Printing to PS and distilling to PDF question
Thanks, Dov. Very illuminating. Bodvar Bjorgvinsson 2010/3/8 Dov Isaacs : > A few comments about this issue: > > (1) ? ? The Adobe PDF PostScript printer driver instance used to create PDF > explicitly by printing or implicitly by the FrameMaker "save as PDF" > feature has a special option in its "driver plug-in" component labeled > "Rely on system fonts only; do not use document fonts." This option is > accessed as follows from the "Adobe PDF" printer: > > ? ? ? ?Adobe PDF=>Properties=>Advanced (tab)=>Printing Defaults=> > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Adobe PDF Settings (tab) > > as well as from: > > ? ? ? ?Adobe PDF=>Properties=>General (tab)=>Printing Preferences=> > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Adobe PDF Settings (tab) > > Both of these areas need to be set the same way although usually, setting > via the Printing Defaults method sets the Printing Preferences (but don't > count on it!). > > (2) ? ? The function of this option is (supposedly) very simple. If the > option is enabled, the driver does not put any fonts into the PostScript > stream to be distilled. Why is this important or useful? It turns out that > the PostScript generated by the Windows PostScript driver, PSCRIPT5, and > especially the inclusion of fonts in that PostScript stream, is optimized > for consumption by a PostScript printer, not for creation of PDF. The > driver includes incrementally downloaded font fragments which is not > optimal for the Distiller and could cause problems later in a workflow > when trying to merge PDF file fragments together. When this option is > checked on, the driver puts no fonts in the PostScript; the Distiller > itself finds the fonts and puts them into the PDF file in a more > cohesive, organized manner. > > (3) ? ? There are situations, however, that cause problems The first of these > situation is when fonts are passed through to the driver by what is known > as the driver "PostScript escape mechanism." This is the means by which > EPS (or by extension, PDF) placed in a FrameMaker document is passed through > the driver to the final PostScript stream and many such EPS (or PDF) files > have embedded fonts which are then encountered by the driver. In FrameMaker 9, > if you don't use the RGB option for the "save as PDF" feature, FrameMaker's > UNIX PostScript generator (the entity responsible for creating CMYK > PostScript) > also embed fonts in the PostScript stream it in generating. In either case, if > the driver senses these fonts being passed through when the "rely on system > fonts only" option is enabled, it throws up (guess that's a good way of > putting it) the error message requiring you to turn off that option. > > (4) ? ? The second problematic situation is that of applications that > privately > install fonts. There are two examples of this. Microsoft Office application > documents have the ability to carry embedded TrueType and OpenType (TrueType > flavor only) fonts if and only if such fonts allow full embedability. When > Office applications open such documents, they privately install those > embedded fonts for your use while editing the document. Similarly, if you > try to print a font sample for a font that isn't installed on your system > (i.e., you double-click on a font icon and print from the font preview > presented by Windows), the font preview function temporarily privately > installs > the font. The nasty however is that, privately installed fonts are passed > through > Windows GDI and the driver (resulting in their embedding in the PostScript > stream), > but cannot be seen by the Distiller which is run in a separate system process > and cannot access (or even know about) the privately installed fonts. In this > situation, you don't know what's going on until you get either a Distiller > warning > or error (depending upon you joboptions). > > (5) ? ? There is a known bug in the Acrobat updater that totally resets all > your > printer settings for the "Adobe PDF" PostScript printer driver instance every > time you update Acrobat. These days, in order to stay ahead of the hackers, > the > Acrobat group at Adobe has been issuing updates on an almost monthly basis > which > means that every time you update Acrobat, you had better follow that with > resetting > all the "Adobe PDF" settings to your own preference. That includes the default > joboptions used for the distillation process. > > Clear as mud? > > ? ? ? ?- Dov > > >> -Original Message- >> From: Tammy Van Boening >> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 6:07 AM >> To: framers at lists.frameusers.co
Re: Printing to PS and distilling to PDF question
Thanks, Dov. Very illuminating. Bodvar Bjorgvinsson 2010/3/8 Dov Isaacs : > A few comments about this issue: > > (1) The Adobe PDF PostScript printer driver instance used to create PDF > explicitly by printing or implicitly by the FrameMaker "save as PDF" > feature has a special option in its "driver plug-in" component labeled > "Rely on system fonts only; do not use document fonts." This option is > accessed as follows from the "Adobe PDF" printer: > > Adobe PDF=>Properties=>Advanced (tab)=>Printing Defaults=> > Adobe PDF Settings (tab) > > as well as from: > > Adobe PDF=>Properties=>General (tab)=>Printing Preferences=> > Adobe PDF Settings (tab) > > Both of these areas need to be set the same way although usually, setting > via the Printing Defaults method sets the Printing Preferences (but don't > count on it!). > > (2) The function of this option is (supposedly) very simple. If the > option is enabled, the driver does not put any fonts into the PostScript > stream to be distilled. Why is this important or useful? It turns out that > the PostScript generated by the Windows PostScript driver, PSCRIPT5, and > especially the inclusion of fonts in that PostScript stream, is optimized > for consumption by a PostScript printer, not for creation of PDF. The > driver includes incrementally downloaded font fragments which is not > optimal for the Distiller and could cause problems later in a workflow > when trying to merge PDF file fragments together. When this option is > checked on, the driver puts no fonts in the PostScript; the Distiller > itself finds the fonts and puts them into the PDF file in a more > cohesive, organized manner. > > (3) There are situations, however, that cause problems The first of these > situation is when fonts are passed through to the driver by what is known > as the driver "PostScript escape mechanism." This is the means by which > EPS (or by extension, PDF) placed in a FrameMaker document is passed through > the driver to the final PostScript stream and many such EPS (or PDF) files > have embedded fonts which are then encountered by the driver. In FrameMaker 9, > if you don't use the RGB option for the "save as PDF" feature, FrameMaker's > UNIX PostScript generator (the entity responsible for creating CMYK > PostScript) > also embed fonts in the PostScript stream it in generating. In either case, if > the driver senses these fonts being passed through when the "rely on system > fonts only" option is enabled, it throws up (guess that's a good way of > putting it) the error message requiring you to turn off that option. > > (4) The second problematic situation is that of applications that > privately > install fonts. There are two examples of this. Microsoft Office application > documents have the ability to carry embedded TrueType and OpenType (TrueType > flavor only) fonts if and only if such fonts allow full embedability. When > Office applications open such documents, they privately install those > embedded fonts for your use while editing the document. Similarly, if you > try to print a font sample for a font that isn't installed on your system > (i.e., you double-click on a font icon and print from the font preview > presented by Windows), the font preview function temporarily privately > installs > the font. The nasty however is that, privately installed fonts are passed > through > Windows GDI and the driver (resulting in their embedding in the PostScript > stream), > but cannot be seen by the Distiller which is run in a separate system process > and cannot access (or even know about) the privately installed fonts. In this > situation, you don't know what's going on until you get either a Distiller > warning > or error (depending upon you joboptions). > > (5) There is a known bug in the Acrobat updater that totally resets all > your > printer settings for the "Adobe PDF" PostScript printer driver instance every > time you update Acrobat. These days, in order to stay ahead of the hackers, > the > Acrobat group at Adobe has been issuing updates on an almost monthly basis > which > means that every time you update Acrobat, you had better follow that with > resetting > all the "Adobe PDF" settings to your own preference. That includes the default > joboptions used for the distillation process. > > Clear as mud? > > - Dov > > >> -Original Message- >> From: Tammy Van Boening >> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 6:07 AM >> To: framers@lists.frameusers.co
RE: Printing to PS and distilling to PDF question
A few comments about this issue: (1) The Adobe PDF PostScript printer driver instance used to create PDF explicitly by printing or implicitly by the FrameMaker "save as PDF" feature has a special option in its "driver plug-in" component labeled "Rely on system fonts only; do not use document fonts." This option is accessed as follows from the "Adobe PDF" printer: Adobe PDF=>Properties=>Advanced (tab)=>Printing Defaults=> Adobe PDF Settings (tab) as well as from: Adobe PDF=>Properties=>General (tab)=>Printing Preferences=> Adobe PDF Settings (tab) Both of these areas need to be set the same way although usually, setting via the Printing Defaults method sets the Printing Preferences (but don't count on it!). (2) The function of this option is (supposedly) very simple. If the option is enabled, the driver does not put any fonts into the PostScript stream to be distilled. Why is this important or useful? It turns out that the PostScript generated by the Windows PostScript driver, PSCRIPT5, and especially the inclusion of fonts in that PostScript stream, is optimized for consumption by a PostScript printer, not for creation of PDF. The driver includes incrementally downloaded font fragments which is not optimal for the Distiller and could cause problems later in a workflow when trying to merge PDF file fragments together. When this option is checked on, the driver puts no fonts in the PostScript; the Distiller itself finds the fonts and puts them into the PDF file in a more cohesive, organized manner. (3) There are situations, however, that cause problems The first of these situation is when fonts are passed through to the driver by what is known as the driver "PostScript escape mechanism." This is the means by which EPS (or by extension, PDF) placed in a FrameMaker document is passed through the driver to the final PostScript stream and many such EPS (or PDF) files have embedded fonts which are then encountered by the driver. In FrameMaker 9, if you don't use the RGB option for the "save as PDF" feature, FrameMaker's UNIX PostScript generator (the entity responsible for creating CMYK PostScript) also embed fonts in the PostScript stream it in generating. In either case, if the driver senses these fonts being passed through when the "rely on system fonts only" option is enabled, it throws up (guess that's a good way of putting it) the error message requiring you to turn off that option. (4) The second problematic situation is that of applications that privately install fonts. There are two examples of this. Microsoft Office application documents have the ability to carry embedded TrueType and OpenType (TrueType flavor only) fonts if and only if such fonts allow full embedability. When Office applications open such documents, they privately install those embedded fonts for your use while editing the document. Similarly, if you try to print a font sample for a font that isn't installed on your system (i.e., you double-click on a font icon and print from the font preview presented by Windows), the font preview function temporarily privately installs the font. The nasty however is that, privately installed fonts are passed through Windows GDI and the driver (resulting in their embedding in the PostScript stream), but cannot be seen by the Distiller which is run in a separate system process and cannot access (or even know about) the privately installed fonts. In this situation, you don't know what's going on until you get either a Distiller warning or error (depending upon you joboptions). (5) There is a known bug in the Acrobat updater that totally resets all your printer settings for the "Adobe PDF" PostScript printer driver instance every time you update Acrobat. These days, in order to stay ahead of the hackers, the Acrobat group at Adobe has been issuing updates on an almost monthly basis which means that every time you update Acrobat, you had better follow that with resetting all the "Adobe PDF" settings to your own preference. That includes the default joboptions used for the distillation process. Clear as mud? - Dov > -----Original Message- > From: Tammy Van Boening > Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 6:07 AM > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com; Free Framers > Subject: Printing to PS and distilling to PDF question > > All, > > FM9 (all patched), Win7/64 bit system, Adobe Acrobat Pro 9. Several months > ago, after upgrading to all the listed hardware/software, I started having > issues with printing to PS and distilling the PS files to PDF using very > staid, well-established files that had never given me issue before. I was > receiving that contradictory message about "Rely on system fonts only; do >
Printing to PS and distilling to PDF question
A few comments about this issue: (1) The Adobe PDF PostScript printer driver instance used to create PDF explicitly by printing or implicitly by the FrameMaker "save as PDF" feature has a special option in its "driver plug-in" component labeled "Rely on system fonts only; do not use document fonts." This option is accessed as follows from the "Adobe PDF" printer: Adobe PDF=>Properties=>Advanced (tab)=>Printing Defaults=> Adobe PDF Settings (tab) as well as from: Adobe PDF=>Properties=>General (tab)=>Printing Preferences=> Adobe PDF Settings (tab) Both of these areas need to be set the same way although usually, setting via the Printing Defaults method sets the Printing Preferences (but don't count on it!). (2) The function of this option is (supposedly) very simple. If the option is enabled, the driver does not put any fonts into the PostScript stream to be distilled. Why is this important or useful? It turns out that the PostScript generated by the Windows PostScript driver, PSCRIPT5, and especially the inclusion of fonts in that PostScript stream, is optimized for consumption by a PostScript printer, not for creation of PDF. The driver includes incrementally downloaded font fragments which is not optimal for the Distiller and could cause problems later in a workflow when trying to merge PDF file fragments together. When this option is checked on, the driver puts no fonts in the PostScript; the Distiller itself finds the fonts and puts them into the PDF file in a more cohesive, organized manner. (3) There are situations, however, that cause problems The first of these situation is when fonts are passed through to the driver by what is known as the driver "PostScript escape mechanism." This is the means by which EPS (or by extension, PDF) placed in a FrameMaker document is passed through the driver to the final PostScript stream and many such EPS (or PDF) files have embedded fonts which are then encountered by the driver. In FrameMaker 9, if you don't use the RGB option for the "save as PDF" feature, FrameMaker's UNIX PostScript generator (the entity responsible for creating CMYK PostScript) also embed fonts in the PostScript stream it in generating. In either case, if the driver senses these fonts being passed through when the "rely on system fonts only" option is enabled, it throws up (guess that's a good way of putting it) the error message requiring you to turn off that option. (4) The second problematic situation is that of applications that privately install fonts. There are two examples of this. Microsoft Office application documents have the ability to carry embedded TrueType and OpenType (TrueType flavor only) fonts if and only if such fonts allow full embedability. When Office applications open such documents, they privately install those embedded fonts for your use while editing the document. Similarly, if you try to print a font sample for a font that isn't installed on your system (i.e., you double-click on a font icon and print from the font preview presented by Windows), the font preview function temporarily privately installs the font. The nasty however is that, privately installed fonts are passed through Windows GDI and the driver (resulting in their embedding in the PostScript stream), but cannot be seen by the Distiller which is run in a separate system process and cannot access (or even know about) the privately installed fonts. In this situation, you don't know what's going on until you get either a Distiller warning or error (depending upon you joboptions). (5) There is a known bug in the Acrobat updater that totally resets all your printer settings for the "Adobe PDF" PostScript printer driver instance every time you update Acrobat. These days, in order to stay ahead of the hackers, the Acrobat group at Adobe has been issuing updates on an almost monthly basis which means that every time you update Acrobat, you had better follow that with resetting all the "Adobe PDF" settings to your own preference. That includes the default joboptions used for the distillation process. Clear as mud? - Dov > -Original Message----- > From: Tammy Van Boening > Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 6:07 AM > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com; Free Framers > Subject: Printing to PS and distilling to PDF question > > All, > > FM9 (all patched), Win7/64 bit system, Adobe Acrobat Pro 9. Several months > ago, after upgrading to all the listed hardware/software, I started having > issues with printing to PS and distilling the PS files to PDF using very > staid, well-established files that had never given me issue before. I was > receiving that contradictory message about "Rely on system fonts only; do >
Printing to PS and distilling to PDF question
Rick, You mention that the problem is with old files. Have you MIF-washed them in FM9? I've had similar minor problems with old files that I've opened in 9, relying on the system conversion settings. Because some of the printer settings are stored with the file, I'm wondering if MIF-washing may help. Art Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Rick Quatro wrote: > Hi Tammy, > > Yes, I am having to do this every time I make a PDF, as well. > > Rick > > Rick Quatro > Carmen Publishing Inc. > 585-659-8267 > rick at frameexpert.com > > *** Frame Automation blog at http://frameautomation.com > > > > -Original Message- > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Spectrum Writing > Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 9:07 AM > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com; Free Framers > Subject: Printing to PS and distilling to PDF question > > All, > > FM9 (all patched), Win7/64 bit system, Adobe Acrobat Pro 9. Several months > ago, after upgrading to all the listed hardware/software, I started having > issues with printing to PS and distilling the PS files to PDF using very > staid, well-established files that had never given me issue before. I was > receiving that contradictory message about "Rely on system fonts only; do > not use document fonts" when I hadn't changed one thing about the fonts that > I use in the documents (Arial and TNR only!) or what fonts were installed on > my system (these two fonts are indeed installed.) > > Long story short - after some guidance from several off list and on list > replies, I actually went and did this: Start > Device and Printers and on > the Adobe PDF Printer, right-clicked, selected Printer Properties, and under > Preferences, cleared the Rely on system fonts only; do not use document > fonts option. ?That seemed to do the trick and I even double-checked that > this option was still cleared before using Standard or High Quality job > options to print to PS. > > After the latest rounds of updates from Adobe, however, this preference is > NOT staying cleared for the Adobe PDF printer. I have to clear it each and > every time before I print to PS. That is absolutely the only thing that has > changed in relation to my documents or installed fonts on my system - the > documents don't use different fonts and I haven't uninstalled these two > fonts from my system. > > I was just wondering if anyone else had to mess with this setting for FM9 > /Acrobat Pro 9 and if so, had you seen this issue? (As explained to me, I am > having to mess with this setting for the first time ever in ?my ?history > using FM and printing to PS because of how FM 9/distiller 9 have changed > their font handling -something about the fonts being in the font stream now > or . . .l can't honestly say that I fully understand the surrounding issue, > and am just wondering if others have seen it as well - it just makes no > sense to me.) > > Thanks, > > TVB > > Tammy Van Boening > Owner/Principal > Spectrum Writing, LLC > www.spectrumwritingllc.com > info at spectrumwritingllc.com > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
Printing to PS and distilling to PDF question
Hi Tammy, Yes, I am having to do this every time I make a PDF, as well. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-659-8267 rick at frameexpert.com *** Frame Automation blog at http://frameautomation.com -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Spectrum Writing Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 9:07 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com; Free Framers Subject: Printing to PS and distilling to PDF question All, FM9 (all patched), Win7/64 bit system, Adobe Acrobat Pro 9. Several months ago, after upgrading to all the listed hardware/software, I started having issues with printing to PS and distilling the PS files to PDF using very staid, well-established files that had never given me issue before. I was receiving that contradictory message about "Rely on system fonts only; do not use document fonts" when I hadn't changed one thing about the fonts that I use in the documents (Arial and TNR only!) or what fonts were installed on my system (these two fonts are indeed installed.) Long story short - after some guidance from several off list and on list replies, I actually went and did this: Start > Device and Printers and on the Adobe PDF Printer, right-clicked, selected Printer Properties, and under Preferences, cleared the Rely on system fonts only; do not use document fonts option. That seemed to do the trick and I even double-checked that this option was still cleared before using Standard or High Quality job options to print to PS. After the latest rounds of updates from Adobe, however, this preference is NOT staying cleared for the Adobe PDF printer. I have to clear it each and every time before I print to PS. That is absolutely the only thing that has changed in relation to my documents or installed fonts on my system - the documents don't use different fonts and I haven't uninstalled these two fonts from my system. I was just wondering if anyone else had to mess with this setting for FM9 /Acrobat Pro 9 and if so, had you seen this issue? (As explained to me, I am having to mess with this setting for the first time ever in my history using FM and printing to PS because of how FM 9/distiller 9 have changed their font handling -something about the fonts being in the font stream now or . . .l can't honestly say that I fully understand the surrounding issue, and am just wondering if others have seen it as well - it just makes no sense to me.) Thanks, TVB Tammy Van Boening Owner/Principal Spectrum Writing, LLC www.spectrumwritingllc.com info at spectrumwritingllc.com
Printing to PS and distilling to PDF question
I wasn't thorough in my post - it's for new files too. Even files that have been created only in FM9 have this issue as well. Tammy Van Boening Owner/Principal Spectrum Writing, LLC www.spectrumwritingllc.com info at spectrumwritingllc.com -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art Campbell Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 7:24 AM To: Rick Quatro Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com; Free Framers Subject: Re: Printing to PS and distilling to PDF question Rick, You mention that the problem is with old files. Have you MIF-washed them in FM9? I've had similar minor problems with old files that I've opened in 9, relying on the system conversion settings. Because some of the printer settings are stored with the file, I'm wondering if MIF-washing may help. Art Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Rick Quatro wrote: > Hi Tammy, > > Yes, I am having to do this every time I make a PDF, as well. > > Rick > > Rick Quatro > Carmen Publishing Inc. > 585-659-8267 > rick at frameexpert.com > > *** Frame Automation blog at http://frameautomation.com > > > > -Original Message- > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Spectrum Writing > Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 9:07 AM > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com; Free Framers > Subject: Printing to PS and distilling to PDF question > > All, > > FM9 (all patched), Win7/64 bit system, Adobe Acrobat Pro 9. Several months > ago, after upgrading to all the listed hardware/software, I started having > issues with printing to PS and distilling the PS files to PDF using very > staid, well-established files that had never given me issue before. I was > receiving that contradictory message about "Rely on system fonts only; do > not use document fonts" when I hadn't changed one thing about the fonts that > I use in the documents (Arial and TNR only!) or what fonts were installed on > my system (these two fonts are indeed installed.) > > Long story short - after some guidance from several off list and on list > replies, I actually went and did this: Start > Device and Printers and on > the Adobe PDF Printer, right-clicked, selected Printer Properties, and under > Preferences, cleared the Rely on system fonts only; do not use document > fonts option. ?That seemed to do the trick and I even double-checked that > this option was still cleared before using Standard or High Quality job > options to print to PS. > > After the latest rounds of updates from Adobe, however, this preference is > NOT staying cleared for the Adobe PDF printer. I have to clear it each and > every time before I print to PS. That is absolutely the only thing that has > changed in relation to my documents or installed fonts on my system - the > documents don't use different fonts and I haven't uninstalled these two > fonts from my system. > > I was just wondering if anyone else had to mess with this setting for FM9 > /Acrobat Pro 9 and if so, had you seen this issue? (As explained to me, I am > having to mess with this setting for the first time ever in ?my ?history > using FM and printing to PS because of how FM 9/distiller 9 have changed > their font handling -something about the fonts being in the font stream now > or . . .l can't honestly say that I fully understand the surrounding issue, > and am just wondering if others have seen it as well - it just makes no > sense to me.) > > Thanks, > > TVB > > Tammy Van Boening > Owner/Principal > Spectrum Writing, LLC > www.spectrumwritingllc.com > info at spectrumwritingllc.com > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as info at spectrumwritingllc.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/info%40spectrumwritingll c.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Printing to PS and distilling to PDF question
All, FM9 (all patched), Win7/64 bit system, Adobe Acrobat Pro 9. Several months ago, after upgrading to all the listed hardware/software, I started having issues with printing to PS and distilling the PS files to PDF using very staid, well-established files that had never given me issue before. I was receiving that contradictory message about "Rely on system fonts only; do not use document fonts" when I hadn't changed one thing about the fonts that I use in the documents (Arial and TNR only!) or what fonts were installed on my system (these two fonts are indeed installed.) Long story short - after some guidance from several off list and on list replies, I actually went and did this: Start > Device and Printers and on the Adobe PDF Printer, right-clicked, selected Printer Properties, and under Preferences, cleared the Rely on system fonts only; do not use document fonts option. That seemed to do the trick and I even double-checked that this option was still cleared before using Standard or High Quality job options to print to PS. After the latest rounds of updates from Adobe, however, this preference is NOT staying cleared for the Adobe PDF printer. I have to clear it each and every time before I print to PS. That is absolutely the only thing that has changed in relation to my documents or installed fonts on my system - the documents don't use different fonts and I haven't uninstalled these two fonts from my system. I was just wondering if anyone else had to mess with this setting for FM9 /Acrobat Pro 9 and if so, had you seen this issue? (As explained to me, I am having to mess with this setting for the first time ever in my history using FM and printing to PS because of how FM 9/distiller 9 have changed their font handling -something about the fonts being in the font stream now or . . .l can't honestly say that I fully understand the surrounding issue, and am just wondering if others have seen it as well - it just makes no sense to me.) Thanks, TVB Tammy Van Boening Owner/Principal Spectrum Writing, LLC www.spectrumwritingllc.com info at spectrumwritingllc.com
RE: Printing to PS and distilling to PDF question
I wasn't thorough in my post - it's for new files too. Even files that have been created only in FM9 have this issue as well. Tammy Van Boening Owner/Principal Spectrum Writing, LLC www.spectrumwritingllc.com i...@spectrumwritingllc.com -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art Campbell Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 7:24 AM To: Rick Quatro Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com; Free Framers Subject: Re: Printing to PS and distilling to PDF question Rick, You mention that the problem is with old files. Have you MIF-washed them in FM9? I've had similar minor problems with old files that I've opened in 9, relying on the system conversion settings. Because some of the printer settings are stored with the file, I'm wondering if MIF-washing may help. Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Rick Quatro wrote: > Hi Tammy, > > Yes, I am having to do this every time I make a PDF, as well. > > Rick > > Rick Quatro > Carmen Publishing Inc. > 585-659-8267 > r...@frameexpert.com > > *** Frame Automation blog at http://frameautomation.com > > > > -Original Message- > From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Spectrum Writing > Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 9:07 AM > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com; Free Framers > Subject: Printing to PS and distilling to PDF question > > All, > > FM9 (all patched), Win7/64 bit system, Adobe Acrobat Pro 9. Several months > ago, after upgrading to all the listed hardware/software, I started having > issues with printing to PS and distilling the PS files to PDF using very > staid, well-established files that had never given me issue before. I was > receiving that contradictory message about "Rely on system fonts only; do > not use document fonts" when I hadn't changed one thing about the fonts that > I use in the documents (Arial and TNR only!) or what fonts were installed on > my system (these two fonts are indeed installed.) > > Long story short - after some guidance from several off list and on list > replies, I actually went and did this: Start > Device and Printers and on > the Adobe PDF Printer, right-clicked, selected Printer Properties, and under > Preferences, cleared the Rely on system fonts only; do not use document > fonts option. That seemed to do the trick and I even double-checked that > this option was still cleared before using Standard or High Quality job > options to print to PS. > > After the latest rounds of updates from Adobe, however, this preference is > NOT staying cleared for the Adobe PDF printer. I have to clear it each and > every time before I print to PS. That is absolutely the only thing that has > changed in relation to my documents or installed fonts on my system - the > documents don't use different fonts and I haven't uninstalled these two > fonts from my system. > > I was just wondering if anyone else had to mess with this setting for FM9 > /Acrobat Pro 9 and if so, had you seen this issue? (As explained to me, I am > having to mess with this setting for the first time ever in my history > using FM and printing to PS because of how FM 9/distiller 9 have changed > their font handling -something about the fonts being in the font stream now > or . . .l can't honestly say that I fully understand the surrounding issue, > and am just wondering if others have seen it as well - it just makes no > sense to me.) > > Thanks, > > TVB > > Tammy Van Boening > Owner/Principal > Spectrum Writing, LLC > www.spectrumwritingllc.com > i...@spectrumwritingllc.com > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as i...@spectrumwritingllc.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.fra
Re: Printing to PS and distilling to PDF question
Rick, You mention that the problem is with old files. Have you MIF-washed them in FM9? I've had similar minor problems with old files that I've opened in 9, relying on the system conversion settings. Because some of the printer settings are stored with the file, I'm wondering if MIF-washing may help. Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Rick Quatro wrote: > Hi Tammy, > > Yes, I am having to do this every time I make a PDF, as well. > > Rick > > Rick Quatro > Carmen Publishing Inc. > 585-659-8267 > r...@frameexpert.com > > *** Frame Automation blog at http://frameautomation.com > > > > -Original Message- > From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Spectrum Writing > Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 9:07 AM > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com; Free Framers > Subject: Printing to PS and distilling to PDF question > > All, > > FM9 (all patched), Win7/64 bit system, Adobe Acrobat Pro 9. Several months > ago, after upgrading to all the listed hardware/software, I started having > issues with printing to PS and distilling the PS files to PDF using very > staid, well-established files that had never given me issue before. I was > receiving that contradictory message about "Rely on system fonts only; do > not use document fonts" when I hadn't changed one thing about the fonts that > I use in the documents (Arial and TNR only!) or what fonts were installed on > my system (these two fonts are indeed installed.) > > Long story short - after some guidance from several off list and on list > replies, I actually went and did this: Start > Device and Printers and on > the Adobe PDF Printer, right-clicked, selected Printer Properties, and under > Preferences, cleared the Rely on system fonts only; do not use document > fonts option. That seemed to do the trick and I even double-checked that > this option was still cleared before using Standard or High Quality job > options to print to PS. > > After the latest rounds of updates from Adobe, however, this preference is > NOT staying cleared for the Adobe PDF printer. I have to clear it each and > every time before I print to PS. That is absolutely the only thing that has > changed in relation to my documents or installed fonts on my system - the > documents don't use different fonts and I haven't uninstalled these two > fonts from my system. > > I was just wondering if anyone else had to mess with this setting for FM9 > /Acrobat Pro 9 and if so, had you seen this issue? (As explained to me, I am > having to mess with this setting for the first time ever in my history > using FM and printing to PS because of how FM 9/distiller 9 have changed > their font handling -something about the fonts being in the font stream now > or . . .l can't honestly say that I fully understand the surrounding issue, > and am just wondering if others have seen it as well - it just makes no > sense to me.) > > Thanks, > > TVB > > Tammy Van Boening > Owner/Principal > Spectrum Writing, LLC > www.spectrumwritingllc.com > i...@spectrumwritingllc.com > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Printing to PS and distilling to PDF question
Hi Tammy, Yes, I am having to do this every time I make a PDF, as well. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-659-8267 r...@frameexpert.com *** Frame Automation blog at http://frameautomation.com -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Spectrum Writing Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 9:07 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com; Free Framers Subject: Printing to PS and distilling to PDF question All, FM9 (all patched), Win7/64 bit system, Adobe Acrobat Pro 9. Several months ago, after upgrading to all the listed hardware/software, I started having issues with printing to PS and distilling the PS files to PDF using very staid, well-established files that had never given me issue before. I was receiving that contradictory message about "Rely on system fonts only; do not use document fonts" when I hadn't changed one thing about the fonts that I use in the documents (Arial and TNR only!) or what fonts were installed on my system (these two fonts are indeed installed.) Long story short - after some guidance from several off list and on list replies, I actually went and did this: Start > Device and Printers and on the Adobe PDF Printer, right-clicked, selected Printer Properties, and under Preferences, cleared the Rely on system fonts only; do not use document fonts option. That seemed to do the trick and I even double-checked that this option was still cleared before using Standard or High Quality job options to print to PS. After the latest rounds of updates from Adobe, however, this preference is NOT staying cleared for the Adobe PDF printer. I have to clear it each and every time before I print to PS. That is absolutely the only thing that has changed in relation to my documents or installed fonts on my system - the documents don't use different fonts and I haven't uninstalled these two fonts from my system. I was just wondering if anyone else had to mess with this setting for FM9 /Acrobat Pro 9 and if so, had you seen this issue? (As explained to me, I am having to mess with this setting for the first time ever in my history using FM and printing to PS because of how FM 9/distiller 9 have changed their font handling -something about the fonts being in the font stream now or . . .l can't honestly say that I fully understand the surrounding issue, and am just wondering if others have seen it as well - it just makes no sense to me.) Thanks, TVB Tammy Van Boening Owner/Principal Spectrum Writing, LLC www.spectrumwritingllc.com i...@spectrumwritingllc.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Printing to PS and distilling to PDF question
All, FM9 (all patched), Win7/64 bit system, Adobe Acrobat Pro 9. Several months ago, after upgrading to all the listed hardware/software, I started having issues with printing to PS and distilling the PS files to PDF using very staid, well-established files that had never given me issue before. I was receiving that contradictory message about "Rely on system fonts only; do not use document fonts" when I hadn't changed one thing about the fonts that I use in the documents (Arial and TNR only!) or what fonts were installed on my system (these two fonts are indeed installed.) Long story short - after some guidance from several off list and on list replies, I actually went and did this: Start > Device and Printers and on the Adobe PDF Printer, right-clicked, selected Printer Properties, and under Preferences, cleared the Rely on system fonts only; do not use document fonts option. That seemed to do the trick and I even double-checked that this option was still cleared before using Standard or High Quality job options to print to PS. After the latest rounds of updates from Adobe, however, this preference is NOT staying cleared for the Adobe PDF printer. I have to clear it each and every time before I print to PS. That is absolutely the only thing that has changed in relation to my documents or installed fonts on my system - the documents don't use different fonts and I haven't uninstalled these two fonts from my system. I was just wondering if anyone else had to mess with this setting for FM9 /Acrobat Pro 9 and if so, had you seen this issue? (As explained to me, I am having to mess with this setting for the first time ever in my history using FM and printing to PS because of how FM 9/distiller 9 have changed their font handling -something about the fonts being in the font stream now or . . .l can't honestly say that I fully understand the surrounding issue, and am just wondering if others have seen it as well - it just makes no sense to me.) Thanks, TVB Tammy Van Boening Owner/Principal Spectrum Writing, LLC www.spectrumwritingllc.com i...@spectrumwritingllc.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
