Now OT: Re: Question about these frameusers lists
At 13:17 +1200 23/6/13, Helen Borrie wrote: >On the lists I manage, there are some users who are just plain hopeless at >using the lists. They post bulky, fancy, junky HTML when list etiquette >really needs more consideration for others ( P L A I N T E X T without >screeds of company notices and adverts) and they include huge graphics as >attachments because they are too darned lazy to copy just the text of error >messages. Most lists are set up to put large messages on hold. The high limit >is usually set pretty low, about 1 - 5 KB. I know this isn't relevant here, but I just shouted 'YES!, YES!' when I read this. I don't know whether it's some Microshaft default thing, and/or Yahoo's infuriatingly massive padding of mail headers, and/or laziness, but I see so much junk these days (although not here much). For example, I have a neighbour who spends most of his time working in France. He has been known to send me e-mails with four or five of his own (long) e-mails appended. I guess those using HTML mail don't see it all, but I do in steam-driven but totally lovely Eudora. I have seen e-mails of 15-20k (or even more, and sometimes *much* more) containing only a single relevant line of message. My default sig below was to try to make people aware of this issue, but it has so far failed dismally. All this cr*p has to be stored somewhere, which takes disk space, which takes resources and energy, which is so far mostly generated from polluting sources. It's good to know that I'm not a lone voice crying in the wilderness. I like you, Helen, even though I don't know you. -- Steve [Trim e-mails: use less disk, use less power, use less planet]
Now OT: Re: Question about these frameusers lists
At 13:17 +1200 23/6/13, Helen Borrie wrote: >On the lists I manage, there are some users who are just plain hopeless at >using the lists. They post bulky, fancy, junky HTML when list etiquette >really needs more consideration for others ( P L A I N T E X T without >screeds of company notices and adverts) and they include huge graphics as >attachments because they are too darned lazy to copy just the text of error >messages. Most lists are set up to put large messages on hold. The high limit >is usually set pretty low, about 1 - 5 KB. I know this isn't relevant here, but I just shouted 'YES!, YES!' when I read this. I don't know whether it's some Microshaft default thing, and/or Yahoo's infuriatingly massive padding of mail headers, and/or laziness, but I see so much junk these days (although not here much). For example, I have a neighbour who spends most of his time working in France. He has been known to send me e-mails with four or five of his own (long) e-mails appended. I guess those using HTML mail don't see it all, but I do in steam-driven but totally lovely Eudora. I have seen e-mails of 15-20k (or even more, and sometimes *much* more) containing only a single relevant line of message. My default sig below was to try to make people aware of this issue, but it has so far failed dismally. All this cr*p has to be stored somewhere, which takes disk space, which takes resources and energy, which is so far mostly generated from polluting sources. It's good to know that I'm not a lone voice crying in the wilderness. I like you, Helen, even though I don't know you. -- Steve [Trim e-mails: use less disk, use less power, use less planet] ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
