular expressions.
>
> Only a satisfied customer.
>
> Furia
>
> >For now I remane the PDF file and replace the
> >apostrophe by undescore, but it's manual and not
> >practical.
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